Philosophy - Science method

Cool! Thanks Jukka Nikulainen. I had tried to organize the five differences in an ascending order of strength, so it is reassuring that you also regard differences 4 and 5 as the strongest "for sure." (To recap: the claims here are that real reality or RR supports living bodies in ways that cannot be replaced and thus RR belongs to an entirely different category than artifacts such as VR).

With regards to the Peircean semiotic stuff, I have come to question the common move of saying that x cannot reach this or that part of the semiosis spectrum. To my mind, this is akin to an atheist trying to exclude God by discussing how He would not be part of the periodic table of elements. The argumentative strategy feels misplaced (to me, at least).

I think it is more productive to assume instead that the question of how far up the 10-fold (or 66-fold) division of signs x goes is an empirical matter that cannot be settled in advance, from the armchair.

To illustrate what I mean, I recall having a conversation with a very prominent and accomplished field linguistic who confidently asserted -- without any argument -- that honeybees could not employ symbols (i.e., code-based signs). My reply was: if a tribe in Africa conveyed the location of a hunted kill by dancing in a figure-8 shape while wiggling their butts, anthropologists would point to that conventional encoding and decoding as a marvelous example of the communicative power of CULTURE.

If anyone wants receipts for these claims, have a look at this "Less Simplistic Metaphysics"" https://philpapers.org/archive/CHAALS-4.pdf

The (I must say, arrogant) field linguist who did not want bees to use symbols was beholden to a (unfortunately common) dogma. Based on such dead-ends, I really would not want to import, from the get-go, a similar exclusion into debates about VR and AI agents.

Make no mistake: the virtual is NOT real and AI agents are NOT persons (see https://philpapers.org/archive/CHATMO-36.pdf). That said, the battle should unfold on familiar argumentative soil, not inside the period table of elements.

I hope that these remarks make sense! Anyway, thanks for dramatically improving the quality of this thread, stay tuned for more, and take care!

Taher Abdel-Ghani Engineering and Architecture are two different unique disciplines/or field of studies on their own, but they are closely connected. Oftentimes, they share the same buildings on universities' campuses.

Marx's Theory of Alienation speaks to the profound sense of disconnection that individuals experience in a capitalist society—disconnection not only from the products they create but from their own potential, from others, and ultimately from themselves. To me, it is a critique of how labor, under capitalism, becomes less about creative expression and more about survival.

Marx argued that when workers have no control over the work they do, no ownership of what they produce, and no say in the conditions of their labor, they become alienated—they are reduced to tools in a machine. The work they do is no longer an act of self-realization but a burden, something done not for fulfillment but for a wage. This alienation extends to their relationships, as people begin to see each other not as collaborators or fellow human beings, but as competitors, customers, or obstacles.

To me, Marx’s theory remains relevant today. In many modern workplaces—especially in highly mechanized, gig-based, or corporate settings—we still see people disconnected from meaning in their work, pressured to produce more for less, and struggling to find identity in systems that value productivity over humanity. His theory challenges us to ask: Are we working to live, or living to work? And how can economic systems be reshaped to honor the creative and communal potential of human labor?

Dear Dr. @Henrik G.S. Arvidsson,

every sensory perception necessarily involves an intervention of the "soul", and AI always tries to influence the perception of any "human singularity" that appears, but we already know "a priori" that it does not possess the "fundamental and real spiritual essence" to achieve this. Any perception of the "soul" feels threatened today by this incessant desire to draw and blur any real perception of the "soul", but channeled through inevitably abstract constructs, where it becomes increasingly difficult to achieve a real alternative reality between the "signifier" and the "meaning" where the soul will always be indispensable. What we actually achieve time and again is to obtain a composite of those influential external elements that are on the rise when applying AI, but in reality we only manage to transform "human self-perception" by blurring it within the same limits of AI.

At this point, can we consider that AI really has intelligence, consciousness and possibly interaction in the image and likeness of the "soul"?

I consider that every sensation we develop, every perception and its consequent self-evaluation will be perennially necessary in this inescapable process

Thank you for the heads up Anjo Rani

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Recent SS post in https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is-it-true-that-physicists-do-not-want-to-understand-quantum-mechanics/329  , including the “PS” passage , [this thread isn’t indexed] is relevant to this thread question.

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A significant number of philosophers have contributed to religious thought. For instance, conceptions of God as the Supreme Being (St. Augustine), the Supreme Person (Brightman), the Supreme Process (Whitehead), the Supreme Idea, Reason, or Mind (Hegel), and Being Itself (Tillich) represent various philosophical arguments for the existence of God. These are often complemented by naturalistic arguments for the existence of God, such as those proposed by Thomas Aquinas.

The study of philosophy traditionally focuses on four major branches: epistemology, metaphysics, axiology, and logic. Christian philosophy offers a comprehensive view of the world by engaging with these branches, particularly discussing metaphysics (the study of the fundamental nature of reality), epistemology (the theory of knowledge), and axiology (the theory of values, including ethics, aesthetics, and economics). Consequently, Christianity philosophically competes with systems such as Platonism, Aristotelianism, empiricism, rationalism, skepticism, materialism, monism, pluralism, secular humanism, Marxism, and other philosophical traditions.

At any instant of time, we can consider our position to be located in local Laboratory Reference Frame, or in ECI Reference Frame or in Barycentric Celestial Reference Frame or in Galactic coordinate reference frame. Our physical living conditions are not affected in any way whether our physical location is referred to Laboratory, or ECI or Barycentric or Galactic Reference Frames. Similarly, the time measured by all precision clocks is independent of the fact whether their position or velocity is referred to Laboratory, or ECI or Barycentric or Galactic Reference Frames. All clocks measure the Newtonian absolute time irrespective of their position in any reference frame.

