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Polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis is a method for separation and analysis of macromolecules (DNA, RNA and proteins) and their fragments, based on their size and charge, using polyacrylamide as a gel medium.
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I am running a DNA PAGE after PCR (samples 6-15 are run in duplicate with the second sample digested) to determine serotonin genotypes. The ladder (well 1) is on the far right of the attached image). I would greatly appreciate any advice on how to enhance band brightness and definition, thanks.
Additional information: 5 uL ladder added, 10 uL PCR product per well, PH of the buffer is correct. Temperature of the room ~75F with Gel container NOT on ice.
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Paul Rutland Thank you!
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Good evening, I was wondering what is the size of Acrylamide/Bis-Acrylamide in a PAGE 4%/8%. I'm asking because after the run I found that some of the sample stayed in the well
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I suggest you the use of a gradient of poliacrylamide concentration!
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Can we add midori green directly while preparing polyacrylamide gels? or should only be done as a post staining after running the PAGE gel?
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... for midori Advance for midori direct add it to the sample
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I’m currently working on the synthesis of aptamers through SELEX and the technique I’m using for converting dsDNA to ssDNA is asymmetric PCR, however when performing PAGE Denaturing electrophoresis, I cannot see any product bands, just the primer, why is that? for the asymmetric PCR I use only FAM reverse primer 1uM.
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If you're performing asymmetric PCR with only one primer (in your case, the FAM-labeled reverse primer), and you're not seeing any product bands on a denaturing polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis (PAGE), there could be several potential reasons for this:
  1. Primer concentration: Ensure that the concentration of your FAM-labeled reverse primer is appropriate. While you mentioned using 1uM concentration, it's worth double-checking if this concentration is sufficient for efficient amplification.
  2. Template concentration: Since asymmetric PCR relies on excess primer over template, make sure your template concentration is not too high. Too much template can result in non-specific amplification or primer-dimers that might not be visible on the gel.
  3. PCR conditions: Check the PCR conditions (annealing temperature, extension time, etc.) to ensure they are optimized for your specific primer/template system. Suboptimal conditions can result in poor amplification.
  4. Primer design: Verify that your primer design is appropriate for your target sequence. Ensure that the primer is complementary to the template and that there are no secondary structures or sequence motifs that could interfere with primer annealing.
  5. DNA integrity: Ensure that your template DNA is of good quality and has not degraded. Degraded DNA may not amplify efficiently or may produce non-specific products.
  6. Gel concentration: Ensure that the percentage of acrylamide in your denaturing gel is appropriate for the size range of your expected products. If the gel concentration is too high, smaller fragments may migrate out of the gel before they are visible.
  7. Staining and visualization: Double-check your staining and visualization methods. Make sure your gel is stained with a dye compatible with FAM-labeled DNA and that your imaging system is capable of detecting fluorescence signals at the wavelength emitted by FAM.
By carefully reviewing these factors and optimizing your experimental conditions, you should be able to troubleshoot the issue and visualize your PCR products on the denaturing gel.
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I'm attempting to separate two DNA oligos of length 120bp and 100bp. I've been running them with 2x formamide loading buffer for 3 hours at 65V. I understand constant power is important for the temperature of the running buffer to help denaturation. My lab only has a constant Volts or Amperes power supply, so this is what I've been using. I've been considering purchasing a more advanced power supply that has constant power. How important is this for overall denaturing PAGE settings? Is there anything wrong with my current settings? My current method semi-works and I'm considering continued troubleshooting or exploring constant power.
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maintaining constant power is generally preferred over constant voltage. Constant power ensures a more consistent rate of heating throughout the gel, promoting uniform denaturation of nucleic acid samples. This is particularly important when dealing with DNA fragments that require denaturation.
In constant voltage electrophoresis, as the resistance of the gel changes with time due to temperature variations, the power fluctuates. This can result in uneven denaturation and separation of DNA fragments, especially when dealing with samples of different lengths.
Given your current setup with a constant voltage power supply, there are a few considerations:
Gel Composition: The gel composition, including the percentage of acrylamide, the concentration of denaturing agents (such as urea), and the formamide loading buffer, plays a crucial role in denaturation. Ensure that the gel composition is appropriate for your target DNA fragments.
Run Time: Running your samples for 3 hours at 65V suggests an extended run time, which may be contributing to the separation of your DNA fragments. You may want to optimize the run time based on the expected size difference between your 120bp and 100bp fragments.
Temperature Control: Although constant power is preferable, temperature control is critical. Ensure that the temperature of the running buffer is maintained within the optimal range for denaturation. Formamide loading buffer is often used to assist in denaturation by disrupting hydrogen bonds.
Power Supply Upgrade: If possible, consider investing in a power supply that allows for constant power settings. This can enhance the reproducibility and efficiency of your denaturing PAGE.
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If yes, then how can I interpret the results?
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I don't see the point in using multiple size markers. Size markers are used to estimate the size of your fragment. If the bands of your marker are too close in the region of your fragment, adjust the concentration of your gel. For instance, for an agarose gel, if the fragment size is in several kilobase pairs, use a low-concentration gel (between 0.4% and 0.8%). If the fragment size is in a few hundred base pairs, use a more concentrated gel (between 1.5% and 2%). I think it's more useful to adjust the gel concentration rather than using multiple different markers.
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If yes, then how can I interpret the results?
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Paul Rutland Thanks, dear sir.
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I've been doing miRNA northern bloting for over months. I have a question: Dose anybody know whether loading of total RNA with EB and run in denatured PAGE gel (15%, urea) cause shifting of the microRNA bands or not? I stained the gel post electrophoresis but the bands are poorly visualized; therefore I load total RNA with EB then run the gel, I found the signals of the rRNA and tRNA bands are very strong, but after hybridization of the transferred membrane, I found the band signals of the target miRNA as well as the artificial miRNA appeared in inappropriate position. They should be appeared in between the xylene cyanol and bromophenol blue bands. Could anybody tell me if I make it wrong? Why?
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Ethtidium bromide makes double stranded DNA run about 10% slower than EB free dna so it is possible that the secondary structure of the RNA is intercalating EB which is slowing its migration down
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I am studying DNA-ligand interactions with EMSA. Sometimes I cannot see the DNA bands in the PAGE gel when I stain it with Etbr. As silver staining is more sensitive to EtBr, I have to use the silver staining method. This can be time consuming. Is it possible to stain DNA with EtBr first and then stain the same sample with silver?
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Thank you for answer Jan. You are right, I tried today.
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Hello,
I don't understand the difference in what you can see after running your DNA on an urea or an alkaline gel. I know how alkaline works: high pH, hydrogen bonds are prevented, as a result your DNA migrates as ssDNA. But as far as I understand, it is the same with urea: you denature secondary structures with urea, but in the end it is also used to purify or analyze ssDNA.
I already run multiple urea PAGEs and I could distinguish between different ssDNA molecules on the gel. Now my supervisor told me to run an alkaline gel. However, I do not understand what additional information it would give me, since both are denaturing gels? How do you decide to run an urea or an alkaline gel?
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I looked into the paper from 1988 describing the method. "Thus, it is clear that alkaline conditions will permit a more sensitive detection of DNA damage, including single- and double-stranded DNA breaks and alkali-labile regions, such as apurinic and apyrimidinic sites [9] and phosphotriesters [10]"
Well, not identifying only breaks but also...
I know that people in the neighboring DNA repair group were dealing with the repair of abasic sites.
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Why is there background on my gel. It is due to Coomassie that will not destain. How do I eliminate it, and what is causing it?
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Background isn't actually a huge issue, although best to minimise it can be digitally extracted from your band values by using software to analyse your image.
Our Phoretix 1D software features a number of industry standard background removal techniques and you can get a free trial of it here to remove the background from your bands: https://totallab.com/products/phoretix-1d/
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I am using a PCR amplified product of around 56 bp with a T7 Promoter sequence and I am getting a single band after PCR. However, after in-vitro transcription of this PCR Product, I am getting two distinct bands on 15% Urea PAGE gel. I tried optimizing the reaction using Mg2+ and rNTP gradient. What should I do?
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Couldn't that extra band be single-stranded or double-stranded DNA from the T7-PCR template ?
Do you make a DNase digestion, before loading your sample on a gel ? In order to digest the double-stranded DNA T7-PCR template ?
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What could be the possible reason for not getting proper band of ladder while performing PAGE
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If you are getting bands with your extracted protein or DNA then the percentage of gel may be the cause of the problem.
Dilution of the ladder could be done.
You can load the ladder In the middle lane of the gel to understand if any electricity related issue is there in your power supply.
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I am trying to visualize labeled oligonucleotides with UREA PAGE, but I do not see any band. Do I have to change the wavelength of excitation ?
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If you are not seeing any bands on a urea-polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis (PAGE) when visualizing labeled oligonucleotides, changing the excitation wavelength may not be the primary solution. Instead, consider the following factors that could be contributing to the lack of visible bands:
  1. Gel composition: Ensure that the urea-PAGE gel you are using is properly prepared. Urea-PAGE gels typically require higher urea concentrations and lower acrylamide concentrations compared to regular denaturing PAGE gels. Verify that the gel composition and concentrations are appropriate for your specific oligonucleotide size range.
