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Planning to conduct some research on Mars and Venus. Targeting tectonic/large scale structural features on Venus and potential mineralisation areas on Mars. What are the available (preferably free of cost and reliable) data sources?
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All you need is here: PDS Geosciences Node https://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/
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Need weight of each component and their dimensions, also mass and velocity data of any of ion bombardment thrusters ( otherwise any other thruster data too is welcome )?
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You can look at the literature for the material and dimension of such thruster and make a 3D geometry in software like Solidworks to get the exact data.
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Supposedly Pioneer 10 will fly to the nearest Alfa Centauri constellation for about 10,000 years.
Will humanity manage to build a new generation of space ships that will be able to overcome such huge distances in the galaxy many times faster?
When could this happen?
Please, answer, comments. I invite you to the discussion.
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Dear Yoshinari Minami,
Thanks for answering the question:
If and when will humans be able to explore other planetary systems?
Thank you very much for providing interesting publications describing important issues of the discussed issues.
Thank you, Regards,
Dariusz Prokopowicz
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Can anybody please share the IDL source code for Hapke photometric modeling?
Thank you,
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Hi! I don't know if it would help but this article is about hapke modeling calculations with IDL.
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Insoluble organic matter residues are the remaining insoluble organic material after extreme acid digestion of the extraterrestrial material. They contain complex morphologies that exist as either: isolated spherical compounded shapes; hollow spherical objects or irregular (non spherical) shapes which internally often contain the same conglomeration of spherical features. Please see attached DF STEM images of some of these morphologies from two organic rich carbonaceous chondrites. As the residues are a product of the removal of surrounding mineralogy (i.e. context in situ is lost), connected features on the submicron to micron scale in the images, by approximation, should only be considered. Thanks!   
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Kenneth:....brough in living organism? Panspermia? 
   Unfortunately meteorites travel in space where they are irradiated by galactic cosmic rays . This irradiation generate cosmogenic nuclides that allow first to estimate  the flight times of meteorites in space (exposure ages). They are too long to allow ''bugs'' to survive, in particular those of.... Martian meteorites. In fact, remember my first comment: they will just increase the concentration of....kerogen in the meteorites.
   I knew about the results of experiments conducted by colleagues with beam of heavy ions (accelerator Ganil in France) on various types of carbonaceous materials, while using fluencies that correspond to the cosmic rays exposure ages of meteorites. We concluded that we are well protected from panspermia, because all bugs end up as kerogen. But what's about the fate of the carbon of...kerogen??
   Optimistic conclusions were inferred from the irradiation of various forms of life that survived after being exposed on board  of the space station. But these exposures were much smaller than those suffered by a chunk of Martian meteorite. So they are irrelevant.
   About Carbon on Mars, I just increased the difficulty of answering your question, when I realized that I have to know about the date of the impact of the last planetary embryo that accreted the planet.
Remember that English is not my native language, and my text is not corrected.
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What is the equation that relates the temperature at the surface of the mars as a function of time and position?
 is there any thing else that would help me?
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Mohamed,
There is no simple equation.
You have radiative input (sunlight), convective transfer (wind), and conduction (loss or gain from the subsurface).
If you know the thermal conductivity of the regolith, its heat capacity, then you can make a 1D model based on radiative forcing.
Sadly there aren't many (any!) vertical measures of either of those thermal properties from actual probes and estimates have been made based on the thermal lag that regions have when viewed with orbiting radiometers.
But why re-invent the wheel?
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As we know about NEXT ion thruster developed by NASA and simulate thrusters by different organizations, they have a common design technique-  a bombardment region which releases ions for thrust ( known as anode) and a sprayer system known as cathodic neutralizer. So how do I calculate mass flow rate from both of them ( mass output from them) to produce thrust or are their any specific calculations or specifications or values already present about previously developed ion thrusters mass flow rate ?
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Chakshu,
There are plenty of data for the mass flow rates of various thrusters - they are generally calculated given a fixed head of pressure and a flow geometry. I recall that Watson's paper from the 1988 IEPC went into a lot of detail about this for the UK-10 ion thruster,
The best approach is to simply contact the developer of the devices.
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Good day!
