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Hi,
I am looking for a viability marker to stain alive white blood cells and still working after fixation.
Here is my workflow for you to better understand (and tell me if my asumptions are wrong).
1) I am studying white blood cells from total blood (EDTA tube).
The next step must be perfurm in the hour after the sampling.
2) I take a certain volume of blood and had a buffer with fixative agent during 8 min (blood is diluted in 1:1).
3) Then, I make the blood go through a filter to stick fixed cells on it.
4) Finally, I stain the filter with May-Grünwald Giemsa - MGG (resulting in colors from pink to blue with purple) to see the nucleus, cytoplasm et identify my cells under microscope (brightfield).
My idea is to be sure that my cells I identify by MGG were well alive before the 8min fixation.
--> So, I would love to have a viability markers that I could identify in brightfield (so more a dye?), in different colors other than pink/blue/purple and that is not toxic for cells (no apoptosis or death process). If you have an idea.. let me know please :)!
I have made some research and here I found :
  • metabolic stainer such as XTT could have worked but it need an incubation of 2h at 37°C which I can not dot.
  • I found the neutral red but I am not sure if incubation needs to be 1h too or not? if there anyone who has experienced neutral red to stain alive human cells?
  • trypan blue : I have read that it could go through all the cells if time is not short and I am not sure it is still working on fixed cells. I also read it is toxic for cells (but how long?) We could think of 2 min of incubation with trypan blue before the 8min fixation but I do not know if it is a good idea as I can not have a washing step between blue trypan andfixation (so I suppose all my cells will be trypan blue because of the fixation that can make small cells go into the cells?) and also because of the toxicity.. if someone have already test this?
  • finally, I could try fluorescent dye (blue, Cy2 or Cy5). I though about DAPI at low concentration, 5 min before the 8minfixation. But I means I have to use a microscope with both brightfield and fluo which means the identification of cells will take more time. But If I have not the choice..
Thank you for you returns! :)
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Thank you Amanda, I want to stain viable cells without incubating cells at 37°C so I think Alamar Blue would not be the solution ?
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I am having trouble deciding if this is cell contamination or something else. I keep seeing this fiber like bodies in my media (not on the same level as my adherent cells). There is no smell or media color change that indicates contamination. I do also see these fibers when i attempt to do a cell count with trypan blue. Has anyone seen something similar? I dont see any movement at all and they dont move when I jiggle the flask gently. I am concerned since I keep seeing these even after I rinse with PBS and place in new media. Is something off with my sterile filter when making my media or is this some type of yeast or bacterial contamination?
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Dear Ashley,
It looks to me like fibers from, for example, pulp or a similar material. Check the procedure of your experiment and the handling to see if such a fiber entry is possible at that point.
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Hi all.
I hope to learn which companies' (sigma, thermo scientific, etc.) cell viability kits or reagents are popular for cancer research. Specifically, I would like to know about MTT, CCK-8, LDH, alamarBlue/Resazurin, trypan blue, and sulforhodamine B kits. It'll help a lot for my market research on which kit to use for OSCC cell lines!
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CellTiter-Glo® Luminescent Cell Viability Assay, promega
KeyTec® Luminescent Cell Viability Detection Kit,KeyTec
LDH-Glo™ Cytotoxicity Assay,promega
LDH Cytotoxicity Assay Kit,yeasen 40209ES76
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Have you ever observed that when measuring the viability of freshly thawed PBMC with trypan blue, the value is higher than with Annexin/PI staining or some other staining that takes into account early apoptotic cells? if yes, how large was the difference between the two methods? Which method is more reliable and will tell me the actual survival rate of the cells?
Thank you!
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Hello Daniela Lascu,
1. The trypan blue method for cell viability may serve as a good indicator of cell membrane integrity, but it is not an optimal indicator of cell viability.
It does not differentiate between viable cells and cells that are losing cell functions (i.e., detection of necrotic cells only). When using trypan blue, under bright field microscope, cells that are very lightly stained with trypan blue can be hard to differentiate from unstained cells, and thus hard to identify. It can therefore give a higher viability count than what is expected. It would be difficult to compare different methods due to varying experimental conditions.
2. Cells have a relatively fixed amount of DNA/RNA. So, the DNA-interacting fluorophores like acridine orange (AO) and 4′,6-diamidino-2-phenylindole (DAPI) will produce a uniform staining pattern for the quantification of cells, compared to the unspecified staining pattern when using bright-field based analysis.
AO is membrane-permeable and stains the total cell population (live and dead cells) whereas DAPI only stains the dead cell population. Therefore, fluorometric determination of cell viability using AO and DAPI provides superior accuracy to identify live and dead cells with reduced noise and variation. So, you try this method.
Best.
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Hello everyone.
I am looking for suggestions for HL60 cell line culture. Our lab is new to suspension cell culture. we bought the cell line from National Center for Cell Sciences (NCCS) Pune. Upon arrival, the cell was absolutely fine, having a doubling time of around 48 hours and we were able to freeze 10 vials with 10^6 cells/ml (90% FBS + 10% DMSO). But after 6 months in liquid Nitrogen when we started culturing from those vials it seems that the cells are not proliferating. We are seeing cell clumps forming and after 3-4 days all of these cells are dying (when checked using trypan blue). Can you help me with this problem? We are unable to point out the exact cause of the situation.
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You will see after 7 odd days the cells will be growing at a faster rate, until then do not split them. You can also see the colour of the media turning yellow, which is a good sign, that the media is being consumed.
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I have cultured PBMC and some RBC contaminant for 2 weeks in suspension and low attachment plate. From the very first day, I noticed that there are many cells that have already turned all black-ish or grey-ish color. I don't know why and I keep continuing my culture process because the sample is very limited and I don't want to waste any samples. This is very confusing as because I will do viability assay using trypan blue, but the cells were already black. So I can't see the blue-ish color that supposed to appear. For additional information, my medium is DMEM F12, EGF, FGF, CoCl2, ITS, Penstrep, and Amphotericin.
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Hello Rafli, your micrograph does appear to illustrate apoptosis in your cultures. I can's see any serum in your DMEM usulaly ~10%FBS? I would also suggest that you remove the amphotericin and titrate the cobalt, as I would anticipate both reagent are stressing/killing the cultures.
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In the picture derived from light microscopy, there are some red stains apart from the blue ones. I am wondering, what could it be?
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It happens to me as well. I am trying to figure it out. I think it is some type of cell debri.
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Currently I am trying abcam protocol for it.i checked the cell lysis by trypan blue stain which is more than 90 %. but I am facing following issues
1. unable to remove beta actin in mitochondrial fraction.
2. I am able to see mitochondria pellet (cell-1-1.5 X 10^7 cells) but the protein yield is very low 30 ug. and band of interest-SDHA is also very less on western blot compared to whole cell lysate when same amount of total protein (30 ug)
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Try to pellet down and resuspend into RIPA lysis and extraction buffer (ThermoFisher Sci cat#89900) for Western Blot.
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Dear All,
I need to standardize synthesized drug concentration (IC50) for my in vitro experiment but I can't adopt MTT, LDH, or trypan blue kind of assay because I'm working on normal lung epithelial cells and even in my study I need to inhibit the enzyme from the synthesized drug.
Hence kindly suggest a method/ protocol/ idea to determine the drug concentration.
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Since the enzyme is secreted, it's the extracellular enzyme that matters, so you don't have to worry about how well the inhibitor penetrates into the cells. Besides the IC50, you also have to worry about the inhibitor becoming bound to medium components such as albumin or lung surfactant, if those are present. This binding will reduce the potency of the inhibitor, because only free inhibitor is capable of inhibiting the enzyme.
The treatment dose should be determined experimentally by varying the inhibitor concentration and measuring the effect at each concentration. You can then relate the effect in the cell culture to the IC50 for enzyme inhibition, if you wish.
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I'm working on the immunity of tumor. I injected tumor cells into the mice subcutaneously. After harvesting the tumor, I used percoll and isolated immune cells. Then I added trypan blue and counted cells using a cell counting chamber before flow cytometry staining.
I found in most of the papers, they just said "Count cells for staining". But they didn't say count which kind of cells. Because I saw there were different type of cells in the microscope.
