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I am currently utilizing the seCLIP sequencing methodology (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41596-022-00680-z) to extract RNA from my RNA-binding proteins. After performing Western blot analysis on IP samples utilizing a target antibody, I obtained positive results. However, when attempting to isolate RNA from the RNA preparatory gel using the IP samples, I observed a very low RNA yield of 1.25 ng/µL.
Here are the few details I think where the problem can happen:
1. Cell density was ∼15 million cells in a 150mm dish and UV crosslinking was done at 1575 and 4000mJ/cm2 with wavelengths of 265nm.
2. I used 10% BIS-TRIS gel for RNA preparation and transferred it overnight at 30V using a nitrocellulose membrane.
3. I have cut the membrane by using a developed western blot as a guide and cut out the membrane region starting from the observed size of my target protein and extending to ∼75kDa larger than my target protein size. After that, I digested the cut membrane pieces with Proteinase K as per the steps mentioned in the above publication and elute the RNA from the membrane. I observed a very low yield of 1.25 ng/µL. How much is the RNA yield we can get? Am I missing anything here to improve the RNA yield?
I would appreciate your assistance in troubleshooting this issue in order to obtain a higher RNA yield.
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Based on the information you have provided, there are a few potential issues that could be affecting your RNA yield. Here are a few things to consider:
  1. Crosslinking: The intensity and duration of the UV crosslinking can have a significant impact on the amount of RNA that is released from the IP samples. It's possible that the crosslinking conditions you used were too harsh, which may have damaged the RNA or made it more difficult to isolate. You could try reducing the intensity or duration of the crosslinking and see if that improves your RNA yield.
  2. Gel Electrophoresis: The type of gel you use for RNA preparation can also impact the yield of RNA. It's possible that the 10% BIS-TRIS gel you used is not optimal for RNA extraction. You could try using a different type of gel, such as a urea-PAGE gel, which may improve the yield of RNA.
  3. Proteinase K Digestion: The conditions used for Proteinase K digestion can also affect the yield of RNA. It's possible that the digestion time or temperature was not optimal for your samples. You could try adjusting the digestion conditions and see if that improves the yield of RNA.
  4. Membrane transfer: The transfer of RNA from the gel to the membrane is a critical step that can also affect the yield of RNA. It's possible that the transfer conditions (e.g., voltage, time, buffer composition) were not optimal. You could try adjusting the transfer conditions and see if that improves the yield of RNA.
In terms of the expected yield of RNA, it's difficult to provide a specific number as it can vary depending on the specific samples and experimental conditions. However, it's not uncommon to obtain yields in the range of a few nanograms to a few hundred nanograms of RNA from IP samples. Troubleshooting low RNA yield can be a challenging process, and it may take some trial and error to identify the specific issue and optimize your protocol. I would suggest experimenting with some of the variables mentioned above and also consulting with other researchers who have experience with the seCLIP methodology to see if they have any additional suggestions.
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-RNA seq and bioinformatics were carried out by professionals.
- Gene in question shows ~700 fold differential regulation by qPCR in multiple independent cohort of experiments - not in RNA seq.
Please advise....
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The large fold-change indicates that the gene is likely not expressed to a high level. Under control conditions the experession can be almost zero, and a slightly larger expression under treatment conditions will result in a very large fold-change.
Low-expressed genes give only low or no counts in RNA seq. It might be that genes with no or very few counts are filtered out from the analysis, because the counts are not reliable. If the gene is not at all detected under control conditions (0 counts in all control samples), it is not possible to calculate any (finite) fold-change at all.
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Hi ResearchGate friends, I have found some visible bands between 18s and 28s rRNA while running the formaldehyde-denaturing agarose gel on total RNA (please check the attached images). This is seen in my experiment group, not in the control group, though the total RNAs in the two groups are co-extracted using the same method.
Anyone can kindly give me a hint if they are precursors or fragments of rRNA? Thanks!
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Hi Matt Wu ! Yes, we did and saw the same thing. Please find attached the bioanalyzer results. The RIN is 8.7.
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RNA input without adding the anti-m6A antibody would be enough?
Thank you in advance,
Alexandre Magno Vicente
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Great question! Did it work? Or did you solve it, develop any protocol? Please share some advice.
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Since heparin inhibits reverse transcriptase, heparinase I treatments prior to qRT-PCRs are recommended. NGS also uses reverse transcriptase, so I was wondering whether anyone has tried doing a heparinase treatment of RNA samples prior to small RNA library preps? Is this a safe thing to do?
Thank you,
Clara
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Hi Annette, have you tried library preparation from heparin plasma? I am trying this now but unable to solve the problem.
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Using the pGEM-T easy vector, I want to choose the better RNA polymerase
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T7 can work very well in the different applications including in situ probe work.
My colleagues use the 9144 kits.
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I am interested in mRNAs only (also the ones from chloroplast).
RNA input x RNA yielded approximately?
Additional Kit used to concentrate RNAs + to get rid of other RNAs (tRNAs, etc...)?
Thank you in advance.
Alexandre Magno Vicente
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Hi Alexander,
you can try to perform either double mRNA pull down (after the first round of mRNA pull down just do another pull down with new beads' batch - for me Dynabeads from Thermofisher work really well) or you can try ribo-depletion using rRNA depletion/removal kit (e.g. NebNEXT one). I hope that will help you.
Kasia
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As the whole world is suffering with COVID19 infection; the research for vaccines are at its peak and so is the funding towards virology projects. Will it have a negative impact on funding in other research areas i.e. basic research in RNA biology, stem cells and cancer?
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I hope all government provide more support the research agencies and all researchers particularly health researches.
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I'm currently investigating a lncRNA and i'm very curious to see what the subcellular location is due to silencing strategy and prediction of lncRNA function. Could i somehow separate the nucleus from cytoplasm and isolate/qPCR to find out where expression is present?
I was looking at fractioning protocols, but these are mostly aimed at proteins, if at all possible, could you recommend me a protocol for RNA analysis?
Huge thanks in advance!
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Erik van Butselaar hi?did it work well for your cell?
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Hi all,
I try to figure out weather there is a change in my rRNA following treatment.
when I treat the cells (mouse cells) and isolated RNA, I see a major difference in RNA concentration, without any difference in cell number.
what is the best way (or easy for start) to see if there is any change in the ribosomal RNA amount, activity or biosensis?
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Shani
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Roughly 80% of the total RNA consists of rRNA and so if your treatment causes a decrease in total RNA, then it is highly likely to decrease rRNA synthesis. To a lesser extent, the decrease in RNA content could be due to RNA degradation perhaps via ribophagy. Decreases in rRNA synthesis can be seen easily enough. You can use fibrillarin staining to look at nucleolar size and decrease in nucleolar size constitutes a decrease in rRNA synthesis, as nucleoli are formed on the sites of rRNA synthesis - the rDNA. If you want to quantify the decrease, you can do so using quantitative real time PCR. You can generate primers against the External Transcribed Spacer (ETS) or the Internal Transcribed Spacer (ITS) of the 45s pre-rRNA. The ETS and ITS are spacers that are cleaved during rRNA biogenesis and are degraded subsequently, and therefore a decrease in pre-rRNA would be indicative of decreased rRNA synthesis. You can perform qRT-PCR and use your ETS and/or ITS primers to estimate decreases in rRNA biosynthesis.
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I have mRNA after in vitro transcription. Nanodrop shows conc of 4150 ng/ul, (measured at 10x dilution, 415ng/ul), but Qubit and Tapestation show 10 times lower concentrations. The gel from Tapestation shows very weak band. I do phenol chloroform purification after IVT which is suppossed to remove most of the free nucleotides. The A260/280 ratio is 2,05 and A260/230 ratio is 2,34. I have no idea where does this difference come from. I tried different Nanodrops and different Qubits...
Maybe you can help?
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This is an old question but for the sake of people searching for this answer, here is the reason:
Nanodrop is just a UV spec reading. It is only looking at absorbance at 260 nm. Plenty of things absorb at 260 nm other than the RNA you make in your IVT reaction. This includes the T7 protein, pyrophosphatase (if you use it), your DNA template, the NTP monomers, the abortives, truncates, and even salt. Your nandrop is giving a signal for ALL of these things.
