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To check the expression of JAK2, STAT3, SRC and indoleamine 2 and 3 dioxygenase genes in the blood samples of people who do not have any immunological or hematological diseases, is the best way to isolate PBMC and check gene expression in PBMC or Can this be done in whole blood?
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Dear Morvarid,
There are a number of methods to extract RNA. If you are intending to use an RNA extraction kit, any reliable company offers high quality kits. However, more conventional methods also result in high quality RNA. Depending on your aim (whether you test blood cells in an experiment or not) RNA can be extracted from blood and from isolated PBMC. In order to have high quality RNA, you must have highly viable cell pellet. Either extract RNA right after spinning your cells, OR snap-freeze using liquid nitrogen and store in a reliable -80 freezer until RNA extraction.
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I have been trying to isolate good quality from mouse spleen for a while, but my RIN scores are always around 7 or below. My workflow typically includes harvesting the spleen in sterile pbs, sectioning it into 500um slices, staining overnight (rpmi and 1% bsa + antibody), imaging, dissociating in pbs, performing FACS (sterile method), collecting the pellet (centrifuging sorted sample), then lysing in trizol for rna extraction. I know that there are many steps that could be affecting the quality, but I always make sure to include an unprocessed control that is dissociated in trizol immediately after sectioning, and still the RIN is not satisfactory. There was one time I was able to obtain a RIN of 8.3, but I am wondering if there is anything specific I need to do to get reproducibly high RIN scores. I think my processing steps are not affecting the quality that much since the RIN scores of my unprocessed sample and processed samples are usually in the same range. Any advice would be valuable!
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Sabine Strehl alright then i will try doing that thanks again!
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Is there any affinity of microRNA to glass surfaces? I tried to homogenize brain samples in order to get maximum yield of microRNA.
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the glass surface is likely to adsorb DNA/RNA, it's better to use some other beads such as ceramic or metal https://lab.plygenind.com/mastering-bead-selection-for-effective-homogenization
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I found only kits which purify genomic DNA and total RNA sequentially. I'm looking for a protocol for isolation of total RNA and plasmid DNA from the same sample in mammalian cells.
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Hi,
Did you find a way to do the RNA and plasmid DNA extraction from the same samples?
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I'm optimising a new RNA extraction protocol from yeast. The RNA extraction with formamide works great (the yield of RNA mass/YDM is even better than our established protocol) but the final volume of formamide in which the cells are disrupted makes the sample very diluted. I was thinking of ethanol or LiCl precipitation, maybe using SpeedVac (although formamide boiling point at normal conditions is 210°C so I'm not sure how possible this is; for two-phase extraction the only common solvent it doesn't mix with is diethyl ether which does not dissolve nucleic acids well). As the formamide extraction protocols don't seem popular, the published sources are very limited. Does anyone have experience concentrating RNA in formamide?
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I'd try isopropanol to remove the formamide. Should be more efficient than ethanol (at least from experience with precipitating nucleic acids from aqueous solutions). Basically, any solvent that is partially miscible with formamide should do the job, as long as the RNA doesn't dissolve in it. So, in the end, it will precipitate.
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I am currently working in the process of automating our research lab to be able to process a higher number of samples. Our work consists in detecting and quantifying pathogens in mammalian samples (e.g., blood, faeces, tissue, swabs). As such, I am interested in an automated extraction system which produces good DNA/RNA yields to be sent for NGS.
Until now, we have been using Qiagen kits for our manual extractions, so I thought that a machine from the same brand would do for us. However, I've been told that the QIAcube Connect does not really take that much work out of your hands, and that the sample volume obtained at the end of the process with the QIAcube HT is way lower than the one with the manual kit. I have also checked other machines, such as Thermo Scientific's Kingfisher Flex and its kits, but do not know how well they do in comparison with Qiagen's kits.
Based on your experience, which automated extraction system would you recommend? And which brand of kits have you used with it? The system and kits do not need to be from the brands mentioned here (as long as the produce good results).
Thank you very much in advance.
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Laia-M. Pardinilla back when i worked in the diagnostic laboratory, i used CyBio Felix from AnalyticJena. It is also based on magnetic beads technology and it is fully automated, you can modify the program, customize configurations.. and we had two of them, so we could process 192 samples at once, i really liked that one https://www.analytik-jena.com/products/liquid-handling-automation/liquid-handling/flexible-benchtop-liquid-handling/cybio-felix-series/
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I'm currently working with an organism which has no established endogenous control mirna that I could use to normalize qpcr data. I'm thinking about instead using an exogeous control mirna such as the ce-39 mirna to normalize quantitative data. I'm thinking it would be best for my purposes to spike it in before rt/cdna synthesis but I also see many papers where it's spiked in during the rna isolation step.
So I suppose I have two questions:
1) Is it valid for me to use an exogenous control to normalize qpcr data when I have no real other option?
2) Can I simply put it in before the cdna synthesis step and then compare the mirna results of my gene of interest to it? Or do I need to put it in during the rna isolation step?
I have seen it mostly as an rna isolation spike-in but this was also when they couldn't control for the amount of rna being put into the cdna synthesis, whereas I am able to obtain enough rna (I'm not using plasma/serum, which is known to be difficult to obtain mirna from) to control for the amount being put into cdna synthesis. 
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Usama .. thanks for your response. Please I'll like to know if it's possible to do relative quantification without endogenous genes as he earlier mentioned. Thanks
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I isolated cells using magnetic beads, but I didn't remove the beads from the complex (sample-antibody-beads). They are still linked. However, I would like to know if is possible to extract the RNA from these cells while still coated with dynabeads (magnetic beads). Does someone have any clue/idea about the possibility to do this without compromise my sample?
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Thanks a lot Laura Leighton ! I really appreciated! You actually mentioned something that I have totally forgot before (about the use of column kit to purify the RNA). In fact I'm trying to avoid it from the beggining, but the principle that the beads could block the column can be applied for other similar/procedures as well... Thanks a lot for your answer and share your thoughts!
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My concentration was 123.5 ng/uL
260/280 Ratio - 1.725
260/230 Ratio - 0.401
Can I synthesize cDNA from the above RNA?
Need suggestions please.
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For cDNA synthesis, high-quality RNA with an A260/A280 ratio of 1.8 to 2.2 is ideal, and a minimum concentration of 1 μg/µL is usually recommended. For Real-Time PCR, the optimal RNA concentration is highly dependent on the gene of interest, and can range from 1 ng/µL to 500 ng/µL.
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I am using Trizol reagent for RNA Extraction
This is nanodrop evaluation after 1/10 dilution
Is this curve accepted
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Compare the amplification of samples like this to other more pure samples. If they cluster tightly around the same Ct, and the curve looks exponential, then it's most likely OK. I've also done real time for microRNA applications using SYBR green chemistry, was OK for me. You can check for inhibition by making dilution series, 1:10 would be ok especially if there's an abundant microRNA. See if you can find anything that has a Ct of 20-21 ish, with that you can make 1:10 dilutions (5-6 of them) or you could even check with 1:2 (half-half) dilution if your microRNAs amplify late (around after 30-33 Cts roughly). If you do 1:2 dilutions (that is half diluent half cDNA), remember your Cts will differ by roughly 1 (i.e. take 1:20 cDNA, make it 1:40, then 1:80 etc). So in the above case, if 1:20 came out at 25 ct, then the 1:40 should come at 26 Ct if amplification efficiency is near 100%. If you generate a 5-6 dilution series, you can get an idea if there is inhibition. I hope that makes sense to you.