Do I need to count all living cells, no matter how different the shape they are. Or do I just count one specific cell?
Many thanks.
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If this is for flow cytometry staining, count all the cells! Disregard any difference in cell type.
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I need to use Trypan Blue solution 0,2% for my research but I can not find a correct formula to do this.
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Hi Febin,
Thanks for your answer! I will refer to your suggestion!
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As we are finding difficult to secure the Trypan Blue supplies in Colombia, i would like to know if there is any alternative reagent to Stain the PBMC cells.
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I am measuring multiple different parameters in cells using fluorescent channels in flow. I would also like to assess well viability. Given that I take the same volume from each well, and do not define a stopping event, can I compare live events between wells as a viability measure? I understand that not all cells that appear live in flow are viable, thus the use of viability stains. Do such stains have to be used to generate viability data from flow?
Thanks!
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Hi David,
The short answer is that the use of a viability dye is required. Even with taking the same volume from each well, without a viability dye when you compare data the number of "live cells" in the gate could be different for many reasons other than non-viable cells (changes to adhesion, cellular proliferation, etc.). I would recommend using a viability dye or cell death kit (ApoTracker / Annexin V) to attain the information you are looking for. Our lab uses the following dyes extensively for our flow analysis:
https://www.thermofisher.com/order/catalog/product/L10119 (1:1000 dilution after resuspension in 50ul DMSO)
thermofisher.com/order/catalog/product/L34966?SID=srch-srp-L34966 (1:100 dilution after resuspension in 50ul DMSO)
Alternatively, some labs use Propidium Iodide or DAPI to determine viability since these dyes cannot enter live non-fixed cells.
Hope this helps
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I need to use Trypan Blue 0,2% for my research, but I can not find a suitable formula to dilute powder.
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To prepare a Trypan Blue solution with a concentration of 0.2% from the powder, you can follow these steps:
  1. Weigh out 0.2 grams of Trypan Blue powder using a scale that can measure in milligrams.
  2. Add the Trypan Blue powder to a clean and dry glass or plastic container.
  3. Add 100 milliliters of a suitable solvent, such as sterile distilled water, to the container with the Trypan Blue powder.
  4. Stir the solution vigorously using a stir bar or a glass rod until the powder has completely dissolved.
  5. Filter the solution through a 0.22-micron filter to remove any impurities or particles that may interfere with cell counting.
  6. The Trypan Blue solution is now ready to use.
It is important to sterilize the solution before use, especially if it is going to be used for cell culture. You can sterilize the solution using a sterile filter or by autoclaving it at 121°C for 15 minutes.
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So I have been trying to standardise a zebrafish single cell suspension for downstream sequencing. I am consistently getting decent viability if I measure it via syto 9 and propidium iodide staining using a commercial single use hemocytometer.
But whenever I try to use the logos Luna cell counter or any other automated cell counter which uses 1:1 trypan blue (0.4%) staining, I am getting really poor results for the same exact samples. Any insight would be much appreciated.
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The difference in cell counts obtained from different methods could be due to several factors, such as differences in staining methods, equipment used, and cell size distribution.
Trypan blue staining is commonly used for live/dead cell discrimination and is based on the principle that live cells exclude the dye while dead cells take up the dye and become visible under a microscope. Syto 9 and propidium iodide staining can also be used for live/dead cell discrimination, but with different mechanisms. Syto 9 is a membrane-permeant dye that stains all cells, while propidium iodide is a membrane-impermeant dye that stains only dead cells with compromised membranes. Therefore, the staining mechanisms of these dyes differ from that of trypan blue, which could explain the differences in cell counts obtained from different methods.
Additionally, automated cell counters use different algorithms and image analysis techniques to identify and count cells. It is possible that the Luna cell counter or other automated cell counters are not optimized for zebrafish cells or for the specific suspension conditions used in your experiment, leading to inaccurate counts.
Finally, it is important to note that the size distribution of cells in the sample can also affect the accuracy of cell counts. Automated cell counters may not be as accurate for cells that are very large or very small, as they may not be properly detected or counted.
To troubleshoot this issue, you could try comparing the cell counts obtained from different methods for different dilutions of the same cell suspension to see if the discrepancies are more or less pronounced at different cell densities. Additionally, you could try optimizing the staining and counting conditions for the specific cell type and suspension conditions you are working with. If you are still experiencing discrepancies, you may want to consult with technical support from the manufacturer of the automated cell counter or seek advice from other researchers who have experience with zebrafish single cell sequencing.
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My lab is looking to purchase a cell counter for tissue culture and I was hoping you guys might have recommendations for ones that you loved (or hated)? At a minimum we’d need one capable of counting Trypan blue cells, but ones with fluorescence capabilities might also have use for us.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have!!
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There are several cell counters on the market that can perform cell counting for tissue culture, including those capable of counting Trypan blue cells and those with fluorescence capabilities. Here are a few options that you might consider:
  1. Countess II FL Automated Cell Counter: This cell counter from Thermo Fisher Scientific has fluorescence capabilities and can perform live/dead cell discrimination, cell size measurements, and fluorescent protein expression analysis. It is also designed for high-throughput counting and has a user-friendly touchscreen interface.
  2. Nexcelom Cellometer Auto T4: This cell counter from Nexcelom Bioscience is capable of counting Trypan blue cells and has fluorescence capabilities. It also has a built-in fluorescence filter wheel and can analyze cells in suspension or adherent cells.
  3. LUNA-FL Dual Fluorescence Cell Counter: This cell counter from Logos Biosystems can perform fluorescence and brightfield cell counting, cell viability analysis, and cell size measurements. It has a compact design, a user-friendly touchscreen interface, and is capable of analyzing both suspension and adherent cells.
  4. Invitrogen EVOS M5000 Cell Imaging System: This cell counter from Thermo Fisher Scientific has fluorescence capabilities and can perform live/dead cell discrimination, cell size measurements, and fluorescent protein expression analysis. It also has a built-in digital camera and can capture high-resolution images of cells for further analysis.
  5. Bio-Rad TC20 Automated Cell Counter: This cell counter from Bio-Rad Laboratories can count Trypan blue cells and has a user-friendly touchscreen interface. It can also analyze cell viability, cell size, and cell concentration, and has the option to save and export data for further analysis.
These are just a few options to consider. The best choice for your lab will depend on your specific needs, budget, and workflow. It may be helpful to read reviews and compare the features of each cell counter before making a decision.
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Due to the hazard classification of trypan blue we need to replace it with something less harmful and Erythrocin B seem to be a valid option but I find no detailed description on how to use it. E.g. how to dilute the Erythrocin B powder or is it available as a liquid. Has anyone done a validation comparing EB stain vs trypan blue. Is there someone that use Erythrocin B routinely for manual cell counting?
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Many labs just use trypan blue. I have never heard of this second option. Trypan blue is fairly cheap and you do not use a lot per sample, although I understand your question.
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Trypan blue is used to stain dead cells and count them using a heamocytometer. Is it possible to perform this in a 96-well plate similar to the MTT assay? 
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Dear Sir,
Please refer to the following protocol for cell viability check using Trypan Blue colorimetric assay:
Hope this helps.
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Hi! I'm trying to quench fitc fluoresc from Cryptococcus stained with FITC ( at 0,1mM in PBS, 30min, RT) using trypan blue at different concetrations, up to 0,4%.
I'm trying to padronize a phagocytosis experiment by FACS in RAW264.7 mac cell line. First Crypto are stained, washed and co cultured with RAW. The assay looks to differentiate phacocytosed funghi from attached ones by quenching fitc fluoresc from cellls that were not internalized using Trypan blue followed by aquisition by FACS. The point is that , althought it seems to be a something easy, I canot see a substantial efect in fitc quench other than a low reduction in median fluorec intensity compared to not stained cells.
Anyone have an ideia of what might be going on?
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I'm not really sure if the assay is really a assay that you can determin by FACS analysis due to high dilution in the FACS.
I think it's a microscope based assay. Nontheless, I would start anyway with a microscope to check some points:
1. Are you Cryptos efficiently stained? can you see them in aflourescence microscope?
2. How long are you incubating your RAW cells and are you able to see the FITC within the RAW in a flourescence microscope?