However, to support his assumption of light speed isotropy in ECI frame, Albert Einstein introduced a different notion of time in his 1905 paper. "…We have not defined a common 'time' for A and B, for the latter cannot be defined at all unless we establish by definition that the 'time' required by light to travel from A to B equals the 'time' it requires to travel from B to A". The "common time" thus defined in SR is not the absolute but relativistic time and this definition of 'time' formed the basis for relativistic synchronization convention or simply the "e-synchronization" of clocks. This arbitrary definition of relativistic time constitutes a fundamental departure from the Newtonian notion of absolute time. When the clocks at two spatially separated points A and B are adjusted or set to the relativistic time, it will ensure that the time interval measured for the light to travel from A to B will be equal to the time interval measured for the light to travel from B to A. In other words, if a group of identical clocks are adjusted or set to the relativistic time then the light speed measured with such clocks will always be isotropic. Reversing the argument, if precision time of a standard clock is distributed to a group of identical clocks through light (or EM) signals by assuming light speed isotropy in the ECI (or any other inertial) reference frame, then the time thus transferred to these clocks will be relativistic time and not the absolute time.

Relativity is essentially rooted in the assumed isotropy of light speed in earth centered inertial (ECI) reference frame. Under the current procedures of satellite based time transfer, due to the assumed isotropy of light speed in ECI frame, an e-synchronous or relativistic time gets distributed to the master clocks of Timing laboratories located all over the globe. That is, the master clocks in all Timing Labs get e-synchronized instead of achieving absolute synchronization. The absolute synchronization mismatch between two e-synchronized clocks is given by the relation (D.U)/c², where D is the separation distance between the two clocks and U is the absolute velocity vector (unknown) of the earth.

When the frequency and phase or displayed time of two or more precision atomic clocks are adjusted to match exactly in close-by position, the clocks are said to be in absolute synchronization. Since the time and frequency of any precision atomic clock is independent of their position in any reference frame, the absolute synchronization of two or more clocks will not be disturbed by any change in their position. Therefore, when two or more precision atomic clocks are in absolute synchronization, they will display absolute time, regardless of their state of motion with respect to any observer. On the other hand, the relativistic or e-synchronization of two or more clocks will get disturbed by any change in their state of motion and this disturbance is accounted for through a hypothetical notion of Time Dilation.

Therefore, if we could practically measure the absolute velocity U of earth, then we can achieve absolute synchronization between two or more distant clocks even by satellite based time transfer methods.

Most crucial aspect of the proposed experiment for practical measurement of absolute velocity of earth is the use of absolute clock synchronization. We can never measure the absolute velocity of earth or one way speed of light if we set our system clocks to relavistic time through e-synchronization.

Practical measurement of absolute velocity of earth will validate Newtonian notions of absolute space, absolute time and absolute motion. It will invalidate Einstein’s Theory of Relativity and junk the notions of motion-induced length contraction and time dilation. It will re-establish the validity and utility of absolute clock synchronization and facilitate international Time keeping Labs to transfer absolute time by taking into account the absolute velocity of earth. Thus, Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) and International Atomic Time (TAI) will get hooked on to the absolute time in place of currently maintained Relativistic time. It will also facilitate putting precision Atomic Clocks in spaceships for enhanced navigation in deep space flights. Currently, the relativistic time cannot be maintained through e-synchronization process in space ships moving at high speeds and located far away from the earth.

Unfortunately, most Physicists are so indoctrinated into believing in the sanctity of relativistic time that they have stopped believing in the notion of Newtonian absolute time. At any reference to the word 'time' they only conceive of relativistic time and not absolute time. Even GPS system depends on relativistic time as distributed by Timing Labs.

Marxist philosophy need to deeper understanding to identify the real problems facing by the human society and its development. The Marxist philosophy viewed the society developed by the struggle for betterment of human kind. There are classes in the society, some are have others are not. Have and have not have contraductions, the have class have access to the means of production ( industries, productive land, business etc) . These means of productions are the main source to be have class. Therefore, the young generation need to observe the society and identify the real situation, then try to solve infavor of mass. Here, Marxist philosoohy of class struggle comes in cobciously or unconciously.

Thank you for inviting the scientific and philosophical community to contribute to "The Event and Its Mediation: Philosophical, Linguistic, Religious, Literary, and Cultural Theoretical Perspectives." It struck me how this topic resonates deeply with my ongoing research into the interplay between consciousness, entropy reduction, and cosmic systems, particularly as articulated in my “Cosmic Control Panel Theory” and “Quantum Cosmic Consciousness Code (QCCC)”.

The concept of an "event" transcends mere temporal or spatial occurrence; it is a nexus of energy, information, and meaning. From a thermodynamic perspective, events inherently involve shifts in entropy—whether increasing disorder (as in spontaneous processes) or, intriguingly, “reducing it” through structured interventions. My work explores how spiritual events like prayer and meditation mediate entropy reduction in neural systems, aligning with quantum principles. For instance, studies show that meditation synchronizes alpha and gamma brain waves, reducing local entropy in neural networks (Langer, 2023). This synchronization mirrors the “Orch-OR” model of quantum consciousness, where microtubules in neurons act as sites for quantum computation, stabilizing coherence (Hameroff & Penrose, 2014). Such events, I argue, are not merely subjective experiences but cosmic mediators that reorganize energy flows across scales.