  2. Denaturation of samples: Ensure that your oligonucleotide samples are sufficiently denatured before loading onto the gel. Heat your samples at 95°C for a few minutes and quickly cool them on ice before loading. This step ensures that the oligonucleotides are in a single-stranded form for accurate separation.
  3. Loading buffer: Use an appropriate loading buffer that contains denaturing agents such as formamide or EDTA to maintain single-stranded conformation during electrophoresis. The loading buffer should also contain a tracking dye for visualization purposes. Ensure that you add the loading buffer to your samples before loading them onto the gel.
  4. Electrophoresis conditions: Optimize the electrophoresis conditions, such as the voltage, run time, and buffer composition. Urea-PAGE typically requires a lower voltage and longer run times compared to regular PAGE. Adjust these parameters accordingly to allow sufficient migration and separation of the oligonucleotides.
  5. Detection method: Consider the detection method you are using to visualize the labeled oligonucleotides. If you are using a fluorescent label, such as a fluorescent dye or a radioactive label, ensure that your imaging system is set up to detect the appropriate excitation and emission wavelengths for the specific label you are using. Check the specifications of your imaging system and adjust the settings accordingly.
  6. Labeling efficiency: Assess the efficiency of your oligonucleotide labeling reaction. If the labeling efficiency is low, it may result in weak or undetectable bands. Verify the labeling protocol you are using, including the labeling reagents, reaction conditions, and purification steps. Consider optimizing the labeling reaction to improve the labeling efficiency.
Before changing the excitation wavelength, ensure that you have exhausted other troubleshooting steps mentioned above. Changing the excitation wavelength is generally not the first approach unless you have specific reasons to suspect that the excitation wavelength is incompatible with your labeled oligonucleotide or imaging system.
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I'm trying to attain kinetic parameters of TdT. And I'm using Fam-labeled oligo. I made 20% TBE-UREA PAGE, with 8 M urea. I pre-run my gel and load only 5 microliter of sample. The first four lanes from left are my oligonucleotide with incubation with enzyme and the last lane is my control without enzyme. I want to get discrete bands , what should I do?
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To obtain discrete bands instead of smears in UREA-PAGE, you can try the following suggestions:
  1. Gel preparation: Ensure that your UREA-PAGE gel is properly prepared with high-quality reagents. Make sure the gel is properly cast, without any bubbles or imperfections that could affect band resolution.
  2. Urea concentration: Experiment with different urea concentrations in the gel. Higher urea concentrations, such as 8 M urea as you mentioned, can provide better denaturing conditions but may also contribute to smearing. You can try reducing the urea concentration slightly to see if it improves band resolution without compromising denaturation.
  3. Sample preparation: Optimize your sample preparation to ensure clean and concentrated samples. Use purification methods, such as ethanol precipitation or column purification, to remove impurities and excess reagents that can contribute to smearing. Concentrate your samples if necessary to achieve higher band intensity.
  4. Denaturation and heating: Ensure proper denaturation of your samples before loading onto the gel. Heat your samples at an appropriate temperature (e.g., 95°C) for a sufficient amount of time to ensure complete denaturation of the oligonucleotides.
  5. Loading volume: Reduce the volume of your sample loaded onto the gel. In UREA-PAGE, loading smaller volumes (e.g., 2-3 μL) can help achieve sharper, more discrete bands.
  6. Run time and voltage: Optimize the running time and voltage for your specific UREA-PAGE setup. Experiment with different running times and voltages to find the optimal conditions that give you the best band resolution.
  7. Gel handling: Handle the gel with care to avoid smudging or distorting the bands. Use clean tools and avoid excessive handling of the gel during staining and destaining steps.
  8. Gel staining and visualization: Use appropriate staining methods, such as fluorescent dyes or silver staining, to visualize the bands on the gel. Follow the staining protocol carefully, ensuring adequate staining time without overexposure.
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Hello everyone,
I wanted to visualize my DNA fragments after PCR in Non-denaturing PAGE, however I could not. Because amper was not increased during the PAGE assay.
what are the causes of not increasing amper in Non-denaturing PAGE?
(I used freshly prepeared 5X TBE (PH:8.29). I used Bıo-Rad Mini-PROTEAN® Tetra system for PAGE asssay)
Thank you in advance.
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There can be several reasons why the amperage does not increase during non-denaturing polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis (PAGE). Here are some possible causes to consider:
  1. Incorrect voltage setting: Ensure that the voltage is set correctly on the power supply. The voltage should be sufficient to drive the migration of DNA fragments through the gel but not too high to cause excessive heating or damage to the gel. Check the voltage settings on the power supply and adjust if necessary.
  2. Electrical circuit issues: Check the electrical connections in the gel apparatus, including the electrodes and cables. Make sure all connections are secure and not loose or damaged. Poor electrical connections can lead to inadequate current flow and a lack of increase in amperage.
  3. Buffer conductivity: The conductivity of the buffer affects the electrical current during electrophoresis. Ensure that the 5X TBE buffer you prepared has the correct concentration of TBE salts to provide sufficient conductivity. If the buffer conductivity is too low, it can result in a lack of current increase. You can check the conductivity of the buffer using a conductivity meter and adjust it if needed.
  4. Gel issues: Verify that the gel was properly prepared and cast. Ensure that the gel concentration is appropriate for the size range of your DNA fragments and that the gel is not too tight or too loose. An improperly prepared gel can affect the current flow and result in a lack of amperage increase.
  5. Gel apparatus issues: Inspect the gel apparatus, including the chamber, electrode chambers, and buffer chambers. Ensure that there are no leaks or blockages that may impede the current flow. Make sure that the gel is properly positioned between the electrodes and that there are no air bubbles trapped in the gel or buffer.
  6. Power supply limitations: Some power supplies have maximum current limits, and if the resistance of the gel is too high, the power supply may reach its maximum current output and not increase further. Check the specifications of your power supply to see if it has any current limitations that may be affecting the amperage increase.
By addressing these potential causes, you should be able to troubleshoot the issue of not increasing amperage during non-denaturing PAGE. It's important to follow proper gel electrophoresis protocols and optimize the conditions for your specific experiment to obtain the desired results.
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We're using a 15% PAGE gel to separate a 98 vs 118 bp oligo, but are struggling to obtain adequate yields using crush and soak and various diffusion-based kits. We are considering trying electroelution, and one of the products we've found are G-capsules. Most papers using them seem to use them to elute genomic DNA from low-% agarose gels. Has anyone here tried them for something similar to our application?
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G-capsules are commonly used for the electroelution of DNA or RNA fragments from agarose gels, but their application for recovering oligos from high-% polyacrylamide gels is less commonly reported. However, the principle of electroelution remains the same regardless of the gel type.
Here are some considerations to keep in mind if you are considering using G-capsules for electroelution of oligos from high-% PAGE gels:
  1. Gel compatibility: G-capsules are typically designed for use with agarose gels. High-% polyacrylamide gels have different properties and can potentially pose challenges for electroelution. Ensure that the G-capsules are compatible with polyacrylamide gels and consider any potential differences in elution efficiency or recovery compared to agarose gels.
  2. Elution buffer: The choice of elution buffer is crucial for the efficient recovery of oligos. Optimize the elution buffer composition, pH, and conductivity to facilitate the migration of the oligos from the gel to the G-capsule during the electroelution process. Typically, a buffer with low salt concentration and a slightly alkaline pH is used.
  3. Voltage and duration: Determine the appropriate voltage and duration for the electroelution process. Optimal conditions may vary depending on the gel thickness, size of the oligos, and the specific properties of the G-capsules. It may require some optimization experiments to find the optimal conditions for your oligo recovery.
  4. Gel handling: Take care in handling the high-% PAGE gel during the electroelution process. The gel may be more fragile than agarose gels, so ensure gentle handling to avoid damage or breakage during the transfer to the G-capsules.
It's important to note that while G-capsules can be a useful tool for electroelution, the recovery efficiency of oligos from high-% PAGE gels may vary compared to agarose gels. It may be beneficial to consult relevant literature or reach out to the manufacturer of the G-capsules to inquire about their specific use with high-% polyacrylamide gels.
As with any new technique, it is recommended to perform pilot experiments and optimize the conditions to achieve the best results for your specific application.
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After starting the electrophoresis my samples often 'fall' trough the pocket of the gel and accumulate on the stacking/resolving gel border. Every ingredient of the gel had been prepared fresh, the gel was allowed to polymerize long enough and was also stored correctly. Had anyone similar problems and knows how to solve this?
Thank you for your advice.
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Here are some potential causes and troubleshooting steps to address this issue:
  1. Insufficient sample loading volume: Ensure that you are loading an appropriate volume of your samples into the wells. If you are not loading enough volume, the samples may not be retained in the wells and can migrate into the resolving gel. Increase the sample volume to ensure proper loading.
  2. Incorrect well formation: Check the formation of the wells before loading your samples. Make sure that the comb or well-forming accessory is properly inserted into the gel, creating well pockets that are deep and have straight sides. If the wells are not well-formed, it can lead to sample leakage during electrophoresis.
