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I was researching about CuMOF and was confused by the SEM EDX test results. Is it true that coating with gold in the SEM test makes the EDX results unable to show element C (atomic weight C in my research is 0%). And there are other elements such as Al, Si, S, K, Cr, and Fe that can be read, why is it like this?
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EDX analyses the characteristic X-rays coming from the sample surface. In samples coated with gold, gold peaks may appear in the spectrum, since the characteristic X-rays of the gold itself will also be detected. This can complicate the spectral analysis of the sample material and lead to incorrect results. If the coating is too thick, it can weaken the signals from the sample material underneath and the signals from the coating alone may dominate. This prevents the sample from being analysed correctly. Alternatively, other coating materials such as carbon can be used to overcome the problem of insulating properties, since carbon has a lesser effect on the EDX spectrum than gold.
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I have done sem eds analysis for Hydroxyapatite and zeolite NaP composites, but no Na and Ca elements were detected at a 500× magnification, and there should be no Ti elements, and at a 2000× magnification there is no P, Si, Na, and Ca, should I use a 10,000× magnification, because in the reference I used the sem eds magnification for my sample was 10,000× and 20,000×?
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What does this image show?
A dark powder on a bright uneven surface?
Which of the spectra were taken on this surface?
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Why it is important to have (gold) coating on your biological (plant) samples before EDX analysis? If the sample is thin, well attached onto carbon tape and I do not see any charging on sample, may I perform EDX measurement without coating? How coating infulence mesurements and how it influence final report (= weight percentage of individual element in sample)? I mostly use gold for coating
Thank you
Jan
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May be you'll find this useful:
Preparation of biological specimens for EDS with an SEM
​https://www.oxinst.com/blogs/preparation-of-biological-specimens-for-eds-with-an-sem
Tips and Tricks for Biological EDS
Advanced techniques in SEM and EDS for biological samples​https://www.selectscience.net/expert-insight/advanced-techniques-in-sem-and-eds-for-biological-samples/?artID=56957
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Can XRD-Rietveld analysis provide components / phases present in the amorphous phase the same way it does for crystalline material? Are there other methods available?
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the evaluation of XRD pattern of amorphous material is is a challenge because it mainly consist of a large broad hump which some times is more or less structured by one or two shoulders. From that perspective you already see, that there is much less information available compared to a 'crystalline' XRD pattern.
In order to compensate the lack of information a bit one uses the small angle scattering technique, the experimental set up of which is in principle similar to an XRD one. The difference is the 'theta' or '2theta' range combined with the wavelength in use. Here the physical parameter known as the magnitude of the momentum transfer vector show up.
Details about the evaluation of such 'amorphous' pattern you will find for example in:
Tutorial on pairdistribution function:
I admit, that it a hard job to dive deeper into this subject...
Good luck and
best regards
G.M.
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The file contains CEM images of a 3D dental resin (it is amorphous). Is it possible to determine by structure (there are impurities) and elements (Na, Cl, Al - impurities) what kind of polymer or at least to which group it belongs and its applicability? What works have such images? What works describe the relationship between structure and elemental composition and applicability of such materials? What works describe other properties of such materials? Thank you!
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you could type "What material is used in dental 3D printing?" in google or google scholar for information to a wide array of materials used depending the desired result. for example teeth use different material than tissue regeneration.
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Surface analysis using SEM-EDS, FTIR, AND XRD.
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if possible send your sample to India
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The file contains CEM images of a 3D resin for dentistry (amorphous). Can you determine by structure (there are impurities) and elements (Na, Cl, Al - impurities) what kind of polymer and its applicability? What works have such images? What works describe the relationship between structure and elemental composition and the applicability of such materials? Thank you!
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As per the images, that can be almost any hard resin. Impurities are mainly mechanical inclusions (except for NaCl), which are also typical for this material.
The information I see on these images: brittle chips with no soft whiskers (that means the material is fully polymerized and hard under given conditions), and some inner structure (globules of 300-400nm).
I would recommend getting ATR-IR or Raman spectra for the material and checking the database for a match. PXRD may also help, but that's more expensive, longer and not really suites the task.
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What is the incident radiation used in XPS and why? How does the detector used in the XPS differ from those during SEM, EDX or XRD data collection?
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In XРS ( X-ray photoelectron spectroscopy) measures the binding energy of electrons with a nucleus when irradiated with monochromatic radiation, which appear as a result of the photoelectric effect.
Scanning electron microscope (SEM). The incident electrons interact with the atoms in the sample, creating various signals that contain information about the surface topography and composition of the sample. The electron beam is scanned as a bitmap and the position of the beam is combined with the intensity of the detected signal to produce an image.
Energy dispersive X-ray spectroscopy(EDX). The electron beam is focused on the sample and transfers electrons from one shell to another. This releases X-rays. The amount and energy of the x-rays emitted by the sample can be measured using an energy dispersive spectrometer. Since the energies of X-rays characterize the difference in energy between the two shells and the atomic structure of the emitting element, EDS makes it possible to measure the elemental composition of the sample.
XRD identification of materials based on their diffraction pattern. The sample is irradiated with X-rays and the intensity of the rays leaving the sample is measured depending on the angles of the crystal lattice.
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 I deposited an alloy for 30 minutes using the AJA Sputtering system. The alloy consists of Tantalum Carbide (TaC) doped with Cu. The Tantalum Carbide (TaC) was prepared by the RF gun and Copper by the DC gun on the silicon wafer. After sputtering, I checked the elemental composition with SEM-EDX, which shows that the composite has a large amount of oxygen.
What could be the source of oxygen?
Is there a way to remove or reduce the oxygen from the composition?
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Well, oxygen enters sputtered films usually via the chamber residual gases.
  • What is your base pressure in your chamber?
  • Does your chamber have a baking system?
  • Can you measure the residual gas levels by a residual gas analyzer and is it applicable for a helium leak search?
  • Does your chamber have an airlock system or do you put in substrates directly?
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One researcher did ballistic performance of kevlar fiber impregnated with nanosilica/ polyethylene glycol shear thickening fluid. And he loaded 10, 15, 20Wt% of Nanosilica with polyethylene glycol.
After fabrication, how we can confirm the equal distribution of nanosilica over the kevlar. Whether nanosilica is spread all over the kevlar equally or not?
How I can confirm? Any SEM, TEM test required ?
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You can use SEM/EDS to check for homogeneity of Si distribution. If you expect non homogeneity on 1-100 micron scale, you may want to use line scans of Si radiation (maps are not as sencitive). If scale is in range of millimeters or cantimeters, you may want to perform spot analisis for a lot of spots or use not a micro analytical technique, like XRD.
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Hi everybody, Im working with as welded clad nickel alloy. After welding the specimens are tested with a hot deformation, some of them present cracking.
In a previous analysis of deformation, I did not find liquation cracks, but my analysis was pretty simple, just only in the surface of cladding, not in the bulk material.
I was wondering how can I after deformation identify if these cracks corresponding of liquation cracks or ductility dips cracks?