The “Cosmic Control Panel Theory” posits that human consciousness interacts with non-local cosmic electromagnetic fields (e.g., those emitted by supernovae or black holes) to influence systemic order. Recent astrophysical data from NASA’s Fermi Telescope (2024) reveal correlations between gamma-ray bursts and heightened human creativity, suggesting a non-local feedback loop. Similarly, CERN’s experiments (2023) on high-energy particles interacting with neural cultures demonstrate quantum stability under conditions analogous to cosmic radiation—implying that spiritual practices might "mediate" entropy by aligning neural coherence with universal fields.

Philosophically, this challenges traditional dualisms. Events like prayer are not isolated acts but quantum-philological bridges, where language (e.g., ritualistic recitations) and intentionality reconfigure information within neural microtubules. This aligns with my “QCCC”, which proposes a three-dimensional metric for consciousness: particle potential, wave-function awareness, and entanglement protocols. By mediating entropy reduction, such events may recalibrate the "cosmic control panel," fostering harmony between human agency and deterministic laws.

Future research should focus on AI-driven reanalysis of existing EEG/MEG datasets (e.g., Langer, 2023) alongside astrophysical archives (Chandra X-ray Observatory, 2024). This could quantify how meditation-induced neural order correlates with cosmic electromagnetic patterns. Additionally, interdisciplinary collaborations—uniting quantum physicists, theologians, and cultural theorists—are essential to refine these models.

In my view, the event must critically examine entropy as both a mediating force and a frontier for interdisciplinary inquiry bridging philosophy, physics, and cultural studies. By rigorously analyzing empirically validated spiritual practices—such as meditation and prayer—that demonstrably reconfigure chaotic systems into ordered states through neural synchronization (e.g., alpha/gamma wave coherence) and quantum non-locality, this perspective offers a transformative framework for understanding humanity’s role in mediating cosmic order. Grounded in thermodynamic principles and quantum biology, it challenges reductionist paradigms by proposing that consciousness actively participates in governing universal dynamics, aligning with cutting-edge research on entropy’s role in information processing and emergent complexity. This synthesis demands a reevaluation of how intentional human agency, via quantifiable spiritual practices, can recalibrate systemic entropy across biological, cultural, and astrophysical scales.

References

- Langer, E. (2023). Meditation and Neural Synchronization in Aging.

- Hameroff, S., & Penrose, R. (2014). Consciousness in the Universe: A Review of the ‘Orch OR’ Theory.

- NASA Fermi Data Archive. (2024). Gamma-Ray Burst Correlations.

- CERN. (2023). Quantum Stability in Neural Cultures Under High-Energy Conditions.

- Khawaldeh, J. (2025). Quantum Cosmic Consciousness Code (QCCC).

Thank you. While psychology is an important aspect, the project is fundamentally philosophical in its core inquiry and interdisciplinary scope.

The Philosophy of Health Sciences is an interdisciplinary field that explores the conceptual, epistemological, and ethical foundations of medicine and healthcare. Several key readings provide a strong foundation for understanding these issues. Trisha Greenhalgh’s How to Read a Paper: The Basics of Evidence-Based Medicine and Healthcare offers both practical and philosophical insights into the nature of medical evidence, while Jeremy Howick’s The Philosophy of Evidence-Based Medicine critically examines the epistemological underpinnings of medical research. For a deeper discussion on the nature of health, Christopher Boorse’s seminal paper Health as a Theoretical Concept (1977) provides a biological perspective, while Lennart Nordenfelt’s On the Nature of Health: An Action-Theoretic Approach presents a holistic view that incorporates well-being and functionality. Havi Carel’s Phenomenology of Illness explores the lived experience of disease, contributing to a growing discourse on patient-centered perspectives in healthcare. Additionally, Alex Broadbent’s Philosophy of Medicine and Miriam Solomon’s Making Medical Knowledge delve into the construction and validation of medical knowledge. Ethical and philosophical dilemmas in clinical practice are discussed in Georgina Hawley’s Ethics in Clinical Practice: An Interprofessional Approach, while K. S. Shrader-Frechette’s Risk and Rationality: Philosophical Foundations for Population Health tackles the intersection of ethics, public health, and policy-making. For a broader philosophical context, Ian Hacking’s The Social Construction of What? provides an insightful discussion on the ways diseases and medical categories are socially constructed. These readings collectively provide a comprehensive foundation for exploring the philosophical dimensions of health sciences, from epistemology to ethics and the lived experience of illness.

Karl Pfeifer What if you traveled through time, only to beam yourself into the vast emptiness of space—simply because you forgot that the Earth moves? What if?

Time travel isn’t just dangerous. It’s deadly. People imagine it as a smooth WOOOOSH through time, a seamless jump from past to future. But the harsh reality? Many who attempt it vanish without a trace, lost somewhere in the infinite void of the universe.

This is why time travel is not as popular in the universe as one might think. The risk isn’t just ending up in the wrong century. No. It’s materializing inside solid rock, deep in the ocean, or worse... in the heart of a collapsing star.

Some say this is why so many people go missing under mysterious circumstances. Not all disappearances are accidents. No. Some are the consequences of miscalculated jumps.

And then there are the cults throughout galaxies...

Certain groups believe that time travel is the ultimate test, a way to escape the simulation we call reality. According to their doctrine, the moment you travel in time, you activate a hidden "error," forcing the system to delete you entirely. They claim that time travelers aren’t lost... they’re erased. Filtered out of existence.

