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VNA cant handle very high power (talking about 100W and more). There I need to use high power attenuators. How to measure output reflections?
Is it only possible to measure S21 and try to achieve highest gain?
Calibrating VNA after attenuator will be very low precision.
Thank you in advance
Hello,
I would like to ask if there is any typical schematic for a Class D power amplifier that is designed on Keysight ADS software that I can adopt for a designed HEMT device? With the main goal of conducting Single Tone and Two-Tone Simulations on this power amplifier Class.
Would appreciate your replies.
Thank you
I have been trying to simulate a few classes of power amplifiers such as
- Class A
- Class AB
- Class B
- Class E
- Class F
I have developed the models for the classes using Advanced design system (ADS) Keysight software for RF design.
However, I am confused about how to simulate the spectral of the power amplifier at certain carrier frequencies such as 2 GHz and a bandwidth of 5 MHz.
I would like to seek your kind help with how the simulation of the spectral can be achieved. I have conducted Single Tone and Two-Tone Simulations for the models with this point in doubt.
Thank you in advance.
Dear researchers,
I'm working on digital pre-distortion for RF power amplifier linearization, I would like to start modeling the power amplifier as first step, but I don't have the input/output data. Could you please help me?
Use of dual band class f power amplifier for 5 G network
Please read question description carefully before answering.
I am studying microelectronics. I recently got confused about about the small signal models and large signal models. After reading an extensive list of sources, I have come up with some pointers which I want to verify that I have got right.
The term "small signal" can refer two things : small signal amplifier and small signal model/analysis. A small signal model is not the same thing as a small signal amplifier. The same thing can be said about the term "large signal". However both small and large signals are ac signals, and they are large or small with respect to the quiescent or operating point established by the dc bias circuit obtained using DC modeling in both large and small signal amplifier analysis.
Both large and small signal models can be used to model the non linear devices like diodes and transistors( which are operated as amplifiers in active region). The transistor amplifiers are used as voltage or current amplifiers when used as small signal amplifiers and the transistor amplifiers are used as power amplifiers when used as large signal amplifiers.
The small signal amplifier is an amplifier when the applied (AC) input is small with respect to the DC operating point on the DC load line. This type of amplifier uses small signal modeling for its ac analysis. Small signal modeling involved linearizing the non-linear circuit elements at the dc operating point.
There's exist two load lines: dc load line which gives operating point and then there's an ac load line.
The small signal amplifier analysis includes two steps:
- DC analysis using DC modeling or Large Signal Modeling
- AC analysis using Small Signal AC (or Incremental) Modeling
The large signal amplifier is used as a power amplifier. The large signal amplifier analysis includes two steps:
- DC analysis using DC modeling or Large Signal Modeling
- AC analysis is done using graphical analysis and no specific model is used here to model the AC operation of large signal.
The DC analysis is done using large signal modeling in both small and large signal amplifiers so it is also called large signal analysis.
The AC analysis done in small signal amplifiers using small signal modeling is small signal analysis.
Please provide feedback if my points are accurate or need improvement.
(I tried searching large signal model of a transistor and also searching dc model of a transistor. The results obtained in images section of google search show the kinds of circuits for dc models and large signal models. That is also how I inferred large signal models and DC models are the same. Some references are also present to support this point).
References:
Hi,
I would like to gain more insights on HEMT figures of merit (cutoff frequency f_T, maximum oscillation frequency f_max, breakdown voltage BV, on-resistance R_on, maximum drain current I_dmax) to understand the relationship between the device performance (in terms of RF operation) and each of the figures of merit. However, I have not been able to find good resources on this and all the review papers seem to assume the readers already have this knowledge. Below are the some of the examples I have been pondering:
1. What is the benefit of having higher drain current I_dmax in RF operation and what are the factors that increase I_ds in designing a device?
2. What are the factors that increase f_T? For example, is it a shorter gate length, high electron mobility, etc? Does higher f_T mean higher gain?
3. What is the benefit of having lower R_on?
Thank you.
For PhD.. I want to find a topic for my research in the field of Power amplifier design, is there any suggestions ?
Hello
Actually I'm trying to learn about Doherty PA that I can design with a Class J PA and another PA using ADS.
I don't know if it's a good direction that's why I'm asking for suggestions
By the way, I'm learning the design of those differents PAs using ADS.
Thanks
Since We are working in Design and Fabrication of GaN based HEMT for high power millimeter wave applications, We would like to extent our research work to design a PA using our GaN based HEMT devices for verifying its performance.
Can anyone suggest in this regard?
