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Usually, field tests uses the short circuit simulations to test the protection schemes and relays. Sometimes, depending on the transmission system complexity, it could get poor results. My question is: would be useful using open loop transient simulations (i.e. EMTP or PSCAD results) to test relays in field tests or it would be unproductive?
There is two pin in the power input port of 7sj62 siemens numerical overcurrent relay. The two pin of the port can be energized by both 110 V DC and 230 V ac. There is electronics product in the relay, so a dc to dc converter must be there. My question is how can the power supply differentiate wheather a DC or AC supply is given in the same port and take necessary action accordingly. (Such as if 230 VAC is given how can it realise and use a rectifier and then DC to DC converter and when 110av DC is given how can it realise and skip the rectifier and directly fed to dc to dc converter?)
since Elsevier's journal search is a bit problematic, I can't identify the precise journal that matches my (material science-electrical engineering) based interdisciplinary scope.
keyword :surface coating, power system protection.
Power system protection:
IEEE has suggested that "the secondary current of Current Transformer should be limited to 20 times of the rated secondary current to be a faithful replica of the primary current, or to avoid the saturation. But, my question is that from where did we get this value of 20. Why not it be 30 or 10?
Dear all,
As suggested in the title, I am looking for a postdoctoral opportunity in power system protection, especially in distribution system protection (ground fault, broken-line fault, etc.).
If anyone knows of such a team, I would be very appreciated if you could provide recommendations or guidance.
Sincerely,
Many countries have plans to deploy electric vehicle charging stations (EVCS ). As researchers, how do we start with that?, What about the expected issues that will occur in the power system and ways to solve them?.
Normally, for a forward fault, phase difference between voltage and current of relay (theta) lies between -90 and +90; and for a reverse fault, theta is outside of this range. Some works, however, use negative components of voltage and current of relay to identify fault direction. I want to know that what is the criterion for a forward/reverse fault in this condition? In my simulation studies, phase difference between negative components of voltage and current lies between -90 and +90 for a reverse fault.
The data collected from various measurement devices often contains erroneous values - such as noise, missing values, etc. What are the popular techniques for pre-processing measurement data in Smart Grid/Power System?
Citing references will be really helpful. Thanks in advance!
PMU data can go missing due to several factors - faulty PMU or PDC or communication channel, cyber attack, etc.
Bad data can be also caused due to some of the above reasons or maybe due to some valid reasons such as faults occurring in the power system.
But be the reason valid or invalid, the signal processing algorithm will consider the data to be missing irrespective of the cause and could treat it as a fault and can opt for control strategies accordingly.
My question is directed at gaining insights about how to identify whether the missing/bad data occurred due to a valid (fault, etc) or invalid reason (cyberattack, device failure, etc) by monitoring any other data from any other device or using any algorithm.
If you can share any references, it will also be quite useful.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Dear colleagues,
I am looking for a postdoctoral position in the field of Power System Protection.
Here I found many esteemed young and experienced researchers. Hence, I hope for good guidance on this platform.
Kind regards,
Vishal Gaur
Ph.D. Scholar, IIT Roorkee, India
Generator can be modelled using the Classical Swing Equation model as well as higher order models. What are the advantages (and disadvantages) when the order of the model is increased?
Is there any norm of which model we can choose for any certain application or studies?
Citing references can help.
Thanks!
For ∆-Y power transformer Y-∆ CT connection is used. The Low voltage side is connected is connected with Current transformers that are star connected . Why this cross connection is done and how it prevents from operating on external faults and zero sequence current.
In India, industry uses 415 Volts 3 phase AC power at 50 Hz. It has pros and cons but from electrical safety point of view, where our existing power system protection in Real world do not even have proper earthing and ELCBs. Is it more safe to half the supply voltage to avoid fatalities? Do it has many complications and economics in the world as all the equipment will have to be redesign and existing also needed to be replaced which might not be a direct fruitful preposition.
Dear colleague,
I search for modern software free download application. Thanks for sending me the website link.
Regards
In the trend of energy-saving, many researchers propose LORA technology to enhance the effectiveness of power system protection and management. LoRa technology can assist in the successful advancement of smart grid protection, what are the benefits and drawbacks of utilizing LORA technology in the protection of Distribution Network.