  3. Buffer compatibility: Confirm that the buffer used for sample loading is compatible with the gel and running conditions. Incompatible buffer compositions can affect the stacking and migration of the samples. Use the appropriate buffer recommended for your specific gel system.
  4. Gel concentration and pore size: Ensure that the gel concentration and pore size are appropriate for your samples. If the gel concentration is too low or the pore size is too large, the samples may migrate too quickly, bypassing the wells and accumulating at the gel border. Consider adjusting the gel concentration or using a different gel with smaller pore sizes.
  5. Electrophoresis conditions: Optimize the electrophoresis conditions, including voltage and run time. Running the gel at a lower voltage or for a shorter duration can help prevent the rapid migration of the samples and improve their retention in the wells.
  6. Sample preparation: Ensure that your samples are properly prepared and mixed before loading. Aggregates, precipitates, or inconsistent mixing can contribute to sample falling through the wells. Centrifuge the samples briefly before loading and mix them thoroughly to achieve uniform distribution.
By addressing these potential issues, you should be able to improve the retention of your samples within the wells during gel electrophoresis. It's always a good idea to perform controls and optimize your protocol to achieve the best results.
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I know that both Orange G and Bromophenol blue are negatively charged dyes and that Orange G may migrate faster in an agarose gel.
I found a resource that says Orange G can be used in Native-PAGE and in a DNA PAGE but I cannot find any resources that say whether the two dyes are interchangeable in a protein SDS-PAGE.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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Yes, I use it all the time. Works great for NIR scanning with a LiCor. LiCor sells a pre-made 4X loading solution.
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Hello all,
I have been trying to extract RNA from polyacrylamide gel and I am consistently getting low A260/230 ratios (0.7-1.2) and this interferes with my downstream application. I believe this impurity is linear polyacrylamide. I have tried a few different procedures and also tried using the Zymo ZR-small RNA PAGE extraction kit. Has anyone ever faced similar issues? I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!
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To remove this impurity from RNA extracted from gel electrophoresis, you can try the following methods:
  1. Ethanol precipitation: Try repeating the RNA precipitation step with ethanol and sodium acetate. Add an equal volume of 100% ethanol and 1/10 volume of 3M sodium acetate to the RNA sample, mix well and incubate at -20°C for at least 30 minutes. Then, centrifuge the sample at maximum speed for 30 minutes at 4°C, discard the supernatant, and wash the pellet with 70% ethanol. Air-dry the pellet and resuspend in nuclease-free water or buffer.
  2. Spin column purification: Use a spin column-based RNA purification kit that includes a desalting or washing step to remove small impurities such as linear polyacrylamide. Follow the manufacturer's instructions carefully and use RNase-free reagents and equipment.
  3. Gel filtration: Try running the RNA sample through a gel filtration column or matrix that can separate RNA from linear polyacrylamide based on size. Choose a column or matrix with appropriate molecular weight cutoff and binding capacity for your RNA size and concentration.
  4. Precast gel: Try using precast polyacrylamide gels that do not contain linear polyacrylamide as a running buffer or carrier. These gels are designed for RNA electrophoresis and purification and may reduce contamination from linear polyacrylamide.
A low A260/230 ratio may not necessarily indicate the presence of linear polyacrylamide, and other contaminants or interfering substances such as residual salts or organic solvents can also affect the ratio. Therefore, it's important to check the purity and integrity of RNA samples by running them on a gel or using a bioanalyzer or spectrophotometer before using them for downstream applications.
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When I casting Urea PAGE gel, I can see the gel shrink in bottom and no wells formed but gel solidified. Does anyone know a possible reason or how to minimize this?
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I have many suggestions.
1. Try to add more gel after pouring of your gel in to casting tray and after placing comb in to the plate.
2. Check any linkage
3. Use recommended concentrations of all the chemicals (try to use new)
4. Clam should be on the bottom half of the plate not just near the comb.
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My protein of interest is a bacterial inner membrane associated protein. And I suspect it to be forming an insoluble aggregate in a mutant strain. I read that Blue Native PAGE works better than just Native PAGE for membrane proteins. Is that true? I was planning on running a Blue-Native PAGE and then doing a Western with it to test if my protein forms an aggregate. Alternatively, is it better to just run a Native PAGE here instead of Blue Native PAGE?
I appreciate in advance all your help/guidance/comments addressing my question.
PS: We have a BIO-RAD mini gel apparatus in the lab, so I would love to have a protocol that works with this system.
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Sukhithasri . V Prapti Chakraborty Hi Both, I too have similar question. I am using bio rad mini protean precast gels. I need to do BN-PAGE. are you successful in your experiment? Could you please share protocol/suggestions with me? i can share my email in that case. Thanks in advance!!
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I just ran a and SDS PAGE with 12% resolving gel and 4% stacking gel. The problem is that as soon as I turned on the electricity (180V), the samples moved down the stacking gel in a wiggly manner. Then when they reached the line between the stacking and resolving gels, the samples dispersed. I continued running the gel but after the staining I did not get any bands except for my standard ladder. Has anyone experience such a thing before?
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I have the same problem but I think it could be the way I remove the comb from the gel before loading the samples. Maybe it is too harsh and causes detachment of the two gels
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I am carrying out polymorphism studies using ssr markers and running them on 6% polyacrylamide gel using 1x tbe buffer. But I'm facing smearing type of bands and multiple bands in certain samples can anyone kindly answer why this problem is encountering
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I would run the gel at a lower voltage.The smiling bands could be caused by too much salt in the sample or by being run at too high a voltage. I agree with Michael J. Benedik that some of the samples are overloaded.
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I run my gene specific primer PCR product on 2.5% Agarose it did not show any amplification only primer dimer was seen
But the same product I used in 8% PAGE gel (with silver staining process) it shown the amplification result
What is the reason behind it...
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My only guess is that the silver stain is just extremely sensitive compared to your agarose gel. Are you using ethidium bromide or something similar for the agarose? The detection limit of this usually falls off hard below 25-50 ng while the silver stain is much better than that so it can see what the agarose gel cannot.
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How can I separate two DNA fragments of 3000bp and 3700bp using polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis?
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Why would you separate fragments of this size using polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis? standard 0.8%-1% agarose gels can resolve these fragments.
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I prepared a large number of protein extract samples for polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis with bromophenol blue to track migration through the gel. I have also tried (unsuccessfully) to detect a protein of interest in these samples by ELISA. I suspect the bromophenol blue is interfering the protein's interaction with the high binding plate. Has anyone experienced this problem before?
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If your samples were prepared in SDS-PAGE sample buffer, the SDS will probably prevent the proteins from binding to the plates because the detergent will act as a blocking agent. I don't know whether bromophenol blue has this effect also.
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Dear all,
I am trying to do an EMSA experiment with ssDNA. I am redoing an EMSA that was published.
The gel is a small (10 x 8 cm) 10% polyacrylamide (37.5:1), TAE (40 mM Tris pH7.6, 2.5 mM EDTA)
The binding buffer is 10mMTris pH7.6, 50 mM KCl, 1 mM DTT, 10 ug/ml BSA and 20 nM ssDNA oligos. The binding reaction is done at 20C for 30 min.
The gel is pre-runned at 45V for 1hr. in running buffer (10 mM Tris, 50mM KCL and 2 mM EDTA)
after binding reaction 10 ul was loaded on gel and run for 2 hrs at 45V.
What is going on with my gels? is the gel getting too hot? I do run the gels in the cold room or in an iced box. Please someone give me some pointers? Thank you!
Johannes H Matse
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I've obtained similar gel electrophoresis results when I re-used a MES-buffer too often.(although those were not EMSAs)
So I would agree with Skalenko to try at least to match your gel and running buffer (TAE or TB).
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I am doing in vitro transcription, my target RNA is 36nt in length. After transcription when I am running it on Denaturing gel, I am not able to see my RNA band under UV shadowing. But when I am staining the PAGE gel with SYBR gold I am observing the RNA band at correct length. For Cutting the RNA band and it's purification, I need to cut the band under UV shadowing. I have attached here the gels with and without staining.Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
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Markers might help, also labeling gels, the UV shadowing usually looks more like the bottom gel, see here
with a very green background due to the fluorescent TLC plate under gel
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I have run mRNA on 1.5% TAE gel but the band is ~4kb above its actual size. I have heat my sample at 90oC for 2 mins to avoid secondary structures. But I haven't seen the mRNA on actual size.
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Yes, I have restricted plasmid with XbaI (Neb) at the end of the gene. This enzymes prodces 3' sticky ends.
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I have been seeing this weird looking gels. I am running RNA in 15% PAGE for 90 min at 90 V. Have anyone of you come across this situation? Can someone suggest me any idea to resolve this?
My 15% PAGE recipe is Acrylamide = 3.75 ml, TBE Buffer (10x) = 1 ml, 10% APS = 0.25 ml, TEMED = 15 ul, Water = 5 ml.
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The smiling effect can be ameliorated by running at lower voltages or by submerging the tank in ice bath to reduce buffer heating. As suggested above, it is also helpful to add mol. wt. markers to fine tune the troubleshooting.
