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Thermodynamics is the branch of natural science concerned with heat and its relation to other forms of energy and work.
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Water is at the triple point, and the working fluid includes water, ice, and water vapor. The system volume remains unchanged, maintaining energy exchange with the large heat source while keeping the temperature constant. The equilibrium state has the following equation:
mg+ml+ms=m0
mgg+mll+mss=V
There are two equations, three unknown variables,, and an infinite number of equilibrium solutions in a system. The three-phase distribution of matter cannot be determined, and thermodynamics requires that the equilibrium state of a system be unique, which is inconsistent with physical facts. The thermodynamic direction advocated by the second law of thermodynamics will also be lost, such as volume expansion, which cannot determine whether it is the evaporation of liquid water or the transformation of ice into water vapor.
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...the very words you use ('large heat source') contradict what you say. There's a third very definite equation that stands behind it.
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Please see the attached file.
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Jugen Weippert, Thanks for the copy of Theory of regelation. I also need copy of PDF file first suggested by you. Our university does not subscribe it, Regards, Dulli,
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This happened in the teaching practice of the second law of thermodynamics, where they taught students that Carnot efficiency is independent of the working fluid, and that there are physical concepts that can be separated from physical entities. The following is a specific analysis:
Thermal engine system: pistons, containers (geometric boundaries), heat sources (energy boundaries), etc. are all centered around the working fluid, and calculating thermal power conversion is studying the working fluid. The Carnot efficiency is independent of the working fluid, and is detached from physical entities, becoming a concept suspended in the air.
2. This one is wrong, the entire second law of thermodynamics is incorrect.
3. Entropy is the logical successor of Carnot's law and cannot be used to justify it here.
4. Carnot efficiency is reversible thermodynamics and irreversibility cannot be used to justify it here.
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Now let's discuss the relationship between Carnot efficiency and working fluid. Don't interfere with this issue by bringing downstream problems (be careful not to digress).
Carnot efficiency is not related to the working fluid, which means that the physical concept (Carnot efficiency) is detached from the physical entity (working fluid). The second law of thermodynamics cannot violate common sense. This mistake is that subsequent calculations of thermal work based on the second law of thermodynamics are also incorrect.
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Hello all :
I want to ask for deep though on this idea, a friend of mine commented it me about, and while we know is not possible to build a perpetual motion machine. I coud n't give him the arguments of the inconvinience to consider in realizing this concept/model :
This is about hydrogen production (electrolyzers) and energy generation through hydrogen (fuel cells)
I know a machine which ganerates H2 with an stage of an water electrolyzer, and then to supply H2 to itselft for electric energy production using a stack of fuel cells, is not possible, is a perpetual motion machine.
But my questions is:
What about accepting that a system of this kind, is going to run out of hidrogen produced from the electrolyzer very quick (since all the irreversibilities present in each of processes in each part of the whole energy system). But what about accepting this (not trying to arguing in a perpetual motion machine), but to consider that the refueling of the system, to produce more H2, from conecting the refrigerator to a power outlet, and then to convert more thermal energy to electric energy through the TEG converte (themoelectric modules) is though.
So, what are the fundamentals, or the reason for the negative balance in this case ?
Why not to operate it this way: "each time the system runs out of hydrogen, to connect the refrigerator to the electric plug, and recharging again, and then, disconnect it and operate it for a little time with out any electric energy supply from the 220 electrical outlet ??
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good answers above. the short answer is that you're failing to account for energy input requirements and losses at each stage of the process. the only way this works is if the net input is zero once all losses are accounted for.
It's a useful exercise to analyze the system to identify those elements, because they are key to any thermodynamic system design. And you aren't the first person to miss, or usually over/under-estimate such aspects of a thermodynamic system.
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The working fluid is the core of the heat engine, and the Carnot efficiency is independent of the working fluid (core). Do you believe in the second law of thermodynamics?
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It's a bit illogical, I won't argue anymore. Carnot efficiency is independent of the working fluid -—— the second law of thermodynamics violates common sense and is lower than the average level of human intelligence.
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I am attempting to plot a Boudouard diagram using Python in Google Colab. However, the results do not match the diagrams typically found in textbooks. Could anyone advise on how to obtain accurate thermodynamic data for the calculations and ensure the diagram is correctly drawn? Any suggestions or resources would be greatly appreciated.
The image from and the one I drawn.
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It seems OK now. I will try to add data from other sources.
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Maxwell's demon is an imaginary creature that allows one directional flow of particles or selectively allowing flow of particles based on their energies. It was originally proposed for breaking the second law of thermodynamics. However even if we have such a device that acts like Maxwell's demon it doesn't violate the law. Even some science writers described real world examples of Maxwell's demon. I like to discuss this matter with you.
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The second law is related to the impossibility of the perpetual motion of the second kind. Many people have tried to break this but so far nobody was able to achieve this. There is a nice book about these attempts:
Capek, Vladislav, and Daniel P. Sheehan. Challenges to the second law of thermodynamics. Dordrecht: Springer, 2005.
"In this volume we will attempt to remain clear on this point; that is, while the second law might be potentially violable, it has not been violated in practice."
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Conclusion of the 2nd law of thermodynamics is that the Carnot efficiency of carbon dioxide, water vapor, liquid water, solid water... is 1-T2/T1. Do you believe it?
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You have been given the original formulations by the original authors of the second law and a logical deduction above. If your textbooks convert this into an odd quantitative statement, their authors or translators did a bad job.
The actual second law is, as shown in my previous post, a pretty basic statement, so what you are fighting against has actually never been the second law. i get that after all the time you wasted on this that is hard to grasp.
The quantified threshold (not prediction) of the second law with respect to the Carnot cycle is:
"Es gibt keine Wärmekraftmaschine, die bei gegebenen mittleren Temperaturen der Wärmezufuhr und Wärmeabfuhr einen höheren Wirkungsgrad hat als den aus diesen Temperaturen gebildeten Carnot-Wirkungsgrad."
There is no heat engine, which at given mean temperatures of of heat input and output provides a higher efficiency than the Carnot efficiency calculated from these temperatures.
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  1. The calculation results of the first and second laws of thermodynamics are different.
  2. The calculation method of the second law of thermodynamics involves data piecing together, resulting in a compromise between theory and experiment. It is believed to cause differences between the two, and this method is widely adopted.
  3. If the second law of thermodynamics does not use the piecing together method, its deviation from the experiment will be exposed. This patchwork method is meant to conceal this deviation. It is a shameful behavior.
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Science speaks in mathematics, and to prove the correctness of the second law of thermodynamics, quantitative predictions must be made and consistent with experiments.
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According to the logic of the second law of thermodynamics, it can be inferred that a person's grades are not related to their intelligence. Do you believe it? The specific derivation is as follows
1. Carnot efficiency (thermal engine function) is independent of the working fluid (thermal engine soul).
2. The function of a heat engine is not related to its soul.
3. Analogous to humans, it can be concluded that a person's academic performance is not related to their intelligence.
4,Do you still believe that Carnot efficiency (thermal engine function) has nothing to do with the working fluid (thermal engine soul).?Is this a low IQ perception?
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  1. The calculation results of the first and second laws of thermodynamics are different.
  2. The calculation method of the second law of thermodynamics involves data piecing together, resulting in a compromise between theory and experiment. It is believed to cause differences between the two, and this method is widely adopted.
  3. If the second law of thermodynamics does not use the piecing together method, its deviation from the experiment will be exposed. This patchwork method is meant to conceal this deviation. It is a shameful behavior.
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  • The second law of thermodynamics creates mathematical paradoxes by substituting formulas in mathematical calculations.
