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I will really appreciate it if somebody could share the software. My lab owns the stimulator but when we acquired it we didn't get the software nor the drivers. Grass doesn't exist anymore and "Natus" which is the company that bought it told me that "S88X" is a discontinued product and they do not longer provide support for it.
Its crucial for us to control the device from a PC.
Thanks in advance
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Would anyone be able to sent the drivers and software to my email?
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Dear all, I am trying to do a synaptosomes preparation from Postmortem Human Prefrontal Cortex (frontal). I read few articles, they used 1 to 5 gram at the beginning. I started with low amount of frozen brain, around 300 mg (PMI < 4 hours). From 300 mg weight of prefrontal cortex, I generally obtain ~25 micrograms of total protein from isolated synaptosomes. 
Is anyone have any idea to increase the yield at the end (beside increasing the weight of the brain)? I do not have a high amount (weight) of human brain.
Each minced prep is immediately homogenized by applying 20 slow stokes using a teflon-glas tissue grinder (grinding chamber clearance is 0.15 mm). Then I use layering of discontinuous sucrose gradient.
I am thinking to use a glas-glas tissue grinder (grinding chamber clearance is 0.025 - 0.076 mm).
I welcome any idea.
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@citlali... It wasn't possible.
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Can we consider consciousness as a type of energy that supplies the brain with energy, given that the brain has very high resistance, up to 60 ohms, and in order to generate small currents within the brain, we would need a very high voltage? Additionally, Newton's first law states that an object at rest remains at rest unless acted upon by an external force. Is it possible that consciousness could be a source of energy for the brain? Could this be a valid possibility?
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“Is it possible to consider that consciousness is a kind of energy ?”
- really the question above looks as rather, if too, vague scientifically, since to answer to it, it is necessary before to understand – what are “consciousness” and “energy”; and, at that, it is necessary to understand what are some really fundamental phenomena/notions, first of all in this case “Matter”, “Space”, “Time”, “Information”; and “Consciousness” and “Energy”, which really fundamental phenomena/notions as well;
- whereas all these phenomena/notions are fundamentally completely transcendent/uncertain/irrational in mainstream philosophy and sciences; and for the posters in the thread.
The fundamental phenomena/notions above can be, and are, scientifically defined/understandable only in framework of the philosophical 2007 Shevchenko-Tokarevsky’s “The Information as Absolute” conception, recent version of the basic paper see
https://arxiv.org/abs/1004.3712 , more see at least a couple of dozens of pages in this link.
If briefly – “Matter” – and so any material structure, and any “Consciousness”, including human’s one, are fundamentally different informational systems, which are based on fundamentally different sets of basic laws/links/constants, and so exist and operate, i.e. change their states, say if some Matter’s particle moves, or some consciousness thinks, in fundamentally different spaces, which only a bit partially intercrossed. If Matter’s space, and a motion in the space are well instinctively observable, however nobody saw where some thought is.
Energy fundamentally isn’t something either material or relating to a consciousness, that is – really rather mystic till now even in the SS&VT conception above phenomenon, however about which it is known already that energy is absolutely fundamental phenomenon - a “Quantity”, which isn’t some concrete informational pattern/system, however it is absolutely fundamentally necessary for any pattern/system could change, including be created.
So really “consciousness on Erath” that every living being has, just so Life on Earth exists, though more correctly every, again – fundamentally non-material - consciousness – a bacterium’s of a human’s one, uses fundamentally practically material living beings’ organisms [animals, including humans – body+brain] as stable residence and power supply that provide specific energy consumption by non-material consciousness functional modules.
The practically material brain is only power supply module and an auxiliary functional module at consciousness operation, say, it is used as “mother board” and “hard disk” in the “computer+program” system “consciousness”;
- etc., more see the link above, to read the SS&VT initial functional consciousness model in https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329539892_The_Information_as_Absolute_conception_the_consciousness it is useful as well.
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I have some EDA data from a colleague's project that I want to analyze. Looking into the data, I discovered that the sampling rate is relatively low - it is only 2 Hz. However, the literature I read suggested that the sampling rate should be at least 200 Hz. So, it seems the sampling rate is not high enough for analyzing the phasic components of EDA. Still, as I am completely new in the field of EDA, I would like to ask for your opinion:
Can I still conduct meaningful analysis of phasic SCRs?
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Mattes Kappert According to Cho et al., (2021), The phasic activity of the signal represents has been shown to occur in the frequency range of 0.08 Hz to 0.33 Hz while the tonic signal is captured in the frequency range of 0.010 Hz to 0.033 Hz. if 0.33 Hz is phasic, twice that frequency is 0.66 Hz and that exists in the band of data you have.
Here is a link to Cho's article.
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Commercially available BDNF is human recombinant protein. Can you use it for stimulating primary neuronal cultures of mice and rats? If yes, what is the basis of this cross species activity?
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The BDNF protein has more than 95% sequence similarity among human, rat and mouse. In theory, it can be used to stimulate rat and mouse cells.
By the way, CUSABIO has the recombinant human BDNF work for you. Activity validated. Maybe it works for you.
