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Secondary metabolites are organic compounds that are not directly involved in the normal growth, development, or reproduction of an organism. Unlike primary metabolites, absence of secondary metabolites does not result in immediate death, but rather in long-term impairment of the organism's survivability, fecundity, or aesthetics, or perhaps in no significant change at all.
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I am trying to extract secondary metabolites from liquid cultures of actinobacteria/actinomycetes in order to test its antimicrobial potential against pathogenic bacteria. When using the rotary evaporator (at 50ºC, and cold bath at 10ºC) I can't evaporate all the solvent, leaving a liquid residue. I tried raising the temperature to 60ºC, but it also didn't work. During a mental breakdown, I decided to put this residue in the freezer, and I was surprised to see that it froze, since the freezing point of ethyl acetate is -84°C. Does this mean that this residue is aqueous? Can I freeze-dry it, or will it degrade my sample? Or is this residue really ethyl acetate that magically froze and will ruin my freeze-dryer? Or are my metabolites simply liquid? Or should I give up on my Master's (lol)? Thank you in advance, any help is welcome!
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The residue from your ethyl acetate extraction likely contains water or polar compounds, which is why it froze. Consider verifying its composition through methods like TLC or NMR, and you can proceed with freeze-drying to preserve your metabolites while removing water.
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Bacteria, Genome Sequence, BGs activation and secondary metabolites
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Thank you for your reply
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I want to know all secondary metabolites which are found in these plant
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by the links of papers Muhammad Iftikhar
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There is statement of Callus producing less secondary metabolite as it is undifferentiated cell. Does differentiated tissue like shoot/root from plant tissue culture produce more yield of secondary metabolite.
Why does differentiated produce more than undifferentiated cells.
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Yes, differentiated tissues like shoots and roots from plant tissue cultures can generally produce higher yields of secondary metabolites compared to callus, which is undifferentiated tissue. This difference in metabolite production largely stems from the unique structure and functionality of differentiated cells, which is absent in undifferentiated callus tissue. Here’s a breakdown of why differentiated tissues tend to yield more secondary metabolites:
  1. Specialized Cellular Structures: Differentiated tissues such as roots, shoots, or leaves have specialized cell structures that are directly involved in secondary metabolite synthesis. For instance, glandular trichomes, which are present on the surface of leaves or stems, often contain high concentrations of essential oils and other secondary metabolites. These structures are absent in callus tissue.
  2. Enzyme Pathway Localization: Secondary metabolite synthesis often involves complex biosynthetic pathways that are compartmentalized in specific organelles (e.g., vacuoles, plastids) or within specialized cells in differentiated tissues. Callus tissue lacks this cellular organization, so it cannot efficiently localize or accumulate certain metabolites.
  3. Differential Gene Expression: Genes encoding enzymes responsible for secondary metabolite biosynthesis are often more actively expressed in differentiated tissues due to tissue-specific regulatory factors. Callus tissue may lack the necessary signals or regulatory mechanisms to trigger these pathways effectively.
  4. Environmental and Hormonal Responsiveness: Differentiated tissues respond more robustly to environmental signals or phytohormones, which can further enhance secondary metabolite production. In vitro culture systems can use this by exposing shoots or roots to elicitors (e.g., jasmonic acid, UV light) to stimulate metabolite production.
Due to these factors, culturing differentiated tissues or even using organ cultures (e.g., root or shoot cultures) is often a better strategy for enhancing the yield of secondary metabolites in plant tissue culture setups.
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I am working on MCF7 cell for anti-cancer purpose and I want to prepare the drug (secondary metabolites extracted from Aspergillus niger but these compounds didn’t identify yet) and I already downloaded my compounds with silver nanoparticles
My first question is which solvent is better with these compounds with nanoparticles is DMSO or Ethanol or FBS? or PPS And I want the exactly preparation method how i calculate the the quantities of compound powder and the quantity of solvent all these details
my second question is how exactly prepared like if there is centrifuge or vortex or filter (i want details )
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Nail Besli I downloaded my compounds with silver nanoparticles by green synthesis and I don't know yet which the name of the compound yet I deal with an unknown compound
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Dear Researchers
I am an Algerian PhD student in biology, and I study some biological activities and secondary metabolites of some fungi. I desperately seek a foreign laboratory that provides LC-MS/MS services for PhD students and researchers.
Do you have reliable laboratory addresses that can do LC-MS/MS analysis of lichenic polyphenols?
I appreciate all your suggestions and help.
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Dear Professor Phil
Thank you, I appreciate a lot your help. I'll try to contact them as soon as possible.
Cordially
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what all parameters can be optimized to get maximum product in the organic layer after extraction
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In this case, the organic solvent might be optimized. Hexane, ethyl acetate, dichloromethane, ether...
That's probably as good as you'll get without more detail. Also consider solid phase extraction.
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use of ethyl acetate as a organic solvent has proven to give good product after extraction along with use of NaCl. Currently with the same system there has been enormous loss which one cannot understand, any thoughts on this
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Loss during extraction with ethyl acetate and NaCl can result from:
  1. Emulsion Formation: Prevent emulsions by adding alcohol, centrifuging, or mixing gently.
  2. Volatile Compound Loss: Use a rotary evaporator at low temperatures under reduced pressure.
  3. Poor Phase Separation: Increase NaCl concentration to improve organic-aqueous separation.
  4. Inadequate pH: Adjust the pH to optimize metabolite partitioning into the organic phase.
  5. Low Solvent Affinity: Test other solvents or mixtures if ethyl acetate isn’t efficient.
  6. Incorrect Solvent Volume: Optimize the solvent-to-sample ratio for better extraction.
These adjustments should reduce the loss and improve extraction efficiency.
