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‘Against the cult of veganism’: Unpacking the social psychology and ideology of anti-vegans

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Despite the established health and ecological benefits of a plant-based diet, the decision to eschew meat and other animal-derived food products remains controversial. So polarising is this topic that anti-vegan communities - groups of individuals who stand vehemently against veganism - have sprung up across the internet. Much scholarship on veganism characterizes anti-vegans in passing, painting them as ill-informed, uneducated, or simply obstinate. However, little empirical work has investigated these communities and the individuals within them. Accordingly, we conducted a study using social media data from the popular platform, Reddit. Specifically, we collected all available submissions (∼3523) and comments (∼45,528) from r/AntiVegan subreddit users (N = 3819) over a five-year period. Using a battery of computerized text analytic tools, we examined the psychosocial characteristics of Reddit users who publicly identify as anti-vegan, how r/AntiVegan users discuss their beliefs, and how the individual user changes as a function of community membership. Results from our analyses suggest several individual differences that align r/AntiVegan users with the community, including dark entertainment, ex-veganism and science denial. Several topics were extensively discussed by r/AntiVegan members, including nuanced discourse on the ethicality and health implications of vegan diets, and the naturalness of animal death, which ran counter to our expectations and lay stereotypes of r/AntiVegan users. Finally, several longitudinal changes in language use were observed within the community, reflecting enhanced group commitment over time, including an increase in group-focused language and a decrease in cognitive processing. Implications for vegan-nonvegan relations are discussed.
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‘Against the cult of veganism: Unpacking the social psychology and
ideology of anti-vegans
Rebecca Gregson
a
,
*
, Jared Piazza
a
, Ryan L. Boyd
a
,
b
,
c
a
Lancaster University, Department of Psychology, Lancaster, LA1 4YF, United Kingdom
b
Security Lancaster, Lancaster University, United Kingdom
c
Data Science Institute, Lancaster University, United Kingdom
ARTICLE INFO
Keywords:
Text analysis
Social media
Reddit
Group identication
Veganism
ABSTRACT
Despite the established health and ecological benets of a plant-based diet, the decision to eschew meat and
other animal-derived food products remains controversial. So polarising is this topic that anti-vegan communities
groups of individuals who stand vehemently against veganism have sprung up across the internet. Much
scholarship on veganism characterizes anti-vegans in passing, painting them as ill-informed, uneducated, or
simply obstinate. However, little empirical work has investigated these communities and the individuals within
them. Accordingly, we conducted a study using social media data from the popular platform, Reddit. Specically,
we collected all available submissions (~3523) and comments (~45,528) from r/AntiVegan subreddit users (N =
3819) over a ve-year period. Using a battery of computerized text analytic tools, we examined the psychosocial
characteristics of Reddit users who publicly identify as anti-vegan, how r/AntiVegan users discuss their beliefs,
and how the individual user changes as a function of community membership. Results from our analyses suggest
several individual differences that align r/AntiVegan users with the community, including dark entertainment, ex-
veganism and science denial. Several topics were extensively discussed by r/AntiVegan members, including
nuanced discourse on the ethicality and health implications of vegan diets, and the naturalness of animal death,
which ran counter to our expectations and lay stereotypes of r/AntiVegan users. Finally, several longitudinal
changes in language use were observed within the community, reecting enhanced group commitment over
time, including an increase in group-focused language and a decrease in cognitive processing. Implications for
vegan-nonvegan relations are discussed.
1. Introduction
Despite the established health and ecological benets of a plant-
based diet (Willett et al., 2019), the decision to eschew meat and
other animal-derived food products remains controversial. So polarising
is this topic that anti-vegan communities, groups of individuals who
stand vehemently against veganism, have sprung up across the internet.
To date, very little is known about these communities and the in-
dividuals who join them. Accordingly, in this study, we take a close look
at the r/AntiVegan community on the popular platform, Reddit, and the
social psychology of its members publicly identifying as anti-vegan. We
use anti-vegansown words to understand their beliefs and motives and
establish some implications for vegan-nonvegan relations.
1.1. Veganism
Veganism is a term coined by Donald Watson in 1944 to describe the
voluntary abstention from animal derived food-products and a lifestyle
governed by non-violent philosophy (The Vegan Society, 2021). In
recent years, veganism has become increasingly mainstream in western
societies, with the Economist declaring 2019 the year of the vegan
(Parker, 2018). This increasing popularity of vegan diets has paralleled a
rise in selective eating habits (Fischler, 2015), leading to the common
misperception that veganism is a new-age fad diet (Cole & Morgan,
2011). Far from short-lived, the concept of abstaining from
animal-derived food products for ethical reasons, is said to date back
some 5000 years to Ancient Egypt, was later popularised by Greek
philosopher Pythagoras in around 500 BCE (Zaraska, 2016) and has a
rich tradition among several world religions, including Jainism,
* Corresponding author. Department of Psychology, Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YF, United Kingdom.
E-mail address: b.gregson@lancaster.ac.uk (R. Gregson).
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Hinduism, and Buddhism (Kumar, 2021).
A recent study which sampled 28 countries from all six inhabited
continents, estimated that the average global prevalence of vegan diets
is approximately 3%, with a range of 019% (IPSOS Mori, 2018). As
such, vegans represent a minority who deviate from the social norm,
which is to consume animal products. Particularly in the West, vegans
are demographically more likely to be female, younger, highly educated
and politically left-leaning individuals (Asher et al., 2014). Their moti-
vations for following a diet free from animal products are numerous,
typically incorporating moral, health and environmental considerations
(Zur & Kl¨
ockner, 2014). Relative to other groups who eschew meat, such
as vegetarians and pescatarians, vegans hold stronger personal, proso-
cial, and moral motivations (Rosenfeld, 2019). Vegans also consider
their dietary choices as more central to their identity and tend to be
more critical of people who, unlike themselves, do not abstain from
animal products (Rosenfeld, 2019).
1.2. Anti-veganism
Recent western history offers abundant evidence that people strongly
dislike those who eschew meat (Chiles & Fitzgerald, 2017). In the 19th
century, people who refrained from meat were ridiculed and ostracized
from mainstream culture for being ‘odd, ‘eccentric and ‘half-crazed
(Iacobbo & Iacobbo, 2004). In the counterculture era, spanning the
196070s, vegetarians were readily viewed as an absurd and socially
problematic movement, synonymous with the views that the main-
stream public held for hippies (Iacobbo & Iacobbo, 2004). Such senti-
ments which we see documented throughout Western history have since
been echoed in the discourse analyses of news outlets in Australia
(Ragusa, Crampton, & Masterman-Smith, 2014) and the United
Kingdom (Cole & Morgan, 2010).
Today, with the growing popularity of meat-free diets (The Vegan
Society, 2021), anti-vegan sentiments have become increasingly
apparent (Dhont & Stoeber, 2020). This has led scholars and legal bodies
to recognise anti-veganism as a prejudice (MacInnis & Hodson, 2015),
resulting in the protection of ethical veganismunder the UK Equality
Act 2010 (Casamitjana v. League Against Cruel Sport, 2020). Some ev-
idence, reported by The Times, even suggests that vegan-related hate
crimes may be on the rise in theUK (Nachiappan, 2020). According to
the article, there were 172 instances of vegan hate crimes between the
years 20152020, one-third of which occurred in 2020 alone.
1.3. Anti-veganism and social media
Social media has transformed the way humans communicate and
interact, which has attracted the attention of psychologists (Wallace,
2015). Although social media may be lauded as an essential tool for
social interaction, some researchers suggest that it supports particularly
antisocial behaviour (Trindade, 2020), including cyberbullying (Whit-
taker & Kowalski, 2014) and the dissemination of hate speech (Casta-
˜
no-Pulgarín et al., 2021). Online communication at times lends itself to
the expression of extreme behaviour because of the anonymity it offers
the perpetrator (Branscomb, 1995), the invisibility of the victim (Lap-
idot-Leer & Barak, 2012) and the instantaneous nature of posting
(Brown, 2017), which can disinhibit an individual to convey thoughts
they might not express in person (Suler, 2004).