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How do you research and bring work together?
You may use the technique of consilience without knowing it.
Read this definition and then let me know how you use consilience in your work.
Highlights:
In science and history, consilience (also convergence of evidence or concordance of evidence) is the principle that evidence from independent, unrelated sources can "converge" on strong conclusions. That is, when multiple sources of evidence are in agreement, the conclusion can be very strong even when none of the individual sources of evidence is significantly so on its own. Most established scientific knowledge is supported by a convergence of evidence: if not, the evidence is comparatively weak, and there will not likely be a strong scientific consensus.
The principle is based on the unity of knowledge; measuring the same result by several different methods should lead to the same answer. For example, it should not matter whether one measures distances within the Giza pyramid complex by laser rangefinding, by satellite imaging, or with a meter stick – in all three cases, the answer should be approximately the same. For the same reason, different dating methods in geochronology should concur, a result in chemistry should not contradict a result in geology, etc.
The word consilience was originally coined as the phrase "consilience of inductions" by William Whewell (consilience refers to a "jumping together" of knowledge).[1][2] The word comes from Latin com- "together" and -siliens "jumping" (as in resilience).[3]
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Dear Colleague Michael Marek,
Yes, this is so often the case. My husband who is an active observational planetary scientist says how often the "devil" is in the details of data analysis.
Our short story collection, Children of Steel, is being considered by Wayne State UP, BTW. It is a collection of short fiction by people who grew up in steel mill towns. I just noticed where you retired from teaching.
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I tried several approaches from different publications that describe in the methods section that PCPA (http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/sigma/c6506?lang=en&region=GB) was dissolved in 10N NaOH and the pH was then neutralised with HCl. But it did not work out for me.
I would be so grateful if anyone could explain me how exactly he/she managed to dissolve it.
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I am using saline with 2% Tween 80 for ip injections. It is still not perfect, you must homogenize the solution before each injection, but it is far more soluble than saline alone.
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I need to assay dopamine, noradrenaline and serotonin of rat brain during my research project, but I couldn't find ELISA kits which are suitable for rat brain samples.
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Hi Ghulam, indeed if you consider selectivity and sensitivity, HPLC coupled to electrochemical detection would be method of choice for the analysis of neurotransmitters in rat/mice brain. Concentration levels up to 50 pmol/L and lower are achievable with only 5 uL sample volume injected. So it can be used in both micro dialysis experiments as well as the analysis of brain tissue (homogenates). See for example:
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The role of astroglia in brain function has been well studied since the use of fluorescence microscopy (in vitro and in vivo two-photon imaging) began in the 1990's.
Verkhratsky and Needergaard (2018) have shown, beyond reasonable scientific doubt, that astrocytes control chemical homeostasis in the whole brain. However, the role of calcium waves in this control of homeostasis is still not consensual among the experts.
The existence of large-scale calcium waves has been proven and imaged 'in vivo' with two-photon fluorescence microscopy. Thrane et al (2012) showed that general anesthetics selectively eliminate these waves. Recently the structure of these waves has been imaged and analysed, but their function(s) is (are) still not well identified.
References:
Thrane AS, Rangroo Thrane V, Zeppenfeld D, Lou N, Xu Q, Nagelhus EA, Nedergaard M. (2012) General anesthesia selectively disrupts astrocyte calcium signaling in the awake mouse cortex. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A.109(46):18974-9.
Verkhratsky A, Nedergaard (2018) M. Physiology of Astroglia. Physiol Rev. 98(1):239-­‐389.
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The "paradox" above appears because astrocytes control brain homeostasis according to the valence of the stimulus. Therefore, excitation can be turned into inhibition, or vice-versa, according to the adaptive process in which the brain responds to stimulation, moves away from homeostatic equilibrium, and then reaches a stable region far from equilibrium, or recovers equilibrium after crossing a unstable phase. I mentioned this type of process in my 2010 paper with Furlan:
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Please feel free to point me at papers, lecture notes, and books that would cover the basics as to allow a non specialist to start engaging with people whose occupation is to understand links between nervous system and behaviour in small animals / organisms (worms, insects, reptiles would be a good start).
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Hi again Herve,
Here are two short articles by Paul Katz- a former President of the ISN- one about the field itself, and the other a kind of "review" of the International Congress of Neuroethology that took place in Sapporo in 2014.
Enjoy!
Peter
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In specific could stimulation of the right DLPFC have a different effect to stimulation of the left hemisphere?
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Nice Contribution Michael A. Hunter
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Corpus callosum is the main bond between the brain’s left and right hemispheres. It is sometimes damaged or cut out because of a disease, this is called split brain, in this case the two halves of brain do not exchange information efficiently. In one experiment a word was flashed briefly to the right field of view of a split brain patient and the patient was asked what he saw and because the input from the right field of view is processed by the left hemisphere which is also responsible for verbal processing the patient’s answer matched the word, next the word was flashed to his left field of view and the experiment was repeated and the patient said that he did not see anything but when he was asked to draw a picture with his left hand he drew a picture of the word. The question is are there some stimuli in our environment that we can’t sense but affect our decisions? In other words do we decide or our behavior may be a reaction to the things that we are not aware of?