Actually my target is to design an ultra low power amplifier using 65nm cmos technology. Fortunatelty i succeeded to get excellent results using AnalogLib components. But when is used real components from TSMC library the S21 decreased alot. I tried so many optimization methods but failed. At the end, increasing VGS is solving my problem. But the issue is that amplifier is consuming high DC power. Is there any just 1mW or around nmos transistor to work with?
Due to the existence of several communication systems, there are many solutions to obtain a multiband circuit. For instance, considering power amplifiers, individuals amplifiers are designed to operate in each band.
However, considering solutions of concurrent matching, there are papers that present solutions where just one amplifier is used combined with concurrent (no-switched) matching networks capable of generating target impedances in each frequency of interest. Based on this solution, what commercial applications are using concurrent matching to obtain systems capable of operating at several bands ?
If you can provide me systematic approach including final step to make a high gain & efficiency wide band RF power amplifier for my final year research project (title: cellular signal booster system for 3G/4G), It'll be a best help.
thank you
Considering a design of a power amplifier, how should I choose a transistor which maximizes the 1dB compression point ? What parameters should be analyzed ?
Best regards,
Fabricio Simoes
In some applications like IoT,
the transmitter turns off for power saving when the transmission is not needed.
I'm not sure but I heard that:
when the transmitter is on, the data length - in time - tends to be us(or ms) length @ 2.4GHz.
Just for my curiosity,
is there any other applications whose data length - in time - tends to be sub-us(ns) length?
(regardless of the frequency of carrier)
I am implementing power amp. with 16-QAM. Because of issue on power consumption, I am using time division duplex (TDD). By TDD, the power amp. turns off if the carrier wave is not needed and vice versa.
As represented in the figure, PLL makes 4 output signals P0~P270 with 90 degrees difference each. When PA turns off, the switch between PLL and PA disables to block AC signals.
Here is the issue:
There exist some overshoots when the power amp. turns on by TDD.
Does anyone experienced this overshoot when the transmitter turns on? What would be the reason?
I am looking to design a S-Band BPF in LTCC with wide stop-band.So to design this filter I need to design L and C with high SRF
The power amplifier is a 3 stage device and the output fluctuation is probably due to the final stage only as we have tested them individually. But how to solve the problem is the basic question which can be answered if we know what causes it. I doubt that there is a grounding problem, and tried some things, but was unsuccessful.
Many data sheets for power amplifiers state the P1O ( 1dB compression point) and Psat (saturated power) levels of the device. what is the difference between them, are they same?
I am using Toshiba TIM1314-15UL power amplifier as last stage in my BUC design. When I try yo increase IF power, I can not reach 40 dB or more than that. It starts to compress around 38 dBm output power. I do get 7-8 dB as stated in datasheet so I guess biasing is correct.
In a transmitter chain with a power amplifier feeding an antenna, a commercial isolator is providing 18 dB isolation, will that much isolation will be enough for a 15 W power amplifier, so that it may not get damaged by any reflection due to mismatch?
I am designing a 50w power amplifier using ADS tool To simulate that I am using s2p file. I am not getting harmonic balance simulation results properly, can we HB simulation using s2p file or not.
I want to start research on high power amplifier design for broadband applications. Could someone let me know what would be the best starting point? I have some knowledge of NI AWR design environment.
Hi everyone,
I amd working the technology of high efficiency power amplifier.
As we know, the gate voltage of PA is fixed during the experiments, except for some dynamic bias control technologies.
During many PA experiemnts, like CGH40010F, CG2H40010F or CGHV1F006S, I found an intersting phonomenon, the gate voltage of the PA will decrease if we continue increase the input power when it reaches the peak output. Moreover, a considerabele gate current can also be observed.
Meanwhile, the output power and efficiency also start to decay with the change of the gate voltages.
Why and how did these phonomena happen? Can these phonomenna be used to estimate the operating status of the transistor? Or how to avoid these phonomena?
Regards!
Tian
I am writing a grant to buy some equipment for the ERG. I am currently using a borrowed powerlab which I can't say I enjoy using much as the software is not great for analysis (although it does record well and is pretty low noise). I have used CED 1401/1902 in the past and liked them, but I am aware these models are quite old now! If anyone has suggestions I would really appreciate it. I need to be able to output a TTL pulse to a shutter, and input a photodiode. I am working on mice and have electrodes, light sources, ganzfelds etc, so I am not looking for a full system.
I am trying to bias Toshiba TIM1314-9L Power amplifier. When I start biasing up it shows short and I think oscillation is happening. How to prevent oscillation and bias this amplifier?
