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The clear portion of BLOOD that is left after BLOOD COAGULATION to remove BLOOD CELLS and clotting proteins.
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Recently, we generated an antibody in rabbits to detect our research target protein. I performed immunoprecipitation using rabbit serum (containing the target antibody), followed by capture with Protein G Plus agarose. Subsequently, I conducted immunoblotting using the same rabbit serum as the primary antibody and an anti-rabbit IgG HRP for secondary antibody. However, I observed strong signals corresponding to the heavy and light chains. Could anyone advise me on how to eliminate or reduce the detection of these chains?
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The antibodies you used for immunoprecipitation (rabbit serum containing the target antibody) and the antibodies used for immunoblotting (HRP-labeled anti-rabbit IgG) are of the same species, so the signals of the heavy and light chains will be strong and signal interference will occur.
So it is recommended to choose a secondary antibody of a different species than the antibody used in the IP experiment for the WB experiment.
If the interference signal is not reduced, you can only perform the WB experiment with the secondary antibody that is species-specific for the detection antibody.
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Dear reader,
Maybe you can help us out w/ an IP-problem that we stumble upon.
We try to do an immuno precipitation of a protein (POI) that is expressed in skin. The Protein G SepharoseTM 4 Fast Flow beads are pre-incubated with patient sera (or monoclonal against POI). After washing the beads are incubated w/ a substrate containing the POI.
This works fine when we use the MoAb, as it results in clear bands at a proper MW .
When we used patients serum that we know it contains IgG against POI. 60 µl of beads are loaded w/ 10 µl serum. We do get a faint signal. So far the good news. We need a stronger signal though.
We expected adding more serum to the beads would result in a better signal, but to our surprise that did not happen. The signal goes down after adding more patients serum!
We also tried mixing in the good-working MoAb w/ various concentrations of (normal healthy) serum. This resulted in a similar result: the POI signal went down after adding more NHS.
The IgG heavy and light bands do get higher in the IP’s w/ increasing amounts of serum. So it is not that the more serum IgG added is not bound to the beads.
Do you have any idea how to counter this problem?
Figure: POI is indicated w/ arrow. Arrowhead: reduced IgG heavy chain. A fixed volume (5 µl) MoAb is mixed with various volumes normal serum (NS). From a similar experiment the result is shown of IP w 10 µl patient serum (PS).
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Thank you Kayode Adeyemi for your answer.
We add 1x Laemmly buffer to the beads after the final washing step. Samples are then boiled 5', spun down. Supernatant is pipetted to the SDS-PAGE. Hence, no salt- or acidic elution.
Good point to try w/ non-POI specific IgG :)
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From practical experience in inpatient medicine, it is often observed that patients having chest pain due to acute MI have either a non-suggestive or normal ECG even after a significant time lapse. But the serum troponin I levels show raised values. Is it an expected or known finding?
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ECG findings and Trop I correlation is time domain . Serial ECG is recommended to detect hidden Ischemia
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TGF-β1 is an important factor in diabetic nephropathy. Are TGF-β1 levels elevated or reduced in the serum of T2DM patients?
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I’m seeing odd results with my Luminex assay and could use some input.
I diluted serum (control: 1:4–1:20, LPS-treated: 1:4–1:320). Most values were below detection, except the 1:320 LPS-treated serum, which gave a measurable signal.
For lysates (control + LPS-treated), more dilution = higher signal.
Our lab tech ruled out hook effect — no signal drop at higher dilutions, and similar results were seen with human tissue lysates. Spiking showed good linearity, so matrix or hook effect seems unlikely.
Kit manufacturer couldn’t help. Anyone seen this before or know what could be going on?
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This can not be explained other than by stating the matrix effect, in my opinion, if all the reagents are healthy and the used procedure is valid.
1)Antibody conjugations are being suppressed by a matrix component, and excess dilutions allow your antibody to bind to its antigen.
2) If dilution is not an option for your workflow, to confirm the hypothesis and to complete the experiment, you may precipitate the targets, cleanse the pellet, and perform the procedure after resuspending.
3) In addition, please inspect your capture and detection antibodies/reagents'...Quality, freshness, dilutions, etc...
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After transfection, cells are not growing and get sick even in control empty vector transfected cell.
protocol:
1.according to the lipofectamine protocol guide
2.after 30min incubation in serum free DMEM, reaction mix was added and after 6h media was changed with complete DMEM(10% FBS, 1% Pen-strep).
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Hi Sudarshan, transfection reagents all have certain cytotoxicity. Adjustments can be made from aspects such as the dosage of the reagent, the incubation time, and the cell status.
Feel free to reach out if you have other questions. Hope this helpful!
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Any precipitation methods to isolate only HDL from serum, avoiding serum or plasma components, mean I need pure HDL.
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The only ways I know to get HDL is to infuse the serum with either heparin manganese or phosphotungistic acid. I imagine that electrophoresis will not give a high enough yield.
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I used the mirVana miRNA kit to extract miRNAs from rat hippocampal samples.
I'm now considering to extract miRNAs from serum or plasma. From what I read, miRNeasy serum/plasma kit is the best commercial choice https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8495618/pdf/bm-31-3-030705.pdf . However, I have leftovers of the mirVana isolation kit and I was wondering if you have ever used it to isolate miRNA from serum/plasma samples.
In addition, I'm running low on wash solution 1 and filters . do you know if it's possible to purchase the wash solution 1 and filters alone from the mirVana kit? If not, have you ever tried to use an alternative to wash solution 1? And have you ever used the filters from the Qiagen RNAeasy mini/micro kit as an alternative to the mirVana filters?
Thank you in advance!!
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Thanks Ioannis, I'm glad to hear the kit works for serum too. I'm also happy to hear I'm not the only one running out of wash 1.. I'll keep an eye on eBay :')
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Hi everone,
I need to use human M-CSF(100ng/ml) to induce mononuclear cells differentiation into macrophage.
But the issue is,should be use human serum or fetal bovine serum.
Thanks for your answer!
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Hi Jiexun!
During my graduate studies, when conducting this experiment, we used bovine serum.For more details, you may also refer to the relevant sources.
Hope this helpful. For more experimental details or usage information, feel free to follow me and reach out via private message or comment.
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I've been looking around and the Estrogen ELISA Kit (on Eagles Bioscience) seems like a pretty sound option but I wanted additional opinions. Is it sensitive enough to detect low levels (e.g. in postmenopausal women or periprosthetic fluid)?
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Thank you for the answer, super appreciated! I'll be looking into it.
As for the ELISA kit, how would you rate it for regular estrogen level measurements, especially in terms of relative levels? Do you think it's good enough or would it still be better to go for LC-MS/MS?
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I need to work in an arthritis model induce by serum from K/BxN. Do you know where can I purchase K/BxN serum?
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Hi! I am thinking about the same model. Did you find any solutions?
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Could anyone provide the standard reference range for serum levels of Zn, Ca, Se, Al, Fe, and Cu in young healthy C57BL/6 mice?
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Hi! Attached you will find some of these data.
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I have a line of healthy human astrocytes, and plan to passage it.
I was wondering if any suggestions on how to cryopreserve it?
I use mFreSR from stem cell to freeze the iPSCs and not sure if I can use that for astrocytes too?
I saw a post with comments suggesting 10%DMSO and 90%FBS, but was wondering if the FBS will have any negative effects on human astrocytes and if I need to use a different serum instead, or if washing the cells after thawing will be enough to remove the FBS and limit it's effects.
Thank you,
Mahsa
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Hello @Martina Lorenzati,
At the end I used the protocol by Lonza company and it has been working great, it's the following:
80% standard astrocytes growth media+10%DMSO+10%FBS
Hope this helps,
Mahsa
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Optimized protocol
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Thank you so much for directing me to the protocol on ResearchGate. I really appreciate your help! Nicolas Poirier
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is it Qiagen miRNeasy Serum/Plasma Advanced Kit or Norgen Plasma/Serum RNA Purification Kit ?
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I used Kia gene auton extraction kit to extract mRNA for gene expression. It is very good.
For specific details just contact Qiagene https://www.qiagen.com/us/contact-us
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how to quantify ceruloplasmin in serum by SDS-PAGE?
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To quantify ceruloplasmin in serum using SDS-PAGE, prepare serum samples, separate proteins on an SDS-PAGE gel, and stain the gel to visualize ceruloplasmin bands. Use densitometry to measure band intensity and compare it to a standard curve for quantification.
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I am trying to measure serum neurofilament light chain in Multiple Sclerosis patients but I cannot find in the current student what is the required volume of the serum from each sample.
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We found that we have this kit from Qiagen but labelled for serum/plasma samples. Can I isolate RNA from frozen cells pellet of MCF7 and MDA-MB231 cell lines using an RNA isolation kit intended for serum/plasma use?
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Thank you so much
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I have a couple of questions for anyone who has used NIH-3T3 cells:
1) I have noticed that the recommended supplement for the media is calf serum (not FBS) - what is the rationale for this? What are the consequences of culturing these cells in FBS?
2) When culturing NIH-3T3 cells, does serially passaging the cells lead to any morphological changes or changes in gene expression?
Thanks!
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Q1) I have noticed that the recommended supplement for the media is calf serum (not FBS) - what is the rationale for this? What are the consequences of culturing these cells in FBS?
The source of calf serum is from calves aged between 20 days and 12 months. This type of serum contains lower levels of growth factor than FBS, making it less potent for supporting cell proliferation. So, calf serum is used in those cell culture applications where the high growth factor content of FBS is not necessary.