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It seems similar to what is told to happen in hypnosis: telling a person to do something after hypnosis, that person ( sometime) can do it after hypnosis without remembering the order.
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I am trying to design carbonate apatite nanoparticles that might cross the endothelial layer of brain capillary (blood brain barrier-BBB). Thus, an in vitro system would be a better option (easy to understand and faster) to check the permeability of particles before moving to an in vivo model. I am looking for an in vitro BBB system that can be used for this purpose. I have seen the co-culturing systems discussed by many researchers. Are the co-culturing system with the filter available commercially?
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You can look up Mimetas and easily make a BBB model with their OrganoPlate https://mimetas.com/overview-mimetas-applications/human-blood-brain-barrier
There was a paper published in February this year in Scientific Reports with this platform: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-20876-2
Hope it helps!
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the recent researches have shown that blind people react(smile) to the smile of a person in front of them. how this connection occures?
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Professor Zeashan Khan,
Thank you very much.
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I want to create separate masks for right and left hemispheres of the following regions:
ventro medial prefrontal ctx (vmPFC), dorso medial prefrontal ctx dmPFC), anterior middle cingulate ctx (mACC), posterior cingulate (PCC), precuneus (PC), inferior parietal lobule (IPL) and hippocampus (in parts if possble).
Any advice on which FSL atlas I could use greatly appreciated
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Hi Sean,
Sure, see attached. The readme file has the necessary info to create the ROIs. All the best!
-Ranga
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Hello,
I'm trying to image neurons every 15 min for 24 hours. My neurons don't even get past the 6h mark before dying. 
I plate my neurons on precoated ibidi chambers and use Dil at 5ul/1ml from 1mM stock with an incubation time of 5 minutes. After labeling, I replenish with fresh media plus some of the old media (growth factors) with added FBS. I've been adding 10% FBS because a neighboring lab found that longterm imaging without FBS of labeled neurons can cause the neurons to die.
The causes of death I'd like to rule out are (1) FBS or (2) Dil concentration/incubation time. Previously I had been imaging via phase contrast with phenol red in my media and that didn't seem to harm the neurons (although this was a 12 hr time lapse). 
If anyone can help me out I'd greatly appreciate it!! Thanks!
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 Hi Angelica,
Depending on the specifics of your experiment, you might also try doing transient transfection of a membrane bound fluorophore (e.g. mGFP https://www.addgene.org/14757/). I've done such transfections in on primary neural culture using CaPO4 method and Lipofectamine. In each case, the key was to optimize concentrations and incubation.
Best of luck, 
Joey 
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Two papers are using the method.
One attached and the other cited here: "Single rodent mesohabenular axons release glutamate and GABA" Root et al  2014
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Supplemental figure 3 and supplemental text from "Cho JH, Deisseroth K, Bolshakov VY. Synaptic encoding of fear extinction in mPFC-amygdala circuits. Neuron. 2013 Dec 18;80(6):1491-507." have a very nice explanation of the logic behind using TTX and 4-AP isolating monosynaptic inputs. They also show a positive control in which disynaptic inputs are not rescued by 4-AP. Here is a link to their supplemental materials: 
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Can we infer levels of one from the measures of the others?
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Dear Andrea, epigenetics certainly plays a role in regulating BDNF promoters activity. If you are interested in this topic, you may see these papers (among others). Kind regards, Enrico
Mallei A, Baj G, Ieraci A, Corna S, Musazzi L, Lee FS, Tongiorgi E, Popoli M. Expression and Dendritic Trafficking of BDNF-6 Splice Variant are Impaired in Knock-In Mice Carrying Human BDNF Val66Met Polymorphism. Int J Neuropsychopharmacol. 2015 Jun 24;18(12)
Chen KW, Chen L. Epigenetic Regulation of BDNF Gene during Development and Diseases. Int J Mol Sci. 2017 Mar 6;18(3).
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Reading papers I've found out that most interneurons express Calbindin, Calretinin and Parvalbumin, however I've also read that some pyramidal neurons do so as well, so I'm not too sure about using those genes for a interneuron molecular marker.
My intentions are not to study interneurons directly, but rather to localise them to rule them out of my actual research questions, that are related to pyramidal neurons.
Do you know of an interneuron molecular marker that:
1. Is expressed in most interneurons at developmental times AND
2. Is not expressed in pyramidal (excitatory) neurons
Thanks in advance!
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Hi Sebastian
The markers you mention (parvalbumin, calbindin and calretinin) may be useful in marking cortical interneurons but, as you correctly mention, they stain some excitatory neurons, particularly in the thalamus. We typically use GAD65/67 to label GABA-ergic interneurons, and ChAT to identify cholinergic interneurons of the striatum. I don't recall ever looking at glycinergic interneurons.
We previously attempted to use several different CAMKIIa antibodies to label cortical pyramidal neurons without success due to its presence in some neurons without a pyramidal morphology (perhaps it marks projection neurons generally rather than pyramidal neurons specifically?).
I hope you find this helpful.