Qubit is better. It gives a reading based upon an intercalator that is specific for RNA. This means that it will (likely) only give signal for your full length RNA, abortives (above a certain length), and truncates.
This explains the disparity between your nanodrop and Qubit readings. And btw, a reading of 4000 ng/uL on the nanodrop is too high to trust. 10 fold dilute that and try again.
Better than Qubit would be to actually purify your RNA (DNase followed by EtOH precip/dT/etc., ultrafilter, recover) and then run the final material on a gel or capillary electrophoresis or HPLC and then compare against a standard curve.
Pain in the ass, but it's the best way.
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Hye all, I need advice on RNA extraction. I extracted rats liver RNA using Qiagen RNA minikit, however the RNA concentrations for some samples were low (below 1000ng, total RNA needed is 1000ng). However the purity was within the range, 2 above. 
If i re extract, and the same results appear, what should i do?
Thanks for help. 
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The low product during RNA extraction is mainly related to two reasons. First, using low number of cells or less tissue in the extraction which subsequently results in a lower RNA product. This can be easily fixed through using more cells or tissue per reaction.
The second reason which is more frequent than the first one is the inefficient disruption of cell membrane which causes either by inefficient lysis buffer or poor mechanical disruption method. To overcome this, you need to first check the properties of you lysis buffer such as pH, conc., etc and also improve the mechanical way you use to grind the tissue such as longer grinding in liquid nitrogen or use tissue lyser. 
I would also suggest to use proteinase K (~200ug/ml) with your lysis buffer and increase the incubation time for about 3hrs at 50c. This would possibly helps to increase the RNA product without any effect on the gene expression profile.
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Hello all,
I ran native agarose gel electrophoresis to check the integrity of my RNA sample. However, I am a little bit confused with the result. I supposed to get only 2 bands, which are 28S and 18S band, but here I can see there are 4 different types of band in lane 2 and 5. Here I can identify that two of my samples were contaminated with genomic DNA (Lane 2 and 5). However, can someone told me what band that were highlighted in the red box below? Here I attach my result. Thank you in advance.
Lane 1: RNA ladder, Lane 2-5: RNA Sample
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I think third band is of RNA (28S) because  rather than running on denaturing agarose gel you have run the RNA sample on simple agarose and due to secondary in structures/different oonfirmation in RNA ,more than two band appear. hypothetically if you don't use denaturing agarose gel, more than two band of RNA can appear.
Best wishes
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To extract RNA from ips cells, I cultured the cells in 12-well plates ... but I read the concentration of RNA with Nano drops, which showed phenolic contamination. Can it be said that the amount of cells is low? Of course, I did the extraction with TRIzol kit (Invitrogen).
First question: How many colonies should be cultured in any well to extract RNA?
Second question: How can phenolic pollution be eliminated?
Thank you for your responses.
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Dear Dr. Maussion:
Thank you for your answer.
I used 400 ul of TRIzol for any well. According to In the instruction of kit , the value of one million cells should be used. It might be diminished cell mount.
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My problem is that i'm trying to precipitate RNA with a Ethanol RNA Precipitation protocol and the yield is bad (almost half of initial concentration and half 260/280 purity). My initial volume is 30 uL and 70 ng/ul of concentration approximately and the precipitation gives me worst concentration and purity than the initial one. Is there a minimum volume for RNA precipitation ? because i'm using the entire 30 uL for the precipitation protocol.
Thanks
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Your elution volume is probably too high. If your column is not so broad like in the case of Zymo kits, you can try a lesser volume of RNAse free water for a better yield. Also make sure you get rid of ethanol completely before eluting. However, you can also try magnetic bead methods.
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I extract RNA using Phenol and Chloroform.
The protocol is :
1. Homogenize the tissue in a water saturated Phenol (200 micro liter).
2. Add 300 more micro liter of phenol and an 500 micro liter of a buffer, vortex and centrifuge in max. speed, room temp, 10 min.
3. Move upper aqueous phase to a new tube and add 500  micro liter of Phenol, vortex and centrifuge in max. speed, room temp, 10 min. This step is repeated twice.
4. Move upper aqueous phase to a new tube and add 250 micro liter of phenol and 250 micro liter of chloroform with isoamyl. Vortex and centrifuge in max. speed, room temp, 10 min. This step is repeated 3 times.
5. Move upper aqueous phase to a new tube and add 500 micro liter of chloroform. Vortex and centrifuge in max. speed, room temp, 10 min.
Last time I made the extraction, my upper aqueous phase became smaller each time I used only Phenol.  Did someone experience something like that? Could it happen because the phenol was not enough water saturated? Or does anybody can think of other reasons for that?  I'm afraid my RNA got damaged. 
Please answer me,
Valeria
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Hi Valeria,
Phenol extraction of RNA is always my go to choice if there are problems with column based methods. If you do make your own water or buffer saturated phenol, you will find that to saturate the phenol takes about 10-15% of the aqueous phase. In my experience you will have a similar loss of RNA, particularly with RNA with a lot of secondary structure. I would also recommend a pre-made mix and if you are going to be using enzymes such as reverse transcriptase on the RNA, do at least two chloroform extractions as phenol can be very inhibitory to RT.
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I want to use two purification methods to isolate mRNA from eukaryotic cells. I am already using the Poly(A) selection kit.
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Hi! I am need to isolate mRNA from cells for MS analysis. I used Trizol/Chloroform RNA extraction and then one kit for poly(A) selection for the mRNA isolation but I am looking for other methods to have an mRNA as much pure as possible, without rRNA contamination, in good quantity (I want to avoid waste of material) and of course I would like to check the quality of mRNA before the analysis (Is Agarose gel enough? Is it better to perform also a Northern blot?). For my purpose the ribosomal RNA contamination is a big problem. How can I remove it without degraded the mRNA? Furthermore, I would like to know exactly the mRNA quantity before starting the MS analysis just to be sure to analyze an equal amount of mRNA from the different samples. Which is the best method? 
Thanks in advance for the answer.
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I am working with a RNA helicase protein. The unwinding activity has been proved by gel-separetion assay. now I want to do a fluorescence assay by fluorescence spectroscopy to determine unwinding activity in respect to time . can  sybr-green II  be used to determine the RNA unwinding activity ? I  want to know if sybr-green II  has a specific affinity for double stranded RNA or single stranded RNA. i would be grateful if anyone can send me a relevant link.
thanks in advance.
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From my knowledge, Syber Green II has affinity to ssDNA  while Syber Green I as affinity to dsDNA. It can stain RNA but with low affinity than DNA.
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I am checking the stability of an RNA in a complete RPMI media and further in a cell culture. I am setting different time points to measure stability from 1 minute to 1 hour. However I'm afraid that without stopping the reaction at 1 minute (and other similar short period time points), I won't be able to measure actual stability w.r.t time while setting up RT-PCR. Any suggestions?
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Thank you very much for the responses, much appreciated.
Thank you Dr. Ernst for the intersting article. I want to see that for how long my RNA is stable in the media and then in vivo such that it does not degrade during transfection process. Further to my concern, I'm now using a buffering solution with chaotropic salts to inhibit any enzyme activity on the RNA. I hope it works!!
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Dear,
I am working with a slow growing bacteria.
I need to harvest 10 ml at the low OD and approximately 5ml at high OD for RNA isolation and transcriptomics. 
I saw that most people use RNA protect from Qiagen, but in my case the volume is too big for all my samples. 
My questions are: 
1. RNAlater should be added after spinning the culture, 5-10 volume of the pellet?  right
2. Can RNAlater be used for bacterial culture? I saw that mostly used with tissues
3. Does the transcription patter change in these 5 min of centrifugation prior to the addition of the RNAlate?
Best,
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Hi Miriam,
We use RNALater for our bacterial culture and keep them on the bench for up to 1 day or at 4*C for 1 week and extract RNA with high yields and good downstream applications. We usually harvest 3-5 mL of bacterial culture and centrifuge at high speed for 2 m, then resuspend in 750 ul RNALater (this process may depend on your bacteria?). When we are ready to extract the RNA, I add my lysis buffer directly to the RNALater + bacteria mixture. I have not noticed any transcriptional change by doing it this way. Hope this helps!