As NIH-3T3 cells have a doubling time of around 18-20 hours, it is highly proliferative. Therefore, calf serum is preferred to FBS as the supplement for the media.
Q2) When culturing NIH-3T3 cells, does serially passaging the cells lead to any morphological changes or changes in gene expression?
Yes, it does. NIH-3T3 cells are immortalized, but they will still slowly die/ undergo senescence after many passages. So, whenever you use NIH-3T3 cells for any cell-based assay, you should try to use cells of lower passage (preferably less than P-20).
Regards,
Malcolm Nobre
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I am currently designing a sandwich ELISA experiment and would like to inquire about the feasibility and potential challenges of using polyclonal antibody serum from the same species as both the capture and detection antibody. Specifically:
  1. Can polyclonal antibodies derived from the same species be reliably used for both capture and detection without significant interference?
  2. Are there common issues, such as cross-reactivity or background signal, associated with this setup?
  3. Would it be advisable to label the detection antibody (e.g., HRP) or use a secondary anti-species antibody for signal generation to minimize potential issues?
Any guidance, relevant literature, or best practices to optimize this configuration would be greatly appreciated.
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@ Swagata Sarkar- Thankful.
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Currently I am conducting research on the analysis of hydroquinone in facial whitening serum using acetonitrile as a solvent. However, I have not found data on the solubility of hydroquinone in acetonitrile. Can anyone help me with this information? Thank you for the help
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Paul Rutland Thank you for sharing your information, Sir
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Hi all,
I am planning to perform Gelatin Zymography using conditioned media from three different knock out from same cell line. I seeded equal number of cells and collected the conditioned media (serum free) for Gelatin Zymography. Is there any way I can address loading control in this assay. Do people normally quantify protein concentration from the collected conditioned media before loading it into Gel? even if we quantify by BCA, how would I show it in the final figure?
Also, the total volume of my conditioned media is roughly 500 ul. Do we need to concentrate it to, lets say 100 ul, across the set and load equal volume if we do not quantify protein concentration?
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Gel must be prepared with gelatin and samples applied on this gel.
Physiol. Res. 72 (Suppl. 5): S593-S596, 2023 https://doi.org/10.33549/physiolres.935228
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Here I am using DMEM with 10% serum and 1% antibiotics.
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If your Saos-2 cells are attaching but not attaining their typical morphology, there could be a few potential reasons. Here are some suggestions to troubleshoot:
  1. Check Culture Conditions:Medium: Ensure you're using the appropriate culture medium (often DMEM with 10% FBS for Saos-2 cells). Verify the freshness of the media and supplements. pH and Temperature: Ensure the incubator is at the right temperature (37°C) and CO₂ concentration (usually 5%). A proper pH (around 7.2-7.4) is essential for cell health.
  2. Seeding Density:Low or high seeding density can affect cell attachment and morphology. Make sure you're seeding the cells at the recommended density. If the cells are too sparse, they might not communicate effectively, while overcrowding can lead to competition for nutrients.
  3. Check for Contamination:Mycoplasma and other contaminants can cause abnormal cell morphology. Regularly check for contamination under the microscope, and consider testing for mycoplasma if you notice persistent issues.
  4. Try Different Coating:Some cell lines respond better to coated surfaces. You might want to try coating your culture plates with collagen, poly-L-lysine, or fibronectin to see if it helps with better cell morphology.
  5. Cell Passage Number:High passage numbers can sometimes lead to changes in cell behavior. If you’re using a higher passage number, consider starting with a fresh, lower passage stock.
  6. Monitor Attachment Time:Make sure you’re giving the cells enough time to attach before changing the medium. Sometimes premature media changes can disrupt cell attachment.
  7. Serum Quality:The quality of Fetal Bovine Serum (FBS) can vary. If possible, try using a different batch of FBS to see if it improves cell morphology.
  8. Adjust Media Components:Consider adding supplements like non-essential amino acids (NEAA) or specific growth factors if the standard medium isn't working.
Carefully monitoring and adjusting these conditions can help improve the attachment and morphology of Saos-2 cells. If the issue persists, it might be worth rechecking your protocol or seeking insights from colleagues experienced with this cell line.
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Hi everyone,
I am seeking advice on the optimal protocol for RNA extraction from human T cells that have been frozen at -70°C. Specifically, would it be more beneficial to culture these cells for 18 to 24 hours in complete media (TexMACS + 10% human serum) with 100 IU of IL-2 before proceeding with RNA extraction, or should I initiate the extraction process immediately after thawing?
Any insights or experiences you could share would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Both methods are possible. In both cases, it is important to wash the cells to get rid of DMSO (cryoprotectant) which can interfere with RNA extraction. DMSO can slightly but significantly affect RNA structure.
If you plan to extract RNA immediately after thawing, then you may follow the protocol provided below.
1. Thaw the frozen human T cells in less than 2 mins in a 37°C water bath.
2. The thawed cell suspension may be quickly transferred to 10 mL chilled RPMI 1640 medium and centrifuged at room temperature at 400 × g for 10 minutes.
3. The supernatant may be removed, and the cells may be washed once with 10 mL of RPMI 1640 at room temperature and then centrifuged at 400 × g for 10 minutes, also at room temperature.
4. The supernatant may be completely removed, and cells may be subsequently lysed in TRIzol reagent.
I would prefer to culture these cells for 1-2 passages in complete media supplemented with 100 IU of IL-2 and then proceed with RNA extraction because cultured cells provide a more homogeneous population of cells. Moreover, cultured cells will have a faster growth rate, which is linked to protein synthesis. This results in more ribosomes in cultured cells which means more total RNA. After harvesting the cells, perform RNA isolation as soon as possible under cold conditions.
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Has anyone worked with the HAC15 cell line (ATCC® CRL-3301 ™)? I need to know if I can grow it with another fetal bovine serum that is not Cosmic Calf Serum
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HAC15 cells will adapt to most sera, but their response to Angiotensin II and potassium changes significantly. Be aware that steroid production in HAC15 cells depends on the applied serum and HAC15 cells cultured in FBS produce other steroids than in CCS. For high aldosterone secretion, I recommend 2.5% UltroSerG serum. HAC15 cells cultured in FBS will divide quicker than in CCS.
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I have applied a general protocol. In short:
20uL of serum were added to 8 volumes of a cold TCA+ Acetone solution. After a light stirring I incubated for 90 minutes at -20 followed by centrifuge at 15,000 rpm for 20 minutes. The pellet was washed with acetone and then lyophilized.
The coloration revealed that the albumin was not completely removed from the serum, and the pellet did not resuspend properly. I tried resuspending the pellet in Laemmli Sample buffer.
Can anyone help me?
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There are kits for albumin removal from serum samples. Here is one:
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Dear all,
I'm putting together an antibody panel to characterise airway epithelium.
I've tried two different p63 antibodies which show mostly unexpected cytoplasmic staining. I would expect 15-30% of epithelial cells to be positive with nuclear staining.
Has anyone else come across cytoplasmic staining in airway epithelium?
Details as follows:
FFPE section of lung tissue. Antigen retrieval done on Leica Bond Rx, blocked in BSA with Dk serum, Triton X-100 and Tween 20.
C1 (blue): DAPI
C2 (green): Ms x p63 (ab735, 1:100)
C3 (red): Rb x p63 (ab124762,1:200)
C4: merge
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It seems like you're using a different antibody to those that I've been using. My fixation times were 10 minutes, my cultures are only a few cell layers thick, so they don't require a long fixation time!
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I would like to ask about your experience with the assessment of serum Glypican-3 by ELISA. We have used reagent kits from two different manufacturers and got no results. In the first case, already the standard curve was with many errors (lower concentrations in higher standards). When performing the second analysis, standard curve was ok but all serum samples concentrations were bellow the blank value, and the spiked ones only a bit higher. The plates were prepared by an experienced lab assisstant. Do you have any clue? Thanks a lot!
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What did you use for spiking? Was concentration comparable to the concentration of the high standards?
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Anyone tried adapting UMNSAH/DF-1 (Chicken Fibroblast cells) from adherent to suspension cells. Currently we are using Xerumfree TnC bio serum alternative with DMEM. The cells are not adapting from 50:50 adaption stage. Can anyone suggest any growth factor to enhance the growth or any other media form adaption to suspension cells.
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What is the relationship between serum cholesterol and systolic blood pressure?
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"High blood pressure (hypertension) and high cholesterol are linked. Cholesterol plaque and calcium cause your arteries to become hard and narrow. So, your heart has to strain much harder to pump blood through them. As a result, your blood pressure becomes too high."
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Many prostate cancer cell line, such LnCap, Vcap and LAPC4, are androgen-dependent. While studying drug resistance mechanism especially Enzalutamide resistancen, many literature are using charcoal-stripped serum to support their cell line. How will this impact the outcome? I calculated testosterone concentration in normal 10% FBS-supported medium and find it's actually similar to castrated patient whose testosterone are at 20 ng/dl.
Think of this: clinically defined castrated testosteron level is about 5% to 10% of normal male testosteron level, since some of them are synthesized by adrenal gland and cannot be antagonized by GnRH therapy. And we are adding 5% ~ 10% FBS to medium, actually diluted androgen just like castrated patient.
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This is a slightly complex question.
Essentially you are correct. The cells are growing at levels which would be thought of as castrate in humans. It is more of a question of the 'norms' used for growing these cells lines.