I consulted the book wrote by Lippold, Welding Metallurgy and Weldability of Nickel-Base Alloys, He says one form to identify liquation craks is seeing the specimens in a SEM tryng to find any trail of liquid. Regarding ductily dips cracks you must see something similar to ductile fracture.
I made these observation with not results. I couldnt see anything, in part because the cracks are not longer.
So, anybody can reccomended me how can iddentify these cracks?
Thank you for your help.
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I recommend listing all indications of Hot cracking so you can separate them easily.
According to J.C. Lippold's welding metallurgy book: DDC are formed in materials with FCC crystal structure along MGBs.
I want to emphasize on MGBs (Migrated grain boundaries). DDC is always formed along MGBs.
It is one of the ways to identify.
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Hi all,
I have a sample of ZSM-5, and i don't know the ratio of Si/Al. I want to calculate the ratio with the result of EDX/SEM. could you help me?
Bests,
Samira
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With EDX you can collect the spectrum of your sample and obtain a table with the amount of the elements expressed in weight percent and atomic percent. So it is simple to calculate the ratio beteween some of them
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I have 3 samples coating with CB and MWCNT using ecoflex. Here are conditions of the samples after mapping using SEM/EDX.
1. sample 1: no coating
Findings after mapping: Carbon, Silicon and Oxygen
2. sample 2: treat with toluene
Findings: Carbon, Silicon, Oxygen and Sulphur
3. sample 3: treat with acetone
Findings: Carbon, Silicon, Oxygen and Ferum
I believed the original sample should have carbon, silicon and oxygen. But I have found another two elements, which were sulphur and ferum which I didn't used the during experimental work. I suspect the elements were debris since they were only 0.1~0.5 of the total elements.
Can anyone explain such conditions?
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Tq for your sharing
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I wanted to show moisture is there in concrete at the micro level. I already used SEM-EDX analysis to find the oxygen amount. But it seems like I can not argue moisture presence with the Oxygen percentage. It would be great if someone suggest any other ways of the experiment to show this.
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I would usually start with a thermal camera for mapping purposes..Then mount the thermohygrograph data logger on the bluish areas.
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Hello everyone, i've already did a characterization of SEM-EDX on iron electrodes before and after electrolysis. From this picture, I can only explain that this electrode:
- Before treatment: the iron surface is smooth and regular, the iron element is more dominant
- After treatment: the surface of the iron has cracks, holes and irregularities caused by the electrolysis process, there is also an oxide layer on the surface of the iron which means the surface of the iron has been oxidized, the element of oxygen is more dominant
Any additional suggestions to describe this SEM-EDX result?
Also, I have some questions about SEM-EDX :
1. Why is the oxygen level higher after the treatment?
2. How does Fe react with oxygen in water during electrolysis?
3. How to write down the chemical reaction that occurs between Fe and oxygen in water to form Fe-oxide?
4. Talking about the morphology of SEM on the image after treatment, how can a needle-like layer be formed?
5. If correlated with the pourbaix diagram, how to explain the formation process of iron oxidation, when there is water, the presence of dissolved oxygen in the water?
Thank you in advance
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I assume that the EDS analysis was done over the area of the SEM images shown and the concentrations were obtained by pressing the “QUANT” button of the software.
The spatial resolution of EDS (laterally and in depth) is given by the beam-sample interaction (i.e. beam energy, atomic number, density) and the physics of X-ray emission.
A frequently used estimate is the Kanaya-Okayama range (K Kanaya and S Okayama, J. Phys. D: Appl. Phys. 5(1972) 43-58, DOI: 10.1088/0022-3727/5/1/308).
For pure Fe and 15 keV electrons the electron excitation range is ca. 1 µm, the size of the volume where the X-rays are from is ca. 0.7 µm for Fe K radiation.
EDS quantification assumes that the sample is sample is homogeneous, flat, and thick (compared to the excitation range).
Advanced Spectrum Analysis and Quantification Precision
This presentation by Dr. Jens Rafaelsen was recorded on the EDAX booth at M&M 2018
At 35:45 “If your sample doesn't meet those requirements: don't click the QUANT button: You'll get numbers, they'll be garbage!”
The “Fe-before” sample is likely Fe with a native iron oxide.
Is the sample flat? Is the sample homogeneous (laterally and in depth)? Is the oxide thick?
If the iron oxide is thin (< 0.7 µm), the volume you analyse is composed of iron oxide(s) + iron metal. The prerequisites of the quantification model are not fulfilled.
The “Fe-after” sample is likely Fe with thick iron oxide(s).
Is the sample flat? Is the sample homogeneous (laterally and in depth)?
The prerequisites of the quantification model are not fulfilled.
Is the oxide thick?
If the iron oxide is thick (> 1 µm), the volume you analyse might be composed of the iron oxide(s) formed, but the prerequisites of the quantification model are not fulfilled.
As mentioned by Vladimir Dusevich the EDS spectra should be evaluated carefully. There are small peaks around 2 keV. For “Fe-before” at < 2 keV, for “Fe-after” at ca. 2.3 keV. What’s this?
> Also, I have some questions about SEM-EDX:
Your questions 1-5 are not directly related to EDX.
The chemistry of oxidation of iron (and steels) in aqueous solutions has been studied for decades because of the importance for corrosion and power generation and the results are now textbook knowledge.
I guess for electrolysis a lot of actual work can be found.
For thicker oxides scales composed of different oxides may form. Here, preparation and analysis of cross sections may give more insight.
Preparation methods and analysis will depend on the thickness and stability of the scales (fracturing, preparation of cross section by metallographic methods, FIB cuts; EDS in SEM or TEM?)
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Hi! I am trying to prepare hydroxyapatite scaffold samples for SEM imaging of cell growth. I have the Karnovsky's fixative kit but the procedure provided in the tech sheet (attached) is not sufficient for my applications. First, does anyone have a standard protocol for this SEM fixation using Karnovsky's fixative kit? Second, do I need to do the post-fix using OsO4 or is there an alternative method to the post-fix mentioned in the tech sheet? Can I do the fixation procedure without it, followed by the graded ethanol dehydration or will it have a negative impact on my sample preparation?
I would really appreciate any help answering this question. Thanks!
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If you have a cells monolayer, 30 min is a good time. If you have something like a tissue developing, with a lot of collagen, then you need 1 hr. HA is soluble in water (very slow, but still...). So if you culture started generate small centers of mineralization, you do not want to keep it too long (days, weeks) in water solutions. From the other side prolonged storage in desiccator can lead to fungus growth. Some desiccators are badly infested with fungus and need through cleaning and disinfection. From my opinion the best way to store specimens is when their preparation is complete, i.e. they are dehydrated and coated with conductive coating.
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Can we test the chemical properties (SEM-EDX)of recycled aggregates without resorting to concrete experiments?
If there is, how is it done?؟
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SEM based EDX is very simple to do and does not require a hard core methodology for simple analyses (ie., what is present). Accurate “quantification” requires a more involved methodology.