Hi All,
I am working on the design of an S band continuous wave high power amplifier based on 64QAM signal.
The major bottleneck for the time being is the selection of a suitable amplifier/ combination of amplifiers (LDMOS/ GAN based) and using them in such a way that I am able to obtain a high signal linearity with minimum distortion (might utilize some pre-distortion techniques), and am able to achieve a low bit error rate and phase distortion within a band of approx 300-400MHz.
I am initially targeting a power of 300-400watts which I will at the later stage increase using an array of transmitting antennas.
Any guidelines/ suitable research material would be highly appreciated.
Regards
Anum
I just came across a problem in power amplifier used in communication chain which exhibits nonlinearity due to memory effects.This can be nullified with a help of digital pre-distortion using signal processing algorithms.
Can anyone please tell how it is achieved and explain the math part behind the algorithm?
Suggestion of book or a research article is preferred.
Thanks
Rakesh
I am designing a power amplifier and want to go for EM simulation for that amplifier.In active components we should add power supply and packaged transistor.but i am not getting how to give power supply in lay out window and how can i proceed for EM simulation for active components in ads tool?
I use TI devices, DLP7970ABP and RF430FRL152H tag. In order to enlarge the reading range, I buy a power amplifier and a large antenna(430mm*330mm). If I only disconnect the original antenna on the board and link the new one, it worked. And the reading range can be enlarge from 5cm to 12cm. However, if I put the power amplifier between the new antenna and the 7970ABP, it doesn't work. SO, Is there any way to add a power amplifier correctly on the DLP7970ABP?
Amplifier Linearity test using ADS software.
I am trying to design a power amplifier for a 900MHz signals and I am having trouble understanding the design process. Is there any equations that help calculate the value of the components.
I wonder if I could make it out by dividing the operation frequency into two parts and using some existing tech. ,such as digital Doherty ,outpasing amplifier structure or the combination of them .
Hello everyone,
I am building a home-made vibrational circular dichroism spectrometer, and for that I use polarization modulation of my IR signal. I have a photoelastic modulator (PEM) that modulates my signal at 50kHz, and in order to retrieve the small signal carried by the 50kHz frequency, I need to demodulate it. For that purpose I use a lock-in amplifier (LIA) (Stanford SR830), but when I plug the "Ref In" of the PEM, the LIA detects a 100kHz frequency, and I specifically need to demodulate my signal at 50kHz.
Does anyone jnow why would that be ? And how I can change this 100kHz "locked" frequency to 50kHz ?
Thanks in advance,
Benjamin
Here in our Institute, we are able to model, design, and characterize the PAs for low freq below 6 GHz.
We have facilities like:
1. Modelling and Simulation: ADS;
2. Characterize: VNA up to 13.6 GHz; Signal Generator; Spectrum Analyser.
3. On FR4 substrate fabrication is done.
We are open to collaboration, if anyone wants to collaborate feel free to contact us: shub@nitm.ac.in.
PS: For your reference, I have attached the setup picture - 2 tone testing
We want to make a magnetic field ~ 20 mT at 500 KHz. We are finding a good power amplifier (high power at 500 KHz) and a good capacitor company.
Thanks
The non-linearity of power amplifier limits the power output efficiency. So, we can use DPD technique to improve it. But we need to know the power amplifier with the memory effect or memory-less. I hope that i can use some kind of test or experiment to verify it.
I noticed that in most of designs there are extra microstrip stubs along transmission line or at input and output of RF power amplifier. Is it for matching purpose? But these amplifiers are already 50 ohm internally matched then why we need those extra stubs at input and output of the amplifier? How to design those stubs and shape?
Is there any particular technique for designing it? In these two picture they have different type of matching network at input and output of power amplifier.
trying to rf select power amplifier for the transmitter circuit which is implemented using bpsk modulation technique.
Hi, Can you tell me How to find PAE or Power Amplifier Efficiency in Advanced Design Technology (ADS)?
Thanks
Traditionally method of determining of extracting capacitance of active deices is to use s parameters , then convert to y parameters and change bias points . This will give a CV curve . Of course capacitances of RF devices will be very small , for example Cds .
In the case of a HBT , current mirrors are typically used . If the capacitance of the HBT current mirror reference device can be actively measured for capacitance , it may be possible to create a active linearizer based on the capacitance swing of the reference device in the current mirror which follows the AC load line of the larger RF transistor in a transistor power amplifier .
The capacitance swing of the large RF power transistor creates the AM to PM distortion from capacitance swing , but this capacitance swing is limited by the AC load line . Potentially minimizing distortion into higher VSWR operation .