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Hi,
we are trying to isolate DNA-free RNA from neural stem cell for RNA sequencing but our RNA is DNA contaminated even digesting twice with DNae. Could you suggest some kit or method which really worked for you to get DNA-free RNA for RNA sequencing?
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How are you testing DNA contmaination? With wich buffer are you incubating your sample with DNase? Have you tested it against some DNA to see how it stands? You could alternatively buy a RNA isolation kit, like Direct Zol from Zymo. It comes with a Dnase.
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I attempted to reconstitute siRNA. I made the mistake of using autoclaved water instead of the recommended buffer. The siRNA in question has not been tested in the past, so there is no direct method to determine if the siRNA worked.
From your experience, would..
A) The Rnase be denatured from the autoclave?
B) The pH of autoclaved water at room temperature be relatively stable for siRNA?
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Mandeep gill has rightly suggested.
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I'm using the Ambion RNAqueous Micro Kit to extract RNA from cells in different pathways. I use laser capture microdissection to extract the cells. From one pathway, I normally collect 8-50 cells. From the other, 140-300 cells. I elute with the same amount of liquid for every extraction. 
After extracting RNA, I check the concentrations on the NanoDrop One. For whatever reason, I get similar concentrations from both extractions (5-13ng/ul). 
Today, I had concentrations of 11.3 ng/ul of RNA from 8 cells and 9.3 ng/ul from 144 cells. 
If anybody has an idea or explanation of why this could happen I'd be very appreciative. 
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That will depend on your application. If you're doing any NGS application you should use a Qubit that's what most genomics core facilities do before they run samples to make sure samples are accurately concentrated. If doing qPCR it matters slightly less but at the low RNA concentration you're working with Qubit is generally better. I wouldn't pay much attention to what thermofisher or any company claims in a manual regarding limit of detection/quantification as this is almost always exaggerated. 
Also, you probably know this but you can get an idea of the purity of the 9ng/µL you got with the absorbance ratios http://www.nanodrop.com/Library/T042-NanoDrop-Spectrophotometers-Nucleic-Acid-Purity-Ratios.pdf 
Again, all depends on what you're doing. If you're cloning or something none of this really matters, if doing NGS library prep it is very important to get the concentration right. 
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I have been trying to amplify one lncRNA not very well annotated (has two transcript variants in ensemble and one in NCBI. All there overlap and one has intron as per ensemble). Ct value for lncRNA is around 30 to 35 depending on cell line (comparatively 18s gets Ct value in same sample around 18). My RACE cDNA is fine as I see control beta actin 5 or 3 RACE is working just fine. I am using Clonetech's Smarter RACE kit. Any inputs will be helpful.
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The tissue abundance is a critical issue; I had these high Cts for a certain cell type. When I checked on UCSC and tried another tissue where it was seeming highly expressed I got a super thick band on my gel.
So,you might need to do a tissue panel and then to do the RACE where it is indeed expressed - otherwise it is always hard with low abundance templates. Of course, they are not always expressed in the same manner across all tissues. So tissue specific expression should also be kept in mind.  Had satisfying results with both Invitrogen & Takara.
All the best.
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I received a RNA sample from overseas customer for NGS sequencing purpose.  He mixed his RNA sample, prepared from extraction kit, with absolute alcohol and sent it to us in dry ice to prevent RNA degradation.  
We were then precipitated the RNA and re-purified using sodium acetate.  After purification, the readings from nanodrop looked good, ie both 260/280 and 260/230 are within optimal range >2.  But, the RIN number was poor (=2.5).  The customer claimed that the RIN number was good when he measured it.  I was wondering what could be the cause and how could we improve it.  
1)Will the precipitation and purification degrade the RNA?
2)Will the use of DEPC-treated sodium acetate and ethanol be helpful in this matter? 
3)Any good suggestion to the customer on RNA extraction and delivery?
Thank you in advance for your advice.
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Dear Edward, say to your customer that they send a new sample without any extraction using with RNA later solution. I think this way will be better and confidental for you and them. In other confidental way for transporting RNA is working with lyophilised sample. If they have this possibility they can send you lyophilised sample. 
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I would really appreciate your help or advice. I have struggled to get good quality RNA from colon biopsies - RIN averaging 2 on the Tapestation. I have tried many methods / variations with no luck:
1) Biopsies that I have collected from colonoscopy are immediately (within 1 minute) placed in:
a) autoclaved PCR eppendorphs that contain 1ml of RNAlater (from Sigma) - which I have either left at room temperature for 24 hrs before freezing it at -80, or immediately placed in liquid nitrogen then transferred to -80 or processed immediately. 
b) cryovial and immediately placed in liquid nitrogen. 
c) placed in RLT buffer and placed in liquid nitrogen I have tried
2) Different kits:
a) Powermicrobiome RNA kit by Mobio
b) RNeasy Minikit
3) Different RNA extraction benches and RNAse free waters for elution!
4) Processed the same day or 24 hours later - thawed on ice if -80C
5) Extraction done on ice and at room temperature
As soon as I extract the RNA, I place it on ice and either quantify it and run it on the tapestation the same day or place it in a -80 freezer till day of analysis (thawed on ice). I am not sure where I am going wrong and I would be grateful if you could tell me if there is a protocol that works or if I am missing a trick!
Thanks.
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Thank you Nathan. I'll have a go with Trizol. 
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I have recently sequenced a few samples of interest. I am new to RNA-seq data analysis, and I am looking for some help with a (perhaps) naive question:
In the file attached, I am showing a screenshot of a display of the Sox2 gene. In 6 of the 9 coverage tracks, the signal is higher for the 5'- and 3'-flanking regions than in the coding region itself, which seemed odd to me. If there is signal at the 5'- and 3'-flanking regions, I would expect the coding region to have similar (or higher) signal intensity, correct? 
Could this be an artifact of data analysis or could this be something biologically relevant?
[Note: Sox2 is itself an intronless gene, i.e., only 1 exon, and it is encoded in the intron of the long non-coding RNA Sox2ot.]
Again, I am new to RNA-seq and looking at data such as this, so perhaps this is a naive question! Any help and guidance is very much appreciated!!
Thank you very much. :)
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To my impression, I think not many reads are mapped to Sox2 gene from your RNA-seq reads. This might cause bias  by insufficient coverage of that gene. From the figure you posted, some part are not well covered. In this case, quantification of the gene by the reads may not be accurate. I would suggest using qRT-PCR targeting different part of the transcript 5' or 3' using your samples (if you still have) to see if the bias is till there. This might complement RNA-seq. If you want to test whether the RNA-seq works well. You may also choose some more abundantly expressed genes, which might have higher coverage by sequencing reads.
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I have to perform Next Gen seq so concentration and RIN are the prime requisites. 
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You can try using Invitrogen plant Concert RNA reagent . It work on banana which contain very high level of phenolics.
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Hi everyone,
If you can help, i need to know if  chemotherapy can affect RNA quality and quantity after its extraction from tissues?
Thanks in advance.
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Any process that produces apoptosis will affect RNA one way or another,because during apoptosis more than 500 enzymes are in charge of proteolysis of cell components and also of Ribo and Deoxy  ribonucleic proteín..
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I will be on the field soon (in Madagascar), and will need to collect RNA to get a transcriptome. Of course, I won't have access to liquid nitrogen. Thanks for your answers and advises
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you can use RNAlater Solution
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I ran some Platynereis dumerilii total RNA on Bioanalyzer RNA nano chip, for performing RNAseq downstream. When a sequencing facility manager saw my results (attached) she told me my RNA looks degraded, but when I showed the same results to my lab colleges they said it's normal for this species. My questions are, if any of you have direct experience with P. dumerilii or maybe some other annelids, did you have the same experience? What causes this difference in RNA profiles?
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Does the large rRNA in this species (26S) have an internal nick or spacer, so that it migrates like 18S rRNA? If so, it may not be degraded, much.
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Upon using the TruSeq Stranded mRNA LT kit for RNA-Seq sample preparation I obtain the following Bioanalyzer traces using a Agilent DNA 100 Series II kit.
What is the additional trailing peak near the upper marker? Will it hamper sequencing?
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Hi everybody, sorry for my delay, and when asking for the Bioanalyzer image I actually meant the trace – I have seen only now that you have already posted the PDF in the first question.