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Hello!
Last week I found myself researching how different storage of cells in RLT buffer might affect the end results and found many different answers. Some say it is best to snap freeze the cells on dry ice, other say that room temperature is fine. Others mean that storage of cells on dry ice will severely affect the recovered yield. With all those different answers in mind I did a little test and thought id share it with the network.
I used equal amounts of BR5 mouse cells for each sample and then did different isolation methods, namely;
1. collect in lysis buffer, isolate RNA immediately, measure RNA, freeze on dry ice for 1h, measure concentration again
2. collect in lysis buffer, incubate in RT for 2h, isolate RNA & measure
3. collect in lysis buffer, incubate on ice for 2h, isolate RNA & measure
4. collect in lysis buffer, incubate on dry ice for 2h, isolate RNA & measure
I found that there is no significant difference in RNA yield between the treatments, on the short term. So, if you forget your samples in RT, you should be just fine!
Attached is a more detailed presentation of my findings
Best,
Linn
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Thank you for this great insights. Do you think that we have to check the integrity of RNA isolated by those different ways?
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I wanted to perform RNA extraction of U937 cells (Human Myeloid Lymphoma) by TRIZOL method, after adding TRIZOL to the sample I had kept it for incubation at room temp. and since I was not able to Extract RNA immediately I thought that I will keep it at -80C however I forgot to keep the samples at -80 before leaving. I wanted to know If I should proceed with RNA extraction as It will 2 days that the sample will be in trizol and after which I can process it as I am not able to find any article related to this.
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It should be fine:
RNA in solution at room temp is far more stable than people think: the real danger is RNAse activity, which will be effectively zero in trizol (because you will have denatured all the RNAases).
It's not _ideal_, in that -80 storage is absolutely a better idea, but you don't really lose much (beyond a couple of hours of time) just extracting the RNA and having a look.
Alternatively, stick the samples in -80 and run the extraction alongside other samples in future.
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I wanted to perform RNA extraction of U937 cells (Human Myeloid Lymphoma) by TRIZOL method, after adding TRIZOL to the sample I had kept it for incubation at room temp. and since I was not able to Extract RNA immediately I thought that I will keep it at -80C however I forgot to keep the samples at -80 before leaving. I wanted to know If I should proceed with RNA extraction as It will 2 days that the sample will be in trizol and after which I can process it.
Thank you.
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You shouldn’t have forgotten to keep the sample at -80 degree C before leaving the lab. Anyway, such incidences keep happening! For your information, RNA is stable in trizol which deactivates RNases. However, the sample can be kept at room temperature at this point for, at most, a few hours, or the sample can be frozen for later use at -80°C.
So, you should not proceed with RNA extraction for this sample which has been kept at room temperature for two days.
Best.
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For MNV preparation, I inoculated MNV in Raw 267.4 cells (70 confluence) in a 6-well plate for two days, after observe CPE, I froze 6-well plate to -80C fridge for 1h and thawed at 37C water bath for 2min. This freeze-thaw cycle were conducted 3 times. then I collected supernatant in 6-well plate and centrifuged. I collected cell supernatant again to stock at -80C until use.
For MNV RNA extraction, I used QIAamp Viral RNA MINI Kit. I followed the protocol in the kit, added 140ul MNV stock to and used tips with filter. Before experiment, I spread RNase Away to clean the bench. All procedures were conducted on the bench.
After I extracted RNA, I used nanodrop to test concentration and purity. The concentration of my samples was about 50ng/ul, but the number of A260/A230 ranged from 1.16 to 0.49, much lower than 1.8. I'm not sure the most possible reason may cause contamination in my samples, or during my process.
if my MNV stock concentration is too low?
if my working environment is not clean enough?
or some hints for operation on RNA?
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Are you sure freeze/thaw is the best idea here? One of the main problems with RNA isolation from cells is that as soon as you disrupt the cells, all sorts of RNAses get liberated from their normal cellular context and start just chewing up anything they can find. By repeated cycles of freeze thaw, you're essentially bursting the cells and letting the RNAses do their thing, multiple times.
If I were doing this, I'd removed the supernatant from the wells, wash 1x with PBS, and then literally just dump trizol (or equivalent) straight into the wells and squooge around with a cell scraper. This would be what I use for RNA isolation. Addition of trizol (which contains chaotropic salts and bucketloads of phenol) unfolds everything near enough instantly, and stops RNAses working.
The other issue you have is that 260/230 is a ratio, so a low value can reflect salt contamination (high 230), low [RNA] (low 260) or some combination of the two. And you don't have a lot of RNA (unless you have a large volume at 50ng.ul-1).
You can reprecipitate your RNA, as Mohamed Khashan suggests. Reprecipitation usually brings down 'most' of your RNA but much less of your contaminating salts, and also allows you to decide what an appropriate volume would be for dissolving the pellet (i.e. a tiny pellet could be dissolved in 10ul, while a massive pellet might warrant 50ul).
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We want to perform a human RNA extraction from cell culture for an RNA-seq, but we have a viral RNA extraction kit (Quick-RNA™ Viral Kit-Zymo research) available. Therefore, we want to know if any methodological issues can interfere with the results if we use the viral kit.
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It is generally not recommended to use a viral RNA extraction kit for the isolation of human RNA, as the kit is specifically designed for the isolation of viral RNA and may not efficiently extract human RNA. Additionally, the reagents and protocols used in the kit may not be optimized for the isolation of human RNA and may lead to poor quality or quantity of RNA. It is recommended to use a kit specifically designed for the isolation of human RNA, such as the Quick-RNA™ MicroPrep Kit-Zymo Research.
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Hi!
I am trying to understand whether it is important for me to use an RNA Cleanup kit (such as NEB Monarch #T2030S).
I am isolating microbial RNA from an environmental liquid sample, and I subject this RNA to subsequent DNAse I treatment. Does it really make a difference if I do not clean up the inactivated DNAse and buffer salts, and just go on with RT/qPCR? I am guessing it should work without a cleanup, but does such a cleanup help in some ways that I might be missing? What is your experience?
Thanks!
Artur
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RNA cleanup kits, such as the NEB Monarch #T2030S, are typically used to purify and concentrate RNA samples prior to downstream applications such as reverse transcription (RT) and quantitative PCR (qPCR). These kits can help to remove contaminants such as DNA, salts, and proteins that may interfere with downstream reactions.
It is important to note that even after a DNase I treatment, DNA contaminants can still be present in your RNA sample. So, if you are performing downstream applications that are sensitive to DNA contamination, such as RT-qPCR, it is recommended to use a RNA cleanup kit to purify and concentrate your RNA sample.
RNA cleanup kits can help in several ways, including:
-Removing any remaining DNA contaminants after DNase I treatment -Removing salts and other contaminants that may interfere with downstream reactions -Concentrating the RNA sample to improve downstream sensitivity and specificity
In my experience, RNA cleanup kits are an important step in the purification and concentration of RNA samples, and can help to improve the sensitivity and specificity of downstream applications such as RT-qPCR. However, it's worth noting that some RNA purification methods are based on selective binding properties of the RNA molecules to specific silica beads, and this can lead to bias in the recovery of different RNA species. Therefore, it's always good to check the recovery rate of your target RNA species after purification.
To sum up, it is recommended to use an RNA cleanup kit for downstream applications of your RNA sample, particularly if you are performing RT-qPCR, to remove any remaining DNA contaminants, to remove salts and other contaminants, and to concentrate the RNA sample. However, it's worth checking the recovery rate of your target RNA species after purification.