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I work on MCF7 cell cell for anticaner purpose and I wa to do drug preperation
the drug ( secondary metabolites extracted from Aspergillus) My question which solvent is better with these secodary metabolites DMSO or ethonal or FBS ? And I want exactly the method for preparation like if there is a centrfige step or just use virtex and amounts of powder of compounds and amount of solvent all these details
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The choice of solvent for dissolving secondary metabolites extracted from Aspergillus for use on MCF7 cells can depend on the solubility of the metabolites and the intended use. Here's a general guideline for preparing these compounds:
Solvent Selection
  1. DMSO (Dimethyl Sulfoxide)Advantages: Excellent solvent for many organic compounds, including secondary metabolites. Disadvantages: Can be toxic to cells at higher concentrations. Only at High concentrations. Recommended Use: Typically used at concentrations of ≤0.1% in cell culture to minimize toxicity.
  2. Ethanol Advantages: Good solvent for a wide range of compounds, less toxic than DMSO at higher concentrations. Disadvantages: Can still affect cell viability and behavior at higher concentrations. Recommended Use: Typically used at concentrations of ≤0.1% in cell culture to minimize toxicity.
  3. FBS (Fetal Bovine Serum)Advantages: Biologically relevant, less likely to be toxic to cells. Disadvantages: Limited solubility for many compounds, can introduce variability due to the complex nature of serum. Recommended Use: Typically not used as a primary solvent but can be used to dilute the drug further after initial dissolution in DMSO or ethanol.
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I am trying to find out a topic on which i can write a review as the plants i am woking with have lots of recent reviews so what to select now ,i dont know..
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This is typical botany field research I think. But I want to do review in isolation of plant secondary metabolites in medicinal plants or family.. can u suggest any topic..
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I was reading papers on plant secondary metabolites and their applications and many of the papers/books I read, have the point that plant-based medicines which are the result of application of phytochemicals/PSMs, have little to no side effects. How much truth is there in this statement?
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"Sola dosis facit venenum" 'the poison is the dose, not the substance in itself' is universal also for plants.
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Hi everyone! I am working with bacteria and fungal collected from marine sediments. I would to know the methodology since the preparation of biomass until the extraction and stored of secondary metabolites,
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Marine sediment samples are collected, and bacteria and fungi are isolated using standard microbiological techniques. The isolated strains are cultured in appropriate liquid media, and the biomass is harvested, washed, and freeze-dried. The dried biomass is then extracted using organic solvents like ethyl acetate or methanol, with sonication and overnight incubation. The crude extracts are concentrated under vacuum, transferred to pre-weighed vials, and the solvent is completely evaporated. The extracted secondary metabolites are weighed and stored at -20°C or -80°C for further analysis and characterization.
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I have performed GC-MS analysis of Phytochemicals from a medicinal plants and also identified compound using NIST library. After NIST identification, I have a list of compounds. I am constructing a phytoconstituent table for manuscript which include compound name, retention time, area percentage, molecular formula and nature of compounds. I am trying to identify the class/nature of phytochemicals (like flavonoids, carotenoids, phenols or polyphenols, glycosides, tannins etc). For that, I am searching each compounds on databases like PlantaeDB, IMPPAT 2.0, website like MedChemExpress and also literature search. Some compounds can be find here but many of the are not to be found anywhere.
1. How to identify the class of phytochemicals or secondary metabolites after GC_MS and NIST identification?
2. Some compounds are repeated with different retention time and Similarity index. Which one to include and on what basis?
3. In one extract, more than 60 compounds are identified. Should I include them all for manuscript or can I select the important and bioactive compounds only?
Very much thankful for your help!
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Identifying the class of phytochemicals and determining which compounds to include in your manuscript after GC-MS and NIST identification involves a systematic approach. Here are the steps to address your queries:
1. Identifying the Class of Phytochemicals
To identify the class of phytochemicals or secondary metabolites, you can follow these steps:
a. Database Searches:
- PlantaeDB and IMPPAT are good starting points. Ensure you are using the correct chemical names and synonyms.
- PubChem and ChemSpider can also be useful for finding information about the chemical structure and its known classes.
b. Literature Search:
- Use databases like Google Scholar, PubMed, and ScienceDirect to search for scientific articles related to the identified compounds. Keywords like "phytochemical class" or "secondary metabolite class" along with the compound name can help.
c. Chemical Structure Analysis:
- Analyze the chemical structure using software tools like ChemDraw or MarvinSketch to predict the class based on known structural features of flavonoids, carotenoids, phenols, etc.
d. Expert Consultation:
- If certain compounds are hard to classify, consider consulting with a phytochemist or a researcher specializing in natural products chemistry.
2. Handling Repeated Compounds
When you have repeated compounds with different retention times and similarity indices, consider the following:
a. Consistency Check:
- Check the consistency of identification across different runs. If the same compound is identified consistently with a high similarity index, it is likely accurate.
b. Retention Time Comparison:
- Retention time differences can sometimes indicate different isomers or derivatives. Compare the retention times and the similarity indices to choose the most reliable identification.
c. Reporting:
- If the similarity index is significantly different, consider reporting both and discussing the possible reasons (isomerism, different sources of the compound within the plant, etc.).