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Hello everyone
I am looking for a PAGE gel protocol/recipe for RNA.
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Hello everyone,
I am relatively new to Western blotting and am having problems with transfer efficiency (wet). Some protein has been getting transferred from the gel to the membrane based on my Ponceau S staining but not very much. When we visualize with fluorescent antibodies, I have only been able to see fluorescence for actin and not any of our other proteins which should be expressed relatively higher in our mutant strain.
Recently, I ran 2 gels and stained 1 with Coomassie blue before transfer and 1 after transfer. The protein bands seem about the same intensity/size on both except for the protein ladder. The lane with the protein ladder left no bands after transfer expect for 1 around 17kDA.
I have been using Towbin's transfer buffer (192 mM glycine, 25 mM tris, 20% methanol) and the Mini-PROTEAN Tetra Cell for transfer. The membrane type is 0.45 uM PVDF membrane which I have been soaking in methanol for 10 min and then TTB for 5 min. All other transfer cassette sandwich materials, including the gel, I equilibrate in TTB for 15 min.
I have tried transferring overnight at 4C and 25V and for 1 hr at RT and 100 V with similar results. During the last transfer, I also recorded the starting and ending current (start-231 mA --> end-367 mA). 1 hr RT w/ ice pack and stir bar. The TTB I used I made that day and chilled in the fridge for about an hour.
Are there any red flags in my protocol that might be affecting my transfer?
Any help would be appreciated, thank you!
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Maynak Chakraborty Thank you for the reply! That makes sense. I have been told to rinse off the gels before transfer to wash off any excess SDS.
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Hi all,
I am trying to purify from PAGE gels (with or without UREA) RNA/DNA fragments which lengths are between (for instance) 40 nt and 60 nt.
What I though was to produce some sort of home-made ladder that shows 2 bands for the limits I need and then cut between these two (in another well of course). Therefore I ordered 2 DNA primers, one of 40 and the other of 60 nt and I run them on a PAGe gel to see how they are migrating. What I got was only a smir (see figure).
Is this because my primer was perhaps too concentrated or I am just doing something silly? Do you have better suggestions on how to track specific lengths on a PAGe gel?
Thanks!
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In general, electrophoresis allows us to determine how many distinct DNA fragments are present in a sample and how big they are in relation to one another. We can also establish the absolute size of a piece of DNA by comparing it to a standard "yardstick" made out of known-size DNA fragments.
This tutorial might be useful, have a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmaBtxym30
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I want to do a toeprinting assay to map translation start sites. Typically, these experiments are carried out with radioactively labeled oligos that are extended using reverse transcriptase. However, working with radioactivity is difficult in my institution, and I would like to avoid it.
I am thinking of an alternative. Specifically, what I am planning to do is to use 5'-biotinylated primers, then employ reverse transcriptase as in the standard protocol, then run the primer extension products on a PAGE gel, then transfer it onto nitrocellulose membrane just as if it were a Western blot (I would use the exact same protocol, just leaving out the SDS), and finally stain the membrane with streptavidin-HRP.
To my surprise, I nowhere found a protocol like this in the literature. Instead everybody keeps working with radioactively labeled primers. This suggests to me that my plan is probably a bad idea, because somebody must have tried this, right?
If anyone would like to way in, I would appreciate an opinion. I'd be happy about any support for my experimental layout, any concerns why this might/will not work, or suggestions on how I could optimize the plan ...
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I understand. That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. This is very helpful!
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I am doing DNA PAGE. Buffer is TBE. I controlled the buffer in agarose gel electrophoresis system (in gel and also as buffer) but it is working. I can see sometimes bubbles but the voltage needs to be max. 300 V. What should I do?
Thank you
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What current are you getting and at what voltage?
It may be that your power supply is set on a maximum current or voltage or wattage and you cannot get above a certain current. Check your power supply settings
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Hi...can anyone suggest me....
Related to PAGE. (Polyacrylamide Gel Electrophoresis) and it's protocol..How much voltage and current need to keep during PAGE run and why?..... Why actually PAGE is preferred much over normal agarose gel for polymorphism? ..Dry run need to be done for how long? . . .
Role of APS ,,TEMED and ABS in PAGE...
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Polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis of SDS-treated proteins allows researchers to separate proteins based on their length in an easy, inexpensive, and relatively accurate manner. Harshavardan Hilli
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We are using NuPAGE gels to resolve protein samples, and the included protocol calls for the addition of 0.5mL "antioxidant" to the inner gel chamber. I understand the purpose of the reagent, but is anyone aware of a recipe to prepare an appropriate substitute?
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We used 15% sodium bisulfite and 10% N,N-Dimethylformamide dissolved in ddH2O (http://www.cellsignet.com/protocols/buffers.html). It works fine for us in both gel running and membrane transfer. It may generates crystals when storage in 4°C, but performance was not influenced.
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I tried to synthesize RNA from a linear DNA template, but I found there were always RNAs of various lengths that got synthesized after repeating the experiment two times. I have added RNase inhibitor every time but still got many RNA bands. And I run the RNA in denaturing PAGE. Does anyone have any suggestion or explanation of this problem?
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I don't think this is degradation issue: a lot of RNAses are exonucleases, and in my experience if RNA is being degraded by RNAses, it doesn't produce fragments, it's just...gone.
My suspicion is incomplete transcripts.
In vitro synthesis just isn't that great, basically: with long templates, RNApols might fall off half-way through , and that partially completed RNA is now stuck like that. You'll see, as a consequence, your full-length RNA, plus a range of smaller bands.
This might even happen in a sequence-dependent manner (some regions might be more or less likely to elicit RNApol dissociation), so you might see variable intensity in those smaller bands.
Alternatively, for short templates, you'll find that most RNApols add a few extra bases when they reach the end, so if you're trying to synthesise, say...an 18nt RNA, you will often find multiple bands ranging from 25nt down to 15nt.
It does this for longer templates too, by the way, but it's a lot harder to see the difference between 500nt and 503nt on a gel.
Examples here (just the first google hit, so not in-depth research):
What are you planning to use the RNA for?
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I am having a recurring issue with the incomplete transfer of protein bands from my PAGE gel to the PVDF membrane. SOME proteins transfer, but many do not. These bands that aren't transferring are prominent bands, so there has to be a significant amount of protein there. I have attached a picture (the stain-free PAGE gel is in the left and the blot is on the right. The red arrows indicate just a couple of significant bands that are missing.).
The transfer protocol is 16 hours at 35V constant, 90 amps. Transfer buffer is Towbin without SDS.
Any suggestions would be appreciated!
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Thicker gels can result in incomplete transfer because thicker the gel, the farther the protein has to migrate to reach the membrane. Effective transfer of proteins out of gels up to 1.5mm thick can be achieved. Thicker gels, although having increased protein capacity, offer little advantage owing to reduced removal of proteins from the thicker gel matrix.
Also ensure sufficient contact between gel and membrane during transfer.
Make sure transfer sandwich is assembled correctly.
Avoid overheating during electro-transfer.
As Tomasz Fraczyk mentioned stain the gel with Coomassie blue after transfer is complete to determine transfer efficiency.
Best,
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I'm trying to replace my small RNA prestain ladder with a much cheaper tracking dye that I can make up myself. Has anyone any suggestions. I run 10% urea-PAGE gels for 75 mins at 300V. I tested Bromophenol blue and Xylene Cyanol recently and Bromophenol blue co-migrates with RNA fragments that are too small so it runs off the gel before it is useful. The Xylene cyanol co-migrated with 30bp RNA which is great. I'm looking for something that will also co-migrate at the 20bp mark too as we use this mark as a guide when to stop the gel. I was wondering if cresol red is useful but haven't seen it used on a 10% PAGE gel. Thanks in advance.
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Hmm, you could try the loading dyes in commercial kits (they don't usually tell you the dyes they used), but at least it's pretty cheap to buy just the dyes. Check the freezers or ask around. You'd have to empirically determine if they run at a size that's useful for you.
But I'm also guessing that the pre-stain small RNA ladder you are using is NOT the most expensive part of your protocol. Your time is valuable. Might be worth the cost to just buy the product that you know works.
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Hi RG community,
I'm about to order some single guide RNAs (gRNAs) for CRISPR/Cas9 site-directed knockouts following Bassett and Liu (2014) protocol (paper below). Briefly, two partially overlapping primers (an ~ 64 nt forward target-specific and an 80 nt universal reverse) are used in PCR amplification to generate a DNA template, which will then be used for T7 in vitro transcription (gRNA synthesis).
Now, I've always ordered these primers PAGE-purified, reasoning that more full-length oligos (non-truncated) would generate more full-length functional gRNAs, thus getting more mutagenesis efficiency. However, some colleagues have been using standard de-salted oligos instead, and they have the impression that works just fine. Considering that they're way cheaper than PAGE-purified oligos, it might worth a try, but I'm very skeptical about it.
So, that's the question: are PAGE purified oligos really necessary for CRISPR/Cas9 mutagenesis?
Any and all comments are very appreciated!
Dani.