The cells in culture will have adapted their growth to the level they have since they were originally derived, and 10% serum is the recommended growth medium from ATCC, even though it may be lower than human levels. These cells may be considered as being already somewhat androgen independent or adapted compared to normal tissue.
Androgen levels can have a range of concentrations in humans and mammals, and animal sera will also differ - so its important to batch test the serum. Also human patients will have very different levels dependent on being in puberty or elderly - so there is no ideal level - just a 'normal' range. The main thing is to keep it constant for your experiments, and to keep it in line with all other research. It would be impossible and / or very expensive to grow them in pure human serum. Such cells may actually stop growing or die if they were suddenly given the full maximum human level of androgens.
Using charcoal stripped serum will help in measuring androgen - anti-androgen interactions in a controlled system where you can remove all androgens and then add the compounds in a controlled manner, and measure an output - growth or PSA levels are good.
Remember that stripping serum with activated charcoal will remove all small lipophilic compounds - including estrogens, androgens, adrenal androgens, corticosteroids etc. So you may want to take that into account.
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I'd prefer not buying any separate commercial media because of the cost. Please suggest what growth factors or vitamins can I add to DMEM KO other than glutamax, penstrep and bFGF for the MSCs to grow normally.
Thank you!
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Good morning, working on patient serums, I noticed that in western blotting tests the IGs give false positives and unspecific signals. Ask if anyone can give me a methodology to remove these immunoglobulins, considering I have few serum available.
Thank you.
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for small volume of samples, using protein L conjugated beads for immunopreciptation is the best way to remove Igs from the blood samples. after IP, take the top for your western blot..
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We performed ELISA to assess cytokine release from SIM-A9 microglia cells treated with LPS and amyloid-beta. We used DMEM/F-12 medium with 10% FBS, but did not detect cytokines from amyloid-beta treated cells, while LPS treatment led to greater cytokine secretion. The question remains whether amyloid-beta induces cytokine release in SIM-A9 cells cultured in serum-free medium.
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Yes, SIM-A9 microglia cells can survive w/o serum at least for 24 hours. What is the concentration of amyloid-beta used to stimulate SIM-A9 microglia cells, and the treatment period?
Try treating the cells with 10-20μM Aβf for 24 hours in serum-free DMEM/F-12.
You may want to refer to the protocol in the papers attached below.
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We have encountered an issue with the serum of mice being hemolyzed after the process of centrifugation. Could you please provide guidance to prevent hemolysis ?
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Possibly there is some lysis with a fine needle so do not apply too much suction and take the sample slowly. Check that you are not centrifuging at too high a speed and crushing the red cells....possibly lower g forcr and longer spin. If your animal house has trained technicians taking blood then speak to them about how they do it
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I am trying to extract DNA from serum. I found an article that claimed simple extraction can be done in a single tube -
Here they used a solution containing 6M NaI/13mM EDTA/0.5% sodium N-lauroylsarcosine/10 µg glycogen as a carrier/26mM Tris-HCl, pH 8.
But currently, I don't have NaI and glycogen. So, I am thinking of making a solution with KI + EDTA + sodium lauroyl sulfate + Tris-HCl, pH 8. And finally, use Na-acetate and absolute ethanol for the precipitation of DNA.
What consideration should I take into account to use alternative reagents?
And, in their protocol does it mean the final solution containing all reagent should have a pH 8 or it just means the use of Tris-HCL with pH 8?
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I think KI should work as Nal replacement, but it might behave slightly differently, so I would keep an eye on how it affects the results, I shall for sure check for any potassium salts deposits in the solution before proceeding with it. The replacement of sodium lauroyl sulfate should still work but just be mindful, that it can be a bit stronger or much aggressive for cell lysis or protein denaturing, so I would just adjust the concentration accordingly. Without any glycogen, the DNA quantity might be dropping but you should still be fine.
I shall use Tris-HCL at pH8, since the protocol specifies that the extraction solution is maintained at pH8, which is said to be adjusted by Tris-HCl at pH 8. They might be suggesting this pH throughout the process for better results.
If possible, just test the adjusted formulation on a small scale, with minimal serum sample to see how well it works and how good the DNA quantity would be.
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We have encountered an issue with the serum of mice being hemolyzed after the process of centrifugation. Could you please provide guidance to prevent hemolysis?
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Have you considered pre-loading with something like Apixaban?
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i am trying to stain different proteins of interest in human paraffinized section.
my signal should be the vessel only, but regardless of the antibody I get circle shaped spots , I tried antigen retrieval with trypsin, and I tried different dilution of antibodies (1:100-1:1000) and blocking in 5% and 10% donkey serum
why I have those spots? how can I reduce them? I have the same issue at different wave lengths (regardless of secondary antibodies tag)
this is my protocol:
•Thickness of sections : 10µ
•Deparaffinization by heat 55degrees for 20 min then (xylene - xylene: ethanol - ethanol) 10min each*twice
•Hydration (ethanol 95% - 70% - 50% - tab water) 5min each*twice
•Antigen retrieval : citrate buffer 10min microwave then leave in buffer to cool
•Peroxide treatment: 3%H2O2 10min at room temp
•Blocking: 5% Donkey serum + 0.3% Triton-PBS 1 hr RT
•Antibodies:
•Primary in 1%BSA: VWF (1:200)
•Secondary 1:500 of Rabbit 594
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Hello all,
I found this interesting paper in which authors described their protocol to get rid of the background in their staining.
Hope it can be helpful!
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We have developed an orally delivered compound that elevates serum nitric oxide where the NO has a circulating half-life of ~5 hours.
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Yes I’m interested because I developed a theory on mental illness based on systemic nitric oxide alterations. It could be interesting to give your compound to psychistric patients to see you f their condition improves thus confirming my theory. Let me know
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So, I am analyzing serum proteomics with MS from autism mouse models and trying to compare that to human serum data. So its:
Differentially expressed proteins in human serum vs. differentially expressed proteins in mouse model serum
I already got the data. The experiment is already done. No time to re-do any experiment. Is there a way, a tool, to translate the mouse protein data into a human data? Considering the analogous proteins and what not? I'm working with UniProt accession numbers...
If there is like a tool where you drag in the uniprot accession numbers and converts it into its human counterpart protein, or a paper that describes such a method, it would be of great help! Almost out of my depth here...
Thanks,
Andrew
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Isoforms most likely. You also see it when you go from protein to gene or vice versa. You also have the complication of different species.
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I have tried to optimize the serum free dmem which is the best but i am afraid the secretory profile has too much variations.
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Here is a publication on this topic Ekta:
Lawlor K, Nazarian A, Lacomis L, Tempst P, Villanueva J. Pathway-based biomarker search by high-throughput proteomics profiling of secretomes. J Proteome Res. 2009 Mar;8(3):1489-503. doi: 10.1021/pr8008572. PMID: 19199430.
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Greetings all,
My group has been trying to reproduce 3t3-L1 cell (preadipocytes) differentiation. The typical protocol involves 3 steps: the first step and second step both last for 2 days, and the third step varies in its time since it is more of a maintaining stage for the cells. This protocol is mature and used by many scientists, though details could vary by individuals, the general scheme is described as above. This protocol from University of Michigan is one of those we referred to: https://macdougald.lab.medicine.umich.edu/lab-protocols/protocolsmethods/3t3-l1-differentiation-protocol
We followed the protocol strictly. While other people can have most of the cells differentiated after 4 days entering the third step, we are not able to reach a similar result, in other words we have a low differentiation rate (since it is weird so we worry if it could possibly affect our further research?)
We tried to troubleshoot. For example, our cell passage number isn't too high, we prepare the differentiation cocktail correctly, our cells have no mycoplasma infection, we tried different serum but all these seemed not effective. We also tried using the same medium and serum used by other groups from our institute who can efficiently differentiate,though there is a problem that their cells have mycoplasma, so we could not say for sure, but still we weren't able to reproduce their results either.
In this case, should we consider that the problem is with the cell we are using? We bought it from ATCC. We also have contacted the distributor and asked for relevant information, but we didn't see any obvious problems.
I think we are lost, please share any thoughts that maybe helpful, thank you!
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Could you post a picture of your cultures at 4 days? Does the % of differentiated cells increase after 4 days?
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Dear researchers, We are starting a new experiment involving short chain fatty acids and we wanted to measure them in serum samples using UPLC-MS/MS.
For the protocol set up, we found some preliminary information, but we still need some details of the procedure, such as the proper gradient and column. Therefore, I was wondering if someone could shed some light about the technique and share with us the information about experimental procedure. I would really appreciate any further detail about it. Thank you in advance for your time. Javier Moleón Moya
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@Judit Thank you 😊
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Hello everyone,
I'm currently working on a project where I need to isolate viruses in culture from incubation with PCR-positive serum samples, but I'm facing the challenge of dissociating antibodies bound to the virus. Does anyone have a reliable protocol or references that could share for pre-treatment of infectious sample for isolation purposes?
Any guidance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance for your help.
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Dear Aldo
You can probably do this by lowering the pH using an appropriate buffer over a short period of time, or by a competitive approach via adding recombinant proteins similar to the surface proteins of the virus.
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Hi everyone,
I wanna get a suitable protocol for depletion of IgG and other immunoglobulins from serum, without kits or chromatography but with chemical methods like ammonium sulfate. Can anyone help me? Does anyone have any experiences about it?