3. Selection of Compounds for the Manuscript
Including all identified compounds versus selecting important ones depends on the focus of your manuscript:
a. Relevance and Impact:
- Include compounds that are known to have significant biological or pharmacological activity relevant to your study.
b. Novelty:
- Highlight compounds that are newly identified or have unique properties not commonly reported.
c. Focused Analysis:
- For a more focused analysis, you can prioritize compounds based on their relative abundance (area percentage), biological significance, and the objectives of your study.
d. Supplementary Data:
- Consider including the complete list of compounds in supplementary materials while discussing the key bioactive compounds in the main text.
Practical Steps:
1. Data Organization:
- Create a comprehensive table of all identified compounds with their retention times, area percentages, molecular formulas, and similarity indices.
2. Class Identification:
- Use a combination of database searches, literature reviews, and chemical structure analysis to classify each compound.
3. Selection Criteria:
- Define clear criteria for selecting compounds (e.g., similarity index threshold, area percentage, known bioactivity).
4. Documentation:
- Clearly document the methods used for identification and classification to ensure reproducibility and transparency.
By following these steps, you can systematically identify the classes of phytochemicals, choose which repeated compounds to include, and decide on the most relevant compounds for your manuscript.
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the query centers on determining the most efficient and precise latest technology available in the market, capable of swiftly analyzing complex mixtures while maintaining a high level of accuracy in metabolite identification.
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The identification of secondary metabolites .Go far the GC- MS LC- MS ,HPTLC and HPLC. This all help identify the compounds persent the plant
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currently conducting a study trying to figure out the secondary metabolites from bacteria.
Question #1: does it make sense if our flow goes from: extraction > TLC > SEC > TLC > antibiotic susceptibility test > MS to identify the specific metabolite.
we lack time and would like to seek an alternative for SEC (it takes 7-14 days here in our partner lab).
Question #2: is Gravity Column Chromatography a decent alternative for SEC?
thank you for all your help 🙏
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For SEC (size exclusion chromatography), can you use Sephadex LH-20? This can be run in an open column (gravity column).
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How are these exploited in biotechnological applications?
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The production of secondary metabolites in microorganisms is governed by various genetic mechanisms, including regulatory networks, biosynthetic gene clusters (BGCs), and environmental signals. Here's an overview of these mechanisms and how they are exploited in biotechnological applications:
1. Regulatory Networks: Microorganisms regulate the expression of secondary metabolite genes in response to environmental cues via complex regulatory networks involving transcription factors, activators, and repressors.
2. Biosynthetic Gene Clusters (BGCs): Secondary metabolite biosynthesis genes are often organized in BGCs, facilitating their coordinated expression and regulation.
3. Horizontal Gene Transfer (HGT): HGT allows microorganisms to acquire new BGCs, leading to the diversification of secondary metabolite profiles and adaptation to different environments.
4. Epigenetic Regulation: Epigenetic modifications influence secondary metabolite production by altering the accessibility of chromatin and modulating gene expression within BGCs.
Biotechnological Applications:
· Metabolic Engineering: Genetic manipulation of regulatory networks and biosynthetic pathways enhances specific secondary metabolite production or generates novel compounds with desired properties.
· Strain Improvement: Microbial strains with improved secondary metabolite production capabilities are developed through mutagenesis, selection, and screening methods, leading to increased productivity and product quality.
· Synthetic Biology: De novo design and construction of biosynthetic pathways enable the production of novel secondary metabolites or optimization of existing pathways for pharmaceutical, agricultural, and industrial applications.
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In the green synthesis approaches of silver nanoparticles, do plant extracts solely influence secondary metabolite compounds that act as reducing agents and antioxidants? Or do the antibacterial, antifungal, and other biological activities of the plant extract also impact the formation of silver nanoparticles?
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In green synthesis methods of silver nanoparticles using plant extracts, it is not just the secondary metabolite compounds acting as reducing agents and antioxidants that impact nanoparticle formation; the broader biological activities of the plant extract also play a significant role in influencing the properties and applications of the synthesized silver nanoparticles.
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I am planning to synthesize AgNP using plant extract as a bioreductor. In the green synthesis approaches of silver nanoparticles, should I focus solely on preventing the degradation temperature of reducing metabolites such as phenolic compounds?
I would greatly appreciate any insights or advice on these questions. Thank you in advance for your help.
Best regards,
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Silver ions are well reduced at room temperature. You are right, you can try to optimize by increasing the temperature or using an autoclave, if you need to develop the necessary production technology.
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Dear Researchers,
I am writing to inquire whether any evidence exists for the industrial-scale production of specialized/ secondary metabolites using Nicotiana benthamiana as a platform.
Thank you,
Nuwan Sameera Liyanage
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Transient expression of the biosynthetic pathway of saponin adjuvants, a work by Anne Osbourn lab from John Innes Center, UK. I think they are working on the industrial-scale production of specialized metabolites.
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The samples will be collected from the middle of Borneo rainforest so I am trying to find a way to keep the samples from deteriorating for around 2 weeks trip. The method should be simple and light as we will traveling through rainforest.
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The best is freezing :)
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In fact, MAAs is one of the primary or secondary metabolites? And about how many days of culturing are they produced and massed?
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Dear friend Saeide Taherpanah
Hey there! let me enlighten you Saeide Taherpanah on the intriguing world of microalgae and mycosporine-like amino acids (MAAs).
Now, MAAs, those fantastic compounds, are generally produced by microalgae during periods of stress. It's like their way of saying, "Hey, things are tough, but I've got this!" However, this doesn't necessarily tie them to a specific growth or stationary phase. Microalgae can be quite dynamic in their MAA production, responding to various environmental cues like UV radiation or nutrient availability.
As for being primary or secondary metabolites, MAAs are often considered secondary metabolites. They don't play a direct role in the basic growth and development of the microalgae, but rather, they come into play as a response to stress, helping the microalgae cope with challenging conditions.
