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Dear all,
That is the second or third time that I observe a yellow coloring of histological sections stained with toluidine blue. It is well established its metachromatic reaction ranging from green, blue, purple and pinkish colors. But this yellow staining is intriguing me! Does anyone know what this reaction may tell us? Do you have any reference of it?
I am sending a picture of cross sections of Cinnamomum (bark sample) and Malus (periderm/stem sample) to illustrate what I am talking about.
Kind regards!
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Really interesting Q and A !
Would love to read about progress in further elucidation of the phenomenon...Thanks also to Lora Benoit for posting the link to litearture.
Best regards, WHM.
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We need a review paper about mutations & anatomy of succulent spiny plants.... all the best
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The folllowing articles can give you a clue on the issue you raised, Thank you!
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I have always used the identification of sectioning planes used in plant anatomy, to date tangential, radial and transverse (cross section) planes. It is easy to accept that the radial plane is parallel to the higher axis of the organ and that the cross section is perpendicular to the higher axis of the organ or sample at study.
Considering that we borrowed geometrical concepts to name these planes, I am questioning the tangential plane.
Recalling geometrical concepts, a tangent is a straight line or plane that touches a curve, but do not intersect it, and a secant is a straight line that cuts a curve in two or more parts (in our case, plant organs will rather approach a cylindrical form, so that this imaginary line will cut our cylinder/circle in two points).
By these definitions wouldn’t it be more appropriate to name the third plane as secant plane instead of tangential plane?
Besides the common use, does anyone know a reason for this?
Since the “section” of is a secant (that by the way, in its origin, secant also means “to cut”), it seems that “tangential plane” is a misname of the sections that are parallel to the main axis but do not pass through the center or radial plane of the organ.
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Thanks for this interesting thoughts
Every body will agree that "transverse" is OK.
Strictly speaking the 2 other plans which are necessary for a 3D description are the "longitudinal radial" and the "longitudinal tangential" ones.
The "longitudinal radial" section is determined by the longitudinal axis and any radius. OK, it's clear.
The "longitudinal tangential" section is determined by the longitudinal axis and any plan perpendicular to a radius. Such plan is tangential to the growth rings, hence its name.
A plan tangential to the organ (supposedly cylindrical) will not intersect the organ, obviously. Thus a "tangential section" is necessarily an oxymoron, unless admitted that it has to be understood as "an almost tangential section". A nuance that is perhaps insufficient to justify a revolution, which has hardly bothered generations of users and could only make learning more difficult.
Thanks again for this occasion to think to that
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I work on plants of the genus Crassula, which have succulent leaves with usually thick cuticle. For microscopy, I'm currently sectioning resin-embedded samples in an ultramicrotome. In a nutshell, the protocol I'm using is as follows:
1. Fixation in formaldehyde (4%)
2. Ethanol dilution series to dehydrate
3. Embedding in LR white resin (medium grade) + resin polymerisation
4. Sectioning in an ultramicrotome using glass blade
I'm obtaining sections that are 1 or 2 μm thick. The problem is that, even though most of the sample looks fine, while sectioning the resin tends to detach from the cuticle and rips off many epidermal structures. This leads to either broken epidermis or greatly distorted, and I also lose most of the details of the indumentum.
Has anyone had a similar problem while sectioning resin-embedded samples with thick cuticles? If so, what would you recommend that I change to prevent this from happening?
Thanks :)
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Alistair Leverett Var St. Jeor Sabine Dürr Thanks so much for your suggestions! I actually cut the succulent leaves into 2-3mm sections before the dehydration and embedding in resin, to make sure that the resin will penetrate the tissues. So most of the surface is already exposed mesophyll, so that reasin can penetrate. When looking at the sections, the appearance inside the tissues seems homogenous, which leads me to believe that the resin penetrates properly. It is only the cuticle itself which sometimes detaches from the resin and tears the epidermis in the process. I will reassess the protocol that I'm using, maybe I can make some adjustments following your suggestions. Thanks again :)
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What methods are there to measure the number of trichomes on a leaf ?
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Abbas-Azimi, R., Jalili, A., Bakhshi-Khaniki, G., Sobhanian, H., & Matinizadeh, M. (2020). EFFECT OF LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE ON QUANTITATIVE CHANGES OF SOME ANATOMICAL AND MORPHOLOGICAL FEATURES OF ALNUS SUBCORDATA CA MEY. LEAVES IN HYRCANIAN FORESTS. The Iranian Journal of Botany, 26(1), 75-90.
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Im working with fresh apical stems and this organ is very soft. After embed in Cryomatrix or OCT, it is posible to obtain around 40% of sections with good morphology (even cambium cells). But in the other 60%, shrinkage happens specially in cambium cells. Troubles:
- Samples after dry suffer of cell shrinkage, specially the cambium cells
- Samples after ethanol wash (for laser microdissection), suffer an even more shrinkage.
How could I avoid shrinkage in my cells? 
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I am looking for free images of plant anatomical structures to be included in a book on plant anatomy. Specifically, I am looking for light microscope images of plant cells and tissues. I have many I have taken myself, but still are missing a few. The sites I have found have watermarked images. I would also like you to recommend a manual on how to cite the source of these images while respecting copyrights. Any information will be appreciated.
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Seems that the images I found have a water mark, or have strong restrictions, so the best way to go is to generate my own images, which is not that bad. It requires more time. The issue here is that images I need will be used for a book , and although I am not expecting to get rich very likely the publishing company will get its share. So the images will be used for commercial purposes. That is the little but important detail that makes this issue tricky. Thank you all for your interest.
