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Hi,
Recently did a 2D electrophoresis, using IEF and SDS-Page on mouse muscle protein.
I will attach a picture of our results but they seem somewhat hard to decipher.
Any help would be appreciated.
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in general you get not much protein spots, which may a result of non-adequate transfer. Moreover, a smear may be a result of unwantd components in your sample, such as ethanol or ionized molecules, sugars etc.
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I have incubated my protein with thrombin, and it has successfully cleaved the tag from my protein. I was thinking that the thrombin should have show in the SDS-PAGE as well, but I didn't see any band for it. I am so curious about the reason, pleaseshare your thoughts with me! =D Thank you!
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Bovine thrombin from Sigma is reported to have a specific activity of >1800 U/mg. Let's suppose your thrombin has a specific activity of 2000 U/mg. If you added 1 U/µl (=1000U/ml), then your sample would have been 0.5 mg/ml in thrombin. If your gel lane included 10 µl of protein sample, then it would have had 5 µg of thrombin. This could easily be detected by Coomassie Blue staining. Try doing this sort of calculation on the sample you ran on the gel to see ho much thrombin was in the lane.
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I am trying to solubalize the recombinant protein from inclusion bodies. The protocal I follwed is as follows,
1. After conferming the expression of recombinant protein in the form of IB through SDS-PAGE, I lysed the Bl21De3 cells in lysis buffer and collected the IB in form of pellet.
2. The pelet was resuspended in ST buffer ( 50mM Tris, 300mM Nacl, 5mM ZnCl2, 10mM beta-mercaptoethanol) supplemented with 10% sarkosyl.
3. Incubated the IB for overnight at 10oC with continuous shaking.
4. Next day, centrufuged the contents at 20000 rpm for 10 min and collected the supernatant. The supernatant was used for SDS-PAGE analysis.
The problem I am facing is, after treating the IB with sarkosyl also, there is no much improvement in protein solubalization. What will be the possible reason for this? Is there any alternative available to increase the IB solubility?
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Inclusion bodies can usually be dissolved in 6-8M urea or 6 M guanidine HCl. The dissolved protein will be denatured (unfolded). There are techniques for refolding the protein, but the better solution, if it can be achieved, is to find a way to express the protein in a soluble form instead of inclusion bodies.
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I've had this issue on and off for a while now, and it's really starting to get on my nerves.
For background:
I don't think there is a problem with my gel recipe or running protocol - everyone else in the lab does the same and they usually get good band resolution. 10% Acrylamide resolving gel, plenty of stacking, fresh 10% APS made before casting. I put a layer of butanol on top of the resolving to even it out and remove it after complete polymerization - usually 1 to 1.5 hours. Maybe the alcohol is drying out the top of the resolving??
30 ug protein samples are denatured at 95 C for 5-10 min in fresh loading buffer that I made. Gels are run at 15 mA through the stacking (50-90 V) and 25 mA through the resolving (120- 200+ V). Any suggestions or tips are appreciated. I've attached a picture of a recent membrane (pvdf) with this annoying problem.
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Maybe, you should avoid using butanol (polarity/non-polarity effects may interefere with your setting). If you want to use a separation solution for polymerization (which is not necessary) you can also use water which should heve no negative effects.
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We produced mAbs at my lab (classical 1975 hybridoma tech). One of my clones produced one mAb that was promising. When we constructed it, we used subtractive immunization, which consists of immunizing the mice with a non-tumoral cell line, then giving them a chemotherapy agent following 24h and 48h in order to eliminate proliferating B cells (triggered by exposition to non-tumoral cells). Then, we perform, at the same mouse, a series of immunizations with tumoral cells (same tissue-line cell). After purification we did the SDS page gel with the purified mAb as the sample. Strong IgG bands were easily spotted (150kda, 55kda and 22 kda). This mAb, when used in blotting, diluted at 1:1000 gave us the attached figure. First lane is a non-tumoral cell lysate (RWPE-1), second lane is the tumoral cell lysate PC3 (used as immunogen to produce the mAb) and third lane is another tomoral cell lysate, LNCAP. Here is how I am interpreting it: i) at the first lane, as expected, there is only low non-specific binding. At the other lanes, we have a more strong band (which I suppose is the protein my mAb recognize) but also a lot of other bands. I was expecting to see only one band, because my mAb is trully monoclonal. What am I missing here? Am I interpreting this correctly? Are these bands only a result of poor standardization of my blott? Should I do another blott, with both the primary and secondary antibodies more diluted? Thanks a lot!
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Thank you all for ur kind suggestions. I will get to work and later on will post the new blotting here.
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- In mammals, about 95% of the milk proteins are made up of casein and whey proteins. Bovine milk is a significant source of protein in several parts of the world such as Asia, Africa and Europe.
- The major portion (80%) (Haug, Høstmark & Harstad, 2007) of bovine milk protein is designated by a casein (CN) group encoded by four tightly linked genes: αs1-CN (CSN1S1), β-CN (CSN2), αs2-CN (CSN1S2) and κ-CN (CSN3), located within a 250 kb piece of bovine autosome 6 (Caroli, Chessa & Erhardt, 2009).
- There were differences in milk composition between the breeds (Lôbo et al., 2017). Protein variants have their use in the study of origin and evolution of breeds of goats. These markers have proved to be useful for parentage determination and population analysis (Groselande et al., 1990).
- The negative charges on SDS destroy most of the composite structure of proteins, and are strongly attracted toward an anode (positively-charged electrode) in an electric area (Muayad, 2017).
- Protein separation by SDS-PAGE can be applied to evaluation relative molecular mass, to determine the relative abundance of major proteins in a sample, and to define the distribution of proteins among fractions. The purity of protein samples can be estimated and the progress of a fractionation or purification procedure can be followed. Various staining methods can be used to find out rare proteins and to learn something about their biochemical properties (David, 2012).
How’s your experience about SDS?
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I have cloned a gene in Suffle T7 express strain using pET28a vector for expression and in vitro studies. After Ni-NTA column purification of this His Tagged protein, I am getting multiple bands in SDS-PAGE gel instead of one.
What could be possible reasons?
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Unless the level of expression of your protein is very high, it is usually not possible to purify it to homogeneity solely by using IMAC. You should add a second chromatography step, such as gel filtration or ion exchange to improve the purity.
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I have a question ??
Can I measure the concentration of a protein by depending on the size of its band in the SDS-PAGE gel ??
thank you
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The answer is yes. It will depend a little bit of how much accuracy you want. If you need only a estimation, you can work by comparison and densitometry to give you a reasonable number. You can use ImageJ software for free to evaluate it.
You will run a new gel including a mass control of the same or similar protein molecular size but with a known amount (mg/mL) and then compare them by densitometry.
Hope it helps you.
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Hi. I am trying to detect a recombinant arginine-rich 10KD peptide with high positive net charge using SDS-PAGE. on the tris-glycine SDS-PAGE with 15% and 17% resolving gels and 5% stacking gel i did not observe any band related to the peptide. The peptide has a His6 tag. Could any one please guide me on this issue??
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In addition to using a suitable electrophoresis system, you can also try to stain with RuBPS, which specifically binds to positive amino acids including Arg (doi:10.1007/978-1-4939-8745-0_11). The synthesis of this dye is cheap and simple, but it is also available from Sigma (albeit not cheaply).
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I used to prepare 10% tissue homogenate by weighing the tissue in RIPA with protease and phosphatase inhibitor. After homogenization I used to centrifuge it for 20min at 13000rpm in 4 degree. Protein estimation was done by bradford method. I used o load 40ug of protein. After transfer the ponsue stain gives a nice band picture. But developing time I used to not get any band. Some time I used to get bands but some time not. Can any one please help me?
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Hi Saswat,
As you mentioned in you question it looks like your transfer was all right. When a particular western does not give signal for target protein there can be different things to trouble shoot. I would look for :
1) Probe for Actin/GAPDH/ or any of the equal loading control to see there is certainly not problem with western / transfer/ antibody incubation/washing steps.
2) if i am able to equal loading control then I can say the western is okay. Now I would check the data sheet that comes with antibody or the webpage for references and find out what kind of tissue or cell people have been used. ( expression of proteins are variable in tissues and cells, so might be your protein of interest is expressed in less amount).
3) for less expressed protein, I use Dura for developing instead of ECL.
4) higher molecular weight protein takes longer time to transfer and vice versa.
Hope you find this helpful.
Good luck
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Hi all,
I was wondering whether it's possible to extract proteins from C. elegans only by adding sample buffer (such as
4X Bolt™ LDS Sample Buffer) + reducing reagent, and incubation at 70oC (or 95oC) for 10 min? Has anyone ever tried this...?
Thanks!
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Exactly it is wonderful..
I'm eagerly waiting to see the results.
Best
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Hello all!
I am doing SDS-PAGE for my protein of predicted size of 53.5kda bt unexpectedly I am getting bands of around 60kda.. I have done this 3-4 times and Everytime the required band is about 60kda in induced samples.. I have sequenced my cDNA clone also and it is showing right sequence.
suggestion will be highly appreciated..