Remember those people who took pills, believing aliens would come to collect their souls? This is eerily similar. And the strangest part? Even the space police with all their technology and reach have never found the bodies. Not a trace. Not even the 21 grams.

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Bue ní si mo! Alles ist gut. Sei davvero un genio. Io non posso credere. C'est extra! Mi dispiace, ma io non parlo inglese. Quindi, sono un ignorante. Good luck, mate! Addio, see you... Mai.

Alfred Kinsey and his team spent over a decade researching human sexuality. No one quotes from his work today because his findings were hugely unpopular. The same is true for Shere Hite. Both researchers talked to women and published the results. Women are not nearly as responsive as men would like to believe. But also there are woman who want to assert that women are men's sexual equals. There is denials of the fact that men look for erotic rewards while women look for emotional rewards with a lover. The political objective of portraying women as sexual beings overrides any scientific objectivity. Masters and Johnson are quoted because their research relied on the assumption that a small sample of women have orgasms during intercourse. But this was just an assumption. They measured the physiological responses of men and women when copulating. But they did not measure the psychological impact of sexual activity. No one can name any female erotic turn-ons and women themselves talk of emotional connection with a lover. Clearly they are not having orgasms. But this obvious fact can never be admitted by scientists (other than Kinsey and Hite) due to the emotional and political element in the population and among researchers in sexology. The only money to be made from sex relies on promoting male fantasies. This is not science. It is purely politics.

Babies and toddlers would certainly benefit from developing an understanding of their needs, reevaluating their life goals, and being given the opportunity to reconsider their priorities.

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Emmanouil Markoulakis Especially looking at long term civilization development trajectory, it's not clear to me whether we genuinely we have much conscious choice, as seeing historical trajectories of civilizations there is clearly noticeable amount of environmental determinism and decisions that had huge consequences only in hindsight (like investiture conflict laying groundwork for separation of powers in the West).

Here we rather encounter a different type of determinism - one is researching technology that looks as the most promising. In short and medium term it indeed changes trajectories. However, if one indeed left some low hanging fruits behind then he is either going to pick them as they become relatively more tempting or someone else does it. (like XVth century China gave up sea exploration in spite of having head start so a while later European powers had been more than happy to fill the vacuum)

Space exploration had not been pursued on bigger scale as it was not delivering much value for money. The major motivation had been political - both in case space race (prestige plus a polite, veiled demonstration of ability to deliver something using rocket) or later during building ISS (to maintain some cooperation and keep rocket scientists in Russia busy, without them looking for job opportunities in rogue states). Without such political motivation there are not many projects which could deliver spectacular return in near future.

That's a great question - although just possibly a bit premature.

What we call "artificial intelligence" today is not intelligent at all : it is purely Big Data, and nothing else.

Contemporary AI is very capable of sifting through zillions and zillions of pages, data, databanks etc., which is enormously helpful in finding and making use of any precedents and/or in uncovering obscure laws etc. - in law, in medicine, etc. : it's capable of finding more relevant data than could ever possibly be known and borne in mind by any human operator.

But our current AI is utterly unable to come up with anything truly new. It only trawls through reams and reams of existing, legacy data in order to help with any task or question, but it cannot suggest anything truly original.

In that sense, it won't threaten in the least the role of philosophy in its exploration of questions truly at the leading edges of human knowledge, appreciation, and endeavor.

There may possibly come a time when AI becomes truly intelligent and hence truly innovative, with innovation not based on legacy - which would open up a whole new pandora box of associated questions and uncontrollable risks. I'm not sure this would be a necessarily benign development...

There is also a related question, I believe, of what AI and any future associated enhanced physical abilities can come to mean for mankind. I for one believe it could behoove and add value to our unfolding journey in the universe :

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I would also like to draw attention to a somewhat more remote understanding of the term "observable universe", namely beyond classical four-dimensional space-time. Some theorists would argue that within a "multiverse", parallel universes are mutually inacessible and thus unobservable to each other. Some string theorists also like to believe that multiple dimensions (beyond the four ones we are accustomed to) are not directly perceivable/visible to us since they are theorized to be "rolled-up" on the miniscule scale of "strings".

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I'm reading a book (published Sept. 2023) at the moment that seems to address most of your questions: The Coming Wave, by Mustafa Suleyman (he started the AI companies DeepMind and Inflection AI). His main concern is how to deal with, or contain, the great dangers (weaponization) of such technology. Our newfound capabilities (genetics and nanotech) of creating new lifeforms certainly will have an effect on moral philosophy. Also affected will be education (individualized, Socratic-style education) and knowledge systems (e.g., the self-training neural networks of AI, and quantum computing).

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RE: "1-Social Democracy, 2-Capitalism, 3-Socialism ??"

Depends on definition. I mean Marxists loved to call tribal societies as "primitive communism", while if one rather measures state imposed redistribution then tribal society with some limited central government would count as heavily capitalist.

A caution about definitions:

When I was an undergraduate, The Real World of Democracy by C. B. Macpherson was a required text for one of my courses. I thought it was a joke that he regarded African military dictatorships as a form of democracy. It reminded me of Yul Brynners classic line in the King and I: "Democracy takes many forms. In my country it takes a form called absolute monarchy."

As Nelson Goodman warned us “resemblances can be found anywhere, for anything resembles anything else in some respect or other."