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The effects on plant physiology, plant anatomy, etc....
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I am doing, the effects of the nanoparticles on plant anatomy (used spray and siol methods)
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I have collected in Northern in Vietnam.
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Without flowers impossible to identify in most cases...
Impatiens omeiana should have underground stolons.
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What dyes do you prefere for to stain bryophytes on anatomical studies? In case of Toluidine Blue O, there is an ideal pH for bryophytes?
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Dear Researchers and teachers i am walling to work on plants ecology, Engendered plants, Wild vegetable and fruits, Medicinal plants, pollen morphology as well plants anatomy and morphology. but its very hapless of me that i have no lab for working. so i need your kind help please recommend me a topic according to my interest that i have mentioned above. i like to work on different aspect of plants.
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Dear researcher, A research work is based on ones own interest or it can be a work suggested by your guide provided you are confident enough to undertake it. Almost all areas that you have suggested is interesting. Kindly do literature review so that its easy for you to understand what type of research work you would like. Research is neither a work to be done under pressure nor should be hectic. It has to be an enjoyable job which makes you curious to find more...Best wishes..
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In stem anatomy, we can easily observe vessels and tracheids, but its difficult to find out sieve tubes and companion cells especially in TLS and RLS. So is there any staining technique to differentiate phloem components?
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One of the simplest methods is to make manual cuts from the plant tissue and observe all types of phloem cells under the microscope. Electron microscopy can be useful.
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I am trying to make anatomical cuts of seeds of neotropical species. For this, I use a general protocol for plant tissues with some modifications. However, when I make the cuts in the microtome the paraffin sheets breake down.
Does anyone know of any specific protocol about fixation and embedding of plant seeds to obtain successful anatomical cuts or can someone give me some advices in this regard?
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Jose M. Rojas , did you try embedding into resins? Instead of paraffin you may use hard resins such a epon hard, durcupan, araldite or LR White hard. They are used for electron microscopy but when you cut semithin sections (500-1000um), you can observe them in light microscope as well.
The sample need to be properly infiltrated with resin.
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The plastic techniques for plant anatomy are very expensive, so we need to adapt the resources and perform anatomical studies without the need for a microtome.
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Dr Yeung’s 1998 book might help. Chapter 9 with sectioning techniques is available online:
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Symplastic loading is passive, and by definition does not require ATP for sucrose loading into the phloem. In apoplastic loaders, by contrast, ATP is required for sucrose loading into the phloem, which is provided through the Sucrose Synthase catalyzed breakdown of some of the sucrose actively symported into the sieve element companion cell (SE-CC) complexes. Is it then plausible that Sucrose Synthase would be found in the SE-CC complexes of apoplastic loaders and not in the SE-CC complexes of symplastic loaders?
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Please see below the reference:
Daloso, D. M., Williams, T. C., Antunes, W. C., Pinheiro, D. P., Müller, C., Loureiro, M. E., & Fernie, A. R. (2016). Guard cell‐specific upregulation of sucrose synthase 3 reveals that the role of sucrose in stomatal function is primarily energetic. New Phytologist, 209(4), 1470-1483.
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Plant cuticles are hydrophobic solid-state lipid layers containing waxes, cutin and small amounts of some polysaccharides (cellulose and pectins). they play crucial role in evaporation prevention, pathogen repellent and molecular permeability.
Cuticle thickness vary between plant species from less than 1 µm to 10 µm. for example for Citrus species, cuticle is relatively thick and measures 4 µm. I need info concerning leaf cuticle thickness for other species??
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There is an exhaustive chapter that listed cuticle properties for plant species. The fine structure of the plant cuticle. In: Riederer M, Mu¨ller C,
eds. Biology of the plant cuticle. Oxford, UK: Blackwell, 11–125.
But I found contradictions when collecting data from the bibliography..
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Hi all,
I am proposing to measure the double intervessel wall thickness of xylem conduits in both stem and roots, and I am just wondering what methods others have previously used to do this?
I plan to use the software program ImageJ to analyse images of my slides (transverse sections of stem and root).
If anyone has any advice or suggestions that would be great!
Thanks in advance.
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We are also using image J. The limiting fact is to prepare good slides to have good resolution. The method to mesure is of a minor importance then.
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Expansion of xylem and phloem while flower bud formation and development in blueberry.
to determine this, I planned to perform a histological study. 
Samples are Blueberry's one year old shoots, collected in the last February and just preserved in 70% ethanol. 
I need a protocol or detail explanation for this histological studies. 
Thanking you very much, 
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For the kind of work you want to perform and being ethanol a soft fixative, you can go for hand cut sections and/or paraffin embeded sections. Yo can also try resin embeded protocols for semithin sections in case you need more resolution.
For hand cut sections (or vibratome sections, if you have one available), you will need practice, so be sure you take useless material and perform several cuts before going with the important samples. You can stain xylem with Toluidine blue O (TBO) or with Phloroglucinol. Here youi can find some info and pictures about what you should get: http://www1.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/library/webb/BOT410/410Labs/LabsHTML-99/Xylem/Labxyphlo99.html
For TBO, try 0.05% TBO in PO4 buffer (pH 5.5). You will need to adjust time, but start with 5-10 minutes. Then wash with distilled water and mount for microscope observation.
Phloroglucinol: put some drops of 0.1 g Phloroglucinol + 16 ml HCl(37%-12M) + 100 ml etanol 95% on the sample and incubate about 30 minutes (again, check and test time for your samples). Be very careful, because you are using HCl at high concentration! And keep in mind that you must make the observations quickly and take pictures, because the acid will disolve the tissues.