There are other fast turn-around methods for rapid analyses Including ICP and XRF. ICP is likely the most accurate method of all the elemental analyses, EDX is most sensitive to the lighter elements, while XRF is most sensitive to the heavier elements and can be done with independent instrumentation, or with SEM associated instrumentation. All can be used to answer the simple question of what is present, but all can also be used for the more involved question of methods of quantification.
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Dear researchers:
Through my read some of the papers, I find that the welding efficiency may reach 100%, so the separation of the metal occurs away from the welding area (during the tensile test).
From your point of view: How do you evaluate the microstructure of welding zone?
With Regards
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Dear Alireza Karimi Yes I agree with you that XRD with micron size X-ray beam called as micro XRD can be done on a different positions with 2D X-ray can give the actual micron size phase formation details.
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What is the reason for carrying out the working electrode (Brass in my case) after 24 hours of immersion time before the SEM/EDX analysis?
Looking for articles to support mine.
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your question is not clear
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I want to know which is the best part to look at to compare if coral calcification is affected by in situ low pH environment. I've been reading papers but I can't pinpoint which part they are looking at under SEM. My fragments are from the genus Porites, Goniopora, and Platygyra.
#corals #calcification #microstructures #skeleton
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Hi Joana,
I am not 100% sure what questions you are asking but if you are interested to compare the effects of ocean acidification (i.e., lower pH) on coral skeletons you have some options. Looking and comparing basic skeletal corallite structures at macro-morphological (e.g., corallite diameter and wall thickness; septal and costoseptal thickness and high) and micro-morphological levels (e.g., septal teeth height) would be relatively easy. You can look at the thickness and porosity of the skeletal material in general. Recently new studies have been done on pH effects on crystallographic features of coral skeletons (see attached paper). I hope the attached papers will assist you in getting your answer, the reference sections are full of good papers.
Cheers,
Tom
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Hi everyone! Thank you in advanced for any help given. We want to perform the analysis of mineral deposits on our samples, by evaluating the presence of calcium phosphate through the analysis Ca and P deposits (atomic percentages). We are obtaining a graphical P signal. However, no numerical data is observed.
We are currently using HITACHI S-3000N, Japan (SEM/EDX) and our samples are coated with gold (120 seconds).
Any advice or recommendation will be appreciated! Thank you and have a blessed day!
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By chance, I just had the inverse problem: I tried to find very small traces of Au, hoping for Au M-alpha at 2.123 keV (see Dirk's answer). This is, in the low energy range at least, the most intense EDX peak from Au. Indeed, I first had to make sure that my sample was totally free of P (2.139 keV). There are also some other elements (metals) that could be problematic.
Btw, EDX works very nicely with ESEM, so I usually leave my samples totally untreated, and image them in 100 Pa (or more) of water vapour. If you have no ESEM option, and you need no imaging, you, too, could try without coating, as suggested by Dirk.
One more point, which you might know already: Never *ever* trust your EDX % for C and O. You will always either deposit or remove carbon, and often also oxygen. I would guess you are interested in the P/O ratio. If so, you can test this with EDX of a well-defined sample of a stable phosphate, under exactly the same conditions that you use for your sample.
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Hi everyone, I want to obtain the elemental composition of a thin film coated on a gold surface. What I need to prove is that the presence of sulphur in the thin film. Which analysis gives better proof? SEM-EDX or XRF?
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let me first summarize some facts:
i) 'thin' film containing sulfur (S) on top of gold (Au) layer
ii) S containing film:
S K-edge: 2,47keV
S fluorescence lines:
S K-alpha: 2,3keV
S K-beta: 2,46keV
iii) Au substrate:
among others;
Au MIIIedge: 2,74keV
Au fluorescence lines:
Au MIIINIV: 2,39keV
Au MIIINV: 2,41keV
Data were taken from J. A. Bearden tables:
conclusions:
a) The energy position of the S K-beta line is about 50eV above the Au MIIINV line; but due to the limited energy resolution of the detector (assumed to be about 120eV) S K-beta will not be seen in the presence Au MIIINV.
b) The energy position of the S K-alpha line is about 90eV below the Au MIIINIV line; but due to the limited energy resolution of the detector (assumed to be about 120eV) will not be clearly seen in the presence Au MIIINV.
c) thus the Au lines have to be omitted or extremely minimized.
There are two ways to do this.
i) avoiding, that excitation radiation will reach the Au stubstrate
and/or
ii) reduce the excitation energy to below Au MIII-edge energy.
XRF scenario:
In the case of XRF, you have to have x-ray photon excitation energies of above the K-edge energy of sulfur, which is at about 2,47keV. For a significant fluorescence yield you have to go to x-ray tube voltages of well avove 2,47kV, at least some 100V above. However, for the maximum photon energies of such an x-ray spectrum you will have penetration depths in the very low µm regime; thus the x-rays will also hit the Au layer beneath your thin film and will be able to excite the Au MIII core level, when the energies are above 2,74 keV.
SEM-EDX scenario:
In the case of electron excitation one will have sub micron penetration depths for the whole electron scatter cascade, when you deal with quite low primary electron energies*). The penetration depths of the primary electrons of such a beam is much smaller.
So there is a chance, that you will have only a small fraction of primary electrons, which will be able reach the Au substrate.
If one in addiiton restricts the electron beam voltage to below 2,74keV; there is no possibility to excite the Au MIII fluorescence.
Final conclusion:
a) XRF is, to my opinion, not suitable here, due to the strong S- and Au-peak overlap.
b) SEM-EDX may work, if the electron acceleration voltage is restricted to below 2.74kV (but well above 2,47kV).
Good luck an
best regards
G.M.
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I am looking for articles to support my paper as a reference. Thank you
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It's not 100% clear to me what you are doing. Do I interpret correctly that you made an electrode out of brass, used it in an electrochemical device for 24h and then analyzed it in SEM/EDX?
In that case the 24h is probably a convention within your community in order to get publications which investigate the aging of the electrode to be comparable. People could probably have chosen a different time frame, but multiples of 24h are, of course, well-plannable and -executable time frames.
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The problem is that the weight quantities sum exceeds 120% while all the standards (two different sets including pure elements and compounds such as LaB6, RbI, AgI, NaAlSi3O8) lay in the range 99.5-100.5. No signs of cathodoluminescence are visible on the spectra, no visible sample degradation or silver migration to or from the analysis points both in BSE or SE modes. The spectra acquisition area was about several tens of microns.
May it be caused by x-ray reabsorption-reemission in the substance? Can it be corrected or taken into account?
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Thanks, Marcella Bini,
We performed a single-crystal x-ray experiment. It is certainly a homogeneous compound with a defined structure, however, it still can be non-stoichiometric
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I am trying to observe the microstructure of AZ91 alloy by polishing it till 1-micron diamond paste cloth polishing and later etching it with 100 ml ethanol, picric acid 5 gms, acetic acid 5 ml, 10ml water for 10-20 sec (till brown films are formed).