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Totally avoid reducing agents like 2-mercaptoethanol or dithiothreitol. Following SDS-PAGE under NON-reducing conditions, (heat for only a few min), IgG will land at 150 kDa far away from your target molecule.
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Hi everyone,
I have some important problems with my western blot against serum proteins. I have used secondary antibody conjugated by HRP that binds in unspecific manner to other proteins as same position as my desired protein, like in 130, 180, 50, and 25 kD molecular weights. I have done over western blot without using primary antibody but using secondary antibody, and see these results.
What should I do that my secondary antibody don't bind to other proteins in PVDF?
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Procure a protein A or G ligand attached resin and apply it to plasma. You do not need chromatography. Either batch mode, gravity flow, magnetic bead assisted, or spin column format can bind IgGs and wash out your targets. Immunodepletion would be the most effective approach and can be performed w/o chromatography. Conventional chemical precipitation or physical isolation methods will cause your proteins to be lost. Depending on your choice of analytical platform, protocols can be further discussed.
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Hello everyone,
Has anyone try to culture the normal prostate RWPE-1 cell line in RPMI medium supplemented with foetal bovine serum? There's some articles available but neither describe details about the adaptation process,
I would need an adaptation protocol or some technicals advices,
Thanks in advance,
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hi, did you find a solution? I'm also going to try to grow RWPE on RPMI
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Hi everyone,
I wanna do proteomics of monkeys serums in 2 states, healthy and patient. How many monkeys in each group I need to run proteomics and validate my data from it?
Do I deplete albumin and IgG from serum then run proteomics? or any extra purificaton steps? or I can run serum without any extra purification?
Thanks to answering me.
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I would also recommend the albumin and IgG depletion, it will help with the identification of lower abundance proteins.
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We have to report the concentration in pg/ml, the ELISA kit provider did not reveal the specific activity of the enzyme. In that case how to convert the units?
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ELISA determines the quantity of a protein, not the activity. The normal way to quantify the amount by ELISA is to prepare a standard curve, whereby several known amounts of the target protein are tested in the ELISA. In this case, that would be done by adding to the plate various solutions of purified beta-galactoside containing known concentrations of the protein.
It's possible that the mIU/mL readout of your ELISA refers to the quantity of enzyme rather than its activity. The International Unit (IU) is a vague term, and it need not be the same as an enzyme activity unit. You need to find out what an IU of beta-galactosidase means. If it does refer to activity, the conversion to pg/mL would requiring knowing the specific activity (µmol product formed/minute/mg protein) of the particular enzyme-containing sample tested in the ELISA. This would have to be measured with the enzyme activity assay used to define the International Unit. Without that information, the conversion is impossible. Of course, if you perform the enzyme activity assay, what was the purpose of the ELISA?
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Researchers in the field of biochemistry often use it to study the effect of chemical compounds derived from medicinal plants and herbs, and their effect is studied in the laboratory on patient samples in serum or blood. The question is: what is the method that explains the effect of these compounds on enzymes and their work in the human body?
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What is the most accurate technique for measuring the effect of a drug on enzymes? Angelo Mathes
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I am doing IL6 ELISA to measure mouse serum IL6, but my ODs are so low even for mouse on two weeks high fat diet.
My standard curve is good enough as a positive control.
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1:2 dilution may do. However, this is dependent on the total volume of sample required for the ELISA. You may find yourself using either 50 or 100ul of serum or plasma.
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Dear colleagues,
I will measure serum Ang 1, Ang 2 and VCAM-1 levels by ELISA in patients who were undergone hematopoietic stem cell transplantation. I should find the most suitable dilutions to be able to measure the cytokines' levels within the limits of the standards in the ELISA kit. I will try different dilutions, but I should use the wells of the kit as few as possible for the dilution optimization. Does anyone have any experience or recommendations which dilutions would be suitable while measuring serum Ang 1, Ang 2 and VCAM-1 levels?
Standard Curve Range for Ang 1 is 150-2400 pg/mL.
Standard Curve Range for Ang 2 is 40-640 ng/mL.
Standard Curve Range for VCAM-1 is 1.56-100 ng/mL.
Thank you very much for your help.
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Hello. Our lab has found that a good dilution factor for VCAM-1 within both postmortem and antemortem human serum is 50X. I hope this helps.
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The journal about "The Transition From Gel Separatory Serum Tubes to Lithium Heparin Gel Tubes in The Clinical Laboratory” discussed how lithium heparin tubes did not show any significant differences from the normal gel separatory tubes. Are there other evacuated tubes that can be used aside from lithium heparin that can give significant laboratory results
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The assay dictates which tube to use. EDTA and sodium citrate containers contain preservatives that interfere with clinical chemistry assays. Red top clotted serum tubes can be used for any assay a yellow top serum gel tube is used. The only difference is the red top tubes don't contain gel to separate the cells from the serum.
There are tube guides published on the internet.
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In the journal, "THE TRANSITION FROM GEL SEPARATORY SERUM TUBES TO LITHIUM HEPARIN GEL TUBES IN THE CLINICAL LABORATORY" by Oğuzhan Zengi, In what ways does the use of LIH tubes impact laboratory workload and efficiency compared to traditional serum tubes, especially considering the potential benefits of reduced aspiration errors and false results?
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Additionally, with lithium heparin tubes there is noworry about clot formation (normally) and this is a time saver in getting the blood analyzed.
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I'm gonna to make arthritis model induce by serum from K/BxN. However, K/BxN mice are unable to breed. So where can I purchase K/BxN serum?
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Hi Wang and Camila, could you solve the problem??
I would like to buy K/BxN serum but where can I do?
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I have having an issue with the Fc blocking stages when carrying out flow cytometry on a murine macrophage cell line. I am using a rat anti-mouse antibody against the scavenger receptor MARCO. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find a conjugated version of this antibody and so I have a secondary goat anti-rat F(ab')2 to use with it. I have an Fc blocking solution, however this is also raised in rats and causes non-specific binding as the F(ab')2 fragment binds to this blocking solution as well as the primary antibody. I have been unable to find any Fc blocking solutions that are not raised in rat and I have tried various serums to try and block the Fc receptors instead, but have been unsuccessful (I have used a variety of mouse, goat, and FBS combinations).
I was wondering if anyone knows of any Fc blocks that are not raised in rat I could try, or whether there is any advice on how to get good blocking results using serum?
Thanks very much!
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Thanks very much for your reply - I will definitely look into this!
Best wishes,
Victoria
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We have received a new batch of SHSY5Y from the suppliers, and the cells are growing in clumps/spheres even after trypsinization.
Is there a way to control/stop it?
I just read this, and changing the brand of serum of adding more serum (>10%) may help?
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Thanks Malcolm Nobre.
Differentiation is definitely my next way out. But I still have some experiments to be carried out with undifferentiated cells. I have seen adding extra serum, 11% total helps the cells spread out of the clumps.
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I am conducting the IHC experiment with cultured cells.
However, I experienced the non-specific staining with all my samples.
The nucleus were stained by DAPI, but beside the blue of DAPI, they were also stained by the conjugated red-fluorescent dye of secondary antibody. I noticed that the cell nucleus was stained even much more strongly red than the other target parts. So when I merged two color images together, the red and blue signals overlapped, causing them to turn purple-pink. How to remove non-specific red staining of cell nucleus?
I put my image and our protocol below.
1. Fixation step: 4% Paraformaldehyde (PFA) 2ml, 20 min, Room Temp. --> 1. Washing with PBS (shaking) (3 times)
2. Permeation: 0.1% Triton in PBS for 10 min --> Washing with PBS (5min)
3. Blocking: 10% Serum in PBS, 1.5h
4. Primary antibody: Remove blocking solution, not washing --> Incubate cells in working solution of (0.1% Triton+10% Blocking Serum + Primary Antibody)/PBS (overnight, 4oC) (ratio 1:500)
5. Secondary antibody: Remove Primary antibody, wash 4 times with PBS --> Incubate cells in working solution of (0.1% Triton+10% Blocking Serum + Cy3-conjugated-Secondary Antibody (ratio 1:500) + DAPI (ratio 1:1000))
--> Washing 3 times with PBS
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You should first try to find out whether your secondary antibody alone (without applying the primary antibody) gives the same result > negative control; if so, use higher antibody dilutions and titer it until the background is minimal. Then apply the primary antibody and the secondary antibody in the optimal dilution you determined in the previous step.
Another option is to prolong the incubation with blocking buffer or to try different blocking solutions, e.g. BSA.
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This question is related with the article written by Neuwinger, Nick et al. entitled “Underfilling of vacuum blood collection tubes leads to increased lactate dehydrogenase activity in serum and heparin plasma samples,” by examining the impact of blood collection techniques (venipuncture vs. IV catheterization) on hemolysis index and potassium concentration in samples. I seek to understand its implications for sample quality and laboratory testing.
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The impact of different blood collection methods, such as intravenous catheterization versus venipuncture, on the potassium concentration and hemolysis index in serum and heparin plasma samples are observed. Comprehending these distinctions is essential for evaluating sample quality and guaranteeing dependable laboratory testing outcomes. When interpreting hemolysis and potassium levels, laboratories should take the technique of blood collection into account. Appropriate quality control procedures should be put in place to minimize pre-analytical impacts and preserve the integrity of test results.
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This inquiry pertains to the study of Neuwinger, Nick et al. entitled "Underfilling of vacuum blood collection tubes results in elevated lactate dehydrogenase activity in serum and heparin plasma samples." I would like to know the effects of volume variation in blood samples on the accuracy of total cholesterol measurements in serum and heparin plasma samples.