Best wishes,
Daniel
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Does anyone know the best method to quantify cell viability/cell death in DRG neuronal primary culture from mice? One can it be detected with a change in morphology? I am looking for some colorimetric or flourescence based assays. I looked up some literature, and many have tried the MTT assay, but I am looking for something specific for neuronal cells. Any help will be appreciated in this regard.
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Dear Jagadeesh, I agree with Swati, you can use PI. I suggest another method, the double labelling of cleaved caspase-3(apoptosis) and MAP-2 (neurons). Thus, you can quantify by fow cytometry or by IF.  
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I am designing a stimulator for both muscle and cortical neurons stimulation to be used in physiology laboratory and after reading some papers I am still a bit puzzled about the best range of some of the parameters related to the outputs such as:
1.range and resolution of the amplitude of the output current ( I am using a 16-bit DAC)
2. maximum compliant voltage required to be adequate for the stimulation with most of the electrodes (in most cases it is mentioned that 12 volts is enough , although 80 or 100 volts has been mentioned in some other cases due to high impedance electrodes).
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I know that the amplitude of the output current depends on the distance of the electrode tip from the nerve and also the fact that the pulse duration also influences the proper amplitude.But I still need to know the best range for different applications.
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FYI, the stimulator I normally use for human muscle stimulation is the Digitimer DS7AH. We require the electrode-tissue impedance to be 10 kOhm or less when measured at 30 Hz. It typically is in the 5-10 kOhm range. Though in my previous post I said that some persons require up to 600 mA to optimally stimulate their quadriceps, most persons rarely require more than 400 mA. I also forgot to mention that we use a pulse duration of 0.2 ms.
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We are working with an in vitro model of blood brain barrier (BBB) using bEND3 cells and oxygen/glucose deprivation procedure to study the BBB damage during a cerebral ischemia. We have realised that there is an important variability between plates and even between wells in the same plate. Is there someone with the same problem? Any idea?
Thanks for your answers,
Pau
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What are your end point measurements?
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Many of the epilepsy syndromes have their seizures linked to circadian rhythm like Infantile spasms, Benign rolandic epilepsy, Juvenile myoclonic epilepsy?
What happens in the body physiology particularly in the first 30 to 180 minutes upon awakening that lead to increase cortical excitability and hence the seizure occurrence? 
Is it hormonal like the cortisol awakening response ?
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Thanks Chaitra_Ramachandraiah
The paper was more descriptive of the Chronodependency in JME but yet it did not discuss why IEDs and seizurez do occur upon awakening !!
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In axons, action potentials can move both in ortho-dromic (normal) direction as well as in anti-dromic direction, if stimulated in the right way. But what happens if two action potentials are generated simultaneously, one in the distal axon end and one at the soma, that are moving towards each other to collide? Will they penetrate (move past each other) or annihilate?
According to classical Hodgkin-Huxley model and theory of neurophysiology they will annihilate due to the in-activation of the sodium conductance. This effect has also given rise to the experimental method called "the collision test", which is used to confirm axon projection from one brain region to another by means of antidromic stimulation. 
Nevertheless, a recent paper claims that two colliding action potentials will penetrate just as two colliding waves on a sea of water:
My question: Does anyone know the original literature about collision of action potentials? This must be back in the 1950'ties or 1940'ties. Who did the investigation and what are the publication references?  I have been trying to find the original papers, because I am sure that scientist investigated this back in those days. The only one I could find was this:
I. Tasaki, Collision of Two Nerve Impulses in the Nerve Fiber, Biochim. Biophys. Acta 3, 494 (1949).
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Hello everyone.
Finally our rebuttal comment has been accepted for publication in Physical Review X, almost 2 years after our first submission. We could not reproduce the observation of penetration of action potentials by the Heimburg group. Instead we consistently observed annihilation of colliding action potentials.
Further we show that their measurements of action potential velocity was flawed and indicate that their measurement electrodes were so close to the stimulation electrodes, that 1) they could not contain two action potentials 2) passive propagation may explain part of their observations. 
Also, they did not demonstrate the All-or-none property of action potentials, which again suggest that they observe either activation of multiple nerves, or they generate passive electric signals. Attached is preprints and supplementary information.
Cheers!
Rune
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I have a trouble to carry out cerebellar slices in the cryostat. I have samples embedded in tissuetek and I'm cutting slices of 5 to 20 micrometers. However, the majority of slices has many holes. This is a trouble because I need to detect an a injury (with a tincion process, in the myelin), but if all whole sample its full of this holes I cant detect anything, in fact is like if all cerebellum has injury. The blades are new, I use 25-30° for cut and I use an antiroller (I haven't paraffin, then I use tissuetek). At beggining (one month ago aprox) the slices were fine, I mean, the cutting process was the same and the results are fine, but now I have this situation. Somebody can help me and giveme tips?