Thanks in advance,
Hello friends
Someone can help me. In this article, which is in the picture below, I do not understand how the Matrix H and Matrix Z is made using the matpower

I want to investigate the impact of STATCOM on the performance of distance delay.
i am using the Matlab 2 machine and 3 machine system models in Matlab (Phasor Models).
How i can make distance for these model and apply it ?
Waiting to see your valuable response.
I am intrigued to know if any document/reference exists that mentions the typical duration of congestion on electrical grids, be it transmission or distribution lines.
I know that peak demands last between 15-30 minutes (hence referred to as 'peak'). But i have heard that periods of congestion on electrical networks, particularly during peak heating or cooling season could also last as long as 4 hours.
Please could anyone refer me to any document/study?
Distance relays respond to a ratio of voltage and current at the relay location, this ratio is in the form of impedance, as the impedance of a transmission line is proportional to its length. This concept is used for locating the location of the fault in a transmission line, via distance measurement.
Thus a relay capable of measuring the impedance of a transmission line up to a predetermined point is used, known as as the distance relay.
Actually I want know what are the different areas related to power system protection and renewable energy sources so that I can find something new in mentioned areas.
Can anyone share some useful research relating power protection and stability?
Here is the formula for 3L and LG fault :
I= Vf/(Z1) I=3Vf/(Z0+Z1+Z2)
By analyzing the formula, one can come to conclusion that LG fault is more severe (assuming Z0<Z1=Z2, which is the usual case). But are we forgetting the fact that in 3L fault, there is a major role played by sub-transient reactance (Zst) which is much smaller that Z1. So the formula gets modified to I=Vf/(Zst) for LLL fault (applicable for first 2 3 cycles). But I have no clue whether same phenomenon occurs in LG fault as well or not and I am similarly confused with this. Can anyone help?
Good research field in power system protection
I am looking for a standardized MV or LV microgrid test system, if it exists (something like IEEE test power systems), in order to make my research more relevant.
I am searching for some statistical incident data where HIF is reported. I have a report of Dr. Don B. Russell, but it is too old (1989). Is there any recent survey available?
It is known that the frequency ratio "r" when more that 1.414 (i.e sqrt of 2) isolation of the vibrations start. Is there any limit on this ratio? or we can increase it as much as we want and isolation will still take place (may not be efficient but will still isolate some amount)
International standards play a vital role in deciding the power system protection market of any region. Though in most of the countries they are same. So does it mean that if standards are different then the energy efficiency market are also different? how does it gets influenced by the application of different motor? If the Energy Efficiency are mostly evaluated by the performance of the Fuse or Circuit Breaker then how it will be?
i have done phasor estimation of voltage and current quantities.
i have attached the code for quadrilateral.
and i don't know how to give trip signal, like what should be coding?
How can you simulate it? SFCL composed of Air core transformer and PWM conveter and SFCL is used to reduce fault current in the system
I want to implement nonlinear multilayer recursive Artificial Neural Networks (ANNs) for instrument transformer correction.
In high voltage lines, for dead zone protection, where a fault occurs between the CT and open CB, DTT will be sent to the other side relay, for fast tripping.
My question is that, if the fault occurs between CT and closed CB, distance relay senses it in its reverse zone and could not operate. Just the busbar protection will operate, but the fault should also be obviated by the other side distance relay. In this case the trip time could not be less than the time of second zone of the distance relay.
However, this time, i.e., 500ms is too high for 400kv.
What is the actual solution in real cases?
Dear power protection experts
Please can somebody answer me which active protection is the most efficient for synchronous generators anti islanding protection from the network (lost of mains), when the power balance between generation and load is ideal Pg-Pl= 0 kW?
I am trying to develop a solution to false CB (Gas Circuit Breaker) tripping. For that I need to understand the physical model of each component in the equivalent circuit of shunt reactor switching ?
What Lp Cp Ls Cs Lb Cl corresponds to physically?

If directional relay is incorporated in grid connected PV system then in presence of harmonics ( comes from semiconductor switches like Thyristors, GTOs, IGBTs, inverter etc), can this relay detect the fault direction properly by using normal directional relaying algorithm? or normal directional relaying algorithm must be modify?
Some times when we add a new generator with grid, it produces Sub-Synchronous effect, can anyone please help me in knowing:
How to reduce/nullify this effect??
And also why this condition exists in Power system?
For the current transformer taps, what would be proper way to figure out saturation values from the CT curve?