Tell me please PC software, allowing you to monitor the situation in astronomical solar system, galaxy.
I have the phone programme Planetarium. Unfortunately I cannot find it for PC. Perhaps there is a site where you can some things to do.
Dolia Vadym.
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It would help to understand why you want to know this. E.g. The Solar System's barycentre is within 1 million kilometers of the surface of the Sun. If you are concerned with interstellar (galactic) distances, that is trivial, for interplanetary distances it might be relevant depending on the need. Do you mean Apogee or Aphelion of the planets? Etc..
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I want to model transient liquid water on subsurface Mars, and want a more accurate result with realistic Mars conditions.
The only closest information I can find is:
Perchlorate on Mars: a chemical hazard
and a resource for humans by Alfonso F. Davila
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Curiosity's deepest drilling was 5 cm (as initially planned).
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I'm looking for algae that could survive in extreme environment conditions, such as:
  1. Low atmospheric pressure
  2. High level of perchlorates in soil
  3. Water boils at +10oC (because of low pressure)
  4. Rarefied atmosphere
  5. Low solar energy level
  6. High radiation level 
Maybe someone knows any good publications or books about the algae that can survive in extreme conditions? 
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About the survival of microorganisms in the Martian subsurface please look up the articles available on this ResGate:
1. Article: Time Machine: Ancient Life on Earth and in the Cosmos (feature article)
N. S. Duxbury, S. S. Abyzov, S. Imura, H. Kanda, I. N. Mitskevich, A. L. Mulyukin, T. Naganuma, M. N. Poglazova, M. V. Ivanov,
Eos Transactions American Geophysical Union 01/2006; 87(39) DOI:10.1029/2006EO390001
2. Article: Super-long anabiosis of ancient microorganisms in ice and terrestrial models for development of methods to search for life on Mars, Europa and other planetary bodies,
S. S. Abyzov, N. S. Duxbury, N. E. Bobin, M. Fukuchi, R. B. Hoover, H. Kanda, I. N. Mitskevich, A.L. Mulyukin, T. Naganuma, M. N. Poglazova, M. V. Ivanov,
Advances in Space Research 01/2006; DOI:10.1016/j.asr.2005.05.034
3. Article: A combination of radar and thermal approaches to search for methane clathrate in the Martian subsurface,
N S Duxbury, S S Abyzov, V E Romanovsky, K Yoshikawa,
Planetary and Space Science 01/2004; 52:109-115. DOI:10.1016/j.pss.2003.08.006
4. A numerical model for an alternative origin of Lake Vostok, Antarctica and its exobiological implications for Mars
N. S. Duxbury, I. A. Zotikov, K. H. Nealson, V. E. Romanovsky, F. D. Carsey,
Journal of Geophysical Research Atmospheres 01/2001; 106:1453-1462. DOI:10.1029/2000JE001254
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Methane Pluming has been characterized on the Mars surface by NASA scientists? May that evidence be related to the presence of methanogens under the soil?
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We wrote that methanogens is one of the options. Please read our article, which is fully available here on the RG :
Article:
N. S. Duxbury, S S Abyzov, V E Romanovsky, K Yoshikawa
A combination of radar and thermal approaches to search for methane clathrate in the Martian subsurface, 2004, Planetary and Space Science , 52,p. 109--115.
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I seldom find very disparate values for the orbital elements and other parameters of the Solar System planets and satellites, depending on the source.
Where could we found the most updated and accurate values?
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The central repository for solar-system-object orbital elements is the IAU Minor Planet Center at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory. Their main web page is at:
If you want complete sets of orbital elements, that’s the place to get them. If you want apparent positions of objects for a particular epoch or range of epochs, JPL’s Horizons is definitely a very good place to go.
It should be borne in mind that the vast majority of solar-system objects have highly perturbed orbits, so that the Keplerian orbital elements change significantly with time. JPL Horizons takes this into account for you. If you want a complete set of all elements, the Minor Planet Center is the place to get them, but I am not personally familiar with how they handle the epoch issue. On their main web page near the bottom there is a section named “Large Data Sets” with links to files; probably the MPCAT link is what you want.