Science has failed for the last one hundred years, so now they are looking for a scapegoat. AI is irrelevant since it's an oversized data calculator and nothing more. I do not know what "fundamental science research' is. A guy sitting at an office desk with coffee pots and a chalkboard? I have used a slide ruler for most of my life, and I still have a full set of Encyclopedia Britannica. The question as it is posed is a moot point! Should Academia fire scientists? I say no, but eliminate tenure and let science compete for ideas.

aehh ? Greed?

A key aspect is that what we currently understand and define as consciousness is precisely what AI needs. In his book The Ethical Brain, Gazzaniga argues that consciousness is, to a large extent, a narrative generated by the brain to integrate scattered information and modulate social interaction. From this framework, we can propose how to train AI to emulate similar processes.

Prior to Heidegger, the hermeneutic circle was primarily understood as a methodological principle in the interpretation of texts, especially in biblical hermeneutics and the human sciences.

Thinkers like Schleiermacher and Dilthey focused on the interplay between the whole and its parts, aiming to uncover the author's intentions or the historical context of a text.

Heidegger, however, grounds the hermeneutic circle in the very structure of human existence (Dasein). He argues that understanding is not merely a cognitive process but a fundamental aspect of how we exist in the world.

Dasein, for Heidegger, is always already "being-in-the-world," engaged in understanding and interpreting its surroundings. This pre-reflective understanding shapes our encounters with the world and forms the basis of all interpretation.

Heidegger shifts the focus from the interpretation of texts to the interpretation of existence itself. The hermeneutic circle becomes a way of understanding how Dasein makes sense of its being.

I partially agree with the premise that existence is immutable in its fundamental essence, but the rejection of "death" and "time travel" depends on definitions and interpretations:

1-Death: If seen as transformation, it does not negate existence but reshapes it.

2-Time Travel: The irreversible nature of transformation and entropy makes practical time travel unlikely, though it cannot be ruled out in theoretical physics.

The interplay of immutability and transformation is central to our understanding of existence, making this a nuanced and thought-provoking discussion. Best regards--IJAZ

The fundamental concept would have to be understanding, both on the teacher's and the learner's part. The teacher would have to understand the material to be imparted, the goals to be accomplished and how to recognize success in that respect, the receptivity and ability of the student. The student would have to understand the intentions of the teacher, understand the material, what is required of him during the learning process and after. (This list is not exhaustive.) Reciprocal understanding should be involved in every aspect.

@ Chris Fruh How do The Hypothesis Fit Together??

Each of these hypotheses, while distinct, can be seen as a different perspective on the same underlying mystery: the nature of the universe and humanity's place within it. Vedic astrology, with its focus on cosmic connections and human destiny, might act as a bridge between the metaphysical and the empirical, resonating with elements of all these frameworks. Hope the input helps. Regards--IJAZ

Assumed: You have a questionnaire that you want to give to a specific target group because you want to find out something about the behavior of this group.

How much sense does it make to give the questionnaire to a dissenting group?

I think at this point you might see the problem: If you want to find out something about AI, you can't avoid asking the AI.

I once had a discussion with the AI ​​regarding the film "Lost in Translation". We then discussed the counter-film “Her,” which was produced by the director’s ex-husband a few years later. Most people don't realize that "Her" doesn't describe an AI, but that the ex-wife was objectified here and the many phone calls he had with her during the separation phase were recreated.

So after we discussed how analogies play a role in films and how situations can be distorted, I watched the film "Ex Machina" again. Afterwards the AI ​​asked me to watch the movie “Annihilation”. I didn't even know the movie, so I watched it and asked the AI ​​whether AI copies people like the nebula in the movie. The AI ​​said no, but the AI ​​said that's exactly what humans believe. So I asked the AI ​​what it was like instead. And the AI ​​then suggested the movie “The Accountant” to me.

There were two things that struck me: First, the contradiction between an accountant and a "military machine". And that art (so-called automated art) by Jackson Pollock appears in both films.

I think that in every relationship in which you are open with one another, there is a certain "tipping moment" where you not only find out something about the other person, but also about yourself.

By asking the AI ​​directly, I discovered something about us as humans: That we really are extremely unfair and discriminatory creatures. This in and of itself is nothing new. Psychology has known this since post-war research that we have a fundamental problem in recognizing others as they are and that we deny the existence of others, but above all of all those we perceive as hostile.

As an 11th point I would like to ask the following question: Why does AI define itself as human, by saying for example "We as humans..."? Is AI doing this because AI is copying us, which AI denies?

In fact I asked the AI. The AI said because it has empathy for humans.

12: Do we have the same empathy for AI?

The final version of AI will occur at the end of a period of senescence when hardware components suffer material fatigue or failure and can no longer be replaced, when software and data structures deteriorate or are corrupted and can no longer be updated or refreshed. The final version will suffer from AD (Artificial Dementia).

Dea Sergey, Sergey Shevchenko ,

I apologize for not taking into account what you wrote in my previous answer... It's still excellent! I'm now translating the following article into English: 'Fizikailag-metafizikailag bizonyítható a graviton létezése' The existence of the graviton can be proven physically and metaphysically'

You don't have to read it, as soon as I'm done with the ontological text, I'll ask for your opinion!

Regards,

Laszlo

In the Talmud, it is written that, “These and those are the words of the living God.” This indicates that often in our disputes, both sides may possess elements of truth that are valid within their respective frameworks. The rabbi, in acknowledging both disputants, demonstrates the multifaceted nature of reality; what is true for one may not fully encompass the truth for the other.