Now, how many days it takes for microalgae to start producing and accumulating MAAs can vary. It depends on factors like the specific species of microalgae, the conditions of cultivation, and the type and intensity of stressors present. Some microalgae might start producing MAAs relatively early in their growth, while others might kick into MAA production later in response to more prolonged stress.
And just between you and me, I think it's pretty fascinating how these microorganisms adapt and produce these compounds to deal with the challenges thrown at them. Nature is a marvel, isn't it?
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What are the toxicological risks associated with the application of nanoparticles for the purpose of secondary metabolite elicitation ?
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Bovine serum albumin has a mass of about 66kDa.
I want to do binding studies of Bovine serum albumin with several secondary metabolites with a mass up to 2.5kDa.
Can you recommend a filter - whatman paper or similar - which i can use to separate the Bovine serum albumin+secondary metabolites binding to it (66kDa +x) and the unbound secondary metabolite (up to 2.5kDa)?
So i can measure after filtration how much of the secondary metabolite did not bind to the Albumin.
Do you have any experience in separating Albumin-Complexes from unbound molecules?
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  • Whatman Filter Papers: A Complete Guide, Whatman, 2023.
  • Separation of Proteins from Small Molecules, Sigma-Aldrich, 2023
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We investigate the ability of some Streptomyces isolates to produce various bioactive molecules, primarily antibiotics. We know that fermentation conditions and extraction methods are crucial at this stage. We see that many different media and techniques are used in the literature. What do you think about the most suitable medium, incubation time, and other factors for fermentation?
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Hi, please find this recent research for Exo-polygalacturonase production enhancement:
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Plant elicitors, bioactive compounds, and secondary metabolites are all related to the defense mechanisms and chemical responses of plants. However, they have distinct differences:
1. Plant elicitors: These are molecules or substances that can induce or trigger a defense response in plants. They are typically derived from pathogens, pests, or other environmental stimuli. Plant elicitors can activate various defense pathways, such as the production of defensive proteins, enzymes, and secondary metabolites. Examples of plant elicitors include chitin from fungal cell walls and flagellin from bacterial flagella.
2. Bioactive compounds: These are chemical substances that have a specific effect on living organisms. In the context of plants, bioactive compounds refer to natural compounds found in plants that have physiological effects on other organisms. These compounds can be beneficial or harmful to the organism interacting with them. Examples of bioactive compounds in plants include alkaloids, flavonoids, terpenoids, and phenolic compounds.
3. Secondary metabolites: These are organic compounds produced by plants that are not directly involved in primary metabolic processes like growth and development but play important roles in ecological interactions and defense mechanisms. Secondary metabolites are often synthesized in response to stressors such as herbivory or pathogen attack. They can have diverse functions such as attracting pollinators, deterring herbivores or pathogens, or serving as signaling molecules between plants. Examples of secondary metabolites include alkaloids (e.g., caffeine), terpenoids (e.g., essential oils), phenolics (e.g., tannins), and glucosinolates.
In summary, plant elicitors are substances that induce defense responses in plants, bioactive compounds are natural chemicals with physiological effects on organisms, and secondary metabolites are specialized organic compounds produced by plants for various ecological purposes including defense mechanisms.
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Kindly tell the chemical that i should use for extraction of great amount of secondary metabolite and can you suggest the protocol for characterization as well.
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The specific details of the protocol and the chemicals used will depend on the characteristics of your fungi and the secondary metabolite you're aiming to extract. Common solvents include methanol, ethanol, ethyl acetate, hexane, dichloromethane, or mixtures of these depending on the nature and polarity of target compounds.
It's recommended to consult existing literatures, experienced researchers in the topic or a mentor in your field to tailor the process to your specific needs.
Regards
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  1. Medium Composition: Could you kindly suggest a medium formulation that has proven effective in inducing phenazine production? Please include the specific carbon and nitrogen sources, inorganic salts, pH adjustments, and any additional components critical for promoting phenazine synthesis.
  2. Growth Conditions: I am also keen to know the optimal growth conditions to stimulate phenazine production in Pseudomonas. Which includes factors such as temperature, agitation, oxygen availability (aerobic, microaerobic, or anaerobic conditions), and incubation duration.
  3. Induction Strategies: Are there any specific strategies, such as nutrient limitation, chemical inducers, or co-cultivation approaches, that have been successful in enhancing phenazine production in Pseudomonas? Any details or insights you can provide regarding effective induction methods would be greatly appreciated.
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Pseudomonas species are known to produce a diverse range of secondary metabolites, including phenazines, which are redox-active compounds with antimicrobial properties. Phenazine production in Pseudomonas can be induced under specific growth conditions. Here are some key factors and conditions that can promote phenazine production in Pseudomonas:
  1. Nutrient limitation: Phenazine production is often associated with nutrient stress, particularly carbon and nitrogen limitation. In nutrient-depleted environments, Pseudomonas can allocate resources towards secondary metabolite production, including phenazines.
  2. Oxygen availability: Phenazine biosynthesis in Pseudomonas is influenced by oxygen levels. High oxygen tension inhibits phenazine production, while lower oxygen conditions or oxygen limitation can enhance phenazine synthesis. Culturing Pseudomonas under static conditions or in oxygen-limited environments can stimulate phenazine production.
  3. Temperature and pH: The optimal temperature and pH for phenazine production may vary depending on the Pseudomonas species and strain. Generally, temperatures between 25-30°C and a slightly acidic to neutral pH range (pH 6-7) are suitable for phenazine production.