You should be able to see some FITC pos Cryptos within the cells and some surrounding which were not washed away (that should be quenched by the addition of trypan blue).
3. I would suggest to counter stain the RAWs with a CellTracker (i.e. a red one), incubate the cells with the FITC stained bacteria, wash them away after a certain time period, add the trypan blue solution to quench leftover non phagocytosed bacteria. Than I would aquire a set of images I would determine the RAW cells with the red channel and subsequently determine the Cryptos per cell in ImageJ.
best wishes
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After PBMC isolation and washing, I count the cells of PBMC. Most of the time RBCs exist in the pellet and when I count the total PBMC I am not sure if the counted cells were RBCs or lymphocytes. If RBCs are also stained by Trypan Blue can we distinguish them from other cells to not count them?
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RBC do stain with trypan blue. You can avoid RBC contamination by using an RBC lysis buffer or isolating your PBMCs using gradient centrifugation. If you are using an automated cell counter there really isn't a way to avoid them being counted once they are in your sample.
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Actually I was trying to encapsulate Trypan blue dye in NIPAM microgel for that I mixed certain amount of NIPAM microgel crystals with 10 ml solution of Trypan blue dye solution? stirr for 20 hours and evaporated water at 60 oC in oven. Before doing this, major peak of absorbance of dye was around 580 nm but after adding into NIPAM it was shifted to 480 nm. I need your great suggestions. Advance thanks for precious time.
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Thank you Adam for your precious time.
1-In case of only Trypan blue dye, the major peak of maximum absorbance was around 580nm. However, in case of dye-NIPAM max. absorbance peak was shifted to 480 nm. Basically, I heated NIPAM-dye at 50 oC then cool down to room temperature. Then centrifuge it and use supernatant for checking absorbance. 2-Concentration of NIPAM microgel was very low and microgels particles might be settle down during centrifugation.
3- I did not control pH of this mixture.
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Dear all,
We have performed a classical trypan blue stainning. We would need to decolore it, but by using no toxic products. Do you know if alternatives to chloro hydrate decoloration are existing?
Thank you very much.
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Finally we did not use trypan blue anymore, but we found an alternative to clear roots before stainning (three days incubation with K0H 20%). Hope it can be useful for you. Best regards.
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I am trying to undergo a cell viability assay with trypan blue staining. I originally got cell suspension by pipetting and observe cells after staining on the hemocytometer.
But I found out my cell seems too fragile after treatment, therefore, I can't see any of the cells under the microscope. (but the cells in the control group are still visible under the microscope, and the cells in the treatment group are still visible in the original wells.)
Thus, I would like to ask if anyone tried to stain cells with trypan blue directly in the well?
Thanks a lot for you answering it.
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If you are comparing control and treated adherent cells, and your cultures are not too dense to count, staining and counting in the dish is fine:
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Hello, I am doing a time course apoptosis assay with AnnexinV following IC60 drug treatment for 24, 48 and 72hr. Through Trypan blue counts we start to see cell death at 48hr. I am seeing a 2X increase in early apoptotic cells in drug treatment relative to DMSO at both 24hr and 48hr. The 48hr timepoint also has a slight increase in late apoptotic cells (1.3X).
At the 72hr timepoint the increase in early apoptotic cells is still present but the late apoptotic cells are the same as the DMSO.
Is it possible that the 72hr timepoint is too long and all the late apoptotic cells are now just debris and thus underestimating the amount of late apoptotic cells?
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As you know during early stages of apoptosis, changes occur at the cell surface. One of the initial alterations is the translocation of phosphatidylserine (PS) from the inner side of the plasma membrane to the outer layer, exposing PS at the surface of the cell.
The Annexin V is a 35.8kDa, Ca2+ -dependent phospholipid-binding protein with a high affinity for PS, making labeled annexin an excellent detection agent. Annexin-V-FLUOS binds in a Ca2+-dependent manner to negatively charged phospholipid surfaces, and shows high specificity for phosphatidylserine. Therefore, it stains apoptotic and necrotic cells.
The initiation, progression and completion of apoptotic pathways are dependent on the type of drug used for induction and the cell stage/types exposed to that drugs. Even the level of insult generated by any drug/experimental conditions may also decides the apoptotic pathway to be initiated or the type of death pathways like apoptosis, autophagy, necroptosis, necrosis etc is to be operated.
In your experiment, you are trying to analyze the time-course effect of drug of your interest and getting cell death after 48 hrs (Trypan blue). You are right, all the cells may not take drug insult in the same manner. Few cells may enter in the apoptosis quickly but other may resist or tolerate and undergo apoptosis bit later.
Hence, you may not see all cells undergoing apoptosis in a synchronized manner. Cells that undergo apoptosis quickly, may die early and debris can be seen even after 48 hrs (in your case). On the other hand, other cells may show late apoptotic features after 72 hrs.
Indeed, it is very difficult to see real time changes (early apoptosis, late apoptosis, necrosis) after 48 as well as 72 hrs. Better would be to find out the time when you start getting cell death. Once it is known, try to expose the cells till that time and then remove the cells from drug medium in order to analyze the number of cells showing early apoptosis, late apoptosis, necrosis etc.
In addition, I would suggest that you can also go for (EtBr/AO) staining and on the basis of color changes (green-No apoptosis, Yellow-Early apoptosis, Orange-Late apoptosis and red-cell death (may also be necrosis) can easily be analyzed. We have established and published this protocol in a highly reputed international journals. Its very economical and easy/quick to conduct the experiments.
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Hello. So I had seeded some 48-well plates with 70,000 cells/well (human osteoprogenitor) on a calcium phosphate substrate scaffold.
After 24 hours I wanted to study the overall attachment so basically I incubated I removed the scaffolds from the wells and placed in to a new well plate.
I washed with PBS and then incubated in a trypsin 1x solution for 30 minutes to allow for the cells to deattach from the scaffold.
I then neutralized with media and centrifuged the solution to form the smallest dot sized pellet.
I removed the solution and reconstituted in 1 mL of media and then using 10 uL of the solution, mixed it with 10uL of trypan blue.
Transferred 10 uL to side A and side B of a chambress counting slide and used the corresponding automated cell counter by life technologies to count the cells.
I somehow got a bigger number - for example 4.5x10^5 cells alive/ mL
The time point was only 24 hours so it’s not possible that the cells divided that quickly and multiplex in that number so fast.
Can someone please help me understand the principles behind automated cell counting because I believe the machine maybe possibly multiplying by a factor to estimate the number of cells? Please help because clearly the machine won’t count cells which aren’t there, I just don’t understand why it’s spitting out such larger numbers.
Please it’s my last experiment of my thesis and I just need a little help please.
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Dear researcher
See the following papers method
Cell viability analysis using trypan blue: manual and automated methods
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I am trying to grow some Sf9 cells but after incubation at 27 degrees and shaking at 125rpm for 2 days, they all die or at least majority of them are dead.
I grew a 3mL culture (SF900II media) in at 125mL Baffled Erlenmeyer Flasks with initial density of 1.5mil cells/mL (from frozen stock) so after diluting it to 3mL, the cell density becomes 500000 cells/mL. The SF900II media that I used had gentamycin added to it (I added 200uL of 10mg/mL Gentamycin to 1L of media).
Before growing them in the flask as suspension culture, I counted the cells and most of them are alive with some dead. Then, I centrifuged them at 500g for 5mins, removed the supernatant to get rid of the DMSO and resuspended them in 3mL of SF900II medium with gentamycin in it. I then transfer them into a 125mL Baffled Erlenmeyer flask and incubate them in a incubator at 27 degree, shaking at 125rpm for 2 days.
After 2 days, I took 10uL of the cells and added 10uL of Trypan Blue and counted the cells immediately after that. However, most of them were dead (most of them were stained blue) and I am left with around 40000 cells/mL.
Can anyone tell me why is this happening and how I can solve it?
Thank you very much.
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Do you grow 3ml in a 125ml flask?
the volume is too low. Should be ~20ml in the flask.