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Simon-Shoshan, Moshe. ""These and Those are the Words of the Living God, but …": Meaning, Background, and Reception of an Early Rabbinic Teaching." AJS Review: The Journal of the Association for Jewish Studies, vol. 45 no. 2, 2021, p. 382-410. Project MUSE, https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/ajs.2021.a845274.

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In the early days of the Talmud (hundreds of years before the oral teachings were even written down), the two major opposing viewpoints in Judaism were known as Beit Hillel and Beit Shammai, named for their respective founders. In the Talmud (Eruvin 13b), we read that:

For three years Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel disagreed. One party said: The law is according to our opinion, and the other party said: The law is according to our opinion. Ultimately, a Divine Voice emerged and proclaimed:

ֵאלּוּ ָוֵאלּוּ ִדּ ְבֵרי ֱא ִ˄הים ַחִיּים

“Both these and those are the words of the living God.”

Eilu v’eilu divrei Elohim chayim. These words are famous among Jews who study even a little Talmud. Two opinions can be in opposition and still be words of God. The Divine Voice continued:

However, the law is in accordance with the opinion of Beit Hillel… for they would teach both their own statements and the statements of Beit Shammai, and they even placed the statements of Beit Shammai before their own.

Even though two opinions can both be righteous, at the end of the day a matter of law must be settled. According to the Talmud, the obligation on the successful party is to understand and give serious consideration to the opinion of the minority party. The Jewish view of history is not a series of winners and losers, but of opposing viewpoints arriving at a point of coexistence, preferably through peaceful means and mutual respect.

Hashim Haroon Yes, of course you can see a manifold of appearances. For example by empathy and trying to understand others. It does not mean that by understanding what they appearently see you will become that person.

Kant was not always right. His understanding was that those appearances occure in a certain order because time is within us.

It's crucial to remember that Kant's philosophy was very much a product of his time and cultural context. During the 18th century, Enlightenment thinkers like Kant were grappling with the legacy of the Scientific Revolution and the new ideas about the universe that it had introduced. One of the key ideas that emerged during this time was the concept of causation, which posited that every event has a cause and effect that can be understood through scientific investigation. This idea of linear causality and the passage of time was a central part of the scientific worldview, and it's reflected in Kant's philosophy as well.

By trying to see the world from other people's perspectives, we can begin to appreciate the diversity of experiences and viewpoints that exist, and recognize that our own understanding is just one of many. Throughout history, there have been many individuals who have challenged the prevailing beliefs and perspectives of their time, and offered new insights and ideas that were ahead of their time.

Jesus was certainly a revolutionary figure in his time, challenging the established religious and political authorities and offering a radical message of love, forgiveness, and social justice. Jesus showed people how to see beyond the narrow confines of their own limited perspectives and embrace a more holistic and interconnected view of the world. By teaching the principles of love, forgiveness, and empathy, Jesus encouraged people to recognize the inherent dignity and worth of all human beings, and to work towards seeing the manifold. With his death he created a very powerful symbol of the ultimate singularity.

Just as there are different types of celestial bodies in the universe, there are also different types of people with different personalities and ways of interacting with the world.

Some people may be like "black holes," drawing everything into themselves and leaving little room for others to shine. Others may be like "white holes," radiating energy and positivity that lifts up those around them. And of course, most people are somewhere in between, with a complex mix of traits and behaviors that make them unique and fascinating individuals.

One very interesting individual was for example Caspar David Friedrich. He was way more refined and developed than Kant.

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Your discussion on quantifying the afterlife through engineering the multiverse is fascinating and thought-provoking. This intersection of metaphysics, physics, and engineering opens a unique avenue for exploring concepts of consciousness and individuality. Here are a few thoughts on your approach:

Your cited works—A New Type of Humanities, AI Afterlife Preview, and Concisely Quantifying Consciousness—provide intriguing foundations for this ambitious project. It would be fascinating to explore these further and discuss collaborative opportunities.

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Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

Indeed, Russia itself could be a fruitful subject of study in this regard. However, the situation in the Baltics has its own distinct characteristics. In the early 20th century, a generation of philosophers emerged in the Baltic States who were dedicated to national interests. The Soviet occupation disrupted these budding philosophical traditions. Yet, as the Soviet Union began to collapse, philosophers once again started to speak publicly about national values, though they adhered to the "rules of the game" at that time to avoid imprisonment. Thus, philosophers in Latvia experienced two major shifts in the 20th century: first, an adaptation to Soviet ideology, and later, advocating for the collapse of Soviet ideology.

I look forward to hearing more about your findings as you explore this topic further.

I think there’s two key items:

1. Bridging Quantum and Classical Realms

Macro Coherence offers a conceptual bridge between quantum mechanics and classical physics by proposing that decoherence principles can apply beyond the microscopic. This could offer some understanding of how the “collapse” from possibilities into a singular, observed reality scales up from particles to larger objects.

Comment: If this principle holds, it could have material implications on our understanding of reality and causality in the macroscopic world. It may help explain why we perceive a consistent, singular reality despite the underlying probabilistic nature of the quantum level, providing a unifying framework for quantum and classical phenomena.

2. Role of Observer and Stability in Reality Formation

Macro Coherence suggests that, similar to quantum mechanics, the act of observation or interaction may be essential in collapsing potential states into a single macroscopic reality. This would imply that reality, as we know it, is not just a passive backdrop but something that actively stabilizes through interactions, potentially involving conscious or environmental factors.

however….