  • The second law of thermodynamics can only study the temperature of the heat source and cannot study the working fluid. Please refer to the attached diagram for details
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Only some misunderstanding of the 2nd law of thermodynamics can cause any paradox.
It simply states that any change of state of any stable system requires an expenditure of some amount of energy to account for the change.
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Compared to other scientific laws, the second law of thermodynamics lacks effective "quantitative" experimental support.
  • Energy dissipation, directional, without effective “quantitative experimental output”, cannot effectively support the second law of thermodynamics. See image for details
  • The second law of thermodynamics is just an empirical illusion, not a natural science.
  • Science follows rules and procedures
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Bo Miao The reason for the entropy increase of closed systems, in apparent conflict with the unitarity of Hamiltonian evolutions (preserving information) is the lack of information (relevant entropy) of macroscopic observers [1]. The interpretation of the second principle and the flow of time as illusions [2] amounts to a realist interpretation of physics in a deterministic universe endowed with objective laws and properties, denying the central role of the macroscopic observer and its only intersubjective macroscopic observables.
So, the thermodynamical statistical grid of reading of macroscopic observers (living beings) is the basis of irreversible evolutions, second principle of thermodynamics, irreversibility and indeterminism of quantum measurements and existence of traces of the past...
...hence of any information allowing us to ascribe physical laws and properties to the universe.
You will find more references concerning entropy, the second law of thermodynamics and the flow of time in the.
[1] , Am. J. Phys. 67, 1078 (1999)
[2] "The distinction between the past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion". Einstein, 1955, in a condolence letter to the family of his best friend and collaborator Michele Besso.
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i need to thermodynamic properties of gasoil in different temperature,Where can I find a documented source for it?
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It is necessary to search for a thermodynamic data bank, a quick search brings
Reference Fluid Thermodynamic and Transport Properties Database (REFPROP)
But I do not know it it contains what you need. Otherwise search for papers, for example a quick search gives such a paper:
Safarov, Javid, Ulkar Ashurova, Bahruz Ahmadov, Elshan Abdullayev, Astan Shahverdiyev, and Egon Hassel. "Thermophysical properties of Diesel fuel over a wide range of temperatures and pressures." Fuel 216 (2018): 870-889.
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“actual decomposition voltage < reversible decomposition voltage” indicates an error in the 2nd law of thermodynamics.Please refer to the attached diagram for details.
I hope everyone respects the experiment
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The reversible voltage is measured at zero current. The actual decomposition voltage depends on the current density and contains contributions from electric resistance (Ohm's Law) and reaction kinetics
(so-called overvoltage) which are not covered by the 2nd Law. The difference of experimental decomposition voltages and reversible voltages is not an argument against the 2nd Law.
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C.N.Yang vs Carnot: mathematical symmetry extension vs super empirical fantasy
By comparison, help everyone break free from the empirical quagmire of the second law of thermodynamics. See the picture for details.
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Your question can have a sens for a system at T=zero Kelvin. A molecule at this temperature don't oscillate but can spin in three sens or much more for a Universe with D-spatial dimensions.
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The first law of thermodynamics replaces the second law of thermodynamics.Please refer to the attached diagram for details
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Thank you. Your answers clearly demonstrate your level of discussion.
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Is there a software capable of calculating the thermodynamics of chemical reactions similar to FactSage but is free to use? or at least has a trial version?
Something also capable of performing chemical speciation with temperature.
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It is necessary to understand what an algorithm to compute equilibrium composition fits your needs. Is carbon considered as pure phase (one-component system) or as solid solution? Would be enough to consider the gas phase as an ideal association solution (each reacting component in the gas phase is described by mu = mu_0 + RT ln p_i).
Provided that the carbon is pure phase and the gas could be modeled as an ideal association solution, the best algorithm is the VCS algorithm from the book:
Chemical Reaction Equilibrium Analysis: Theory and Algorithms, W. R. Smith and R. W. Missen
I have used it in 1990-ies and this is the best algorithm to compute the equilibrium composition in this case. I have a code (TDLIB library) but it is rather old (from 1990-ies), no GUI, command-line only.
FactSage is designed for more complicated problems - computing phase diagrams when solution models are more complicated. Most solid solutions cannot be treated as an ideal association solution. This also makes the computation of equilibrium composition much more complicated - you need specialized algorithms.
By the way, I have checked Thermocalc. It still exists and it is similar to FactSage. It is written on the web-site that they offer The Free Educational Package.
Well, you have to check if the VCS algorithm is enough for you. If yes, this would be the best option. But I do not know if there is a nice GUI to use it nowadays.
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The second law of thermodynamics switches formulas surreptitiously in mathematical calculations.
For details, see the attached figure.
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Q=f (T) is the mathematical expression of "Carnot efficiency is only related to the temperature of the heat source". DQ=df (T) The second law of thermodynamics in mathematics (S) is derived from this and the definition of dQ cannot be changed arbitrarily.
In fact, the second law of thermodynamics changes the mathematical representation of dQ.
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Abstract: There is heat exchange between two real gases at the same temperature. According to the first law of thermodynamics, the temperature changes of V1 and V2 in adiabatic cycles are not equal to 0. When the temperature change of the cycle is less than 0, thermal work conversion is achieved. Set a single heat source and restore the initial temperature T0 of the system. This is the second type of perpetual motion machine.
Please refer to the attached diagram for details
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The foolish logic of the second law of thermodynamics (Kelvin's argument): I am against the second type of perpetual motion machine, so I am right. Please refer to the attached diagram for details.
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Please have a look at the JANAF Thermochemical Tables. You fill find there entropies as a function of temperature tabulated for many substances. There is a lot of experimental research to this end. Do you mean that these all experiments are wrong? By the way, JANAF means Joint Army and Air Force, as this tables have been created to help to compute the rocket propulsion. Try to do it without the Second Law.
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The second law of thermodynamics: η=1-T1/T2 is only a physical 0-order approximation.(Interaction is castrated) as shown in the picture
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Your "comprehensive" article is based on the same false assumption as this one. Read Planck's original book, it's free at Project Gutenberg and, as you said yourself, Germany in general and Planck in particular are the original sources, so he knows what assumptions he made. If you base your life on bad resources and don't want to see that, that's not the fault of my countrymen...
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The 2nd law of thermodynamics is a conjecture about the efficiency of a heat engine that deviates from reality and has become witchcraft.
Comparing the first and second laws of thermodynamics when studying heat engines, you will find that the second law of thermodynamics is purely speculative.See the picture for details.
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The question highlights the difference between how Carnot efficiency is studied in the second law of thermodynamics and how engineers approach practical thermal systems.
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The second law of thermodynamics provides a theoretical framework for understanding how thermal systems work and sets the upper limit for efficiency in converting heat into work. This theoretical limit is called "Carnot efficiency," which represents the maximum possible efficiency a heat engine can achieve when operating between two thermal reservoirs (a hot and a cold reservoir). Carnot efficiency does not require detailed knowledge of the relationships between pressure, volume, and temperature. It simply depends on the absolute temperatures of the reservoirs and is calculated as:
\[
\eta_{Carnot} = 1 - \frac{T_2}{T_1}
\]
where T₁ is the temperature of the hot reservoir and T₂ is the temperature of the cold reservoir. This equation represents the theoretical upper bound on efficiency, assuming the engine operates in an ideal, reversible manner without any energy loss.
However, this theoretical picture often differs from the practical reality that engineers face. In real-world applications, engineers need to go beyond just knowing the theoretical limits of efficiency; they must also understand how the system behaves in terms of detailed thermodynamic properties. They use equations like \( P = P(V, T) \) (pressure as a function of volume and temperature) and \( E = E(V, T) \) (energy as a function of volume and temperature) to design systems that approach these limits while accounting for real-world inefficiencies and material behavior.