Bassett and Liu (2014):
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Standard de-salted oligos will be fine.
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I’m looking for a simplified protocol for a Blue-native PAGE. Can someone please share their thoughts and experience. Thank you.
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I performed BN-PAGE for OXPHOS complexes following a protocol paper published in Nature Protocols
You can start with this protocol and if you have any doubt related to protocol etc, you can post it here.
Good Luck
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hi
i am running a native page to measure the amount of bovine serum IgG.
whether i run PAGE for one hour or two hour, protein is placed near to loading channel like the photo.
does pH affect the protein, so that it has no charge..?
or is acrylamide-bis percentage so high that pore size is small to pass
thank you for reading.
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Do you need to run a gel to quantify your protein? If it's a powder of good purity you could do a Bradford assay instead. Might be easier than silver staining!
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Does pre-running the PAGE gels useful/helpful? Does it affect the resolution of bands? If yes, what might be the reason. Asking this because I've got both positive and negative reviews on this.
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yees i recommend it
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I intend to dilute my protein samples in PBS but am concerned since this is a different buffer system compared to the Tris buffers used in PAGE. I would like to ask if suspending my proteins in PBS, aliquoting it, and mixing with electrophoresis sample buffer is just fine.
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There is no harm in diluting protein samples in PBS and subsequently use for electrophoresis. But, it is ideal to use 50 mM Tris-HCl buffer, pH 7.5 for extraction of proteins and subsequent electrophoresis. PBS is a good extraction as well as solubilising buffer than Tris-HCl, we very often use PBS for extraction of proteins in tissue samples and electrophoresis under Tris-buffer system. However, it involves excellent working knowledge on your target proteins, type of tissues etc. to decide on appropriate buffers for extraction and electrophoresis.
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Dear collegues,
The final aim is common: to band cut distinct PCR products from my gel slice after PAG vertical electrophoresis folowed by purification/elution. However, I could not obtain specific well defined bands in my gel in spite of well known capability of this approach to divide PCR amplicons few bp distinguished. I attached the picture of my gel (see the 3rd well). What am I wrong pursuing the ideal picture with defined sharp bands, whether it is feasible at all?
Gel composition: stock solution (20% acrylamide, 5% bis-acrylamide) diluted in 3.3 times, so the final concentration is 6%. Both Persulfate ammonium and TMED are used for crosslinkage.
Device parameters: Bio-rad chamber and power supply on impulsed protocol: 50V for 30' followed by 150V for 60'.
Product size: 870 bp
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Hello Anshuman,
it seems I got it. Do you mean that due to inapropriate annealing the primer amplified undesired sequence? So, then I would get heterogenous matrix following sequencing reaction and subsequent Sanger sequencing. I see only one distinct sequnce upon phoresis, anyway. Maybe you mentioned situation when lots of long (undisired: resricted by either primer) fragments were amplified along with desired ones (restricted by both primers) and thus entire post-pcr mix is composed of products with various length. It is likely to occur because overload of initial template and thus primers were capable to elongate its strands as long as both template and polymerase propensity exist? The latter in turn means the less template you add the less undesired fragments you get?
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Hi everyone,
I am interested in performing fingerpitng DNA tests with ISSR and RAPD markers. Is a special purification of the primers needed (PAGE or HPLC) ? Can the type of purification affect the result? can I use the purification that is perform by default (MOPC)?.
Thank you in advance.
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  • I would say that base addition in making oligos is now hugely efficient and as a result short primers up to 25mers do not need purification Typical efficiencies are about 99% for each base addition so for a 25 mer will have .99exp n-1 or about 79% full length oligo and many of the very shortmers will not anneal. Shorter oligos will be even better yield
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I'm working with very short sequences of ssDNA (~20 nt), and, when I run PAGE gels (Novex TBE, 20%), I frequently observe bands that look like bubbles. The attached image shows what happens when we run for about 2.5 hours at 80 V (we pre-run for half an hour). We've also tried larger voltages with no avail. I know this is somewhat of a niche use case for these gels, but does anyone have ideas on what's going on/how to prevent this? Thanks!
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Hi Michael,
I'm struggling with a very similar issue at the moment, and was wondering if you discovered a solution to the issue?
Thanks
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I'd like to perform single-strand conformation polymorphism (SSCP) in my thesis, however I cannot control the temperature of the vertical PAGE since we are using the conventional tanks. Is there a way that I could somehow lower and monitor its temperature?
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Thank you Ravinder Kumar and I was very happy to see the care that you had taken in using the empty fridge. For anyone else who is interested in what happens if care is not taken the attached is interesting
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Hi, I'm trying to produce ssDNA from PCR. I want to use it for SELEX procedure.
The idea is to use polyA tail tagged reverse primer. I hope I can get an unequal length of DNA strand. Then used Denaturing PAGE to separate and purify it. I'm only interested to use the forward strand. Any advice if this possible?
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it is workable, but you should add the space modified then longer the polyA in the reverse primer
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I want to extract a protein from polyacrylamide gel to be used for immunization. I am wondering if I need to run PAGE since sds might interfere with the immunization process.
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The classical procedure is to run your sample on SDS-PAGE, fix, stain and destain the gel and then cut out the band of interest. Wash with 2 changes of PBS, mash it up thoroughly in adjuvants (complete first time, incomplete for boosters) and then inject. Contrary to acrylamide, polyacrylamide is not toxic, but serves as a depot for the antigen. If you are very short of antigen, you can inject directly into a lymph node at the hind leg of the rabbit, this is a surgical procedure, so you'll need a vet to carry it out.
For all antibody-related procedures, check out ISBN 9780879693145, which is still the authoritative reference. And of course, you need permission from your local animal use committee for any such experiments.
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Hi all,
I am having keratin hydrolysate in dry form. For performing PAGE which will be the suitable solvent for it as it is not fully dissolving in double-distilled water.
I would also like to know whether any further reaction may occur and interfere with my result (protein is denatured) during the reaction of SDS and mercaptoethanol with my native keratin hydrolysate.
Experts pls give me the answer.
Thanks in advance.
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Do not heat your sample at 95 degree celcius for longer, first try without heating, if dye is not mixing well, then only mildly heat very little to avoid denaturation.
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HI, 
I am performing the incision and excision assay of 30 mer oligonucleotides of various glycosylases. After the assay, I am resolving them on Urea-PAGE. As far as I understand Urea PAGE resolves only the single stranded DNA  but I am getting two different bands. I have also added a control of ssDNA but there are some bands that are quite a bit slower than that. I am confused what is wrong in there. Prior to loading in the gel, I heat the sample with 80% formamide at 90C. 
Lane 1= ssDNA
Lane 2= dsDNA with lesion opposite G, No enzyme
lane 3= dsDNA with lesion opposite C,No enzyme
lane 4= dsDNA with lesion opposite A, No enzyme
lane 5= dsDNA with lesion opposite T, No enzyme
Lane 6= dsDNA with lesion opposite G with enzyme
lane 7= dsDNA with lesion opposite C with enzyme
lane 8= dsDNA with lesion opposite A with enzyme
lane 9= dsDNA with lesion opposite T with enzyme
 Thanks.
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Thank you, really helpful. I will give a try.
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I am willing to Cas13 in vitro. Can it be directly purified from PAGE gel, please suggest me the method.
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Dear Dr. Michael,
Thanks for your kind response. Yes, I need an active protein of 132 kDa.
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Currently have punched mouse brain samples of different regions that are of too low protein concentration for Western Blot. Has anyone used the polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis method to detect multiple proteins? Or read it anywhere and can link the literature? Thanks!
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When you say "too low [protein] for western blot", do you mean you've actually tested this, or are you just assuming you need to load 20-40ug per lane, and you don't have that much?
Because western blotting can be incredibly sensitive: you may be able to see useful signal even with much lower protein loads.
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I want to run Native PAGE for my G-quadruplex forming Oligonucleotides in presence of a specific metal ion and also to stain it for visualization.Also it is already known that Ethidium Bromide is a weak binder for G-quadruplex. Our lab have Stains-all and Silver stain available. Our lab is new to this topic and no one in our lab has experienced about this.I have tried using some online protocol 2-3 times but it does not work good. Does anyone of you are using this techniques in your lab and if yes, can you please share the protocols for the same.I would be highly obliged.
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Several times I was able to successfully stained Native PAGE gels as well as IEF 2-D PAGE gels using the method mentioned below:
  1. Fix the gel in fixation solution (40% ethanol, 10% acetic acid, 50% water) for 30 minutes.
  2. Treat the gel with protein treatment solution (20% ethanol, 5% acetic acid, 75% water, 4 mg dithiothreitol) for 30 minutes.
  3. Rinse the gel with 0.5% dichromate for 5 minutes.
  4. Wash the gel with water for 5 minutes.
  5. Equilibrate the gel with 0.1% silver nitrate for 30 minutes.
  6. Briefly wash the gel with water for 1 minute.
  7. Incubate the gel in complex formation solution 0.02% formaldehyde, 3% sodium carbonate (Na2CO3).
  8. Add 1% acetic acid to stop the complex formation.
  9. Fix the gels onto glass or polyester sheets for indefinite storage.
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Samples need denaturing or non-reducing? Should loading buffer contain reduce reagent or/and SDS? Should Gel and Running buffer contain SDS?