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I am currently work with antifungal study. I will be doing spore counting by using hemocytometer. I have searched some info that trypan blue can be used to differentiate live and dead cells. However, is this worked on fungal spores too? Any reference or guidelines about this? Is there any other methods can be used for spore counting?
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it cannot. Depending on the fungi, sometimes the FUN-1 probe coupled with calcofluor white could help you to differentiate the viable and non-viable spores.
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I am working with a herbal extract and currently attempting to determine the appropriate concentration to use for further work, provided it does not cause cell-death- using cellular viability for determining the same.
Unfortunately, my extract is reacting with MTT, leading to the formation of formazon (as evidenced by the colour-change even in the absence of cells). It would be great if any of you could recommend an alternative protocol to check cell-viability (apart from trypan blue assay).
Thanks!
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There are several cell viability assays. They are grouped as follows.
Tetrazolium Reduction Assays
A variety of tetrazolium compounds have been used to detect viable cells. The most commonly used compounds include: MTT, MTS, XTT, and WST-1. These compounds fall into two basic categories:
1) MTT which is positively charged and readily penetrates viable eukaryotic cells.
2) MTS, XTT, and WST-1 which are negatively charged and do not readily penetrate cells. The latter class (MTS, XTT, WST-1) are typically used with an intermediate electron acceptor that can transfer electrons from the cytoplasm or plasma membrane to facilitate the reduction of the tetrazolium into the colored formazan product.
You may not be able to use the above assays as your herbal extract could react with tetrazolium salts.
As an alternative you can use:
1. Resazurin reduction assay:
Resazurin is a cell permeable redox indicator that can be used to monitor viable cell number with protocols similar to those utilizing the tetrazolium compounds. Resazurin can be dissolved in physiological buffers (resulting in a deep blue colored solution) and added directly to cells in culture in a homogeneous format. Viable cells with active metabolism can reduce resazurin into the resorufin product which is pink and fluorescent. For instance, the Alamar Blue assay.
2. ATP Assay:
The measurement of ATP using firefly luciferase is the most commonly applied method for estimating the number of viable cells. ATP has been widely accepted as a valid marker of viable cells. When cells lose membrane integrity, they lose the ability to synthesize ATP and endogenous ATPases rapidly deplete any remaining ATP from the cytoplasm. The ATP detection reagent contains detergent to lyse the cells, ATPase inhibitors to stabilize the ATP that is released from the lysed cells, luciferin as a substrate, and the stable form of luciferase to catalyze the reaction that generates photons of light.
The ATP assay has the advantage that you do not have to rely on an incubation step with a population of viable cells to convert a substrate (such a tetrazolium or resazurin) into a colored compound. This also eliminates a plate handling step because you do not have to return cells to the incubator to generate signal. For instance, you can use commercially available CellTiter-Glo® Luminescent Cell Viability Assay.
3. The sulforhodamine B (SRB) assay:
Sulforhodamine B, an anionic aminoxanthene dye, can form an electrostatic complex with the basic amino acid residues of proteins under moderately acidic conditions, which provides a sensitive linear response with cell number and cellular protein measured at cellular densities ranging from 1 to 200% of confluence. The SRB assay possesses a non-destructive and indefinitely stable colorimetric end point, and the color development is rapid and stable and is readily measured at absorbance between 560 and 580nm.
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I thawed some MCF-7 cells 3.5 days ago and seeded them into an untreated T75 flask. The medium used was DMEM with 10% FBS, 1% pen/strep, and 0.1% mycozap, all filtered. According to trypan blue assessment by Countess, I had a total of ~20 million cells in 10mL of media with 89% viability at the time of seeding.
By microscopy, I can see that they aren't adhering; cells are still floating around when I move the flask. Is anything suspect about these? Am I seeding too high a concentration?
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Hi Ralph,
Agree with previous recommendations. I just do not understand why you used an untreated flask. In my experince, MCF-7 cells are easy to work with. But, like other adherent cells, they need to be subcultured in tissue culture-treated flasks/dishes or ECM-coated ones.
And looking at the video, they do not look healthy to me. I might be wrong but I see signs of dehydration and shrinking membrane. And also some little black bodies that look suspicious to be contaminations.
You may want to optimize the freezing/thawing ingredient/procedure for future batches too. Let me know to share mine here if you want.
Good luck!
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Hello,
I just started to work with LS180 cells. I used EMEM supplemented with 10% FBS and 1% penicillin-streptomycin to culture them. When I wanted to passage the cells, I realized the majority of the cells have not been attached! So, I decided to re-seed the floating cells in new flask and see whether they are attached or not. After 2 days they were again suspended in the media! To check the viability of floating cells, I used Trypan Blue and counted the percentage of dead cells. As I expected the number of alive cells was less than 50%.
I don't know what is the reason for this happening! These cells are supposed to be adherent, however in my culture, they are not!
Please share with me your opinions if you have experinece.
Many thanks in advance
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Hi:) I have the same problem with my LS180. Do you know now, what was the reason in your case?
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Assuming I want to passage my MCF-7 cells only once a week with one or two media changes over the rest of the week, does anybody know what concentration (by trypan blue assessment) should I seed into my next passage?
I am using DMEM with 10% FBS, 1% penstrep, 0.1% antimycobacterium, in a 5% CO2 incubator.
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Much thanks for the answers!
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Recently, I was trying to evaluate the anti-proliferation activity of a new synthesis compound.
I used the MTT assay to determine the effective concentration at first. Then, I used the effective concentration to perform a trypan blue assay to calculate the number of cells and observed the cell type.
However, the inhibition result of the trypan blue assay is not consistent with the result of the MTT assay.
My question is why did it happen? Is there any other problem I neglected?
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I believe this observation might be explained by the different mechanisms underlying trypan blue and MTT assays. For example, one compound might affect the metabolic activity (measured by MTT) but not affect membrane integrity (trypan blue).
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I have a sample of Trypan Blue that looks like a tangle of threads in blue and transparent background, but I am not sure if that is what the sample should look like or if it is contaminated and produced something like a fungal hyphae.
I hope you can help me...
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First of all what kind of cells do you stain, and which magnification is used in this photo? Normally, trypan blue is used as a viability stain in combination with a hemacytometer or an automated cell counter. After staining, dead cells are stained blue because trypan blue can only permeate damaged cell membranes. Viable cells remain unstained. The count must be performed after 3-5 minutes after staining since the cell start to die quickly when prepared on the the slide.
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Suppose I've given u two samples in which one sample contains live cell and other sample contains dead mammalian cells (Example CHO), Since both the samples are not labelled, I'ld like to know which sample is live cells and which sample is dead cells.
One method i know is :
1) Add trypan blue and observe under microscope, So that live cells appear blue whereas dead cells appear transparent (i.e. no color).
2) Turbidity of live cells increases with time whereas dead cells remain same.
I'ld like to know what all other methods are there to distinguish live cells from dead cells ?
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I would like to just make a correction in your statement about trypan blue. Trypan blue dye will be excluded from membrane-intact live cells but can enter and concentrate in membrane-compromised dead cells, rendering the dead cells dark blue.
You can use cell-impermeant DNA binding dye, such as propidium iodide. A healthy living cell has an intact cell membrane and will act as a barrier to the dye so it cannot enter the cell. A dead cell has a compromised cell membrane, and it will allow the dye into the cell where it will bind to the DNA and become fluorescent. The dead cells therefore will be positive, and the live cells will be negative.
You can also use the live/dead fixable stains, also known as amine reactive dyes. This also works using the principle of cell membrane integrity, where amines on the outside of a living cell with react with the amine-reactive dye and have a dim fluorescence, while a dead cell with a compromised membrane will allow the dye into the cell where it will react with amines throughout the cell resulting in a bright fluorescence.
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I am having autofluorescence issues that overlap the actual fluorescence from my antibodies. I work on tissue of arteries with atherosclerotic plaques that I fix and store in a solution containing formalin. One solution would be to use brighter fluorophores (Brilliant violet, PE or Texas Red) but is there any way to quench this autofluorescence by using for example trypan blue that I would load on my cells just before flow cytometry analysis? For info, I am currently using AF405, AF488, AF594 and AF680 channels.
Any advice or tip would be welcome,
Thank you !