I agree with Matthew that the library should be of sufficient quality for sequencing, and that 4µg is quite a lot. We usually use 1 µg of high-quality RNA (i.e. directly extracted from cells/tissue). Furthermore, we have recently begun to use only 60% of a reaction to save money, and can still amplify with only 8 PCR cycles.
Tushar, how many PCR cycles did you apply?
To end with the SPRI – Ampure XP are actually SPRI beads, so there are lots of size selections within the Truseq protocols, which is based on the ratio of beads to reaction volume. You might have noticed, that this ratio is different after the ligation step (in order to remove adapter dimers). See also http://core-genomics.blogspot.de/2012/04/how-do-spri-beads-work.html
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I've extracted RNA from plant tissues, and want to store it at -20 degree. Is it possible?
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Of course you can but better if you add 70% alcohol, sample will be safe for long time.
Best
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What stabilises these RNAs?
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Dear Jatin Sharma
One reasons of the capping, protection of mRNA from attack of 5' exonuclease enzymes. Because, remove only one nucleotide from mRNA, produce inefficient protein. Therefore, preservation of mRNA sequence in tranlation is very important. In comparision with mRNA, tRNA and rRNA sequences are not important.
Best, Roshdi
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I have isolated total RNA from a yeast by using a kit, but the concentration is not very high. How can I concentrate my existing RNA samples?
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You can use vacuum concentrator at a tempreture of 30 degree celcius for 15min. Place the RNA on ice for 10- 20 min and then return it back to the concentrator for another 15 min. The concentration should substantially increase.
Alternatively, you can preheat the elution buffer at 50-55 degree for like 20 min and immediately use it to elute your RNA. Normally this practice gives me better RNA yeild.
Hope this helps
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Hello, I was wondering if any of you have any experience with injecting large mRNA strands into zebrafish yolk or 1-cell stage. I am unsure that due to the large molecular weight the mRNA can migrate from the yolk to the cell.
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To get best result, it has to be injected in to the cell.
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Dear Researchers,
Its well known that miRs after their complete biogenesis are released into the cytoplasm and they involve in different functions. I do have read from literature that certain miR family members interact among themselves. Do they interact with other miRs after or before they are completely processed by their respective biogenesis? And how can this be evaluated?
I would be glad to get some help from you on the above question. 
Thanks in advance.
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From the publications you sent me:
talks about co-regulated miRNAs, which probably means that there is another factor (e.g. transcription factor) that regulates groups of them in the same way.
indeed uses the wording "Interacting miRNAs" but they do that in the sense of network relation, not physical biological interactions. From your question it sounded like you were interested in the latter.
I do not know about any evidence for direct interaction between mature miRNAs coming from different loci. I can imagine that a miRNA could negatively regulate the host transcript for another miRNA and result in there expression level being reverse correlated. With the positive correlation between miRNAs you should most likely assume a third actor's fault - e.g. transcription factor.
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I am measuring levels on mirco RNAs in a murine myoblast cell line. So, I collected the cells and processed them for small RNA extraction using MirVana Kit. Upon estimating the concentration and purity (260/280) using the nanodrop machine, I received a negative concentration value for most samples with poor purity.
I was supposed to go ahead with making cDNA and running it through qPCR to analyse the levels. I have two questions - 
1. What could have gone wrong? This is the first time I am receiving such values.
2. Is it worth going ahead with cDNA and qPCR?
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hi saurabh,
I don`t  know any answer about your question.but I have a question .Taqman MicroRNA assay is used in your research .I want to use applied biosystems products .Unfortunately, I have just a few information about them. Could you give me some information about assay ID (382)?Is this assay ID consist of primers and taqman prob(for real time) except of stem loop primer for RT?Thanks.
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Hey All,
So the goal of my latest set of experiments is to successfully extract great quality RNA from 1x10^6 cells (monocytes (THP-1) and macrophages(BAL washing's) using TRIzol Reagent for downstream qPCR.
I've struggled to get a concentration greater than 180ng/ul RNA eluted in 25ul.
Worse, more often than not I'm observing concentrations in the range of 60-70 ng/ul in 25ul which decreases a lot after DNase treatment (1/3 sometimes).
The protocol I have been using is as follows;
1) Remove media, wash cells and add 500ul TRIzol
2) Incubate for 5min at RT on 24 well plate, and then remove to new 1.5ml epi. I generally store down at -80C at this point and thaw on ice later.
3) After thawing sample, I then add 100ul fresh chloroform and shake hard by hand for 12-15 secs and  incubate at RT for 3min
4) Spin 12000g 15min at 4C
5) Remove +-220ul aqueous phase to a new tube
6) Add 250ul 100% 2-propanol (generally use it at -20C)
7) Incubate samples for +-20 hours at -20C
8) Spin 12000g 20min at 4C, and discard supernatant
9) Add 500ul of 75% ethanol (RT), flick tube washing the sides
10) Spin 7500g 5min at 4C, discard supernatant
11) **Second ethanol wash (100%) - to improve A260/A280 ratio
12) Repeat step 10
13) Carefully remove supernatant
14) Air dry for 10min, or till pellet is dry
15) Elute in 25ul DEPC H20
16) Nanodrop
17)DNase Treat and nanodrop once more.
18) RNA stored at -80C
All reagents are made up fresh, or in DEPC water. Generally A260/A280 ratios range from 1.80-2.05.
Does the temperature of the reagents (other than TRIzol) matter?
Should I be adding any other steps which have helped you?
It seems a longer 2-propanol precipitation step at -20C is common (rather than the 10min precipitation at RT), but does this really make a difference?
In terms of disposables, I use new RNase free filtered tips  and I've been wiping down all surfaces and pipettes with 10% bleach (NaOCl).
Thanks in advance!
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I'd be interested to see what your 230/260 ratios are, since in my experience cold isopropanol brings down an awful lot of guanidium salts (which TRIzol contains). I always use isoprop at room temperature, where it successfully precipitates RNA without salt co-precipitation, and reserve ice-cold/-20/-80 conditions for ethanol precipitations.
I also wouldn't bother DNAse treating, frankly, though a lot depends on your downstream plans for this RNA. 
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I got unexpceted cDNA nanodrop readings( 400ng/ul, ssDNA, A260/280 near to 1.8) either from the control Hela RNA or from personal samples when using the SuperScript III RT-PCR system? Can anyone help to explain it? Thank you very much
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Hi Jack M Gallup,
Thank for your reply. i should be aware of this matter in future works.  
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I am looking for a commercial RNA control, which has the known RNA sequence and RNA concentration. I find some of them on line, but they make me really confused. They seems like RNA from a certain disease. what I am looking is "general" RNA, maybe like rat RNA. 
I am wondering is there anyone knows one? I'd like to use it as the positive control for the gel and also qPCR.
Thanks.
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The disease state of the RNA sample may not effect you analyses depending on which genes you are looking to use as a control. IF you are doing human work you could order extract from a cancer line already isolated for you and quantified. There are also some qPCR kits that have their own control standards included. Or you can order tissue and extract your own. There are studied transcripts typically used for controls that are well quantified in different tissues, like B-actin.
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I have attempted Trizol RNA extraction from polysome fractions using HCT-116 cells. The 260/280 ratios for all of my samples are between 1.6 and 1.8 (when I quantified RNA on the nano drop) and the RNA concentration ranges between .74 ng/uL to 137 ng/uL in my samples.
I made a 1% agarose gel and ran my samples (first 200 ng) on this gel at 100V for 40 minutes with 3 uL of EtBr (added to the gel itself). Only the ladder showed up when I imaged.
Next I tried loading more about 800 ng of RNA total concentration with 6X loading dye and DEPC water and again only my ladder is showing up.
I would like to do PCR with these samples but I want to see the integrity of my RNA. Anyone have experience with this? Or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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By the way, forgot one more point, when running a regular TAE gel to check you RNA (so not the usual denaturing gel with formaldehyde and MOPS), it's more convenient to use a 1.5% agarose gel, it keeps the bands more compact and you see better the RNA. And run it short (2-2.5 cm will suffice) and fast (it's single-stranded, although folded, so it will run fine). 200-500 ng are more than enough.
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According to RNA world hypothesis, it came 1st in evolutionary process. Then, why a protein, which degrades RNA is more stable than any other protein? What could be its significance in evolutionary process?