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I have got a good yield of RNA from my tissue samples (chicken intestines) and my 260/280 ratio is the in range of 2.0 - 2.09. However, the 260/230 ratio is appreciably low, in the range of 0.2 - 1.5. Can somebody please suggest a solution? My tissue samples were frozen in RNAlater. RNA extraction was done using Qiagen RNeasy mini kit.
Does a low 260/230 ratio affect downstream applications i.e cDNA synthesis and qRT-PCR?
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I have the exact same problem using this kit, did you ever find a solution to this? I have also carried out a DNase step but my 260/230 values are still very low!
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I isolated RNA from fish intestines, and here are my results. The pictures were my two attempts. I already tried lowering the RNA concentration (<1000 ng/ul) by diluting it with nuclease-free water. Apparently, not many published papers did fish intestine RNA extraction, so I can't find a reference that would help me understand my result or if I did something wrong. I did RNA extraction of the kidney, liver, and spleen from the same fish before, and they were okay. So I think the intestine needs an additional step to get the three 28S, 18S, and 5S rRNA bands? The gel electrophoresis was done using 1% agarose, 60V for 20-30 min. I also added FluoroVue to the gel, and the samples were preserved with Trizol at -20 or -80. I used 10kb ladders. Any insight, advice, or suggestions are appreciated. Thanks!
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To deal with possible RNAses, dissolve agarose in TAE/TBE buffer containing 2% Hypochlorite (v/v). That should inhibit RNases.
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in trizole method RNA extraction the smashed sample with trizole was preserved in normal freeze (-4) for 5 hours then bcp was added. will i be able to get results??
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It shouldn't be a problem but you should move your samples to a -20 refrigerator soon. Samples in Trizol can stay viable upto 6 months at -20.
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I need to do RNA extractions of a large number of samples from developing wheat grain, and plan to do them in the batches of 12. Is is sensible to keep the homogenised samples (with pestle and mortar using liquid nitrogen) on dry ice whilst the entire batch is homogenised before proceeding to the extraction protocol? Keeping in liquid nitrogen would probably be best but is dry ice also safer? The first/foremost sample will have to be on dry ice for roughly 1-hour by the time all 12 are grinded.
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Yes, you can use keep your homogenised samples in dry ice for 3-4 hours. It is safe and will not affect the result
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Hi everyone,
I'm looking for RNA extraction kit for isolation from cultured cells. I'm working with neuronal cell culture (SH-SY5Y).
Thank you in advance for your suggestions.
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Dear John Hardy Lockhart,
Appreciate for your suggestion.
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Hi everyone,
I performed a qPCR to assess the collagen type 1 gene expression in the mesenchymal cell line.
prior to the test, I got a little amount of total RNA than what I regularly get (10 ng/ul) as the cell growth was low.
so during performing the qPCR I found out that my housekeeping gene has a Ct of about 30 but the target gene (collagen 1) has no Ct in 40 cycles. so I decided to extend the cycle number to 60 cycles. I observed the Ct for collagen type 1 on cycle 50.
if there were no primer dimer and nonspecific products in the result, is this result reliable for gene expression assessment?
thank you for your kind guidance in advance.
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As a rule of thumb, 35-36 cycles is enough to amplify just about anything (i.e. a single starting template molecule), and for qPCR you can usually assume a Cq of ~35 represents the absolute lower limit of detection.
Accordingly, Cq values of ~34 = 2 molecules, ~33 = 4, and so on.
A reference gene giving a Cq of 30 means there are countable numbers of reference transcripts in your wells (~30-40 or so), and this should never be the case for a reference (which should generally be fairly abundant). You have very little starting material, and the reference is telling you this.
Remember, you...cannot have less than one molecule in a well. PCR doesn't work on "half a template" or "0.001% of a template": there's a molecule there, or there isn't.
Getting a Cq at cycle 50 means it isn't there.
Alternatively, you could have a ruinously inefficient PCR, in which case you'll see what _should_ appear at cycle 25 actually appear at cycle 50 (or whatever), and if this is the case, your data is meaningless. This isn't so bad, though: you can always redesign primers to get a more efficient PCR reaction.
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I am doing RNA extraction using trigent (trizol equivalent ) , when I precipitate the RNA by iso-propanol I had a semiliquid very transparent colorless layer at the bottom. Is this the RNA pellet? or I need to do further steps to get a semi white pellet?
Thank you in advance
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why my total rna on gel looks like oneband at the top and a smear on the bottom not a clear band..the rat tissue was stored in trizoand then processed in qiagen kit...i am unable to understand why it came like this..please help
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I am trying to find a protocol for cDNA library preparation. The problem is that we have to extract RNA from a very low volume of plasma/serum (less than 1mL. Since we are only using 1mL of blood, the starting volume of plasma/serum will probably be in the ballpark of 500 uL). We usually use NEB library prep and Qiagen for RNA isolation. With the latter, we get a decent yield but we need at least 3mL of input serum/plasma. Since most kits require at least 100 ug of input RNA for library preparation (we are trying to aim for 100 ng), we are trying to find a protocol that will allow us to use very low RNA sample input (concentration) to get a decent read without high adaptor dimer formation. In addition, any recommendation on the extraction of RNA from a low volume of plasma/serum is highly appreciated.
Thank you!
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All RNA extraction and library preparation techniques studied consistently detected small RNAs, but several miRNAs had considerably variable amounts. The relative relevance of minimizing the amount of total sequencing required, finding uncommon miRNAs, or absolute quantification should be considered while choosing the best methodology.
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I'm going to make a phasemaker tube for RNA extraction like Thermo fisher Co.
Which polymer do you know has a density more than chloroform but lower than phenol?
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mRNA is said to be a very unstable species of RNA which degrades rapidly making it difficult to isolate a significant amount of it from cells. However, RNA extraction protocols use protein denaturation buffers which potentially denature RNase enzymes, so what could be the cause of mRNA degradation in these extraction processes?
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Hey, just want to add to this even though this thread is pretty old. I thought the responses on here were thoughtful and super helpful so I'd like to chime in.
Nowadays, you can get most of your disposables Nuclease free because they gamma irradiate and pre-sterilize them.
you can buy water that is nuclease free.
as mentioned earlier, the older, sort of golden standard for water with RNA work was DEPC treated and that works fine for certain stains but for alot of downstream molecular biology applications are inhibited by depc.
I know people pulled off RNA research with less but if you can weasel in a budget for these, it might be a good move.
Also, I hear UV led lights are great for sterilizing pipettes, consumables, etc. we usually put our equipment under UV in a hood if we suspect strange results or contamination as a precaution. I'm a big fan of 10% bleach with di or milliq water to clean surfaces. I honestly avoid RNA zap and the like because it takes to look to dry and if I think my gloves are contaminated, I just change them for the sake of the experient.
just my 2 cents
RNA degrades if you look at it wrong.
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Hallo everyone,
I've been having some trouble isolating bacterial RNA from a gram positive organism for a RNA Seq analysis. My problem is that I always get a very intense "cloud band" on the agarose gel around the position where the 5S RNA band should be.. I've tried several protocols and kits, with and without bead beating, Trizol, Lysozyme, but it happens every time.. The first idea was that these are products of degradation, but then again the intensity of the 23S and the 16S bands clearly remains very high. And also, on a Bioanalyzer this 5S band definitely does not look like degradation, but rather as a sharp peak around 127 nt.. Does anyone have any experience with that? If this is in fact the 5S rRNA, why do I get such accumulation, how should I get rid of it and would it temper with my RNA Seq results?