Social media has provided a platform for those who stand against
veganism to connect and identify with others who share in their oppo-
sition. Since early 2000, pockets of anti-vegan communities have begun
to spring up across the internet, from Reddits r/AntiVegan to Facebooks
Anti-Vegan Club and Flickrs Anti-Vegan League. It is possible that these
communities have become intertwined with alt-right ideology and
discourse (Gambert & Linn´
e, 2018; Reynolds, 2019). For example, the
slang term soy boy which is said to have originated from alt-right
online discourse on 4 chan, is used to describe men who lack tradition-
ally masculine qualities (Gambert & Linn´
e, 2018). Alt-right community
members have also been active in organising anti-vegan demonstrations
at vegan food festivals and privately owned vegan cafes, which involve
activities such as performatively consuming raw meat on the premises
(Reynolds, 2019).
1.4. Existing lines of research on anti-veganism
Given that plant-based diets offer a potential solution to the health
and ecological challenges posed by our current food system (Willett
et al., 2019), there has been a considerable amount of research con-
ducted to understand why people denigrate those who eschew meat (e.
g., see De Groeve & Rosenfeld, 2021). Research in this area has largely
focused on the form and content of anti-vegan prejudice. Characteristic
of such attitudes is the perception that people who identify as vegans
tend to be militant, hostile, overly sensitive, hypocritical, annoying,
self-righteous, opinionated, inexible, and judgmental (Cole & Morgan,
2011; De Groeve et al., 2021; Markowski & Roxburgh, 2019; Minson &
Monin, 2011). Generally, this arm of research converges on the
conclusion that moralistic impressions of vegans seem to account for the
bulk of antipathy and discrimination against them (see De Groeve et al.,
2021).
A second arm of this research has sought to understand the psy-
chosocial and demographic characteristics of those most likely to ex-
press anti-vegan sentiments. This largely survey-based body of research
has found that those more willing to denigrate vegans are typically male
(Vandermoere et al., 2019) and lower-educated individuals who hold
traditional views on gender (Earle & Hodson, 2017) and politics (Dhont
& Hodson, 2014). The degree of hedonic pleasure that people derive
from eating meat, particularly red meat, has also been shown to predict
prejudice toward vegetarians across several countries (Earle & Hodson,
2017; Ruby et al., 2016), suggesting that prejudice toward those who
abstain from animal food products may be a reactive expression aimed
at defending traditional cultural values linked to food choice.
1.5. A new line of research on anti-veganism
The research conducted to date has been invaluable in advancing
scientic understanding of anti-vegan sentiment. However, this research
has largely focused on the nature of anti-vegan sentiments expressed by
members of the general public when solicited by questions or measures
within a study or experiment. Thus, much of what we know about anti-
veganism has come from those who express anti-vegan sentiment,
reactively, when solicited under experimental conditions.
As such, the research in this area has moved toward studying anti-
vegan ideology organically, using samples of people who actively iden-
tify as anti-vegan and chose to participate in the relevant anti-vegan
behaviour. In new research by Aguilera-Carnerero and Carreter-
o-Gonz´
alez (2021), anti-vegan sentiments were studied across three
anti-vegan Spanish Facebook pages (namely; El mito del veganismo, Reich
Animalista and Vida Naturopat´
etica). The authors acquired a multimodal
dataset, containing language, image and video data for their discourse
analysis. Their ndings were conrmatory of the ndings from previous
controlled experimental and self-report research in English speaking
samples. For example, it was conrmed that in Spanish culture, typical
anti-vegan expressions share in the perception of vegans as fanatic,
radical and crazy. However, their unique approach to the study of
anti-vegan attitudes via the medium of social media allowed for novel
insights. For example, the nding that members of these communities
often draw on the lived experiences of ex-vegans as shared on YouTube
and public gures, including academics and television presenters, to
legitimize their anti-vegan sentiments. In addition, the view of veganism
as cult-like (both in a literal and metaphoric terms) and vegans as
misanthropic.
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1.6. Current study
In the current study, we sought to move away from traditional
methods of study and adopt a novel approach to understanding anti-
vegan sentiment. Accordingly, we take a big picture look at the so-
cial psychology of those publicly identifying as anti-vegan. We use the
public discourse of anti-vegans to better understand why they believe
what they believe, and to try to establish some implications for vegan-
nonvegan relations. We apply methods of computerized text analysis
to language data derived from a social media community of self-
identied anti-vegans.
Specically, we analyse social media data from Reddit, a popular,
anonymous online discussion forum comprised of sub-forums (sub-
reddits) within which users communicate through submissions and
comments. We chose Reddit because of the anonymity it offers its users
and its relative popularity in the world of social media. At the time of
writing, Reddit reports over 52 million daily active Reddit users
worldwide, ranking as one of the ten most popular and widely-used
websites on earth (Pew Research Center, 2021).
Here, we collect data from the subreddit r/AntiVegan, a community
with over 19,400 members. According to their strapline, r/AntiVegan is a
community of people ‘Against the cult of veganism. More descriptively,
the community dene themselves as:
a place to share and discuss content that opposes the ideology of
veganism. We are a community of omnivores, carnivores, ex-vegans,
vegetarians, and pescatarians. Food porn, recipes, news and nutrition
articles, stories, rants, and humor are all welcome.
Such an approach affords the opportunity to understand (a) the
prole of individuals who participate in online anti-vegan groups, and
(b) the nature of the commentary that occurs within such groups, and (c)
the long-term, motivational consequences of participating in such
groups. Thus, our three research questions are as follows:
RQ1: How do r/AntiVegan users differ from the general population on
Reddit?
RQ2: What are the most prominent topics of discussion among users
of the r/AntiVegan community?
RQ3: Does engagement with the r/AntiVegan community precipitate
social psychological change, as evidenced by changes in userslan-
guage use?
1.6.1. RQ1: How do r/AntiVegan users differ from the general population
on Reddit?
We pose our rst research question with the aim of understanding
more about the psychosocial characteristics of individuals who actively
engage in a group organised around anti-vegan discussion: the r/Anti-
Vegan community. Treating Reddit as the baseline population (the
closest approximation to a ‘general population available within this
online context), we want to know what, if any, psychosocial charac-
teristics differentiate r/AntiVegan users from the general population on
Reddit.
1.6.2. RQ2: What are the most prominent topics of discussion among users
of the r/AntiVegan community?
It is unknown whether anti-vegan impressions, uncovered in survey
studies, will be shared among individuals who actively participate in
anti-vegan behaviour. It is also unclear what sorts of ideas and modes of
thinking typify the discourse of such communities. Accordingly, we pose
our second research question with the aim of understanding what the r/
AntiVegan community discusses as a window into the beliefs and motives
characteristic of anti-vegan identiers. In doing so, we seek to under-
stand anti-vegan beliefs and opinions as they choose to discuss and enact
them.
1.6.3. RQ3: Does engagement with the r/AntiVegan community precipitate
social psychological change, as evidenced by changes in userslanguage use?
Despite anti-vegan sentiment being commonplace across the
internet, anti-veganism phenomena have yet to be studied through the
lens of group processes. Past research has shown that interaction with an
online community strengthens group-identication and, once a social
identity is formed amongst an online group, its members may be
increasingly susceptible to group inuence, stereotyping and discrimi-
nating against outgroup members (Postmes et al., 1998). Accordingly,
we pose our third question with the aim of understanding the social
psychological effects of r/AntiVegan membership by examining longi-
tudinal changes in language-based measures of group memberstraits
(e.g., Lam, 2008, pp. 28592869; see also: Boyd & Pennebaker, 2017). In
line with past work on group members aligning their linguistic styles,
goals, and norms, we explore whether r/AntiVegan users experience
something of a group acculturation process, exhibiting more
group-identication signatures over time, and whether the community
itself develops more group-like qualities, for example, more hierarchical
structures or leadership-followership distinctions.
2. Method
2.1. Sample overview
For this research, we used a custom pipeline, built around the
Pushshift database (Baumgartner et al., 2020), to collect data from the
subreddit r/AntiVegan. We collected all available posts, including both
submissions(i.e., posts that users made to the forum containing a link,
text, or other content) and comments(i.e., posts made in response to
other users posts) made in the r/AntiVegan subreddit between March
2014December 2019. The nal database included a total of 48,909
posts, comprised of 3,523 submissions and 45,386 comments produced
by 3,819 unique users. Each post represented a unique data point and
was associated with the language content of the post, the date and time
the post was made and the username of the account which made the
post. To better understand r/AntiVegan users and their wider interest, we
additionally tallied the frequency of posts that each user made across all
other publicly visible subreddits.