I recently retired, but at the time I did, the number of objects was approaching half a million. Back in the early 80s it was just 4000. Today a complete set of elements will involve a file size on the order of 100 MB. To use these elements, you will need a computer program that implements the standard solution of Kepler’s equation and does the appropriate coordinate transformations. The orbits are represented as “osculating ellipses”, basically time-dependent Keplerian orbits in a plane that precesses.
Where I worked for many years, the Caltech IPAC, we have done a number of all-sky infrared surveys, and we need to predict the appearance of all solar-system bodies in our images in order to distinguish them from inertial infrared sources, A description of how this was done is at:
Hope that helps!
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Looking for useful references for planetary volcanism (volcanoes on the Moon, Mars Io, Venus etc). I need them to be as recent as possible.
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Hi Lucas,
There is a relatively new Special Publication of the Geological Society of London (vol. 401) called Volcanism and Tectonism Across the Inner Solar System which may be of interest to you.
Good luck with your work.
Col.
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Dears,
I'm trying to compute probable region of sunglint to use as a mask in the processing of remote sensing data. There are several methods for sunglint flaging using spectral characterizations, but I found only one reference to flag sunglint regions based on observation geometry (Mailhe et al. 2004, attached); that is more suitable for my application, but I'm having a hard time to perform the calculations.
One of the information required is the Earth-Sun unit vector for the epoch of observation; In the calculations of Mailhe et al. 2004, the J2000 Geocentric Celestial Inertial frame (GCI) is used for the computations. One possible source of such data is the NAIF SPICE toolkit (http://naif.jpl.nasa.gov/naif/); what I understood from the documentation is that the implemented J2000 reference frame actually represents the International Celestial Reference Frame (ICRF), that has its origin on the barycenter of the solar system, whereas the GCI J2000 has its origin on the barycenter of Earth. Nevertheless, the documentation also states that all calculations are relative to two selected bodies, with the origin playing a limited role (basically correction). In summary, I could not understand if the data from this source is appropriate for the calculations. The paper from Russel (1971, on the link) show an approximate formulation for GCI (but not J2000) with accuracy that should suffice for this application, but again I'm not sure if this is adequate. Perhaps it does not make much difference if the reference frame is kept constant through the computations?
The radial direction of the pixel center and the radial direction of the satellite must also be calculated. I followed the guidelines provided by Hapgood (1992, attached) to convert geodetic latitude, longitude and altitude from spherical to cartesian representation and them to GEI (which I understood is a synonym to GCI). I assume that this would be compatible with the Earth-Sun vector determination of Russel; nevertheless, the SPICE toolkit could also be used for these transformation to keep compatibility of reference frames if the SPICE Earth-Sun vector should be used.
Can anyone provide me with references and/suggestions about the sunglint geometry and Earth-Sun vector calculation?
Best regards,
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Diagram of my how I calculate the specular reflection angle, which is a prerequisite to calculating the glint angle:
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Hi, does anyone know a good source for vertical atmospheric profiles of the main species for Venus (molar fractions of CO2, N2, SO2 vs height), from 0 to 100 km? It can be both measurements and model results.
Thanks a lot in advance! -Andi
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Thanks, Artem! I've glanced over the paper quickly and it is impressive - I think I'll get all my answers from it.
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Solivagant (nomadic) planets are roaming the interstellar space. Depending on the steepness of the mass ditribution law, There may be significantly more substellar objects in the vicinity of the Sun than there are normal stars. A few nearby extremely cool object of super-Jupiter mass have been discovered (e.g., one with WISE). Despite the absence of light, such systems of planetary mass may be teeming with life. According to M. Eubanks, more solivagant planets will be observed in the future with JWST, ALMA and SPICA. My calculations show that the tidal heating of Earth generated by the Moon may presently come up to ~5 TW. A heat source of this order can sustain a massive subsurface ocean on a lonely exoearth for gigayears. The question is, how to observationally verify that nearby solivagant planets rapidly rotate? The spin rate of some stars has been determined photometrically from the modulations caused by persistent features (dark or hot spots) on the photospheres. Would that be the best way to observe the spin of very cold planets? Are there other possibilities?
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If the object has a magnetic field, the frequency and periodicity of radio emission can give a handle on the spin rate.