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A number of things, including thawed samples, cracked vials, improperly sealed vials, empty vials, and severe hemolysis, can lead to unsatisfactory specimens. Inadequate specimens are recorded on the transmittal using the sample condition codes when they happen infrequently.
Reference. Kwiterovich, Peter. Laboratory Procedure Manual of Total Choloesterol.
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In the laboratory, blood samples are often used to test for LDH. However, I want to know which sample is better as they are both blood samples.
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According to Farhana and Lappin (2023), serum is typically considered a superior sample to plasma for lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) testing. This preference comes from the fact that serum, which is acquired by letting blood clot and then extracting the clot, lessens the possibility of interference from cells generating LDH during processing samples. On the other hand, hemolysis can occur in anticoagulant-collected plasma, leading to erroneously high LDH values. The serum reduces errors related to cell breakdown, hence ensuring a more accurate and consistent assessment of LDH activity.
Farhana, A., & Lappin, S. L. (2023, May 1). Biochemistry, lactate dehydrogenase. StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK557536/
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The entire point of Oguzhan Zengi's study was to improve turnaround time and sample quality by exploring the less traditional option of plasma for the above reasons. The results did not suggest an outright replacement of serum, but showed many positives and reasoning for such.
In a way, one might say plasma has been neglected. This begs the question: what other potential sample variations could be used to improve TAT and sample quality?
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Beyond plasma and serum, several other sample variations could be explored to improve turnaround time (TAT) and sample quality in clinical or research settings. Here are a few possibilities:
1. Urine: Urine samples are readily obtainable and contain valuable diagnostic information. Further exploration could lead to quicker and more effective testing methods for a range of conditions.
2. Saliva: Saliva samples are easily accessible and offer diverse biomarkers for diagnostics. Enhancing our understanding and handling of saliva could streamline testing processes, improving accuracy and efficiency.
3. CSF: CSF samples hold critical insights into neurological conditions. Advancements in CSF sample processing and analysis techniques could enhance diagnostic speed and reliability for brain-related issues.
4. Stool: Stool samples provide significant insights into gastrointestinal health. Research into improved handling and analysis methods could optimize diagnostic accuracy and turnaround time for gut-related conditions.
5. Sweat: Sweat contains diagnostic markers for various conditions. Investigating enhanced methods for sweat sample collection and analysis may expedite and refine diagnostic processes.
6. Tissue: Tissue samples play a crucial role in diagnosing organ-specific diseases. Refining techniques for tissue sample processing and analysis could lead to swifter and more precise disease diagnosis.
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According to the study conducted by Pan et al. (2023) entitled, “Diagnostic Efficacy of serological Antibody detection Tests for Hepatitis Delta Virus: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis,” what are the specimen considerations for the patient's serum in order to examine HDV antibodies present?
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Hello Caitlin! According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (2009), here are the following specimen considerations:
  • No special instructions such as fasting or special diets are required. Diurnal variation is not a major consideration.
  • Specimens may be serum, recalcified plasma, or plasma. Serum specimens may be collected using regular red-top or serum-separator Vacutainers.
  • The required sample volume is 10 μL for the assay; 1.0 mL will permit repeat analyses as well as other testing.
  • Specimens should be stored in plastic vials and sealed tightly to prevent desiccation of the sample.
  • Serum or plasma samples are collected aseptically to minimize hemolysis and bacterial contamination.
  • Samples are stored in labeled 2 mL Nalgene cryovials or equivalent.
  • The serum is best stored frozen, and freeze/thaw cycles should be kept to a minimum. Store samples at 4-8°C for no more than 5 days.
  • For storage >5 days, samples are held at -20°C. Samples held in long-term storage at -20°C are indexed in the database for easy retrieval.
  • Specimens are rejected if contaminated, hemolyzed, or stored improperly. However, rejection is done only after consultation with NCHS.
  • Avoid multiple freeze/thaw cycles.
References:
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. (2009). Biosafety in Microbiological and Biomedical Laboratories (5th ed.) [E-book]. HHS Publication No. (CDC) 21-1112. https://www.cdc.gov/labs/pdf/CDC-BiosafetymicrobiologicalBiomedicalLaboratories-2009-P.pdf
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The journal published by Oguzhan Zengi entitled "The transition from gel separatory serum tubes to lithium heparin gel tubes in the clinical laboratory" aims to assess the viability of replacing serum with plasma samples. The study's lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) measurement conjures discrepancies in values between plasma and serum samples.
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The factors to be considered in order to avoid discrepancies in values for LDH measurement include variation in tube brands, plasma contamination with platelets, fragmentation of platelets, and fragmentation of erythrocytes. Platelet residues and lysis in plasma, as well as hemolysis and coagulation in serum, can also have an influence on LDH measurement. Overall, the type of sample, preparation process, and tube selection must all be considered in order to obtain an accurate evaluation and interpretation for your LDH measurement.
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The journal "The transition from gel separatory serum tubes to lithium heparin gel tubes in the clinical laboratory" aims to assess the viability of replacing serum with plasma samples in different clinical chemistry and immunoassay tests, as well as to investigate the implications of turnaround time (TAT) and sample quality during the transition.
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Lithium heparinized plasma (LIH) tubes can improve the sample quality, reduce aspiration errors, and decrease the turnaround time (TAT). In the study before switching to plasma, serum samples had 0.88% aspiration errors, but after switching to plasma, they had 0.44%. Aspiration errors are statistically significant, as they're one of the factors that can influence TAT. The median values from sample acceptance to device entry decreased from 21 to 17 minutes after switching to plasma samples, thus improving the TAT. These factors open up the possibility for improved quality healthcare and reduce the workload of hospital staff.
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In the journal entitled "The Transition from Gel Separatory Serum Tubes to Lithium Heparin Gel Tubes in the Clinical Laboratory", how does transitioning from gel separatory serum tubes to lithium heparin gel tubes impact clinical laboratory efficiency and accuracy?
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Lithium heparin gel tubes are now used in the laboratory due to several advantages over other types of blood collection tubes. In order to avoid clotting or thrombin activation, which in turn stops the synthesis of fibrin from fibrinogen, heparin stimulates the inhibition of thrombin and Factor X. It is advised to use lithium heparin since it is the least likely to affect the outcomes of tests for other ions, such as sodium. Transitioning from gel separatory serum tubes to lithium heparin gel tubes can enhance clinical laboratory efficiency and accuracy by reducing processing time, minimizing sample interference, improving sample quality, and expanding the range of tests that can be performed reliably. However, proper training and adaptation to new protocols are crucial to fully realize these benefits.
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This question is derived from an article entitled "Underfilling of vacuum blood collection tubes leads to increased lactate dehydrogenase activity in serum and heparin plasma samples" by Neuwinger et. al. in 2019. I want to know how certain anticoagulants affect the lactate dehydrogenase activity in plasma or serum samples.
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The preservation of enzyme activity is the main connection between the anticoagulants used in blood collection tubes and the lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) activity in plasma or serum samples. Cells contain an enzyme called LDH, whose activity can be evaluated in serum or plasma samples to determine whether a disease or tissue damage has occurred.
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The research "The transition from gel separatory serum tubes to lithium heparin gel tubes in the clinical laboratory" is a study that aims to assess the viability of replacing serum samples with plasma samples in various clinical chemistry and immunoassay tests and to examine the implications of turnaround time (TAT) and sample quality during the transition process and a result of the study shows that there is a decreased TAT.
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There are previous studies that show the same result to the TAT. Some studies such as the study of Hetu et al. and Ramakers et al. For Hetu et al.it studied Potassium test and concluded a significant decrease in the average time in terms of sample reception and result confirmation. This is similar to Ramakers et al. wherein there is a decreased median TAT with the use of Barricor tubes. Another study is from Badiou et al. that reported the same result using Barricor tubes instead of gel LIH tubes. In this study, the TAT was reduced due to the use of plasma instead of serum that needs to be clotted which is the factor that increases the TAT.
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Oguzhan Zhengi, the sole author of the journal entitled “The Transition from Gel Separatory Serum Tubes to Lithium Heparin Gel Tubes in the Clinical Laboratory”, stated that a specific criteria was adhered to when handling the specimens. Throughout the Methodology, Zhengi explained the Clinical and Laboratory Standards Institute (CLSI) Criteria - GP34-A:2010. What was the content of this specific criteria and how did he utilize this document?
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Oguzhan Zhengi utilized the Clinical and Laboratory Standards Institute (CLSI) Criteria - GP34-A:2010 upon handling his specimens for testing. It is a consensus-based medical laboratory standards which is most widely recognized resource for continually improving testing quality, safety, and efficiency. In the Methodology part of the journal, he stated that recommendations of the tube manufacturers were followed concerning tube inversions, clotting time, and centrifugation characteristics while still adhering to the said CLSI criteria. The CLSI Criteria utilized contains specific guidelines on the validation and verification of tubes for venous and capillary blood specimen collections. Through this, the samples were centrifuged for 1800 g for 10 minutes and visual inspection of sample quality indicators which included hemolysis, lipemia, icterus, fibrin, and clots were taken into careful consideration.
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This question aims to understand the rationale behind the study, which likely sought to evaluate the comparability of gel separator serum and LIH plasma tubes in clinical chemistry and immunoassay tests. Additionally, it seeks insights into the study's findings concerning sample quality and turnaround time during the transition from serum to plasma samples, shedding light on the efficiency and reliability of different tube types in laboratory procedures.