But I could not find any grains in the Optical microscope or SEM.
Can anyone with knowledge in this aspect suggest to me what is an appropriate method to attain microstructure? and what are the points to be kept in mind for this process?
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Try repolishing, by a 1 micron diamon you should get a mirror surface, also try using Nital ( 90% metilic alcohol in 10% nitric acid).
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Hi, I have an oxide layer formed on carbon steel at room temperature. When I performed SEM on a cross-section moulded sample, I've started noticing some black areas (in red rectangular) within the oxide film.
Please note that the sample is moulded first, then is sectioned.
What could be these black areas? Resin?
Thank you
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It definitely looks like some organic contamination. Was cooling liquid applied when sectioning? Was specimen polished after sectioning?
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The average size of metal complexes is higher using SEM analysis. while XRD analysis shows lower in size; what is the reason behind it.
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The thread that Sourav Roy recommended will get you the answer you need.
In summary of the thread: XRD measures crystallite size which is inherently different from particle size as measured by SEM. In general, particles are multi-crystalline (i.e. having multiple diffracting crystallites) which XRD inherently measures.
Good luck.
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Hello, can anyone help me with interprétation of the quantity of lead in this sample
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You need to repeat your analysis. There are lines on your spectrum (possible O and Si) that were not taken in account. It looks like Pb alaysis was performed on M lines, which are overlapping with Si line. You need use L lines, but then it's better to repeat X-ray acquisition at 20 kV. Without using L lines it's mostly impossible to say if presence of S is real and not an artefact produced by software. And if you were using standardless analysis (and I am sure you were), then results for C (and O) are mostly useless.
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Polymers are generally damaged easily under high-voltage SEM due to low thermal conductivity. Although some papers are indicating that the accelerating voltage for PMMA can be as high as 20kV, I wanted to ask what is the maximum voltage that PMMA/GNP can tolerate.
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The best practical resolution in FE-SEM usually can be reached at accelerating voltage of about 1-3 kV. Higher voltage just increases the interaction volume via increasing the depth of electrons penetration into the sample surface and actually spoils the resolution. 20 or 30 kV is used for EDX or some "exotic" applications, e.g. to localize some contrast structures under a covering layer. It has no advantages in routine imaging.
Please read this discussion:
Good luck!
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Data is provided in terms of wt% and Atomic wt% of elements. So how do we identify the mineral?
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@Rehan Abid Thank you sir for your well explained suggestion.
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I have UV spectra of metallic nanoparticles and I want to get DLS data about it using calculations as it's possible
this is due to " I got sizes using SEM, TEM, XRD that are very smaller than obtained of DLS"
I think the DLS is not correct and I want to be sure from UV spectra
How can I make sure of this?
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You say nothing about your metallic nanoparticles, what they are, the route of preparation, or even a simple picture to show that your system is transparent (may be colored e.g. a gold sol) free from turbidity or settling (if so then the system is not nano - < 100 nm)
My translation of 'I think the DLS is not correct' is 'I do not like the (larger) DLS results'. But your question is confused. I read it that you have UV data and want to obtain DLS data from these. You can't convert UV data to DLS data.
Have you actually obtained measurements with DLS? If so you're getting much more information complementary to electron microscopy but you can't compare apples with turnips. What is being measured in both cases is totally different:
  • Number distributions versus intensity (proportional to [volume]2) distributions. One expects number distributions to be considerably smaller than intensity (or volume) distributions. If you have a headache and take an aspirin, do you take 4.5 billion particles or 500 mg? There are billions of small particles but they may not make a significant mass (= value/$) for the total system
  • Many millions or billions of particles are measured simultaneously in the ensemble DLS measurement. Microscopy may examine only a few (selected) particles
  • Incorporation of the protective layer around the metal colloidal particles in the hydrodynamic diameter measured by DLS. With electron microscopy you only measure the electron rich core of the particle ignoring the important surface layer (which governs the stability and the interaction with the environment). The core and the shell are vital properties of the system and useful information (but different) is obtained by comparing the electron microscopy with electron microscopy data
  • Agglomerates and aggregates plus contaminating larger material will be seen in the DLS data. If you have small quantities of these larger 'contaminants' then DLS will see them but you may conveniently) ignore these with electron microscopy
  • Further, XRD (line broadening) does not measure particle size, but crystallite size, so again you're making comparisons that are not valid
I have a bunch of questions for you:
  • Have you measured your system with DLS? If so did you filter all your liquids to 0.02 μm or better? Please provide some results so we can see the magnitude of the difference
  • If yes, then I assume you've verified the performance of the system with the appropriate standard. This removes the instrument from the equation and then you're into an understanding of the techniques issue plus sample preparation
  • How many particles did you examine for electron microscopy? To get a standard error of 1% on the mean you will have needed to examined 10000 particles
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Dear expert colleagues, it is a well-known fact that SEM-EDX analyses give acceptable results from about Na on (i.e. no precision is expected for light elements as O, C, N, and so on). My questions are the following:
1. Let us assume that we have EDX atomic% data on a surface, containing C, O, and heavier elements. If the data on O and C are not precise, can we still trust the relative atomic % values of the heavier elements? Or we should treat the whole thing semiquantitatively? What about changes and tendencies? Are they reliable?
2. If we use wavelength dispersive analysis, do the atomic% values become reliable and comparable with those of the heavier elements?
3. How do EDX and WDX compositional data compare with XPS or XRF atomic% data? Can EDX and WDX data be used at all without model-matrix studies?
I would appreciate it if you could quote review articles on these aspects. So far I have tried to find some, but I did not find what I really looked for. It would be helpful to hear the opinion of colleagues who use these methods in their daily practice not only for elemental mapping but also for obtaining (semi)quantitative compositional data.
Thank you in advance
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First of all, having a light element matrix might not be detrimental to quantitative EDX (or WDX) : it all depends -as Vladimir Dusevich said- on having a "good" SEM (well calibrated for quanti), being a "good" operator (knowing what to do and more importantly, what NOT to do), and having "good" standards" (or having proved that one of the quant models works on your samples/matrix).
It is easier for example to quantify heavier elements in a light matrix that is suited for quanti, than for instance Carbon in Steel (for which EPMA would be used).
One of the ground rules would be : if your sample is not smooth, dense (non porous), homogeneous, conductive, isotropic and finally thick enough for electrons not to strike through ; then you can probably forget about precise quantitation by SEM-EDS (or WDS, does not matter).
Plus, you should be aware that "standardless" analysis, (whatever the model, ZAF, PhiRhoZ, P&P...) as provided by all manufacturers is always worse than having your personal standards, ideally on the same matrix as that you will be analyzing (most always difficult to do).
If you're not familiar with quant SEM-EDS, you might want to start with : https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9781493966745
D.E.Newbury again...
I could suggest French books as well if you read French (lots of work done in France on quant SEM-EDS models back in the 70s and 80s).
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Kindly provide related reference for justification of difference in elemental composition between ICP AES/ AAS and SEM-EDX
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Dear Rakesh Kumar , as stated before by William Letter and Vladimir Dusevich these are different methods and have different element sensitivity.