Thank you all in advance!
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Hello Antony, which protocols have you used? In all of them you get the same result shown in the photo?
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When I try to perform an RNA extraction with the RNeasy Qiagen kit on my M. abscessus bacterial cultures grown in the presence of kanamycin or amikacin, the RNA concentrations obtained are very low and the ratios 260/230 very low. I noticed that following the centrifugation of my cultures, my bacterial pellets appear dark orange while the antibiotic stock does not show any staining. Washing my pellets with PBS does not allow me to get rid of this coloration. After the mechanical lysis of my bacteria, and the passage on column, I notice on the filter a deposit of the same orange color. I can’t find an explanation, and I don’t know how to solve my problem. If any of you have suggestions, I’m willing. Thank you very much for your help.
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Célia Bernard Because Aminoglycoside antibiotics promote misreading and inhibit the translocation of the tRNA-mRNA complex.
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Hi everybody,
I'm about to extract HBV-DNA from plasma. I have modified some homemade methods that are regularly used for Human genome extraction. But I could not get enough DNA for positive plasma samples. I also had a problem with a high concentration of proteins in plasma. I tried a high concentration of NaCl (6M), but it couldn't precipitate even 50% of proteins. I just have seen this problem with serum samples. Maybe it is because of the high protein concentration of plasma. By the way, I also don't want to use the phenol/chloroform method.
Who can help me?
Thank you for your consideration in advance
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Thank you both, dear Paul Rutland and Keyla Santos Guedes de Sá
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I'm working on an expression gene project for Human Ovum. I have six ova for each sample and have to extract RNA for cDNA synthesis. Can I go ahead with the conventional phenol/chloroform method for RNA extraction? Do I get enough RNA to assess gene expression ?
Thank you for considering my question
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Thank you very much Laura Leighton an Deepdarshan Urs
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As the capsid of viruses is mainly made of proteins, unlike animal cell membranes, can I still use the SDS lysis ( SDS, NaCl, Tris, KCl, MgCl2, EDTA) buffer for viral DNA extraction?
Do you know any protocol for none-column based Viral DNA extraction?
Is it ok to use phenol/chloroform precipitation?
I really appreciate any help you can provide.
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Have you referred to the protocol in the below attached paper?
If not, then you could try this protocol.
Best.
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Hi everybody,
I'm working on a set-up for COVID-19 RNA extraction, and Sodium citrate is needed in the protocol for lysis buffer and precipitation buffer. Do you know any alternative for sodium citrate that can be applied in COVID-19 RNA extraction?
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Thank you Dear Al-kuraishy
how about Sodium Acetate?
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I am having a hard time solubilizing proteins or extracting protein in general from the Zymo Research RNA miniprep kit (Guanidinium-based buffer). I am planning on extracting both the RNA (for RT-PCR) and protein (for Western blots). For the protein fraction, the kit specifies to precipitate proteins using acetone. And I had no luck solubilizing the precipitate. I also tried TCA precipitation with acetone washes but the pellet won't solubilize in RIPA. I also tried resolubilizing directly in loading buffer but got no luck still.
Is there a different way to extract proteins from a Zymo RNA miniprep kit fraction (like buffer exchange with a buffer compatible with western and BCA assay)? Or, how can I solubilize the precipitate?
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Serious question, have you tried calling their tech support? they are pretty helpful.
can I ask what your input is (how much tissue) and how much is your RNA yield? also, how fresh is your acetone?
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Hi, I've previously used the Qiagen RNeasy Micro kit for RNA extractions and got great results for primary neurons and oligodendrocytes. I've recently switched to the Meridian Biosciences Micro Kit which is the same concept, although uses TCEP instead of BME as a reducing agent with lysis buffer. I got next to no RNA and terrible ratios (less than 5ng/ul). I lyse my cells on ice with the RLY lysis buffer and TCEP combo before putting them in -80 to freeze. Would not snap freezing the cells in liquid nitrogen be the issue? I would appreciate any help!
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Hi Roisin,
why not stick with Qiagen? To expensive?
Well, lysation may be the problem. Can you check the conditions (time, temperature, etc.) under the good old microscope to see if you need to change anything?
Best
Boris
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Hi guys,
I have been having some issues with extracting RNA from A viteae L3s , the TRIZOL method doesn't seem to work very well, and I have been trying different speeds/times with the TissueLyser and beads from QIAGEN, and freeze/thaw cycles as it seems that cuticles are very hard to break. I recently tried the RNeasy fibrous kit as well, with less beating, but the RNA quantity is so low <10 ng/uL (nanospec read).
I always try to extract them (A. viteae L3s) along with some controls (like B. malayi L3 or B. pahangi), every time I change something in the protocols. The controls always work..
They come in 1X PBS and usually the number is about n ~ 500... As cuticles are rich in collagen, I was thinking of applying a treatment maybe with collagenase or if it's full of lipids to precipitate them with acetone ?
I am also afraid that too much processing might be shearing the RNA as well.... 
It has been a couple of months since I've been struggling with it so any similar experience/troubleshooting might be really helpful ! Thank you !! 
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Hi Marina,
Thanks for your reply. I think it's quite helpful.
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Phenol - Chloroform based RNA extraction methods are most widely used for RNA extraction. I am wondering if people have tried alternate methods for cell lysis (yeast, animal cells, plants cell, etc), specifically using SDS and proteinaseK ? The idea is to avoid phase separation-based methods and toxic organic solvents like phenol.
- What kinds of buffers can be used for lysis?
- How does one get rid of SDS and other chaotropic agents used during cell lysis?
Thanks for your valuable insights.
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Agniva Saha the problem was RNA integrity. I don't have my full protocol notes but briefly, cell lysis was performed in a 'gentle' buffer consisting of hypo-osmotic sucrose and 0.5% Triton X-100, agitated at a low temperature. I supplemented with superasin. Following lysis (which was incomplete after 30 minutes) the buffer was supplemented with 1.5% SDS and sodium chloride, Proteinase K was added, and Prot K digestion performed at room temperature for 45 minutes.
This whole protocol is a huge tradeoff between the needs of RNA (low temperature, rapid separation from other cellular components) and deproteination using Prot K (ideal reaction temperature 50-65C, and for deproteination of DNA after ChIP we do 4-hour reactions to get rid of all the protein.) The result was that I isolated less than 1/3 of the typical yield of low-integrity RNA (RIN ~5.5-6.5).
Compare this to phenol, which is such a strong protein and nucleic acid denaturant that it results in a) near complete lysis and b) near complete protection of RNA from endogenous RNases within seconds of efficient sample homogenisation. I don't really think there's an alternative that goes close.
I will say though, every method I mentioned above for avoiding phase separation results in no loss in RNA integrity if performed properly. I haven't done a head to head yield comparison, but my routine RNA extraction protocol involves Nucleozol supernatant mixed 1:1 with ethanol and run through a column, and the yields are better in my hands than alcohol precipitation of RNA, with better purity.
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Dears, I am doing qpcr of genes with cdna made of RNA from adipose tissue. In the efficiency curve of the primers, the cdna serial dilution does not promote adequate amplification. The less diluted points dots are having less amplification. Example: in the photo, the last amplification is the highest dilution (1:2). I believe it is the presence of an inhibitor. Has anyone dealt with this? Know what to do? The 260/280 and 260/230 ratios are fine. The profile on the electrofluoresis gel is also good. The RNA was extracted with silica glass beads (sterilized and washed with acid), Trizol according to the manufacturer, and then the material was washed with precipitation with 3M sodium acetate and 100% ethanol. Resuspended in nuclease-free milliQ water.