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Purified proteins generally show anomalous migration. I had experienced this with one of my protein of interest. Protein migration in the SDS-PAGE is affected by the PI of the protein. In other cases, the anomalous migration becomes normal upon treatment of whole cell lysates with DNAase (1 ug/ml) plus RNase (0.2 ug/mL) for 30 minutes followed by heat denaturation at 95 degrees for at least 20 minutes. Hope it will help. gud luc
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Sometimes when i run my samples, the dye becomes more diffuse and spreads out more when it enters the resolving gel, while other times it is much narrower and darker...Does it indicate anything, regarding the content of protein in the sample?
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Are you sure this isn't a result of inconsistencies in the gel itself? If you pour your own gels (rather than buy them pre-made from a company), you can create batch-to-batch variability if you're not careful. I've found this to be a big reason for the occasional broad "smeared" bands. The dye front itself generally shouldn't look too different between gels. Here are a couple links I've found useful in the past which can help in troubleshooting SDS PAGE:
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I have purified a EGFP-His tagged protein which was there in pET15b vector using Ni-NTA column. The concentration obtained was way too high around 5mg/ml. Before the running the SDS-PAGE the sample was boiled for 10 min. But, on SDS-PAGE I have obtained the the molecular weight of 60 kDa instead of 30 kDa which is the molecular weight of EGFP.
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Hi Puneeta,
First, you need to use other methods to determine whether this is your target protein. For example, if there is a TEV cutting site between your protein and the His tag, you can compare the band size of the protein by enzyme digestion. If the contamination is excluded, you can determine whether the protein is a dimer by observing the peak position of the gel filtration and combining it with the SDS-PAGE gel. In general, SDS-PAGE denatures the protein, so multimeric proteins are presented as monomers in SDS-PAGE, otherwise, it may be that the disulfide bonds inside the protein are covalently linked, and it is suggested to increase the concentration of DDT in the buffer.
Good luck!
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I have purified a monomeric EGFP- His protein with a molecular weight of 30 kDa. But, instead of 30 kDa I am getting a thick band of 60 kDa in SDS-PAGE reducing gel. what is the possible reason for that?
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Kannan Balakrishnan
, western confirmation is not required as the protein concentration is too high that the it appears green while eluted in the elution buffer and also after reading the literature I have got to know that it is very much possible to obtain a dimer in SDS-PAGE reducing gel if the interaction is high. It is specially in the case if the proteins are membrane raft proteins.
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I have purified a monoclonal antibody from a hybridoma solution, and when I runn it on an SDS-PAGE gel I get 2 bands for the light chain. I know that an antibody is 150 KDa and when we boil it in the presence of DTT and run it on an SDS-PAGE gel we should get 2 bands, one for the heavy chain at 50 KDa and the other one for the light chain at 25 KDa (An antibody consists of 2 heavy chains and 2 light chains).
Though we can get 2 bands for the heavy chain (as it can get glycosylated), what is confusing me now is that I am getting 2 bands for the light chain (the difference between the bands is not more than 2-3 KDa).
Can the light chain of the antibody be glycosylated? Or is the antibody getting degraded (it should not as I store in NaN3 and I purified it at a couple of months ago).
Can anyone please help me try to find the reason for getting 2 bands for the light chain of the antibody on the gel?
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Dear Muthu
I would rather suggest to use 100 mM DTT (final conc.) in your loading buffer. Well use of BME is not a wise choice however you may increase BME %.
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Histone H3 and H4 were connected with 1 or 2 biotin through a short linker. And then they were stained to a dye through a streptavidin.
Just after the biotinylation, the standard SDS-PAGE gel cannot give desired bands at around 20 kDa.
- The band of biotinylized H3 is slightly more clear than the band of H4, but much lighter than the band of Histone without biotinylation.
- In the image of stained gel, stronger signal can be found in the top wells. So I assume it is aggregation of biotinylized hitone.
Any comment is welcomed!!!
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if it is aggregation via hydrophobic interaction, try linking to a modified biotin with a polyethylene glycol chain instead, this will increase polarity and improve solubility
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i am doing immunoprecipitation with flag pull down experiment. And in control pull down with NRS sentacruz. I have obtained smear type region in between heavy and light chain in both IP as well as control lane on silver staining after SDS-PAGE run. Above heavy chain no prolem is there. Can anyone suggest me how can i clear that region in IgG lane and get a clear bands in the IP lane ?
specifications are:-
20 MIN blocking of sepharose A with BSA.
3 TIMES 5 mins wash etc.
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I agree with Avinash Marwal answer for this question
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I am facing a problem on loading the aqueous plant extract on SDS PAGE, every thing was done as per the protocol. ON the same the methanol extract got loaded , but the aqueous extract spills out of the well
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I do not know about the extraction method
You should talk to the chemist
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I'm working on purification of acetyl xylan esterase, I collected active fractions and wanted to confirm it's molecular weight by zymography, I am not getting single bands on SDS-PAGE by silver staining, among all multiple bands I want to confirm AXE band.
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I agree change the buffer solution that used
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I have so many protocols about preparing loading buffer for BN-SDS PAGE and i could not choose the indicated for my experiments.
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Sample buffer for Blue Native PAGE. Supplied as 2x concentrate.
1. Contains 1M 6-aminocaproic acid, 2. 100 mM BisTris-HCl (pH 7.0)
3. 100 mM NaCl,
4. 20 % glycerol,
5. 0.1 % Blue G.
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The protein I want to express is an intracellular protein (non-secreted). I'm using Baculovirus/insect cells expression system. After mani times, I don't find any expression of my protein. I run a small-scale (2 ml) and 50 ml, I see some bands in SDS-PAGE and W.B., but my corresponding protein band is not thick. I checked from the cloning to the transformation; everything is alright.
If anyone can help me to express my non-secreted protein, I will be very thankful.
Thank you.
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I have been struggling with the purification of a GFP-tagged peptide from E.coli. It seems that the peptide degrades and left GFP alone once the cell is lysed.
Looking at the sequence there exist a DG motif which people point to hydrolysis, approx equal to the degradation site. However, since the GFP-peptide is intact in whole cell and becomes GFP after lysis (sonication) within 15-30 min 4 deg celcius, it really seems too fast for a hydrolysis reaction in standard buffer (PBS / Tris pH 7-8). I thus wonder if the boiling in SDS buffer alters the integrity of my construct.
Any idea if I can run my SDS-PAGE in a less hydrolyzing condition?
cheers
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Hydrolysis is not performed by sds-page. Reduction happens if using dithiotheitol or mercaptoethanol. If you are concerned about boiling the sample, do not do it; 15 min at 37C is enough for denaturation. Are you using protease inhibitor during lysis and subsequently?
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I want to express and purify a protein of bacteria (approximately 121 kDa) using pGEX 4T-1, E. coli BL 21 and Glutathione Sepharose 4B. I have tried out with 0.1, 0.5 mM IPTG, at 30 deg C for 4 hrs. However, I do not see any fusion protein expression on the SDS-PAGE gel. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this? I would like to attach my protocol (Screening pGEX recombinants for tagged protein expression) and results of SDS-PAGE gel in the attached file.
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Hi An,
First of all I would recommend you to check if your protein of interest is expressed at all. Do a western blot with anti-GST antibody and check IPTG controls, suspension, supernatant and pellet with that. To be safe you can check your wash and elution fractions too. If you obtain a band at about 150 kDa your protein is expressed but probably cut through protease. If not, you have a problem with the expression. You have definitley expressed GST. I can highly recommend the GST-resins from Cube-Biotech. I always got a high protein yield with them (https://cube-biotech.com/products/purification-resins/gst-affinity-resins/#).
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Recently, I get streaking bands of the pure protein I study. I phosphorylate the protein with a modified ATP then I "click" a fluorophore. So the samples loaded contain click reagents. I add 4X loading buffer and then I fill the wells. I do not heat the sample otherwise the phosphate falls off. I load 15 uL of sample corresponding to 0.4 ug. I pour my own gels. The pH of the stacking and resolving buffer are fine. I have attached two examples. The gels were made simultaneously but ran on two different days. Would you have any suggestions for stopping this problem? Thank you Adeline
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Thank you for your answer Mohammed.
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I'm trying to use IAC to purify a protein using an old prepacked NHS column with a potent antibody, that was coupled 2-3 years ago, and getting bad yields (Wide peak over 4 mL at 2 mAU max, protein not visible on a SDS PAGE gel, but shows up on a western blot when probed with the same antibody). I'm wondering if the antibody or column degraded etc. over time, as it was stored in PBS+azide at 4C for two whole years. (We elute with pH2.5 buffer if that makes any difference).
I have the chromatograms from when the column was fresh, and they look relatively good, with a decent area-under-the curve. But this time, it's dropped. Image is attached. I know columns last forever, but I'm just wondering how long a coupled column is good for.
Any good advice is welcomed. Thank you in advance.
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That does seem like a long time to use an immunoaffinity column. The antibody may have become degraded, or denatured, or leached off the resin. If possible, prepare a fresh column.
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If,suppose my interaction partner trying to form complex with my bait protein,is there is a possiblity to see one thick band(Addition of MW of 2 protein),or two seperate bands?If the answer is 2 seperate bands,then,How can i say these proteins are tend to form complexes?