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When were brought the rock Moon samples, during the Apollo missions, the analysis of the resetting ages showed an unexpected fact. The maximum in the age distribution was at 3.95 Ga. This led some authors to propose that there had been a catastrophic event, about 4 Ga ago, in which a large number of impactors fell on the Moon. This event was called the Late Heavy Bombardment (LHB). Later was attempted to extend this event to other planets, and even the entire solar system. However it is possible that this event never occurred, and that the evidence in favor it is not more than a bias in the data, In the attached file I propose the possibility that the late heavy bombardment is only a bias in the data and not an actual event.
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Dear Hector,
The current LHB discussion or let’s say the understanding of the lunar Impact chronology and the current astronomical models to explain the heavy bombardment now go into a direction similar to your ideas.
The repeated claims that there are no Impact reset lunar rocks older than 3.9 Ga is based on a limited knowledge of the literature published since 1973 (for new data and old references see the paper by Fernandes et al. (2013). You can also find a short review on the lunar Impact chronology and the new views on the orbital evolution of the Solar System in our paper Fritz et al. (2014). Both papers can be downloaded from my Research Gate page.
Lunar chronology: It gets more and more obvious that the initial claims by Baldwin (1974) are in excellent agreement with primary observation from global element maps of the Moon and the knowledge of the lunar meteorites (which come from various random places on the Moon and thus are more representative than the Apollo mission samples). Baldwin (1974) argues that all Apollo missions mainly samples the Imbrium ejecta. This correlates with the global Th element maps of the Moon (KREEP region) and the observation that the Mg-rich suite of Apollo mission samples (a clan of lunar rock types) are both characteristic for the region around Imbrium and are different from all other regions of the Moon.
Astronomical models: The quite popular Nice model (initial version from 2005) explained the brief LHB spike. However it was found that the proposed model would be able to provide a LHB spike but as a drawback would lead to a destabilization of the terrestrial planets. The updated Nice model now assumes a slightly different type of orbital reconfiguration (Jumping Jupiter scenario) which allows for terrestrial planets with stable orbits but could not provide enough Near Earth Objects to explain a LHB spike. And therefore the E-belt model was proposed (Bottke et al. 2012). The people still call this long lasting bombardment LHB besides that it resembles the lunar impact chronology favored by those opposing the LHB.  Or in other words the current astronomical models explain the extended tail of the Heavy bombardment.
In summary, I am cannot judge your math, but your basic claims that the abundance of 3.9 Ga ages is a bias seems to be along the line with what is now going to be main stream understanding of lunar chronology.
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I am trying to verify a three body simulation and for that need actual planetary position data from out solar system, but I cannot find any. I need it in barycentric coordinates, does anyone know where to find such? It would also be ok if they were from another simulation, if this is verified. Thank you in advance!
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Hello,
At http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/ there are, among other information, tools to generate ephemerides of planets and minor bodies of the Solar System.
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 In her book, Influences: Art, Optics, and Astrology in the Italian Renaissance, Mary Quinlan–McGrath uses as one of her examples the Astrological Vault of the Sala dei Pontefici. The original version was commissioned by Leo X and apparently designed by Raphael just prior to his death in 1520. With the Sun located centrally for astrological reasons, the ordering of the remaining celestial bodies is Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. Does anyone know of evidence as to how the sequence for Mercury and Venus was established in this case? The ordering of the planets with respect to their distance from Earth was under considerable discussion at this time.
 
 
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The order of the planets arises from knowledge of their sidereal periods computed by the ancient Babylonians.  They clearly recognized that closer objects closer moved faster while objects further away moved slower.  The initial order of increasing sidereal periods: Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn; the Sun was later placed in the middle of the listing. This order was later adopted by the Greeks, which was acquired, in translation, by Renaissance astronomers.
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Is there a technical reason for not taking the data or the lack of data is due to the lack of interest in the information it might contain?
If you want to study dust disks around nearby stars, there is data from Herschel and Alma in infrared and radio range that enables spectroscopic studies of molecular transitions but there is no data taken at shorter wavelengths to study other kinds of processes. Why is that?