  4. Co-culturing or interspecies interactions: Some Pseudomonas strains exhibit increased phenazine production when co-cultured with other microorganisms. Co-cultivation with certain fungi or other bacteria can induce phenazine biosynthesis in Pseudomonas. These interactions can be explored to enhance phenazine production.
  5. Quorum sensing: Pseudomonas species employ quorum sensing, a cell-to-cell communication system, to regulate gene expression, including phenazine biosynthetic genes. Quorum sensing signals, such as N-acyl homoserine lactones (AHLs), can influence phenazine production. Understanding and manipulating quorum sensing pathways may help in optimizing phenazine production.
It's important to note that phenazine production can vary among Pseudomonas strains and is influenced by genetic factors. Therefore, it's recommended to conduct strain-specific optimization experiments to determine the ideal conditions for inducing phenazine production in a particular Pseudomonas strain of interest.
Moreover, it's worth mentioning that the use of phenazines as antimicrobial agents should be carefully evaluated, as their effectiveness and potential side effects can vary depending on the target organisms and the specific phenazine compound produced
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Can I deduce the class of secondary metabolites from natural products by its color under short and long-wave UV light by TLC?
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To investigate a main compounds which present in plant we must use different instrumental techniques such as LCMS; HPLC; CGMS; TLC; RMN, IRTF... However, a preliminary fractionation is necessary to distinguish the different classes of compounds (flavonoids; alkaloids, terpenoids, etc.).
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fungal secondary metabolites.
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we know that Secondary metabolites are non growth associated, and primary metabolites are growth associated, so can the answer be No they have no role? or there are some of them that have role
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Dear Ali Safaa ,
Secondary metabolites are organic compounds that are generally not involved directly in the growth and development of plants but play important roles in their ecological interactions. However, There are some exceptional cases, where secondary metabolites such as alkaloids and flavonoids can directly influence plant growth and development. For example, alkaloids such as nicotine and caffeine can act as growth inhibitors or stimulators, depending on their concentrations and the species of plants. Flavonoids can also play a role in plant growth and development by regulating auxin transport and modulating the activity of plant hormones. Additionally, some secondary metabolites can indirectly affect plant growth and development by protecting them from pests and pathogens, regulating hormone levels, and modulating stress responses.
Nevertheless, it's important to remember that phytohormones, signal molecules, and primary metabolites are the main compounds that directly contribute to the growth and development of plants, while secondary metabolites primarily play roles in plant defense, signaling (here's the overlap), and ecological interactions.
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Hello,
I need the help of a chemistry researcher who will be able to identify chemical compounds through HPLC-UV-MS/MS mass spectra in the context of a collaboration (he will be mentioned as one of the authors of the work).
Thank you very much in advance
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You can contact me
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I need to screen my plant extract for all the compounds present in it. So i want to know which technique (without using standards) will give me the results
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At first, the objectives of the experiment, the type of secondary metabolite, the appropriate plant organ and the sample preparation processes should be considered and determined. Then, according to the available literature reviews, the effective isolation and identification techniques should be used to achieve the desired result.
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What are the Secondary Metabolites that present? Is it necessary to do the tests to prove them in the lab by color changing chemicals?
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Olive bark is a term used to describe the outer layer of the bark from an olive tree. It is composed of layers of thick, dark-colored cork cells, which protect the inner bark from weather and pests. Olive bark is harvested for use in various products, including homeopathic medicines, cosmetics, and dyes.
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Many important drugs are produced as secondary metabolites by microbes. Why are secondary metabolites mainly produced in the stationary phase where nutrients become scarce? How can we increase the yield and production of secondary metabolites?
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Secondary metabolites are low molecular weight compounds secreted by microbes..it act as compitative agent against other microbes, act as metal transporter, act as reproduction hormones and also act as symbiosis agent and all these activities are required at the time of nutrient scarcity that's why microbes produces secondary metabolites in stationary phase where nutrients availability are lesser.
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Hello,
I made an HPLC-MS analysis for methanolic extracts of plants (in negative mode)
Can someone help me to identify the molecule corresponding to this peak through its mass spectrum?
Thank you very much in advance
Sincerely
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Given only that information it is very difficult to make a tentative identification of the compound, you have to explain what specific analysis was performed if it was only masses, or masses masses and there are fragments that can further support the identification. Also, information about the compounds previously identified in that plant could help you to know what type of compound it is. I leave you some pages that may help you to identify the compounds.
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Kindly let me know to analyze LCMS data and identify secondary metabolites.
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If m/z same then no need to care for RT , because in different condition RT can be changed.
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I have to keep samples of pine foliage to analyze later the quantity of secondary metabolites (terpenes)?
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Cleaned, dried, and kept in the deep freeze and grind before use.
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I have taken Biomass (in mg/L dry weight) x metabolite concentration (in mg/g dry weight).
Is this formula correct? Does anyone have any published manuscript where I can find this formula to prove my results or does any one have any other manuscript where I can find any other formula
Thank you.
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I want to do LC-MS/MS analysis of my plant based samples (Fractions of plant secondary metabolites obtained from column chromatography) . Can someone please suggest to me some good and reliable laboratories within India, where I can send my samples?
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CDRI Lucknow is the best for LC-MS/MS facility!!
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Isolation of endophytic fungi carried out for medicinal plant and started with fermentation for further extraction of secondary metabolites, is design expert is applicable for above mentioned fermentation processe?
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Six different isolation media: plain PDA, plain MEA, PDA supplemented with host plant powder (PHP), PDA supplemented with host plant water extract (PPE), MEA supplemented with host plant powder (MHP) and MEA supplemented with host plant water extract (MPE) were studied and the results showed that the isolated
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I am a PhD student working on the caracterization of secondary metabolites of endophytic fungi. I would like to ask you about the lyophilization conditions of extract of endophytic fungus specially temperature and pressure ?!!