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Hello, Valentin Blanchard
In my somewhat limited experience, difference in internal signals after quenching is negligible. I tried comparing the phagocytosis assay in 4 degrees celsius(no phagocytosis, i.e., external signal only) and 37 degrees(internal signal only). There is a shift in the fluorescence in 4 degrees, but not in 37 degrees. I hadn't had the chance to refine my experiment to the point where I've caught a phase of partly external, partly internal-signals, because I've turned to using pHrhodo-conjugated particles as my main approach.
I've never quantified fluorescence derived from Trypan Blue, I might need to check on that.
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Hello,
I will use several types of fixations on 8505C thyroid cancer cell line. Those fixations are methanol, ethanol, %4 PFA and few more. My problem here is that how can i know which type of fixation gives me better results. I just want to make sure that my cells are intact and attached the surface of 24 well plate. I will use the materials such as crystaI blue and trypan blue which I already have since I do not want to buy a kit.
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Depending on the antigen the efficiency of the technique will vary. Most low molecular weight proteins, surface markers and enzymes are fixed using 4% (w/v) Paraformaldehyde or 10% Neutral-buffered formalin (NBF). Delicate tissues are fixed using Bouin's fixative and Ice cold acetone (100%) or methanol (100%) are for large proteins.
Most fixation techniques wont efface adherent cells. And as long as the fixation is not overdone there is no need to check if the cells are intact.
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Hello. I am currently developing a protocol for a neutrophil phagocytosis assay using flow cytometry. We will use a GFP-expressing bacteria. Can anyone tell me if the addition of trypan blue will quench the GFP-signal of the non-internalized bacteria? I know trypan blue is used to quench the signal of fluorescently labeled extra-cellular antibodies, but I wasn't sure if it would work if the fluorescent signal was coming from protein inside the bacteria?
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Did you try to just quench fluorescence of GFP-bacteria (by themselves, no need for neutrophils) with trypan blue?
I would like to try phagocytosis with GFP-yeast, and quenching free yeast.
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Hi! I have conjugated a CD34-FITC antibody to 80 nm gold particles. When I stain the cells with the conjugate, I get high rates of dead cells when measuring with trypan blue staining. The ratio of dead cells in the sample ranges between 30%-70% depending on the dilution (the more concentrated the antibody solution, the higher the death rate). Has anyone experienced similar events? How did you solve the issue?
Thank you in advance!
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Hi Daniela Lascu . It could be that there is something in the Au-Ab particle prep that is killing the cells. You could try gel filtration or dialysis to exchange the particle solution with a physiological buffer.
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Dear People of Research Gate,
I am working on bringing a cytotoxicity assay by USP <87> into our lab. I've never worked with L929 cell line, but I think I have it mostly figured out. I was able to passage and properly cryopreserve cells while maintaining a ~90% viability.
I was curious if anyone could help me with running the oldschool USP 87 cytotoxicity protocol - we need to run that before we can integrate better colorimetric assays. I currently use Trypan blue.
Any advice or feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Dear Tim!
Please You look at the following links:
Cytotoxicity Growth Inhibition Test in L929 Mouse ... -
stratasys.com › Ultem-1010-Cytotox-Final-Report
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I am planning on assessing cell viability using trypan blue exclusion on some lung fibroblasts. Since these cells have 2 mL of media on top of them, I will have to first collect the media, spin this down, aspirate, and then add trypsinized/detached cells from the plate. Is there a best speed (xg) and time at which to centrifuge the media to pellet the cells (alive and dead) as well as the trypsinized cells if I need to concentrate them more for counting?
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You can use a centrifuge speed of 2000 rpm for 5 mins or 1500 rpm for 10 mins. If you need the speed in g you can use the formula given below.
g Force (RCF) = (rpm)2 × 1.118 × 10-5 × r
r = rotational radius (cm)
Higher centrifuge speeds can kill the cells. Though you will be able to pellet down the dead cells at higher centrifuge speeds, more live cells are likely to die. So I suggest you use the above mentioned centrifuge speeds.
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I performed a study to determine if carbon dots are cytotoxic on 2 cell lines so I did 2 biologic replicates each one with triplicates of 2 assays MTT and Trypan blue, I applied 4 different concentrations and negative and positive controls.
I don't know which statistical test I should use, two way ANOVA, one way ANOVA, Kruskal Wallis? Neither I know if the data is parametric or not, how can I know that?
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Dear Maria!
The choice of statistical test depends on the goals of your experiment. If you want to compare to compare each concentration in the MTT and trypan blue test with control separately, you can use the student's test. If you are comparing all four concentrations and control with each other in MTT and the test with trypan blue, then you should use ANOVA one-way.
Since you have only 4 concentrations and three repetitions - then most likely the data will be nonparametric - then you should choose ANOVA one way non-parametric criterion. For example, for statistics, I use the program GraphPad Prism.
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Hi everyone,
I just checked sigma website and found Trypan Blue powder got two different versions: 40% and 60% in terms of dye content. When I googled, usually what people say is we just need to weigh 4mg powder and dissolve into 1ml PBS buffer to constitute 0.4% TB solution. I am quite confused as if we have these two different version of TB powder, do we need to take into account the percentage of the dye content within the TB powder? If so, what shall I do to get 0.4% in both case?
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Dear Nursyaa, when purity of substances are lower that weigh absolute, is need to do correction. Having a contents in dye about 40%, for obtain a 0.4 g (0.4%) dye in 100 ml solution, you should to weigh 1 g of dye in 100 ml of appropriate solvent (100 x 0.4/40), whereas if you own a dye that contained to 60%, for you have a 0.4% concentration, has to dissolve 0.667 g of the dye in 100 mls of solvent (100 x 0.4/60).
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Hello,
I have a problem with adhesion of astrocyte C8-D1A line cells. After thawing, the cells are alive (in trypan blue staining, more than 95% viability). But they don't adhese to the bottle. Increasing FBS to 20% did not help. Iculture them on NUNC Delta-surface bottles. I would like to add that after buying from the ATCC collection, they stuck poorly, but grew. I managed to bank in liquid nitrogen and did a number of experiments. The problem appeared after I thawed the ampoules frozen by me. Does anyone have any experience with this? What could be wrong?
Thank you for your help,
Małgorzata
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Hi Małgorzata,
We haven't had trouble with adhesion, but they did have a hard time growing when we first started them. We were using just general high glucose DMEM with 10% FBS (and P/S), but when we added glutamine (which is in the ATCC recommended media) they did a lot better.
But since you're using the ATCC DMEM that shouldn't be your problem. Maybe try a new batch of media?
Alternatively, you could try coating your plates with poly-L-lysine or something similar. That should probably make them stick and then you can always see if they behave like normal after growing them for a while.
I hope you get this issue resolved soon!
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I am looking for some expertise on culturing MCF7s. I purchased them from ATCC and I have been following all media and culture conditions. Media is EMEM with 10% FBS and 10ug/mL of insulin. When I plated them post thaw, they had a lot of suspension cells with a few settled colonies. I usually spin down the suspension cells and add back to the flask when I am doing a media change. I have passaged them two times now and I still see the floating suspension clumps. I also did trypan blue staining and there are about 34% live cells in the suspension. I feel it shouldn't take this long to settle down. I have now passaged them twice now and I still see the floating colonies. How long do they take to get to a fully adherent monolayer?
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I had a similar problem with HEK293T cells at the end of last year. After doing some research, I washed my cells twice in PBS before passaging. After three passages, there were no more suspension cells and my adhered cells were able to form a healthy monolayer. I would recommend you try the same approach!
If possible, please let me know your findings as I would be interested to know if we had the same issue.
All the best.
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What do these substances stain exactly?
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Dear Dr. Anton Kindt,
Hi,
The staining results from all of Toluidine blue O, Cotton blue, Safranin O, Trypan blue & Sheafer blue are usually as the same and perfect.
Best regards,
Saeed
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Dear All,
I am growing rice plants in the greenhouse. These plants were inoculated with arbuscular mycorrhizal community with 500 spores/kg dry soil. The rice plant is 45 days old. I took rice root samples for checking the infection of arbuscular mycorrhiza in the root stained by trypan blue 0,01%. When i checked the infection of arbuscular mycorrhiza in the rice root, I recognized these infected forms which was not as I was expected. I would like to know who they were in the pictures. Could you please help me to identify the name of the spores inside the rice root. Thanks you very much in advance.