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SDS PAGE gels are designed to denature proteins and coat them with SDS to give them a fixed charge to mass ratio, so they run according to their size only. You will never see a single band on SDS PAGE when you run out a complex, as all the proteins will separate according to size. Pull downs works as follows: GST-bait captures proteins under native conditions, the complex is washed, then denatured and run on SDS page. Your interacting partners are then detected by western blotting with antibodies, or if using only purified recombinant proteins you can stain the gel with commassie blue. You will see your GST-bait and any partners running at thier appropriate sizes. To determine specificity, use GST only as a negative control, or some other bait, to show that your partners only pull down with one bait and not another.
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Recently I am trying to purify a protein having molecular weight 57 KDa. During dialysis, I have used 15 mM HEPES-KOH (pH 7.5) for 16 hours and then 50 mM HEPES-KOH (pH 7.5) for 3 hours. I have maintained low temperature (40C) from the beginning of purification to the end of dialysis and I also have used protease inhibitor before cell lysis. Could you please tell me what is(are) the reason of this degradation in lane 3 and how can I overcome this problem.
N. B. In SDS-PAGE, lane 1 is collected binding wash buffer II, lane 2 is collected Elute buffer before dialysis and lane 3 is Elute buffer after dialysis.
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Hello, maybe you could try a desalting column instead of dialysis which provide a fast, simple way to purify proteins away from salts and small molecules.
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The picture demonstrates that each wells is filling by 50 μl of sample enzyme and loading buffer. the numbers in this image represent the amount of sample enzyme; One Well, is loading buffer control (Right side of the image). The question is that the enzyme which mentioned above can't enter to separating gel. Anybody can help me to realize that what should I do to solve this problem?
The light zones on gel exhibit amylase activity and as it is observable that enzyme still located in well and also in the beginning of resolving gel. Please notice that we performed SDS-PAGE on non-reducing conditions.
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Hello, reduce gel concentration.
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I will try tricine gels and gradient gels. Is there any other advice?
Thanks a lot
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Hello, see attached!
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I am using the "ImageJ" software in order to quantify the protein bands on the SDS-PAGE, but I'm not sure it's the best software for this purpose. Does anyone have the experience of using other software to do this? Is there any professional software for SDS-PAGE densitometry?
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Usually, the imaging instrument comes with software for densitometry. I have used the Molecular Dynamics software and the Azure Biosystems software. They are pretty similar in all the important respects.
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Initial transfer performed overnight (16hr) at 30V failed because small and mid sized proteins (smaller than 100kDa) transferred right through the membrane (as evident from Ponceau staining of the blot and Coomassie staining of the gel). Transfer buffer used was Bjerrum Schafer-Nielsen buffer (48 mM Tris, 39 mM glycine, pH 9.2, containing 20% methanol) containing 0.1% SDS. Apparatus used is BioRad Mini-Transblot (tank/wet transfer method). The electrophoresed gel, membrane and filter pads were equilibrated in transfer buffer around 30mins prior to transfer.
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Use this guide from BioRad with standard Tris-Glycine-MeOH (Towbin) buffer:
Standard (Overnight) High-Intensity
Trans-Blot tank
  • Plate electr. 10 V/100 mA, 16 hr 50–100 V/700–1,600 mA, 30–60 min
  • Wire electrode 30 V/100 mA, 16 hr 100–200 V/300–800 mA, 30 min–4 hr
Trans-Blot Plus 30 V/0.5 A, 16 hr 100 V/1,500 mA, 60 min
Mini Trans-Blot 30 V/90 mA, 16 hr 100 V/350 mA, 60 min
Criterion blotter
  • Plate electr. 10 V/50–80 mA, 16 hr 100 V/750–1,000 mA, 30 min
  • Wire electr. 10 V/30–40 mA, 16 hr 100 V/380–500 mA, 60 min
Trans-Blot SD cell N/A Mini gels: 10–15 V/5.5 mA/cm2, 10–30 min
Large gels: 15–25 V/3 mA/cm2, 30–60 min
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Hi, i am trying to express my recombinant protein in BL21 or Rosetta E.coli. The vector is pGEX4T2 I. The predicted MW is 51 kDa. However, the actual MW appears to be lower than the expected MW in SDS-PAGE.(The position of my recombinant protein is 37kDa.) Clone in pGEX4T2 was confirmed by sequencing.
Thanks in advance!
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is your protein expected to be a membrane protein? many membrane proteins run much faster than expected in SDS-PAGE.
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Greetings.
I heard about when make buffer include Tris, set pH using concentrated hydrochloric acid(37%). but SDS-PAGE, loading buffer(10X), Tris-glycine, what I heard set pH for 8.3, use only glycine and NO use HCl or NaOH. (set a pH by Tris and glycine, Tris-base is 30g and glycine is 144g, lots of glycine uses)
I heard about, if use concentrated HCl or NaOH, problem occurs when loading protein. Is it due to strong ionization?
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What you describe is the preparation of electrode buffer, not sample buffer, for Lämmli SDS-PAGE gels. The glycine is essential to create the sharp boundary between the electrode buffer and the stacking gel buffer, which is required to focus the proteins in the sample in a sharp band befoe the enter the separating gel.
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in my SDS PAGE gel
Top and middle is good
but
Bottom part always have smear band
Size of my target protein is 17kDa
on the photoshop, i edit the picture, but also it can not cofirm.
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Seperating gel portion will restrict protein movement as compared to the stacking gel.
3 Reasons could be your problem
1) Acrylamide mix ( Uneven pouring )
2) Overloading of protein / messed up sample prep
( I will vote high for this point made by manuele. Either you heat denatured samples for long or you didnt centrifuge them before loading or LB issue )
3) Heating and reused running buffer.
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My lab is currently searching for a new human/mouse GLI2 antibody. We were using the sc-28674 from Santa Cruz and were quite satisfied with it, but it is no longer produced, so we tried the new sc-271786 from Santa Cruz and the ab26056 from abcam and both did not give satisfying results.
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I'd recommend doing a search on BenchSci and review published data for your best option (https://landing.benchsci.com/academic)
Please see attached for more info.
I hope this helps!
Maurice
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Dear all, I'm currently working with Avibacterium (close family with Haemophillus). I want to compare the expression of an outer membrane protein across different growth phases. There's no MAb available for this protein and producing it in-house is not an option.
A previous work shows that this protein is 600 kDa and whole-protein comparison (via SDS PAGE) with a knock-out mutant for the gene shows no other proteins are of this weight. We don't have an ultracentrifuge to do membrane protein purification/fractionation. So I want to do whole-cell protein extraction and compare the amount of this protein via SDS PAGE and gel-image analysis.
Currently available protocol is to collect the cells, pellet, resuspend in PBS, add SDS PAGE sample buffer, boil, then load onto the gel and run the electrophoresis. Is there any suggestion on how to maximize the protein yield during the extraction, especially because my objective is not merely to detect but to quantify (relatively between various time points)? Do cells from different growth phases have different susceptibility to the lysis buffers (thus affecting the yield)? Thank you in advance.
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Cells at different stage of growth have different susceptibility to sonication with or without a detergent. Prefer addi g protease inhibitor mix in the cell lysis buffer, and you need an ultrafiltration step for separation of membrane proteins.
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I am writing a report and I am supposed to determine the purity of the protein sample? Samples were ran on SDS-PAGE and stained with CBB. Using the Rf value and plotting a standard curve, I was able to determine the molecular weight of the protein. However, I am required to determine the purity of the protein. Please any ideas ir suggestions on how to go about this?
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I think SDS-PAGE only give rough estimation about purity of the protein. If you have separated you protein of interest and then run it on the SD-PAGE, ideally you should get one band which indicate that the you have successfully purified the protein but as SDS-PAGE separate protein on one dimension, there are chances that single band may comprises of more more then one type of protein. You can either go for 2D gel electrophoresis or if your protein is enzyme you can find specific activity which is highest when protein is in its pure form.
Or further you can check the protein purity on LC-MS/MS which is very sensitive technique.
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I'm running SDS-PAGE using 12% gels, loading 30 ug of total proteins in each well. The protein ladder seems to be resolving fine, however, samples doesn't have many bands. Incidentally, all the bands sizes are less than 75 kDa. Any ideas for troubleshooting?
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Your sample appear degraded which can the major reason for the smearing.
Points you can consider while performing SDS-PAGE
-You should use fresh running buffer.
-Use protease inhibitor to minimize the protein degradation while extraction.
-The voltage applied for protein separation on the gel. should be between 100-120 mV for medium size gel.
-Sample preparation should be proper.
As you can see good separation of the ladder, it means that no problem with the gel or the running condition. Majorly yo can play around the sample extraction and preparation.
All the best.
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my protein after i purified it showed one band on sds page. however, it wont form crystals, after gel filtration it shows 2 peaks. Why is this? is it not purified properly? is it due to proteolysis? and if so how come it isnt shown in the sds page?