This book can be useful for you to find protocols and techniques, so try to check it: Ruzin, S.E. (1999) Plant Microtechnique and microscopy. Oxford University Press, New York.
For paraffin embeding, you can check internet for general protocols. I have a general description in this paper: https://academic.oup.com/aob/article/95/6/935/189223/Interaction-between-Orobanche-crenata-and-its-Host
I hope this will be helpful for your work.
Cheers.
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histological charectors of plants or microscopy of plant
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I'd like to know what percentage of lignin in hardwood roots and softwood roots.
I looked for articles about lignin in root, but I didn't find.
Cordially, 
Deyvid.
 
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You can use Syros et al (2004) methodology for lignin quantification.
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Any one can suggest me FAA fixative proportion specially for leaf tissues? For long term preservation. 
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Hi, I used for 100mL:
formaldehyde (37%) - 10mL 
Ethanol  (96%) - 50mL
Distilled water - 35mL 
Acetic acid - 5mL 
However,  I don't recommend storing tissues in FAA because it's aggressive and may cause the hardening and fracture of the samples. I recommend wash the samples with water after fixation and storing in ethanol 70%.
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I am looking to measure vessel length in the roots of young Banksia seedlings (~5 months old), but I am stuck for how I may approach this. I have read several different approaches, however most methods/studies have performed these analyses on older plants and more commonly on stem material, not root. The roots of my seedlings will be very small in diameter.
If anyone has any suggestions, or has done these measurements on young material before (particularly roots), it would be great to hear from you!
Thanks, Melissa.
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Hi Melissa,
measuring vessel length in roots in quite similar as measuring it in shoots.
Tyree has revisited this topic recently. See for instance: 
Pan, R., Geng, J., Cai, J., & Tyree, M. T. (2015). A comparison of two methods for measuring vessel length in woody plants. Plant, cell & environment, 38(12), 2519-2526.
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How to color the phloem and the xylem of the citrus stem for a microscopic observation. Thank you
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Depending on what you are trying to do, you might want to try looking into a Safranine/Alcian blue combination. Lignified tissue will stain red while the remainder will stain blue.
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before I start trying to dissect out the lateral meristems of my plants  to use in tissue culture, i'd like to know what it looks like. All I see online are cross sectional micro-graphs of the apical meristems.  does anyone have photos or know where I can find some?  thanks steve
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nice photos...thx steve
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Hi researchers,
Trichomes or plant hairs are present on leaf, stem and fruits those are very small, transparent and present very densely. So it is difficult to count those directly under microscope. please advise some pre-treatments or protocols for counting them easily and accurately.
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Thanks for answering @ Urszula Zajączkowska. But there is a lot  of difference between trichomes & stomata counts in leaf sample. So the above link wont provide me enough help.
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I am working on fruit anatomy of genus Echinophora (Apiaceae) that includes some fruits with woody tissues. Can anyone help me with providing a detailed fruit hand section or microtome section protocol for both woody and non woody fruits?
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I recomend hystoresin embedding kit. Woody structures are hard to cut, and the parafin embedding is not good for this purpose. I'm not sure if cryosectioning is a good technique for woody fruits.
Hystoresin is expensive, but is very good for both woody and non woody fruits. I have had good results with it. The sections can be very thin.
The protocol is detailed with the product.
You will need a rotative microtome.
The classical literature about plant anatomy methods is in:
Johansen, D.A. 1940. Plant microtechnique. New York: Mc Graw-Hill Book.
I recommend this book too, because it has succinct protocols:
Kraus, J.E.; Arduin, M. 1997. Manual básico de técnicas em Anatomia Vegetal. Rio de Janeiro: Edur.
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How can measure leaf age or leaf longevity or longevity of whole plant ( for one plant and Plant community)?
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Dear Elham Maghsoodi 
Leaf life span and plant phenology are central elements in strategies for plant carbon gain and nutrient conservation. Although few studies have found that leaf life span correlate with the patterns of leaf dynamics and reproductive output, but there have not been sufficient conclusive tests for relationships between leaf life span and plant phenological traits, the forms and strengths of such relationships are poorly understood. This study was conducted with 49 herb and shrub species collected from the eastern portion of the Tibetan Plateau and grown together in a common garden setting. We investigated leaf life span, the periods of leaf production and death, the time lag between leaf production and death, and the period of plant reproduction (i.e., flowering and fruiting). Interspecific relationships of leaf life span with leaf dynamics and reproduction period were determined. Leaf production period was far longer than leaf death period and largely reflected the interspecific variation of leaf life span. Moreover, leaf life span was positively correlated with the length of reproduction (i.e., flowering and fruiting) period. These relationships were generally consistent across different subgroups of species (herbs vs. shrubs) and indicate potentially widely applicable relationships betweenLLS and aboveground phenology. We concluded that leaf life span is associated not simply with the dynamics of the leaf itself but with reproduction period. The results demonstrate a plant trade‐off in resource allocation between production and reproduction and a coordinated arrangement of leaves, flowers, and fruits in their time investmen
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root and stem samples for short term storage, prior to sectioning
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Juliano and Hanan are right! The question is not correct. But you may put these stems and roots in a  polietilene bag and then - in a refrigerator at + 4 degree of Centigrade.
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What are the physical properties of stems that make the reliable for bending other are breaking easily,. 
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At a gross level, mechanical strength is a function of dry matter/length of the stem.  This indirectly also accounts for the diameter.  Within the dry matter, proportion of cellulose is main determinant of strength.  Although not separately published, it is described in brief in the attached documents.
Fig. 8 in the attached patent contains valuable information on contribution of different maize stalk parts to mechanical strength.