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That is precisely it – the omnipresence of RNase on skin and finger prints and on flakes of dust from head and dermis, in sweat, on water droplets from the mouth and nose, etc., hence the need to take barrier precautions.  Essentially to preserve RNA integrity one needs to extract RNA from cells and tissues in the presence of chaotropic denaturing agents – classically phenol and guanidinium thiocyanate – and then to physically separate the RNA from the denatured proteins including RNases that would re-nature on dilution of the denaturing agents.  This was classically achieved by ultracentrifugation through a dense layer of Caesium Chloride, leaving proteins floating above and a 'contact lens' of purified RNA at bottom of the tube. but now much more easily achieved using commercial column-based kits.  Of course, having obtained purified RNA one then needs to avoid reintroducing RNase-bearing contamination, hence the barrier method approach and the use of sterile glassware baked at greater than 160oC to carbonise any existing protein and RNase free-plasticware achieved by a combination of high temperature at which the plastic is moulded and gamma irradiation and not subsequent contaminating the plasticware with sticky fingers!
 As Dr Shapiro says, RNases are proteins, which are not especially stable in the sense that they can be denatured by heat, alkali, chemical modification, etc., but are extremely resilient in terms of their ability to self-assemble (and reassemble following denaturation), actually a property of all proteins in collaboration with the cellular machinery to eliminate incorrectly folded molecules, but enhanced for RNases by the small number of disulphide bonds and thus the smaller member of crosslinks to go wrong.
 Dr Shapiro cautions that RNA may not have come first in the evolutionary process and we certainly need to know much more about molecular evolution to be able to describe an accurate ontogeny.  However, it is clear that if one heats a 'soup' of simple carbon and nitrogen-based chemicals, ribonucleotides will emerge, some of which will polymerise randomly to form short RNA molecules which possess catalytic activity – the original ribozymes – and can promote the assembly or degradation or RNA or amino acids also present in the mix.  You should not overlook that 18S and 28S RNA remain at the core of ribosome protein synthetic machinery today.  At some point, the evolutionary pressure to preserve the 'good experiments' of nature emerging from this soup would have exploited the information coding and transfer capacity of certain RNA molecule combinations 'coding' RNA and 'transfer' RNAs.  However, at some point the information coding role passed to DNA, a double stranded molecule allowing recombination of information and thus the emergence of sexual reproduction.  Meanwhile the chemical stability of RNA leading to the coding signal being 'on' all the time would have been a barrier to the emergence of 'regulation', the answer being to rapidly degrade RNA through enzymatic means to 'turn it off'.  I could go on, but as you begin to appreciate there are books to be written about this and indeed many that have already been written that you should seek out yourself to read.  However, you should not lose sight of the basic facts of RNA, a chemically stable molecule than can be extremely rapidly degraded by enzymes that follow all the rules of protein chemistry but are highly resilient because of the way that they have evolved.
 Hope that helps and I look forward to Dr Shapiro adding his take on the story!
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My post-doc asked me to search how much RNA are needed to synthesis cDNA for cloning purposes. He mentioned there are 15+ reactions in the cloning processes and each requires a specific amount of cDNA, and therefore there are a specific amount of RNA needed to synthesize cDNA.
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I agree with Saurav the kit can be used for 1pg-1ug total RNA template range to synthesize cDNA. If in pictograms, use ABI pre-amplification kit before PCR; in ng and ug, you do not need pre-amplification before PCR. Check out this paper.
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Hello,
I would like to compile a citation reference list covering human RNA-Seq needs for researchers. I am wondering if anyone has already compiled a "guide line" list for the sequencing depth needed for 80% or 90% coverage with RNA Seq for samples of various sources, say FFPE tissue as compared to fresh, or highly expressed sequences as compared to low mRNAs from human or mammals etc.?  I realize that it is a big ask but if anyone has some guidance we could work together and share information and the citations..thank you .Sincerely Lyndon
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HI Abid,
Yes I am currently collecting references of articles and making a big list and then I try figure out some guidelines. I was just hoping that active researchers in the field might already have some key references available that I could look at. Everyone today speaks of various depths in generalities but finding true papers for human for specific messages types is more difficult but I am making progress. Thank you for taking time to respond to my questions and I wish you all the best in your research.
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Hi all,
I've been having an issue with my bioanalyser runs. It appears that the ladder does not resolve properly, giving weird electropherograms. But surprisingly, the ladder for the DNA assays manages to resolve clearly.
I have already sonicated the pin and prepared a fresh batch of RNA ladders but the results still remain weird.
Any advice out there?
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The RNA Pico assay is very unstable. Any kind of RNAse contamination, chemical contamination, humidity on the backside of the electrode holder, change in salt concentration (1xTE as RNA dissolvent can be already too high salt concentration) can mess up the assay.
If the samples in the same run look okay, you will probably have to replace your ladder.
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Hello everyone. 
In order to perform RNA-Seq, we are extracting RNA from plant, shoot (leaves) and roots, and obtained the following profiles after Bioanalyzer analysis (see attached image; do not pay any attention to the identification of 16S and 23S).
Roots samples shown the typical profile, with 2 clear picks for 18S and 28S. In the other hand, shoots samples shown a more complex profile, with a lot of other additional picks. As far as I investigated, this is normal for mature leave tissue.
I'm been longtime working with prokaryotes and do not know much about plants. Can anyone please help me to understand what are the different types of RNA present in shoots samples? 
Thank you in advance
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Dear David,
Concerning the images, I don't understand why you had problems to view them, as the only thing you have to do is click on them and a high-resolution full screen image is popping-up. I just tried and it worked perfectly. There must be some issue with your computer.
Concerning you answer, yes, I avoid I forgot everything about green plants, and that's why I asked this question. Thank you very much for your answer, it makes now complete sense to what we observed, so the additional peaks at a position similar to those of prokaryote rRNAs must be the ones corresponding to leaves organelles, chloroplasts and/or plastids.
Thank you
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how primitive self replicating RNA molecules could have made transition into modern cellular systems  that rely heavily on a variety of proteins to process genetic information?
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Thank you so much
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We would like to make RNA-seq libraries from Drosophila RNA. It is important that we deplete rRNA rather than enrich for Poly(A) as we would like to analyse some non-polyadenylated species in our datasets.
I have read that the Illumina Ribo-Zero rRNA depletion kit (Human, Mouse, Rat) is reasonably effective, although does not fully remove 5S or 28S (right arm) rRNA.
I'm also thinking about an rRNA "RT blocking" rather than "depletion" strategy a la the method presented in the attached paper, although I would have to devise a strategy for removing all types of rRNA (not just 2S).
Has anyone had experience with this, and would you please share some wisdom? What sort of parameters would I have to be careful to consider using these approaches? Do you have alternative suggestions?
As an aside, these RNA-seq libraries are likely to be from low-input RNA, and the quality could be less-than-perfect as we are isolating RNA after formaldehyde fixation.
Thank you in advance for your intelligent answers.
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Hi all,
Apologies for the radio silence!
It turns out that the homebrew biotinylated probe depletion works a treat (with some caveats).
The steps:
1) Design PCR primers to amplify rDNA genes from genomic DNA. You want to cover basically the whole RNA sequence. For longer species - 18S and 28S (L/R) - we amplified two halves of each gene (so, two probes for 18S and a total of four probes for 28S)
2) In vitro transcribe your rDNA PCR products by incorporating Biotin-UTP into the mix. There are plenty of different ways to do this - choose your favourite
3) Quantify your RNA probe concentration using Qubit and pool your probes so that there is at least a 5x excess of probe:RNA (this requires optimisation, sorry)
4) Hybridise your probe mix to RNA sample, followed by incubation with strepavidin-coated magnetic beads.
5) Keep supernatant! This is your rRNA-depleted sample.
Each step requires optimisation. I found that the IVT (despite being quite a routine procedure) was quite temperamental. You can assess depletion using qPCR against rRNA species - I find this is much more quantitative and informative than Bioanalyzer analysis.
NOTE: you may have to tinker with the probe pooling concentrations. I found that if I add too much excess that the beads don't completely remove the probe and then when you do the qPCR it looks like the rRNA levels have actually increased!