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I find a lot of people don't realise quite how dilute cDNA can afford to be.
cDNA synthesis buffer itself is inhibitory to PCR (it contains DTT, for example), and you can also inhibit your reaction by saturating the system with too much target (or too much non-specific target).
In almost all cases, cDNA should be diluted prior to qPCR.
I typically dilute all my cDNA 1/20 (so for a 20ul prep I add 380ul water, giving me 400ul of final cDNA), and using 2ul of this per reaction is _plenty_: it allows me to reliably detect even low abundance genes.
For reference I use ~1600ng of RNA in a 20ul cDNA synthesis reaction, so 2ul of diluted stock is ~8ng of cDNA, assuming 1:1 conversion.
In your case it may be nothing to do with the lipids and everything to do with just...generally using too much cDNA.
When running dilution curves of cDNA historically, I expect the extremes at either end to be unreliable: with too much cDNA you have all the issues noted above, and with too little cDNA you have stochastic effects and thus highly variable data. This is FINE. The whole point of a dilution series of cDNA is to establish the range over which your reaction is linear and trustworthy.
Find that range, use it, don't worry about the extremes.
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Hello!
I'm extracting RNA from fiddler crab (Leptuca pugilator) larvae and embryos for Tag-Seq. I've extracted using an RNAqueous RNA Extraction Kit and we wanted to determine RNA quality and integrity using the Agilent 2100 Bioanalyzer System.
I'm attaching screen grabs of the gel and peaks produced by the bioanalyzer. I expected to see 28S and 18S bands and peaks. However, I have one larger band on the gel and one large peak that seems to lie between 28S and 18S.
Has anyone seen anything similar using this instrument? Any insight would be highly appreciated. I would love to hear from someone that's worked with a similar species if y'all are out there!
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Artem Gorev Thank you so much for this! I completely missed this notification that you responded to my question. I ended up stumbling across the exact same PDF so I'm glad to see someone thinks the same as me. Thank you so much again!
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I am running RNA extractions on whole gut samples for downstream RNAseq. For one individual I realized there was a length of gut tissue still in the original collection tube that I didn't add to the homogenization solution. I'm not sure what region of the gut it actually is or proportionally how large it is relative tissue that was homogenized (it is smaller), but I'm worried that if there are regional differences in RNA expression profiles that will bias the RNAseq data towards the already-processed portion of the gut.
Is this sample salvageable? If I extract RNA from the leftover tissue, could I just combine the total RNA sample volumes from both prior to sending in for sequencing? Alternatively, if we sequence both separately could we normalize and combine reads somehow? Are there any other strategies that would be more robust to prevent bias? Thanks in advance.
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Was the gut that didn't get homogenised effectively protected from RNases? If the leftover tissue was: stored in a reagent like RNAlater the whole time, OR frozen the whole time and never thawed, then I think it would be fine to extract the RNA from it now and add that RNA to the existing RNA from the same sample. But if the leftover tissue sat around in the collection tube at ambient temperatures for even a minute longer than the other samples - it's gone, let it go. Substantial differences in RNA quality between samples can be a major source of bias in RNAseq experiments, so deliberately adding RNA which is likely to be degraded is a bad idea. (If you are in doubt at all, do you have access to a BioAnalyzer or TapeStation or other way to check RNA integrity? You could extract the RNA from the leftover tissue, compare the RIN of the new extraction to the previous extraction, and mix them only if they are comparable.)
I don't think preparing a second library from the RNA made from the leftover tissue and then sequencing that would be worth the effort and expense. I don't think it would be possible to neatly integrate this data into your experiment.
Whatever you end up doing, this sample will be different in some way to the other samples in your experiment. So you should run an outlier analysis at the bioinformatic level, and seriously consider excluding this sample entirely if it looks different from the other samples. Building in some extra n into RNA-seq experiments to account for errors like this (they happen to us all!) is a very good idea when feasible.
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Hello everyone,
I want to measure the expression change of some mRNA, miRNA, and LncRNA at once under a specific condition.
Since I am going to do relative quantification, is there any RNA extraction reagent that can extract all RNA molecules simultaneously?
I am willing to hear if you have other solutions rather than a reagent for all molecules.
Thanks for your help.
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if you have a budget go for small RNA sequencing and Transcriptome analysis.
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Hello! I've been extracting RNA from paraffin blocks using Qiagen's RNeasy FFPE kit and looking at DV200 to assess their level of fragmentation (this is to determine whether or not that tissue block is usable for downstream experiments).
For my first two rounds of RNA extractions, most of my tissues came back with DV200 > 50% (which is what we wanted). However, all of my RNA samples following the 3rd round of extraction (I've done around 10 rounds of RNA extraction since), came back with DV200 < 50% (very poor quality, high level of fragmentation). Among these are RNA from the same paraffin blocks which I've previously tested in my first 2 rounds of RNA extraction and had good DV200 value i.e. > 50%. I suspected something happened between my 2nd and 3rd round of RNA extraction but I couldn't figure out what. It's always been the same individual doing the tissue cutting/paraffin curl collection and RNA extraction. Has anyone ever encountered this problem before and could advise some things that I could do to improve my DV200 results? (Since I HAVE gotten good DV200 results before for some of my blocks, I reckon this is more the case of poor RNA extraction technique than the quality of the block itself.)
Thank you beforehand for your help!
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follow the link file:///C:/Users/MLTFAC~1.NWI/AppData/Local Temp/QMF27.0254.M6955%20v3.1.pdf
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Hi,
I am looking to send some RNA samples off for sequencing.
I have used a Trizol-Chloroform method for extraction on Gram positive bacteria that have been harvested and the pellet stored in RNA protect.
But I am getting lots of RNA degradation when ran on a gel, but TOO HIGH out of range when assessed on the Qubit BR RNA kit.
Any ideas?
Would these still be okay for sequencing?
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Excessive homogenization or heat can be an issue. Check your storage of sample. You can use TE buffer and Store at -80. Samples stored more than a year under inappropriate conditions may lead to degradation. RNAse inhibitors can be used while extracting
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Hi,
I sent off some samples for RNA seq and got a fail on their QC :(
I extracted using Trizol/chloroform.
I will attach the gel image they sent vs the gel image I have as well. Would it be okay to send off for sequencing as is?
Or should I clean up the extract?
If so, is there a protocol to remove DNA from RNA? Maybe DNase?
Thanks
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I have used RNALater and the RLT+ buffer (part of the Qiagen RNeasy kit) to disperse and store cells in -80 for up to 6months (just haven't gone beyond 6months but don't see why it shouldn't work), you can place about 8million cells in 1ml of either and then pulse vortex for 30 seconds (no pulse vortexing does not degrade RNA, we have actually looked at this using Invitrogen's qubit IQ4 and the Agilent bioanalyzer 2100 to compare both RIN scores for RNA quality, in fact, vortexing leads to higher total RNA yield). Others here are correct in suggesting the RNeasy+. I also use Qiagen's RNeasy+ kits with the gDNA eliminator columns. Removal of DNA is a part of the kit so you don't need to add DNAse to a tube containing RNA or add that inactivating slurry later.
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Hi all,
After having unsuccessful RNA extractions doing it myself the first time, and having the impeding time pressure of final year of my PhD, I am looking to send off some bacterial samples to novogene to have the RNA extracted from them for RNA seq.