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Dear Sharaze
generally it means that you have different oligomerization form in solution eg monomer and dimer..monomer and tetramer..monomer and high mw aggregates because sds page is denaturing and all those species run as monomer.
for some proteins, as Raymond suggest it can just be related to the fact that it is a multimer and you can observe at the concentration that you work an equilibrium beetween the different forms. in this case is possible that if you collect one of the 2 peak from SEC, you concentrate it and you load again in the SEC, you will observe again both forms.
for other proteins is it also possible that you have only a fraction of the protein correctly folded while the rest is. unfolded aggregate. this is more common for proteins rich of s-s ( in this case you can see aggregation in sds page if you load the sample with out reducing agent) or that require cofactors for the folding because is it possible that to the high expression rate in the host, not all those are correctly assembled.
in this case if you isolate the monomer or the peak at low molecular weight the theoretically correspond to the folded proteins, it will be stable and show a single peak if concentrated and re-loaded on SEC.
if you run a mw standard in your coloumn for Sec, you can estimate the oligomerization state of your peak and understood if you have multimers ( eg dimer or tetramer) or high mw aggregates.
goood luck
ciao
Manuele
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I´ve had this problem for a while now that my Ponceau staining shows diffused bands and not ladders like it should. Also i’m not getting any results when trying to detect proteins. In SDS-PAGE I used newly made running buffer as well as in transferring, so I doubt it’s beacuse of that.
I’ve noticed that when I make the gels, the TEMED is very yellow. Isn’t this a sign that it contains oxidizing agents? So could that affect? Also when I take the well comb out pieces of gel get to wells even though the gel is polymerized. So in this case I have problems loading my samples to the wells because the gel pieces separate the sample in different levels in the well (I should describe).
Any ideas?
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Hi Kirsi. I can see a lot of bubbles, especially around the potential bands. You can use any kind of material as a roller to remove these bubbles before transfer. I used 50ml Falcon tube.
The ladder showed double bands as well, suggesting that the membrane must have touched the gel twice (or more) before transfer step. It's best not to rearrange the sandwich (filter paper, gel, membrane, filter paper) when they have touched each other once.
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I have just cloned and expressed a thermophilic alkaline serine protease in E.coli BL21(D3). The protease was expressed as a soluble protein (about 60%) with about 30kDa Mol. wt. (confirmed by western blot). The next step for me was to purify the protein using Ni-NTA resin . My problem was to know the best binding, washing and elution buffers with their best concentration that I can use for a one step purification for the enzyme. I have tried the heat treatment but I could not obtain a pure single band on SDS-PAGE. I will like to know the possible protocol to achieve this purification process within the shortest possible notice. Thanks.
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Follow the protocol from the manufacturer of the imac gel. Imac is a pseudo-affinity technique; thus it is rarely used as a single purification technique. If many contaminant proteins were removed by heat treatment, use the supernatant fraction to run imac.
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Will the protein's phosphorylation state could be affected if the samples are sitting into the 4X SDS-PAGE Sample Loading Buffer for more than a year?
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Thank you Sébastien Soubeyrand
Rachel Gad
and Ray Kruse Iles for your repose. I think I have got my answer
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Hello everyone,
I am working on yeast surface display of influenza virus protein. However, I have tried many times but the western blot showed that M2 and HA fusion expressed but in different size as predicted (26kDa/M2 and 78 kDa/HA) compared to yeast and un-induced yeast.
I have tried cMyc antibodies, M2 Abs and HA Abs. The result showed in attached figure.
Would you please give some advice? I really appreciate for your kindly help.
Wish you a nice day.
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I do not have much suggestions. Try different protease inhibitors including commercial cocktails. Effective, quickly denaturing of the samples also important.
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People suggested that its a chaperone but I tried washing with ATP & Mgcl2 but couldn't get rid of this contaminant. I am attaching SDS PAGE profile of Ni-NTA purified protein please give suggestions how can I get rid of it .
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Agree with Laura: polyclonal would be informative: are all three bits from the same protein?
But theoretically, all 3 bits should have the his tag, and anti-his Ab might be helpful too.
If the bits are indeed the same protein, the PMFS might be "off" and protease/s are chewing off the carboxy terminal (assuming its the amino terminal that has the his tag!). We always use leupeptin and PMSF, and even p-complete protease inhibitor cocktail tablets!.
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Thank you.
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Do NOT leave your samples at room temperature unless you're REALLY sure that it is stable at those conditions. I just followed Samantha J Richardson's suggestion and my sample was completely degraded.
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Hi guys,
Which protocol convenient by SDS-PAGE extract protein for yeast ?
Please recommend me some research, article, paper..,
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Hello, it depends on what you want to do with it but you could cut the band from the gel and put it in an eppendorf tube with few microliters of the loading buffer for eletrophoresis (or another buffer suitable for your next step). You can then chop the piece of gel up, vortex it and also let it in contact with the buffer for a while (sonication helps as well) so that the protein band can pass into the buffer. After that just spin the eppy down and recover the buffer with your protein. You can than concentrate it, dialyse it or reload it directly on another gel if you want to run it again.
Also see the nice reference below.
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This was a question in my protein science final, the only question I missed. Any suggestions? All my professor will tell me is i should run SDS page as first step. I wrote Cryo-EM, which is apparently wrong.
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Hi there!
I'm purifying a recombinant protein and I always get 2 spots in SDS-PAGE in which one spot has two times more mass than the other. Probably it's a dimer.
I would like to try an oxidative sample buffer so I would be able to break possible disulfide bonds between the protein chains.
Do you know a protocol for preparing an oxidative sample buffer?
Thanks!
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β-Mercaptoethanol (5%)
Bromophenol blue (0.02%)
Glycerol (30%)
cautionSDS (Sodium dodecyl sulfate) (10%)
cautionTris-Cl (250 mM, pH 6.8)
So instead of DTT β-Mercaptoethanol
Good luck
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The pI of my protein is about 7
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SDS-PAGE Sample Loading Buffer 5X
100ml solution
1. 250 mM Tris·HCl, pH 6.8, - 25ml
2. 10% SDS, - 10g
3. 30% (v/v) Glycerol, - 30ml
4. 500mM DTT, - 5ml
5. 0.05% (w/v) Bromophenol Blue - 5ml
Hope this info will help you.
Good luck!
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Hello fellow colleagues and scientists,
we want to determine the purity of our Protein A purified human antibodies via SDS-PAGE. We observe only one band at 150kDa in the non-reduced SDS-PAGE as we would expect it.
In the reduced SDS-PAGE on the other hand we see bands for all the different antibody fragments, which hints to an incomplete reduction of the disulfide bridges between the fragments. The optimal PAGE would only show the 50kDa and 25kDa bands for the heavy and light chains and nothing else.
As 4x sample buffer we use:
glycerol (30%), tris-base (1M, pH = 6,8 with HCl) (25%), SDS (5%), 2-mercaptoethanol (20%), DTT (400mM), bromophenol blue (0,02%).
Which gives a final reducing agent concentration of 5% 2-mercaptoethanol and 100mM DTT.
We heat the samples for 10 Minutes at 90°C before loading them to the gel. The gels were silver-stained. See them attached.
We also tried alkylation with iodoaceteamide and NEM after and during the heating step, which didn't make a difference at all.
We would be thankful for any hints or suggestions to obtain only the two fully reduced bands of the heavy and light chains from the antibody.
Thanks a lot!
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I would add a chaotrope (urea is compatible with SDS-PAGE) to help denature the protein to allow more efficient reduction of the disulfide bond.
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I subjected to SDS-PAGE and WB analysis the whole cell extract of E.coli cells to evealuate if a recombinant protein was expressed. Is it necessary to normalize? how? is there a housekeeping?
Thanks
Laura
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Dear Laura
of course yiu need to load a similar amount of cell lisate for each line, however generally if you are looking to the expression of a recombinant proteins for purification, the protein have to be over expressed in goid amount and therefore your normalizzation could be rude. you can just measure the od of the culture, lisate and run in the gel a fix od of lised cells ( i suggest to yuo to run both total and solubile fraction)
if you want to be more precise, you can quantify your extract with bradford or bca and load a costant amount (e.g 20ug) for lane but this is more important when you are performing wb analisis of cell lisate for check the expression of a constititive gene if the cells.
if the expression is not clearly detectable because your protein run a mw where the non induced e.coli show other strong bands in sds page, if you clone contain a his, gst or mbp tag you can perform or a wb with anti tag antibody or a small scale purification with gravity flow coloumn (using 100ul of resin) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/314950177_SMALL_IMAC_MANUAL_PURIFICATION_a_simple_way_to_purify_manually_up_to_24_his-tagged_protein_samples_in_parallel_up_to_1mg_of_purified_protein)
good luck
Manuele
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Hi,
I am going to do Percoll gradient centrifugation for subcellular fractionation. Before I start I would like to know whether I need to adjust the PH of percoll to 7.4. I use percoll from Sigma (PH 8.5-9.5).
And after centrifugation, can I directly use the fractions for SDS PAGE and WB?
Thank You
Anu
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11/26/18
Dear CJ,
The need to adjust the pH will likely depend on the nature of your sample. Are you trying to isolate and characterize one or more proteins or enzymes? If so, then you need to be concerned about the pH stability of these materials. If their activity or functionality are pH-sensitive, then the safe approach would be to adjust the pH to 7.4, assuming that is the pH at which they are stable/functional.
After isolation, you should be able to go directly to SDS-PAGE. I have never worked w/ Percoll, but it is a colloidal silica suspension. It might not hurt to try a centrifugation step to remove the particles. If they can't be removed this way, I would expect them to remain at the top (or "origin") of your gel, and therefore not be a problem. One way to find out would be to add some Percoll to one of your protein standards and run this in a separate "lane" on your gel to see how it behaves.
At the electrophoresis step, the pH of your sample should not be a problem, as the SDS-PAGE buffer should be sufficient to override the sample pH and allow your proteins to migrate through the gel.