Perhaps the differences you observed are caused by that reason, but probably it could have something to do with the way these two methods are applied to samples.
ICP AES give you information about the whole sample, since this is prepared as a solution that is sprayed into the plasma plume for analysis.
SEM EDX however, provides information from a solid sample, and that information is quite local, both in the depth direction and the analyzed area because the electron beam is focused in a tiny area of your sample and the electrons only penetrates till certain depth (depending on the electron beam energy and the sort of materials forming your sample).
Imagine that your sample is heterogeneous, for the sake of simplicity let it be formed by just 2 components (A,B) in realtion 1:1, distributed in grains of say 1 mm3 they are both soluble and can therefore a representative aliquot of your sample can be sent to the ICP-AES, which retrieves the real composition of your sample (A1B1) (remember the sampling is key). Now, you analyze another sample fraction by SEM EDX, if the beam is focused on a grain of component A, then you get the composition of this component (A), but may be some of B too, because some electrons were able to reach some grain of B, so you can get something like A0.8 B0.2, that clearly is different from the real one A1B1.
You could also hit a grain of B with reverse results. Even if you take enough EDX data from different regions on the surface of your sample, they could not be representative, imagine A and B are forming layers, they still are in 1:1 proportion, but an EDX analysis of the surface would give you mainly the information about the external layer, or just it if the layer thickness is enough to avoid the electron beam reach the second layer.
Hope this helps. Good luck with your work.
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When we are evaluating the remineralization in the interface layer between the sealant and enamel using scanning electron microscopy (SEM)could we assess in the same time the mineral content in a quantitative way of the interface enamel?
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I do not understand what type of remineralization you expect to find, but crystal structure of healthy enamel is pretty dense and do not allow any significant infiltration of a resin. Of course, dental bore makes rather rough surface of an enamel, and applied resin will fill all the crevices, so there will be no flat, even interface. Additional difficulty is that resolution of standard EDS procedure for an enamel is about 2 microns (some paper erroneously state that infiltration is the same 2 micron, their authors just do not know what "resolution" means). In your case mapping is rather useless, even if pretty. I would advise to use line scan, as was already suggested by Ahmed Samir Bakry .
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I am new to XPS technique. I submitted my samples for XPS analysis. One sample was only substrate i.e pumice supported iron nanoparticle and pumice had Si in it. While other sample had mercury too. I asked for mercury analysis only not silica. I was surprised to see mercury peak in only substrate samples (i.e without mercury). After looking literature I found that Si2p has similar binding energies with Hg4f.
Now my question is how I can identify that which part of peak is for Hg4f and which one for Si2p. I have attached the figure for both sample that I got from instrument operator.
Thanks in advance.
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the attached file is useful to understand this subject.
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Dear colleagues,
I am a researcher working with bovine hydroxyapatite. I want to reduce the percentage of carbonate on the sample. Is there any suggested techniques for this? I am measured the carbonate from EDX (SEM-EDX). Thank you
Thank you.
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Dear Maria Apriliani Gani,
These may be addition of impurities, high temperature and environmental conditions can reduce the formation of carbonates.
Bone mineral is not pure hydroxyapatite. The small, plate-shaped (20–50 nm long, 15 nm wide, and 2–5 nm thick) apatite crystals contain impurities, most notably carbonate in place of the phosphate groups. The concentration of carbonate (4–6%) makes bone mineral similar to a carbonate apatite known as dahllite. Other substitutions are potassium, magnesium, strontium, and sodium in place of the calcium ions, and chloride and fluoride in place of the hydroxyl groups.These impurities can reduce the crystallinity of the apatite , and, in doing so, may alter certain properties such as solubility. The solubility of bone mineral is critical for mineral homeostasis and bone adaptation.
Carbonate substitution in apatite each control the crystal’s perfection and crystallite domain size, affecting material properties, in different environmental conditions. High temperature substitution methods indicating a higher energy barrier for the formation of carbonate.
Ashish
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I want to characterize a wastewater sample (mainly Nitrogen), can it be done in SEM EDX? if not is there an alternate strategy to use liquid samples?
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SEM provides detailed high resolution images of the sample through focused electron beam across the surface and detecting secondary or backscattered electron signal while Energy Dispersive X-Ray analyzer is used for elemental identification and quantitative composition. Here, the electron beam hits inner shell of an atom knocking off an electron from the shell while leaving positively charged electron from an outer shell to fill vacancy.
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I obtained a XRD diffractogram with significant broad band at low 2theta levels, also around 30 2theta another smaller broad band appears. It all points out to the existence of an amorphous phase. The SEM-EDX points out Mg, P and O in the sample. The structure it formed is a common one for a specific magnesium phosphate, and some of its peaks are faintly visible if we ignore the broad bands. My question is can the amorphous phases present or even the presence of carbon materials mask the presence of a crystaline phase?
Or maybe, as I didn't have as much material for the analysis and a microsampling was used, can it have caught mainly the amorphous phase only and not the crystal phase under it?
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I fully agree with Dr. Gerhard Martens  , and add one comment.
In case some semi-crystalline phase is intimated mixed with the amorphous, a razing angle experiment may give some additional evidence. It will probe a higher amount of sample per unit of sample holder area. 
When such a mixture exists, the experiment gives some information. The background mainly caused by scattering at this condition would be lowered.
Perhaps it makes you sure of the points already pointed out.
Best regards
WNM
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Generally it is known that SEM is based on the principle of interaction of electron beam with matter. Proton and ion beam can be used instead of electron beam? How their interaction will be different?
which type of emission source gives better imaging?
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In general, proton and ion beams will also lead to secondary electron emission from a surface and therefore allow secondary electron imaging. The interaction of ions differs from electrons, for example, in the energy transferred to an electron in the sample. Due to the large mass ratio between ion and electron, the energy transferred to an electron is in general small. This means that only electrons scattered very close to the surface will be able to leave the sample and contribute to the SE image. Using ions as primary beam therefore allows to produce very sharp SE images provided the beam focus is sufficiently small. This is achieved in the helium ion microscope (HIM) where a field emission ion source is used and beam spot sizes below 1 nm are possible. The helium ion beam is also comparably gentle to biological samples compared to electrons. Furthermore, charging of insulating samples that significantly reduces image resolution can be avoided more easily in a HIM by providing electrons for charge compensation.
Other ions can be used for SE imaging too, for example in a typical Ga focused ion beam system. Here, however, SE imaging is not the primary purpose of the machine, but ion milling. SE imaging is used to find the right place on your sample before the milling is started. So, it is possible, but probably not the ideal choice if you are only interested in the SE image.
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I am working on 2D nanosheets. During the SEM-EDX and XPS analysis, I got too much difference in atomic percentage.
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The probe depth of XPS is about 10-nm which is a surface sensitive technique whereas EDX can vary from 1 to 3 microns - "bulk" analysis technique. The thickness and homogeneity of elemental distribution in the sample will thus cause different results by the two techniques.