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Hi all,I have two questions:
1) I need to fix the potato tissues without disrupting the cell walls and using non-organic solvents, anyone has any experiences on plant tissue fixative?
2) what would be the non-enzymatic starch removal protocol?
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Dear Fatemeh Babaei, after your kind personal message via RG I understand now better. If my "extempore" really / in fact was helpful I shall be glad and again should state that there is no "general fixative" for most of the problems in Natural or Life Sciences we have to solve.. (:-)). But, hopefuly, you'd be willing to state some more detail...? Best wishes and regards, Wolfgang
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If one has to describe a new species and he has multiple specimens one of them would be the holotype. Should he/she describe the new species based on the holotype or write a description that encapsulates all the variation present at that time in all the available specimens? 
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Dear Sayed,
The description should not only be based on the holotype but all other specimens cited in the protologue i.e.  isotypes and paratypes as well.
Let me explain you the situation. Suppose someone  has designated a flowering specimen as the holotype and its duplicate as isotype. A months later he collected a fruiting specimen and cited it as the paratype in the protologue. It is logical that the  description of the fruiting specimen will also be included in the protologue.
Hope this helps.
Subir.
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I use the SPAD method for analise chlorophyll content in leaves. There a same method for analise chlorophyll content in stem?
There an especific instrument or not?
I can use colorimetry in this case?
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I  tried to measure chlorophyll content in stems using SPAD, it was unsuccessful because of high stem thickness. Stem chlorophyll content can be measured through colorimetry but need to express on weight basis.
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I'm trying to understand the difference between cellulose and lignin in regards to the pyrolysis of organic materials.
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Cellulose is an insoluble substance which is the main constituent of cell walls and of vegetable fibres. Chemically it is a polysaccharide consisting of chains of glucose monomers. Lignin on the other hand side is an organic substance binding the cells fibres and vessels which constitute wood. Lignin is an adaptation to terrestrial habit. Cellulose and lignin are the most abundant renewable carbon sources on Earth. Lignin is highly resistant to decomposition.
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In a morphometric variability study of montane shrub species populations, which I have just launched, leaf shape would be quite a promising character. Although commonly used in such studies, leaf shape is often analysed as actually a set of individual “shape-describing” linear traits and their ratios, leaf area and perimeter. But still, each of these traits is treated by the analysis as an individual independent variable. Thus, I am looking for a high-precision method to measure and analyse leaf shape as a single whole.
The supposed algorithm is following: on the photographed or scanned leaf images, a number of control points are placed along the leaf outline in a computer program. The program then analyses the differences between leaf outlines based on these points, resulting in numerical/graphical representation of the leaf shape variation.
Having reviewed some literature, I found that this can be done by so-called Elliptic Fourier leaf shape analysis using R statistics. Has anyone dealt with such kind of analysis? Is it applicable for within-species population studies? This analysis can be carried out by any of numerous algorithms, so did anybody compare their effectiveness? Also, are there any easier-to-use substitutes for this method? I would be grateful for recommending a relevant statistics and software, some manuals and publications.
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Fourier shape analysis is quite common in fisheries studies where fish can be classified into groups by the shape of the otolith (ear bone). Momocs is a really neat package in R for this and the user guide should give you some good ideas on how to start.
regards,
james 
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which physiological process does the wild species of our food crops had, C3 / C4 / CAM physiology ?
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The most common metabolic pathway for photosynthesis is C3. C4 and CAM metabolisms are thought to be an evolution of the C3 pathway.
You may choose your species according to the environment you live. In certain environments C4 are more efficient than C3 or CAM. For instance, the water use efficiency (i.e. amount of carbohydrates produced per unit of water) is definitely higher in CAM plants compared to C4 and C3, respectively. This means that you would probably choose CAM plants in arid environments.
Wild species did not change their photosynthetic pathway due to a direct connection with domestication. They were likely to change their metabolism because of a change in their original environment, which could have been due to domestication or to other factors (e.g. colonization).
I hope I was helpful.
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The plant is a small tree with imparipinnate compound, glabrous leaves. The bark is grey. Fruits are 4-loculed or by abortion of 2 ovules/seeds they produce 2 seeds. The plant is growing in Australia. 
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Sapindaceae?
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I don't have any idea about dyes >> so If anyone can help me..
I need dye for only carbohydrate in microalgae ..
Thank you
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PAS and you can review the book 
Pearse AGE. 1985. Histochemistry: Theoretical and Applied. Vol. 2: Analytical Technology. Edinburgh: Churchill-Livingstone. 1055 p.
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One particular type of floral guide and flower colour patterns is a dark center. I want to collect ideas about dark centers in flowers. I am aware of a few studies suggesting dark centers mimic potential mates like bombylid flies in Gorteria diffusa, and glaphyrid beetles in Papaver rhoeas. In the wild carrot the central black flower mimics a gall and helps to prevent egg-laying of gall midges. In some perfume Stanhopea orchids it has been hypothesized that dark spots mimic nest entrances which for some reason are attractive to perfume collection orchid bee males.
Is they anything known about the function of dark spots in the flowers of Thunbergia alata, Rudbeckia sp., Vicia faber, some Hibiscus spp., Swainsonia formosa, Tuberaria guttata, Physalis peruviana, Micranthes melanocentra, Aristolochia grandiflora, Iris tuberosa, and others.
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Dear Ekaterina,
The suggested 3D effect is a good idea. Many flowers are darker in the center than in the periphery.
I don't know whether humans like spiral shape. If so it may have to do with the so-called golden ratio of picture composition. But this is just an idea.