I hope this information helps you.
Bill Colonna Center for Crops Utilization Research, Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa, USA wcolonna@iastate.edu
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Hi all,
I am using the Ni-NTA magnetic agarose bead from Thermo (Pierce™ Ni-NTA Magnetic Agarose Beads) to do the IP, I want to ask in the final elution step, could I just boil the bead with loading buffer for SDS-PAGE instead of elute it? I don't want to reuse the bead and my sample concentration is too low, elution (>200uL) would too dilute.
Should I boil the beads with protein, then use the magnet stand to remove the bead and use the supernatant for SDS-PAGE? will the protein release from the bead like this? Or I could use the whole boiled beads containing protein for SDS-PAGE? Thanks ahead for any answer!
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it is not necessary to boil magnetic beads..but if you are doing it than it will good but proper wash is necessary.
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The sample is a mixture of proteins, doesn't contain one purified protein. However there is only one protein band on my membrane (and my previous gels). I keep getting the same result like in the attached image, even when I increased the amount of the protein extracted and ran SDS PAGE on the same day of the extraction to minimize degradation. I'm thinking of using another extraction procedure. I still want to know other opinions. Do you have any other possibilities to explain the strong bands in the middle?
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okay. So what the internal control will tell us? If there is no control band, would it be due to the extraction procedure or the blotting? I personally don't think anything can be wrong with the blotting.
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Can anyone share the experience and protocol of SDS-PAGE & Western blot for schirmer test sample?
Sincerely,
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You can use Nature Protocols for SDS-PAGE and Western blot.
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Hi. i am working on protein refolding and i am curious if there are protease remaining in the IB. For now, i am including protease inibitor to make sure that there are no proteolysis. To make sure, i ran sds-page(non-reduced) to see if my target protein was cut by protease (after 1hour incubation in RT). The result showed proper size of my target protein. However, still i want to make sure that there are no protease in my sample. Has anyone experience or has an knowledge of this issue? thank you.
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Whatever proteases there may be in the inclusion bodies will be unable to cleave them in their aggregated state. Once you dissolve the IBs with urea or guanidine HCl, any proteases will also be inactivate in the denaturant. The problem comes when you refold the protein by removing the denaturant. That is when the protease inhibitors will be important, but by then you should already have purified the protein, which should, hopefully, have gotten rid of the proteases.
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I previously tried gelatin zymography using precast 0.1% gelatin gels (Novex) and it worked fine (gave me some 'clearance zones'). I came accross immersing zymography in some papers and wanted to try it, as it seems cheaper and easier. I have used precast SDS-PAGE gel with no substrate (Mini-Protean) and applied the same protocol as previously. The only change was that 0.1% gelatin was added to my developing buffer. After staining with SimplyBlu SafeStain (also used previously) it seems like only a half of gel took up the stain and unfortunately not the half where I was expecting to see proteolytic activity. Any ideas what went wrong?
Regards,
Jadwiga
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Were you using gradient gels? Then the substrate protein may have difficulties getting into the high-percentage part.
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I ran a 15% SDS-PAGE gel. After the end of the run the lower bands of the marker/ladder were visible clearly. But when the gel was stained with commassie stain, the lower half of the bands in the gel disappeared. 
Later the same reagents and conditions were used to run a gel of 12.5%, that ran and stained properly. 
What could be reason for such observation?
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Navjyoti Chakraborty did I found any explanation
same situation with me 15% sds page and I see protein ladder very well but after staining nothing appear
I already used this stain before and reuse it first time it give very good profile
any explanation???
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Resolved my protein (envelope glycoprotein ~ 65 kDa) by 12% SDS-PAGE and transferred to nitrocellulose paper for western blotting. Have detected the same protein before, and it worked, but the last few blots have been staining the same protein white. Why may this be so? I have included pictures...
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If this is western blotting (your images do not make this clear), this can happen when your signal is so intense that all ECL reagent in the immediate vicinity is exhausted before you even put the film down. In essence, there's so much protein that it generates an intense burst of light and then nothing.
The fact that you're seeing a lot more background (assuming I'm interpreting the images correctly) suggests these are longer exposures.
Alternatively, is the antibody a different batch?
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Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone has tried using glutathione (or any other natural reducing agents) to reduce proteins for SDS-PAGE analysis in place of beta-mercaptoethanol. Perhaps there are other co-factors essential for the reduction process? Please advise if there are any protocols available.
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The advantage of mercaptoethanol relative to other disulfide reducing agents is that it is added at a very high concentration (5% i.e. 0.7 M). Hence, it is less likely to loose its reducing power as compared to DTT or trimethyl phosphine which are added at much lower concentrations. Stench is of course a problem if you leave the vessels open for too long.
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I have performed a Far UV CD analysis of my purified protein and obtained the Asc file which has all the details of the wavelength and the ellipticity values in degrees. I have run the K2D3 software and found that my protein has alpha helical nature. As far my protein is concerned it is purified by a two step process- ion exchange chromatography and gel filtration chromatography and I have obtained 3 bands in both reducing and non reducing SDS-PAGE. To plot the CD spectra, I would have to use wavelength on X-axis and on the Y-axis should I represent the ellipticity values in mdeg(the values in Asc file itself) or should I determine the Mean residual ellipticity using the formula?
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Are you measuring Far UV CD on a mixture of proteins? if so you can probably not rely on the data as the ellipticity of your protein as the signal will be an average of everything present.
With regards to presenting CD data you should always present it as mean residue ellepticity as this unit normalizes to concentration making all spectra comparable, you can also use mean molar ellipticity with the formular :
[θ]molar=(100xθobs)deg.cm2.dmol-­‐1/(dxm)
where d is the path length in cm. If we know the molar concentration (m) (in mol/L)
hope that was helpful
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Please the relative references
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SDS-PAGE is a denaturing procedure, so oligomers are usually broken down into monomers and appear at the monomer molecular weight on SDS-PAGE. If the subunits in the oligomer are joined by disulfide bonds, adding a reducing agent to the sample buffer will reduce the bonds, freeing the monomers.
If you want to characterize the mass of the oligomers themselves, you could use gel filtration chromatography with a suitable resin. The column can be calibrated using large proteins of known size. If there is a SEC-MALS (size exclusion chromatograohy with multiangle light scattering) system around, you can measure the mass without the need for calibration standards.
Analytical centrifugation is another technique for measuring the mass and shape of large proteins, although the instruments are not that common.
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Hi,
I have trouble in detecting my protein band of interest (approximately 20 kDa) in SDS-PAGE. Protein bands between 35kDa and 11kDa do not appear in the gel.(SDS page image has been attached)
I have tried both 12% and 15% gel concentration but the problem still remain unsolved. what is the problem?Does anyone have experience regarding this issue?
Thank you
Narges
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Instead of fixing and staining..
You can prepare staining solution with 10% acetic acid , 50% methanol and 40% water along with 0.25% CBB-R250.. this solution will work well...
For destaining
10% acetic acid, 50% methanol and 40% water..
This will work well ..
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When expressed in Pichia pastoris, the recombinant protein Antigen 5 (~25 kDa) appears in two bands in SDS-PAGE after purification in affinity chromatography. The supperior band have a molecular weight of ~30 kDa. And the lower band have a molecular weight of ~25 kDa. Does someone have any idea of what the additional band might be? Maybe a glycosylation or peptide signal? We are waiting for the results of the sequencing of both bands.
The image bellow contain the purified protein with two bands.
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Hi there,
I guess the protein is secreted into the medium. Is it naturally glycosylated? In my experience glycosylation in Pichia doesn't result in such a clear pattern... I would rather think about proteolysis (Kex2 mediated one which would tell the process is not completed) or degradation of the matured product. As it seems the upper band is actually bigger than the expected product I would go for Kex2 unomplete cutting.
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While pouring both the resolving and the stacking gels inside the glass plates, bubbles are produced because
of the sds due to which the wells do not form properly and so I can't load my samples into them.
Also, does the water layer mixes with the resolving gel (while it solidifies inside the plates) when it is put on the top of it??
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Fakhria Wahid Do it the other way around. First put the cassette in the tank and then fill it up with running buffer. Next remove the comb gently; in case you see newly formed bubbles, flush them out using gel running buffer and a pipette. In the end, start loading your samples.
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During SDS-PAGE separation the sample buffer running faster than sample. Can anyone help me to fix this problem?
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I agree with the above answers. The dye in your samples is probably different to the dye in the molecular weight marker. Once your protein is still expected between bands visible for the marker you shouldn't have any issues. For peice of mind, check the manufacturer of the sample loading dye and the marker to see if they are the same.
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When performing ChIP-proteomics/ChIP-MS based techniques, if one chooses to do X-ChIP using standard 1% formaldehyde cross-linking is it necessary to reverse the cross-links before performing mass-spec based proteomics techniques?
Many studies tend to use SDS PAGE prior to mass-spec which would lead to cross-link reversal when samples are boiled. Is it possible to send the beads or eluate directly for analysis?
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Dear Lee,
It is possible to carry out "on bead proteolysis". Eg., such as the "Click-iT protein enrichment kit" from Invitrogen : protocol which is designed to look for newly synthesized proteins utilizes on bead trypsin digestion of proteins. After extensive washings, the protein bound on the bead is digested with trypsin. I have obtained good data with the approach in the protocol.