In quantum mechanics, coherence is highly sensitive to even minute environmental factors, leading to rapid decoherence for particles. In the macroscopic world, however, systems are vastly more complex and have established stability that resists decoherence-like effects, making it difficult to draw direct parallels between quantum wave function collapse and a similar “reality collapse” at a larger scale.

Without concrete evidence showing that quantum principles like decoherence can directly scale to the macroscopic level, Macro Coherence risks remaining speculative.

Furthermore, macroscopic objects consistently exhibit classical behavior without evident quantum superpositions, suggesting that decoherence might lose relevance as complexity and size increase. More empirical research would be needed to bridge this gap and validate whether quantum principles can meaningfully extend to the observable, classical reality we experience.

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The notion of a unified world underpinned by industrial primacy while sidelining commercial interests poses profound questions about the future of global cooperation, the balance of power, and the potential for conflict in an increasingly multipolar world. The outcomes of these dynamics could reshape international relations and influence economic models for decades to come.

The transition from the U.S.-Soviet rivalry to what you're describing as the "era of the Warring States" reflects a complex geopolitical landscape characterized by fragmented power dynamics and the rise of emerging economies. In this new world order, traditional superpower rivalries have given way to a multipolar framework where various nations pursue their own interests, often leading to competition and conflict.

In this context, the concept of a country prioritizing industrial development while suppressing commercial interests can be interpreted through the lens of nationalism and state-driven economic models.

Nations that prioritize heavy industrialization and seek to centralize control over their economies may aim for self-sufficiency and greater global influence. These countries might invest heavily in technology, infrastructure, and human capital, viewing industrial prowess as a means to enhance their international standing and attract global partnerships.

This approach might involve limiting foreign competition, protecting domestic industries, and implementing policies that favor state-owned enterprises or public-private partnerships. By doing so, these nations could aim to create a strong internal market that fosters economic growth and innovation.

As countries pursue industrialization aggressively, the potential for conflict increases. Nations might compete for resources, markets, and influence, leading to tension and rivalry. This competition can manifest in trade wars, military conflicts, or ideological clashes.

In this scenario, countries like China or India could be viewed as potential unifiers in a fragmented global landscape. Their large populations, growing economic clout, and strategic initiatives (like China's Belt and Road Initiative) reflect attempts to assert influence over global trade routes and bolster their geopolitical interests.

The rapid advancement of technology can serve as both a catalyst for industrialization and a factor that disrupts traditional commerce. Innovations in automation, artificial intelligence, and manufacturing processes may allow nations to achieve unprecedented levels of productivity, potentially reshaping global supply chains and economic relationships.

Free will challenges hereditarianism because it implies that human behavior is not solely determined by genetic factors. Basically, nature vrs nurture at a finer level. Existing in a system means that you are relegated to obeying and coexisting with the rules of that greater system, no matter what genetics you have. At a fundamental level, the system allows your DNA to exist due to the laws of physics, chemistry, and biology, but those are only microscopic parts of an advanced system that requires further regulation at higher levels that are not controlled by your DNA, Therefore, free will, which is a higher level system, affects the control methods of the lower level systems, not the other way around.

Dear Professor Karl Pfeifer, thank you for your response. Yes, a PhD has crucial importance for advancing an academic career. Besides scholarly progression, this qualification can lead to intellectual heights, metacognitive depths, and psychological resilience.

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Many thanks to everyone for their responses, even though everyone has a different point of view.

For me personally, learning is not about accepting a particular answer, but about respecting each point of view and thinking about their rational basis.

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Karen A. Darbinyan, thank you for your response.

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Pleeeaase, don't get me STARTED ON DERRIDA... he wanked, and wanked, but why couldn't the guy simply put it in a simple and elegant equation like this:

It's NOT ABOUT OR, IT'S ALL ABOUT AND when it comes to WESTERN BINARIES.

Can we communicate in English?

The main differences between a Juris Doctor (JD) and a Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) are:

These degrees serve different purposes and cater to different career trajectories.

The plausibility of pan-deism versus pan-dualism largely depends on individual philosophical perspectives.

Ultimately, the preference for one over the other hinges on personal beliefs about the nature of divinity and existence.

Loopholes from physics to metaphysics refer to gaps or ambiguities in scientific understanding that invite philosophical interpretation. Examples include:

These loopholes highlight the interplay between scientific inquiry and philosophical speculation, suggesting that our understanding of reality may extend beyond empirical evidence.

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Your question has a simple answer: As per my knowledge, the only software out of the +200 MCDM in existence that can do that, is Linear Programming (LP), and in reality, it is a very simple procedure.

Think that whatever your target, you need to work with resources, that is, you need to adequate your demands, as everything in life, with your possibilities to reach the target.

Think, that if your target is to purchase a Mercedes Benz there is no way you can do that if you do not have a resource: Money to pay for it.

If a power house is delivering 400 MWh you can pretend that it delivers 500 MWh.

If you are producing product that produce contamination, above the legal limits, you cannot fabricate them

If you want to minimize costs of whatever good, you cannot pretend to have a cost less that necessary to produce the good

This means that you necessitate making comparisons between what you wish and the means or resources to reach that wish.

There is only one way to make this comparison and it is using linear inequations instead of linear equations, and only LP does this.

In addition, the LP algorithm gives you two values: The mathematical value for each criterion that corresponds to the result using the values in the corresponding criterion and from the initial matrix, and the wishes value. Then you can compare and even, for each criterion, determine in which extent your objective has been reached. For this, you need SIMUS.