2.2. Text analytic approach
We adopted multiple text analysis methods for quantifying the con-
tent of posts made to the r/AntiVegan subreddit, ranging from well-
established word counting methods to topic modelling and corpus lin-
guistics. Below, we briey describe each method and outline the mea-
sures provided by each. In the Results section, we included details of the
question-specic analysis to help illuminate the results.
2.2.1. Meaning Extraction Method
To understand what motivates Reddit users to participate in r/Anti-
Vegan, we used topic modelling to objectively extract and quantify the
central topics discussed within the r/AntiVegan community. For this
task, we employed the Meaning Extraction Method (MEM; Chung &
Pennebaker, 2008), a topic modelling technique which statistically
identies, from a list of high frequency words, those that tend to
co-occur into psychologically meaningful themes. This method is well
suited to addressing social scientic research questions and has been
used to understand the content of discourse in a wide range of topics,
including relationship problems (Entwistle et al., 2021), food cognition
(Blackburn et al., 2020), dehumanization (Markowitz & Slovic, 2021),
and climate change denialism (Shah et al., 2021), to name a few.
Briey described, the MEM is conducted in a series of steps: rst,
high frequency words within a corpus of text are identied and each text
is then scored (in either binary or relative frequency fashion) for the
presence or absence of each high frequency word. This part of the pro-
cedure has, more recently, been automated by the development of the
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Meaning Extraction Helper (MEH; v2.2.03; Boyd, 2020). The nal step is
to perform a Principal Components Analysis (PCA) with the data,
conceptually a method for nding groups of correlations, here a method
for nding groups of words that tend to co-occur. For in-depth treat-
ments of common MEM procedures, we refer readers to Boyd and Pen-
nebaker (2016) and Markowitz (2021).
2.2.2. Linguistic inquiry and word count
To explore the psychological consequences of r/AntiVegan member-
ship, we quantied longitudinal changes in users linguistic markers of
psychosocial traits. We employed Linguistic Inquiry Word Count (LIWC;
Pennebaker et al., 2015), a well-validated tool in computerized text
analysis, underpinned by the extensive research demonstrating that the
high occurrence of certain words is reliably indicative of corresponding
psychological processes (Boyd & Schwartz, 2021). LIWC consists of two
parts: a dictionary and a software program. The dictionary is comprised
of word-to-category mappings for 82 categories, including common
content (e.g., related to biology, power, family) and function words (e.
g., pronouns, conjunctions, articles). The program itself calculates the
percentage of words that belong to each of the dictionary categories,
hence, scores for each variable (excluding word count) range from 0 to
100. This method of text analysis has been applied to a wide range of
psychological research including personality, patterns of thought and
social processes (Tausczik & Pennebaker, 2010).
3. Results
3.1. RQ1: How do r/AntiVegan users differ from the general population
on Reddit?
Without standard demographic information (e.g., age and gender) at
our disposal, we adopted a behavioral approach to identify those posting
characteristics that were more prevalent in r/AntiVegan users relative to
the overall population of Reddit users. We investigated the wider Reddit
activity of r/AntiVegan users, with the assumption that the kinds of
subreddits frequented by such users would be revealing of their psy-
chosocial characteristics
1
. Our approach to analysing these data was
thus twofold. First, we sought to understand how the posting activity of
r/AntiVegan users differed from that of the general population on Reddit.
Secondly, we sought to make a qualitative interpretation of the nature of
those subreddits highly frequented by r/AntiVegan users.
To address the rst aim, we compared the wider Reddit activity of r/
AntiVegan users against that of a sample of r/askreddit users (N =9500).
With over 33 million users, r/askreddit is one of the most popular sub-
reddits on Reddit. Given its popularity and the neutrality of its content,
this subreddit has often been used as something of a control groupfor
group-based comparisons (see, e.g., Bagroy et al., 2017). To determine
which subreddits were more associated with r/AntiVegan users, we used
the Basic Unit Transposable Text Experimentation Resource (BUTTER;
Boyd, 2018) an open-source software and text analytic system that
performs several text analytic and statistical functions. Specically, we
used the compare frequenciestool, which allows the user to calculate a
series of pairwise comparison statistics.
Here, we report the %DIFF values (Gabrielatos & Marchi, 2011), an
effect-size metric which indicates the proportion (%) of the difference
between the normalised frequencies of any one subreddit, across two
samples; the study sample of interest (here: r/AntiVegan) versus the
reference sample (here: r/askreddit). The formula for %DIFF is as fol-
lows, where NF refers to normalised frequency, SS study sample and RS
reference sample:
%DIFF =(NF in SS NF in RS) × 100
(NF in RS) + .0001
In our case, positive %DIFF values indicate that a particular subreddit
has a higher normalised frequency in the study sample (r/AntiVegan)
and negative values a higher normalised frequency in the reference
sample (r/askreddit). Large values indicate that the subreddit is more
highly representative of the sample, relative to the other. These values
are not associated with a signicance outcome and so to make an
inference of the statistical signicance of the observed difference, we
draw on log-likelihood (LL) and employ the following threshold: LL
15.13, p <.0001 (see, e.g., Rayson & Garside, 2000).
Our analysis revealed meaningful differences in the wider Reddit
activity of r/AntiVegan and r/askreddit users. Table 1 displays the 10
subreddits with the highest normalised frequency amongst r/AntiVegan
users, relative to r/askreddit users and vice versa.
A qualitative inspection of the way in which the subreddits, most
strongly associated with r/AntiVegan users, describe themselves
revealed several insights (see Table 2 for the community descriptions of
each of the ten subreddits with the highest normalised frequency
amongst r/AntiVegan users). First, r/AntiVegan users extend their dis-
cussions around veganism to other areas on Reddit, including r/Deba-
teAVegan and r/vegancirclejerk. This suggests that vegan opposition is a
key social motive for many r/AntiVegan users. r/AntiVegan users also
frequent r/carnivore, a subreddit dedicated to discussion around the
carnivore diet, a diet entirely reliant upon animal-derived products, and
one which excludes all other food groups, including vegetables and
carbohydrates. These users nd entertainment in shocking (r/Make-
MeSuffer) and socially taboo topics (e.g., r/AccidentalRacism). They
adopt a style of humour which is both self- (r/suicidebywords) and other
deprecating (r/darkjokes). Taboo topics represented within these fre-
quented subreddits include rape, miscarriage, suicide, and racism.
Oppressed minority groups like women and people of colour feature
heavily in both r/AccidentalRacism and r/darkjokes. Lastly, the activity
featured in r/AskDocs and r/youtube suggests that r/AntiVegan users
appreciate both rational and anecdotal argumentation, respectively.
3.2. RQ2: What are the most prominent topics of discussion among users
of the r/AntiVegan community?
To better understand the topics that r/AntiVegan users discuss within
their community, we conducted a MEM analysis on the language data
generated within the r/AntiVegan subreddit. Specically, we used the
MEH to analyse the r/AntiVegan posts with a word count 100 (N =
3253). Following standard MEM procedures, we then performed a PCA
Table 1
The Ten Subreddits with the Highest Normalised Frequency Amongst r/Anti-
Vegan and r/askreddit Users.