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Hi Abraham, there are several reasons why you are getting slices of poor quality. Firstly, check and make sure that your solutions are fresh and peoperly prepared (concentration and pH). Both, old PFA and wrong molarity of PBS may screw-up the quality of your slices. Secondly, make sure that the perfusion rate is not too fast. Check the literature and make adjustments according to the animals you use. Third, post-fixation i.e. keeping too long in PFA and poor dehydration prior to slicing can deteriorate the quality of your sections. The presence of water in frozen brain tissue can tear the tissue on parts. It is important therefore that the material is kept in sucrose until it floats to the surface. Finally, adjust the temperature of the cryo slicer as over-freezing the tissue may cause its breakage. If you follow these steps, the holes should vanish as they came. Best luck with your slices and let me know how you progress, SV
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Dear all,
I was wondering if anyone of you know of a comparative study between hardwired (cable) sleep measure and telemetry. Specifically, my interest is to know whether sleep stages are affected by being attached to a cable and if then the results are reliable.
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I would say telemetry is for sure better
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We have mice expressing a Flag-tagged protein (only one flag epitope) at endogenous levels. We have major problems (non specific labeling; particularly strong in the olfactory bulb) with most antibodies in our perfusion-fixed brain sections. Anyone has ever used anti-FLAG antibodies to label mouse brain proteins? Any advice? Best fixative to be used? Aware of a specfiic antibody?
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Dear Ivan,
no, we have never been able to solve this problem. Sorry I cannot help at the moment.
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Would like to know the feasibility and actual depth (areas of the brain) which could be reached with rTMD
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Dear Peter, as far as I know TMS acts by inducing an electrical field in the brain (i.e. spatial distribution of voltage) which in turn will produce electrical current depedning on the resitence that it finds. It is thought therefore that large collections of CSF may facilitate the presence of induced current. It has been long thought that in the interhemispheric fissure an efficient current could be developed in deeper structures than in the brain parenchima, probably due to the width of the inter-hemispheric sulcus. In older literature the induction of phosphenes was taken as a good measure of how deep stimulation can go in the inter-hemispheric fissure. Indeed, given the peculiar distribution of the retinotopic representation in V1, the wider the angle of the phosphene, the deeper you go with TMS. According to this view, depth of stimulatn was considered as much as 4 cm. This has been however challnged in recent work on the possible origin from extra-V1 (V2 and V3) cortices of TMS-induced phosphenes. In other words, there is little empirical data that can answer your question. You may find several works claiming that supplementary and pre-supplementary motor areas, with compatible behavioral effects. Putting together these data it seems that with conventional figure-of-8 coils you may reach as far as around 2 cm from the brain surface (my opinion! Not demonstrated!) You probably may find a better answer looking at the literature on modeling the electrical current (not electric field) in realistic brain models, whcih unfortunately  don't know much about. Good luck.
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Hello, all. My areas of research are memory and neurodegeneration, and I am not very well versed in the HIV-related dementia/HAND literature. So, if there is someone here reading this that is, I would be grateful for some feedback.
Basically, we have some data showing a strong correlation between a (relatively) novel memory measure we have been developing (recency ratio) and CD4 count, thus suggesting this memory measure is sensitive to infection levels. Of note, this is independent on general cognitive ability (MMSE) and was measured in a relatively young population. Also, CD4 does not appear to be correlated significantly with other measures of memory in this sample, including immediate recency (which has been reported in several papers before as a typical sign of cogntive impairment in HIV).
My question is: Is this finding of interest beyond simply reporting another cognitive correlate of decline in HIV? Is there any utility in this cognitive marker for screening and/or clinical assessment?
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HIV is associated with difficulties in many cognitive domains, including short term memory which eventually gets consolidated into long term memory and learning.
A full screen for cognitive functions is essential for all HIV patients, especially those that can expose themselves or others to harm from cognitive impairment.
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Currently, I'm using mT/mG reporter mice to check the cre activity of this Ert2 cre mice.
mT/mG mouse is supposed to autofluoresce without any additional staining or immunohistochemistry necessary. Nestin.CreERT2 is the transgenic mice that express CreERT2 under the control of the nestin promoter and enhancer. the cre will become activated by administration of tamoxifen.
After the cross breeding, my study is about neonatal brain,so the fist IP inject at P6 of pups, 0.25mg per body weight. 48h later, the second IP injection at P8, then 24h later, the P9 pups were perfused with cold 0.9% saline. After brain dissociation, brains were fixed 24h in PFA at 4, cryoprotected in 30% sucrose overnight at 4, and embedded in OCT for cryosection. 20 micrometer sections were mounted on slices directly.
the problem is I cannot see any fluorescence signal by using a traditional fluorescent microscope, even without any red fluorescence (mT, tdTomato), I'm thinking do I expose the slice in light a long time? Does this effect a lot? Is there some problems of the microscope? is it better change to confocal? Do I have some problems about the administration, such as the duration, the amount?
ANY SUGGESTIONS WILL BE APPRECIATED ?
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Hello Tao,
I don't know exactly which reporter line you are using, but are you sure that killing the animals 3 days after the first injection is enough time to have detectable expression of your reporter? For my experiments using inducible Cre lines I normally wait a week after injecting tamoxifen to have strong labelling.