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Thank you very much.
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My DNA library has 140 nt long sequence with randomization at certain places. We will order the library of 4nmol concentration desalted which has 1.8x10^8 copy number variants. According to the company (from where we are ordering the library), says upon PAGE purification the yield turns out to be 0.5nmol. We want to retain as much as possible from the initial 4nmol, while not losing on the number of variants as well. Does someone deal with DNA library, PAGE purification? If yes, what conditions shall we keep in mind and what percentage of the PAGE is ideal to use?
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The 4 nmol would usually be a reference to the nucleotides that go into the synthesis -- not the DNA that comes out. You're going to lose a lot while putting them together. So even the "desalted" variety is going to have much less than the nominal "4 nmol". And then you lose some more during PAGE too, both product and contaminant OD. That's unavoidable. Your numbers are typical. The only way to get more of it, is to order a proportionally larger scale. Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear :)
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Hello, I am trying to check how antibody reduction (using 2-MEA) depends on reaction time and analyse the results using PAGE. Following the standard protocol samples should be mixed with sample buffer and boiled before loading, however, temperature activates 2-MEA and the meaning of experiment is lost. I tried loading samples without boiling, but it resulted in additional bands that did not corresponded to MW marker.
Desalting is not an option because of small sample sizes and pricing.
Should I increase the SDS concentration in sample buffer?
Are there any other options?
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I suggest you to try :
1. Comparison between non-reducing and reducing gel.
2. Followed by reducing gel ....could be at different heating temp. with sample (without 2-ME)buffer. You can try different conc. of 2-ME , but it might no provide expected results !!
Please see the link below for further details:
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I am using TBE-Urea gels in PAGE to analyze ssDNA. About half of the protocols (like Qiagen and Biorad) out there insist on pre-running the gel at constant wattage to pre-heat it. However, others (including suppliers like Thermo, invitrogen) do not say anything about pre-running.
Who should I trust and why ? Has anyone actually compared a normal gel to a pre-run gel (ideally for ssDNA) ? Is this dependant on wether you work with RNA or ssDNA ?
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The theory would be that a preheated gel would ensure your ssDNA remains fully denatured and does not assume any secondary structure that might impact its mobility. Whether it matters or not is most likely going to depend upon the sequence of the DNA itself, so in most cases it probably doesn't matter, in some cases it might.
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I've been having all sorts of issues with my PAGE gels.  I just solved the mystery of why they weren't polymerizing, ran one set of gels and they looked great.  Second set, after antibody staining, the lanes curve into each other like to the point where they taper and look like everything ran out at a single point at the bottom.  What could this be?  
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It is possible that there's bad connectivity across the gel, such as your anode/cathode may be broken. If the current/voltage is coming from a point source (due to a broken wire), they will all travel to that point instead of uniformly towards a wire. Alternatively, its possible that there's something blocked the current in some parts of the gel, but that is unlikely. I've only seen that to be a problem with pre-cast gels and forgetting to remove protective film.
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Hi everybody,
I would like to ask you, if you have some experiences with these kind of smears - greater than specific products, after dsRNA production. Our template (into in vitro transcription reaction) was purified pcr-products, lenght circa 400 bp with T7 promoter sequences, we used MEGAscript Kit (AM1330) - circa 1ug of template, folowing purification and precipitation with MEGAclear Kit (AM1908).
In the final results, we separated fragments (hoping we got only one specific band) by electrophoresis on 1% agarose gel. I am mostly affraid of too long in vitro transcription - 16 hours on 37°C - but is it even possible to produce so many non-specific fragments? More on, should we use different mass of template into in vitro transcription reaction, or separate final dsRNA on PAGE/denaturing agarose gels?
Have you got some idea, which would explain such results, please?
Thanks for your help.
Matej Medla
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Alright then, thank you a lot Athanasios Dalakouras
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Hai. I break the cells containing my expressed protein (r-msAdh1) using non - denaturing lysis buffer. Then I run 10 uL lysate under denaturing polyarylamide gel (SDS-PAGE). But I observed that my protein size is larger than expected (more than 55kD). Expected size is 43kD.
Is it normal? Anyone experience this?
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Maybe you are getting read-through of the stop codon. It occasionally happens. How large would the protein be if it read through the first stop and got translated to the next one?
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I´m planning to perform Northern blot from Urea PAGE, but I am not sure how to do semi-dry transfer. Any recommendation?
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I thought Northern blots were usually a capillary transfer as such...
However, if you are using a semi-dry system then the trick is to cut the gel, membrane, and filter papers to the same size. Otherwise, if the filters are larger then they will contact each other and a bunch of current will be detoured around your gel. Cutting everything the same size focuses the current to the gel and allows for efficient transfer. Another tip is that the membrane and filters should be wet but not soaking, mop up excess liquid otherwise this will also be a current sink and your transfer efficiency will go down.
Here is a good video of a semi-dry transfer of a Western blot
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I shall be grateful if anybody suggests me where to do DGGE at affordable charges in India
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I am also looking for same.
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We are repeatedly troubled with strange Protein bands in PAGE after PCR using Q5 polymerase from NEB. Who has measured the molecular weight of Q5 already and could help us out? Thank you all in advance,
kind regards
Peter
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To clarify, we observe additional bands in PROTEIN gels and would like to verify whether one of These bands is Q5. Maybe anyone has already determined the molecular weight of Q5, so we could rule out that the contamination is due to Q5?
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Can the MOPS running and transfer buffers that go with the older Nupage Bis-Tris gels be used with the Bolt gels? If not, does anyone have the recipe for the Bolt running and transfer buffers?
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I believe that should be helpful
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Hi,
I am facing this problem sometimes with PAGE transfer. After I stained with Poncuaue I saw some white horizontal lines on my membrane which are consistent with my sandwich holes. I can understand the air bubbles but I don't know why these holes came up sometimes. Any suggestions? What is the reason behind this? Thanks in advance.
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I really don't know about that, any advice would be helpful Vikrant Mehta
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I am trying to observe a protein-protein interaction on native protein PAGE (Tris-glycine as a running buffer). The protein of interest interacts with nucleosomes and this interaction was seen as a band shift in native DNA PAGE (Tris Borate EDTA buffer). But, when I ran the same sample on a native protein PAGE, this interaction was not visible as a band shift despite my nucleosomes being intact. I am unable to depict the component (maybe within the gel condition) responsible for the dissociation of this interaction. I am guessing that the interaction strength might be less but not sure what causes its dissociation only in protein PAGE not in DNA PAGE.
Native protein PAGE has resolving layer (pH 8.8) and stacking layer (pH 6.8) made from Tris-Cl, acrylamide, APS, TEMED. The running buffer was Tris-Cl, glycine pH 8.
Native DNA PAGE was made from TBE, acrylamide, APS, TEMED. The running buffer was 1xTBE.
Please provide useful comments or suggestions on this situation.
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Dear Jyoti Sharma, conditions for electrophoresis favor charge neutralization at a given pH. My Regards
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I am performing PAGE using 15% acryl/bisacryl 19:1 gels with 8M urea. After running my samples, I have to dry the gel to expose it to a X-ray film. First I tried keeping it under vacuum at 70 °C for 2 hours, but the gel broke into pieces when I released the vacuum. The next time I tried to dry 2 gels in parallel: one exactly as I described, another one with the same composition but only 5% polyacrylamide. This time I kept them under the vacuum at r.t. for 3 hours. When I released the vacuum, the 5% gel was perfectly dried, however the 15% gel broke into pieces again!
From this, it is clear to me that high % gels are much more difficult to dry. I would really appreciate if someone could give me advice on how to dry this type of gels. Maybe keeping the gel drying overnight under the vacuum?
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I used a similar method where I start drying the gel gradually (RT - 80C) for 2 hours.
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We are working on PAGE (Polyacrylamide Gel Electrophoresis) for resolving the amplified DNA samples of wheat crop. But when we tends to prepare PAGE gel, after its solidification, when we remove the rubber gasket the air bubbles fill the whole plate.
Anyone please tell us how can we prevent air bubbles in it?
Thanks.
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Hello everyone!!
I've had same problem lately.
Do you think it affects running of the samples in gel?
Or should I make a new gel?
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Hi!
At the upper picture there's an old PAGE gel and at the bottom there's one of the latest from our lab. The latest staining seems to be only half way successful. To both we used phenol/cloroform/isoamyl alcohol plus guanidine thiocyanate/silica methods to extract the viral dsRNA and gels were stained using the silver nitrate method. Both gels are 7,5% polyacrylamide.
What could be the problem? Extraction? Electrophoresis? Staining?
Thank you!
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Running time is same for both the gels as we can observe a fade band layer in 2nd gel. Usually, silver nitrate solution is not effective if it is used 3 times. Prepare fresh solution and try again.