I want to use RNAProtect to stabilise the RNA so that minimal degradation occurs.
How do I use it? I have read that it is generally 2x volume of culture, but I am working with 100ml cultures... Would there be a way to minimise RNAprotect consumption? Eg. Could I pellet a 100ml culture, resuspend in 10ml, for example, and then only use 20ml RNAProtect?
Thank you in advance
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In that case Jessica Little the handbook on that page suggests 10exp8 cells should produce between 25 and 70ug RNA depending on the growth medium used so it looks like you can count cells,spin them down,decant most of the supenatant and then make up to a small convenient volume and add rnaprotect. You might contact the company making the rna for you and check with their tech support how and in what volume they want their samples sent. They will have a lot of expertise in converting various sample types and volumes to RNA
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After adding .5 μL isopropanol in my sample i see 2 blurry clouds (one in the bottom and the other one in the top) in my sample. Anyone knows why this happens?
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Dear Pia, thank you for sharing this interesting technical question with the RG community. Unfortunately I'm not a specialist in this field of research enough to give you a qualified answer because we are inorganic chemists. However, I know that the solutions to many technical problems can be found right here on RG. In this case, please have a look at the answers given to the following closely related question which has been asked earlier on RG:
Cloudiness after adding isopropanol in RNA isolation using TRI-reagent. Why does it happen?
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As you will see, other researchers already experienced the same problems. There is also the possibility to directly contact some of the RG members who provided answers to the 2017 question and ask them for some personal advice.
I hope this helps. Good luck with your work and best wishes, Frank edelmann
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When performing Viral RNA extractions I perform a negative extraction using water. This is then run as a negative control for my RT-PCR reaction. Recently this control has been showing up RNAse P positive. In addition, when I run the same extract negative sample in duplicate on my PCR plate, sometimes I get RNase P in only one of the duplicates. What is happening? It only ever happens in the Extraction Negative, it never occurs in my PCR negative control.
This issue is occurring for multiple technicians.
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I am experiencing the same problem. I think it is not contamination but something with the oligo design.
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Since heparin inhibits reverse transcriptase, heparinase I treatments prior to qRT-PCRs are recommended. NGS also uses reverse transcriptase, so I was wondering whether anyone has tried doing a heparinase treatment of RNA samples prior to small RNA library preps? Is this a safe thing to do?
Thank you,
Clara
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Hi Annette, have you tried library preparation from heparin plasma? I am trying this now but unable to solve the problem.
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Hi everyone!
Currently I'm concerned with typical extraction of RNA from liquid samples in order to determine specific activity, i.e. detect active transcription of a few target genes. Since sample volumes are rather significant, I am looking to minimize costs of RNA stabilization. Fortunately, in the current setup I only need to stabilize the sample for a duration of ca. 30-40 minutes between sample withdrawal to RNA extraction bench. An opinion exists that for this amount of time, a stabilization solution is not even necessary, but it is difficult to assess this claim in the current setup for to several reasons not discussed here.
In any case, I do not need the *best* stabilizing solution, I just need a solution that will preserve the integrity of mRNA transcripts for downstream RT and PCR amplification for these 30 minutes. I know that supersaturated ammoniums sulfate solutions are used in similar situations, but it is also said that ammonium sulfate may interfere with downstream PCI-based RNA extractions. Maybe there is a simple way get rid of ammonium sulfate from the sample?
Any helps is very much appreciated :)
Thanks!
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Not an answer, but a suggestion:
How about rapid chilling of sample in liquid nitrogen or dry ice?
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Best way for plasma separate for rna extraction (miRNA and mRNA)
incase there is no cool centrifuges
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Think about it: plasma is usually at a near-constant 37 degrees. So whatever mRNA content it will contain will...probably be stable, at least in the short term, at anything at or below 37 degrees.
Thus: extract plasma as normal, using a room temp centrifuge, and then freeze the plasma. Freeze the plasma in modest aliquots (200ul is practical), so you don't need to keep freeze/thawing it. Store at -80.
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I'm doing RNA extraction with TRIZOL, but I just ran out. I saw some bottles identical to the TRIZOL so I assumed I had more but it turned out to be "buffer saturated phenol". 
is this the same as TRIZOL? Can I use buffer saturated phenol with the same volume as I use TRIZOL?
If it isn't the same, is it possible to freeze the cell pellet so that I can do RNA ext when I can get more TRIZOL?
Thanks!
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Tris-buffer saturated phenol is quite different from Trizol. The essential component of Trizol is guanidinium thiocyanate, the very powerful сhaotropic agent, which dissociates nucleoproteins. If you add to the saturated phenol 1% of SDS, you receive the gold standard mixture for the RNA isolation.
Good luck!
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Hi,
I'm doing RNA Extraction, Reverse Transcription and qPCR on synovium samples from mice that are dissected in half. I use Thermo-fisher RNAqueous Micro Kit for the RNA Extraction.
During RNA Extraction, I first remove the sample from -80 and immerse it in 100μL of lysis solution. then I homogenize the sample using the following mixture;
1. 10 ml PBS (without Calcium chloride and Magnesium chloride)
2. 1 tablet of protease inhibitor
3. 500μL Tween 20
then I add 1000μL of this mixture to my sample and use manual homogenizer to homogenize my tissue.
after that, I add 50μL of 100% ethanol to my samples and apply it to silica-based filter. then I centrifuge it at max speed for 30 sec.
then I wash it 3 times with 180μL wash solution 1 and 2 and centrifuge it for 10 sec after each wash. at the end, I centrifuge it for 1 min.
Then I replace the filter cartridge with new one and elute the sample in 7.5μL of elution buffer that is pre-heated to 75C. Incubate it for 1 min and spin-down for 30 sec. Then I repeat this step with another 7.5μL of elution buffer.
For Reverse transcription, I take 14.8μL of sample with 1μL of Oligo dT and 1μL of 10mM dNTP (16.8μL final volume)
then I place it in thermo-cycler for 5 min.
After that, I add 0.2μL of RNAase inhibitor, 1μL of M-MuLV Reverse Transcriptase and 2μL of 10x reverse transcriptase buffer to the sample and place it in thermocycler (37C for 50 min, 72C for 15 min, 4C infinite hold),
for qPCR, I dulcet the cDNA using 1:5 RNAse and DNAse free water, then further dilute it in RNAse and DNAse free water to get 1:50 dilution.
Then I add 4μL of diluted cDNA and 6μL of mixture including 0.6μL of forward and reverse RPLP0 primer (10mM concentration) and 5.5μL of 2x SYBR GREEN PCR Master Mix. and load my sample in 384-well plate and run it.
I tried changing my dilution to 1:25 instead of 1:50 but still don't have the result.
When I use cells (THP1) around 450,000 cells, Cq value is around 27.3 but for synovium is around 34. Still, both values are high for RPLP0 gene.
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Hi,
As I found out your Ct value is high, right?
There are many possibilities for the delay in Ct, the following solutions can be helpful:
1. Suitable concentration is 100 ng cDNA per 20 µL reaction. So, have you checked the quality and integrity of your extracted RNA using NanoDrops and agarose gel electrophoresis? Because you need to know your RNA concentration so that you can estimate your cDNA concentration in the next step.
Note: If the cDNA concentration is high, the concentration of inhibitors also increases and can result in a delay in Ct.