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For root staining, the soil is desiccated until the plant wilts, the shoot is cut and a dye solution is injected into the roots with (Murakami et al. 2006, Soil Science and Plant Nutrition, 52: 618-622) or without pressure (Holzapfel & Alpert 2003, Oecologia 134: 72-77). I am considering root staining as a method to identify the roots of individual plants growing in mixtures. The method shall be applied in a pot experiment on interspecific belowground interactions of herbaceous forest plants. As there are only few publications concerning the method, I would like to find out more about its realization, reliability and applicability.
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Hi Lars,
Thank you for your answer!
Following the method of Murakami and colleagues (2006), the principle of this method is the driving of a dye solution in a shoot-to-root direction by increasing the water potential of the shoot (supplying a dye solution) and decreasing the water potential of the soil through desiccation. Thus, the dye percolates downwards trough the root. After staining, the soil is heated (to prevent discoloration of the roots during cleaning) and roots are washed or a soil core is taken. In this case, staining is performed to distinguish the roots of different plant individuals.
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At regular intervals, I measured the total number of fully extended leaves, the length and width of the last fully extended leaf and the sheath length. In addition, I know the total number of plants per unit area. Could you help me with a pragmatic equation to use for calculating leaf area index at regular intervals? Any recent study in east-africa or any tropics on this issue?
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You can use the equation given by Montgomery (1911) to calculate leaf area of maize from leaf length and width measurements:
LA =  L* W * A
 where LA, L, W, and A are leaf area, leaf length, leaf maximum width and a constant , respectively.  The value of the constant (A) is 0.75.  Once you calculate the total leaf area of all plants in a given area, you can calculate the LAI as the ratio of total leaf area  to the total land area available to the plants.  For tropical maize you can refer to Elings (2000).  You can also refer to the following sources for more information.
Mokhtarpour, Teh,H.C.B.S., Saleh, G., Selamat, A.B, Asadi, M.E., Kamkar, B., 2010. Non-destructive estimation of maize leaf area, fresh weight, and dry weight using leaf length and leaf width. Communications in Biometry and Crop Science 5 (1):  19–26.
Dwyer, L.M., Stewart, D.W. (1986). Leaf area development in field-grown maize. Agronomy Journal 78, 334–343.
Elings, A. (2000). Estimation of leaf area in tropical maize. Agronomy Journal 92, 436–444.
McKee, G.W. (1964). A coefficient for computing leaf area in hybrid corn. Agronomy Journal 56, 240–241.
Montgomery E. G. 1911. Correlation studies in corn. Nebraska Agr. Exp. Sta. Annu. Rep. 24:108-159.
Pearce, R.B., Mock, J.H., Bailey, T.B. (1975). Rapid method for estimating leaf area per plant in maize. Crop Science 15, 691–694.
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The tree leaves has very aromatic smell.
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The second photo is Blepharis maderaspatensis (L.) B.Heyne ex Roth (Acanthaceae) and third Photo looks like a Cyphostemma setosum (Roxb.) Alston (vitaceae)
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I have studied an area of rain forest which presents a strong gradient of variation in soil moisture and nutrient, established in a short distance (150 - 200 meters). After the florestal inventory were detected three distinct plants communities, varying strongly across the environmental gradient - 1) A floodable plain forest in a organic soil; 2) Intermediary assembly located in a soil with a steep slope; and 3) a dry forest located in the highest place, with poor white sand soil.
For now, i intend to investigate anatomical and functional traits, searching for common patterns that could explain the establishment of these plant assemblies.
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If the gradient is strong enough in your system, you should be able to find a zonation of some plant functional and anatomical traits. In that case, I would look for different growth rates, contrasting production and/or presence of fleshy tissues and leaf-structures, contrasting production of below-ground structures, presence of water storage structures.. However, independently of whatever you may find, you will have to have in mind conducting experiments to determine whether the correlation between soil characteristics and plant traits have a cause-effect association. Correlation does not imply causation per se. So, the finding of a given pattern won´t "explain" the causes that regulate the establishment of the species you find; it only will give you a clue about it. It will help you to design a better experiment.
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i want to standardize a plant that potentially use as herbal drug, for macroscopic identity, i should measuring the length of the leaves. so, there any sampling method for standardize the length of the leaf? i mean how much leaves that minimum i should take for the measurement
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Morphometrics is more complex than length, but an optimal sample size is corresponding to the number of replicates that shows the minimal standard deviation. A plot of standard deviation  versus number of replicates is an empirical way for selecting the correct number. Light is a morphogen as well leaf age and sampling should keep these factors under control. a ref for shape analysis is http://www.fc.up.pt/dmat/engmat/2012/seminario/artigos2012/PedroSilva/Plant%20species%20identification%20using%20digital%20morphometrics:%20A%20review.pdf
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Could we anyhow get AGs out of the precipitate for further analysis in water phase?
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Yes, you can wash the proteins with NaCl and get rid fo the dye !
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Kranz anatomy consists of two morphologically and functionally distinct types of photosynthetic cells. They are the bundle sheath (bs) cells, which surround the vascular centres, and the mesophyll (mp) cells, which surround the bs cells beneath the leaf epidermis. Does vacular system of maize leaf midrib possess Kranz (or wreath) structure? Does the vascular in midribs also surrounded by bundle sheath cells and mesophyll cells?
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According to my microscopic  observation, the vasculars of the maize midrib  have no Kranz structure. The vascular is like those in the stem. Not only in maize, the vascular bundles of the rice midrib are like those in the stem, and  unlike those in lateral veins.Of course, Rice is not a Kranz type plant.