Subreddit r/AntiVegan
frequency
r/askreddit
frequency
%DIFF Log Liklihood
DebateAVegan 46872 1 626044.90 11734.97***
carnivore 7094 3 31488.67 1739.20***
AntiVegan 46902 61 10171.24 11089.85***
darkjokes 120146 174 9124.05 28250.19***
youtube 240237 432 7328.78 55766.29***
vegancirclejerk 23636 52 5972.00 5409.13***
AskDocs 202089 450 5899.17 46205.39***
suicidebywords 36311 104 4564.08 8124.34***
MakeMeSuffer 94436 299 4119.18 20920.12***
AccidentalRacism 32923 157 2701.31 6934.34***
Subreddit r/AntiVegan
frequency
r/askreddit
frequency
%DIFF Log Liklihood
CFB 0 38634 99.99 165217.38***
n 0 33009 99.99 141160.59***
reddevils 0 21747 99.99 92995.80***
counting 0 21065 99.99 90079.06***
hockey 0 20797 99.99 88932.89***
SquaredCircle 0 19577 99.99 83715.27***
BattleeldV 0 18627 99.99 79652.37***
GlobalOffensive 0 17285 99.99 73912.99***
DestinyTheGame 0 15938 99.99 68152.24***
Gunners 0 14762 99.99 63122.81***
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with varimax rotation on the binary word output generated using the
MEH, to extract common themes of r/AntiVegan discussion. The diag-
nostic Bartletts Sphericity Test (
χ
2
=50796.805, p <.001) and the
Kaiser-Meyer-Olkin measure (KMO =0.807) indicated that a component
type model was an acceptable t for these data. A 5-component solution
was selected as the best t for our data, considering a trade-off between
breadth and depth of coverage; each component had an eigenvalue 2
and together the 5-component explained 10.82% of variance in the data,
well within the expected range for a PCA on language data (see, e.g.,
Ikizer et al., 2019; Kilimnik et al., 2018). Thus, a 5-component solution,
with factor loadings of 2.5 was retained for further inspection.
In order to further inspect the 5 components that of our PCA, we
selected a sample of the 10 highest-scoring comments on each compo-
nent. Where interpretations were more difcult, we additionally looked
at the ten lowest-scoring comments for comparison. The MEM-derived
word clusters revealed ve distinct themes of discussion: 1) health, 2)
rationalism, 3) animal death, 4) experiential accounts, and 5) morality
(see Table 3 and Fig. 1). The verbatim quotes that we present in the
following subsections were taken from these samples and are intended
to be most representative of the component.
3.2.1. Health
The rst theme captured discussion around the negative health
consequences of a vegan diet, relative to a meat-based diet. Hence,
emergent word loadings included: protein, nutrient, health, fat, and body.
Many r/AntiVegan users see veganism as nutritionally inadequate, a
slow form of starvation and vegans themselves as being sick all the
time, having weak bones, poor memory and a low libido. Some users
saw veganism as disguising a disordered relationships with food, namely
eating disorders like orthorexia nervosa: We [r/AntiVegan users] look at
it [veganism] like an eating disorder, like anorexia. As a result of these
perceived nutritional deciencies and the subsequent need to supple-
ment, a vegan diet is also seen as unnatural. r/AntiVegan users are of the
opinion that were veganism a natural diet for humans, it would “… not
have to be monitored, adhered to or supplemented.
The discussion around the negative health consequences of a vegan
diet takes a holistic and sophisticated look at the absence of essential
nutrients, the complex interplay between certain nutrients, their meta-
bolic proles and absorption. r/AntiVegan users see a vegan diet as
decient in a lot more than just b12and introduce into their discussion
nutritional elements such as omega 3, carnitine, taurine, iron, Vitamin
A, and Coenzyme Q10. Some r/AntiVegan users explain that because of
the complex metabolic proles of certain nutrients, the body is more
heavily taxed when trying to convert plant sources: there is additional
conversion needed within the body to metabolize many nutrients from their
plant form to animal form. The body has a limited capacity to do this. In this
way, r/AntiVegans see meat-based diets as conveniently healthy; both
nutritionally superior to a vegan diet and able to provide equal or better
nutrition at a smaller density of food intake: Plants dont have the same
bioavailability as animal products do, so you would have to eat far more
whole plants than you would animal products.
The Health discussion theme was heavily populated with ex-vegans.
An analysis of the posts made by ex-vegans that fall under this theme
implicate the motivation to both share and seek advice about the nega-
tive health consequences of a vegan diet: Would love to hear advice or
Table 2
The Community Descriptions of each of the Ten Subreddits with the Highest
Normalised Frequency Amongst r/AntiVegan Users.
Subreddit Community Description
DebateAVegan A place for open discussion about veganism and vegan issues,
focusing on intellectual debate about animal rights and welfare,
health, the environment, nutrition, philosophy or any topic
related to veganism.
carnivore A subreddit about the elimination and way of eating known as
the carnivore diet.
AntiVegan /r/AntiVegan is a place to share and discuss content that
opposes the ideology of veganism. We are a community of
omnivores, carnivores, ex-vegans, vegetarians, and
pescatarians. Food porn, recipes, news and nutrition articles,
stories, rants, and humour are all welcome.
darkjokes #BLM Chapo Reddit Takeover: Guess Which Sub Is Next
youtube r/YouTube is for meta-discussion about YouTube as a platform -
its features, bugs, business decisions, etc. This is a fan sub, not
run or owned by YouTube!
vegancirclejerk Veganism is a way of living that is just awesome, plus we totally
get enough protein! Also, we totally get enough oral sex.
Probably more than you, to be honest. Not bragging, just stating
facts.- The Vegan Society
AskDocs Having a medical issue? Ask a doctor or medical professional on
Reddit! All aired medical professionals on this subreddit are
veried by the mods.
suicidebywords A sub about self-inicted insults.
MakeMeSuffer If it hurts to look at, post it.
AccidentalRacism This is where you can post all the accidental racism pictures.
Table 3
Themes Extracted by the MEM on r/AntiVegan Submissions.
Component 1 Component 2 Component 3 Component 4 Component 5
Health Rationalism Animal death Experiential accounts Morality
diet .560 study .451 animal .467 time .352 vegans .476
meat .521 science .344 farm .454 day .294 argument .419
eat .521 large .312 live .434 post .285 moral .414
food .446 level .311 kill .428 comment .280 vegan .412
fat .426 source .297 cow .406 start .275 veganism .367
egg .420 high .293 wild .389 said .272 animal .310
protein .417 research .292 human .379 give .271 debate .295
product .412 due .286 species .351 talk .266 argue .275
nutrient .391 point .284 die .349 see .264 wrong .257
plant .381 number .280 death .319 look .260
body .368 fact .273 feed .309 read .256
vegetable .363 system .270 farmer .306 thought .251
health .357 case .269 produce .295
healthy .337 true .262 chicken .293
vegetarian .332 amount .262 hunt .292
dairy .324 link .253 raise .287
amount .294 grow .273
sh .283 small .272
consume .282 suffering .261
milk .265 life .251
high .265
vegan .263
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similar experiences And happy to answer any questions. Common
health-related reasons for leaving veganism include both physical and
mental health issues, namely: a lack of energy or fatigue, racing heart,
high blood pressure, anaemia, iron deciencies, anxiety depression, and
recovery from disordered eating. Many advice-seeking ex-vegans were
looking to validate their own personal health concerns and to under-
stand how to re-introduce animal-derived food products into their diets.
Both advice-seeking and advice-giving ex-vegans used r/AntiVegan as a
social support forum and as a personal diary of the process involved in
returning to their omnivorous diet: Checking in after two months of ex-
veganism I have gained weight Oh, I also got my period.
3.2.2. Rationalism
The second theme captures discussion around logic-driven argu-
ments, underpinned by scientic research and reason. Hence, the words
study, science, research, fact and true emerged as key word loadings here.
Discussion around logic-driven arguments occurred in two unique ways.
First, the reference to scientic research can be understood as a tool used
in anti-vegan argumentation; r/AntiVegan users appealed to the au-
thority of scientic research to support their claims: You can literally
nd all Ive said on Wikipedia and you can nd there all the sources linked to
studies by experts. Second, r/AntiVegan users denigrated vegans for their
use of scientic research. For instance, some users accused vegans of
committing the fallacy of incomplete evidence Idiot vegans that
cherry-pick sources to push propaganda or drawing on research with
awed assumptions or methods — “trusting groups like the AHA who still
spout the thoroughly debunked ‘high cholesterol causes heat disease
nonsense for health recommendations is a recipe for suicide.r/AntiVegan
users also criticise prominent vegan advocates, like YouTube personality
Mic The Vegan and American physician Dr. Greger, founder of Nutrition
Facts.org, questioning their expertise and objectivity on the subject.
Though r/AntiVegan users might be criticised for engaging in
myside bias, the evaluation of evidence in a manner biased toward
ones own opinions (Baron, 1995; Stanovich et al., 2013), they none-
theless present relatively well-reasoned critiques of scientic research.