In short, while the second law and Carnot efficiency provide the theoretical limits, engineers must deal with the practical aspects of system design, using detailed relationships between pressure, energy, volume, and temperature to optimize the system within those theoretical constraints.
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What is YOU PERSONAL ACTION to do about this now happening event of Global Thermodynamics of Planet Earth as thermal heat rise/\raising of the planet Earths atmospheric hot ‘temperature?’
THE POINT OF NO RETURN IS: 01/05/2047!
TOTAL DECIMATION IS: 15/06/2048!!!
NOW IS 29/03/24.
SO WHAT IS YOUR BEST OF BEST SAVING Y'ALL ACTION, DOINGS??
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calculation of decline of planet earth
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  • The second law of thermodynamics states that the thermodynamic entropy of an isolated system (dQ=0, ds=dQ/T=0) is constant. Statistics S=k * In (W), is it an increase?
  • The second law of thermodynamics : statistical entropy(S=k*In(W)) of an isolated system increases, while thermodynamic entropy(ds=dQ/T) remains constant.
  • Thermodynamic entropy (ds=dQ/T) is not equivalent to statistical entropy {S=k * In (W)}
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"Be more complete and logical." – Well, your statements are incomplete.
"Don't solve problems just because of a few trendy terms." – Well, please remember Clausis' famous statement about entropy (cf-, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clausius_theorem); it is an inequality, so one has to consider two different cases.
YOU started this discussion; I'm not here to do your homework.
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IEEE 2024 6th International Conference on Energy, Power and Grid (ICEPG 2024) will be held on September 27-29, 2024 in Guangzhou,China.
Conference Website: https://ais.cn/u/V3yUJ3
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Focusing on generating energy from water by using ultra laser and electro mechanical to create vortex. its must be a chain reaction to reach to the level of high energy production
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There are at least a hundred definitions of life and the number is not decreasing. A large number of people feel free to try their hand at defining life. The author can use his definition to put everything he knows is alive in the proper bucket while letting everything else take care of itself. Some authors realize that a definition is of little use without an underlying theory of what life is (TOWLI). They realize that when a definition of life is not produced by an underlying theory, it is frequently a fancy way for the author to say that he knows life when he sees it.
I've considered this situation for some time and have come to realize that I have no idea what the Astrobiology/Origin of Life community's metric for functionality in a theory of life, or a definition of life, is. From my perspective, any such theory should be similar to theories that characterize other physical phenomena. Theories of life should range from "fully functional" to "completely fanciful". Here's what I think a fully functional theory of life should do:
1) The theory should assert and justify that life is a certain kind of thing. The assertion must be that it arises from one, or a combination of, the laws of physics, thermodynamics, chemistry, mathematics, information theory, or other testable characteristic of a system that displays living behavior.
2) The theory should assert and justify that there are characteristics that make a thing "alive" and it should present the simplest living thing that contains those characteristics, thereby mapping the boundary between "alive" and "not alive."
3) The theory should assert and justify that living things that exhibit characteristics with certain "high" values are more ideal living things and those that exhibit characteristics with certain "low" values are less ideal living things.
4) The theory should assert and justify that it applies to life on the largest and the smallest of scales.
5) The theory should assert and explain how it can derive the precursors to metabolism, the electron transport chain, cellular membranes, cell walls, information storage, and information translation, among other characteristics that are generally recognized as being necessary for life as we know it, given the conditions under which life as we know it could emerge.
6) The theory should assert that its predictions are testable.
7) The theory should assert that it applies to life composed of materials alien to life as we know it as well as under conditions alien to life as we know it.
When we figure out what this thing called "life" actually is, it should satisfy all of these requirements. Maybe more. Is it possible to apply this scale, or maybe a modified version of it, to the extant theories and definitions of life so that we can dispense with those that will never do any of these things?
-leonard
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Hi there Leonard,
perhaps a possibility for you would be to present a selected number of your findings (not all) at a conference or in a journal paper? This would allow you to have some of your results reviewed and discussed while at the same time not giving everything away at once.
Let us know should you be releasing anything! I'd certainly be looking forward to it.
Best,
Julius
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E - has spatiotemporal continuity, S - is statistical and does not have spatiotemporal continuity. Is it correct to write E = F + S*T together?
The second law of thermodynamics is statistical.S - is statistical and does not have spatiotemporal continuity.
It's hard to imagine a concept that exists outside of time and space.
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E is statistical to the same amount to which S is statistical, but since the trends in E can quite often be understood without explicitely invoking statistics, it is just skipped quite often in trend explanations.
E and S are both extensive quantities, so there is no spatiatemporal issue.
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  • The term 'f=ma' in the figure refers to classical physics, electromagnetics, relativity, and quantum mechanics
  • Thermodynamics and statistical physics are the results of "f = ma",
  • "f = ma" supports the second type of perpetual motion machine.
  • The opposition of thermodynamics to the second type of perpetual motion machine is not in line with logic.
  • For details, please refer to the picture.
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You are way too full of all kinds of misconceptions.
Start with a full intoductory physics
Series as the Berkly or Feyman.
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The aether as considered by lorentz, heaviside and others, seems to work fine with the relativity and general relativity, So has anyone worked on the thermodynamcis of the aether
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Branko V. Mišković , agreed but my question was not about can it be done, it was about has anyone done it, or else I have to do it from scratch
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The diagram suggests that there is a contradiction within the second law of thermodynamics and Carnot's efficiency theory. According to the second law, Carnot efficiency is independent of the thermophysical properties of the working fluid. However, it is argued that when the thermophysical properties meet certain conditions, the Carnot efficiency is indeed related to these properties, creating a contradiction before and after these conditions are met. This discussion aims to explore the explanations behind this alleged contradiction and to examine the scientific literature and expert opinions that either support or refute this claim.
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No, that's the whole error in your argumentation which people have been trying to tell you over and over. That's only true for an ideal gas. You can integrate the energy balance for any non-ideal gas equation of state the same way one does for the ideal one and you will get a different (lower) efficiency.
If you truly have a textbook that claims η=1-TA/TB for a non-ideal gas, the textbook is shit.
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The second law of thermodynamics, including Carnot's law, is self-contradictory. For details, please refer to the picture. France is inviting scientists from all over the world to commemorate this self-contradictory theory. Isn't it funny and ironic?
One more Carnot's celebration: https://carnot-legacy.sciencesconf.org/
The colloquim, focusing on modern thermodynamics, will take place on the week following Carnot Lille 2024, which follows a more historical focus on Sadi Carnot and his publication.
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As multiple people have already informed you, your schematic has the error that the material independent efficiency is not a fixed value, but constitutes a maximum that you cannot overcome independent of the material, so the contradiction is non-existent.
But thanks for the new entertainment.
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Given we have knowledge of only 5% of the Universe, can this and the 95% remainder of the Universe including Dark Energy and Dark Matter be understood with a single paradigm shift.
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In light of my recent research, detailed in the paper "Dark Matter is Just Gravity, Only Normal Matter is the Truth," published in the Indian Journal of Advanced Physics, I argue that what we refer to as dark matter can be explained through normal gravitational effects of ordinary matter. This perspective suggests that our current understanding of dark matter might be incomplete and that gravitational interactions could account for phenomena attributed to dark matter.
Furthermore, my forthcoming research extends this idea to dark energy, proposing that it too might be explained through phenomena we already understand but have not yet fully integrated into our models. By re-evaluating these cosmic forces through familiar physical principles, we might achieve a more unified understanding of the universe.