The problem of using current mirrors is bandwidth considerations in relation to the baseband modulation on the RF signal . To overcome this alternative techniques of RF pre-distortion may need Look up tables .
Please answer what are minimum capacitance levels you are measuring ?
Bet regards
Tim Aust
I want to find the PAE or Power Amplifier Efficiency result using HB simulation without probe components. How can I get the PAE result?
Thank You
I have a GaN power amplifier of 50 watts and have one 7 element yagi antenna which is operating at 2.45 GHz and there is a output matching network in amplifier. I have to remove that matching network and have to match output impedance of amplifier to the yagi antenna by changing its parameters. So i need to change parameters of yagi antenna in such a way that i get maximum power transfer between amplifier and antenna without any matching network.
What are the applications of "Active filter tuned oscillators" ?
What are its advantages over other oscillator circuits?
Can we call other oscillators "amplifier tuned oscillators" ?
For my thesis, i need to measure Schottky diode input impedance. As i read from papers, diode impedance changes by incident power and frequency. I set up a testbench in AWR and did some simulation. I reallly dont know that my measurements are correct. First of i i changed the diode parameters according to HSMS-2820 ' datasheet then put some parasitics elements around diode for accurate modeling (comes from packaging) i made harmonic balance simulation without bias tee as shown in the attachments. Does everything looks ok ?
Load impedance = 500 ohm
Input power = 10dbm
Diode = HSMS 2820
Thanks
Is there any exact equation between these two parameters?
I'm now doing wireless power transfer project, I have buy one RF Power Amplifier that has 1Mhz as maximum frequency. I need to design a matching impedance 50ohm at 1Mhz helical antenna .
Here is the link of the RF Power Amplifier that I have
Good morning,
Hope all doing well!
Regards to my on-going project RF Coaxial to Microstrip transition design. Please check it out if you are interested in. I am thinking how to choose the substrate material for the microstrip transmission portion. FR-4 is much cheaper but has big frequency-dependent dielectric constant Dk (4.35 - 4.8), typical 4.7 RT-duroid-5870 or 5880 of Rogers Corporation is much more stable dielectrics and work at high frequency too. However, it seems only guaranteed in frequency range 8 - 40 GHz
Puzzled@!
Would anyone please give me some good advice for my project on this matter?
Thank you so very much!
Best Regards,
Hello!
I designed a 2nd order bandpass Chebyshev filter in HFSS. I fabricated the sample and measured the s-parameters. Its a two port network and it should have R1, R2, C1 and C2.
I want calculate transient response of this filter and also the transfer function.
For that, I would like to get exact values of R1, R2, C1 and C2.
How can I extract these four values from measured S-parameters (recorded from VNA)? Or from the simulated s-parameters in HFSS?
Do we have any option in HFSS to extract resistance and capacitance values directly?
Thanks!!
A comparison included operation, size and the cost of the MOSFET will be really helpful.
Is there any equation that we can relate these two parameters?
RF choke usually called L1 in Class E power amplifier.
I know we can modulate the data by varying voltage source, or by changing input frequency to have ASK data modulation, but I want to find the best way to modulate data in ASK method with LOW power consumption and HIGH data rate.
I'm working on piezoelectric devices simulation,. Can anyone tell me how to apply a sine voltage with frequency f0 and voltage V0 ?
Current Mode Devices have No or Less parasitic capacitance than voltage mode devices
There is a peculiar bunched noise observed at the output of a charge sensitive per-amplifier. Can anyone explain what would be the source of such noise.
I am in search of a piezoelectric transducer which generates voltages in the range of a few 100 mV (at < .2g acceleration) and has an intrinsic piezo capacitance greater than 300 nF. It need not be commercially available, a mere reference to a paper which deals with a similar device would suffice. I understand that large capacitances can be achieved with a larger area. I prefer something in a small form factor. Thank you for your attention.
I have a 4 level signal that need to be power amplified with efficiency higher than 90%.
the levels of the signal are {-3A,-A,A,3A}. assuming in each level, the amplitude is constant until the next amplitude level is switched, what class of amplifier ( or customized power amplifier) can be used to amplify that type of signal with maximum switching rate with high power efficiency?
we know that when we have two level signal, class C amplifier can do this by applying an amplifier and limiter to the input signal and then non-linearly amplify the signal with out distorting the signal (because it is 2 level) .
so is there a generalization to that approach that can keep the (4-level) signal not distorted after amplification?
In designing power amplifier with packaged device, it is necessary that loadpull data from intrinsic plan, transferred to packaged plan, but when transferring this datas, Sort them running wild!!! And matching them is Difficult or even impossible!