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I agree with you. In order to have emission in visible, in general you need high energy excitation which is usually scattered while in IR you are not seeing atomic but molecular transitions. IR radiation also suffers scattering but strong re-absorption aswell.
Since I am currently working in lanthanides, I was thinking about their unique property to be excited in IR and upconverting light i.e. emitting in visible upon IR excitation (and also in IR). Solid grains surely contain lanthanides but the problem is again scattering. On the other hand, lanthanides exposed directly, closer to the star can be excited both in visible and IR while they can transfer their radiation to farther neighbours in IR range. Those farther ions can again emit in both IR and visible and so on. This way, the energy is a bit more preserved than when you only have downconversion in which radiation is either re-absorbed at the same IR wavelength or re-emitted at lower energies. Would we be able to see anything of that I can not know since I haven't found the data.
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When a reentry vehicle moves fast in the atmosphere, the atmosphere around the vehicle will be ionized due to aerodynamic heat. Sometimes communication blackout may happen. I would like know how the plasma sheath affects the propagation of radio waves. What happens when a radio wave passes the plasma sheath? Will there be a time delay, fading, or noise in the receiving signals? Any related answers will be highly appreciated.
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Plasma is not necessarily a Faraday cage - electromagnetic waves can penetrate the plasma under certain circumstances. It all depends on the plasma frequency of the electrons, which is given by:
w_pl = sqrt[n_e e^2/(m epsilon_0)]
where n_e ... electron density, e ... elementary charge, m ... effective mass of the electrons and epsilon_0 ... vacuum permitivity
an electromagnetic wave can penetrate the plasma if the wave frequency f is higher than the electron plasma frequency. This means that there is a cutoff point at which the electron density becomes high enough to hinder electromagnetic waves from penetrating the plasma.
Hence it is the density of electrons in your sheath which "desides" wether a rf-signal can travel through the plasma.
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Are the chemical reactions that take place on earth really influenced by gravity or are they affected by another planet or satellite around the earth?
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I would say that the gravity-dependence of chemical reactions can be neglected for two reasons:
1) the enthalpy has to be used with a little bit carefullnes in this context. The enthalpy is defined as the energ content of thermodynamical systems. However, this holds for every system, regardless of the occurence of a chemical reaction. If you want to study chemical reactions, you have to use the change of enthalpy dH. This is defined by: dH = TdS + V dp (T being the absolute temperature, dS the change of entropy and V the volume). If you work at constant pressure dp = 0. This is mostly the case, as you have no pressure variation for solids and nearly no variation in liquids or gases (as long as you are not dealing with very large volumes (i.e. some km³ or so).
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2) all chemical reactions are driven by the electrons, or, more generally, by electric forces between charged particles. As the electric force between, say, an electron and a proton, is around forty! orders of magnitude stronger than their gravitational force, one can immediately see that gravitation is neglible compared to electrical forces.
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What are the key elements for C-based complex life?
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Hi Cole, could you provide references for the metalloid theory? thanks, Giovanni
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I understand that we use some sort of spectroscopy of the incident light coming from an explanatory system, but what are the principle techniques behind doing so? Are there any other methods used to detect liquid water other than spectroscopic analysis? I am especially curious about any good published papers that you all might know of pertaining to these mechanisms.
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Spectroscopy of exoplanets requires:
-adaptive optics and either a coronagraph or apodized pupil to separate the planet's light from the host star's light
-a detector with a high dynamic range that can accurately register both faint and bright signals
-large telescopes to collect lots of light.
We have already detected water gas in an exoplanet atmosphere. For an example of spectroscopy of a bright gas giant, see
Another technique you can use to look for liquids on other planets is polarimetry. Light reflected from the surfaces of liquids is polarized. With some information about the temperature of the planet's surface, you can deduce that the liquid is probably water. We don't yet have the sensitivity and light-collecting power to do polarimetry of liquid oceans on other planets. However, we have done polarimetry on gas giants:
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To describe how bright a star seems.
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Oh this was a fantastic answer Paul. I was trying to understand
this redshift for last few months but never had enough time to
dig into the literature.
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The entire universe originated from a single point after the Big Bang. Then how can we explain the time before big bang?