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I have synthesized high entropy oxide with (Ni Zn Cu Mn)1-x Cox composition. At x=0.05 the microstructure became rod shape As the content of cobalt increases, the microstructure changes, and spherical shape is observed.
How it can affect the microstructure?
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In the process of particle synthesis, the thermodynamic system tends to minimize the change in the Gibs energy. This energy consists of contributions from the structure (interactions between atoms) and the contribution of surface energy. Of all geometric shapes with equal volume, the sphere has the smallest surface energy. This natural phenomenon is clearly seen on the example of obtaining emulsions. The emulsion always produces balls, not cylinders. Therefore, our Earth is spherical.
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I have SEM image of cross section of multilayer thin film sample and need to represent the different color for different layer without losing its morphological information on the image. Is there any free software for doing such type of job ?
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Digital Surf is selling a version of Mountains (metrological topography software) that has a "SEM" version for 3D stereo reconstruction but also does colourization. Pretty nice results...but, it's not free.
If you're limited to free software, try GIMP and work as a digital graphics guy would : detour, select and use layers to colourize.
Or, if your sample allows it, you can use two or more detectors to generate different contrasts : use one detector image as the Red layer, another as the Green layer, etc and generate a colour image from your contrast texture (still using the GIMP).
Lots of video tutorials online.
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Extracted chitin was subjected to Kjeldahl method, the result of nitrogen level obtained was 1.7 % ; however, EDX elemental analysis present various values of nitrogen form 3 to 6 %.
How can we explain this difference?
is each method present specific meaning of percentage?
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Proper quantification of light elements (such as N) by EDS is a tough task. It requires use of standards and good understanding of the technique. I believe that your results (as well as results from the paper you mentioned) were obtained by means of standarless analysis, which produces huge errors in light elements analysis. If you need bulk analysis of light elements (not a microanalysis, where EDS excels), use other methods, discard EDS results.
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I have SEM/EDX parameters corresponding to a cementitous material. In order to help identify the different species, scatter plots representing Si/Ca vs Al/Ca are common (also S/Ca vs Al/Ca).
I would like to know where those ratios come from; I initially believed they would be atomic% values, but the results make no sense. The parameters I have measured are:
- Apparent concentration
- Intensity correlation
- Weight%
- Atomic%
- Compound% (oxides)
- Number of ions
I assume Compound% is out of the question and, since the calculated Atomic% ratios are much higher than those found in the literature (tipically, between 0 and 1), I believe it would have to be one of the first three; presumably, Weight%.
Would you be so kind to provide some insight on the matter, so that I can fully understand what I need to do?
Thank you.
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Jürgen Weippert Thanks for your answer. The machine is a FEI Inspect S50, the software is included with it. I did not use it myself, I only processed the results. The ratio calculations were done with Excel, simply by dividing both Atomic percentages for each case.
After a thorough search, I found an article where it finally specified that the ratios were, indeed, calculated with normalised %atomic results. In my case, as I later discovered, many of these calculations made no sense since I had a mixture of different components close enough for the spot size to be unable to focus on a single one, and therefore was getting unusually high amounts of some elements.
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I have just started to gain basic information about gas sensing materials. So here, I want to know what materials are in touch nowadays for efficient gas sensing, and what are the corresponding advantage and disadvantages?
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When it comes to the choice of materials for MOGS (Metal Oxide Gas sensors) applications, materials which exhibit high resistance variation upon exposure to the test gas is considered as most suited. Not all metal oxides can be used as a sensor material. In the last 50 years of sensors research, the choice sensing material has always been empirical. However, the thumb rule for a metal oxide to be used for MGOS application is that, the surface chemistry of the metal oxide should be in such a way that it is sensitive to oxidizing or reducing atmospheres. The details are available in plenty of review articles like this one : doi: 10.3390/s91008158 .
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I'm doing SEM/EDX for nanofiber with some additives and EDX results change from time to time for the same sample. Also the results are not consistent with the amounts of materials I use in my experiment. I'm thinking about test period, is there specific time requirement for the test? Is the time controllable or it's automatically determined by the device? And if detection period changes, will the results be the same or it is updated with time due to enhanced detection??
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Of course, the acquisition time is affecting the results:
1. Obviously, there is just a statistical effect: number of counts. The columns in the histogram are "jumping", then become stable. Just the law of large numbers.
2. Beam damages. The beam destroys the sample. This is especially important for thin samples (films, coatings, etc).
3. Carbon deposition under the beam. Even the purest chamber has some carbon contamination (SEM users know this annoying effect very well - dark spots).
4. Charging. Including local degradation of conductive coating.
Thus, in ideal world it would be easy: more counts, higher precision. But the real physical world is more complex. Experienced operators can choose the most optimal parameters of analysis. Sometimes, it is a kind of art.
Good luck!
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I am thinking about doing SEM-EDS images in plant samples to verify metal distribution and accumulation. In both roots and leaves (mostly checking metal accumulation in trichomes). But I am unsure of how many biological and technical replicas would suffice to infer anything about the plant patterns of metal distribution. The papers I've been reading really don't specify that, even after metal quantification, or even after statistical analyses. How would you do it? Is it the standard minimum of 3 biological replicates? Or 1 biological replicate with several images? Appreciate any opinion on this.
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I assume under "replica" you mean "specimen".
For publishing in bottom-feeding journal you need almost nothing, and one specimens will be more than enough.
For more presentable journal you need more specimens. At least 3 controls and 3 of interest. If you are going for statistics, then after measuring 10 specimens ask a statistician how many specimens (in addition to 10) do you need.
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Plants samples preparation for SEM-EDX analysis.
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Dear Jun Kawai , energies above 15 kV are rather good for EDX, energies below 0.5 are not too bad, L and M lines are used widely, contamination is a serious problem, and water is specimen is unwanted substance.
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As we know that the if the atomic percentage of copper is 66.85 Cu and Se is 33.15 , then the composition is Cu2Se. Is there any formula to calculate the elemental compositions of Cu3Se2,Cu5Se4,Cu7Se4 ...? If the atomic percentage of copper is 78.50 and Se is 21.50, then what will be the composition ? 
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Dear Prof.Ian which parameter we use in the EDS report for calculation of the composition the wt% or at% and how reliable is this method to know the composition
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I have to done use SEM-EDX for the imaging and elemental analysis of a fabric coated with metal nanoparticles. Do i have to sputter coat the fabric with is coated with nps ? Can i take the SEM images without sputter coating? I want to know, will i get dark image of fabric with illuminated nps on it. If yes then its fine if no then i want to know is the fabric visible? And if the gold sputter coating will have any reaction with coated nanoparticles which could alter edx data/result .. Suggest please.
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Hello Savy Panamkuttiyiel Minal,
The raised topic is interesting. In order to have better visibility, it is necessary to apply a coating with metal nano particles. Most often, the metal coating is made of gold due to its good conductivity and does not react with the biomaterials. Problem remains the size of particles that can change surface roughness because they are not the same size. may even block some openings. That's why the share of metal particles could be best. for analysis. This joints in special conditions with pre-fitted vacuum installations.