Do I draw the circuit diagram relate to the question including the relay?
I know the wire needs to be considered as twice because it is connected to the source.
Below is the example you could use it to explain.
Any help would be appreciated.


Utilities normally charge a penalty to customers who have a power factor below certain limit, which is typically between 0.90 and 0.95. Power factor limits applied in some countries are for instance: Venezuela 0.90; Chile 0.93; Colombia 0.90; Uruguay 0.92; Argentina 0.85; Spain 0.95; Ecuador 0.92; etc. The penalization scheme also varies from one country to other, ore from one utility to other. I would really appreciate your comments on how this limit should be defined, why one country use 0.90 and other 0.93? which aspects must one have into account for defining this limit and the penalization scheme?
Logically, for the load flow analysis, bus of largest generator is considered as swing bus for reference and all other generator buses would be voltage bus. However, recently I noticed that whenever I tend to simulate power grid in ETAP to obtain the load flow solution, the generators simply go idle without any power injection to the grid unless I specify them as swing bus. The solution converges though. So, literally, I turn up specifying 8 out of 11 generator buses as swing bus which completely contradicts with my understanding of Power system.
This might be very vague explanation at this stage. However, Any insights in this matter would be of great help.
The resistor heating may be an issue if longer period of activation is allowed. So what should be done it that case?
Continuation via Barrie Gilbert's encouragement:
Attached are:
Fig 1, the standard OPA inverting circuit.
Fig 2, the work-up for the DiodeFeedback,
values are taken from a working OPA-limiter
where V(in) = 1V, R(in) = 2500 Ohms, I(in) = 400 A
where V(out) = 332 mV
Fig 3, Results of combined standard OPA
with the Diode-FeedBack controlling the V(out)
[ This is the circuit under investigation ! ]
[ In the bottom post,
Have now installed the hopefully FINAL schem
with proper Spice and calculated measurements. ]
Fig 4, Transient plot showing early results of 3 different gains.
[ The last post in this thread contains the entire set of plots.]
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Note: The resistor in series with the pair of diodes
affects the Diode Internal Resistance,
thus the Total Impedance.
V(forward) = VK log (IF/IS(T))
where real world "I" always = V / (R+Dynamic-Impedance) .
Functioinally, I am adding to the Diode's internal "R" ,
in order to raise the V(forward) 'roof' of the limiter.
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Hello everyone,
This is about high power solar inverter. This inverter consists of four identical inverters connected in parallel. The high speed fuses to stop high short circuit currents entering in to inverters connected as shown.
I have also attached the electrical specification of this inverter system.
Can anyone tell me that what would be the maximum short circuit current possible for the high speed fuse location? This is important for dimensioning the fuses.
PS: I have not yet selected the solar cells or PV arrays. The PV fuses present in series with PV arrays are dimensioned with 1.56 times of Isc for PV array to account for safety margin.
Can you please throw some light?
Regards,
Aalok

Which is the more accurate technique for the fault location calculation.
We are nowadays moving towards to smart technologies for the power systems, when we consider the smart technology first would be smartgrid technology. I would like to know the drawbacks of smart grid technologies.
I am highly interested in powers system protection and stability can anyone help me with a researchable topic for masters degree theses.And how tips on how to get started?
What will be the phase difference between fundamental superimposed currents of phase-a and phase-b at relay bus in case of solid ab-g fault in transmission line?
Everywhere I am finding trial and error method for these gains value selection. Matlab has an example for grid connected PV system modeling simulation
power_PVarray_grid_avg or power_PVarray_grid_det . But I have no idea of how values of PI controller were selected for input dc voltage control.
Decoupling GDP from resource use through resource and efficiency revolution has become crucial mantra of our time to ensure absolute resource consumption level within ecological limits. However, it is generally argued that the rebound effect may occur if energy efficiency (EE) improvements enable other resource-intensive activities to take place, thereby negating any saving or efficiency gain. This is because EE gain lowers real price of energy & thus induces energy use due to combination of substitution effect (making energy cheaper than other inputs) & income effect (economic growth pulls up energy use). Some other argue that even if EE does not lead to absolute reduction in energy use in all cases it improves access to energy service by lowering their effective cost.
Are there any empirical evidence from any countries showing the magnitude to various rebound effects and the extent to which they prevent consumption from staying within ecological limits?