Also, keep in mind that Nestin is only expressed in neural progenitor cells, and that depending on the timing of induction you will label different cells. Since you are injecting tamoxifen postnatally, when most of the neurogenesis is done, you will probably only label a small number of cells.
Look at Fig 1D of the following publication to have an idea of where you would expect to see labelled cells. Your samples should look be similar to what is shown in panel d4 (tamoxifen injected at P7).
I hope this helps!
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the neuron differentiate from neurosphere in Neurobasal+B27+LG is less than in neurobasal. I wonder the effect of B27 in the medium.
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Dear Zhi,
I've used the B27 for my neurospheres as well as for Astrocytes and Neurons differentiation. I used 3% B27 (50X) from Gibco along with   0.5% N2 (100X), 1% ABAM, 1% glutamax, 1% BSA and EGF for the first stages of proliferation then I switch the media by just replacing the EGF with FCS (still with B27) for the differentiation stages.The media improved my cells viability and proliferation. Basically, the astrocytes differentiation was very normal and their viability was perfect in the media containing the B27.
Hope you're gap is solved soon.
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Can I use Tail suspension test to evaluate the antidepressant using Rat? As I saw that TST is mostly utilized in mice, but I am looking for an authenticated reference of the use of Rats (however very few papers I found) please help me regarding this? 
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No, you shouldn't use the tail suspension test in rats as they are too heavy to be supported by the tips of their tails, unlike mice. You are always recommended to lift rats by the base of the tail (i.e. near the body) and only for short periods of time (i.e. moving from one cage to another). I typically lift rats by the base of the tail and place onto my forearm, holding the base of the tail firmly to prevent the rat from jumping off but not bearing any weight on the tail. The tail suspension test involves leaving a mouse suspended by the tip of the tail for 5-6 minutes; doing this in a rat would cause much higher levels of stress and pain to the rat. This would most likely mask any antidepressant effect you may be looking for.
As Leonardo suggests, the forced swim test would be the standard test to use with rats in such studies. To complement the forced swim test you could also time the amount of time spent grooming in an open field test (spontaneous grooming) and in the splash test (induced grooming). Taken together, you should have a good idea of whether your treatment is having an antidepressant effect. Obviously do the open field and splash tests in advance of the forced swim test as you do not want the stress of the forced swim test to have an effect on other tasks.
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If one uses antibodies against VGLUT1 and synaptophysin to stain in WT cultured hippocampal neurons, one expects the immunosignals to co-localize, since both are synaptic vesicle specific proteins. how to explain the finding of solely vglut1 signals? I understand if I have only synaptophysin signals, maybe I thereby detected vgat expressing neurons, but synaptic vesicles that are positive for vglut1 and not stained with anti synaptophysin antibody?
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I am not surprized by negative syn terminals
for example VGLUT2 and VGLUT3 (on which we work) very poorly colocalize with syn
and only half a gaba terminals are syn-positive
with VGLUT1 I would estmate that around 20% of VGLUT1-positive terminals are syn-negative
How to explain it ?? I don't know for sure
1) if you look at these synaptic proteins they are heterogeneous not only between synapses but also inside synapses
2) as far as I know the role of synaptophysin is not clear
3) and we do not have a generic marker of all synpases
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We aim to prepare and stimulate acute brain Slices from different fish species. Does anyone know if this has been done before?
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Dear Ida,
In addition to wonderful comments above, if you decide to go ahead with vibratom slices, have a look at my methods paper below for detailed description of how to cut brain slices in mice. You may need the modify the extracellular solution and some of the procedures as suggested by Kjetil, but the general principles should be pretty much the same.
Best wishes, Refik
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Neoangiogenesis makes some contribution to brain-blood barrier deteriorations, and to the progressive escalation of chronic epileptic manifestations. That is why it is of interest to clarify question on the role played by neoangiogenesis in kindled seizures development.
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Dear Nirmala, thanks a lot for your letter and recommended addresses (!)
Sincerely, Leon
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Sensory information from our limbs (touch and proprioception) reaches somatosensory I cortex (SI) by making two synapses (one at cuneate nucleus (medula) and one at VPN of thalamus). I wonder how this information is used to build a body integrity identity. What are the other pathways between SI, SII and other cortical regions that have role in body integrity identity?
I want to note that I found lots of cognitive studies, but I mostly wonder about the basic physiology of body integrity identiy.
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I think it is not motor shaping or self-experiencing input. Rather a delicate EPSP/IPSP dance goes on between ascending and descending inputs to insure reproduction of successful movement and not failed ones. We found that partial deafferentation by dorsal column or dorsal column nuclei lesion causes causes a permanent lose of fine finger actions. However dorsal rhizotomy from C2 to T5 results in full recovery of hand movement. This may show that unblocked sensory input becomes motor disduptive noise. Eliminate the noise and forelimb manipulative control of the hand returns to the monkey
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My antibody: rabbit-anti 5-HT from ImmunoStar (#20080). I am working w/ rat spinal cord tissue (cryo, 20um, longitudinal sections). I can't get my protocol to work, so any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Hi Emma,
Immunofluorescence / immunohistochemistry can be tricky and quantitative analysis of the results even more difficult.  Positive and negative controls are essential, especially if antigen retrieval protocols are used.  The first manuscript details IF on cryo sections of rat brain (not SC). 