For example, those that call attention to the issues associated with the
use of non-comparative control groups, the over-generalising of ndings
from small samples, and averaging data while neglecting individual
differences and outliers. Where meta-analyses can often overcome these
types of issues, r/AntiVegan users often make the valid claim that
aggregating awed research only leads to awed conclusions: if a meta
study compiles data from awed studies, then its also just as awed. Dis-
cussions also touch on the recent crisis of reproducibility through talk of
publication bias (Who funds the studies can and does very often determine
what we end up learning) and scandals of data fabrication which suggest
that r/AntiVegan users remain on the pulse of the most recent goings on
in scientic culture.
Talk on this theme is not restricted to vegan-related content and
merges into discussion around other topics, for example, vaccine
research. While anti-vaccination views are said to occupy a small space
online, research has shown that such discussion has seen recent explo-
sive growth, which at times spills into adjacent topics (Johnson et al.,
2020). Here r/AntiVegan users critically discuss vaccination, in
particular the risk-benet approach taken in vaccination research (The
very science of vaccination requires there to be a trade-off between safety and
effectiveness) and the issues around dening risk specically (If you
cant properly dene the risk, then that calculation cannot be made). Much
of the same evaluations that are used to critique the science in support of
plant-based diets (e.g., non-comparative controls, here ‘placebos) are
applied here. Though, it is important for us to note that, elsewhere in the
discourse on vaccination, some r/AntiVegan users can be seen holding
more favourable views on vaccination and equating vegans with
anti-vaxxersabout whom they hold particularly negative views. This
critical and nuanced discourse suggests that r/AntiVegan usersmay be
well versed in scientic inquiry and critical evaluation.
3.2.3. Animal death
The discussion that underpins theme three takes a matter-of-fact
approach to animal death, and argues that regardless of an in-
dividuals dietary choice, animal suffering and death is inevitable:
Death is certain. Suffering is part of life. Hence, prominent word load-
ings include: animal, kill, death, suffering and life. Construing animal
death in such a way may be intended to rebuff the belief commonly
attributed to vegans that killing an animal is always wrong. Put another
way, the argument that death is inevitable builds upon the belief that
loss of life is ultimately unavoidable and, particularly in the case of food,
necessary. In this vein, veganism is portrayed as naïvely idealistic; you
have to understand that ‘no suffering is never going to be possible and
vegans are viewed as disconnected from the natural world: They have
no hands-on experience with how their existence ts into the food chain, or
indeed how life on earth itself works. Tied to this, many r/AntiVegan users
nd inconsistencies in the vegan message, as they claim that even non-
animal agriculture kills animals as a by-product of production: The
number of animals that die to produce vegan food is astonishing. Though
some r/AntiVegan contributors recognise that with meat there is greater
intention to kill than with plant cultivation, ultimately they feel that A
death is a death. Suffering is suffering. For these reasons, vegans can be
painted as ignorant and hypocritical.
Importantly, when talking about animal agriculture, many r/Anti-
Vegan users discriminate between killing animals for meat and factory
farming. Indeed, there is a fair amount of consensus within r/AntiVegan
that factory farming is wrong: Im not talking about factory farming here.
I dont think anyone truly disputes that factory farms are unfathomably and
heart-wrenchingly cruel, as well as environmentally catastrophic. There is
also the strong belief that, outside of factory farming, the killing prac-
tises of the animal agriculture industry are far more humane (a swift bolt
to the head) than an animal might expect to endure in the wild (torn
apart by a predatory wild animal), and that, in farming animals, humans
provide them a service: Id much rather a caged catered life over being a
roaming scrounger.
As a result of a matter-of-fact approach to animal death, many r/
AntiVegan users feel that their role as animal consumers is to shop
responsibly for high-welfare, environmentally sustainable food prod-
ucts. Many users express the fatalistic, pragmatic belief that, ultimately,
animals are going to die and so the best they can do for animals is to
support an agricultural system that minimises harm and waste: I believe
Fig. 1. Word Clouds of the Five MEM-Derived r/AntiVegan Components.
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it is every omnivores duty to make sure that animal life is not taken in an
inhumane manner and that none of the products from a slaughtered animal
are wasted. For many r/AntiVegan users, high-welfare farming is
family-owned, small-scale, organic farms with pasture-raised livestock.
This preference for purchasing better meat, leads many r/AntiVegan users
to abhor so-called militant vegans, those who hold a rigid view that all
meat is murderand do not respect peoples choice to make better rather
than restrictive decisions around food.
3.2.4. Experiential
The words that load onto factor four are indicative of storytelling
semantics: time, day, start, thought, and said. Indeed, this theme relates to
the anecdotal evidence that r/AntiVegan users draw on when discussing
their motivations for identifying as anti-vegan, or for turning to this
community for support. It is striking that this theme is contrasted with
the second theme, a logic-driven argumentation style. Unlike the logic-
driven theme where r/AntiVegan users can be seen as drawing on sci-
entic research to evidence their points, these users draw more on their
own personal experience with veganism. For example, sharing personal
narratives (I lived and grew up on …“), relational experiences, conver-
sations they have had, videos they have seen and r/AntiVegan discourse
itself. As a result, much of the content seems to be born out of intuition
(e.g., I think, I know, I wonder) and reads like hearsay (e.g., I hear that
people, some people say). The general tone of this content in relation
to that under theme two is less analytic and less cognitively rigid (e.g.,
should, maybe, might, suppose).
In an experiential fashion, r/AntiVegan users share their stories of the
negative personal experiences with vegan individuals; ranging from
personal relationships that have been destroyed as a result of veganism
and interactions with the general public. The highest scoring submission
on this factor, a 2291-word story which explores how the users rela-
tionship was destroyed when their ex-anc´
e made the decision to
become vegan overnight. Not alone, another user explains: Over a year
ago, my husband watched some documentary on Netix and decided to go
Vegan. We had a blow up ght about it. In another post, the user, a pet-
shop assistant, narrates a conict with a vegan member of the public
who was insisted on feeding their newly adopted cat a vegan diet. That
r/AntiVegan users revel sharing stories of this nature, suggests that some
of their anti-vegan identity might be underpinned by personal ofine
experiences.
3.2.5. Morality
The last theme reected discussion of the moral arguments that
underpin veganism. Hence, emergent word loadings included: argument,
moral, animal, debate and wrong. Needless to say, r/AntiVegan users are
opposed to the moral arguments that vegans present. Instead, they
believe that it is morally permissible to humanely slaughter a non-person
animal for its products. For this reason, they see the moral message as
being ineffective for encouraging people to go vegan: moral arguments
for veganism will never compel me to go vegan. We have summarised the
arguments within this theme into three strands.
First, many r/AntiVegans view vegans as making indefensible, abso-
lutist moral claims. One user explains: Im not anti-vegan per se, but Im
highly intolerant to people who think they have the ultimate wisdom because
of their belief and dictates their way of life (vehemently) on others. By
contrast, many r/AntiVegans see morality as a relative construct which
differs from person to person believing that not everyone shares the
same moral convictions, nor should they feel compelled to act contrary
to their own convictions: everyone has different moral values there arent
a set of dened rules we must ad-hear to. The issue of militant vegans re-
occurs in this theme, with radicalvegans criticised for their inexible
moral absolutism: Those animals do need to live in better conditions but for
their [vegans] radical minds, they just cant compromise.
Second, r/AntiVegan users strongly dislike the ways in which vegan
advocates use the moral message in their campaigns, specically when
drawing comparisons between non-human animals and humans who
represent social minorities. Oftentimes, in their advocacy, vegans can
draw on human examples of rape, slavery and murder to explain animal
agriculture practises like articial insemination, connement and
slaughter. These comparisons are particularly vexing. One user explains:
I adopt an anti-vegan stance purely to reject the stream of accusations of
murder, rape, holocaust etc. The r/AntiVegan community believe that
these so-called emotional shock tactics are designed to catch non-
vegans acting morally inconsistent (gotcha type questions) and are
thus met with particular reproach. Words like ‘murder and ‘rape are
seen as extreme and this adds to the perception of vegans as being
militant and overly zealous: Many vegans, like yourself, are overly
aggressive when making your point You attack people verbally and use
extreme words like ‘murderand imply someone is ‘evil.
Furthermore, many r/AntiVegan users expressed offense at these
comparisons because they see certain animals as distinctly different
from humans due to their lower sapience and inability to conceptualize
abstract concepts like freedom and morality. This explains the nal
strand of argumentation that r/AntiVegans present for opposing the
vegan moral message: they proudly hold speciesist views. Thus, by
comparing the lives of farmed animals to that of humans, vegans are
seen as belittling the plight of many people in society. The vegan
movement is seen as a cult that discriminates a variety of people.