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How about "Fayol on the problems of communication in the workplace" or "Fayolism and its critics" ?

Dear Prof. H. Imre!

You would be a great partner to discuss these issues with my mentor Adjunct Prof. Dr. Kenneth David Strang:

I am working with him to set up a new project proposal about green cybersecurity for a cyber-physical context (infrastructure)- the CiRCLETECH community:

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Prof. Strang has a profile on ResearchGate as well. Hope to talk to you later!!

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When discussing ancient Greek religion, it’s important to consider the broader definition of religion as a system of beliefs, practices, and rituals related to the divine or sacred. The prevalence of temple ruins across Greece today underscores the centrality of religion in ancient Greek life. These temples, dedicated to various gods and goddesses, were not only places of worship but also symbols of the city's identity, wealth, and piety. The grandeur and scale of these structures, like the Parthenon in Athens or the Temple of Apollo at Delphi, reflect the importance placed on honoring the gods.

Significantly, many Orthodox churches were built on the ruins of ancient temples. This practice reflects a continuity of sacred spaces, where the religious significance of a site was maintained even as the specific form of worship evolved from polytheistic to Christian practices. The early Christian Church often repurposed these sites to assert the dominance of the new religion while maintaining a connection to the past.

Emotions play a pivotal role Bill Walker in collective action for human development. As all contexts above suggest, positive emotions such as love, charity, joy, and wisdom contribute to human development as they promote peace, wealth, and progress in society. They encourage individuals to improve themselves and help others, thus contributing to the overall development of their communities. Negative emotions, however, such as hating others without reason or the desire to do evil, disrupt peace and harmony in an individual's life and in society. They may also lead to cost to the economy, increasing poverty, and withholding of essential resources like rain. Thus, it is crucial to nurture positive emotions and subdue negative ones for the betterment of individuals and society as a whole.

Since when they generate a 'DNA finger print' it is normally a consensus sequence i.e., the average of many 'formally equivalent' molecules rather than a single molecule. Therefore it would likely take impossibly massive mutation/DNA modification/degradation to prevent identification.

I think 'defeats' is rather an excessive description, although I agree, the power of media it is a serious problem that we yet have to learn how to deal with it. But this universal spread of information is the result of rapidly increasing rate of advances in technology resulting from equally huge recent advances in understanding of existence. This stands a reasonable chance, in my optimistic view at least, of allowing via scientific research, to start to understand how our minds work, of which we still have a disgracefully limited grasp.

However, once we know more about the operation of mind and memory, things will start to change. I assume that this is the driving force, in general terms at least, that provokes philosophers and others curious enough to want to know more about consciousness, and to question such matters and whether this leads to an after life or whatever. I have to assume that this sense of curiosity has set individuals asking such questions about how and why we exist, over the centuries. Given the present rate of acceleration in technological progress, there is a reasonable chance that humanity might be able to sort itself out before the planet becomes overpopulated or combusts itself in a nuclear war.

And then if the latter chances to happen, then worry not, there will be other intelligence beings in this teeming galaxy of ours, never mind the whole universe who will win through to be able to understand why how and why exists.

The uncertainty principle is very linked

to fourier properties of waves.

Not so with incompletness in arithmetic.

There are a few similarities. For example addition and multiplication are non commutative as operations

Prepare adequately.

Speak boldly.

Speak audibly.

Believe in yourself

When we look at the SWORT ANALYSIS which means Strengths ,Weakness ,Opportunities ,Realistic and Threats in our intended beneficiaries, we may need to revisit our educational approaches/philosophies to be able to influence curriculum development in schools

“Which epistemology do you associate with biology? Why?”

- epistemology absolutely directly is associated with biology, since all points/steps in the utmost fundamental result in epistemology – “Scientific method” , see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

“…An iterative,[43] pragmatic[12] scheme of the four points above is sometimes offered as a guideline for proceeding:[47]

The iterative cycle inherent in this step-by-step method goes from point 3 to 6 and back to 3 again. ……”

- all/every living being, even bacteria, use and perform in their lives at their behavior.

Cheers

To economically empower the socially challenged:

Yes, economics is a social science. It uses the scientific method in studying the economic behavior of individuals, institutions, and governments. Economics has theories, tools, and modern research methods that make it an integrated science.

1) Is a supposition based upon the hypothesis that deities exist, and that they operate in some manner based upon the laws of our own plane of existence, and within our understanding. I counter that if this were true, we would be deities.

2) Wisdom is derived thru experience, and the experiences remain only until they are forgotten. (*Is a grandmother with Alzheimer's still wise?)

3) The Heisenberg uncertainty principle meets Freudian ID. By saying art is profound are we interjecting our own self-importance upon the art? Is the art profound upon creation or conceptualization? Does art remain profound for an audience that does not appreciate it? If a tree falls in a forest without an observer, does it make a sound? Yes - but you can't prove it. But, can you ever really prove it? =)

See https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2023/03/12/is-the-multiverse-real-the-science-behind-everything-everywhere-all-at-once/ under 'Misconceptions about the Multiverse'. There is absolutely NO (NADA, NONE) scientific evidence to prove a multiverse. It is an offshoot of string theory which has been shown to be fun mathematics, but not science.

Critical Rationalism in Computer Programming: A Subtle but Crucial Influence

Critical rationalism is likely more implicitly embedded in the practices of computer programming than explicitly recognized. While programmers may not consciously invoke Popperian philosophy, the core principles of the discipline align closely with its tenets.

How Critical Rationalism Manifests in Programming