I have attached some of our publications from which you can get a some idea of the different protocols for 5-HT IF, although none used the ImmunoStar Rabbit anti-5HT. We have used their Goat anti-5HT.  
R.S. Rahim, A.C.B. Meedeniya & D.I. Crane (2014) Central serotonergic neuron deficiency in a mouse model of Zellweger syndrome. Neuroscience, 274, 229–241.
R., Raghupathi, M., D., Duffield, L., Zelkas, A., Meedeniya, S., JH Brookes, T., Chen Sia, D., A Wattchow, N., J Spencer, D., J Keating (2013) Identification of unique release kinetics of serotonin from guinea-pig and human enterochromaffin cells. J. Physiol. 591(23):5959-5975.
Meedeniya, A.C.B., Brookes, S.J.H., Hennig, G.W. & Costa M. (1998) The projections of 5-hydroxytryptamine-accumulating neurones in the myenteric plexus of the small intestine of the guinea-pig. Cell Tissue Res, 291, 375-384.
Maria N. Nguyen, Brenton Cavanagh, Tavia Davenport, Anwar Norazit, Adrian Meedeniya (2010) Tissue sectioning for epifluorescence microscopy. In: Méndez-Vilas,A., Díaz, J. (Eds.) Microscopy: Science, Technology, Applications and Education, Vol. 2: 907-913, Formatex, Badajoz, Spain.ISBN (13): 978-84-614-6190-5.
All the best,
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I wonder if there is any test of visual working memory good to test  children aged 6-12? Is there any good test for selective attention of children aged 6-12? I will be very appreciated if I can know the advantages of the recommended test over other tests and if I get a link to some references. Thank you so much!
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There are a few tests out there. The most notable ones that I know of are the Corsi Block Test, which tests memorization of visuo-sptial information and sequencing. The Visual Pattern Test (or Task) does the same but without the sequencing aspect. Some research has found that the Corsi test engages different cognitive functioning than the VPT due to the absence or presence of sequencing. Another task I just read about asks the participant to compare patterns to one provided, bringing in decision-making and more executive functioning, as opposed to raw VS working memory. Personally, I'll be using the VPT, because sequencing adds another layer of cognitive processing.
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I am trying to understand the relationship between the healthy aging process and the development of the blood brain barrier disruption which might lead to several neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer's disease.
Finding a cure for such complicated diseases requires a good understanding of the underlying mechanisms that lead to the development of the disease and a healthy blood brain barrier plays a major role in preventing such diseases.
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Aging and BBB dysfunction is an interesting topic because its a high risk factor for developing neurodegenerative diseases. To my knowledge most of recent studies point at loss of tight junction proteins of the BBB with aging which is likely due to neuroinflammation. Infiltration of circulatory leukocytes and blood borne immunoglobines into the brain is a marker of BBB leakage that happens in aged humans. In aged mice however, only loss of TJ proteins of BBB was observed. I think its not clear which come first, neuroinflammation or BBB leakage. It could be systemic inflammation disrupts the BBB first and lead to infiltration of toxins to the brain that trigger neuroinflammation. Not sure if the brain itself with aging would autonomously initiate inflammation due to certain malfunctioning in metabolic processes and clearance pathways to remove waste byproducts !?.. I would love to here comments from experts in the field..
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I am currently working with the technical team at ACD Biosystems to resolve some background staining that I observe when using their fluorescent multiplex kit (http://www.acdbio.com/rnascope%C2%AE-multiplex-fluorescent-assay). I am hoping this method will allow me to measure knockdown of an shRNA-targeted mRNA. Unfortunately, the positive and negative controls are showing some background staining that is nonspecific. I would like to know if anyone else has worked with the RNA Scope protocol and could provide input on how things worked out for you. Thanks! 
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I would NOT recommend RNAscope for neuronal cell cultures. I was unable to get this to work and the company was very frustrating. I will try again since we bought it and can let you know if I have more luck. The company wanted me to essentially invest my time and money to troubleshoot/develop their assay..
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I am a beginner of electrophysiology. To block NMDAR, people always use D-AP5 or D-AP7, though it seems that D-AP5 is more commonly used than D-AP7. But as for AMPAR, it seems that CNQX, DNQX and NBQX are equally used. What's the difference between these three antagonists? How to decide which one is suitable in what kind of recording?
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Hi Aifang,
as you indicate all of them are AMPA receptor antagonists however they differ in their selectivity and potency.
CNQX. Blocks AMPA/kainate but it is also an antagonist at the glycine site in NMDAR
DNQX. It is a selective NON-NMDAR antagonist (kainate & quisqualate)
NBQX. Potent and selective AMPA antagonist, although it also works on kainate.
If you just want to block AMPA I would use NBQX.
Hope this helps,
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We need to inject drugs into rat brain regularly, but that would do too much damage given to the needed frequency. We tried nano particle strategy and  those commercial SR pumps, but they didn't work well in our experiments. So I wonder if there's any other validated ways to inject the drug once and let it perform sustained release itself. Many thanks.