On the other hand, if you can indeed reverse the cross-link and carry out SDS-PAGE, in gel digestion of the purified proteins should also result in successful proteomics experiemnts.
Good luck,
Hediye.
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I am ultimately aiming to purify a linear His-tagged peptide of 6 kDa size, which is expected to obtain in low amounts. I have priorly transformed the E. Coli BL21(DE3) cells, then induced with IPTG in various concentrations at various temperatures/hours. Now, I am trying to see if any expression bands are present. (At the SDS-PAGE, I run the lysates of non-transformed cells, transformed-but-not-induced cells, and induced cells.)
At first, I have performed 12,5% SDS-PAGE, and the peptide ran out of the gel. Then, I have tried 16% Tricine-SDS-PAGE, but my gels were not appropriate (too short) to properly carry out the procedure (8 cm x 8 cm, 1.0 mm). Thus, I was not able to separate the bands. Lastly, I have tried 20% SDS-PAGE, and I had perfectly crisp bands above 10 kDa, but there was nothing visible below that.
So, please suggest me a procedure to visualize clear bands at 6 kDa. Else, if I were to perform a Western Blot with an anti-His antibody, could solely this prove that I have produced my peptide?
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Have a look at this precast gel selection guide. It indicates which type of gels from one supplier are useful for separating very small proteins.
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Our lab is doing nanovaccine project. To label the antigen Bm86 (75KDa) which is the cattle tick antigen, we used Cy5 tag to conjugate with the proteins and then loaded them to silica nanoparticles(SNPs) . After the labeling, we conducted SDS-PAGE and western blot to confirm the binding between SNPs and Bm86. However, not like the results we got from the unlabeled one, we could not get any band on sds gel but had a band for positive which is the unlabeled Bm86, and for western blot we can not only see bands on the 75KDa position but on the top of wells. Therefore, we assume not all labeled proteins ran through the gel, some of them still left on the top like the situation when we add insufficient loading dye.
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The cy5 dye has around 1 kDa of the size and more than 1 cy5 molecules may bind to the protein depending on the reacting groups available on the protein. So it is quite obvious that the protein's molecular weight and its gel mobility properties change after the labeling. The labeling may also effect the binding properties of the protein to the nanoparticles. Being an immunologist, I also have an additional suggestion. Make sure that the cy5 conjugation does not effect the antigenic properties of the protein and I hope you just use this labeled protein only for the tracking purposes.
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Hello Everyone,
Recently I engineered a new fusion gene which contained a promoter region fused to a protein which is a hybrid of two proteins (genetically engineered in a certain fashion). It is expressed in bacteria and is a membrane protein.
Before I test the functionality of this engineered protein (for what it was designed to do), I would like to confirm that the protein is being produced normally. In other words, if my functional assays do not work out, at least I know the protein is being produced properly, and the gene of interest is actually present.
There is not easy functional assay to asses this since it is a new protein. I was thinking of perhaps doing a RT-PCR for the fusion gene of interest to see whether it is being produced. Is there any other control tests that should be done to confirm this protein? Would some type of protein extraction and SDS-PAGE be required?
Thanks.
Adam
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I agree with Laurence Stuart Dawkins-Hall that Coomassie staining should be tried to demonstrate expression of the protein, if it it expressed at a high enough level to detect that way. Use a membrane preparation rather than a total cell extract, because that enriches for membrane protein. That should also remove the selection marker protein, which is also expressed from the plasmid but is normally a soluble protein. Consider also the possibility that the protein may not get incorporated into the membrane, but may end up as inclusion bodies. Do an inclusion body prep and look for it there. Use a Western blot, if possible, to confirm that the identified protein is the right one and to see if there are truncated or degraded forms of the protein also present.
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Hey guys,
I am new to western blot and SDS-PAGE world.
I am running albumin depleted human plasma samples on the 10% SDS gel with a TGS running buffer.
These are the issues I encounter everytime:
1. I don't see any bubbles after 10-12mins of run time.
2. Neither the sample nor the ladder run beyond a certain length.
I have tried changing cassettes and outer tank and made sure that the Anode and Cathode are plugged in proper.
Any help troubleshooting this issue is much appreciated.
Thank you very much!
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I guess your PAGE system is the method of Laemmli. It seems to me that the conditions are not appropriate. What if you recheck the concentrations of Tris, Gly, SDS, Tris-HCl, and pH, i.e. your recipe?
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Hi, My plan is to do a Western blot after running SDS. My research mentor told me to run two gels. I will stain one gel and transfer another gel to a nitrocellulose membrane for WB. She said that is necessary for us to have more data to analyze and make sure we successfully run the gel. Do you think she is right? I think as long as I stain the membrane with Ponceau after transfer, it should be sufficient to tell if I do everything correctly.
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Saving the picture (photo) of the Ponceau staining before proceeding to block the membrane is indeed critical if you want to keep a record of the total protein pattern for further interpretations. The Ponceau red staining will fade quickly in the blocking solution. Alternatively, if you have enough lanes available, you can load your samples twice in each half of the gel, then cut the gel in half after the migration and use one half for Coomassie staining and the other for Western blotting
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Hi ALL,
Anyone working on S. aureus autolysins. I am trying to find out the role antimicrobial peptides in activation and killing of S. aureus.
Any one give me idea how to prepare samples for SDS-PAGE. I generally incubate S. aureus in the presence of peptides and centrifuge 13000 g for 15 min. then take the supernatural and load onto the gel but not did not get any band.
Please share your experience.
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I couldn't understand your point.
You wanna check how peptides kill staph or you wanna check another things?
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I am running a 10% SDS page. Running buffer is tris-glycine-SDS. But the protein ladder started in a bent condition in the stacking, and the vertical bending continues. Voltage in stacking is 100V, then I reduced to 70 to eliminate high voltage scenario. Can anyone suggest any information for uniform bands?
Also, the resolving gel formed uneven layer in previous attempts, but even layer formed with the use of isopropanol.
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It can happen for several reasons: 1-. pH of Buffers, should verify that it is not very acidic and this affecting the migration. 2-. The concentration of acrylamide or the way to prepare the gel. Another possibility is that you are sowing on the edges of the gel and sometimes the bands are deformed, I suggest in this case sowing in channels or posillos that are in the middle of the gel. I hope I have helped you, kind regards.
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I ran samples of my purified POI and it's standard in SDS-PAGE at different concentrations, and at non-reducing and reducing conditions; and did silver staining afterwards (Invitrogen Kit). For both conditions, same amounts of protein were used, but the ones in the non-reducing condition resulted in negative bands. I have read that if protein concentration is too high, it can appear as a negative band. If this was the reason, why then the negative banding occurred only in the non-reducing condition when same amounts were used?
Has anyone experienced this, or any helpful ideas are much appreciated. Thanks^^
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Thanks Shin-Ichiro Hiraga, but the file is inaccessible. Anyways, my POI has only 2 disulfide bonds. I doubt it's causing the negative banding as I have come across a review article discussing about protein groups that are reactive with silver staining. It has mentioned some disulfide-containing proteins that stained positively. If it makes a difference, I'd like to mention that the samples in the non-reducing condition were not boiled unlike the ones in the reducing condition.
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Hi everyone. Im working with expression of eukaryote gene in bacteria system. I have a question but before that, below is my procedure in the expression.
1. I grow my culture to OD: 06. Upon reach the desired OD, I aliquot 1 ml as uninduced culture. The remaining culture, I induced with IPTG.
2. After induction, I aliquot 1 ml as induced culture.
3. Then, I centrifuge the cell culture, removed the supernant and get the pellet. The pellet, I lyse with sds sample buffer. After lysis, I centrifuge again, transfer the supernatant (soluble fraction) into new tube. But i keep the debris (insoluble fraction).
4. I run both of the supernant (soluble fraction) and debris (insoluble fraction on 12 % sds page.
I have attached my result below:
Lane M: Marker
lane 1: Uninduced culture
Lane 2 - 5: soluble fraction
lane 6 - 9 : insoluble fraction
My question: Since large amount of my protein is present in insoluble fraction, is it indicates that my protein actually were expressed as inclusion bodies?
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If you don't know if the protein is integral, membrane associated or soluble, it is a bit more complicated. The first 2 are not soluble unless you add detergent to your lysis buffer, the third is if properly folded. To check that your protein forms inclusion bodies you have to show that it is still insoluble in the presence of detergent but becomes soluble after massive addition of chaotropic agent like GdmCl (6M) or urea (8M).
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to find a cheap way to compare the proteomic composition and abundance of some bone samples. In particular, I am expecting to see a reduction in the abundance of some of these proteins as a result of different treatments that I will perform on these bones.
Since I have to exclude HPLC/MS-MS (too expensive) and any other mass spectrometry technique, and since I believe that an SDS page will results in a complex smear (more than 50-60 proteins in the mixture) and a 2D-GE will be too complicated to find differences between my samples, I was thinking to simply quantify my samples in order to compare them. But, since I am expecting some proteins within this mixture being more denatured in same samples than in others, my question is: are protein assays (e.g., Bradford, BCA, etc.) able to provide different quantification results for denatured vs folded proteins? I don't know exactly the chemistry behind them, so anyone able to help me will be extremely appreciated! Any other suggestion will be appreciated as well!
Many thanks!