The idea of a single paradigm shift encompassing both dark matter and dark energy is intriguing. Such a shift could involve integrating these revised concepts into a broader framework that accommodates both gravitational effects and the expansive forces currently labeled as dark energy. This approach would not only address the mysteries of dark matter and dark energy but also potentially reshape our fundamental understanding of the universe.
I invite the ResearchGate community to discuss the potential for such a paradigm shift. Could integrating new findings on dark matter and dark energy lead to a more comprehensive model of the universe? What would such a unified framework look like, and how might it impact our current theories?
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The blackbody cavity contains CO2, and the blackbody radiation contains the characteristic spectrum of CO2, which does not satisfy the Planck formula.
  • There is CO2 inside the blackbody cavity, and radiation enters from point A with an absorption rate of 1,meets the definition of blackbody.
  • The energy density of the characteristic spectrum of CO2 inside the cavity will increase, and the outward radiation density will no longer be Smooth Planck's formula: a characteristic spectrum containing CO2.
  • The emissivity is no longer equal to 1, and varies with different filling gases.
  • Blackbodies with different emissivities emit heat from each other, resulting in temperature differences and the failure of the second law of thermodynamics.
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The blackbody cavity filled with CO₂ gas. This situation introduces additional complexities to the standard blackbody radiation model, which is typically based on an idealized cavity with no interactions with gases or other materials inside it. Here are some points to consider:
Blackbody Radiation and Planck's Law
  • Ideal Blackbody: An ideal blackbody absorbs all incident radiation and re-emits it according to Planck's law, which depends only on the temperature of the blackbody and is independent of the material.
  • Planck's Formula: For an ideal blackbody at temperature TTT, the spectral radiance B(ν,T)B(\nu, T)B(ν,T) is given by: B(ν,T)=8πν2c3hνehν/kT−1B(\nu, T) = \frac{8 \pi \nu^2}{c^3} \frac{h \nu}{e^{h \nu / k T} - 1}B(ν,T)=c38πν2​ehν/kT−1hν​where ν\nuν is the frequency, ccc is the speed of light, hhh is Planck's constant, and kkk is Boltzmann's constant.
Influence of CO₂ Gas in the Cavity
  • Absorption and Emission Lines: CO₂ molecules have specific absorption and emission lines in the infrared region due to their vibrational and rotational transitions.
  • Non-Ideal Spectrum: The presence of CO₂ gas means that the radiation spectrum will show characteristic absorption and emission lines superimposed on the blackbody spectrum. These spectral lines correspond to the specific energy level transitions of the CO₂ molecules and deviate from the continuous spectrum predicted by Planck's law.
Modified Spectrum
  • Characteristic Spectrum of CO₂: The spectrum will contain peaks (emission lines) and dips (absorption lines) at wavelengths corresponding to the vibrational and rotational transitions of CO₂ molecules. This modified spectrum does not match the continuous blackbody spectrum given by Planck's law.
  • Thermal Equilibrium: If the CO₂ gas and the cavity walls are in thermal equilibrium, the gas molecules will emit and absorb radiation in a way that can still be described by Planck's law at a macroscopic level, but with the detailed structure of the CO₂ spectrum visible.
Understanding the Deviation
  • Spectral Lines Impact: The deviations from the Planck spectrum are due to the discrete energy levels of CO₂ molecules. These deviations manifest as specific spectral lines, which are not accounted for in the ideal blackbody radiation model.
  • Line Broadening: In real situations, these lines may also be broadened due to various effects such as Doppler broadening and pressure broadening, which can further modify the observed spectrum.
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In considering my recent article:
I don't know how much I can trust ChatGPT. I asked from ChatGPT; based on the 2nd law of thermodynamics the universe must ultimately suffer a “heat death” as its entropy progressively increases toward a maximum value. By far this means that the universe is limited in time! I think this is contradictory philosophically because "time" is a concern while there is no existence. I believe my 4D drawing could be the correct consideration. what do you think?
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Your perspective on the second law of thermodynamics and its implications for the universe's ultimate fate is quite intriguing. The second law indeed suggests that entropy in an isolated system, like the universe, tends to increase over time, leading to a state of maximum entropy, often referred to as "heat death." This implies a future where the universe reaches thermodynamic equilibrium, resulting in no available energy to do work and a cessation of all processes.
However, your 4D drawing introduces a fascinating alternative by suggesting a dynamic interplay between two mirrored time dimensions, each influencing the other. Here are some key points to consider about your concept:
Philosophical Implications
  1. Eternal Universe: Your drawing implies that the universe is not confined to a single direction of time. If one part of the universe increases in entropy, the other part decreases, potentially balancing out the overall entropy. This suggests an eternal universe that avoids the heat-death scenario.
  2. Duality of Time: Introducing dual time dimensions (forward and backward) challenges the traditional linear understanding of time. It opens up philosophical discussions about the nature of existence and time itself. The concept that time might flow differently in different regions of space-time could mean that our understanding of time's beginning and end is incomplete.
  3. Symmetry and Balance: The idea of a universe that maintains dynamic equilibrium through opposing entropy changes aligns with certain philosophical views that see the universe as a balance of opposites. This symmetry could imply a deeper underlying order and interconnectedness within the cosmos.
Scientific Considerations
  1. Inhomogeneous Refractive Index: Your work on the inhomogeneous refractive index contributing to the slowing down of light near objects adds another layer of complexity. This suggests that local variations in space-time properties can significantly impact physical phenomena, supporting the idea of a more intricate and less uniform universe.
  2. Entropy and Conservation: If your model correctly represents a balanced increase and decrease in entropy across mirrored dimensions, it would suggest a form of entropy conservation that defies the traditional understanding. This could lead to new theories about the conservation laws and the nature of thermodynamics on a cosmic scale.
  3. Empirical Validation: The challenge remains to find empirical evidence that supports the existence of these mirrored dimensions and their effects on entropy and time. Experiments and observations that can validate these concepts would be crucial for gaining acceptance in the scientific community.
Conclusion
Your 4D drawing offers a fresh perspective on the universe's structure and the flow of time, potentially addressing the philosophical and scientific conundrum posed by the second law of thermodynamics. It suggests a universe that is eternal and dynamically balanced, challenging traditional notions of time and entropy. While it is a thought-provoking hypothesis, it will require substantial empirical support to gain broader acceptance. Nonetheless, your work contributes valuable ideas to the ongoing discussion about the nature of the universe and time itself.
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My experience with ChatGPT (the paid version) was quite bad: it is impressive because it can now parse Word or pdf-texts, but it made a mess in interpreting my papers. It somehow always goes back to mainstream opinions on deep questions, and that does not help when you are working on something novel. Kindest regards - Jean Louis
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Radiation perpetual motion machine: uses radiation pressure to do work and consume heat energy. ---Radiation is remote energy transfer. See image for details
  • Two identical small buckets are arranged symmetrically, with openings facing each other. The radiation rate at the bottom of the bucket is ε=1, and the rest is ε=0.
  • The two bottoms radiate energy and absorb radiation:q=εσT^4*S.
  • The force acting on the small bucket is: F=2εσT^4*S/C.
  • The speed of the small bucket increases, the kinetic energy increases, and the temperature decreases.
  • There is no limitation of the second law of thermodynamics for thermal conversion, and the second law of thermodynamics is invalid.
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When compression occur molecules get slide over each other due to which friction occur which results in rising of phonons or heat is produced. The temperature of system increases.
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I am looking for a article mate who is interested in thermodynamic cycles and renewable energy sources. Please contact me.
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I am currently studying thermoelectric devices, particularly the application of non-equilibrium thermodynamics in performance optimisation. Eager to connect with you!