Vegans themselves are seen putting animals above peopleand as such
are viewed as misanthropists who: are so far up their misanthropy and,
hilariously, projecting Humanity onto animals that they dont realize how
absurd comparing slavery to animal domestication is.Even more extreme
views include seeing vegans as attempting to eradicate human life: On
a psychological level they think humans are generally bad thus the conse-
quence is the eradication of humans is the logical next step.
3.3. RQ3: Does engagement with the r/AntiVegan community precipitate
social psychological change, as evidenced by changes in users language
use?
To investigate longitudinal changes in the language of r/AntiVegan
users, we computed a variable reecting a unique post made by each
user in a new calendar week. The variable, which we refer to as ‘week,
worked by scoring each users rst post as week one. Every subsequent
post that fell in a new calendar week was assigned an ascending value,
by increments of one. All posts made within the same calendar week
were assigned the same value. This produced a string variable with a
sequence from 1 to 52. By computing a time variable in this way, we
were able to aggregate all posts at the week and user level, holding each
users rst post and the year in which it was made, constant.
With these data, we rst sought to identify the rate of attrition within
the r/AntiVegan community and the point at which we lose the majority
of our sample. As is typical in online communities (e.g., Wong et al.,
2015), most users in r/AntiVegan remained active for a relatively short
amount of time (see Table 4). The majority of the sample (62.2%) made
one post in r/AntiVegan, while only a minority (7.15%) remained for a
prolonged period of time, posting for 10 weeks or more. Just two highly
active users consistently posted in r/AntiVegan each week for the
Table 4
r/AntiVegan Users Sample Attrition between Weeks 110.
Week Users (N) %
1 3819 100
2 1443 38
3 941 25
4 700 18
5 558 15
6 463 12
7 405 11
8 357 9
9 307 8
10 273 7
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duration of 52 weeks. To map longitudinal changes, an attrition
threshold of 80% was employed, which limited the investigation to the
rst four weeks of activity, a point at which 18.3% (N =700) of the
original sample remained.
All posts with a word count 50 occurring between weeks 14 were
quantied for analysis using LIWC 2015. We conducted an initial
exploratory analysis to determine potentially meaningful longitudinal
changes in LIWC outcomes. This involved visually inspecting a sample of
18 relevant LIWC outcomes as a guide for later signicance testing. The
18 variables that were selected were those deemed to be relevant to the
topic of anti-veganism (e.g., Health, Body) or group-processes (e.g.,
Afliation, Power). All of the 18 variables that were visually
inspected can be viewed via our analysis script (https://osf.io/5xs4a/).
The six variables I, Cogproc, Authentic, Clout, We, and
Anx (described in turn, below) - were those which evidenced prom-
ising ndings upon visual inspection (See Supplementary Materials B)
and were thus selected for further signicance testing.
The LIWC variable named I refers to self-focused language, spe-
cically the use of rst-person singular pronouns such as ‘Iand me.
The LIWC variable named Cogproc measures language pertaining to
cognitive processing, including insight (e.g., think, know), causation (e.
g., because, effect), discrepancy (e.g., should, would), tentativeness (e.g.,
maybe, perhaps), certainty (e.g., always, never) and differentiation (e.g.,
hasnt, but, else). The LIWC variable named Authenticrefers to the use
of authentic language, that which represents honest, unltered, and
spontaneous speech (Jordan et al., 2018). Dimensions that positively
load onto the authenticity index include self-focused language, insight,
words, differentiation words (e.g., but, though, versus) and relative
terms (e.g., above, stop, sudden); dimensions that negatively load include
discrepancies from reality (e.g., hope, must, ought) and third-person
singular pronouns (e.g., she, her, himself). The LIWC variable named
Cloutcan be considered a marker of condence in language (Drouin
et al., 2017; Jordan et al., 2019). Dimensions that positively load onto
Clout include group-focused language (i.e., ‘wewords) negations (e.g.,
no, not, never) and swear words while dimensions that negatively load
onto Clout include self-focused language (i.e., lower use of ‘I). The LIWC
variable We reects the use of group-focused language, specically
the collective pronoun ‘we. Lastly, the LIWC variable named Anx re-
fers to the use of anxious language, including words like worriedand
fearful.
To determine meaningful differences in each of these six LIWC out-
comes, between weeks one and four; we conducted a series of paired-
samples t-tests using Welchs Test to control for unequal sample sizes.
Five of these six variables returned signicant ndings, with varying,
relatively small effect sizes (Anx was not signicant; see Table 5 for
details).
4. Discussion
The present study applied computerized text analytic methods to
language data produced by self-identied anti-vegans on the subreddit
r/AntiVegan. These methods returned novel insights into the psychoso-
cial characteristics and motivations of individuals actively opposed to
veganism as a social movement and, how such a community evolves
over time. The study represents a novel, large-scale, naturalistic view of
anti-vegan attitudes and argumentation, from the rst-hand perspective
of anti-vegans, within an English-speaking sample. Below we discuss key
ndings relating to our three guiding research questions.
4.1. Who are r/AntiVegans?
Relative to the general Reddit userbase, r/AntiVegan users occupy
spaces in Reddit pertaining to dark humour, that which nds comedic
value in human suffering and topics which are typically considered
taboo (Bloom, 2010). Previous research has shown that the appreciation
of dark humour is more popular amongst males, those high in rebel-
liousness and younger people (Aillaud & Piolat, 2012; Oppliger & Zill-
mann, 1997), which is particularly revealing. Importantly, and in
accordance with the desensitization hypothesis, previous research has
linked violent media (Carnagey et al., 2007) and internet memes that
draw on dark humour (Sanchez, 2020) with psychological desensitiza-
tion to violence. r/AntiVegan users interest in dark humour appears
consistent with an unsentimental attitude towards animal slaughter and
death.
Here, dark humour is a tool used to denigrate both the self (r/
MakeMeSuffer) and others (r/AccidentalRacism). We see the use of other-
deprecating or disparagement humour as particularly revealing of psy-
chosocial characteristics of r/AntiVegan users. Disparagement humour is
any attempt to amuse through the denigration of an individual or social
group (Janes & Olson, 2000). Disparagement humour can be an op-
portunity for people who harbour prejudicial attitudes to express them
(Ford & Ferguson, 2004). Many of the subreddits that r/AntiVegan users
frequent, particularly r/darkjokes and r/AccidentalRacism, include the
expression of prejudicial attitudes towards groups including (but not
limited to) women and people of colour. Previous research has found
that generalized ethnic prejudice, speciesist attitudes towards animals,
and antipathy towards vegetarians share ideological roots, specically,
social dominance orientation (SDO; Dhont & Hodson, 2014; Dhont et al.,
2016). Our analysis would thus suggest that r/AntiVegan users would
score high on measures of SDO relative to the general population of
Reddit users.
A prominent demographic amongst r/AntiVegan users was a group of
ex-vegans seeking health advice and social support from the community,
despite ex-vegans having their own home on Reddit (r/exvegans). The
nding that former vegans are motivated by health concerns and a
Table 5
Linguistic Inquiry Word Count t-test Analysis.
Mean (SD)
LIWC Category Variable Week 1 Week 4 Mean Difference (Week 1 - Week 4) 95% Condence Interval t p d
I 4.06 (3.57) 3.31 (3.13) 0.75 0.41, 1.08 4.37 0.000 0.21
Cogproc 15.10 (4.73) 14.42 (4.69) 0.68 0.18, 1.16 2.69 0.007 0.14
Authentic 39.53 (29.9) 35.77 (27.4) 3.76 0.86, 6.65 2.54 0.011 0.13
Clout 51.25 (25.7) 54.39 (24.2) +3.14 5.68, 0.59 2.42 0.016 0.12
We 0.57 (1.18) 0.72 (1.36) +0.15 0.28, 0.01 2.09 0.037 0.12
Notes: p values were not corrected for multiplicity.
LIWC Category Variables: Irefers to self-focused language, Cogproccognitive processing, Authenticauthentic language, Cloutcondent language, and We
group-focused language.