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Most tests showed no significant difference between the serum and LIH tubes. For some analytes, total error (TE) values exceeded the total allowable error (TEa) limits. Insulin TE value did not exceed TEa but consumed nearly all its error budget. Plasma tubes could be used instead of serum tubes for most tests, except for lactate dehydrogenase (LDH). Plasma tubes improved sample quality, reduced the incidence of aspiration errors, and decreased TAT in the emergency laboratory.
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In the journal, "THE TRANSITION FROM GEL SEPARATORY SERUM TUBES TO LITHIUM HEPARIN GEL TUBES IN THE CLINICAL LABORATORY" by Oğuzhan Zengi, how do the results of Bland-Altman plots and regression analysis contribute to our understanding of the comparability between serum tubes and LIH tubes for different clinical chemistry and immunoassay tests, and what implications do these findings have for clinical practice?
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In order to assess the comparability of blood tubes and LIH tubes for clinical chemistry and immunoassay testing, this question explores the interpretation and consequences of statistical studies, such as Bland-Altman plots and regression analysis. Additionally, it is a graphical representation of the difference between two variables, such as the effectiveness of lithium heparinized plasma and serum in clinical chemistry and immunoassays. Through the clarification of statistical subtleties and the identification of noteworthy discoveries, scholars and researchers can enhance our comprehension of the fundamental mechanisms propelling distinctions—or absence thereof—between the two varieties of tubes. The scientific community, clinicians, and laboratory staff who choose tests and interpret results can all benefit from this research. Regression analysis and Bland-Altman plots, however, demonstrated that the majority of tests did not demonstrate any appreciable variations between serum and LIH. Nevertheless, the biological variation (BV) database's tolerance for error restrictions (TEa) was surpassed by a few analytes in this specific journal.
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This question is derived from an article discussing the impact of underfilling of vacuum blood collection tubes on lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) activity in serum and heparin plasma samples
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Underfilling of blood collection tubes occurs during the pre-analytical phase. However, this phase of testing is considered the most vulnerable part of the total testing process and poses the greatest challenges to laboratory professionals (Simundic & Lippi, 2012). It is also regarded as less standardized and a significant contributor to laboratory errors (Neuwinger et al., 2019). Therefore, continuous education, certification, and training of healthcare practitioners in blood drawing responsibilities, along with improved standardization of phlebotomy techniques and dissemination of operative guidelines, would enhance the chance of obtaining specimens of consistent quality (Lippi et al., 2006).
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The cross-match test is an in vitro test to determine the presence of anti-lymphocyte antibody to donor cell antigens (lymphocytotoxic antibody) in serum of an individual with preformed antibodies to donor cells. Examples are recipients for an organ transplant or a couple with a history of recurrent spontaneous abortions. The recipient serum is incubated with donor lymphocytes and the binding can be detected by flow cytometry analysis (with fluorescent conjugated reagent). If cytotoxic antibodies are present in maternal serum, they will combine with the surface antigens of donor lymphocytes; the amount of fluorescence on the cells (percentage of positive T or B cells), as measured by flow cytometry, is proportional to the amount of antibody (flow cytometry cross-match).
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I would suggest using mouse anti-CD3 and CD19 labeled with fluorescence (FL1) for B and T cells, while using a anti-human Fc labeled with a different FL2 to evaluate the pre-exist anti-lymphocyte antibody. It will be a consecutive gating of first gate is SSC/FSC, second gate is FL1/FL2, while double positive cells are what you want.
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This question is related to article authored by Neuwinger et. al. in 2019 entitled "Underfilling of vacuum blood collection tubes leads to increased lactate dehydrogenase activity in serum and heparin plasma samples.” Lactate dehydrogenase derives from many tissue sources making it a non-specific enzyme biomarker. In line with these, I want to seek out if the level of lactate dehydrogenase isoenzymes are affected by underfilled tubes?
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Underfilled vacuum blood collection tubes can potentially affect the isoenzyme level of lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) due to several reasons:
Hemolysis: Underfilled tubes may increase the risk of hemolysis during blood collection or transportation. Hemolysis, the rupture of red blood cells, can release cellular contents, including LDH, into the plasma or serum. This release can artificially elevate LDH levels, affecting the accuracy of LDH isoenzyme measurements.
Sample Dilution: Underfilled tubes may contain less anticoagulant or clot activator, leading to insufficient blood volume for proper mixing. Inadequate mixing can result in sample dilution or improper clotting, potentially affecting the accuracy of LDH measurements and isoenzyme analysis.
Incomplete Fill: Underfilled tubes may not provide sufficient blood volume for proper sample analysis, particularly in automated laboratory systems. Incomplete filling can lead to inaccurate measurements or incomplete testing, affecting the reliability of LDH isoenzyme results.
Clot Formation: Inadequate filling of blood collection tubes may result in improper clot formation or partial clotting. Clots can trap cellular components, including LDH, affecting the distribution of LDH isoenzymes in the sample and potentially leading to erroneous results.
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This question is derived from the journal article “The Transition from Gel Separatory Serum to Lithium Heparin Gel Tubes in the Clinical Laboratory,” written by Oguzhan Zengi. The journal elaborated on the importance of switching to lithium heparin gel tubes in most clinical chemistry and immunoassay tests due to improved sample quality and decreased turnaround time (TAT) in the emergency laboratory.
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As mentioned by the authors of a journal titled “The transition from gel separatory serum to lithium heparin gel tubes in the clinical laboratory” the reason for a negative bias for LDH was not fully understood. However, it is believed that LDH may be released from platelets and other cells into plasma during centrifugation. However, as claimed by Peake, M. J., Pejakovic, M., Alderman, M. J., Penberthy, L. A., and Walmsley, R. N., in a journal article titled “Mechanism of platelet interference with measurement of lactate dehydrogenase activity in plasma,” platelets are said to impede lactate dehydrogenase activity in plasma under conditions of low osmolality. However, their observations challenge these claims, suggesting that what appears as inhibition may actually stem from optical interference by platelets during the reaction.
Their investigation indicates that when platelet lysis is prevented and optical interference is corrected for, both platelet-rich plasma and platelet-poor plasma, as well as serum, exhibit similar levels of lactate dehydrogenase activity. Additionally, it’s worth noting that platelet contamination can lead to unexpected issues when assessing lactate dehydrogenase with centrifugal analyzers. As mentioned in the journal article, the results may vary significantly depending on the volume of diluent added with the sample, potentially causing both higher and lower readings, introducing considerable within-run fluctuations in activity.
Furthermore, platelets can scatter light during the LDH assay, leading to optical interference that affects the accuracy of the measurement. This interference can result in falsely elevated or depressed LDH levels, depending on the extent of platelet contamination and the specific assay method used. In addition, platelets contain LDH enzymes, which can contribute to the overall LDH activity measured in a plasma specimen. If platelets are not adequately removed or lysed during sample processing, their LDH activity may artificially inflate the total LDH measurement, leading to inaccurate results.
Reference: Peake MJ, Pejakovic M, Alderman MJ, Penberthy LA, Walmsley RN. Mechanism of platelet interference with measurement of lactate dehydrogenase activity in plasma. Clin Chem. 1984 Apr;30(4):518-20. PMID: 6705193.
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I want to understand what the Warburg effect is and how it affects LDH activity in cancer.
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The Warburg Effect characterizes the metabolic shift in cancer cells, prioritizing increased glucose uptake and lactate fermentation despite functional mitochondria, to fuel growth and survival (Liberti et. al., 2016). Glucose metabolism generates ATP crucial for cellular energy needs and yields lactate or CO2 as end products depending on full mitochondrial oxidation or fermentation. Lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) catalyzes the conversion of pyruvate to lactate, regenerating NADH to NAD+ (Alegre et al., 2015). Moreover, in tumors, increased glucose uptake leads to elevated lactate production. In conclusion, the Warburg Effect does not directly increase LDH levels, instead, LDH activity is central to the metabolic rewiring observed in cancer cells undergoing the Warburg Effect resulting in increased levels of LDH in serum and plasma.
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Liberti MV, Locasale JW. The Warburg Effect: How Does it Benefit Cancer Cells? Trends Biochem Sci. 2016 Mar;41(3):211-218. doi: 10.1016/j.tibs.2015.12.001. Epub 2016 Jan 5. Erratum in: Trends Biochem Sci. 2016 Mar;41(3):287. Erratum in: Trends Biochem Sci. 2016 Mar;41(3):287. PMID: 26778478; PMCID: PMC4783224.
Alegre, E., Sammamed, M., Fernández-Landázuri, S., Zubiri, L., & González, Á. (2015). Circulating biomarkers in malignant melanoma. In Advances in clinical chemistry (pp. 47–89). https://doi.org/10.1016/bs.acc.2014.12.002
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I am looking suitable standard lipid for quantifying phosphatidylethanolamine (PE) from serum samples. As you may be aware, standard lipids, such as those derived from different sources (Soy, egg, brain etc), can have variations in their double bond positions. Could you please provide insights or recommendations on how to choose the most suitable standard lipid for our specific application?
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Hi Keller, Thanks for your reply!!
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I am planning to get some blood from patients to perform RNA seq (circular RNA which requires deep sequencing). I am wondering if anyone can share the protocol with details. I am also wondering about the amount of blood (whole / plasma / serum) to isolate RNA for deep sequencing. Thank you so much for your help!