In rural India, some of the distribution transformer gets overloaded due to extensive use for agricultural purposes, especially for water pumping. This happens because the free electricity for the agricultural purpose is available only for a short duration on a particular day. Due to the stress, the transformer life reduces and premature failure occurs. One way to over come this is to have a overload relay to transformer protection than using a fuse which people will wire without following the specification.
What are the other possible solution for this problem ?
As the earth or short circuit fault occur at any terminal of the circuit. How the value of the resistance decrease for Earth fault and short circuit. for example
Positive pole to ground: resistance variance from initial stage to final stage
Pole to pole: resistance variance from initial stage to final stage
I would like simulating short circuit on this network. Let me know the webpage/paper.
I want to draw single line diagrams of power systems
I understand that when the current reaches zero,the voltage across phase to earth capacitance is maximum which tends to restrike the arc.After that I was unable to follow.I attached the document I read from.Thanks in advance
For a single phase supplying a load(say domestic load), during positive half cycle current flows from phase of supply to load and then returns back to neutral....But I am confused about it's direction and flow during negative half cycle....Is it either
1) From load to source
or
2) Neutral of supply acts as a phase terminal and phase as neutral
or
Any other happens there.....?
Hello,
Dear RG researchers, as I am working on a paper I need a PSCAD-model of the IEEE 39-bus system. I would be really grateful if anybody can help me with this.
Regards,
Akbar Amirian.
Which insulation class is suited for 400KV in transformer?
Directional distance polarization uses the distance to determine the direction of the fault. In the case of a transmission line or cable, one can use the transmission line impedence to set the relay. In case of a transformer, how can one estimate/calculate the seen impedence by the relay of a fault in both directions?
I am not that familiar with electromagnetic fields so I want to gain some knowledge regarding this and want to work on my FYP.
I want to know the insulation design for a simple residential load.
I want to work on the effects of the performance of composite insulators on power system protection in tropical coastal and industrial areas.
I want to know how we can secure the transmitted data in power substations through PLC line and PLC Devices installed in substations.
Since there are several faults and abnormalities in power systems with sharp changes (such as current chopping, or very high frequency switching), are there any Hall-effect transformers (capable of passing high frequency content of the waveform) installed in power systems?
Can anyone help me to find a suitable objective function for distance protection setting in series-compensated line to be optimized using any optimization technique (genetic, biographical, particle swarm, ...etc.)? In other words, how to convert distance setting into optimization problem ?
I am not talking only about air pollution. I am asking any type of pollution from hydro power plant.
In practical electricity, people use the trial and error method to detect the fault location (Line to line fault / line to ground fault) of a transmission line. They feed supply at the single end at a time by dividing that transmission line into two parts and check the fault up to that section. These processes go on until they find the fault area. After checking if they found anything, then it is ok to go forward.
This process is done from both ends and they sort out the exact location. For finding out the fault phase, they use megger (check the value of resistance between the line to ground and Line to Line for each phase). These technologies take more human effort and consume more time.
Is there any easy technology to solve these kinds of problems?
At present we are solving this problem as an employees of TSECL, 33KV Line from Panisagar to Pacarthol, North Tripura, India.
I want to use the files to prove the fault location algorithm.
I have a motor overload relay attached to a motor which is connected to a pump. The relay is set for 10 A. But when the current supply to the relay is 8 A, it trips. I have checked the current supply using a clamp meter.
Its a 3 phase 5 hp motor. The relay I am using is from Schneider Electric.
My project work is optimization in power system (like load flow, parameters and position finding, filter designing, fault location etc ) and I have used PSO (particle swarm optimization), different new improved version of PSO, HS (harmony search), and different new improved version of HS but I want a new technique, which will gives best results in comparison to all other existing Optimization technique. Please can anyone suggest a new technique which will give best result in comparison to other technique?
Please send me your paper about distances of barriers and oil in power transformers?
I want to do research in adaptive technology application for transmission lines so as to enhance protection performance. I am bit stuck on which tool can I use to simulate.
I tried to design one, but used under and over voltage relays. Does anyone have any better ideas?
It is known that the charge of an occurring PD along a power cable can be measured by an online system installed at its termination and its location can also be derived.
I am wondering if the charge of an occurring partial discharge (PD) follow a specific trend over time. For example could someone state that in general the apparent charge increases or decreases?