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Does single nucleotide mutation in Ribosomal Binding Site of an expression vector hamper protein expression? As there is no band could be seen in SDS-PAGE..
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The iGEM website has a list of RBS sequences that are recommended for protein expression in E. coli. You could at least compare your RBS sequence to these. Of course, as discussed above, there are many other factors that can affect protein expression.
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I need a protocol that extracts both, whey proteins and caseins, to evaluate the protein profile of proteins present in dehydrated bovine milk by polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis (SDS-PAGE).
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Dear Cristine , in the attached files you will find the SDS-PAGE method I used for analysis of milk proteins .
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I purified my lectin from a seed by ion exchange chromatography followed by gel filtration chromatography.The eluted fractions after gel filtration chromatography were used to perform a non-reducing SDS-PAGE. I obtained 2 bands for my pure protein.After which, I performed a NATIVE PAGE (Resolving gel-10% and Stacking gel - 4%).However I see a faint streaky pattern in the gel and there seems to be a slight aggregation in the well itself. No bands in the gel.Could it be that my protein is huge and I need to use a lower resolving gel %. Could anyone give me some suggestions cos its a mystery as to why I cant see any bands in the NATIVE PAGE. I used BSA as a standard for which I have obtained a good prominent band.
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Dear Deepti Madayi,
There are several reasons that may explain the running behavior that you observe in Native Page (assuming that the protein you obtained is pure). One, as you mention can be an aggregation effect. But it is not the only reason. Many proteins are not monomers under native conditions, but they rather oligomerize, forming big complexes that do not enter the well on native gels. In some other cases, the amino acid composition, or posttranslational modifications affect the running pattern. Normally, highly acidic proteins are unstructured under native conditions and they run at a higher molecular weight than the predicted size (you can observe that even under denaturing conditions). I am not familiar with lectin, then I do not know if any of those explanations fit with your case. In any case I would try to reduce the percentage of your gel. In my experience, 5 % gel works well to resolve the proteins I work with.
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Gels: Bio-Rad Mini-PROTEAN TGX Gels 12% (brand new)
Fix: 50% Methanol, 10% Acetic Acid
Stain: .1% Coomassie Blue G-250, 50% Methanol, 10% Acetic Acid, 40% mQH2O
Destain: 5% Methanol, 7% Acetic Acid
I was having issues with destaining gels previously but thought it was due to older gels. Now that I've received the new gels, I am still having issues. The gel was rinsed 3 times for 5 minutes in mQH2O before fixing for 2 hrs, then stained for 1 hr, and has been destaining about 18 hrs (agitating slowly in a plastic container in each step). The destain solution has been changed 2 hours after the start of destaining then again this morning. There are Kimwipes balled up and wetted with destain next to the gel which have been changed out more often. All solutions were made 4 days prior. Would it be beneficial to test the purity of the Coomassie Blue G-250? If so, how would you go about doing so? Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!
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I think that staining protocol with Coomasie R250 is easier than G250 I use the following solutions and alway stain and destain right. colour solution of 0.25% (w/v) Coomassie Brilliant Blue R-250 in methanol: water: acetic acid (5:1:5). Gel destaining was carried out using 7.5% (v/v) acetic acid and 20% (v/v) methanol for 3 h.
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After running gel for 2 and half hour at 90v , n staining with cumassie i got more then one band...what might be reason ? I am attaching pic.
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nice details
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Salam and Hi.
I have a question. Is denatured protein and undenatured protein have the same lenght when view on 12% sds page?
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I would just like to clarify what I think you are asking:
SDS is an negatively charged detergent used in SDS PAGE, usually combined with heat to denature proteins and give them the same charge to mass ratio so proteins separate on the basis of size. If you do not heat your sample but still have SDS present (as I think you are suggesting), depending on the protein, your samples could run differently because the whole protein may not be adequately denatured just by the presence of SDS alone i.e. it will have more secondary structure and therefore be slightly more compact, and will potentially run faster. SDS will break ionic interactions so may give you information about the nature of the protein-protein interactions.
Other ways of separating proteins are under denaturing (SDS/Heat) and reducing conditions. The presence of the reducing agent breaks any disulphide bonds and unfolds the protein even further breaking secondary structures formed by these bonds. Proteins treated in this way will tend to run differently to non reduced samples and is a technique used to determine if higher order structures are linked by S-S bonds.
Running gels without heat/SDS is called native-PAGE in which proteins retain their overall charge, shape (and size) and therefore separate close to their "native structure" : monomer, dimer, trimer etc
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I did Tris-Glycine SDS-PAGE. I made this using the methods outlined in the molecular cloning book. but I couldn't see the straight band. What is a problem? I want to get straight band..
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Bacteriocins are usually highly basic peptides with low molecular mass. Tris glycine gels may not be the best approach. I would try tricine gels.
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As we all know, the A in SDS-PAGE stands for acrylamide,
but how to name acrylamide from its structural information? H2CCH-CONH2
My biochemistry knowledge is all lost :(
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Hi,
Acrylamide IUPAC name from the structural is 2-propenenamide, 2-propenamide or prop-2-enamide.(Any one of them).
I hope this will help you.
Best of luck!
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Hi everyone!
I have been working on a protein with mol. wt. of 45 kDa. This protein is present in inclusion bodies, which I have refolded and purified. I wish to carry out cryo EM experiments regarding which I have following questions:
1) Is it possible to carry out Cryo EM experiment with protein of 45 kDa size?
2) Is it necessary to carry out negative staining EM before going for Cryo EM experiment?
3) What is the concentration of protein that is required for cryo EM experiments?
4) I have attached the SDS PAGE image of refolded and purified protein. Is the protein pure enough for cryo EM experiment?
Thank you
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The smallest protein structure reported till now is Haemoglobin 64kDa . The problem of small proteins have been partly curtailed by use of Volta phase plates. But yes anything less than 200kDa still remains challenging!
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Resolution: I have figured what went wrong but leaving the post in case someone has a similar problem in the future. I forgot to add SDS into running buffer!
The original post below:
Any idea what could have gone wrong? My proteins entered the resolving gel, however they did not get separated. It looks to me as some sort of problem with the gel I casted.
The conditions used are:
  • gel: self casted - 5% stacking gel, 10% resolving gel
  • buffers: tris-glycine + sds in the upper chamber and tris-glycine in the lower chamber (to increase the potential of the current and help the protein migration)
I made a few new buffers so maybe something went wrong with that. Will try with what I know has been altered but any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Without SDS the Laemmli-system cannot work, because Proteins bind about 1 SDS molecules pr 3 amino acids. Since each SDS molecule carries a negative charge, the charge/mass by mass ratio of all proteins, and hence their acceleration in an electrical field, is (in first approximation) constant for all proteins. The Rf-value is determined by protein interaction with the gel mesh, and hence protein size.
You can see this clearly in the photo, the proteins do not enter the gel because without SDS they have little charge.
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I wished to expressed 15N-Labelled N-His tagged TacpD (Thiomarinol ACP, M.W= 14225) protein in M9 minimal medium. so, I used E.Coli (BL21,DE3) cell, did overnight preculture at 37 deg Cel. Next morning I washed the precultured cell pellets with ~300 ml M9 media. then re suspended in 25 ml of M9 media. Then this resuspended culture was used for growing in M9 ( 1ml/100ml). After 8 hours the OD was 0.482. I was made the temperature down to 16 deg and induced with 0.25mM IPTG. Induced for overnight. Next morning harvested the cell pellets (low cell pellets). Resuspendend in 20 ml Lysis Buffer ( 5omM Tris+ 0.5M NaCl + 10% glycerol). Then Sonicated and extracted the soluble and insoluble part. Run a SDS-PAGE gel and got a band ~ 14KDa in insoluble sample.
The cell growing rate is too slow. And how could I get soluble protein?
N.B: I expressed this protein as soluble in LB medium at the same conditions.
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you can try expressing your protein as a GST or MBP-fusion protein at 18C for up to 18 hours. If your construct is inducible, try to work on e.g. IPTG concentrations.
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Hi everyone,
I wanted to compare 2 protein standards (from the same company) to decide which one to use but after I found that the location of molecular weights of the two different standards does not match when I run my SDS-PAGE gel. For example, one standards is supposed to have a protein band with 20 kda and the other one 21 kda; however, the one with the 21 kda band appears far lower comparing to the standard with the 20 kda band. I know that the distribution of the protein bands of each standard is different but shouldnt the molecular weight of both be somehow aligned?
I am attaching a file with images of my gel, in one image I took one standard as basis first and in the second image I am taking the other one.
Thank you in advance for your answers :)
Veronica
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I have compared many different molecular weight standards from different companies, and there is a considerable amount of variation in the migration, especially in the low range.
In your case, the broadrange standards are "real" proteins, while the PP are engineered (which is why they are so precise). That alone can account for the difference.
My advice is to pick one (i. e. PP) and use it all the time, so you can always relate changes in MW back to the same standard, even if it is not exactly accurate. My own personal opinion is that the engineered standards are more reproducible from batch to batch, and more stable.