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You can use EasyPure® Genomic DNA Kit, 200ul from clotted blood is enough to start your protocol then follow the pamphlet protocol
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I am planning an immunoprecipitation experiment using Mouse monoclonal [11C9] to Mannan Binding Lectin/MBL (ab26277) antibody to immunoprecipitate for MBL2 in human serum. There are many protocols online for immunoprecipitation utilising cell cultures, where the recommended amount of cells tends to be 10^6 to 10^7, however not so many that utilise human serum.
Reading online, the optimal total protein load of immunoprecipitation seems to be 1-5 mg/mL, with 0.1 mg/mL being the minimum recommended load. Considering that the normal range for total protein in human serum is 60-83g/L (average: 71.5 g/L), loading 5 mg of total protein for immunoprecipitation would mean I need 69.9 mL. Alternatively, loading the minimum (0.1 mg), I would need 1.395 mL of human serum based on my calculations.
I cannot afford to be using 1.395 mL of human serum in my experiment due to lack of sample volume. I was wondering if anyone can share the amount of human serum they've used for immunoprecipitation before, where it was successful. Thank you in advance.
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You're correct that Ab often perform quite differently in Western versus ELISA. But it's something you can try.
What makes you think your antiserum works at all? if you have any titer measurement you can use that to estimate a working dilution for IP.
Or you could always just guess. A dilution of 1:1000 should work, if the antiserum is reasonably potent. You may be able to go down to 1/10k or 1/100k.
Follow your local rules for use of human tissue in lab research. I recommend you always heat treat human serum to kill viruses, and then still treat the reagent as potentially infectious. My niece caught HepB from handling a human serum sample is a hospital lab.
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I am using these product from ATCC (Primary Uterine Fibroblast Cells; Normal, Human (HUF) ATCC Cat. No. PCS-460-010 ) with their recommended media and with Growth Kit-Low Serum aacording to their recommendation. But I found the expression of alpha SMA, FAP and other CAF marker even without activation by cancer cell conditioned media. Please suggest me what to do ?
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I feel these normal fibroblasts are getting activated during invitro propagation. There is a possibility that the culture conditions may be contributing to the activation of these normal fibroblasts. These fibroblasts can get activated in response to various stimuli present in the culture environment. One such stimuli being the growth factors present in the culture media or some kind of stress experienced by the cells in culture.
So, try to find the source and adopt measures to minimize the activation of these cells.
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Hi everyone! I am used to doing BCA test while doing protein extraction from cells or tissue, but do you usually use it while working with serum, i.e. mouse serum? Or do you just consider your results from ELISA or dot blot according to 1 ul of serum?
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Malcolm Nobre thank you very much for your reply! It's clear now.
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The Advanced reduced serum DMEM/F12 works fine for my cell cultures, even without adding any serum at all. However, I'd like to find a medium similar to Advanced DMEM/F12 with a lower (only around 0.2-0.3 mM calcium concentration. The calcium concentration in Advanced DMEM/F12 is 1,05 mM).
The DMEM no calcium for example contains less ingredients (for instance proteins) than Advanced DMEM/F12 and is a "conventional" medium which requires 5-10% FBS supplement.
I'm looking for a medium with similar ingredients as Advanced reduced serum DMEM/F12 but no more than 0.3mM calcium , and which works without FCS supplementation or requires only very low FBS supplementation.
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You can 1:1 mix the calcium-free DMEM with F-12 medium (0.3 mM). The final calcium chloride concentration will become 0.15 mM.
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In the journal entitled “The Transition from Gel Separatory Serum Tubes to Lithium Heparin Gel Tubes in the Clinical Laboratory”, how is turnaround time measured in the study, and how did the transition into lithium heparin tubes affect its value, and why?
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According to Zengi (2023), turnaround time (TAT) is the time interval starting the time from request to report or acceptance of the report. The utilization of lithium heparin tubes leads to a significantly reduced and improved TAT due to the partial reduction of centrifugation time to produce plasma compared to serum samples.
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I am using mouse serum to block Fc receptors before staining, for flow cytometry. My question is if I should also add the serum to compensation beads before staining them, so that the cells and the beads go through the same processing.
Thank you very much in advance!
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Not required. Compensation beads are small particles that are pre-coated with antibodies recognizing species-specific antibody light chains, and there is no Fc-binding antibodies involved. So, if you add serum to the compensation beads before staining nothing is going to change. You will be simply wasting mouse serum.
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Hi all, I used Merk panels for luminex200 analysis on CSF, but of the same analytes I now don't have the corresponding validated panels on serum. Therefore I was wondering if possible to redo the same measurements using the luminex200 (millipore) with bio rad panels (or similar, proposals welcome)
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Yes. However, those commercial panel products are independently validated. So your results should be qualitatively good, but you will require new calibration curves for quantitative analysis.
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Any complications? What is the acceptable range?
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Najla Saeed Dar-Odeh thank you for the kind words!
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Hi everyone
I am currently investigating the effect of iron deficiency on neuronal cells (SHYSY5Y to be exact). For this, I need to create an environment of iron-depletion in-vitro. While past publications have used iron chelators in media, this involves considerable quality control. This is why I am choosing to mimic an iron-deficient environment through serum starvation.
I am currently struggling to find publications outlining a validated method of serum starvation to achieve this, which would be of great help, as a trial- and error method in the lab is time consuming. Another concern is that other essential nutrients would also be depleted with serum starvation, that may affect any findings and therefore impact the validity of results. I am also interested in any iron-depleted media out there that I could potentially use?
Would greatly appreciate any advice, links to publications or methods I could follow.
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Ruchitha Venkatesh An effective method for preparing iron-deficient cell-culture medium without using chelators involves serum starvation, which mimics an iron-depleted environment. However, this approach may also deplete other essential nutrients, potentially impacting research findings. To address this, you could consider using commercially available iron-depleted media specifically designed for cell culture experiments, ensuring the controlled removal of iron while maintaining essential nutrient levels. Additionally, consulting relevant literature or protocols for serum starvation techniques in neuronal cell cultures may provide valuable insights and guidance for your experiments, reducing the laboratory's need for trial and error.
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In the Journal "The transition from gel separatory serum tubes to lithium heparin gel tubes in the clinical laboratory" the researchers found discrepancies in regard to the effects of plasma insulin but failed to expound on that information. It was included in their limitations that Insulin TE value did not exceed TEa, but it consumed near all its error budget. It was also stated that further studies should also evaluate insulin values at low, normal, and high levels for a more thorough comprehension.
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Plasma insulin refers to the concentration of insulin in the liquid component of blood after it has been separated from the blood cells. When transitioning from Gel Separatory Serum tubes to Lithium Heparin Gel tubes for insulin testing, it's important to understand that Gel Separatory Serum tubes are typically used for serum separation, while Lithium Heparin Gel tubes are used for plasma separation.Insulin testing often requires plasma rather than serum because the gel in the Lithium Heparin Gel tubes helps to prevent clotting, allowing for better separation of plasma. Plasma is the liquid component of blood in which blood cells are suspended, while serum is plasma without clotting factors.The transition to Lithium Heparin Gel tubes for insulin testing ensures better preservation of the sample, reducing the risk of clot formation, and providing accurate results for insulin concentration.
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serum proteomics
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İsmail Emir Akyildiz Meryem wrote they add 15% TFA, so that's probably not a final concentration.
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I have tried 4 IBA1 antibodies and cannot seem to get good staining. Mice were perfused/fixed with PBS/4%PFA. Brains were placed in PFA overnight, and then moved to 30% sucrose and frozen in OCT after sinking. My sections typically tend to be thicker (30um or 35um), but we do sections on slides instead of free-floating due to less handling and integrity of the structures. All of my antibodies work except for these IBA1 antibodies. I have tried permeabilizing with triton and saponin and got similar results. (Fix for 5 minutes on slide with 2% PFA, perm with 0.3% triton 15 min, block with 10% goat serum 30 minutes, then primary and secondary incubations with blocking serum). Antibodies are spun before addition.
Can anyone advise me as to why these IBA1 antibodies are creating so much background at both 1:100 and 1:1000, and why it is not staining the filaments of the microglia? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Have you tried the Wako Iba1 antibody (rabbit)? Most people I know use this antibody with no problems. Your original protocol looks right to me, although with 30 um sections, I think free floating would give you better results (more penetration from all sides). I can't open the image, but based on your tags I assume its for immunofluorescence? Reducing the concentration of the secondary (or even the primary) antibody may reduce background. Also, cutting thinner sections might be better for IF, but if you want to see all of the branching of a single microglia, 30 um is a good thickness.
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Note: Serum isolated extracellular vesicles using immunoprecipitation (magnetic beads)
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Dear Dr. Alaa Selim
EVs from biofluids may be stored at -80 degree C for a period ranging from 7-14 days. It may not affect the protein content during this period of storage.
You may want to refer to the articles attached below.
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This inquiry is related to a 2019 journal article authored by Nick Neuwinger et al., which explores the effect of underfilling vacuum blood collection tubes on the elevation of lactate dehydrogenase activity in both serum and heparin plasma samples. The conclusion drawn is that underfilling tubes causes a larger portion of blood to be aspirated at high velocity, resulting in elevated lactate dehydrogenase levels.