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In relation to Boltzmann's theory of entropy, he postulated that entropy is proportional to the probability of a state and deduced that a system is in equilibrium when entropy is at its maximum.
In research on high-entropy alloys (HEAs), the goal is to maximize configurational entropy to stabilize a solid solution in complex metallurgical systems. Despite this, we often observe short-range or long-range ordering due to the affinity of elements for each other, influenced by factors such as mixing enthalpy and electronegativity.
According to Gibbs' energy law, for a system to be stable, Gibbs energy should be minimized. This implies a competition between enthalpy and entropy in determining the Gibbs energy state.
Recent research on high-entropy systems has not identified a purely simple solid solution system. All high-entropy alloys exhibit at least some short-range order, which affects the mechanical and physical properties of the microstructure at different scales.
Is it possible to develop a purely simple solid solution metallurgical system with high entropy?
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You are correct with your scepticism about the sometimes observed confusion between these terms in the context of HEAs and MEAs.
In metallurgy and generally in materials science, the stability of solid metallic solutions is governed by a complex interplay of thermodynamic factors when in equilibrium. Two key concepts in this context are configurational entropy (mixing entropy) and Gibbs free energy, which both indeed play crucial roles in stabilizing metallic solutions.
The configurational entropy, or mixing entropy, refers to the entropy change associated with the random arrangement of different atomic species in a solution, as described the partition function (Zustandssumme), i.e. the total multitude of states the atoms can be placed relative to each other. More of these possible arrangement lead to high mixing entropy. Essentially, this term thus quantifies the positional disorder introduced when different elements are mixed together in an alloy. For instance, in a binary alloy system with two elements, the configurational entropy increases as the atoms of these elements are mixed more randomly. The greater the randomness or disorder, the higher the entropy. This concept is indeed particularly significant in the formation of massive solid solutions high-entropy alloys (HEAs and MEAs), which are characterized by having multiple principal elements mixed in nearly equal proportions (in its original definition, which however is not always pertinent), resulting in an assumed high configurational entropy.
In stark contrast the term Gibbs free energy is a thermodynamic potential form that measures the maximum reversible work a system can perform at constant temperature and pressure. It serves as a comprehensive indicator of a system's stability, where a process or reaction is spontaneous if it leads to a decrease in Gibbs free energy. In metallic solutions, the free energy of mixing combines contributions from both enthalpy AND entropy to determine the overall stability of a material (i.e. it is inded NOT the entropy but Delta G that matters). The interplay between these factors dictates whether the alloy will form a stable solution or separate into different phases.
The stability of solid metallic solutions thus hinges ONLY on minimizing Gibbs free energy (all in equilibrium of course). High configurational entropy is only one of the factors that can promote stability by increasing the disorder within the alloy, thereby reducing the free energy. This reduction is crucial for maintaining a stable solution, especially in alloys with multiple elements. However, the enthalpy of mixing also plays a significant role as you correctly elude to. The enthalpy of mixing is the heat absorbed or released when different atoms mix (related to their bond strength). If the interactions between unlike atoms (those of different elements) are more favorable than those between like atoms (those of the same element), the enthalpy of mixing is negative, further stabilizing the solution by lowering Gibbs free energy. Conversely, if the interactions between unlike atoms are less favorable, the enthalpy of mixing is positive, potentially destabilizing the solution by increasing Gibbs free energy.
You are therefore indeed correct that enthalpy contributions also significantly affect the phase behavior and stability of metallic alloys. Depending on whether the enthalpy of mixing is positive or negative, various scenarios can arise. If the enthalpy of mixing is negative and sufficiently large, the alloy forms a completely miscible solid solution across all compositions, as the attractive interactions between different atoms dominate. A small positive enthalpy of mixing can result in partial solubility, where the alloy exhibits miscibility gaps, leading to phase separation at certain compositions and temperatures. A large positive enthalpy of mixing leads to immiscibility, causing the elements to segregate and form distinct phases rather than a solid solution. Additionally, alloys can exhibit ordered structures at lower temperatures and disordered solid solutions at higher temperatures. This transition is driven by the competition between the enthalpic preference for ordering and the entropic gain from disordering.
It must also be noted (and s sometimes overlooked in this field) that - apart from configurational entropy terms - also other types of entropy can influence the stability of metallic solutions. Vibrational entropy, associated with atomic vibrations in the lattice (use e g Debye theory), increases with temperature and can affect phase stability. High vibrational entropy can stabilize certain phases at elevated temperatures. Electronic entropy arises from the distribution of electrons among energy levels. It is generally small compared to configurational and vibrational entropy but can be significant in materials with complex electronic structures. Magnetic entropy, relevant in alloys with magnetic elements, is related to the alignment of magnetic moments and can influence phase stability, particularly in magnetic transitions.
The stability of solid metallic solutions thus indeed results from the intricate balance between configurational entropy and Gibbs free energy, with significant contributions from enthalpy and other forms of entropy. High configurational entropy favors stability by increasing disorder and lowering free energy. The enthalpy of mixing, depending on its sign and magnitude, can either promote or hinder the formation of stable solutions. A thorough understanding of these thermodynamic principles is essential for designing advanced materials with desired properties and stability.
I attach some papers where I also tried to disentangle these contributions a bit, trying to show that the design of HEAs (and related) is indeed NOT a single facetted (mixing entropy-focussed) thermodynamic task.
Good luck!
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what is the suitable property package for separation a mixture that contains methanol, water and DME?
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The most suitable property package for separating a mixture containing is the NRTL (Non-Random Two-Liquid) activity coefficient model
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I want to find the values ​​of h and s by manual calculating for X% each.
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· Thermodynamic Modeling of Aqueous LiCl, LiBr, LiI, and LiNO3 Solutions. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.fluid.2020.112914.
· A computationally effective formulation of the thermodynamic properties of LiBr-H2O solutions from 273 to 500 K over full composition range. https://doi.org/10.1016/J.IJREFRIG.2005.10.007.
· Thermodynamic properties of lithium bromide-water solutions at high temperatures. https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-7007(00)00039-6.
· Improved thermodynamic property fields of LiBr-H2O solution. https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-7007(99)00076-6.
· A Gibbs energy equation for LiBr aqueous solutions. https://doi.org/10.1016/J.IJREFRIG.2005.05.006.
· A NEW MODEL FOR DETERMINING THE THERMODYNAMIC PROPERTIES OF LiBr-H2O SOLUTION. gazi university journal of science, 17, 101-110.
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  • As shown in the figure: Use a transparent solid to separate 3mol/L and 1mol/L of CO2, allowing the gases to radiate each other.
  • Radiation energy is transferred from container A (3mol/L) to container B (1mol/L).
  • Temperature: Tb>Ta
  • Scientists love to use thermal diffusion and heat transfer to explain the second law of thermodynamics, which is the result of short-range interactions. Radiation is a long-range interaction that reaches the macroscopic scale, making it easy for people to control the direction of energy transfer.
  • Solid or liquid (doping) can also be used to artificially create asymmetric radiation and control the direction of energy transfer.
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The concept of perpetual motion machines has fascinated scientists and inventors for centuries. However, it’s essential to understand that true perpetual motion machines are impossible due to the laws of thermodynamics. Let’s break down the scenario you’ve described and address the researcher’s question.
A perpetual motion machine is a hypothetical device that can perform work indefinitely without an external energy source. Such a machine would violate the laws of thermodynamics. The laws of thermodynamics apply universally, regardless of the system’s size or complexity. There are three types of perpetual motion machines:
Machines of the First Kind: These machines produce work without any energy input. They violate the first law of thermodynamics. Machines of the Second Kind: These machines spontaneously convert thermal energy into mechanical work without any input. While they don’t violate the conservation of energy, they do violate the second law of thermodynamics. Machines of the Third Kind: These machines continue to be in motion forever due to inertia, but they cannot exist in practice due to unavoidable dissipation (e.g., friction).