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equilibiration buffer composition is 20mM NaH2PO4.2H20, 300mM Nacl, 20mM imidazole. Elution with 500mM imidazole. Can i get completely purified protein without any host proteins. Is that NaCl palys any role in protein purifications
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Affinity chromatography by design should show high specificity towards the target protein but in reality, there are still optimization runs that need to be taken to reach optimum results. My recommendations would be:
1. flush the column with at least 3 volume of loading buffer to remove any unbound proteins
2. use a concentration gradient of imidazole for the elution instead of just one concentration. If you do not have a mixer, I suggest prepare several buffers with increased imidazole concentration and start the elution by the one contains the relative lower concentration. This method can help eliminate some relatively tightly bound but not "affinity-grade" protein contaminants
3. re-pack the column on a monthly basis and follow the regeneration protocol to re-activate the resin after 5~8 times of usage, depending on the protein load
4. lastly, this is somewhere that people sometimes tend to ignore but make sure the extra band is not something that can be caused due to the degradation of the protein. Proteases might contribute to this band and I would suggest you also include some protease inhibitor in the buffers.
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I express my target protein which cloned into a pet28a with a his tag and expressed in a BL 21. After induction of 1 mM IPTG and expressed at 37 ℃ for 3 h, it was lysed with lysis buffer ( 50 mM NaH2PO4, 500 mM NaCl, 10 mM imidizole) and sonicated with pulse 6 second ON and 6 second OFF For 6 Minutes with 35% amplitude. It could be easily detected by SDS-PAGE, however, after centrifugation at 13,000 rpm for 10 min, the target protein could not be detected in the supernatant.
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I agree with Koptev, but also have an alternate approach that we use frequently in my lab. We also express our proteins in BL21 cells and use His-Tag protein purification. For optimal protein production in these cells, you should grow the cells at 37 C an monitor the optical density (OD) to make sure the cells are in log-phase (OD between 0.6 and 1.0) before inducing them with IPTG. If you don't, you are going to get sub-optimal yields. Once your OD is in the right range, you then induce with 1 M IPTG and move them to 30 C, which is a temperature that promotes protein production rather than growth. I typically will induce and leave the protein expression to go overnight (3 hours may not be sufficient). The next morning, you want to pellet the cells, discard the LB, then re-suspend the pellet in the binding buffer for your His-Tag purification protocol (we use this one (see attached). Vortex that thoroughly before adding Lysozyme (from chicken white) at 1 mg/mL of re-suspended pellet and vortexing again--this tends to be quite effective and I've never needed to use any sort of lysis buffer (which can get expensive for large scale proteein synthesis, quite honestly). I then typically let this sit on ice for 1 hour before using a tip sonicator at 35-40% amplitude cycling at 2 seconds-"on"-2 seconds-"off" (for 4 min total). I then spin this down at >10,000 rpm for 15 min, and the lysate supernatant contains the desired protein at pretty high yield. Take that and use it with His-Tag purification and you should be set.
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I want to know exactly at which size is my band in the SDS-PAGE protein gel .. So is there any software in which i can mention the ladder scaling and it calculates the size of my band ?
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I used Quantity One software from Bio-Rad. I normally label the lanes for the protein standard (i.e. ladder) and also the target lane, with the same starting point (top of the membrane) and ending point (bottom of the membrane). The software will read the intensity values of the bands within the lane. Then, you can make the scatter plots of the values using Microsoft Excel. The peaks represent the protein standard bands, with known MW (check the brand of the standard, they usually provide the MW). Using values of the MW and the distance calculated from the membrane, you can now make the threshold line equation of the protein standard (y-axis is the MW, x-axis is the distance measured on the membrane). Using the equation, you can now determine the size of your band, based on the distance measured using Quantity One software. Good luck!
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I work on highly positive charge short hydrophobic peptide production from an E. coli cell lysate, M.wt. 6.5 KDa. I used 16% SDS-PAGE with 0.376 M tris HCl as separating gel and 0.025 M tris HCl as stacking one, all i get is this gel profile.
The last band in the marker is about 6 KDa.
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Hi Amira, I have been running SDS-PAGE gels for decades and I have to admit that I don't remember seeing a "bullet" lane like this before.
I don't think this is due to high salt because that would make all the bands blurry and not run right. Yet you have great looking bands until the sample comes to a point at the end.
Please share with us the buffers and conditions you use.
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II am currently working on a protien to be crystallized. The protien is bound to FAD, that's why when I purify the protein with Ni affinity column its colour was yellow . but surprisingly, after changing the buffer from Tris HCL to HEPES NaOH, there was a problem with elution of prtien as SDS PAGE shows nothing.
II am currently working on a protien to be crystallized. The protien is bound to FAD, that's why when I purify the protein with Ni affinity column its colour was yellow . but surprisingly, after changing the buffer from Tris HCL to HEPES NaOH, there was a problem with elution of protien as SDS PAGE shows nothing.
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yes I will try that because this is strange for me if tris HCl only works
thank you so much
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Please note the attached gel. The three antibodies are not the same but are working well recently in others hands. My question is why the band at around 17kDa looks blurry and smearing? That is supposed to be LC3 and is expected to look like 2 close but clear doublet with different intensity. I have striped and probed the same blot with another tube of LC3 from another company and gotten the same result.
One error I could recall is the electrode running buffer. I have mistaken the transfer buffer (Tris-Glycine without SDS) as the running buffer (Tris-Glycine with SDS) and used as the inner buffer for the run, whilst the outer buffer is reused Tris-Glycine with SDS so it was correct. I caught the error in the middle of the run and replaced the wrong buffer with fresh Tris-Glycine with SDS buffer.
Tris-Glycine SDS PAGE, 12% Tris-SDS gel, loading buffer with SDS and 2-mercap, sample-buffer mixture boiled at 100C for 5 mins.
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Thank you for all the answers. So after all the trying, the fix to my particular case is to run it slower. (same condition, same antibody, everything the same as the original post EXCEPT I ran this gel at 50V for 30 minutes and 80V for the rest of the gel) (this picture is showing two cut blots at the same molecular weight range and probed with the same antibody as above)
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I am currently working on protein purification and His-tag removal of a filament protein. SDS PAGE gels of our sample after His-tag removal and purification (but before desalting) show that we have some large proteins in our elution flow through besides the protein of interest.
I was wondering if, when we run the elution results through the desalting column for gel filtration chromatography, we could predict the rate at which these different sized proteins would flow through the column and then fractionate the flow-through to isolate the fraction containing only our protein of interest? If so, is there a machine that we would need for this or is there some math we could use to figure out how fast different sized proteins would flow through?
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I think of desalting columns as gel filtration columns that are not intended for fractionation of proteins by size, but just for removal of low molecular weight salts from high molecular wight proteins, or for buffer exchange. Resolution is sacrificed for speed or throughput. These columns are usually short compared to columns for protein fractionation.
If you run a gel filtration column designed for protein fractionation, which is long compared to its width, larger proteins tend to elute before smaller ones, although protein shape can also be a factor. You can use 280 nm absorbance to follow the elution of the proteins, and SDS-PAGE or a bioassay to find which fractions contain the protein you want.
You can't rely on SDS-PAGE as a guide to the sizes of proteins that need to be separated because many proteins form noncovalent multimers, which is not apparent from SDS-PAGE because the proteins are fully denatured.
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After purifying my recombination fusion protein sample using a Bio-rad Q-column chromatography, the resultant samples, were verified via SDS-PAGE analysis and stored in glycerol 20% concentration (0.201 mg/mL) and digested using 0.5uL of Factor Xa, incubating overnight at 4 degrees. The factor Xa cleavage result was positive. However pure CCL5 protein was not retrieved after apply 20uL of MBP sahparose to 180uL of digested fusion protein after an incubation period of 2hours
And further purified using a Bio-rad Q-column chromatography, the resultant samples, were verified via SDS-PAGE analysis and stored in glycerol 20% concentration (0.201 mg/mL) and digested using 0.5uL of Factor Xa, incubating overnight at 4 degrees. The factor Xa cleavage result was positive. However pure CCL5 protein could not be retrieved from the supernatant, after applying 20uL of MBP sahparose to 180uL of digested fusion protein after an incubation period of 2hours and centrifugating at high speed.
what can i go differently please?
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Hi Wisdom
This paper contain the method using affinity chromatography
Good Luck
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I use western blot of EGFR and p-EGFR using skin tissue.
By the way, the band does not come out clearly and the background is too dirty.
We also used 6% SDS-PAGE gels and used 4% -15% grandient gels. I am transferring from 40V to 2 hours, but recently I am trying from 60V to 2 hours.
The membrane is nitrocellulose, and the transfer buffer is tris, grycine, and methanol. (I did 20% of methanol and tried 5%.)
I have tried blocking 5%, 3%, 1% skim milk or 10%, 5%, 3% BSA but it does not work well.
How can EGFR and p-EGFR western blot in skin tissue be able to get the band out?
Thank you for your advice. Thank you.
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Hi Jinju,
Could you provide us with the brand and catalog number of your primary and secondary antibody as well as, if possible, an image of your defective blots. It may help to spot possible problems.
Best,
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Should i make 2 stock of Tris and Glycine and mix them to desired concentration or can i just directly mix Tris and Glycine?
I want to use the buffer in my SDS-PAGE. My protein of interest is 6.1 kDa and I'm referring this article below.
I know that I should use Tricine system for my SDS-PAGE, but the Tricine is out of stock now.
Please help and many thanks
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Yes, mix as u said. Approximately 0.5 M Tris and 0.05 M Glycine, after adjusting pH with NaOH.