Nick Neuwinger et al. (October 2019) Underfilling of vacuum blood collection tubes leads to increased lactate dehydrogenase activity in serum and heparin plasma samples Retrieved on February 06, 2024 from
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In underfilled blood samples, the activity of lactate dehydrogenase (LD) differs across various collection tubes, with higher LD values observed in heparin plasma (HP) tubes compared to serum (SE) tubes. Specifically, underfilling of blood collection tubes led to higher LD values in both SE (+21.6%) and HP (+28.3%) tubes. This difference in LD activity between SE and HP tubes is important to consider when using LD as a risk stratification parameter, as HP tubes produce higher LD values. Therefore, distinguishing between SE and HP collection tubes is crucial when interpreting LD test results obtained from underfilled blood tubes. Additionally, it is recommended that diagnostic laboratories communicate LD test results from underfilled tubes with an attached comment highlighting the possibility of falsely elevated results.
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Hi, we were told that we could use this panel to measure cytokines in CSF, but the protocol was to use only serum and plasma. We contacted Merk technical service who told us to test some dilutions to find the optimal sample dilution factor. Has anyone used this panel with CSF before? What dilutions were adopted?
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just on a side note. You can run the Olink assays locally either at the
Immunology and Vaccinology laboratory at the Bambino Gesù Children's Hospital, University of Rome Tor Vergata or IRCCS Centro Cardiologico Monzino.
All the best & kind regards,
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glycogen in serum
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Glycogen is not present in serum because it cannot reach the blood as it is a large molecule that cannot pass through the blood vessels. It is a complex polysaccharide of glucose which serves as a form of energy storage. It is mainly synthesized in the liver and muscles. When glucose levels drop in the blood, glycogen is broken down to glucose. This glucose travels around the body through the bloodstream.
When glucose levels surge above a certain level, insulin is released into the blood, and this promotes the glucose in the organs like the liver and muscles to convert it to glycogen and store it. So, you cannot estimate glycogen in serum.
To estimate glycogen levels, you have to perform a biopsy, taking a piece of either muscle or liver tissue.
In case of muscle biopsy sample, collagen, blood, and other non-muscle fibre materials are removed from the sample under a microscope. The sample of muscle fibre (say 2–3 mg) are then weighed and 500µl of 1M HCL is added. After heating for 3 hours at 100°C to hydrolyze the glycogen to glycosyl units and cooling down to room temperature, the solution is then neutralized by adding 267ml Tris/KOH. Finally, 150µl is then analyzed for glucose using a calibrated specialized glycogen assay kit.
You may want to refer to the article attached below for more information.
Please note that it’s hard to measure the total glycogen levels because the levels constantly change depending on the size, eating habits, fitness level and whether or not an individual has recently exercised.
The normal range of glycogen in muscles: 300 to 500 grams.
The normal range of glycogen in liver: 0 to 160 grams.
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JEG-3 cells were cultured in DMEM F-12 medium with 10% FBS and 1% penicillin/streptomycin for 24 h. Cells were serum starved (in DMEM F-12 with 0,1% BSA and 1% penicillin/streptomycin) for 72 h (medium was changed every 48h). Ater 48h without serum the cells were changing their morphology and according to WST-1 test their viability was poor. Do you have any suggestions how to culture cells in conditions without serum?
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The response of mammalian cells to serum starvation will vary ranging from a few mins to a maximum of 48 hours. There are cell lines which can withstand serum starvation for more than 24 hours while others (for instance, primary cultures) may not be able to undergo serum starvation for long hours. Starving cells of serum beyond its capacity may trigger apoptosis and reduce cell survival.
You will be subjecting JEG-3 cells to serum starvation using DMEM F-12 with 0.1% BSA for 72 hours, which is a long duration. The results are clear. JEG-3 cells are not able to withstand serum starvation for more than 48 hours.
So, I would suggest that you try to serum starve your cells with different concentrations of serum namely, 0.5%, 1%, 1.5% ,2% and 2.5% for 72 hours. Do not use BSA. Then check the cells for viability and cell morphology. Choose the best concentration of serum that shows good viability and unchanged morphology for 72 hours.
So, you will have to perform this pilot experiment to determine the lowest serum concentration in the culture medium that will help to keep the cells healthy but not proliferate.
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Hi I'm relatively new to the field,
I would like to minimise sample collection from patients but I need to test cytokines and circulating antibodies in serum while also isolating PBMCs
If I collect blood with with a vacutainer with a red top suited for serological studies can I also extract PBMCs? or should I ask for two tubes red and yellow?
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Here are some of the protocols I found could be of help.
1. Density gradient centrifugation:
  • This is the most widely used method, separating blood components based on their density. Blood is layered on a density gradient medium (e.g., Ficoll-Paque), centrifuged, and distinct layers containing plasma, PBMCs, and red blood cells are collected.
  • Advantages: Well-established technique, relatively high yield of both serum and PBMCs.
  • Disadvantages: Requires specific equipment and reagents, longer processing time compared to some other methods.
2. Single-spin gradient centrifugation:
  • This is a faster variation of the above method, using pre-filled gradient tubes and shorter centrifugation times.
  • Advantages: Faster processing, readily available kits.
  • Disadvantages: Yield might be slightly lower compared to traditional density gradient methods.
3. Immunomagnetic separation:
  • This method employs specific antibodies targeting PBMC surface markers to magnetically isolate them from whole blood.
  • Advantages: High purity of PBMCs, enrichment for specific subpopulations possible.
  • Disadvantages: Can be more expensive compared to other methods, potentially lower overall yield.
4. VACUETTE® CPT™ tubes:
  • These pre-filled tubes contain a gel barrier that separates plasma and PBMCs during centrifugation.
  • Advantages: Convenient and easy to use, good separation of plasma and PBMCs.
  • Disadvantages: Limited volume capacity, potentially lower PBMC yield compared to other methods.
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Total Media constituents:
Media = RPMI and DMEM/F-12
Bovine Calf Serum
Streptomycin
Amphotericin B
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Hello Olayeri Abraham,
No, you cannot autoclave complete cell culture media because complete media is nutrient rich containing all the necessary biological components which will degrade at high temperature during autoclaving.
Instead, you may filter sterilize the media using 0.2um filter which will not only sterilize the media but also preserve it's nutrients that are necessary for cell growth.
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Although Oğuzhan Zengi (2023) has explored the practicality and technical aspects of shifting from gel serum tubes to lithium heparin (LIH) gel tubes in clinical laboratories, there is still a gap in understanding the impact on patient outcomes and healthcare quality.
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The utilization of lithium heparin tubes has the potential to improve the healthcare quality and patient outcomes. Some of the advantages of employing it include enhanced sample quality, a lesser incidence of aspiration errors, and a shorter turnaround time in the emergency lab (Zengi, 2023). Furthermore, plasma contains less interferences than serum, which could give rise to a favorable result. As a result, the transition of gel separator serum tubes to lithium heparin gel tubes may result to a quicker and more accurate result which is advantageous in ensuring that the test result can be reliable when screening, diagnosing and monitoring the patient.
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  • Yuan-hua Wei, Chun-bing Zhang, Xue-wen Yang, Ming-de Ji. (2010) The Feasibility of Using Lithium-Heparin Plasma from a Gel Separator Tube as a Substitute for Serum in Clinical Biochemical Tests. Laboratory Medicine, 41(4), 215–219. https://doi.org/10.1309/LMIXVAI70KS0UWQI
  • Zengi, O. (2023). The transition from gel separatory serum tubes to lithium heparin gel tubes in the clinical laboratory. Journal of Health Sciences and Medicine, 6(5), 998–1009. https://doi.org/10.32322/jhsm.1341282
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The journal paper "The transition from gel separatory serum tubes to lithium heparin tubes in the clinical laboratory" discusses the advantages of lithium heparin over the traditional gel separatory serum tubes, which is the focus of this question is that why the does laboratories still prefer gel separatory serum tubes?
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Compatibility with assays, gel separator serum tubes are widely used and accepted for various laboratory tests. Laboratories often validate their assays using specific tube types, and switching to a different type of tube may require revalidation or adjustment of testing procedures. Next is sample stability, gel separator serum tubes are known for their stability in storing serum samples. The gel barrier effectively separates serum from cells, reducing the risk of hemolysis (breakdown of red blood cells) and preserving the integrity of the sample for longer periods. Ease of use: Gel separator serum tubes are convenient to use, requiring minimal handling compared to tubes containing anticoagulants like lithium heparin. This simplicity can help streamline laboratory workflows and reduce the risk of errors during sample processing. While lithium heparin gel tubes offer advantages such as plasma preparation for certain assays and reduced risk of clot formation, the decision to use a particular tube type depends on the specific requirements of the laboratory, the assays being performed, and considerations related to sample stability, workflow efficiency, and cost-effectiveness.
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The question is based on the findings of a study comparing serum and LIH tubes in clinical chemistry and immunoassay tests. The study suggests that LIH tubes can effectively substitute serum tubes for most tests, except LDH, and that LIH plasma tubes enhance sample quality, reduce turnaround time (TAT), and decrease the incidence of aspiration errors in emergency laboratory settings.
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The findings of the study indicate significant implications for laboratory practices and healthcare quality improvement. Firstly, LIH tubes can be utilized as effective substitutes for serum tubes in most clinical chemistry and immunoassay tests, except for LDH. Additionally, the adoption of LIH plasma tubes can lead to improved sample quality, reduced turnaround time (TAT), and decreased incidence of aspiration errors in emergency laboratory settings. Integrating LIH tubes into clinical laboratory practices has the potential to enhance healthcare quality by improving sample quality, reducing TAT, and alleviating the workload of laboratory staff.