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I have seen a number of papers by Kornberg and others using PAGE (Polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis) to separate small (<5 nm) gold nanoparticles by mass. What I am wondering is if there is a way to retrieve the separated particles after PAGE. For example, can you take a poly-disperse mixture of particles, separate them through PAGE, then dissolve the PAGE around just the particles of mass you desire for further analysis.
For reference, the particles I am interested in are very small gold nanoparticles with a thiolate ligand layer, with COOH groups on the ligands providing a net charge for the particles.
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You can isolate gold nanoparticles in a centrifuge. The separation depends on the viscosity of the medium and the density of the nanoparticles. The density of gold is very high, and you need to dilute the gel (medium) with water to reduce viscosity.
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Hi,
I have a problem when running polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis (5%) in 1 X TBE buffer with PCR product (starting material 10ng cDNA, 40 amplification cycles). I always got the U shaping band. However, when ran the same PCR product (technical repeat) on the agarose gel (2%) in 1 X TAE buffer, the bands looked fine. The staining protocol for agarose gel and polyacrylamide gel is the same, with GelRed.
Does anyone have the same experience?
Thanks!
Yao
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Add less sample or increase your run time (Not too much)
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Dear All,
I am trying to standardize Acetic acid/ Urea PAGE electrophoresis for protamine separation. I am able to form stacking and resolving gel. But i am not able to detect any protein on the gel. Also, according to the protocol, it should be run in the reverse polarity. But when i am running the gel sample dye is not entering in the gel.
Please, anybody, suggest the changes.
Thank you in advance...!!
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Dear all,
Douglas Pryor Easton
David Farringdon Spencer
Thank you for the valuable suggestion i have run the gel by modifying according to your suggestions. The picture is attached below.
Running is fine, the current is dropping till 15mA and proteins are separating.
But this gel I have run without tracking dye.
So can you please suggest which tracking dye will be suitable for protamines?
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And I also have paraffine mineral oil for wood) We can buy it later - in 3-4 months but I need it right now( And I am learning IEG and PAGE using Youtube and google so I'm sorry for this stupid question.
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Thick paraffine is a laxative, a solvent for pharmaceuticals and as component of creams against diaper rash. So it should not be difficult to get.
The whole idea is that the oil doesn't mix with the IEF gel, so it shouldn't exert any influence other than to prevent evaporation of water.
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Hi, everyone, I meet a problem that I need to run DNA in PAGE gel and limit by next experiment step I can't use TBE as buffer
Can I use TAE buffer instead of TBE?
Is there other method to make PAGE gel to run dsDNA?(low weight , DNA around 50-75bp)
thanks for your reading!
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Thanks for your kind reply!@David Farringdon Spencer
I have try to run the TAE-PGAE gel in the ice box and keep the temperature low
the low weight band is clear
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Formamide is necessary to stabilize the single strands of RNA, and is necessary to add in case of rotavirus as i am unable to get bands in PAGE and even i have tried the AGE, i am unable to find a protocol in any research publication that has Full description of the quantities of formamide and other reagents to add in the PAGE procedure. Kindly help.
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Good day,
I'm sending you the next paper via private message: Denaturing RNA electrophoresis in TAE agarose gels. Hopefully you'd be able to adapt it to your needs. I also recommend you to be aware of using "rough" methods to grind the samples from where you are trying to isolate the RNA. For the latter, sonicator is almost forbidden. Furthermore, try to use RNAlater to preserve your samples, and RNaseZAP or sodium hypochlorite to clean the surface and equipment you are using to process the tissue.
Good luck
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i want to about the role of these chemicals and why the presence of disulfide makes the environment in the cytoplasm reducing and how
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Basically the reducing agents such as mercaptoethanol or dithrietol tend to break sulfhydryl bonds in the globular proteins to convert to peptides. So native PAGE provides information about original protein structure and SDS PAGE under reducing and denaturing conditions gives information about subunit structure of the same protein.
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I used Native PAGE to examine the DNA self-assembling nanostructures after annealing. I run my PAGE in a ice bath and 1X TAE was used as buffered system. The gel had been pre-electrophoresised when the samples were added. The gel was stained by EtBr solution after electrophoresis. However, obvious smears emerged in each lane (as shown in the attachment). How can I deal with the smears? Someone have told me that it was normal to have smears on Native PAGE.
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It's a fairly common phenomenon. Native gels are never going to look as neat as denaturing gels. Also, your bands don't look that smeary compared to an average native gel published in literature.
However, when running native gels with DNA-containing samples, I always add heparin (both to the gel itself and to my samples) to avoid non-specific interactions that DNA might have with other components of the sample or the matrix of the gel itself. I usually use 10 micrograms per mililiter. This could improve your gel.
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Hi gel electrophoresis experts,
I have attached a Ponceau-stained nitrocellulose membrane transferred from a 4%-12% Bis-tris gel with samples that were electrophoresed with a 1x MOPS buffer, 120V constant voltage for 3 hours, with refrigeration. The weak bands on the right look ok, but why are the stronger bands on the left wavy and in one case, the band is narrowed?
Thanks, Mel
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Dear Melville,
It could be due to three reasons; 1.improper voltage disrubution 2. too much protein loading in the wells 3. improper polymerization.
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Can anyone tell me the usual running conditions (Voltage or power?) for running Urea- PAGE gels?
Should the whole gel running apparatus be used in cold room (6deg) or room temperature? I will be running 8% or 10% Urea PAGE gels and this would be my first time to run such gels.
What voltage of wattage should be used to pre-run the gel and for how long?
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I dont have any Idea
Sorry
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Nowadays, famous companies like Merck and Thermo provide different ladders for native-PAGE analysis. However, basic biochemistry tells us that the movement of proteins on the native-PAGE is not only based on the molecular weight but also the PI and shape of proteins, which make them debatable products. Since many research article, even in leading journals like nature, use these products, which encourage others, it is important to discuss if the current native-PAGE ladders are reliable or misleading.
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Under native conditions, separation of proteins depends on many factors including size, shape, and native charge. Molecular weight markers will only show molecular weights, whereas proteins may oligomerize or have different shapes that would change their migration in a native PAGE environment. In such cases, the ladder isn't incredibly useful. You might use several internal standards/controls based upon what questions you're hoping to answer with your native PAGE analysis. Some good standard proteins are albumin from bovine serum (or bovine serum albumin), egg albumin, with well defined known tertiary and/or quaternary structures.
Native PAGE is one of the most powerful techniques for studying the composition and structure of native proteins, since both the conformation and biological activity of proteins remain intact during this technique. In Native PAGE proteins are prepared in a non-reducing and non-denaturing sample buffer (neither SDS nor BME in the sample buffer and in the gel), which maintains both the proteins’ secondary structure and native charge density, so this technique can could be used, for example, to know the aggregation state of a protein/ activity. Because no denaturants are used in native PAGE, subunit interactions within a multimeric protein are generally retained and information can be gained about the quaternary structure. In addition, some proteins retain their enzymatic activity (function) following separation by native PAGE. Thus, this technique may be used for preparation of purified, active proteins.
If we really want to know the molecular weight of our protein, then we need to run SDS-PAGE. In this technique, we will have both information about the number of peptides that constitute our protein and also the molecular weight.
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PCR on a DNAzyme for quantification but ended up with mixed negative and positive amplifications. PAGE gel showed proper amplification but why the weird signal?
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I agree. Seems you starting amount is way too much. The software assumes that the fluorescence in cycles 3-15 (that's adjustable, but these are the conventional defaults) is background, and this is subtracted from the amplification curve.
It's a bit interesting that the three top curves were obviousely not background corrected. Maybe the software recognized a too-big slope during these early cycles and did not (or "fail to") correct these curves. However, try again with diluted samples (I suggest 1:10000 to 1:100000, maybe even more; this should shift the Ct by about +15 cycles).
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Dear All,
I have been conducting DNase I footprinting lately, using fluorescence(6FAM)-labelled template.
Would there be a recommended primer purification method for the 6FAM-labelled primers?
The available options are HAP, PAGE, and HPLC. My lab mates and I have been opting for HPLC, but that requires overseas production and takes over a week. So I was hopeful that the other two (HAP or PAGE) might work as well, which would allow me to cut down on the time and the costs.
If anyone has any experience in this and shares their knowledge, it would be very much appreciated. Thank you so much!
Sincerely,
Eun Jung
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Dear Abdelkrim,
Thank you! Hope you have a great day.
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Every time I make a PAGE gel, the upper stack slightly leaks out of the sides of the cassette and forms bubbles which make the outer two wells completely unusable (see attached image). I've tried making it in the rubber gasket and out of it, as well as with binder clips securing the top, but nothing seems to help it. This is the recipe I've been using: 2 mL 4X upper buffer, 1 mL 30% acrylamide, 5 mL water, 50 uL dye, 50 uL APS and 50 uL TEMED.
Any experience or thoughts on how to fix this?
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In addition, it might help to use two binder clips on each side.
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Hello everyone and thank for your wisdom,
I am trying to detects some plant siRNA by northern blot.
I didn't succeed yet, but I noticed that after dying the gels with EtBr, the migration of my total RNAs is really weird. The migration fronts are getting narrow and moving to the wrong place as if they were being drawn to each others.
do you have any idea of what is happening?
here are some of the main points :
- i use a denaturing polyacrylamide 15% gel (Urea 7Mol. , Polyacr 19:1) and TBE 0,5X as runnig buffer.