CAVEAT: I had success removing all species but 5S. This is the same as Ribo-Zero. Not something I would lose sleep over as 5S is smaller than most library prep size cutoffs (usually 200nt+). Maybe you will have more success?
However, after all of this, I have all-but-abandoned this protocol for RNA-Seq. We are currently using a kit from NuGen (Ovation RNA-Seq System for Drosophila - http://www.nugen.com/products/ngs/ovation-rna-seq-systems-1-16-model-organisms) that is VERY reasonably priced per reaction and has a nice "rRNA exclusion" step where - rather than depleting - it excludes unwanted RNAs from PCR amplification in the final step. It's very nice, and in our first samples we saw between 1.5-5% rRNA in our final sequencing libraries. Plus, you can customise it to exclude other contaminating RNAs.
If anyone has questions, feel free to shoot me an email at alexandra.mccorkindale@mdc-berlin.de
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Does anyone know a kit for northern blot? I am interested in detecting gene expression from soybean root but they seem to be poorly expressed. Any suggestions?
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Have Sen buy you a plane ticket to come out to visit me in Albany and we can use the ddPCR to make the measurements! :-)
Ok, seriously, I would use Trizol, and use phase-lock gel (heavy) to sequester the organic phase away from the RNA when you phase separate to get a nice clean extraction. Then you should have very nice RNA for any downstream use.
But really, design HEX labeled probes for your gene of interest (keep your product size to around 120 bp if possible, and check it in mFold for nasty structures; I have a reference that is FAM labeled), then fly over here and we run the reactions.
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Dear fellow researchers,
I am working on rat brain tissues. I need to extract RNA from here. The recommended RNA concentration is >150ng/ul (reading from Qubit). I am using Qiagen products and strictly adhere to their methods.
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Let's get this straight. Pure RNA has an A260/A280 of 2.1. You will see in many protocols that a value of 1.8-2.0 indicates that the RNA is pure. As Robert rightly said, low A260/A230 is solvent contamination and most of the time does not affect downstream applications. It also correlates with quantity so you will find that the more RNA you have then higher this value will be.  
I would stick with Qiagen's columns rather than mess around with the old school Trizol and Chloroform.
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We have done a disease model mouse experiment, for which there were two treatments, let's call them A and B, yes/no. So we have 4 strata, and we have 9+/-1 samples per strata. We aim to look genomewide for differential gene RNA expression, across treatments, in one tissue. We plan to run 12 lanes CORRECTION 1 LANE of sequencing. So we will pool our samples into 12 pools, 3 pools for each of the 4 strata. We know 3 is the bare minimum but can't afford more. Have you any advice or references etc on how to pool the samples? We also have some spike in. I know next to nothing about this subject. Thanks very much in advance.
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Simultaneous generation of many RNA-seq libraries in a single reaction.
This is the best way to pool many libraries. We did similar experiment, where we measured differential gene expression in 14 different mouse tissues using single library prep reaction.
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Cryoslices were made of heart tissue and stained with hematoxylin. RNA was isolated with a RNeasy Plus Micro Kit from Qiagen. 
Lysis buffer from the kit is pipetted onto cryoslices, incubated for 1 min and taken up into a tube for further isolation using the kit. 
The yield was low and therefore the OD 280/260 ratio low. Probably I could improve the lysing step, as heart tissue is quite firm and hard to lyse. Any idea how I could do this?
Another protocol (without a kit) would not work, I really need to use a kit, as the amount of material is very small. So only additional steps to the kit are useful. 
Looking forward to hear some suggestions! 
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Hi Anna,
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
1. Yes, I am aware that RNeasy loses all RNAs < 200 nt. 
2. with lysis buffer I mean RLT indeed
3. I like your suggestion. I can maybe try to take off the slices and put them into the tube and homogenize it with beats. 
Many thanks!
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I did a nano RNA chip to check the RNA integrity. All eight samples have a clear peak at 18S, but almost none at 28S. What does this mean? If they are degraded, there should be no obvious peak at all at both sites, right? I'm confusing and don't know what it means. I would really appreciate it if anyone can give me some idea. 
The figure is attached. Thank you!
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It depends on the organism you study and if you have denature your samples at 70°C during 2min before doing the RNA chip.
For example, if you work with RNA which are coming from some insects, the 28S pic disappear after denaturation... Even if they are eukaryotic organisms, the profiles of yeast will be different of mammalian cells, plants, insects...
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I tried some methods but getting low concentration and bad 280/260 and 230/260 ratios.
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Hello,
You must have tried some Trizol based methods, it might be better to try doing it the old CTAB way which works for recalcitrant varieties, here is one protocol which might help.
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Is it prudent to use an RNA sample which has no RIN number, when analyzed using a Bio-analyzer (Agilent).
The profile shows a good 18S peak. However, the 28S peak is very small.(probably the reason for the absence of the RIN number) 
I am attaching the picture of the profile herewith.
Can someone please look at it and tell me if it would be worthwhile pursuing this sample for hybridization for microarray?
Even if the microarray can be done and is ok, how much reproducible the data would be?
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Do you have only one single sample? Then you can't say much in any case.
If you have other samples: if all profiles look like this, then they will be comparable, so you can calculate valid expression changes between conditions.
If this sample looks typical for one group but the profiles of the other group look different, then you can not sensibly compare the groups.
If this is the only "strange" sample and there are enough other "good" samples, then you can either skip this one (without loosing too much information) or hybridize it and see if the expression profile matches that of the other samples (if not: discard it).
If there are not enough other "good" samples that you must decide on the neccesity: if the samle is utmost precious then I woul use it anyway. If it is relatively simple to get another sample (hoping that it will be better) then I would go for that option.
You won't get information about the reproducibility. I don't know any study that analyzed this. If you have a bunch of samples you can estimate the reproducibility yourself (the confidence intervals [CIs] give you an estimate of the variability). When the sample is behaving strange then the CIs will be wider (but this effect will decrease with increasing sample size). Eventually you must decide if the obtained presicion is good enough for your purpose.
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Hi,
I have some dry RNA oligos (fluorescent labeled) and was wondering which buffer to dissolve them in to make sure that they aren't degraded by RNases? I was planing to use a buffer of Tris pH 8 50mM, KCl 60mM with 0.1mM EDTA (low concentration to make sure that it doesn't interfere with subsequent protein assays) which I have autoclaved twice plus filtered through a 20um filter, but as I have understood it this does not ensure that the Rnase is removed? My other option is to use bought Rnase/Dnase free water, which I know wont contain any RNases, but then I'm worried that the solution might be to acidic for the fluorescent label?
Which one should I use? 
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Ok I'll do that.
Thanks for the answers!
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I want to detect some cancer bio-marker in human bile fluid. Just want to know that if anybody has any experience in RNA extraction from bile fluid.
Many thanks
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Hi,
I do not have experience in extracting RNA from human bile, but I found an article that describes a method for it ("Real-Time PCR-Based Analysis of the Human Bile MicroRNAome Identifies miR-9 as a Potential Diagnostic Biomarker for Biliary Tract Cancer", by Shigehara et al). The authors used phenol-chloroform-isoamyl alcohol and ethanol precipitation combined with a commercially available RNA extraction kit.
Hope this helps.
Kindest regards
Veronica
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Trying to choose shRNA construct for PRLr and I cannot find how to pick the proper one
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Firstly, choose multiple shRNAs (at least two) so as to provide specificity to your resultant effects due to knockdown of your target gene. If the target sequence is used before in any other paper, choose that one. If not, then choose three constructs and see the knockdown efficiency. Do check the effect on any non specific protein
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I need concentrations and final volume.
thanks!
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Called the Promega tech support for you. Since RQ1 DNase concentration is too low, 5 ul of RQ1 is not the same as 5 ul DNase I in SV kit.  They do not recommend you to substitue.  Sorry for the bad news.  Of course, they would not tell me the concentration of DNase I in SV kit.