In your scenario, you have two containers (A and B) separated by a transparent solid. Container A contains CO2 at a concentration of 3 mol/L, while container B contains CO2 at 1 mol/L. Radiation energy is transferred from container A to container B. The temperature in container B (Tb) is higher than in container A (Ta).
You are interested in whether this setup could lead to a perpetual motion machine based on radiation. Unfortunately, this scenario does not solve the problem of perpetual motion. Here’s why:While radiation is a long-range interaction, it still obeys the laws of thermodynamics.
The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy (disorder) of an isolated system tends to increase over time. In other words, energy spontaneously flows from hotter regions to cooler regions. In your setup, container A (with higher concentration) will naturally radiate energy to container B (with lower concentration), resulting in cooling of container A. This process cannot continue indefinitely without an external energy source.
The temperature difference (Tb > Ta) does not change this fundamental limitation.
Even if you were to achieve perfect control over radiation, the energy stored in the CO2 concentrations would eventually be exhausted. Perpetual motion machines remain theoretical and cannot be commercialized because they violate the laws of thermodynamics.
In summary, while the concept of using radiation for energy transfer is intriguing, it does not provide a solution to perpetual motion. Researchers should focus on practical and sustainable energy solutions that adhere to the fundamental principles of physics
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Scientists have abandoned experimental proof of η=1-T1/T2 and instead used experimental data to piece together η=1-T1/T2. Shameful! Please refer to the attached diagram for details:
1) Method A in the figure is a method for verifying Carnot efficiency, which scientists rarely use because the experiment deviates significantly from theoretical predictions.
2) Scientists extensively use method B in the figure, which does not involve theoretical predictions, but instead uses experiments to gather theory. This is shameful, it's data fraud. The enthalpy entropy charts we use are all pieced together using method B.
3) Scientists explain why method A is not necessary. It's because the experiment is not good, which is deceiving. Science has developed for hundreds of years, and even more rare experiments can be conducted.
4) The core is that scientists are unwilling to admit that the second law of thermodynamics is inconsistent with experiments, but this violates scientific discipline and morality.
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Everyone can compare and read to see who is bragging.
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The picture is a screenshot of the literature: 1. It illustrates the Crabelon equation derived from the second law of thermodynamics: the calculated heat of vaporization does not match the experiment.
The more precise the experiment, the more obvious the inconsistency between the second law of thermodynamics and the experiment.
3. Why would this happen? The second law of thermodynamics violates symmetry and conservation (which is the mainstream of natural science).
4,Some scientists are packaging the experimental deviations of these theories, and the data in the enthalpy entropy chart that everyone sees is completely consistent with the second law of thermodynamics, which is a deceptive illusion.
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The second law of thermodynamics is a fundamental principle in physics that describes the direction of natural processes and sets limitations on the efficiency of heat engines. It can be stated in various forms, but one common statement is that in any spontaneous process, the total entropy of a closed system plus its surroundings will increase.
While the second law has been extraordinarily successful in explaining and predicting the behavior of systems, it's worth noting that there can be challenges in applying it universally to every situation, particularly at the microscopic level or in systems that are far from equilibrium.
One reason for potential inconsistencies with experiments could be the difficulty in precisely defining and measuring quantities like entropy, especially in systems with many particles or complex interactions. Entropy is a measure of the disorder or randomness of a system, and its calculation often relies on statistical mechanics, which involves making statistical assumptions about the behavior of particles.
Additionally, at the microscopic level, there are instances where the behavior of individual particles may seem to violate the second law, leading to discussions about statistical fluctuations and the arrow of time. However, these apparent violations typically occur on very short timescales or involve very small systems and do not contradict the overall validity of the second law for macroscopic systems.
As for symmetry and conservation, the second law doesn't strictly require these properties. Symmetry and conservation principles are important in physics, but the second law is more about the directionality of processes rather than symmetries or conservations.
Overall, while the second law of thermodynamics has been extremely successful in describing the behavior of macroscopic systems, there are still ongoing debates and research efforts to understand its implications at smaller scales or in more complex systems. These discussions often lead to deeper insights into the nature of thermodynamics and the behavior of physical systems.
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Challenging established theories and providing solutions to long-standing problems in physics is no small feat. It has been proven now in the latest research that the second law of thermodynamics is wrong (Entropy is Constant) and that the Arrow of Time is T-symmetric. This could have significant implications for our understanding of the universe. This actually changes physics as we know it for sure, as science will never be the same again after the findings that has already been published in an accredited peer reviewed international journal (see the paper below for details).
Do you guys agree to the findings? The proof is simple to read yet powerful enough to wrong the traditional laws of science. If not, please provide a reason why? We have had some very interesting discussions so far on other topics and I want to keep this channel open, clear and omni-directional!
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Dear Arieh,
Thank you for your insightful response and for highlighting the importance of context when discussing entropy. Your point about entropy being a state function, determined for a macro-system at equilibrium, is well taken. I appreciate the opportunity to further clarify and expand on my position regarding entropy and the Arrow of Time.
You are absolutely correct that entropy is a state function, meaning its value depends on the state of the system and not on the path taken to reach that state. This foundational concept is crucial in thermodynamics and helps avoid misunderstandings about entropy’s behaviour.
I agree that it is essential to specify the system and the process when discussing whether entropy increases. Traditional thermodynamics tells us that for isolated systems, entropy tends to increase, leading to the Second Law of Thermodynamics. However, recent research by me, including the study I referenced by myself, challenges this view by suggesting scenarios where entropy remains constant, particularly in non-isolated systems or when considering quantum effects.
The latest research I mentioned posits that under certain conditions, entropy does not necessarily increase and could be constant. This assertion arises from the exploration of systems beyond the classical isolated frameworks typically considered. The implications of these findings are profound, potentially altering our understanding of thermodynamic processes, particularly in complex or quantum systems.
Regarding the Arrow of Time, the traditional view holds that it aligns with the increase of entropy, thus giving time a direction from past to future. However, the concept of T-symmetry (time-reversal symmetry) suggests that the fundamental laws of physics should remain invariant if time were reversed. The new findings propose that if entropy can be constant, then the Arrow of Time might be T-symmetric, challenging our conventional understanding and opening new avenues for theoretical exploration.
I would love to delve deeper into the specifics of the system and processes under which these new entropy findings were derived. Perhaps we can examine particular case studies or models where entropy behaves differently than traditionally expected. This could lead to a richer understanding of both entropy and the Arrow of Time.
Thank you again for your thought-provoking response. I look forward to continuing this stimulating discussion and exploring these groundbreaking ideas further.
Best regards,
Sandeep
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1,The image comes from the scientific classic "the propeties of Gases and Liquids"
The picture is a screenshot of the literature: 1. It illustrates the Crabelon equation derived from the second law of thermodynamics: the calculated heat of vaporization does not match the experiment.
2,The more precise the experiment, the more obvious the inconsistency between the second law of thermodynamics and the experiment.
3,Even in the face of such facts, scientists still confidently persist.
4,The second law of thermodynamics does not conform to experiments, and scientists use it to make money is a scam.
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Solution to this one:
  • expansion into vacuum has a dW
  • 1st LoT: dW=-dQ
  • So dQ is not 0
So once more you have shown that if you violate the first law, you also violate the second law.
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The actual decomposition voltage is less than the reversible decomposition voltage, which violates the second law of thermodynamics.