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Are there set basis for the developmental stages of poricidal anthers? What anatomic or morphologic structures should I use as landmark? I am studying Medinilla species of the Family Melastomataceae.
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Dear Almeera, 
I found in "Comparative embryology of flowering plants", Leningrad, 1985, for Medinilla mannii  one layed anther wall at maturity, with exothecium only (it have thick walls), without endothecium, (p.94, fig. 5), no fibrous thickening, tapetum is secretory, one-nuclear, middle layers ephemeral. Before opening, two camera of a theca unite (for all species). If it will be useful for you, I can make a copy from a book pages with citations, studied species and figure.
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This is for a review paper so it would help that the topic is well-studied. 
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Dear Michaela,
Following points could be studied:
1. Type of Plant-Ant association and specificity/preference
2. Types of biochemicals secreted by both the partners and their response upon each other
3. Synergistic effect of this interaction upon other organisms and vice versa
4. Evolutionary significance (structural and functional)
5. Co-evolutionary mechanisms
etc.
Best Wishes,
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I have X-ray tomography images of a vascular tissue consisting of multiple conduits arranged parallel to each other. The conduits are tracheids that have tapered endings. When visualized in VG Studio Max 2.2, the lengths of the tracheids seem to be different when viewed in the xz and yz plane. That is probably because the tissues are not arranged parallel to the plane being used to view the slices but are rather arranged at some angle. How do I estimate the lengths of these tracheids accurately using either VG Studio or Avizo Fire?
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interesting, I would like to see these images !!, I've worked with plant fibers in TEM
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Hello! Does anybody know if cortex of Acer pseudoplatanus contains laticifers (see photo - longitudinal section of root stained with safranine-astra blue - big cells with unsclerified cell walls, some content inside).
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DEar Tanja, according to photo of leaves it is  Acer pseudoplatanus. Maybe the content , shown in long cells represent  some kind of mucilage, which is very common excret of roots  of many plants. However, i have to check the monography of maples what I promissed but  forgotten.
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The aim of the study is to compare montane and lowland populations of a plant species with respect to leaf anatomy. The montane populations also include those situated on different altitudes. I collected 25 plant individuals from each population on a defined area: the whole plants as a herbarium material as well as the shoots with leaves (3 vegetative and 3 flower-terminated ones from each individual) as alcohol-fixed material. The plant is small-leaved and each individual contains dozens of leaves on both types of shoots.
Now the question is how many leaves of each individual to analyze anatomically and how many measurements of each particular quantitative trait (e.g., size and density of stomata, hairs, leaf thickness and size, etc.) to take from each leaf? Also, what would be the statistical methods most suitable to use in such a study? Thanks in advance.
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Hi, I can give you some advice coming from my experience. Good sampling is very important; I assume the plant is herbaceous? It is crucial to collect individuals growing in the similar environmental condition and take leaves from the same part of the plant. In our studies we sample 10 leaves per individual and 30 individuals per population (so 25 should be OK). If you need inter-individual variation, you should analize at least 10 leaves - and if you expect differences between vegetative and flowering shoots, you would need 10 leaves od each type of shoots (5 should be enough if you have many samples). This is important to choose leaves from the same part of a shoot - the middle is the best usually, with fully developed leaves. One measurement of each trait from every leaf. You can find examples in the papers (you will see there statistical methods also):
Boratyńska K., Jasińska A.K., Ciepłuch E. 2008. Effect of tree age on needle morphology and anatomy of Pinus uliginosa and Pinus silvestris – species-specific character separation during ontogenesis. Flora - Morphology Distribution Functional Ecology of Plants 11/2008; 203(8-203):617-626. DOI:10.1016/j.flora.2007.10.004
Boratyńska K., Boratyński A. 2007. Taxonomic differences among closely related pines Pinus sylvestris, P. mugo, P. uncinata, P. rotundata and P. uliginosa as revealed in needle sclerenchyma cells. Flora - Morphology Distribution Functional Ecology of Plants 09/2007; 202(7):555-569. DOI:10.1016/j.flora.2006.11.004 ·
Marcysiak K. 2012. Variation of leaf shape of Salix herbacea in Europe. Plant Systematic and Evolution 298: 1597-1607.
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I am working on a staining protocol for Rhododendron leaves (I have attached a general schedule). There have been materials that I have found saying to leave samples in for a few minutes, while others suggest 3+ hours. Most materials, however, did not use leaves as their samples. When I tried 3 hours there was too much stain, but many materials suggest these extended periods. I tried 2 minutes and they seemed sufficiently stained, but I have not worked with this stain before so I am not completely sure. Are they not spending enough time in the ethanol washes, or should they be left in the stain for only a few minutes? I am not interested in seeing cytoplasm and organelles, target structures are vascular bundles and general structure.
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Yes I have the article! I was able to download it through my school's journal network. I've attached pictures of a 10 micron thick section where I removed the paraffin first and then stained for 2 minutes, with and without fluorescence. It is a scleriferous evergreen leaf that is thick and fibrous. The second set of pictures are thin deciduous leaves from the same batch. Thank you for the input, I really appreciate it! 
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For the purpose of laser capture, I am taking infected Arabidopsis root tissues. First I collect the samples in Ethanol:Acetic Acid (3:1) and then replace the solution with 30% sucrose solution. After that I embed them in OCT and use for cryosectioning. But the morphology of sections indicates that they have shrunken. Is there any solution to maintain tissue morphology?
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Carnoy's fixative is not suitable for any delicate tissue or organ, usually it is recommended for probes intended for staining of chromatin or chromosomes. Root is built of strongly vacuolated cells that shrink easily at any disturbance of osmotic pressure - try some fixative used for ultrastructure and dehydrate the probes gradually
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We were not successful using Toluidine blue staining.