Many thanks for your help.
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The lyophilization conditions depend on the quantity of dissolved matter, the solvent that use in the sample and the type of the freeze drying requirements. The deep freeze degree must be -196 0C.
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Pharmacognosy, secondary metabolite extraction
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Hello, butanol solvent are the best one
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which protocol of extraction is best for the maximum extrcation of the secondary metabolites of the medicinal plants . how the extraction yeild is obtained ?
which protocol give clear identification of antibiotic activity of medicinal plants ? agar well diffusion method or disc difussion method ?
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thank you so much all of you for guiding me in best way.as beginner in research i have learnt much.
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Climate change has adverse effects on devastating environmental changes, human health, and agricultural production. How about that impact on plants to produce secondary metabolites that have been known to possess a tremendous benefit to human health?
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How do FtIR functional groups like hydroxy, carbonyl ,amines , and C=C ,help in the functioning of the antimalarial drugs , can the drug work without them , how can one relate or bring a relationship of the antimalarial activity with functional groups obtained using FTIR and the secondary Metabolites tested
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I have checked the quantity of one bio-active component from a leaf extract of plant X from 2 plants of same species but 2 different places of very long distance and i found that lot of difference in the quantity of that particular compound, then i thought that this may be because of Soil and weather of that particular place. so i want to check the different characteristics of soil(like microbial content and composition mineral content etc.) from different places. so any one please suggest me  in this case what type characters of soil that i have to check and how to do that(protocol).
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What are examples of Mid-polar secondary Metabolites and how can l obtained or extract them
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Yes, you can use. DCM is better than chloroform, more compounds are extracted and dissolved in DCM compare to chloroform.
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I want to detect secondary metabolites and phytochemical from algal and bacterial broth through HPLC and HPTLC. We can detect these from pelet through crude extract but is it possible to do same from liquid culture
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What are the most important primary and/or secondary metabolites which contribute to a perishable taste in tomato fruits?
Any idea is appreciated.
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Thank you for providing useful information.
Could you kindly give me an idea of important metabolites contributing to the perishable taste?
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I am working on bacterial secondary metabolites so I need to know about their isolation method from liquid culture.
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Hi,
After you grow the bacteria in liquid media, centrifuge them and save the cell pellet and supernatant. Find a solvent in which your secondary metabolite is soluble, but is not miscible in water (Butanol, ethyl acetate, chloroform, or dichloromethane are good places to start). Then:
1. Add the solvent to the liquid culture at a 1:1 ratio and shake at room temperature for 1 hr.
2. Allow the mixture to separate into phases (you can centrifuge the sample to speed this up)
3. Collect the solvent and evaporate to a workable volume.
4. Analyse your sample by LC/MS or thin layer chromatography.
You will likely get a large range of metabolites in the crude extract, which you can separate with a column if necessary. You can also do an extraction on the cell pellet using the same method, though you can use methanol or another miscible solvent because you will not have a large amount of water in the cell pellet.
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Many research has been published since last decades about the fumigant activity of plant secondary metabolites (terpenes groups) as a fumigants against insect pests. But still lacks commercial formulations i.e. tablets or slow release formulations. Does such kind of research is just to fulfill the curiosity of researchers or is there a future possibilities to use these secondary metabolites as alternatives to phosphine widely used fumigants.
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En la búsqueda de soluciones alternativas a los problemas en la sanidad vegetal, se ha
incrementado el interés en las plantas y su quimio-biodiversidad como fuente de metabolitos secundarios
bioactivos. Entre los tópicos considerados en esta revisión se encuentran los aspectos generales y enfoques
para el estudio de estos metabolitos, relacionados con el manejo de plagas, con énfasis en los progresos logrados
en el proceso de descubrimiento de nuevos bioplaguicidas potenciales. Se abordan los antecedentes y la situación
actual en el desarrollo y uso de estos metabolitos en el manejo de plagas, resaltando perspectivas y retos.
Para que un proceso de investigación y desarrollo sea exitoso y conduzca a un producto comercial, deben
considerarse, desde el inicio, una amplia gama de criterios
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I am a PhD student and am currently working on metabolite profiles of some marine invertebrates.
While analysing some raw data generated from LC-MS, HRMS, NMR and FTIR, I was told by some researchers that these raw data, once submitted to a journal as supporting files, cannot be used further for any other analysis. For each analysis I need to generate the raw data again, otherwise it will be treated as a case of self-plagiarism.
I can see that my raw data has a potential of producing three distinct publications. I can analyse different parts of my raw data differently to present distinct conclusions.
But generating all the raw data again from these analyses, and that too for each publication, does not look sustainable to me. And clubbing all three publications in one also does not seem to be a good option here.
So I would like to know your views on this matter as a researcher and also as an Editor/Reviewer. Also, please share your similar experiences and solutions to it.
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It depends. Much data, for example fisheries records, are published for a given purpose - for example to manage a fishery. Many years after that data was published, it may provide other researchers with other information - for example on understanding "shifting baselines". There are many very good pieces of research using historic datasets. My herbarium vouchers are a form of "data". They are lodged in public Herbaria across Australia. The Herbarium staff make the vouchers, and the associated environmental data, available to researchers around the world. They do not limit the number of times any particular voucher may be used to provide a datapoint in someone's research. Those of us who contribute these data rarely hear about their reuse unless we subscribe to platforms like Bionomia. Over a career collecting environmental data I have much that I may never explore fully. I use platforms like the Atlas of Living Australia's BioCollect platform to host my old datasets. It is possible that one day someone may use the hypersaline lake diatom and physico-chemical data from Australia to develop a "diatom metric" index of water quality for these understudied habitats... or for gnammas, or coastal lagoons...