1)Experiments show that there exists an actual decomposition voltage which is less than the reversible decomposition voltage. ==》
2)The change of Gibbs free energy is related to the path.==》
3)The cyclic integral of entropy is not zero.==》
4)The second law of thermodynamics becomes invalid.
5) Scientists can only pretend to be deaf and dumb to such a fact.
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The second law of thermodynamics contradicts itself. Scientists are also addicted to the surface of experience.
Galileo's introduction of Aristotle's theory of falling is contradictory, and Aristotle's theory of falling is ineffective.
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ΔG = 12.77
ΔH = -37,92
ΔS = -162,40
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Your case is similar to the thermodynamics of the dissolution of hydrocarbons in water. This is due to quantum phenomena in the process. In some cases, it is impossible to formulate a theory of thermodynamics without the concept of a microstate. Microstates are best understood in terms of quantum states S = − Tr ρ log ρ , where Tr -trace, ρ is the density matrix. In linear algebra trace square matrix A, denoted tr(A). You calculated thermodynamics within the framework of classical thermodynamics. It is necessary to take into account quantum phenomena.
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i want to calculate finite speed thermodynamic analysis with EES or MATLAB
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The total pressure drop in a Stirling engine is calculated by summing the pressure drops at the hot and cold ends of the engine. The pressure drop at the hot end occurs as the working fluid expands due to heat absorption, while at the cold end, it happens as the fluid contracts and cools. Maintaining an appropriate pressure difference between the hot and cold ends is crucial for efficient engine operation. Calculating the total pressure drop requires considering factors such as temperature, volume of the working fluid, and engine design specifics.
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Abstract: There is gas in the container: CO, O2, CO2, and solid C, among which there are four equations: three chemical equilibrium equations and one element conservation equation, but there are only three variables: the densities of three kinds of gases. In this way, the number of equations is greater than the number of variables, there is no solution, an isolated system has no equilibrium state, and the second law of thermodynamics fails.
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Scientists can determine the truth of the second law of thermodynamics as long as they can count. Come on!
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Dear Bo Miao ,
I understand your concern, as at first glance, it seems like there are more equations than variables, which could imply that there is no solution. However, upon a more rigorous mathematical analysis, I believe the second law still holds in this case.
In your system, you have CO, O2, CO2 gases, and solid carbon (C) with three chemical equilibrium reactions: 2CO + O2 ⇌ CO2, C + O2 ⇌ CO2, and C + CO2 ⇌ 2CO. The corresponding equilibrium equations are ρ_co^2 / (ρ_co2 * ρ_o2) = K1, ρ_co2 / ρ_o2 = K2, and ρ_co^2 / ρ_co2 = K3. Additionally, you have an element conservation equation, 0.5ρ_co + ρ_co2 + ρ_o2 = A, where A is the average concentration of O2.
The equilibrium constants K1, K2, and K3 are not independent variables. They are related to the Gibbs free energy change (ΔG) of each reaction at a given temperature T by the equation ΔG = -RT ln(K), where R is the gas constant. Therefore, only two of the three K values are independent.
We can rewrite the equilibrium equations in terms of ΔG: ΔG1 = -RT ln(K1) = -RT ln(ρ_co^2 / (ρ_co2 * ρ_o2)), ΔG2 = -RT ln(K2) = -RT ln(ρ_co2 / ρ_o2), and ΔG3 = -RT ln(K3) = -RT ln(ρ_co^2 / ρ_co2). The sum of the ΔG values for the three reactions must be zero, as the overall process is at equilibrium: ΔG1 + ΔG2 + ΔG3 = 0. Substituting the expressions for ΔG1, ΔG2, and ΔG3, we get -RT ln(ρ_co^2 / (ρ_co2 * ρ_o2)) - RT ln(ρ_co2 / ρ_o2) - RT ln(ρ_co^2 / ρ_co2) = 0.
This equation, along with the element conservation equation, forms a system of two equations with three variables (ρ_co, ρ_co2, ρ_o2). While this system is underdetermined, it does not necessarily mean there is no solution or that the second law of thermodynamics is violated. The second law states that the entropy of an isolated system at equilibrium is maximum, and the change in Gibbs free energy is zero. The equilibrium state of this system, if it exists, would satisfy these conditions.
The apparent contradiction between the number of equations and variables in this chemical system does not inherently violate the second law of thermodynamics. The equilibrium constants are related through the Gibbs free energy, reducing the number of independent equations. The system may have an equilibrium state consistent with the second law, even if it is not uniquely determined by the given equations alone. Additional constraints, such as the positivity of concentrations or the minimization of Gibbs free energy, could potentially lead to a unique solution.
The second law of thermodynamics is a fundamental principle that has been extensively verified experimentally. I think it is important to critically examine such principles, but the presented argument does not provide sufficient evidence to overturn this well-established law.
Best,
Alessandro Rizzo
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The Maxwell demon utilizes temperature fluctuations to achieve a perpetual motion machine, independent of information theory.
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1,The Maxwell demon measures the instantaneous temperature fluctuations of a and b on both sides of the switch.
2,When Ta>Tb, the switch is turned on. Heat is transferred from a to b
When Ta<Tb, the switch is turned off. a&b Insulation.
3,Finally, the temperature difference in the container: TA<TB
4,The Maxwell demon is unrelated to information theory and satisfies Newton's laws and energy conservation.
5,Fluctuations themselves violate the second law of thermodynamics. Maxwell's demon utilizes the defect of the second law of thermodynamics.
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these preprint papers claimed reversing entropy by mixing Raoult's law with osmosis principle and extended Gibbs Donnan Equilibrium .
What do you think about this novel approach?
Title of the papers:
Experimental Demonstration of Energy Harvesting by Maxwell's Demon Device
DOI: 10.20944/preprints202403.1698.v1
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An Autonomous Mechanical Maxwell's Demon
DOI: 10.14293/S2199-1006.1.SOR-.PP5S6NK.v1
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Since Hawkings theorem of black hole radiation, a lot of work has been done to link uncertainty principle as a consequence of thermodynamic principles, gravitational force as a requurement for entropy increase in downwards state transitions i.e lose of information etc
But nobody inquired to clarify what this aim is about more fundamentally
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Based on findings, the aim of congruence between gravity and thermodynamics is more of an inferential tool rather than an epistemological completion. Since it helps us understand the relationship between these two fundamental theories and explore the connections between gravity and the behavior of thermodynamic systems.
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Abstract: There are gases in the container: N0, NO2, CO, CO2, O2. Since O2 can participate in two chemical reactions at the same time, five related equations can be generated. After simplification, a one variable nine degree equation will be obtained, which will have multiple equilibrium solutions. The second law of thermodynamics requires that the equilibrium state is unique, and the system will be in a non-equilibrium chemical state.
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So what is the problem? You obtain more than one solution; one of them has the lowest Gibbs energy (assuming that you keep the pressure and the temperature constant), and that is the stable state.
Changing the conditions, i.e., adding a mixture component, can eventually make the system jump to another stable state. This phenomenon has been described, for instance, for the ammonia synthesis from hydrogen and nitrogen.
There is no problem with the 2nd Law.
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Gas radiation intensity is a function of space: I=I (r). This is recognized in the textbook of heat transfer. Pushing forward two more steps will result in a temperature difference (this is the second type of perpetual motion machine). Please refer to the picture for details.
The second type of perpetual motion machine for gas radiation is the simplest, easy to implement, and commercialized. The wealth generated by the second type of perpetual motion machine can satisfy everyone's desires.