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post-embedding staining of epoxy sections is difficult, most protocols do not work
standard staining is methylene blue + azure A mixed on a slide put on a hot plate, lignified walls are green, protein-rich parts are blue, and if the probe is OsO4-postfixed, tannin-like compounds are black
there is also a very nice staining with safranin, but it starts at probe dehydratation and does not work well with osmificated probes: add a few drops per vial of stock safranin while in etOH 70%, leave probes for a few days in closed vials, complete the protocol, additionally stain sections - and carefully - with VERY DILUTED methylene blue + azure A; lignified walls + phenolics in vacuoles are brightly red, everything else is blue or blue-green
the safranin idea is from: Baroni Fornasiero R, Bianchi A, Pinetti A. 1998. Anatomical and  ultrastructural observations in Hypericum perforatum L. leaves. Journal of Herbs, Spices and Medicinal Plants 5: 21–33 and my results you can see in Botanical Journal of the Linnean Society, 2010, 163, 70–86.
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Thank you for kind answers.
Junho
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Roots are used to uptake water (among other things) from the soil, therefore the closer proximity to the exterior by the xylem provides a more efficient means of transporting water through the epidermis and into the vascular tissue.
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I still do research about mucilage from Hibiscus rosa-sinensis L. leaves but i still lack information about its mucilage.I hope people in here can help me to give literatures about it. Thanks all
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There is link to follow publication:
Tomoda, M., Gonda, R., Shimizu, N, Nakanishi, S., Hikino, H. 1987. A mucilage from Hibiscus moscheutos leaves. //Phytochemistry. Vol. 26. P.2297-2300
I hope it will be helpful for you.
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I found this plant in the garden of my friend, I am unable to identify it, please help me in identifying this plant. Its flowers is similar to those of Magnolia. 
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Is Lagunaria petersonia!!!
North-east Queensland, Lord Howe Island and Norfolk Island.
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Hello everyone,
I'm working on an experiment in which we need to know phenolic contents of marine angiosperms (Posidonia oceanica and Cymodocea nodosa). In addition to this variable many others measurements will made, some of which have to be made with fresh material,  so it would be very desirable to delay in time (days or weeks) analysis of the phenolic content. This analysis would be done by extraction in methanol (80%) and subsequent determination with the Folin-Ciocalteu method.   Conservation methods used (in both marine and terrestrial plants) vary widely in literature including  drying (at room T ° or oven), lyophilization, freezing in liquid nitrogen and conservation at -80 ° C, or directly conservation at  -20º.
What conservation treatment would be best suited to ensure optimal measure of phenols in time?
many thanks
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Hello,
You would surely find some answers to your questions in this recent review: 
Assessing the response of plant flavonoids to UV radiation: an overview of appropriate techniques
Julkunen-Tiitto et al. Phytochem Rev (2015) 14:273–297
DOI 10.1007/s11101-014-9362-4
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Hello everyone, 
I'm researching leaf veination architecture, specifically leaf vein density (LVD), where I need to be able to take high resolution photos of leaves. An article posted by one of the leading authors in this field wrote a paper (Price, et al. 2014) illustrating that because your software's analysis (be it LeafGUI or ImageJ or whatever you choose) will improve with increasing photo resolution there should be a minimum requirement that needs to be met for your data to be accurate enough. They provide a formula to calculate this minimum requirement stating that,
"When a digital camera is employed to acquire images, the image size must be sufficiently large such that there are at least two pixels in the image spanning a distance equal to the magnified resolving power of the microscope."
The formula they propose is 2/(Mdmin) 
Where
M=magnification
dmin=resolving power=λ0/NA
Where 
λ0= mean wavelenth of light (assumed to be 0.53 um for white light)
NA=numerical aperature of the objective lens
My question is; is this formula translatable to a non-microscope imager such as a scanner or a DSLR camera?
Thank you for your time,
Victoria K.
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Hi Victoria,
You should find the answers to all your questions in Sack et al. 2014 Plant Phys. LVD is NOT scale dependent as Price et al suggest (their results are due to artifacts from theLeafGUI software which gives highly inaccurate results; this is explained in depth by Sack et al 2014). You need high enough resolution to actually see all the veins (to measure minor VLA you will need microscope images). For major veins, scanner is fine (for most species). In all cases your leaves have to be chemically cleared. There is a protocol online in Prometheus that explains how to clear leaves, and images veins. (Quantifying leaf vein traits, by Scoffoni&Sack; an updated version of this with more detail should come out soon on the wiki).  We use ImageJ to trace/measure VLA.
Best,
Christine
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I'm planning to collect Xylem Sap from Populus euphratica stem (5-7mm diameter), pressure use by XYL’EM embolism Meter, for analyzing Na+ and Cl− ions.  Is there any accurate & simple method for sap collection? 
Thank you for your suggestions.
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Hi,
yes the vaccuum extraction method work fine for species with medium size vessels (not for conifers, not for ring porous). 
A good and easy alternative is the 'sap displacement' method: perfuse your segment with a colored solution (like Phloxine or eosine, but NOT Safranine !!!) under low pressure (10 kPa) and collect the sap flowing out of the distal segment. The colored solution will displace the xylem sap. Stop collecting when you see the colored solution flowing out.
Hope you enjoy your Xyl'em apparatus ;-) 
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I have represent some plants using branches's ratio and angles with the L-system fractal. These plants belongs to same species but they are different hybrids. So i classified them into two groups. Hybrid 1 and Hybrid 2.