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Within the theoretical regime of the big bang origin of the universe, the big bang defines the beginning of the time. You can call it the time, t = 0. In this formulation, the space and time originated at big bang. You can not conceptualize anything before this kind of a beginning that can be physically verified within the frame work of the laws of Physics. Anything that can not be verified need not exist.
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I feel we need to re evaluate this idea that we have been hearing since we were in high school!
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Well I found something that might of interest.
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10 amino acids were synthesized in the 1953 Miller-Urey experiments. Those 10 amino acids have also been found in meteorites and can create simple prebiotic life. Those 10 amino acids tend to arise at relatively low temperatures and pressures in 2009 Higgs-Pudritz work, and are chemically simple, so, it seems that they are thermodynamically destined to occur wherever they can.
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In my stepwise model for the origin of the genetic code (Thermosynthesis as energy source for the RNA world. Biosystems 82 (2008) 93-102) there would not necessarily have to be a relation between the amino acid concatenated and the triplet code. The genetic code would be a frozen accident, as proposed by Crick in 1968. Hence the genetic code would not have to be universal.
The idea of non-universality seems easy to test by making artificial transfer RNAs by modifying existing transfer RNAs, and observe the composition of newly translated proteins. Maybe the exp has already been done?
As it is, the code is not universal even on Earth; mitochondria use a code that is different for one codon, if I remember it well.
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Is it physically possible for a huge Jupiter-like exoplanet to harbor this kind of moon? Could have been formed in the protoplanetary disk or could be Neptune-like planets that have been trapped during migration towards to, or away from, the central star?
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This recent detection of an Earth-mass, probably gaseous, exoplanet might be relevant - see http://www.nature.com/news/earth-mass-exoplanet-is-no-earth-twin-1.14477.
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Similar in size, energy received from its host star and star type etc.
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I agree with Sandro Cervante's opinion. In addition, I suggest you to look into my article on "Exoplanets". Therein, you may find many papers written by well-known specialists in astrophysics and - biology.
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Scientists have suggested an experimental system to study serpentinization and look at chemical reactions that pave the way for life. Ref- NASA Astrobiology Group.
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Geologic hydrogen production has long been thought to fuel deep ecosystems. Hydrogen-producing reactions known to take place between water and rock at high temperatures and pressures, however, have only been recapitulated in the laboratory at very slow rates, perhaps too slow to support Earth’s ubiquitous deep biosphere. In a report published in the October 2013 edition of American Mineralogist, DCO scientists Muriel Andreani, Isabelle Daniel, and Marion Pollet-Villard of University Claude Bernard Lyon 1 show that the rate of one such reaction, serpentinization, can be increased by an order of magnitude using aluminum oxide as a catalyst [1].
Serpentinization reactions take place naturally under hydrothermal conditions, such as those found in and around deep ocean vent systems, and result in the production of molecular hydrogen (H2). High-energy molecular hydrogen is liberated from water, and the rocky, ultramafic substrate is simultaneously modified to produce serpentine. Such reactions have been reproduced in laboratories around the world for several decades, but proceed slowly, over the course of weeks or months. This sluggish reaction would likely be unable to support the thriving, sunlight-deprived, deep microbial ecosystems present on our planet today.
“For the first time we understand why and how we have H2 produced at such a fast rate. When you take into account aluminum, you understand the amount of life flourishing on hydrogen,” said study co-author Isabelle Daniel.
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Over the Solar System, the relative isotopic concentrations of any one chemical element are not the same at different celestial objects and, even, at different localities of any one celestial object. Such a phenomenon is characteristic for many chemical elements. It is known for the Earth, Moon, and other planets and their satellites, for example, for Mars and Titan. What is, in your opinion, the cause (nature) of this phenomenon?
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Isotopic anomalies in solar system objects can be due to 1) nucleosynthetic effects, i.e., material that has been synthesized in other stars and preserved in presolar stardust grains, 2) molecular cloud fractionation effects at very low temperatures that have been preserved in very primitive organic matter as H-C-N anomalies, 3) anomalies in short-lived radionuclides like 26Al that are due to their different decay at different times after solar system formation, 4) cosmogenic effects due to exposure to the galactic high energy environment (e.g., spallation reactions), 5) Anomalies in oxygen isotopes that are due to CO self shielding under UV irradiation of the young Sun (mass-independent fractionation), and 6) mass dependent fractionation. The question is to what composition you want to refer your anomalies. For instance, the Earth and most meteoritic materials are isotopically anomalous in N and O with respect to the Sun (see results by the GENESIS mission)!