Yours sincerely,
Xuan Do Thi
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I'm pretty sure they are mostly macrophages since after a 2 hour incubation in M199 they are stuck with pseudopodia. My slides just aren't pretty enough for me. I'm using Fisherbrand Wight-Giemsa Stain on rabbit cells from a peritoneal wash (days after drawing monocytes to the location with a peritoneal proteose peptone injection). But my concern is that at some point my counts are off because I can't distinguish between macrophages and other large multi-nucleated cells.
My method:
20uL of 10^6 Trypan blue visualized cells are spread, dried using a Bunsen burner, and then fixed with Methanol for 60s.
Slide is flooded with 1mL Wright-Giemsa Stain and incubated 2 minutes.
Add 1.5mL 1X PBS at pH 7. Gently tipped to mix, for 1 minute.
Stands for 2min.
Rinsed well with De-Ionized water.
Dried and visualized at 400X.
Does it have to air dry rather than use a flame?
I am just having a hard time with the outer membranes. Should I use a different method?
Any help is appreciated!
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This is a common problem if the stain used is old, or not mixed properly if using after a long time. I would suggest, you use a fresh bottle of stain (if using ready-made) or just make a new stock. We prepare Giemsa stain and when used after 4-6 months, we usually don't get good staining.
Give it a shot.
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Hi there,
I'm trying to build a killing curve for HEK-293T towards hygromycin B for the following transfection experiment. I plated the cell at 1.3X10^5 cell/well in the 24 well plates the night before I add the antibiotic. The cell never reached higher than 80% confluence due to the abx until I saw the cell detachment. After 4 days of culture with hygromycin B, the wells that abx concentration was higher than 200ug/ml have cell detached and the cells were floating like a mat in the well. I took the supernatant with the cells and count them with trypan blue but most detached cells were alive. I am a bit confused if I should consider this condition as the cells were killed or they are alive? How do I set the optimal selection abx concentration if this floating cell occurs? Thank you so much for your time!
Best,
Yi
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I am experiencing the same thing! Did you find out the answer?
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TOTO-3 revealed 'abnormal' nuclei in human fibroblasts from a patient with an alpha-synuclein triplication. Could this be because of an infection or is it possibly because of the cell line? The cells grow without any problems in culture. While counting the cells before setting up experiments (with trypan blue), only a small percentage of the cells was dead. At first sight, the cells look healthy but the nuclear staining suggests otherwise. Does anyone have experience with this?
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Alexandr Chernov Thank you for your answer! Which infection do you think this can be? They are Mycoplasma negative and a bacterial infection is unlikely I think because the medium looks perfectly fine, there is nothing to see under the light microscope and we use penstrep in our medium. The cells were ordered from RUCDR (now IBX).
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I am working with HMC-1 cells and I want to measure live/dead cell numbers after treatment but for very short time (i.e. 5 minutes up to one hour). This may be tricky since these cells are floating cells and I have an idea on how to perform this study but I have a few questions:
1. seed cells in 48-well plate at 5x10^5 cells/ml
2. let rest few hours
3. add treatment at desired dilutions
4. after each time points, can I take an aliquot of cells (i.e. 10uL) directly out of the well and and mix with trypan blue at 1:1 dilution to count cells? Should I count each replicate separately to get an average of live/dead? I plan on counting using the tC20 automated cell counter, is that reliable for this method?
Does anyone know of a way to stain these cells with trypan blue for example to visualize cell death over short time?
Thank you.
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Good Day!
1.If these cells are floating, you can take 10 μl of the suspension and add trypan blue there.
2. To obtain the average value of cell death, it is necessary to count each repeat separately.
3. I had problems with TC20, because in the protocol the boundaries of cell sizes were constantly getting confused and if there were large or small cells or their clusters, then TC20 did not take them into account. For a rough estimate, you can of course use TC20.
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I am working with erythrocytes of mice, to know the effect of Benzo alpha Pyrene on erythrocytes in vitro. Can i perform Trypan Blue exclusion assay to determine the cell viabilities?
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ok mam can you suggest any research article related to erythrocytes and trypan blue exclusion assays?
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I have 50 mL of volume at the beginning of the culture and I just can take samples of 1 mL per day, so there are very few cells to count them using trypan blue (after washing with PBS and detaching with Tryple).
I've tried using Violet Crystal, but it gives me inconsistent results along the days that I've followed the culture.
Does anyone a better protocol, idea or suggestion?
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Dear Fauzi Mb Could you please share your protocol for counting cells with presto Blue assay? How do you do the standard curve to move from fluorescence to a cell number? Thank you in advance!
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I am currently using MRC-5 cell lines and they are at 17th passage. I tried to collect and count them via trypan blue cell counting but I could not see enough cells even though they looked fine in the microscope. I used almost 16 T-25 flasks but couldn't catch enough cells. What could be the problem?
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Christopher L Pinder I am sorry for the late reply. Actually, I realized that they are very adherent and checked the flasks but didn't see a lot. Also, their growth are not bad but started to multiply very slowly. Could they have reached senescence at 17th passage?
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I need to differentiate internalised FitC labeled POS and external surface bound using microscopy on retinal pigment epithelium. I tried quenching with 0.4% trypan blue for 10 min and washing with PBS like a few protocols suggest, but we are not seeing a difference. I understand trypan blue needs to be present to quench the FitC signal, but can't exceed 30 minutes which is not feasible with microscopy. Any help would be appreciated.
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Adding Trypan blue (0.4%) to the sample just before visualization will help in minimizing toxicity issues while quenching surface fluorescence for you to quantify internalized FITC labelled POS. There is no need to wash the cells after adding TB. As you will be reading your sample straight way after adding TB, there won’t be any toxicity issue to your cells due of TB. (Add TB sample by sample, not to all sample (if you have many) at a time). TB also quenches the autofluorescence (if at all any by FITC)
Same can be done with FACS (if at all FACS based analysis is your choice). Advantage here is that TB fluoresces in our FL4 channel while FITC in FL1 channel. So, there won’t be any masking of FITC signal. If you got to any other dye for any other reason, make sure avoid those that fluoresces in FL4 channel as those can be masked by TB.
Hope it helps
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I’ve been using a biorad TC10 cell counter and trypan blue to count the cell density.
I wonder if it keeps counting dead cells or not.
For example, if I had 50% viability of 1e6 cells, 5e5 cells are already dead. Then do the dead cells keep affecting counting on next day? or forever?
And is it possible to leave only live cells by spin down? If possible, how many g do you use for that?
BY
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Trypan blue assay basically determines the number of dead and live cells in your present sample. For suspension cell cultures, you can easily have live cells only by separating them from dead cells through centrifugation in either 15 ml or 50 ml falcon tube at 150g for 5 minutes. For adherent cells, the dead cells always float in the medium and therefore u can discard the old culture medium and wash them with 1xPBS and then incubate them with trypsin for 3 min in the incubator. Once 3 min is elapsed use cell scrapper to remove remaining cells and add your fresh culture medium to neutralize trypsin and collect cell suspension into 15 ml falcon tube and centrifuge them. discard supernatant and resuspend pellet in 1 ml fresh media and do cell counting again.
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Due to the Covid -19 , I'm unable to get supply of chemicals. At the moment, I have only left Trypan Blue with me. Is it possible for me to use Trypan Blue to stain fungus? Please help me with my doubts?
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Hi friend,
The answer is yes.
Several authors have used 'trypan blue' for staining fungi and the earliest paper I found dates back to 1952.
Some other papers:
Hope this helps !
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Hello everyone!
I would like to ask you, if it's possible to count viable cells before we freeze them (in PBS, isolated cells from lymph nodes etc.) using flow cytometry instead of manual counting with Hemocytometer ( Neubauer chamber ) and marking cells with Trypan Blue?
Thank you in advance.