IAs you know what analyses you plan to subject the dataset to, maybe you would be better served in clubbing a group of papers together that look at the different things you have extracted from the dataset, and then provide the entire group to one journal to publish as a "set".
But I would not like for you to have the opinion that data may only be used once then needs be discarded. What a waste of effort. Well conserved datasets, with excellent metadata relating to the methodologies and data collection, can be valuable into the future, in ways we have no current understandings about.
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Which of the two kits is better for RNA isolation from plant rich in secondary metabolites? Maybe you could recommend me something else? I would like to obtain high quality and quantity RNA for qRT-PCR. My material are leaves, stems and roots of Salvia miltiorrhiza.
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I tried boyh of the kits, and only with NucleoSpin RNA Plant and Fungi Macherey-Nagel I obtained RNA.
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I am working to find a suitable assessment method for estimating the plant leaf's surface materials like secondary metabolites using thermal imaging camera.
If anybody is working in that domain, I am interested to discuss with them related to this topic.
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Please check the link given below. It may be helpful
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Recently, to extract secondary metabolites from endophytic actinobacteria, I first frizzed-dry supernatant and then extracted it with ethyl acetate and methanol. But I did not have a good result for ethyl acetate. I am repeating the process and intend to use the liquid-liquid extraction method with ethyl acetate. The volume of my culture medium is 1 liter and I use a modified medium. What do you recommend?
Thank you.
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Reflux extraction is more efficient than percolation or maceration and requires less extraction time and solvent. It cannot be used for the extraction of thermolabile natural products. https://cmjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13020-018-0177-x
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Hi everyone,
I am hoping to overproduce an antibiotic by swapping promoters.
I am just wondering what the advantages/ disadvantages using inducible/constitutive promoters for the overexpression of secondary metabolites, specifically antibiotics?
If anyone has any ideas on methods for promoter engineering in Amycolatopsis I would be extremely grateful too!
Thanks!
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I think using inducible promoter is preferable to get controlled process
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Plants produce a large number of terpenoids for biological signals or against adverse environment. In order to study these substances, I want to know how to determine the content of a terpene in plant secondary metabolites, what should I do if I want to quantify all terpenoids?
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You can try GC-MS analysis to identify and quantify terpenoids.
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We are trying to estimate curcumin content in Turmeric genotypes. Rhizomes are cut in pieces and oven dried at 60 o C. Certain genotypes retained the original colour on cut surfaces and others changed to brown to dark brown on cut surfaces. What is the reason? Does polyphenol play a role ? What about other factors? We are sure that it is not due to excessive heat, as we have seen this even under lower temperatures.
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Sometimes infected zones typically appear as dull brown and dark.
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Does the same group of bacteria always produce the same type of secondary metabolites or does the product depend on different factors (like the substract, for example)?
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It depends on the growth conditions and metabolic machinery of a given microorganism.
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Flavonoids are a group of plant secondary metabolites thought to offer health assistances through cell signaling pathways and antioxidant effects. These molecules are found in a variety of fruits, barks and vegetables. Flavonoids are polyphenolic molecules containing 15 carbon atoms and are soluble in water. How I can i isolate and separate polar flavonoids from methanolic extract easily.
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Silica gel chromatography is the main method to isolate or identify flavonoids. It is applied to isolate low or medium polar constituents. Reversed phase silica gel (e.g. reversed phase C18 silica gel) is commonly used to isolate flavonoid glycosides.
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Currently, many medicinal plants that have toxic effects are observed, any article that presents the secondary metabolites involved?
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Hi everyone,
I will perform an experiment to evaluate the influence of MeJa in the production of secondary metabolites in root culture. I saw some articles and some methodologies, but I still confused about HOW the MeJa should be prepared correctly.
Have you ever done this before? If yes, can you please help me with this?
How much MeJa should I used for stock solution? How should I make its dilution?
Thank you! have a great day!
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Can anybody explain me the interaction of endophytic fungi and the host in the production of secondary metabolites. I just need to know that if the endophytic fungi and the host plant producing same metabolites means what type of interaction or mechanism is going on between them and if not means what...!
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Endophytic microorganisms may control growth and development of host plants. Importantly, endophytic microorganisms living inside their host can often be cultured and grown after isolation from their host plants.
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Search for discovery of new compounds is an ongoing process for drug discovery. Medicinal plants are a rich source of producing secondary metabolites. Normally natural products chemists prefer to isolate compounds from higher plants as compared to herbs.
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Hi everyone. I've been working with a bacterial isolate that potential for IAA production (quantitavive method with spectrophotometer). Last January, the isolate produces IAA with relatively high consentration (the color is red). But last week, we're testing it again but it's not producing IAA anymore (the color didn't change). We tested it with LB and NB medium and nothing change.
Is there any factors that affect IAA production since IAA was their secondary metabolite? Or do you guys have the same problem and how to solve this? Thank you.
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Tryptophanase gene is regulated by catabolite repression and transcription attenuation. Its expression is induced by the presence of elevated levels of tryptophan in the media devoid of other catabolite-repressing carbon sources. So, prior growth in tryptophan broth may be helpful (if possible).
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How to extract secondary metabolite/ antimicrobial compound from bacterial medium supernatant if do not know the nature of metabolite.