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Many craters on Mars have dark dunes, Firsoff, Gale, Nicholson, Becquerel and others. Some reports state that these are basaltic sands. ResearchGate contributor Giovanni Leone directed me to the paper by Kerber, et al., on pyroclasts dispersal from Apollinaris Patera. This information is helpful, but it does not address the “islands” of dark dunes within segregate sections of these and other craters. Are these dark sands aeolian dispersion or are they local eroded volcanic intrusions via sub-crater fracturing?
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Eric and Giovanni, Thank you for your comments. Your information gave me key words to search whereby I found sources needed. Your input helped more than you realize. - JB
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I imagine the rotation of a gaseous planet smoother compared to that of a solid planet, altering space-time softly with less nodules, and for that with an even orbit (with an uniforming place for the materials, forming rings).
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@Michael Clark
The mass of a body does not rule absolutely the presence and number of satellites. First, there are two kinds of planet/satellite system formation: disruption and accretion on one side, and capture of an outer body on the other. The mass of a planet alone will not rule the presence of a satellite, Venus is nearly as massive as the Earth and has no satellite, while Mars, much smaller, has two satellites we expect to have been captured. Even in bodies much smaller than Earth, we can find multiple systems, like Pluto and its five known satellites, or the multiple asteroids in the Main Belt. The presence and stability of satellites is a far much more complex problem than just a problem of mass of the central body, you need to take into account the formation scenario, the density of the bodies...
@Sundaresan Muthuswamy
There is an "optimal distance" from the Sun, from a purely theoretical point of view, and with only the Earth to support it, it is called the Circumsteallr Habitable Zone (CHZ), or "Goldilocks zone". The real problem is to define the said zone, because we can expect some greenhouse effects, but its efficiency will depend on the density and chemical properties of the planet's atmosphere. A quick introduction here: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-223
Concerning water, any instrument observing the Earth (or an exoplanet similar to Earth) from a distance would find that there is water on it, since the first analysis which would be made would be a spectral analysis of the whole planet, and the atmosphère and oceanic surface definitely have water features.
Concerning the atmosphere of satellites, well, Titan, the most massive satellite of Saturn, has a thick atmospere of methane. The stability of planetary atmosphere is still a wide subject, but it is not only a question of mass, but also of temperature, rotation speed, magnetic fields effects...
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I proposed that cometary unidentified emissions are belonged to photoluminescence of frozen hydrocarbon particles (Simonia, Ap&SS 2007, and AJ 2011). I intend to extend my theory to ISON comet as well.
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The Dominion Astrophysical Observatory (Victoria, B.C., Canada) has 72-inch and 48-inch telescopes that are equipped with first rate spectrographs.
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Michael,
Your geological and planetary survey is interesting, however,
I need to copy some information from handbooks:
* The Sun's dipole magnetic field of 50–400 µT (at the photosphere)
reduces with the cube of the distance to about 0.1 nT near the Earth.
Over the 11-year period, the solar dipole magnetic field completes half of its cycle,
flipping so that the north and south ends eventually trade places.
A full solar cycle takes 22 years.
* The actual magnetic field at the Earth is formed by the solar wind and
is about hundred times greater (~5 nT). However this field has periodic
structure (see wikipedia - Ballerina's skirt shape) with a period of about 25 days.
Moreover, the mentioned periodic structure is not regular and strongly
fluctuates due to fluctuating coronal mass ejection rates from the Sun.
You can see the real time data of magnetic field of solar wind (Bz)
near the Earth from http://www.solarham.net/.
Thereby, your theory about "accumulation" of solar magnetic field by the Earth
disagree with observations.
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It refers to the existence of the big bang, and it predicts the predominal energy that is universally spread out.