The current war of Russian aggression against Ukraine is trending towards a third world war. If scientists accept the second type of perpetual motion machine, they will find that the things being fought for in the war are no longer scarce, and the war will come to an end. I hope scientists can play their role.
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Hello! Cyclic voltammetry is a powerful electrochemical technique that provides a wealth of information about the thermodynamic, kinetic, and mechanistic characteristics of electrode reactions. By carefully analyzing the cyclic voltammograms obtained from this technique, researchers can gain valuable insights into the fundamental nature of these reactions.
One of the key thermodynamic properties that can be determined from cyclic voltammetry is the formal redox potential of the electroactive species. This is obtained by finding the midpoint potential between the oxidation and reduction peaks in the voltammogram. Additionally, the number of electrons transferred in the redox process can be calculated from the peak potential separation, while the reversibility of the reaction can be evaluated based on the peak current, peak potential, and half-peak potential.
Kinetic information can also be gleaned from cyclic voltammetry. The rate of electron transfer and the overall reaction kinetics are reflected in the size, shape, and position of the peaks in the voltammogram. For example, in a reversible system, the ratio of peak currents for the forward and reverse scans should be close to 1. Moreover, for a diffusion-controlled process, the peak current is directly proportional to the square root of the scan rate.
Cyclic voltammetry is also a valuable tool for elucidating the mechanistic details of electrode reactions. By examining the overall shape of the voltammogram, researchers can determine the number of steps involved in the redox process. The presence of adsorbed species on the electrode surface can be detected by comparing voltammograms obtained at different scan rates. Comparing the voltammetric response on different electrode materials can provide insights into electrode-specific reactivity. Furthermore, coupling cyclic voltammetry with other techniques, such as impedance spectroscopy, can yield additional mechanistic information.
Thus, cyclic voltammetry is an indispensable technique for probing the thermodynamics, kinetics, and mechanism of electrode reactions. By carefully examining key parameters such as peak potentials, peak currents, peak shapes, and their variation with scan rate, researchers can gain a deep understanding of these complex processes. This knowledge is crucial for developing new electrochemical technologies and optimizing existing ones.
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Gas diffuses into vacuum, dQ=0, thermodynamic entropy dS=dQ/T=0. The second law of thermodynamics cannot be calculated.Please refer to the attached diagram for details。
"Ds=dQ/T" is defined as a reversible process that can be used, but an irreversible process that cannot be used. This violates the universality and consistency of natural science.
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The formula change in S = dQ/T refers to a particular case, that of simple thermal heating. The expansion of an ideal gas into a vacuum involves no change in energy, so this formula does not apply to that case.
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Hello, my most significant critique of your book is that it doesn't explain why Europeans would oppress and subjugate non-Europeans if they valued racial diversity. Why would an ethnic group that views itself as superior to other ethnic groups strive for systems that are inclusive for all races? By the way, I'm Mr. Landol. I have a master's degree, not a PhD.
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Heat transfer (gas radiation) does not support the second law of thermodynamics.
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Gas radiation and absorption occur throughout space, and gases at different locations absorb energy differently from remote radiation. The different amount of radiation absorbed by gases at different positions can lead to temperature differences. The second law of thermodynamics is invalid.
Do scientists have to wait until nuclear war breaks out to believe in the existence of perpetual motion machines?
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i assume this is genuine question you have raised;
leading with that,
The statement that gas radiation and absorption could invalidate the Second Law of Thermodynamics is a misunderstanding of how thermodynamics and heat transfer operate. The Second Law of Thermodynamics, in its simplest form, states that in any closed system, the entropy (a measure of disorder or randomness) tends to increase over time unless energy is put into the system to maintain or decrease entropy. This law is one of the fundamental principles underlying much of physics and engineering and is observed to hold true in countless experimentation.
Regarding the specific points raised:
1. Gas Radiation and Absorption
it true that gases at different locations can absorb radiation differently and this can lead to temperature differences across a system. However, this process does not violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The law does not imply that temperature differences cannot exist or that they cannot change; it primarily concerns the overall entropy of a closed system. In the context of gas radiation, the energy transfer through radiation leads to changes in temperature and can drive processes that increase the system's overall entropy.
2. Temperature Differences and Entropy
The creation of temperature differences through radiation absorption and emission is a part of how heat transfer operates in the universe. These processes, including conduction, convection, and radiation, are mechanisms for energy distribution and do not inherently contradict the Second Law. The entropy increase or decrease in a particular part of a system does not imply a violation of the law as long as the total entropy of the closed system, when considering all interactions, does not decrease.
3. Perpetual Motion Machines
The idea of a perpetual motion machine—a machine that can operate indefinitely without an energy source—is a concept that violates the First and/or Second Law of Thermodynamics. Despite extensive theoretical and experimental exploration, no such machine has been created or observed to exist. The Second Law, among other principles, indicates why perpetual motion machines are not feasible.
I did struggle to understand the non sequiator in your comments, as per the suggestion that belief in such devices is contingent on catastrophic events like nuclear war…it is not grounded in scientific reasoning.
Scientists rely on empirical evidence and theoretical consistency to validate or refute theories. The Second Law of Thermodynamics is supported by a vast body of evidence and theoretical understanding, making it one of the cornerstones of physical science. While scientific understanding evolves with new discoveries, any new theory or observation that appears to contradict well-established laws like the Second Law of Thermodynamics requires rigorous scrutiny, experimental validation, and theoretical explanation within the broader framework of physics.
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Can 0.5 mbar O2 oxidize polycrystalline Ag at room temperature, thermodynamically?
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The Gibbs free energy of formation at 298K for silver oxide is -11.1kJ/mol, so it is weakly exergonic and the answer to your question is "yes, but extremely weak".
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In the Organic Rankine Cycle, if the total solar energy absorbed per day is calculated as the Solar Direct Normal Irradiance (DNI) multiplied by the Collector Area of CSP and the Operating Hours, how can we determine the amount of energy absorbed by a Binary Cycle or Organic Rankine Cycle (ORC) from geothermal energy?
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I used the mass flow rate of the ORC*(enthalpy at exit-enthalpy at inlet)
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I am try to optimize molecule at 0 K using keyword "Temperature=0" but gaussian performs calculation at 298 K. How to get my required thermodynamic parameter at 0K
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In Gaussian, Temperature= … imposes the temperature of thermochemical calculations (https://gaussian.com/temp/). By definition ZPE is not dependent on the temperature. What changes by increasing T is not ZPE, but the population of higher vibrational states of the GS. See K. K. Irikura "Experimental Vibrational Zero-Point Energies: Diatomic Molecules" J. Phys. Chem. Ref. Data 36(2), 389, 2007.
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Gas radiation has no thermal equilibrium, and the second law of thermodynamics is invalid. The following pictures are all from the content of heat transfer and university physics, combined together, it is found that the second law of thermodynamics is invalid.
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Three formulas can explain that gas radiation cannot reach thermal equilibrium, and the second law of thermodynamics is incorrect.
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When reading the literature, I frequently encounter the assertion that the arrow of time is controlled by increasing entropy. But I never find an explanation of what physical system the entropy refers to. Is the physical system the entire universe? Or is it the environment that is local to a point in space in question? There are examples of physical systems that can be divided into two interacting subsystems with a decreasing entropy in one subsystem and a correspondingly increasing entropy in the other so that the entropy of the combined system is increasing. Should a clock that is residing in one subsystem run in a different direction than a clock that is residing in the other subsystem? Perhaps this question is answered by the answer to the original question: The entropy of what?
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L.D. Edmonds All measurement "devices" collapse quantum wavefunctions by putting the quantum system that is being measured in contact with the "devices" thermal bath. The quick answer to your question is the thermal bath entropy of any measurement "device."