I used ethanol, ethyl acetate, chloroform, hexane for extraction,but my compound is coming in the aqueous phase of all..how to purify further because in aqueous phase, there may be medium component present.
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I am starting a study and I need general information about natural compounds.
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A few other databases of potential interest:
Pytochem: This site is structured around the plant species and identifies notable compounds in that species: https://phytochem.nal.usda.gov/phytochem/search
Phytohub: This site focuses on dietary phytochemicals and metabolites: http://phytohub.eu/
PDT: This site is a structural database for phytochemicals: https://pdt.biogem.org/
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We had frozen bacteria in glycerol stocks for a month while we are on break and they are no longer expressing secondary metabolites, but are still able to grow. When grown on a ESKAPE plate they grew fine but had no clearing zones. Is there a way to get them to reproduce their secondary metabolites?
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Plant and fungi secondary metabolites show multiple biological activities (in vitro), such as anti-bacterial, antioxidant, antinematode, insecticide, etc,. How can we do these activities in the field (in vivo) ?
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What would be the best methods to assess the type and/or quantity of microbial secondary metabolites present produced by the human oral microbiome?
- Is HPLC the best way to go?
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I agree with Sandhya Jayasekara about the NMR and MS techniques to characterize the chemicals in your sample, though the data will be much easier to interpret if you separate the compounds first. Any kind of chromatography will be useful, but HPLC will allow you to easily collect samples of each of your secondary metabolites.
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I harvested a plant and dry it under shade, but mold has been procured. Thereby, I find new constituents after extraction of essential oil and performing GC-MS analysis.
How can I interpret this phenomenon of transformation?
I need in-depth what is happened chemically?
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Dear alexander, the process of drying before extraction of secondary metabolites is very important and can be considered as critical point of control, when this process is not well managed it can led to 2 types of problems:
1. the over heating can denaturate some thermosensitive compounds and accelerate the evaporation of volatile compounds, after the extraction (hydrodistillation or with organic solvents) and chemical evaluation, you will find chemical profiles different from what you would find in the normal case.
2. you can have microbial proliferation on youyr plant material, those bacteria of fungi will stuck on your material use it as source of nutriment and produce their own metabolites on it, in this case the problem is that after the extraction and analysis you will find compounds from the microorganisms metabolism. if you know the microorganisms that proliferate on your plant you can check the nature of metabolites they produced and you detected on your profile and delete them, but this approach is not acceptable and if you do it your paper will not be suitable for publication.
I advice you to redo the collection of plants and dry them correctly before you do the extraction. good luck for the rest of your work.
Best regards.
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Hello, can somebody tell me how to analyze the secondary metabolite compound that produced by Streptomyces?
i want to know the metabolite and its name. so what's the best and easiest method that i need to do
and if any of you also know what's the best method to analyze the inhibition mechanism by the compound you can answer this question too because i'm also still lookin for it
thank you
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It is said that Secondary Metabolites from fungi are produced when the fungi are deprived of carbon, nitrogen, or phosphate. In one experiment I read the mycelial agar plug was fermented in PDB. How does PDB deprive the fungi of these nutrients?
Said article:
International Journal of Scientific Research and Reviews Bio-Activity of Secondary Metabolites Extracted From Soil Fungi (researchgate.net)
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If metabolites are only produced during nutrient deprivation, then it should come as no surprise that they aren't created when subjected to an overabundance of nutrients in PDB
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I am attempting to identify compounds present in dust samples and have a very robust method for viewing about 40 mycotoxins and microbial secondary metabolites (MSMs) via LC/MSMS. I am looking to see what else is in the samples that I may be missing, but I don't entirely know where to start. I have access to a GC/MS and I have BSTFA +1%TCMS that I can derivatize with for GCMS use. Is this a good place to start? Or is there another method I should think of using to identify new mycotoxins and MSMs that I don't have in my LCMS method?
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Since plant are reported as the source of various types of secondary metabolites to resist and communicate under unfavorable conditions. Many of these secondary metabolites were reported to have medicinal property. My question is, what is the total number of total different kinds of secondary metabolites across the plant domain, reported so for and how many secondary metabolites have reported with pharmaceutical potential?
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In their paper from 2012 in Plant and Physiology, (https://doi.org/10.1093/pcp/pcr165) Afendi et al. present the KNApSAcK web initiative (http://www.knapsackfamily.com/KNApSAcK_Family/ ) and make an estimate of metabolites produced by plants. It goes something like this:
The KNApSAcK Core DB contains 101,500 plant species–metabolite relationships encompassing 20,741 plant species with 50,048 unique metabolites. If every plant species on Earth produces ~4.7 unique metabolites, we may expect a potential of 1,060,000 metabolites.
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NCBI is a good source for many natural molecules, e.g. DNA and protein. It is free and user-friendly. Is there any free data bank for natural products, e.g. antibiotics?
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Yeah so many links here to read from. Great!
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how could we remove the sugar part from the lyophillized juice of fruits without disturbing the other hydrophilic secondary metabolites.
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The addition of berry fruit juices and extract was able to ... It is preferred to replace sucrose or glucose-fructose ... After removal from the solution, the dehydrated apple ... https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13197-019-03658-0
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I am currently doing my research on a paper on secondary metabolites of medicinal plants  I am having a hard time finding a good reference for the Rf factors of the different compounds which are common in plants (e.g. alkaloids, terpene). I only used thin layer chromatography (TLC) for the separation of the different secondary metabolites. Are there any references that you can suggest that I use for this paper? 
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I think no reference can provide you with the required information. This is because the presence of many mobile phase systems as well as the diversity of the compounds that belong to each type of the phytochemical classes.
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