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You only want to know how many viable cells (% viability) you have? If the answer is yes, yes you can do flow or any technique to check viability, MTT, WST, or trypan. The people do trypan because is quick, cheap and easy, not requires expensive equipments, etc. If you want to do flow because you have huge quantity of samples to analyze (is the only reason I could select flow vs trypan for this purpose) you can do it, but not stain with trypan, you could use DAPI as common live/dead stainning (you could do more refine protocols such as PI if you are going to do flow if you want).
Moreover, you said you are going to freeze in PBS. I not understand this step, if you freeze in PBS, you are not going to have viable cells anymore, you have to freeze in FBS + DMSO (or medium + DMSO). If you want to freeze to extract nucleic acids or protein you have other better options than PBS.
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usually, Trypan blue stain is applied before seeding cells in 96 wells plate and cells are count by hemocytometer. I am confused about how cells will be counted in 96 wells plate by trypan blue stain after drugs or inhibitor treatment.
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I would treat your cells with the drug/inhibitor in the 96 well plates and measure release of LDH by treated versus untreated cells to assess the effect of your treatment on cell viability. You could also stain you cells with the mitochondrial dye, JC-1, and then measure the % of cells that are not stained (dead cells)
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I am using U251 Astrocyte for my cell culture and I don't know the passage number of the source when I received it.
Now I passaged them many times and I want to check that they are in a good situation or not.
I know that flow cytometry can help a lot, but which type of the assay is good for me?
I count my cells by Trypan blue and countess machine life technologies and I know the percentage of live cells and dead cells, but I don't know using viability assay by flow cytometry can help or not?
Or Do I use cell cycle assay by dying PI or cell proliferation?
How can I found about my cells situation that they are in good situation for doing next experiments.
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The quick way is checking the morphology and growth characteristics. I suggest you start with ATCC low passage number cells but if you have already generated a lot of data then you could get the cells authenticated. There are many companies that will do authentication for you. Good luck.
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Our lab uses a histopaque density gradient to isolate the PBMCs from whole blood. Once the cells have been isolated and are ready to be washed, I have noticed that our cells adhere very strongly to the bottom of the tube. I cannot flick the bottom of the tube to remove the PBMCs. Typically, I have to use a disposable pipette to gently resuspend the cells; however, I am worried that I am lysing the cells thus lowering their viability.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this may be occuring?
Also, we typically assess viability using a 1:1 trypan blue stain with the Countess II. We have noticed that our viability is not very high and is often variable. Other labs in our department use the PBMC isolation tubes and achieve similar viability when using the same protocol (i.e., 1:1 trypan), so this leads me to believe that it is not our protocol. The viability is also >90% when counting with a hemocytometer.
Has anyone had success counting using the Countess II and a trypan blue stain?
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I agree with Deven Patel . We isolate PBMC and spin at lower speeds 300 - 400g for the washes. This also minimizes platelet contamination and doesn't affect viability much. Instead of tapping, gently bring the pellet into the solution with the help of 1mL pipettors/disposable pipettes.
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Can I pipette cells in each well and then mix 10 uL of cell with 10 uL of trypan blue?
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Hello,
I work with 21-day differentiated Caco-2 cells and I want to do a trypan blue count.
Unlike undifferentiated cells, trypsin (i use TrypLE Express to be exact) does not allow me to separate cells from each other and I get very large cell clusters.
What could I use to separate them effectively without inducing rapid cell death?
Thanks in advance
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Dear kevin
My rwcommendations
1. Be sure you wash your cells with PBS Ca/Mg free to fragilize the cadherins.
2. Use fresh trypsin/EDTA 0.25%.
3. Increase your incubation time in trypsin until you have good cell separation.
4. Keep your cell passaging less than 70% confluency otherwise you want them to form monolayers and have them undergo differentiation.
In addition, when resuspending you might want to do it in complete medium. And I usually pass them 4-5 times through syringe (22 gauge).
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I recently started a U937 line. On the day I thawed the vial of cells they were at 50 % viability (by trypan blue exclusion). When I checked them the next day they were at 10 % viability. Has anyone else observed this large drop-off in the first 24 hours post-thaw? The original vial was from the manufacturer so I don't think the cryoprotectant was the issue. Thanks in advance.
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Depends on the quality of cell store, they were healthy or stressed. Also, protocol how you have stored. Problem is with storage protocol. You need to check step by step. Cryoprotectant used, sterile or not. If FBS was contaminated. Or might be how you are thawing cells. concl can’t be drawn without complete informatioN.
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When freeze thawed working bank of Human Fetal Fibroblast (Dermal) were cultured with a specific seeding density, the yield on day 4 was similar to that of seeding density. When all the working banks of the same batch were tested for their yield, almost every bank gave similar outputs (except two banks). The culture medium was evaluated for composition check and cells for mycoplasma contamination. Medium was found appropriate and cells had no contamination. The incubation conditions were also checked. Even the pipettes and hemocytometer was calibrated and standardized with qualified cells prior to each run. All the cells were viable during counting (Trypan blue). The trypsinization protocol was 100% efficient during each run. The culture flasks T25/ T75 of three different companies were included to verify flask variation (if any). The liquid Nitrogen dewars were constantly monitored for liquid nitrogen levels.
Still the HFF cells yielded the same seeding density on day 4. These cells remain viable but refuse to multiply. Kindly give suggestions.
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Thank you all for your suggestions. I have cracked and pinned down the problem. Thanks for the discussions.
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Hello,
I am isolating primary murine glial cells from different neonatal knockout strains (p0-p2). After several rounds (up to 4 times) of harvesting the microglia, I am dissociating the astrocyte monolayer from PDL coated 75 cm² flasks (containing 2 brains). At this step, I am having issues getting single cells, the astrocytes are sticking together and forming big chunks of cells.
Although I have aleady tried different methods of dissociation such as using different kinds of narrow pipettes, trypsine, DNAse, papain, cell strainers and so on, I am still getting big chunks of cells. The cells seem to be fine since live/dead staining with trypan blue indicates that the cells are pretty viable (less than 5% dead cells).
Does anyone have a clue what makes the astrocytes stick together after their dissocation from the cell flasks?
Thanks in advance!
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Laura
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Hi Laura, I found an interesting paper tht compares different approaches for isolating cells from brain tissue, maybe it can help you. You might want to try change your reagents.
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I am working with J774A.1 cells purchased from ATCC on 1/16/18. I have worked with many different cell lines, but this one is turning out to be a little trickier for me. I'm looking for advice/feedback/anyone's thoughts or help!!!
Issue # 1: the cell morphology appears to differ from anything I've worked with. Some of the cells appear normal and unactivated, while others appear activated, despite the lack of any endotoxins or contamination. (See attached image.) The cells are growing in Hyclone DMEM supplemented with 10% FBS and 1% Pen/strep/L-glutamine solution ( L-glutamine 200 mM, streptomycin 10 mg/mL, penicillin 10,000 units.) The cells were thawed upon arrival and plated in pre-warmed media defined above and placed in a humidified incubator at 37 degrees C and 5% carbon dioxide. After the cells were allowed to adhere for 6 hours, the initial media was aspirated and replaced with fresh, pre-warmed media. The cells were split to a 1:6 ratio after reaching 70% confluency. Do these cells look normal? What is with the variations in morphology, and can anyone explain what is going on in the circled cells in the attach image?
Issue # 2: I am having a great deal of difficulty counting the cells for seeding plates. These cell membranes appear to be much more sensitive to scraping, which is throwing off my cell counts via trypan blue using a hemacytometer by approximately 60%. Because we use these cells for a variety of applications in our teaching labs, I need to figure out the best way to detach cells without damaging the cytoplasm so much that the trypan blue leaks into the live cells. We want to avoid using trypsin. Any suggestions???
Many thanks!
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Dear Swetapadma Majhi and Ahmed Eid RadwanI used these components for making the media: For 500 ml, 1. RPMI 1640 minus L-glutamine (Gibco 21870076): 417.5 ml 2. Sodium pyruvate 100 mM 100 X(Gibco 11360070): 5 ml 3. MEM NEAA 100X (gibco 11140050): 5 ml 4. Glutamax I 100X (Gibco 35050061): 5 ml 5. Pen/Strep solution 100X (Gibco 15140122): 5 ml 6. HEPES Buffer (Gibco 15630080): 12.5 ml 7. 2-mercaptoethanol 100X (Gibco 21985023): 4 ul 7. Fetal Bovine Serum (Corning): 50ml
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Hello, for a current microscope system we use, only bright field imaging is available, not phase or DIC. Is it possible to add a dye to cells to increase their contrast for bright field imaging? Something like trypan blue, but for live cells? Thanks.