Wishing for success in scientific work.
Regards Emil Yankov
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I need to decide which SEM (with EDX) model to buy. I am told that in going from 100 to 200 nA, there is not much to be gained. I just needed to cross check this claim and educate myself about specific cases where it is advisable to buy one vs another.
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100 to 200 nA? Are you sure? It is huge even for a FIB (typically max ion current is about 100 nA). The spot size will be terrible (micrometer?!). Most common parameters for EDX - current from 0.1 to 1 nA, HT from 10 to 30 kV, almost all normal SEMs meet these conditions.
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I have done my research on Perovskites, RP Phases, Spinels, Ferrites etc. & characterized it by using X-ray diffraction, Rietveld refinement etc. I have also analysed them by using SEM, EDX, TEM etc. & also done their electrical and magnetic studies. Can anybody suggest what research I can extend beyond this.
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This is not the way to get PDF positions. Try to search different countries in your research area. Send an emails to the concern professors by updated CV and your publications list. Wish you good luck.
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Hi all,
Attached are SEM images of different types of zeolites (3A, 4A, 5A and 13X in that order). How do we interpret these images?
I would like to see the differences in the cage structure/ framework of A and X types, the homogeneity of the pore size distribution which is characteristic of zeolites, location of the cations added in the crystal lattice and adsorbed gases in the pores. If SEM is not a suitable technique, will TEM be helpful?
And also we have around 1.5% carbon in the sample obtained from SEM- EDX analysis. Is it because of coverage of active sites with coke or some CO2 adsorption?
I would be very thankful to the insights provided.
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Of course you should not crash your specimen. The worst thing to do, actually. Your beads are small enough for SEM, so you can study their surface and you can crack in half some of them to observe inner structure.
TEM specimen preparation is much more challenging, your lab should have proper equipment for materials specimen preparation.
Anyway, you will not get answer on your question about " location of the cations added in the crystal lattice and adsorbed gases in the pores" with the help on conventional electron microscopy.
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I doped TiO2 with silver but the results of SEM /EDX do not show the existence of silver in the samples what does it mean???
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Go for XRD
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I have prepared Ag-TiO2 nanoparticles, and used them in surface modification of NF membrane. The concentration of Ag-TiO2 nanoparticles was varied on different membranes ( From SEM image: the loading amount of Ag doped TiO2 nanoparticles exhibit an obvious increase with the increase of the concentration ) but the EDX results showed that the percentage of sliver element in the total elements for Ag-TiO2 are almost same or even decreases on increasing the nano particles concentration. Do you think oxidation of the sample is the reason? Or is there some other phenomenon that explains the contradiction of SEM and EDX results?
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I agree with Walther, but I guess XPS would be more appropriate to give accurate answer. EDX is very tricky and you need to know many things, basically the EDX detector gives you numbers and then you need to think and do quantitative analysis to figure out exact contents of the element. In this regard oxygen is one of the trickiest element to play with and its not easy, even with XPS.
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Hello,
I did a SEM-EDX analysis (attached in the picture) on Inconel 718 alloy. I am not sure how to analysis the data I got. In the data I got, there is significant weight percentage of Oxygen (O). But, there is no Oxygen in Inconel 718. Also, the percentage of Nickel should be 50-55%, where as in the data it is only 17.12%. Can you please explain what is the reason behind this discrepancy? Thank you!
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You have very good EM facilities at your university and I believe you can discuss your results with an operator face to face, in detail. For sure results you were given are not good, not up to the level I would expect for your EM lab. For beginning I would ask these questions:
- Why C content was so high? Was specimen coated with C (but who need it for a metallic specimen?) or SEM is just very dirty, with high level of carbon contamination?
- Where O and F came from? Wrong identification?
- Why quantification was performed without utilization of standards (standardless quantification is prone to errors)?
- In how many spots analysis was performed (test for homogeneity and/or presence of a second phase)?
For beginning you can discard results for C and O and normalize the rest of elements. It will give you some insight, but results will be still poor. For example you have too high concentration of S, possibly because its peak was superimposed with Nb L peaks.
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I immersed scaffold containing sodium alginate and CaCO3 in SBF solution for 28 days and observed the HA formation using SEM/EDX (Hitachi TM3030 Plus) with gold coating. This machine can go up to 15kV and the highest magnification with clear image only up to 5000. I followed Kokubo and Takadama 2006 for SBF solution preparation.
In my EDX results, the elements that can be detected only C, O, Na, Cl, Ca, Au. The P element always hard to be detected and only present in very minute percentage. So, I cannot get Ca/P ratio around 1.67.
Do you have any idea why this is happening? Thank you
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1. Get synthetic HA , check your system with it.
2. You cannot expect to get Ca/P ratio of 1.67 with any EDS system if you do not use proper standards. You have to perform quantitative analysis with standards.
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Actually i want to screen my multiple samples to observe the size of synthesized nanoparticles, so which technique is better SEM with EDX or TEM?
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Dear colleague, It is difficult to speak about a better technique is such a case. It really depends on the question you would like to answer and on the materials you are planning to use. The particle size is playing a role. TEM or SEM? In any case the smaller fractions, let say below 5 nm diameter, can only be analyzed in a satisfactory manner in a “very good” SEM free of astigmatism and please using some gamma-control object for adjusting the brightness and contrast. Only changing the brightness the diameter of nanoparticles can be varied easily between 80% to 120 % of nominal diameter. This effect is stronger for small particles than for bigger ones and influences further calculations containing the volume, density... some interesting calculations before starting experiments will be helpful, e.g. if the nanoparticles are very small, most metals will be present as oxides if working in air. Bigger particles will be covered by oxide layers, some of them contain sulfur, chlorine , etc. An idea of the dimensions for non-corroded particles you may have, if you calculate the number of atoms contained in a 1nm diameter gold nanoparticle. Good luck. Alex
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Hello all,
I loaded 15 wt% Co3O4 on mesoporous carbon nitride
After getting EDX mapping, I found out that there is just 1 wt% on my final sample.
The process of loading cobalt oxide on mesoporous carbon nitride include three main steps (stirring, drying and calcination)
If anyone could help me, I really appreciate
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How do you calculate 1 wt%?
EDX measure what you have on the surface + ~20 micron down in the volume, because you have light carbon matrix. Then you use quantification tool (depends on the model of your EDX spectrometer), this tool calculates weight % of what microscope and EDX detector are seeing. This literally mean that mostly you will have carbon, because it's your matrix and everything is contaminated with C-based compounds. Thus, your 1wt% is automatically incorrect.
The best ever option is dissolve Co3O4 from a weight portion of composite and simply titrate it. 2h of work and you will have 100% quantitative result!
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how to transfer lithium sample from preparation facility to the working equipment chamber ?
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there is a transfer module which can make it possible. Example below:
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I have analysed my air samples filter papers in SEM/EDX.