2. Suitable concentration of primers is 0.2 µM
If you tried these two and did not get the result, I suggest you change your materials. For example: using new master mix, sample re-extraction and ethanol percipitation, using RNA extraction kit and cDNA synthesis kit from other companies, using new master mix (from another company), etc
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I use a silica column based RNA extraction kit which includes a guanidinium thiocyanate lysis buffer. The kit was very good and I always got pure RNA with A260/280 higher that 2 and A260/230 higher than 3!! (first figure)
However, after a while -using the same sample- after RNA extraction randomly the A230 becomes negative! and accordingly A260/230 gets negative, too (second figure) .
The blank is the same Elution buffer. And I'm wondering what could be the reason!??
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Most of the time when that happened to us. It was the reagent we used for blanking. What did you blank with? Guanidine will result in a massive increase A230, not reductions. So unless you blank it with something that has a trace amount of guanidine (or any other chemical that could interfere there) then measure your pure sample, you will have negative 230.
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I have my blood in Paxgene RNA tubes. I'm quantifying with nanodrop and the kit handbook is not clear about the blank to used for nanodrop (to do a dilution in tris-hcl 10mM is what they recommend in the some proportion for the sample and the elution buffer (blank); but the results are similar and I think more correct if I just used the elution buffer to do the blank.)
My ratio 260/230 are about 0,33-0,68 , really low. I want to use it for RNAseq
Best regards,
Thanks in advance,
Mariana
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Mariana Batista Santos could you possibly send me your centrifuge speed and temperatures for each of the steps (your exact protocol)? I am using the same kit, and I am not sure on which centrifuge speed to start with, and I am short on time.
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Hi!
I have jellyfish samples (gonads and tentacles) preserved in ethanol and stored at -80º for about 2 years. I would like to know if I can use these samples to extract RNA for transcriptomics.
Thank you all in advance!
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Hi,
I recommend using NanoDrops and agarose gel electrophoresis to check the quality and integrity of your extracted RNA sample, so you can use it if it has good quality and integrity.
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Hi, may i know if anyone has experience in extracting RNA from oil palm kernels before? I have been trying to use different methods to conduct the extraction but none of the methods work till now. I have low yield, low concentration (almost none) and low purity of the total RNA at the end of the experiment (measured with Nanodrop). Can anyone please advise me on this? Thank you
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Hi Dr David,
Thank you so much for your reply. Really appreciate your effort. I will read up and try out your suggestion! Thank you so much!
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Dea All
I did gene expression analysis for a gene that is highly expressed under fungal diseases. The housekeeping gene did give ct values in the case of control and some treatments. I have read that I can take the average of all housekeeping genes and replace the missing with the average.
do you have any suggestions?
Can I estimated gene expression values without housekeeping gene
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Missing Ct value can only be handled with a fresh PCR experiment. Many researchers use previous Ct values of housekeeping genes from their other experiments, however this is a bad practice and one must discourage this.
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After and good RNA extraction with 260/280 and 260/230 ratios around 1.9 and 2.1 for both. I then applied a DNAse protocol to remove traces genomic DNA. My 260/280 ratios have remained unchanged but for a bunch of the samples the ratio 260/230 has decreased to around 1.0 to 1.45. The DNAse treatment has DNase buffer, DNase, and finally EDTA, some of those components are disturbing now.
How can I improve the 260/230 ratio and thus move to the next step of cDNA synthesis.
Thanks to anyone who can help
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Hello,
I hope this will works with you.
Thanks.
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Hi!
In single cell droplet sequencing, 2 cell lysis buffer are often chosen: 0.5%CA-630, or 0.2% sarkosyl 160 + 6 % of the Ficoll PM 400. What is the difference of these 2 choice in RNA yielding, mRNA completence and etc.?
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The main consideration when choosing a lysis buffer is whether the chosen antibody will recognize denatured samples. When this is not the case, it will be noted on the antibody datasheet, and buffers without detergent or with relatively mild non-ionic detergents (NP-40, Triton X-100) should be used.
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Even though we have tried denaturing and non-denaturing gels, different kits for extracting, TAE or TBE buffer, different samples, and more, we have not yet seen two separate bands. There was only one band on the gel for all the samples.
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Katie A Burnette
We were just concerned about 2 bands so we did not use the ladder. We tried a board of conditions such as gel concentrations of 1, 1.5, and 2 %- formaldehyde and non-formaldehyde gel- TAE and TBE buffer- 100, 120, and 170 v for electrophoresis
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Blood samples will be taken from remote areas. Blood will be collected in blood EDTAT tube not paxgene blood RNA tube. So we want to store blood samples and transport to lab for SARS-CoV-2 RNA extraction. Is it okay we isolate the plasma from whole blood on the same day of blood draw and then store the plasma at -80 for RNA extraction?
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Hi Mr. Abdullah,
In such situation, plasma collection and storage at sub zero temperature is the only option you have. You were already doing good.
Best wishes
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Hi everyone,
are there methods for the RNA extraction from mosses spores?
Could a method used for RNA extraction from pollen be suitable for mosses spores?
Thanks
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Dear Piergiorgio,
thank you for sharing this very interesting technical question with the RG community. We work in the area of synthetic inorganic chemistry, so that I'm absolutely no expert in this area. However, I made the experience that it often pays off to directly search the "Publications" section of RG for potentially useful literature references. For example, the following detailed protocol is freely available as public full text on RG:
Isolation of DNA, RNA, and Protein from the Moss Physcomitrella patens Gametophytes
Good luck with your work and best wishes, Frank Edelmann
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Hi,
I will be grateful if any one could give a detailed description on their experience/precautions to be taken with RNA extraction from breast tissue (stored in -80). I am planning to use Qiagen RNeasy mini kit and homogenize the tissue with help of crushing in mortor and pestle with liquid nitrogen followed by homogenizing with lysis buffer. I was wondering the normal breast tissue which is usually with fat, will homogenize in the same way? Any information related to this will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Qiagen has a RNA extraction kit specifically for tissue with a high lipid content (RNeasy Lipid Tissue Mini Kit) that might help maximize your RNA yield.
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We are going to do an RNA-seq analysis to study transcriptomes\ profile of different organs in terrestrial orchid species within genera including Dactylorhiza, Ophrys, Himantoglossum, and Orchis but their underground fleshy tubers contain high content of glucomannan (a carbohydrate which gives special rheological features to products obtained from Salep) and it's difficult to obtain a pure RNA in presence of such contaminations. Is there any special and home-developed protocol to extract a pure RNA sample suitable for RNA-seq analysis from such tissues?
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Sanaan Fathi thanks for your answer. We usually use Ethanol and Isopropanol in the RNA extraction protocol. The first one washing the resulted pellet and removing extraction solution or other contamination in the final step and the second one for precipitation of RNA molecules.
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Dear all,
I separated mice serum by leaving it at room temperature for aroun 1 to 2 hours and preserved these samples at -30 for a month and then I transferred into -80. Now i intend to measure microRNA, but i am not sure if the RNA is undamged or it has been degraded!!! people always ask me to be aware while working in RNA since it’s highly sensetive!! so what do you think?
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I think there is no problem in this serum preservation technique, because MiRNAs were considerably more resistant and has high stability than RNA.
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I boil 1.5g agarose in 100ml TAE 1x in three bursts of 30 seconds, swirling in the middle but a lot of bubbles remain
I have to remove by pushing them to the side when I pour the gel
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Is your agarose actually boiling after heating. If the gel mix is just very hot the bubbles may be air being degassed from the buffer. Actually boiling the gel will degas the mixture and will minimise bubbling
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During my extractions the purity of RNA 260/280 is not too high. So I'd like to know if there's anyway to improve purity. I make quantification with Eppendorf BioSpectrometer.