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Hi Vivek, from your question I'm not sure if you mean eukaryotes or bacteria? Indeed the dyes suggested by Ron would work, but if you're looking at bacteria you can use crystal violet and/or safranin. These dyes will also work on eukaryotes, but are more famously a part of the bacterial Gram stain.
Hope this helps!
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I want to observe fungal structure under the microscope. As trypan blue staining need to use expensive chloral hydrate...., I want to try another method... Can anyone introduce me an alternative staining methods for fungal structure observation in the infected plant tissues (leaves)?
Thank you very much~!!!
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You could stain the chitin/chitosan at the fungal cell wall with a variety of fluorescent dyes (ie. Uvitex2B, calcofluor, eosinY). Good luck!
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Dead cells or cell debris are supposedly to be lighter than live cells, and therefore the most recommended procedure is to centrifuge and remove supernatants.
Recently I used centrifugation at 200g for 3min to pellet live cells, but found that 90% of the cells showed dead by trypan blue staining.
I also read other's recommendation on internet and collected medium without disturbing dead cells/cell debris on the bottom of culture dish, but still got the same result.
This is most frustrating....
Somehow I felt confused:
if the dead cells actually sink to the bottom while live cells remain in suspension, how could centrifugation separate them by pelleting live ones?
Or maybe I could stall the cells in falcon tube and wait for debris to fall down with gravity?
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Try using Histopaque or ficoll for density gradient centrifugal separation of lymphoblastoid cells. Dead cells will have different density than live ones.
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I have a question about growing dinoflagellates in IMK seawater medium. I count them by staining 1:1 with a 0.4% Trypan Blue solution. I have checked that the Trypan Blue and the medium itself are not full of clumps. But the Trypan Blue stains large blue clumps in the culture medium. Is it possible that the dinoflagellates are releasing a protein into the medium?
(This is a non-axenic culture, but the clumps are not living.)
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Trypan blue is normally used to stain non viable/dead cells and it usually binds with the intracellular proteins. In your case, the observation actually points out to various scenarios which either individually or in combination may be generating the so called "clumps".
Since you have mentioned that the dinoflagellate culture is not axenic, it is safe to assume unintended microbes such as fungi, flagellates, cyanophyceae and other bacteria are presence in abundance due to the dissolved vitamins and nutrients. Since, they can either aid in decomposition and remineralization of the dead dinoflagellate cells to release the intracellular contents or can themselves add to the bio-load itself. Any of them, when dead, can get stained by the Trypan blue.
Secondly, IMK seawater medium comprises of casein hydrolysates. However, enzymatic casein hydrolysates are different from HCl-casein extracts since the latter doesn't fully dissolve in water. And this in itself can lead to the staining of the excess proteins.
Thirdly, there are certain reports available regarding the ability of Trypan blue to actually induce apoptosis in cells during staining. Although this is not globally substantiated but it can certainly not be ignored and if is so, then the dead cells can be easily stained by the Trypan blue.
My fourth explanation is based on the cultured specimens themselves and touches upon the notion stated by you. There are many dinoflagellate species that regularly excrete extracellular metabolites into their surrounding media. Species such as Prorocentrum minimum are known to produce extracellular secondary metabolites (methylated butanediones) in culture Some others ingest food items extracellularly through phagocytotic extension of a feeding veil called the Pallium. These when detached or saturated with food particles may get stained easily and can appear as clumps.
Fifth point ticks off the ability of dinoflagellates to produce pellicle cysts in culture media while under nutrient stress or resting cysts as well. The pellicle cycle wall can be easily stained with Trypan blue and may as well appear clumpy under microscope.
Trypan blue is highly carcinogenic and has a tendency to form precipitates within the medium. But as you have already mentioned that the medium was initially free of clumps, I presume you have had followed the proper steps to ensure minimal ppts and also you should not wait for more than 5 minutes following the application of the stain to the specimen.
I hope that my suggestion be of help to you.
Regards,
Dr. Abhishek Mukherjee
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I am currently performing an HPRT mutation assay by which cells are treated with a mutagen and then plated in the presence of 6-thioguanine such that only cells with HPRT mutations will survive and form colonies.
What I am noticing, however, is that now that I have plated the cells in 6-TG containing media, it is difficult to tell which cells are alive and forming colonies and which are dead. I see many clumps of cells that look like colonies, but there are too many of them for these all to be live colonies (I have tested the 6-TG concentration I am using on these cells and it should be killing all normal cells). A protocol I read also said that cells may not be immediately killed by 6-TG, so they may have started proliferating and then died.
We normally stain colonies with crystal violet, which works well when cells are at a low density and colonies clearly stand out, but at the high plating density needed for this assay I can see that it will be very difficult to tell where the real colonies are if I do crystal violet staining.
The only mention of this I see in protocols for the HPRT assay is one protocol which says that trypan blue staining and "morphology" can be used to distinguish dead cells. I have found a couple protocols for trypan blue staining and fixing of adherent cells in dishes, so I think that should work. However, I do not think I could distinguish between crystal violet and trypan blue if I use both, so I am not sure if that is an option.
I was hoping there was a way I could stain the colonies with both trypan blue to mark dead cells and another dye to mark live colonies (or a different combination of dyes altogether). I would like to be able to visually count and mark colonies as I do with crystal violet staining given that I have 40 15-cm plates of cells and will be doing many replicates of this experiment. Is there any way I can do this?
EDIT: I think I have identified what it was about the assay conditions that was leading to these ambiguous results. I will update this question once confirmed.
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Hi,
Try this site (https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/products-and-services/promotions/molecular-probes-cell-viability-assay-reagents.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAhKviBRCNARIsAAGZ7CfIpRCaFI8iWaUp_K8Rize46mktuxXTJ9Li0KgYKDws8moqP7Awn1kaAtl9EALw_wcB&s_kwcid=AL!3652!3!233034537983!b!!g!!%2Bcell%20%2Bviability%20%2Bassay&ef_id=Cj0KCQiAhKviBRCNARIsAAGZ7CfIpRCaFI8iWaUp_K8Rize46mktuxXTJ9Li0KgYKDws8moqP7Awn1kaAtl9EALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3652!3!233034537983!b!!g!!%2Bcell%20%2Bviability%20%2Bassay).
With kind regards,
John- Patrick
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Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a relatively simple viability test method to distinguish between live and dead spores (fungi i.e. Botrytis or Penicillium). I need to be able to do this using a compound/optical/light microscope and a counting chamber. I was looking at trypan blue but the warning labels (carcinogen) diverted my attention to methylene blue. Can anyone give me some background on these or other test methods? For now, I want to try and avoid expensive equipment (fluorescent microscopes and flow cytometry). Any suggestions to alternative systems that might be cheaper?
Thank you,
Pieter
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Dead spore is rare spore is very strong and can survive in different conditions if not heat treated. Best method to test is use nutrient media to see the growth.
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I have been trying to thaw out lines of DISC1 cells of the same batch of cells onto 12 well plates (frozen down a month and a half ago). However on doing a Trypan Blue assay it seems to be that even though the cells are viable at the time of thawing (.13 million cells/ ml) they seem to all die after being plated out. Can't be an issue with Matrigel coating as XCL1 lines successfully adhere to the plates while using the same batch of Matrigel. Do let me know if you have any suggestions as to how I could tweak the standard thawing process with these slightly sensitive cells.
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Quickly thaw, skip the centrifugation, and change the medium the next day.
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I'm developing an assay to determine sensitivity to a hypomethylation chemotherapy agent. Preliminary cytotoxicity assays were conducted to determine dosages that yield the optimum viable cultured cell count to hypomethylation ratio via Trypan Blue & Cell TitierGLO assays. In the attached file you can see i have graphed the data with error bars. Is it necessary to conduct any more analyses via using methods such as ANOVAs?