The compostion of elemets reported were in weight % and atmoic %.
But how do i convert those weight% reports to concentration values with reference to the pollutant concentration of that specific sample.
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Dear Gerhard
Say my initial weight of filter paper is 142.046 mg and final weight of filter paper is 142.302 mg.
I get EDX results in weight composition of elements.
E 1 = 10%
E 2 = 35%
E 3 = 67%
Then as per your suggestions,
Weight of individual element,
E 1 = (10% / 142.302)
E 2 = (35% / 142.302)
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we have a result SEM-EDX and FTIR
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Grace:
Kindly see this link for useful insights.
Best
Syed
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Dear all,
I've acquired EDS maps during SEM analysis using an Oxford EDS device. I would like to know if there is a software which allows me to process these data (create scatterplots, compare element peaks, etc) or at least which allow me to convert these databases into .eds files. Could you please help me?
Thank you very much for your availability in advance,
Ignazio
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Probably you already checked the Oxford Instruments webpage for data export options (https://www.oxford-instruments.com/products/microanalysis/energy-dispersive-x-ray-systems-eds-edx/eds-for-tem/aztectem/data-processing-and-export), but since we don't know which software from OxfIns are you using (Aztec, Inca, ...), it will be hard to suggest some useful protocols...
Anyway, this script from HyperSpy can import Oxford data (.rpl): http://hyperspy.org/hyperspy-doc/current/user_guide/eds.html
and it comes with a rather nice manual.
Also, here are some useful hints how to access the .raw data in Aztec:
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Suggest some books on XRD, SEM, and EDX of material?
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For SEM analysis: Lyman, Charles E., et al. Scanning electron microscopy, X-ray microanalysis, and analytical electron microscopy: a laboratory workbook. Springer Science & Business Media, 2012.
For XRD analysis: Waseda, Yoshio, Eiichiro Matsubara, and Kozo Shinoda. X-ray diffraction crystallography: introduction, examples and solved problems. Springer Science & Business Media, 2011.
For EDX analysis: Russ, John C. Fundamentals of Energy Dispersive X-Ray Analysis: Butterworths Monographs in Materials. Butterworth-Heinemann, 2013.
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I intend to map out the elemental composition of the concrete SEM images. I have information from sem/edx analysis such as the spectrum, weight% and atomic%. From my readings, is it true that I should calculate the Z contrast hence from the result, I can get the pixel intensity of each element presented in the sample?
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The picture looks like low-mag SE or SE + BSE (some microscopes can use both detectors simultaneously) image. It is fundamentally impossible to convert it to an elements map. As Dr. Dusevich said, use EDS.
Good luck!
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Can someone please analyze my SEM-EDX of activated carbon? I need the interpretation on the other day.
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First of all, is the AC commercial one or you have prepared it? how have you mounted the sample, on glass substrate or anything else? AC should have in principle, carbon and surface oxygen from the process...Silica or Si also would be an element from background, either environment or support material...but elements like K or Ca probably from the support material...unless until you treat the AC with some chemicals, what did you expect from EDX?
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I am getting different wt % of Pt and Ni in my sample (rGO-PtNi) by SEM-EDX and ICP-MS. By ICP-MS I am getting higher ratio what will be the reason for this discrepancy. Thanks
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Both methods for good quantification require solid knowledge of techniques and are prone to errors. In addition quantification with EDX is very difficult when specimen has large amount of light elements in its composition (like graphene oxide); in this case I would rather believe ICP-MS results. But value of Pt/Ni ratio should be more reliable than wt%, so you may be interested in comparison of this ratio between methods.
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Hello there,
I was asked to do a quantitative EDS analysis on a bone sample from an archeological site (bronze age).
The sample is a piece of a bone (fistula) that was found fractured.
The elements which I was told to look for are:
Manganese, Strontium, Magnesium, Calcium, Copper, Barium, Vanadium and Zinc.
The guy who gave it to me hopes to derive the typical food diet from the data I will provide him.
He also asked for Ca/Sr ratio specifically and is hoping for a hint on whether the excavated man died because of a fracture or if the fracture was introduced post mortem.
Sample is from the fractured area and is approximately 10x5x5 mm big and it is not flat (it is rugged or hilly).
I also have some samples of soil from the site.
Preliminary random point analysis in ESEM mode (65 Pa, 30kV) shows Ca, P and a little Mn in the bone.
In the soil, Si, Cu, Al, Mg, K, Fe and some more (I think sediments from water streams or something) were found.
I know that without standards for the elements of interest and with a rugged sample the quantitative analysis is flawed, so i plan to:
1) chip a thin piece off of a sample
2) grind the piece somehow to make it as thin as possible
3) then mill the piece to powder
4) perform analysis after point 2 and 3
What would you do? Is my plan OK? What tools to use for the chipping/grinding/milling so i do not contaminate the sample? What else should I take care about?
Thanks in advance for any advice :)
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There are several preparation ways which can be called "fixing in hard matrix". The easiest and undemanding (to my opinion) is to make polished section in epoxy resin.
First of all you need an epoxy resin and hardener. Usual epoxy from hardware store is applicable (with certain limitations). Howewer using epoxy designed for scientific needs (e.g. Struers EpoFix or analogue) is easier and gives better result. If you have some contacts with people performing sample prep for geological samples you may ask them about epoxy (or even to ask them to prepare your sample).
P.S. If you did not work with this epoxy before you should previously try to make an empty sample to check how does it harden.
Then, you have to cut your sample. The flatter will be cut - the easier will be following work. After cutting you can grind the bone on a coarse sandpaper a little to flatten the surface. Avoid using dirty tools or you will get unexpected results!
Then wash and dry the sample. Put a piece of double-sided sticky tape on a flat surface (usually glass is used) and place flat side of your sample on it. Place a plastic ring around your sample (I use rings cut from silion hose) and prepare epoxy with hardener. The component ratio is usually written on a bottle. Mix it properly! Then pour it into the ring (for porous samples you can put a few drops of mixed epoxy directly to the surface of your sample to fill the pores and only then put it on a tape). Epoxy loses viscosity with temperature so you can warm it up to 50C for better result. It will harden in a day, but for further preparation it will be ready after 3-4 days.
P.S. If you grease inner surface of the ring with a small amount of silicon lubricant you can remove the ring easily.
After 3 days unstick the sample from base and ring (it can be hard, be careful!), wash it from silicon lubricant and sticky tape's glue. Then grind it on sandpapers (e.g. from 240 to 1200) and polish until you get good surface (e.g. on diamond 6, 3, 1 microns).
Here it is written how to make polished sections:
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I had done SEM-EDX for my TiO2 sample, i found the stoichiometric ratio of O:Ti is between 3-5, may i know what species is the TiO2? Is this ratio acceptable? Theoretically, O:Ti ratio of TiO2 should be 2.
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Probably its because of the presence of C-O species and/or other contamination. You should analyse the O1s and C1s XPS peaks and use for quantification only the component of the oxygen peak that is related to titania.