- I tried to run my gels either at 80 Volts or at 40V but it didn't changed anything.
- I didn't forget to wash the gel wells with a pipet before loading the samples , to remove the urea deposit .
- The samples loaded are total plant RNA. They were first extracted, dissolved in TE buffer and stored at -20°C one week . They were then mixed in equal volume with a loading buffer containing some formaldehyde , glycerol, and mainly formamide at 50%.
what do you think?
thank you for your time, your advices or your questions
!
and sorry for my bad english, i'm french :P
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check your RNA concentration on gene calculator. Please treat your RNA with DNase and the load different dilution of your samples.
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PAGE is used for various samples. For biochemists, SDS-PAGE is used to separate proteins. My question is about the concentration of PAGE. What is threshold concentration of acrylamide for polymerization?
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Engelbert Buxbaum Thank you a lot. We use PAGE to separate metal nanoparticles (nanocluster).
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I am currently optimizing the conjugation of a DNA oligo sequence to a DBCO activated antibody and am looking for a method which could allow me to simultaneously visualize the amount of DNA which has bound to the antibody. Currently, I am able to determine the binding of the DNA to the Ab by visualizing a band shift following coomassie staining on a native PAGE gel. I have also tried spraying the gel with SyBr Gold prior to fixing the gel for coomassie staining in the hopes of doing an overlay, but this hasn't worked! I know that there is a portion of DNA bound to my Ab as I am able to pull the Ab out of solution and when incubating this conjugate with a restriction enzyme and running this on a PAGE gel I can see the DNA. I am wondering if anybody knows of a way that will allow me to visualize the DNA bound to the Ab without having to do the digest as I would like to run downstream experiments with the conjugate?
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you can also use southern (or northern)-western blotting.
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I have cloned HBV small surface protein in pRSET B expression vector and tried to express it in the E.coli BL21DE3 cells with 1mM iptg conc at 37 deg for 5 hours. After induction i took 3 to 4 ml of culture for from total of 50 ml and centrifuged it at 6000 rpm in microcentrifuge at room temp. Then the pellet from this 3 ml culture was dissolved in 1X Laemmelli buffer(sds gel loading dye). Pellet was mixed by vigourous vortexing and boiled at 100 deg for 10 minutes. then it was centrifuged again at the same rpm and the supernatant(20 ul) was loaded on sds PAGE but still i could not get any expression. My protein of interest is a membrane which has 4 transmembrane domains and has 55 percent hydrophobic amino acids in it. what could be the for no expression. which steps should i follow to express membrane protein. should i run pellet also?
Idont want to transmembrane domains as i need the whole protein.
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pleease help me in matlab code for solving the poisson quation in matlab using forth order compact scheme
CHAPMAN & HALL/CRC APPLIED MATHEMATICS
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Yi-Tung Chen
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Youngstown State University
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Thanku very much sir for your valuable suggestions
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We would like to get DNA oligos out of a PAGE gel. Gel cutout fragments would be put into a standard dialysing cellulose tubing (for example 3.5K MWCO) with elution buffer and the filled dialysing tubing is set into a horizontal electrophoretic apparatus so that the oligos stay trapped inside the tubing in the buffer when current is running. Does anyone have experience with such a setup?
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During the UREA PAGE prerun at 80V the 0.5M TBE buffer can not reach the required temperature of 60C ? What shall I do ? I have waited more than 1h for the prerun to reach the temperature but it is not working. I am using the BIORAD MINI PROETAN tetra system.
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Paul Rutland I am running 20% urea PAGE in 05.x TBE pH 8.
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I am trying to analyse proteins qualitatively using sds page laemmli method. Where in this particular case I am using 15% separating gel and 5% resolving gel. The sample loading buffer is as 0.055 M Tris-HCl, pH 6.8, 2 % (wt/vol) SDS, 20 % (vol/vol) glycerol, 4.3 % (vol/vol) β-mercaptoethanol, 0.0025 % (wt/vol) bromophenol blue G-250. On constant voltage setting of 80 volts till dye crosses separating gel (approx 50 min) and then 140 volts till it reaches bottom (approx 2.20 hrs). Due to smile effect and improper resolution of lower marker proteins of ladder, and also broad bands on my unknown sample on my last couple of runs at 12%, I decided to increase gel percentage to 15% and lower the temprature by keeping reservoir tank in an insulated box by adding plenty of ice+water+salt (salt to avoid melting of ice) to submerge 80% of box so as that electrical contacts and top 2 cm of reservoir tank does not comes in contact of the water or ice.
My thoughts regarding this bizarre effects are;
1. If we look up closely on the top of the image their I can find some portion of gel itself wavy, leading to improper differentiating line between separating and loading gel.
2. The temp for run was too low. may be around 0-4C since ice barely melted (not more than 20%). As SDS starts precipitating at lower temperatures below 4C.
3. The vertical dragging of protein marker in extreme last lanes may be due to the air present during polymerisation of separating gel which lead in filling of some of stacking gel therefore lead to it.
4. Do I need to lower the gel% or protein concentration?
Pls note: Ignore the background stain, I stopped destaining as soon as these bizzare bands were visible.
Looking for some explanations along with your suggestions and comments.
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Thank you for the detailed information Kartikey Chaturvedi . The Buffers look fine
The wells do look too rounded and not straight edged Comb shaped at the bottom of the well so I think that you are right about polymerisation. Hopefully you use fresh APS evry couple of days and if so perhaps waiting a bit longer for full polymerisation might help as Jasim Al-Saadi suggests. One other thing is that PAG gels leak non polymerised acrylamide into the wells so it is very important to wash this out of the loading positions with buffer so that the sample loads on top of the gel and not on top of the excluded liquid and there is a clean electrical contact between sample and gel.
Salt iced water does get very cold ( down to -20c) but at 0.1% I do not think that it will precipitate but then I have never tried that method of cooling. My guess is that the local heating effect of the current in the gel would stop this happening
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Hey guys,
my last couple of Western Blots looked really strange. It seems like the sample goes into the gel pocket more in the middle than at the edge of the lane. when I looked at the transfer using a Ponceau S Staining, the staining was much stronger again at the edges of the lane than in the middle.
I am using a 10% Bolt Bis-Tris gel, precast, from Thermo Fisher. I usually let the gel run at 100 V for about 40 to 60 minutes in MES or MOPS buffer.
I really have no idea what could be the cause for this and if anyone has an idea, I would be really thankful!
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Hello, seems problem with power supply.
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I extracted total RNA from bacteria after exposure to lysozyme for 30 minutes (these bacteria are naturally resistant to lysozyme). The 23S/16S rRNA ratio > 2. However, these samples look degraded when I ran polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis (see picture below). What is the reason? Is it a degradation? Is there another explanation?
Thank you for your answer.
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1-2ug should be fine.
Denature your RNA before loading (use standard 6x DNA loading buffer, your RNA and then make up the rest of the volume with formamide: aim for 60-75% formamide, final). Heat this to 65 degrees for 5 mins, then cool rapidly on ice, load onto gel.
This will make your bands much crisper, and show you more clearly whether you have any degradation (though again, if RNA is degraded, you usually see basically nothing, or a broad smear at low molecular weight).
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Hi,
I want to carry out western blotting for a 233 kDa protein. I was told to use a tris-acetate gel due to the size of the protein. However, I was wandering would I be able to detect the protein if I use a bis-tris gel? As anyone tried this before? If so, what was your experience like?
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Via using a low concentrated SDS gel (maybe of 8-10% or lower, comercially available) or via using a gradient gel with varying region of different density/concentration.
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I am planning on doing Electrophoretic Mobility Shift Assay (EMSA), or gel shift assay, to check the binding of a purified protein to different DNA templates.
Based on a publication that have done the experiment with a very similar protein, I could do the test in a 10% Tris-glycine polyacrylamide gel. However, according to my research, Tris-glycine gels are for protein separation and not DNA. Non-denaturing TBE gels seem to be more appropriate for DNA separation.
My question is, can you use a tris-glycine gel for visualization of DNA ? (I will post-stain the gel with GelRed).
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I have always used TBE or tris acetate EDTA for EMSA, but I would not hesitate to use TGE: I see no reason for it not working, provided that the gel itself (and the buffer, of course) does not contain SDS.
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Assume you have a protein heterodimer bound by a single disulphide linkage( monomers sizes 100kDa and 75kDa). How many bands will be observed in a) native PAGE b) Denaturing PAGE? What will be the relative position of bands in each technique?
P.S.: Denaturant used is Urea.
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a/ One band (provided the heterodimer assumes one conformation that migrates as one band). If you add a reducing agent, it will migrate as two bands (or more if more than one conformation for each monomer is possible).
b/ What is "native denaturing" PAGE? Typically, it is either "native" of "denaturing" but not "native denaturing". If it is a denaturing PAGE with UREA without reducing agent(s), you would see one band (to see two bands you need to add a reducing agent, e. g. DTT, b-mercaptoEtOH).