Degrees of freedom were as follows: I (778.26), Cogproc (703.3), Authentic (748.79), Clout (730.57), We (637.17).
d refers to Cohens d.
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desire for greater social connectedness is consistent with past research
(Asher et al., 2014; Barr & Chapman, 2002; Hodson & Earle, 2018). That
these motivations would push former vegans to stand with those advo-
cating against veganism was documented here and in the work by
Aguilera-Carnerero and Carretero-Gonz´
alez (2021). While these results
highlight why many ex-vegans join anti-vegan communities, the extent
to which ex-vegans endorse anti-vegan sentiments remains unclear.
Drawing insights from the wider literature on religion, we know that
when an individual leaves a group, they may often continue to exhibit
many of the behaviours and cognitions typical of their former group an
effect known as religious residue (Van Tongeren et al., 2021). From this
perspective, one might predict that ex-vegans will endorse anti-vegan
sentiments to a much lesser extent than those who have never been
vegan. Though, these assumptions would require further investigation.
Despite using scientic evidence to support their own arguments, r/
AntiVegan users denigrate vegans for their supposed misuse of scientic
evidence and question the research underpinning vegan advocacy. This
may be evidence of a motivated cynicism toward, or denial of, the sci-
ence in support of veganism. Indeed, the dismissal of well-established
scientic evidence for non-scientic motives (Prot & Anderson, 2019)
is particularly common when such evidence threatens cherished values
(Cofnas et al., 2017) like the consumption of meat (e.g., Dhont et al.,
2021). Since meat consumers at times experience dissonance with
regards to their meat consumption (Rothgerber, 2020), this raises the
provocative question of whether their distrust is partly fuelled by efforts
to redress meat-oriented dissonance.
4.2. r/AntiVegan beliefs and opinions
Contrary to the common assumption that anti-vegan views are ill-
informed and mean-spirited, our analysis suggests that anti-vegans are
an interestingly heterogenous group with a varied set of beliefs and
opinions. This includes the view that veganism is nutritionally inade-
quate. Discussion around the negative health consequences of a vegan
diet was highly nuanced, extending beyond the mere absence of food-
derived nutrients, to talk around bioavailability, metabolic proles,
and nutrient absorption. This aspect of r/AntiVegan belief system might
be considered an extension of one of the 4Nsof meat-eating justi-
cation (Piazza et al., 2015) the argument that eating meat is necessary
for human health. This argument was also highly entangled with a
second of the 4Ns, the argument that eating meat is natural, as well as
arguments around the nutritional convenience of a meat-based diet.
Further, we noted some discussion of veganism as having links with
disordered eating, which was both an argument against veganism, put
forward by r/AntiVegan users, and part of the lived experience of
ex-vegans active in the subreddit. Although this theme was rare, links
between veganism and disordered eating has been reported elsewhere
by researchers (e.g., Parra-Fernandez et al., 2020). A potential reason
why personal health is such a cardinal line of anti-vegan argumentation
is because arguably, nutritional inadequacy is one of the strongest
counterarguments against veganism. If meat is truly necessary for human
health, then it is unavoidable and a vegan diet unsustainable.
Animal death as an unavoidable reality was also central to anti-vegan
opinion, as was the notion that veganism is an idealistic view of the
natural world. Here, r/AntiVegan users argued that, in so far as humans
do so responsibly, killing animals for consumption is natural and a
service to the animal, whose death would be more brutal in the wild.
This line of argumentation has strong parallels with the less but better
concept, a strategy employed by NGOs (e.g., RSPCA Assured) to promote
more sustainable consumption practises, and one which seems to garner
a good deal of public support (Pohjolainen et al., 2016). Here, r/Anti-
Vegan users can be seen using the less but better concept (albeit, with a
greater focus on better) as a meat-eating justication, to defend their
current practises and offer a counter-solution to veganism. r/AntiVegan
users dene better meat in terms of opposing factory farming and pur-
chasing meat produced on small, family-owned, organic farms from
livestock free from connement and instead raised on pasture. Given the
pervasiveness of factory farmed meat in most countries (Sentience
Institute, 2019), this line of argumentation could reect either an
insensitivity to animal suffering, or an attempt to resolve the cognitive
dissonance that arises when one acknowledges their role in said
suffering (Rothgerber, 2020). Indeed, there is evidence to suggest that
meat consumers engage in wishful thinking by overestimating the
availability of humanelyproduced meat (Cornish et al., 2016; Roth-
gerber, 2020). Regardless, what is clear is that vegans and many
anti-vegans share the central belief that humans have a responsibility to
care for animals, common ground that might be harnessed to facilitate
inter-group relations.
The unpleasant, moralistic tone of vegans was a frequent topic of r/
AntiVegan discussion. This nding is somewhat unsurprising given that
the vast majority of anti-vegan research has converged on the conclusion
that discrimination of vegans is often motivated by impressions of their
holier than thou posture (De Groeve et al., 2021; Minson & Monin,
2011; Weiper & Vonk, 2021). Here, the vegan moral argument is
rejected for three reasons: rst, r/AntiVegans tend to be moral relativists
and thus abhor so-called militant vegans who demand that others
endorse their own convictions about animals. Second, r/AntiVegan users
strongly dislike how vegan advocates use moral messages in their
campaigns, specically when drawing comparisons between non-human
animals and minority human groups. Finally, they reject the vegan
critique of speciesism. Some anti-vegans proudly held speciesist views,
which might be additional evidence for proling r/AntiVegan users as
high in social dominance orientation, given the strong empirical overlap
between speciesism endorsement and SDO (Dhont & Hodson, 2014).
4.3. Enhanced group commitments
Our nal research aim was to explore the social psychological effects
of r/AntiVegan membership using longitudinal changes in LIWC vari-
ables. Amongst a subset of committed users, we observed a small
decrease in the use of rst-person pronoun (i.e., I), cognitive processing
(i.e., Cogproc), and authentic language (i.e., Authentic) over time.
In addition, there was a small increase in group-focused language use (i.
e., We) and condent language (i.e., Clout). Taken together, we see
these ndings as indicative of a strengthening of group processes and
increased group socialisation. As an individual user becomes integrated
with the group they rely less on the rst-person ‘Iand increasingly the
collective ‘we (Lee et al., 2020). Not only do these users reference
themselves less, but over time the authenticity in their speech is reduced
suggesting a move away from valuing what is individual and original
and a move towards group conformity. Users persistent activity on
r/AntiVegan increased their condence and certainty (i.e., Clout). Such
linguistic displays are characteristic of people with higher social status
or who yield greater inuence over a group (Cassell & Tversky, 2006;
Dino et al., 2009), possibly suggesting that, as time goes on, a hierarchy
of group leadership emerges amongst a subset of highly committed
r/AntiVegan users.
This pattern of increased clout is inversely related to cognitive pro-
cessing (i.e., Cogproc). Here we saw cognitive processing decreasing
somewhat over time, suggesting that persistent activity on r/AntiVegan
resulted in a reduction of logic-driven, critical thinking around the topic
of veganism. Though, this is not to argue that anti-vegan argumentation
descends into illogical thought, instead, it is more likely that talk moves
away from defending the anti-vegan position as userscertainty of their
beliefs in enhanced. Taken together, we see this inverse relationship
between clout and cognitive processing as suggestive that, over time, the
group processes under r/AntiVegan are rened and a hierarchy is
established amongst a subset of committed users who are increasingly
comfortable with their role within the group and more epistemically
certain of their anti-vegan position.
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4.4. Implications
This research offers rich insights into anti-vegan thinking, motives
and behaviour, which has important implications for vegan-nonvegan
relations. While we have predominantly highlighted the ways in
which anti-vegan and vegan ideology diverge, it would seem that the
two are connected in their shared belief that humans have a re-
sponsibility to minimize the harmful impacts that their choices have on
animals and the environment. How the two groups seek to achieve this
goal is where they diverge. While anti-vegans believe it their role to shop
responsibly (i.e., for high-welfare, environmentally sustainable prod-
ucts), vegans believe they should not shop for animal-derived products
at all. All things considered, there may be more common ground to
harness between vegans and anti-vegans than one might otherwise as-
sume outside of the present investigation.