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Hi Shekhu Ansari
              Initially i also get this kind of band due to protein contamination. After that i standardize to minimize the degradation of RNA. Try to use DEPC treated water for your experiment run in to formaldehyde agarose gel electrophoresis
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Hi Wisam,
it is not necessary to buy a product called "DNase removal kit", in most cases the enzyme and buffer is much cheaper if it is not called kit. We are using the DnaseI from ThermoScientific which works fine if the fundamental points of handling DnaseI are followed. Always keep in mind that DNaseI is very instable, so never mix by vortexing but only by slowly pipetting up and down once you added the enzyme. Be careful with storage conditions etc.. I always follow the manufacturers protocol which really works fine in my hands checking by qPCR.
Good luck! 
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I keen to know research regarding miRNA cross-talk in any disease specially in cancer and tuberculosis, if anyone had done this work or have research articles in this topic then kindly provide me. Thanks.
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The
tuberculosis drug streptomycin as a potential cancer therapeutic: inhibition of
miR-21 function by directly targeting its precursor. miR-21 is known as an onco-miR
Sometimes the targets for one miR (like an onco-miR), have roles in other pathological condition. I suggest to focus on targets more. 
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What are things to consider when handling RNA samples to avoid degradation? And how tricky RNA isolation is as compare to DNA isolation?
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In my opinion (and years of experience) the RNA instability scare is greatly over-exaggerated. It is quite stable unless you do silly things like speak or breathe heavily over open tubes or stick your finger in there (not so crazy as it sounds: it's when you take tubes from a previously opened bag - chances are, someone's fingers have been there!). Just use gloves, freshly made miliQ water, and aerosol-barrier tips and you'll be fine. Just saying.
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Hi, 
I am using the MEGAshortscript kit from Ambion to synthesise my gRNAs. However, I was wondering if it is necessary to purify them for transfecting into cells. If you don't what could happen? 
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Hi,
In vitro trasncription may generate truncated sequences (affecting the 3' end notably, so the tracRNA). Despite it was shown that truncated gRNA 17-18nt help the on-target (Fu et al 2014), uncontrolled truncated version would lead to more off-target or just non-fonctional sequence. Thus PAGE (and I would add HPLC) purification is the top purification to avoid any risk. Nevertheless, a silica membrane based purification is commonly used and become a real standard. It far is cheaper. And today it has not yet proper tested if PAGE purification actually improve on-target and if on-column purifaction increase the occurence of off-target events.
The case of CAS9 mRNA is a little bit different. The optimal quantity of efficient CAS9 protein seems a key (and the right moment too). So, we should avoid to put too much CAS9 and that is why CAS9 mRNA is preferable to expressing vector. Limited amount of truncated version of CAS9 mRNA would just affect a little bit our estimation of the proper CAS9 mRNA. Thus in silical membrane purification is fair well. Still, I would recommend optimisation of the CAS9 mRNA for the traduction in Mammalian.
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I have to add a question, I bought RNAs from a company, they said Grade: purified by i.e.-HPLC; lithium salt form. What does it mean? Do I have to desalt the sample?
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DNA is negatively charged, and requires a counterion. Generally, this is sodium, but lithium is sometimes used as it has several advantages: It is slightly antimicrobial, and prevents nucleic acid degradation during freeze thaw. You should be able to use this safely in enzymatic reactions, as I suspect the concentration of lithium would be quite low.
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Will Hoechst 33342 binds and stains siRNA (double stranded RNA)?
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No, Hoechst 33342 is specific for DNA according to
Regards, Christian
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Consider we have any sample taken from patient. What technique can be used to identify specific miRNA present in that sample?
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Hi
You should first do total RNA or microRNA isolation then depend on your disease of interest you can do different method like:
1- read some paper related to particular disease and find which miRNA is related then run a RT-PCR to detect the miRNA and compare with normal sample.
2-you can use prediction software and predict miRNAs related to gene then use RT-PCR to check expression.
3-you can use micro-array or PCR-array to find different expression pattern in patient and healthy person,also you can do deep seq or RNA-seq.
Best,
Mohsen 
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Is anyone familiar with the above technique? Getting very weird reads especially the the 260/280 and 260/230. We working with 10k cells. 
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It's a common problem that you don't get good phase separation under high sucrose conditions, and the RNA recovery across different sucrose concentrations (as found across polysome fractions) is variable as well.There's a good description of the associated problems and solutions (including protocols) in the Clancy et al. 2007 Methods paper PMID 17923232. The two main ideas described in there are: (1) add heterologous spike-in RNA to each fraction, which will allow you to correct for differential recovery and (2) first precipitate the RNA from the sucrose-containing fractions with ethanol and then use Trizol on the washed RNA pellets.
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Hi everyone,
I'm about to do cell cycle analysis using flow cytometry and need some last advice for the preparation of the PI/RNase staining solution.
In order to get DNase-free RNase it is often said to boil the RNase for up to 20 min at 95°C.
However, there are several buffers recommended for the preparation of a 10 mg/mL stock solution.
Some researcher simply use 10 mM Tris-Cl (pH 7.5)[1], others use 10 mM sodium acetate buffer (pH 5.2) to avoid precipitation and later adjust to pH 7.4[2].
Any suggestions whether the type of buffer and the pH have a big impact on the DNase degradation?
Thanks alot for your suggestions!
Best regards
Martin
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You shouldn't have to get rid of the DNAse. Most flow cytometry buffers have 5 mM EDTA in it.  DNAse has an absolute divalent cation dependent activity requirement - there will be virtually no DNAse activity in this buffer - no matter how contaminated.
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Dear colleagues, please be so kind to tell me if there is any database on RNA regulatory elements (SREs (ESE/ESS,ISE/ISS), IREs, AU-rich elements, ribiswitches, etc?
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RBP Map is great, I use it all the time:
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I run it with DNA and I got few RNA smears, so I would like to whether it's RNA or something.
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You mentioned you run it with DNA? so, what's your goal here? If only study DNA, you can simply add RNase. If you're interested in study sperm RNA, then there're different types of RNA as Jagadish mentioned, then what type of RNA you want to study? that will influence how you extract it, unless you want get total RNA from sperm.
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I need to increase 260/230 ratio in RNA samples, that´s why i want to make ethanol precipitation (sodium acetate), but my doubt if i add glycogen in precipitation procedure then could it affect  Agilent miRNA microarray experiment??
please help! Thanks!
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From our experience it has not any effect on miRNA Agilent. 
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I will do microarray experiments, indeed I would like to concentrate some RNA samples for microarray concentration requirements.
I hope you can help me! thanks!
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I have MASSES of experience with Agilent arrays. I find that the easiest way to concentrate RNA is to vauum-dry it (SpeedVac) at ~45oC! It also eliminates the worry about differential precipitation of small and large RNA. In fact, I haven't bothered bringing the RNA to the recommended concentration for years. Instead, I aliquot the right amount of RNA into the wells/tubes, dry to completion, and resuspend in the mastermix with water added to the right final volume.
The reason I started doing it is that at least the miRNA arrays are sensitive to salt, so I was trying to avoid another ethanol precipitation with potential salt carryover.
I have not tried Glycogen, but linear acrylamide does not inhibit anything.
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I am doing an experiment where I am adding RNA to Promega's TnT Quick Coupled System (rabbit reticulocyte lysate) and then performing phenol/chloroform extraction. I started with a final concentration of ~300 ng/µl of RNA in RRL (1 µl RNA in 5µl final volume), extracted in 295 µl water + 300 µl acid phenol, ethanol precipitation in 3x volume of ethanol (900 µl), and then resuspension in 10 µl water.
I ran this on a 4% denaturing PAGE and got either extremely weak or no bands. Additionally, I should point out that I had 2 controls that were not in RRL that showed similar bands to the RRL. When I redid the experiment I added a condition where I doubled the concentration of RNA and saw a strong band in this lane and the same weak or no bands in the other lanes.
I searched the literature quite a bit and could not find much information on concentrations that should be used? Does anyone have information on what the minimum thresholds should be for concentrations of RNA in phenol chloroform extraction?
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You are likely running into a lower limit on ethanol precipitation. When the overall concentration of DNA or RNA is very low, the efficiency drops exponentially since the nuclei formed are too small to precipitate. The proportion of DNA or RNA recovered in ethanol precipitation is a sigmoidal curve. At low concentrations the yield is very low until one reaches a threshold. To overcome the problem of low yields at low concentrations, a carrier is sometimes added. This fits with your observation that when you double the concentration of RNA you achieve substantially better yields.