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It refers to the exponential increase (expansion) of universe, during just a fraction of a second after Big Band, to a many fold volume (say by a factor of more than 10^(20)). After that universe expanded gradually at much lower rate. It was needed to explain puzzle of flatness of present day universe and some other issues.
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Our deepest silicate rock samples from the Earth, are generally not considered to be filtered for grain size by the transporter (usually kimberlite), yet are sometimes accompanied by megacryst suites attributed to high pressure crystallisation from melts or fluids. In the Navajo volcanic field USA, transporting pipes might exercise a control on fragmentation and grain size, and in one locality (the Thumb minette) olivine grains in peridotite rock reach astonishing grain sizes of several cm. The term "megacryst", was used to originally describe them (S Ehrenberg 1974) , but is perhaps not the right word, as these are polycrystalline peridotites (with garnet). Such coarse (or "ultracoarse") grain sizes appear to be outside of the ranges of conventional statistical models for mantle grain size. Some consider grain size of the mantle to have evolved with time (Solamatov and Reese, 2008: file attached).
What controls the average grain size of Earth's mantle, and should it be the same on other terrestrial planets like Mars?
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Grain size of mantle rocks is to be expectet do be higly variable due scale invariance produced by both fragmentation and annealing processes. I collected a rich documentation in this paper:
Power law olivine crystal size distributions in lithospheric mantle xenoliths
P Armienti, S Tarquini - Lithos, 2002 - Elsevier
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Robert Lanza’s Biocentrism Theory
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Space, time and space-time are defined in a context of the presence of an observer.
But the observer need not be biologic, physics apparatus must also obey relativity.
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The iron meteor that created Barringer Crater was estimated to have had a diameter of ~30.5 meters or about 1/5 of the original depth of the crater, ~174 meters.
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The depth of projectile penetration depends on the size of the projectile and densities of both impactor and target rocks (following equation of 7.3.1 from Melosh 1989: depth of penetration = projectile diameter * sq root of (density of projectile / density of target rocks).
For chondritic impactors the depth of penetration is more or less equal to the size of impactor. In case of iron projectile impacting highly-porous sedimentary target it can penetrate up to few times its own diameter.
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So far the Cassini solstice mission has provide a wealth of priceless data about Titan, and about Saturn as well. Today's (10th July) a new flyby started (T-92), on planning it was called a "10-pointer” radar flyby and "one of the two scientifically most significant Titan flybys for Radar during the Solstice mission".
During Cassini's current (T-92) flyby, will we see any dramatic changes in Titan's northern hemisphere? What if we found that Titan lakes are changing with a rate higher than what we though based on analysis from previous data?
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Hello. If we find that lakes on Titan are changing quicker that we previously concluded, it will mean (I think) that previous analysis did not take into account some influential factor. For example, some source of heat, neglected before,..or which has become active recently.
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Recent images from NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera provide evidence that the lunar crust may be pulling apart in certain areas. The images reveal small trenches less than a kilometer in length, and less than a few hundred meters wide. Only a small number of these features, known as graben, have been discovered on the lunar surface.
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This oscillation theory seems to me rather challenging and immature, as it ignores certain fundamental geologic evidence of global tectonics on Earth. Explaining crustal evolution instead by "drying" is rather questionable ... and a forcing mechanism of the "oscillation" remains to be explained ...
However, the implicit question behind "is our Earth's moon geologically active?" aims surely at another direction and may be translated into: "are there (still) internal forces of Earth's moon at work , which might have produced Earth-like rift features? Corresponding terrestrial structures are built-up by sub-crustal convective movements of the partially molten mantle, which discharges its thermal surplus to space mainly by respective convection.
Due to the relatively small size of the Moon it was thought that it solidified too early to show recent plate-tectonic structures similar to Earth. The new observations of lunar "graben"-like structures might either question the latter theory or alternatively, might question the adequacy of deductions from interpretations of terrestrial analogues.
The ultimate question is therfore: were these structures built-up by internal (intra-lunar) or finally by external forces? And within this context: Which is the age of this structure resp. represents this structure recent or past processes?
@ the forum: any idea...?
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You might want to provide us with more information on what you mean. The sun is also moving. It revolves around the milky way galaxy. What do you mean by stable?