What is the best way for transferring loadpull datas from intrinsic plan to package plan ? So that their arrangement (their rotation direction) be predictable? It is meaning that: How we must select harmonic impedance, so that the transferred impedance trajectory, be predictable?
Who can express constraints on the implementation of broadband matching networks with SRFT algorithm?
For example, frequency band limitation & relation between real & imaginary parts of the impedances at different frequency point inside the desired bandwith that srft is able to implement it?
I saw that srft in power amplifier, often used for matching at frequencies below 2 GB. What's the limitation for use of it in frequencies above 2 GB?
What is the Restrictions on the matchig of impedances point that real and imaginary parts of them is far from each other?
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In general, for what impedance trajectory on the Smith Chart, SRFT gives good response?
what I mean for impedance trajectory is "ploting matching impedances S11 on smith chart"
What type of power amplifiers are more suitable to massive MIMO when the the power per antenna is very small (around 10s milliwatts). and is the PAPR (peak to average ratio) still an issue and would degrade the PA efficiency?
Thanks for your time
I want to measure the phase lag (time lag) between LDV vibrometer and other equipment such as voltage and current probes with accuracy of 1 degree (~nanoseconds). Unfortunately, the vibrometer has a "response delay" in micro second order, comparing to ns order "response delay" in current and voltage probes. For measuring with nanosecond accuracy I should get rid of sensors response delays.
I am using a Polytech OFV-3001 LVD using velocity decoder (based on doppler effect) for measuring displacement/velocity around 20kHz-50kHz frequencies.
My designed folded cascode amplifier is working properly now. But, the phase margin is 93 degree. I need to have phase margin around 70 degree. But, I do not have idea on how to increase the phase margin.
In the attachment, the yellow-circled is the folded cascode op-amp where as the transistors out of the circled area are the biased networks.
Thank you in advance.
Regards.
We are attempting to use a SR530 Lock-In Amplifier by Stanford Research Systems to amplify neural signals recorded from rat hippocampus, however we have no working knowledge of how to set up the system. Currently I have it connected to an osciliscope and frequency generator and am attempting to simply amplify the signal coming in, however I am getting a lot of noise or a flat line. I have read the manual and am still in the dark about how to set this machine up. Is something supposed to be plugged into reference? How to the signal inputs relate to the channels?
Any assistance would be greatly appriciated.
Does anybody uses CED 1902 MK III (not IV) amplifier?
I am looking for specification (manufacturer and model) of the Power Supply of the 1902 MK III.
If any actual users there, please let me know the PSU (adapter) info.
I'm new to the area of Hydrophones. And I am currently working with a setup which uses two TC4013's, one as a projector (Tx) and one as a receiver (Rx). The former uses a power/charge amplifier (CCA1000) and the latter uses a voltage amplifier (VP1000).
I'm trying to understand why these amplifiers are required?
I am applying a 4G test signal at the input of my SMPA and running a transient simulation. I want to find out ACLR at its output. Can someone pease help me calculate this? Thanks.
Why the power and dynamic range are inversly proportional in log amplifiers?
Hi, I constructed ac coupled non inverting amplifier.And I use OPA827 as an op amp.However, when I apply +-15 V by power supply ,I see 4Mhz sin wave with 15V.By adding 100 ohm resistor between opamp output and scope, I can get rid of 15 V and see only amplified voltage. Question is ,what causes 15 V 4 Mhz at output? The picture of it attached.
SSPA is linear and TWTA is more efficient. How are linearity and efficiency of high power amplifier related? Where should I concentrate more; on linearity or efficiency?
Please give the size of the smallest hole which can be made by screw with hand ( please do not hint me to use LPKF which is very expensive instrument)
I am using the ADS for my simulation but I find it hard to choose for the appropriate active device to be used in 90nm CMOS process. Please help.
While designing low noise amplifier (LNA), we are using both passive feedback and active feedback. what are its importance and limitations of active and passive feedback, while designing LNA
Passive feedback means we are using R,L, C as the feedback elements in LNA
Active Feedback means we are using Transistor as the feedback element in LNA
Most previous researchers used current reused technique, but i think it is too many of them already.
I have designed Power amplifier (PA) and low noise amplifier(LNA) at 3.5GHz and I want to draw equivalent circuit for my PA and LNA. From the equivalent circuit, I have to obtain related equations. Is there any documents available for drawing equivalent circuit and obtaining related equation. How to obtain equation for input and output impedance, voltage gain, Noise Figure,and linearity. Can you show me.