Hybrid 1 group includes these images:
Hybrid 2 group includes those images:
The idea now is to somehow calculate a similarity index to see if images of the same group differs from the images of the other group.
There are lot of topics for image similarity as also and many protocols and methods but i could't find something comparing images like these.
I read about Structural Similarity Index (SSIM) , SIFT technique , Euclidean distance, Mahalonbis distance  but i can't decide which one is the right one for my case.
I think that maybe SSIM method might work but if anyone has a different idea or any hint to give me i will be thankful 
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Hi Nick Fi,
Please try Dynamic Time Warping((DTW)  for image similarity index. Its a wonderful similarity technique.
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Sometime leaf of the seedling or sapling stages are found compound and, turns into simple when they adult e.g. Artocarpus chama, Artocarpus heterophyllus etc. Although, the evolution and development of leaf architectures are varies with geographic, climatic and edaphic factors. It is not clear that, whether  adaptation for fast growth during favourable, or either during unfavourable conditions brings such modifications.  Even, we do not have quantitative data to conclude that simple leaf bearing trees are abundant or compound leaf bearing trees are abundant in Tropical forest. 
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There are two likely explanations that immediately come to mind with this question. Firstly, seedings and saplings of forest tree species are at a competitive disadvantage in terms of light harvesting in the understorey. While the leaves of some species are simply larger during the early phases of development, other species may increase the surface area of the leaf by producing compound forms to increase photosynthetic efficiency. Secondly, compound leaves can be beneficial to a sapling if the plant is attacked by insect predators. If a simple leaf is being eaten, it is likely the whole leaf will be lost before the plant can stimulate production of secondary compounds in defense. In compound leaves, insect attack on a single leaflet can stimulate defense mechanisms which might allow the remaining leaflets on the leaf blade to be protected. This is important in terms of conserving energy.
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I have no direct measurement, but tree trunks and branches seem to me a lot more important in terms of reserves for their position and size relative to roots.
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I do  agree  with Riccardo
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I am looking for information on some variables or  flower parts  of cultivated plants or (crops)  and for making comparisons across crops possible I need to find scaled drawings or some attached information on sizes for reference
Any advice is welcome.
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I have observed what appears to be glandular trichomes on the coastal sand dune shrub Iva imbricata.  I hypothesize that these trichomes function to exudate salt that may enter the leaves through mechanical injury and salt spray.  I'm looking for a method to (a) isolate the trichomes and (2) determine if the exudate is indeed salty.
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I am looking for photos and drawings of cross - sectional area of rhizomes of the following species:
1. Broadleaf cattail Typha latifolia
2. Reed sweet grass Glyceria maxima
3. Common reed Phragmites australis
4. Sweet flag Acorus calamus.
I can not find them anywhere. I need drawings with marked names of plant tissues (especially such as sclerenchyma, collenchyma and similar).
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Hello, Kindly go through enclosed articles fully.All the best.
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I am looking for photos and drawings of cross - sectional area of rhizomes of the following species: 1. Broadleaf cattail Typha latifolia 2. Reed sweet grass Glyceria maxima 3. Common reed Phragmites australis 4. Sweet flag Acorus calamus. I can not find them anywhere. I need drawings with marked names of plant tissues (especially such as sclerenchyma, collenchyma and similar),
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HÉRAIL (Joseph), BONNET (Valère) - Manipulations de botanique médicale et pharmaceutique - Iconographie histologique des plantes médicinales. Paris : Librairie J.B. Baillière et Fils 1891 320 p, 36 pl describes the rhizome of Acorus calamus
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I am looking for one good paper that tells about the increase of size and numbers of vascular bundle during tissue culture. My study was in regeneration of Lily bulblets from scale explants.
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Hello, I read one article related to your query that is,
         "The high concentration of GA3 increased the size of the midrib and its vascular bundle numbers. Both low and high concentrations of 2,4-D inhibited the formation of the midrib. 2,4-D in both low and high concentrations decreased the number of vessels in both protoxylem and metaxylem and also decreased their diameters, where as GA3 in low and high concentrations have less effect on the number of vessels and its diameters."
Go through the attached articles that may very useful to you.
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Finding leaf area and leaf area index is an important aspect of crop estimation in foliafe yeilding crops like mulberry there fore please letme know how to calculate leaf are using ImageJ, also please let me know how to calculate leaf area index
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Frank provided a great explanation for easy and accurate LAI measurement.
However, if you want discrete leaf area using imagej, you have to use a plane image of a leaf (using a flat scanner for example), knowing your image scale (you can draw a linear segment of 5 cm next to the leaf). 
Using the straight line tool you can outline the scale, then click Analyze > Set scale... This box will help you to tell imagej how long in cm your straight line is. Then you just have to threshold your image and do a particular analysis to know the area in cm2. I attach a small tutorial (in french language) I had made for interns, hope it helps!
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I am studying the anatomy of leaves and stems of that plant. I could not find many articles that address the issue. Could anyone help me on that? I would be very grateful.
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Oh, thank you all so much!
Believe, you all helped me in different ways.
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I plan to measure some physiological parameter of different root parts, and I think beside the root weight the root surface would be the most adequate index to normalize the values.
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E.g. WinRhizo software can be very useful...
Anyway, check whether the roots or root segments in question have developed root hairs, it can change dramatically the real root surface...
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I already tried embedding tomato stems and tomato pedicels in paraffin, to then cut and colour them for microscopic analysis. However, while this is ok for leaf material, the stem material seems to be to tough to cut, causing the slides to tear/crack whilst cutting. I don't know if other techniques, common for wood samples, can be used?
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