Further, many r/AntiVegan users conne their antipathy towards
vegans to militantsor the overly zealous (I dont hate/dislike vegans;
But militant veganism makes me want to dig my heels in). In fact, some
avow respectfor the admirablework that vegans do and even enjoy
eating vegan or meatless food themselves (I love a good vegan meal and
Im really open to eating less meat). We see this specialised hatred toward
so-called militant vegans as meaningful in explaining much of the hatred
directed towards vegans. Importantly, one of the extreme consequences
of militant veganism that we observed from these data is the perception
of vegans as misanthropists and veganism as a cult (recall the r/Anti-
Vegan strapline against the cult of veganism). We conducted further
exploratory qualitative analyses of the anti-vegan perception of
veganism as a cult, which can be viewed in Supplementary Materials C.
We recommend that future research examines the underpinnings and
accuracy of these judgments, particularly claims about vegans as
misanthropes.
Our analysis suggests that r/AntiVegans dene militant vegans as
those who are inexible and particularly aggressive in their moral
thinking. The literature of psychological reactance might help to explain
these ndings. Spelt et al. (2019) have found that highly controlling
language in meat reduction appeals is associated with increased psy-
chological reactance, as measured by scales of anger and perceived
threat to freedom, relative to low controlling language. Thus, vegan
advocacy that is extreme and unforgiving may be damaging to the
progression of the movement insofar as reactance may a barrier to
message receptivity.
4.5. Limitations and future directions
Despite the many strengths of this research, it is not without its
limitations. One such limitation of this work is the inability to differ-
entiate users in our sample who were members of r/AntiVegan from
those who were active in the space, though not members. Thus, the
percentage of users in our sample who do not identify as anti-vegan is
unknown. Despite this, we have a number of reasons to believe that
these numbers are extremely small and add minimal (if any) noise
within our data. First, r/AntiVegan list in their community rules that no
vegan may troll, preach, or spread misinformation or propaganda. To po-
lice this rule, r/AntiVegan employ both human moderators as well as a
"bot" to lter out vegan trolls/brigaders and remove pro-vegan sub-
missionsfrom this space. Hence, we imagine that the number of vegans
present in r/AntiVegan is small. We also have strong reason to believe
that our ndings are reective of the social psychology of anti-vegans,
given that we employed steps to sample data from highly committed
contributors, for example, employing conservative word count thresh-
olds and for RQ3 specically, analysing a subset of highly committed
users. Qualitatively, our ndings also align with this notion. For
example, our user base was active in other spaces on Reddit relating to
anti-vegan ideology (e.g., r/DebateAVegan and r/carnivore), suggesting
anti-vegan ideology to be central to these usersidentity and behaviour
on Reddit. Furthermore, several anti-vegan arguments that are recog-
nised here (e.g., the argument that veganism is inadequate for human
health) also align with previous sentiments communicated by
committed meat consumers (e.g., the belief that meat is necessary to be
healthy; Piazza et al., 2015).
Another limitation is the demographic skew of Reddit users, which
tends to trend in the direction of young, English-speaking males. It is
estimated that approximately 90% of Reddit users are under the age of
35 (Bogers & Wernersen, 2014), 63% identify as males (Pew Research
Center, 2021) and just under half from the US (Statista, 2021). In this
regard, our research is highly skewed toward Western Education
Industrialized Rich and Democratic (WEIRD) populations. Future
research ought to investigate anti-vegan sentiments with other de-
mographic proles, for example countries where the prevalence of
vegetarian and vegan diets is much higher (e.g., India, Israel).
In our analysis, we overlooked a number of dimensions of r/Anti-
Vegan communication, for example, their use of multimedia, upvotes,
permalinks and hashtags. Our dataset affords the opportunity for future
work to study the sharing of multi-media content. Of particular rele-
vance would be to study the communities use of internet memes.
Internet memes, humorous images and videos, can be thought of as a
fast-paced and somewhat competitive style of humour, with memes that
arouse the most attention (measured in likes, comments or in this case
upvotes) typically out-living those that are less impactful. Aguiler-
a-Carnerero and Carretero-Gonz´
alez (2021) found that anti-vegan
memes can range from non-offensive light humour to hate-laden at-
tacks on vegan character and the movement as a whole. Meme-sharing
thus may provide yet another window into anti-vegan thought.
We restricted our investigation to r/AntiVegan, yet there is reason to
believe that anti-vegan attitudes bleed out from this space into other
relevant subreddits: r/VegoonCircleJerk, r/ShitVegansSay, r/CringeyVe-
gans and r/DumbVeganLogic, to name a few. Outside of Reddit, there are
several English-speaking anti-vegan communities on Facebook, which
has more active daily users than Reddit (Pew Research Center, 2021).
Our research overlooks these spaces and in doing may present a limited
view of online anti-vegan attitudes. Future research should widen the
scope by analysing anti-vegan discourse across multiple platforms.
It might be a fruitful endeavour for future research to seek to un-
derstand what motivated Reddit users to join the r/AntiVegan commu-
nity. The authors made an attempt to address this question (detailed in
Supplementary Materials D), however, results from this analysis were no
more revealing of the motivations for joining r/AntiVegan, than were
those from the MEM reported in-text. We report both for the sake of
completeness. Future work could investigate this by mapping an indi-
vidual users Reddit journey prior to joining r/AntiVegan, for example,
the subreddits they frequent and any changes in their language style in
the months leading up to joining the community. Previous research
(Phadke et al., 2020) has outlined such an approach and has found
meaningful patterns in what motivates people to join conspiracy com-
munities, speccially. In future research, these methods could be
applied to the study of the formation of anti-vegan attitudes.
Lastly, these methods could be extended to study the inter-group
relations between vegans and anti-vegans. These such interactions are
observable in spaces like r/DebateAVegan, where lines of communication
between vegans and those opposed to veganism is less restricted than in
a space like r/AntiVegan, where vegans are censored. Recent research by
Kumar et al. (2018) has mapped out intercommunity interactions on
Reddit, specically examining cases where one community becomes
mobilized by negative sentiment to comment in another community. In
future research, their methods could be applied to study the intergroup
processes between r/AntiVegans and the vegan (e.g., r/vegan) commu-
nity on Reddit.
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5. Conclusion
In a fast-growing body of literature, academics are seeking to un-
derstand anti-vegan attitudes and what motivates them. The present
study investigated anti-vegan attitudes rst-hand, from the perspective
of a community of individuals who publicly identify as being anti-vegan.
Here, we observed that r/AntiVegan users are unique from the popula-
tion on Reddit in the extent to which they embrace taboo topics and dark
humour, they engage in critical and nuanced discussions of the moral
and health claims of vegans, and show signs of increased certainty and
group commitment over time. The views of r/AntiVegans represent a stiff
challenge to vegan advocacy, but also, we expect, a useful battleeld of
operation for helping vegan advocates creatively rene their arguments
and strategies.
Author contributions
The rst author conducted the analysis and wrote the manuscript.
The second author contributed to writing and editing of the manuscript.
The third author collected the data, informed the analytic method used
and contributed to the writing and editing of the manuscript. All authors
read and approved the nal version of the manuscript.
Funding
Ms. Gregsons contributions were made as part of a PhD at Lancaster
University, funded by the Economic and Social Research Council.
Ethical statement
Ethical approval for this research was obtained from the Faculty of
Science and Technology Research Ethics Committee at Lancaster Uni-
versity (FST20094) on April 16, 2021.
Declaration of competing interest
None.
Open research statement
This research was not pre-registered. The raw dataset analysed for
this work is not publicly available to protect the privacy of the Reddit
users whose data were used in this study. The public Reddit data can be
made available upon request, subject to an appropriate data use agree-
ment, if applicable. To request these data, please contact b.gregs
on@lancaster.ac.uk. Analysis and output is available and can be ob-
tained from: https://osf.io/5xs4a/
Ethical statement
This research followed all ethical guidelines for human research
participants. Ethical approval for this research was obtained from the
Faculty of Science and Technology Research Ethics Committee at Lan-
caster University (FST20094) on April 16, 2021.
Declaration of competing interest
None.
Acknowledgments
The authors would like to acknowledge Bogna Liziniewicz, Owen
Palmer and Jonjo Murphy for their helpful insights and contributions to
the development of the research reported in this manuscript.
Appendix A. Supplementary data
Supplementary data to this article can be found online at https://doi.
org/10.1016/j.appet.2022.106143.
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