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Are there different results between the use rRNA of 18s ribosome or GADPH to nomalize RT-PCR reaction data?
thank you.
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GAPDH varies largely under hypoxic conditions. 18s is not very good for comparison of different embryonic tissues. When we design arrays, we use a combination of 5-6 housekeeping genes.
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Do you know how to design miRNA primers or where can I buy directly? Thank you.
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"miRNA primers" is a very ambiguous term. It can mean primers for PCR amplification (SYBR Green- or TaqMan-based), pre-miRNA cloning, sequencing, target-site blocking etc...
What method do you need them for?
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We have been trying to isolate total RNA from about 1 million MACS purified CD14 monocytes. We get very low quantities of RNA (20 ng/ul in a 30 ul elution volume totalling about 600 ng RNA) from one million cells. We use the Nucleospin RNA 2 kit from Macherey Nagel. The RNA quality is normally bad (A260/230 ratios less than 1). We freeze the monocytes in lysis buffer for atleast 24 hr before isolation of RNA (only for convenience). Can any one suggest methods to increase quantity of RNA isolation or has anyone had similar problems ?
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Hi Nikhil.
1 million cells is quite a decent amount. I highly recommend using a RNeasy minikit (Qiagen cat no. 74104). I routinely use this kit to isolate RNA from sorted cells. I commonly sort around 100,000 cells and using this kit recover approx 50ng/ul in 12ul (600ng). Using this kit you should be able to significantly increase your yield. The RNA quality is also extremely good so it allows your downstream applications to be extremely efficient. I would steer clear of TRIzol if you haven't used it before as there is a chance that you might loss your tiny pellet of RNA while doing washes, especially if your pellet is clear.
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Hello!
I am developing isothermal amplification technique mediated cycles (lamp), however, when you add the FIP and BIP primers can not get the training of Loopse not visualize the bands in the gel, while testing with F3 and B3 amplified and presented specificity. Someone can tell me what may be hindering the formation of loops when added external primers (FIP and BIP) of the lamp?
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It is common that not all primers designed from the software gave successful amplification. You have to try a couple sets to find the good primers that will amplify your target. Good luck.
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we do ribo-depletion before RNASeq methods why is this not necessary when doing microarrays?
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This all depends on the the labelling methodology employed and the level of sensitivity required. Many microarray methodologies make use of oligo dT priming at the initial cDNA synthesis stage which will specifically prime from the approx. 4 % mRNA present in the total RNA sample. However this methodology can introduce bias to the 3' end of sequences depending on the relative probe positions for any given gene and for some microarray methodologies such as Affy exon arrays it is not suitable and random priming is used. Microarrays by their very nature only interrogate the sequence present on the array whereas RNA seq is unbiased and will read all sequences. As rRNA makes up 95% of a total RNA sample, without ribo-depletion 19 reads out of 20 would be from rRNA rather than the mRNA that you're interested in so would be massively inefficient.
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I tried the RNAi Designer, an online tool www.lifetechnologies.com/rnai, for single-stranded oligos for shRNA's. Apart from that what are the the tools available?
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yeah, Dharmacon's siDESIGN center should be a good choice:
what's your research goal? ever thought to use CRISPR?
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I am looking for a very brand new review about RNA seq, and I thought that somebody here might know nice references.
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I think you should specify what topic in Rna seq.( mapping, interpretation, formalization,...)  Plus I think if you use google for 10 sec. You find what you are looking for.....
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I have to extract RNA from a cell line to perform cDNA and Realtime-PCR. I have to extract, at least, 1ug of RNA.
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Hi, I don't known what cell lines you used, maybe the attached file can help you.
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Does anybody knows which are the features in sgRNA sequence that can affect the efficiency of sgRNA sequence to edit the target gene?
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Thanks tom,
It was really helpful
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I will perform gene expression in one single embryo  and I am concern about what kit to use for RNA extraction and Reverse transcriptase regarding sensitivity.
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Dear Mariana, certainly to date you will find many kits that allow you to obtain rna from embryo or oocytes, Ill suggest this paper, little bit old but talk about the technical considerations you must take in account for this kind of research
Reproductive Biology Vol. 2, No.3 229
Quantitative aspect of gene expression analysis in mammalian oocytes and embryos
Finally that you must be sure of the methodology and technical details in order to have informative data to analyze.
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I have isolated total RNA from C. tropicalis. After analyzing this RNA in agarose gel I am getting three discrete bands. I have also treated the RNA with DNase so chance of getting genomic DNA can be neglected.
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your picture showing a good preparation of total RNA where typically you can see 28s(the topmost) 18s(the middele one) and last one 5s(I think so).  
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The first round of PCR calls for use of your sequence of interest primer with the partial T7 promoter tag appended on. For the second round, do you append the full T7 promoter to your sequence of interest primer, or do you only use the T7 promoter without your sequence of interest primer?
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Dear Adrian,
We only use the T7 promoter primer. This way this primer can be used for every PCR product and primer costs for the gene-specific amplifications are reduced.
Hope this is helpful. Regards,
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I intend to detect large RNAs i.e pre-rRNA using Northern Blotting. I am not able to get complete transfer of my large rRNA species. Any help will be appreciated. 
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I'm considering designing a CRISPR guide RNA expressing plasmid with multiple sgRNAs run off one promoter. Do I need to put a direct repeat sequence in between these, RE sites, nothing, or something else entirely?
From background reading, I see others have done this, but I haven't been able to find an explanation for the plasmid set up. (ex"Multiplexed activation of endogenous genes by CRISPR-on..." Cheng 2013)
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You can also just design oligos for your sgRNAs that contain a T7 site, then you can skip the whole cloning step and just amplify your sgRNAs from annealed oligos.
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Hi, I have an experimental set up in which I treat my cells with either a certain drug (i.e. adding the drug directly to the culture media in the well) or by starving the cells  in FBS and amino acid-free media (HBSS).
After some hours of treatment, I perform Trizol RNA extraction and a TURBO DNase treatment. The nanodrop gives me values around 2.0 for both ratios, but when I run the RNA on a gel, only those samples that were cultured in HBSS are not degraded (i.e. 3 out of 15). I observed this two times already.
My theory is that the FBS or P/S in the culture media somehow favors RNA degradation and that is why the serum-free cultured samples all look fine.
Have any of you observed something like this? Is it recommended to wash the cells once with PBS before adding the Trizol?
Do RNAses accumulate in the media over time?
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Firstly, your experiment should really be:
full media
full media with drug
HBSS
HBSS with drug.
This way you would know if the effect is induced by the drug or by the media, and whether the effects are additive or redundant.
Bear in mind that if the drug induces apoptosis or other, more specific molecular changes, RNA degradation could be part of the outcome.
As to the RNA extraction itself, definitely wash w/ PBS before harvesting, as the serum is very RNase-rich (I don't think it changes over time, though). P/S is irrelevant. Trizol has a finite capacity to denature protein and serum will out-compete it. If possible, lyse your cells directly in the dish. If collecting a pellet, resuspend in a small volume of PBS first, then add Trizol. Resuspending pellets in Trizol is inefficient and could result in RNA degradation due to partial lysis.
Good luck!
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I used Ribomax to change DNA to RNA. Please suggest how I can recheck RNA which has been generated using the RiboMAX™. System.
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You can check the integrity of the RNA on an agarose gel (as recommended in the manual).
If you want to verify the sequence of your transcripts, reverse transcibe the RNA, and sequence the cDNA, but this should not be necessary for standard applications.
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I want to make cDNA from RNA extractions and I am wondering if it needs to be treated with RNAase or DNAase?
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As with many RNA related questions, the answer is it depends. RNAse in inhibitor for your RNA sample is pretty much a must. once it is cDNA then it is not so important.
DNAse treatment is really important if you are using SYBR green and primers that do not span an intron. With primer probe and intron spanning primers it is much less important.
Also if you are using the delta delta Ct method everything is related to a housekeeper. If the expression of your gene is high, and the copy number per genome is low, does it really matter if you measure a bit of gDNA? What accuracy do you need? if you measure 10100 but its actually 10000+ 100 gDNA does that matter?
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The cell line is Hepa 1-6 mouse liver cell line.
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In my experience, both the ration of lipofectamine to oligo and the total volume used affect the efficiency