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Hi Keerthika,
How is your sample taken/stored? How did you homogenize your sample? Did you use trizol and chlorofrom? This is will help with removing the aqueous phase.
For future experiments- make sure your are cautious while removing the aqueous phase, using a 100ul pipette will help a lot.
Additional always use clean RNAse and DNAse free tubes for each step to avoid contamination. Use RNAzap if available to you between steps to clean your work bench and your hands frequently including pipettes (use barrier pipette tips if possible). Maintain temperatures as suggested by the kit/manufacturer throughout your experiment. You can also elude your sample in a smaller volume (try heating your water to 95c for elution).
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My cell pellet is preserved at -80 in qaizol, ready for manual RNA Extraction. But I bought a Qiagen RNeasy mini extraction kit with its own lysis buffer what I have to do in steps.
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YOu need to follow the manual protocol up to the chloroform step (DNA in aquous phase). then collect the aqueous phase and charge this on the kit column. this way you do not need to your the shredder column from the kit.
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Hi,
I am doing a trizol based RNA extraction on a knee joint sample. My 260/28o ratio is anywhere from 1.85 -1.95 for most of my samples, but my 260/230 ratio seems quite low (1.08-1.2). My RNA concentration also reads anywhere from 1800 ng/uL - 4000 ng/uL... I dont even know if that is possible. Does that mean my sample is super contaminated? What can I do to improve this? I need to run RTPCR on these samples eventually. Thanks for your help!
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Omkar Anaspure Hi! Since you are using traditional method like Trizol, it is usual for concentration be high as 900 to even 2000 ng/μL. This high concentration is mainly due to presence of salts, carbohydrates and mainly proteins and peptides. That is the reason commercial kits obtain low but average concentration, since they purify all the unnecessary compounds (50 - 200 ng/ng/μL).
If you want to improve your sample by eliminating the impurities, I suggest you to use the commercially available spin column extraction method (silica based usually) so that your purification can be quick and very effective! The purification of your RNA will also increase your A 260/230 ratio (Keep it preferrably 1.9 to 2.2).
I can suggest you 3 methods for your further studies:
  1. Since your sample is a knee joint (vertebrate) I suggest you to use Vertebrate Lysis Buffer (VLB) method of extraction along with spin column method for a rapid and very effective purification and isolation of your RNA of interest.
  2. You can also use the commercially available kit 'NucleoSpin RNA, Mini kit for RNA purification' by Macharey Nagel. I have personally obtained good results through this method.
  3. You can also follow the method mentioned in this paper: Chicken RNA Integrity Assessment through Capillary Electrophoresis for miRNA Expression Study using RT-qPCR (Vishnuraj et al., 2020) https://www.ijcmas.com/9-2-2020/M.%20R.%20Vishnuraj,%20et%20al.pdf
Hope you have your answer!
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I need to extract RNA from white blood cells (buffy coat layer) in human blood samples to do further RT-PCR studies. I am using Monarch's Total RNA Miniprep kit; however, the protocol card gives two a Mammalian Whole Blood option and a Tissue/ Leukocytes option. If I extract RNA from whole blood, what cells is the RNA coming from? Leukocytes, immature RBCs, etc?
If the RNA is from the WBCs, we would be able to do extraction directly on the whole blood sample.
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Nucleated cells. Mature mammalian RBC are not nucleated.
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I am currently centrifuging whole blood from a lavender top tube to separate out the plasma, buffy coat, and RBC layers. Then I use a pipette to suction off the plasma before removing the buffy coat and putting it in an Eppendorf tube. There is always lots of RBC in the sample. To get the RNA, I use the Monarch Total RNA Miniprep kit, but the 260/280 ratio is around 1.3-1.6 with 260/230 around 0.8.
Is there a better way to isolate the buffy coat and get more purified RNA?
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Dear Wei Li,
In addition to above suggestion:
1. Please use a density gradient separation medium with low endotoxin levels (such as Ficoll-Paque PLUS; density 1.077 g/mL) to separate PBMCs.
2. If feasible, use Qiagen's RNeasy Kit to isolate RNA from cells of your interest.
Hopefully, you will get the desired concentration of RNA with excellent 260/280 ratio.
Best wishes - Pradyumna
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Does anyone know about which carrier is better for RNA extraction: LPA (linear acrilamide), tRNA or glycogen? I need to analyze samples with low quantities of RNA, make c-DNA and Real time PCR. I heard that tRNA can inhibit c-DNA synthesis... is it true? maybe someone who has worked wtih these can help me! thanks!   
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Now I use Polyacryl carrier (MRC) for total and small RNA precipitations, which works well even in recovering minute quantities. In the past, I used glycogen which worked great too.
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Using Qiagen Allprep DNA/RNA simultaneous extraction kit
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The DNA contaminations can be easily removed by DNAse treatment.
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I would like to extract Mycobacterium tuberculosis RNA from infected host cells. Is there a method that I can use. Aim is to study bacterial gene expression using RT-qPCR.
I will really appreciate your assistance
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Dear Johannes,
You are going to use the general protocol to isolate RNA. RNA isolation
Starting material: 1* 10^6 📷
Method:
A. miRNeasy mini kit (Qiagen), follow the manufacturer’s instructions.
B. General phenol-chloroform isolation method
1- put your samples in safe lock tubes (larvae sample)
2- Aspirate media and add appropriate amount of QIAzol to each well of cells , then collect your simples in safe lock tupes, and go to step 4.
3- Shake the tubes in the Bullet Blender speed 8 for 3 min
4- leave your samples 3 min on room temperature
5- Add 100 ul chloroform to the tubes and centrifuge them 15min- at 4 degree and 10,8 rcf
6- Remove the aqueous phase to new, fresh 1,5 tube
7- Add 100 ul 2- propanol and shake 15 sec (you will see a cloud like structure when RNA is present). To increase yield, samples can be keep at -20 for a couple of hours or overnight. This step is specially important for zebrafish larvae samples.
8- Centrifuge for 5 min at 4 c degree at maximum speed for pellet formation
9- Discard the solution and wash the pellet with 500ul- 750 ul Ethanol 70%
10-Centrifuge for 10 min at 4ᵒc at maximum speed. Then, a clear white pellet is visible
11-Remove the Ethanol till a small fraction is still covered in Ethanol. Then, Place the tube vertically
12- Let the remaining Ethanol airdry till the pellet no longer white but translucent
13- Add 25 uL RNA free water to the tubes and mix it thoroughly using the pipet.
Note: DNA removal is necessary for certain RNA applications that are sensitive to very small amounts of DNA (e.g., TaqMan RT-PCR analysis with a low-abundant target). Please, Follow the instruction in Appendix E: DNase Digestion of RNA before RNA Cleanup in RNeasy MINi kit.
14- Store your sample at -80ᵒc
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Hi!
I am having problem with our microfluidic system for single-cell sequencing, that the cell cannot get lysed. Previous study ("Single-cell barcoding and sequencing using droplet microfluidics" https://www.nature.com/articles/nprot.2016.154) suggest using CA-630 in the Lysis-RT reagent and set the temperature of RT @ 50℃.
Is the cell lysed by CA-630, 50 degree or combination of both? I also tried having directly put cell in same concentration of CA-630 under 50 degree for same time yet cells are not lysed as well. How should I condition to realise cell lysing?
Thanks!
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