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have you heard of the Alzet brain infusion system? We have used them in mice and it is basically an Alzet mini osmotic pump which you insert subcutaneously on the flank which is attached to a guide canulae inserted into which ever brain region is desired. The ones we have used give constant infusion but I think you can get ones where you can programme drug delivery at set time points. http://www.alzet.com/products/brain_infusion_kit/index.html
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Dear all, we are now trying to set our Electrophysiology machine. The referred unit in litterature which provides the settings with the unit of log cd s/m2, but for our machine we can only set it in the unit of cd s/m2. Hence I would like to ask how to convert this log cd s/m2 to cd s/m2.
So here is the question:  -5.45 log cd s/m2
A. 10-5.45 cd s/m2;
B. 2-5.45 cd s/m2;
C. e-5.45 cd s/m2.
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The answer is "A".  Visual physiology/photometric units use a base 10 log scale. 
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DG , CA1, CA2 and CA3 absent in fish. 
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Distinct type of  " Purkinje cells " not seen in mammals 
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Hello everyone. 
We are intending to study the effect of TBI on BF neurons. I did some literature search and found both FPI and CCI model have been used for this purpose. Between these two models, which one will be more appropriate to study the BF? 
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Dear Nanthini Jayabalan,
Both models are adequate to study TBI as are both well described in rats and other animals. I think I would choose the CCI model for this purpose (BF) because it can produce a more localized injury. Please take a time to read this paper, it may be of value to you:
Best regards,
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I am trying to do a ROS assay in Drosophila larval brain using 30uM DHE. But I have no reference image to compare to. Also, since the sample is too thick, most of the staining is superficial. How can I troubleshoot this?
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Dear Sourajit Das!
You can try to do embedding process in fresh tissues and reduce the concentration of staining, inhibition time and do one more time for destining process. i will be good observation... all the best
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It is known that women have higher brain perfusion than men, but I'm strugling on finding reportes about mice in physiological conditions. I'm using 8-10 month mice and DCE-MRI, but evidence from any other technique or rodent would be of great value. Thanks in advance!
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Thank you for the reference, however it refers to vessel diameter and not cerebral blood flow. Since females have larger vessel, does the perfusion is also smaller?
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Immediately after brain isolation hippocampus was isolated and with the help of tissue chopper 300 micron thick slices were prepared. The slices were incubated at 32 c in ACSF for about 60 minutes.When we tried to record the data with MEA2100 system I did not find any spontaneous activity with the slice.
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We use MEA2100 and compared chopped and vibratome cut slices. Vibratome cut is healthier. We put weight on the slice (silver coil, platinum would be better for sure) when we do the MEA recording on non-perforatted MEA.
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There are dozens of various EEG-patterns, separated during investigations on brain's electrophysiology. But are there any clues or identified association between these patterns and the processes in neuronetworks (at logical or even biochemical levels)? The interest lies especially in the set of pathological EEG-patterns, such as spike-waves etc.
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I recomend reading this one and some other works by R.I. Machinskaya who is a great expert in visual analysis of EEG patterns and their comparison with behavioral and cognitive deficits in children of defferent ages
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I have arguments this structure is of nodal-setting kind. How much animal brain is accessible for such examination?
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Hello Renzo
The exact form, as smth common for all engrams, evidently may not be presented as a scientifical result. These are much different evidently. But it is my hypothesis there is for all that the common structural form for long-memory engramms -- the nodal-setting form. The question is whether it may be proved or disproved.
More about it is here:
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Wondering how many synapses are formed by individual axons from medial entorhinal cortex onto individual dentate gyrus granule cells.
Has anyone ever estimated this by any chance ?
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This is what I could find from Lopez-Rojas & Kreutz, 2016 (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763415303171):
Granule cells have some features that predestine them for a function in pattern separation. They exhibit an unusual low firing rate (Jung and McNaughton, 1993 and Pernia-Andrade and Jonas, 2014), theoretically increasing the probability that different granule cells will encode similar inputs, and they outnumber both their presynaptic entorhinal partners and their postsynaptic CA3 pyramidal targets by an order of magnitude (in rats there are around 112,000 principal cells in layer II of the entorhinal cortex, 250,000 CA3 pyramidal cells and 1,200,000 granule cells). A single granule cell also has synaptic contacts with a reduced number (like a dozen) of CA3 pyramids. This results in a divergence in the projection from the entorhinal cortex to the dentate gyrus and a convergence from the dentate to the CA3 (Amaral et al., 1990, Amaral et al., 2007 and Schmidt et al., 2012) and it allows for an orthogonalization of the information that the dentate receives from the entorhinal cortex while it is relayed to the CA3 region (Aimone et al., 2011, Kesner and Rolls, 2015, Sahay et al., 2011b and Schmidt et al., 2012). Substantial experimental evidence supports this computational function of the dentate gyrus (Bakker et al., 2008, Gilbert et al., 2001 and Goodrich-Hunsaker et al., 2008). Interestingly pattern completion, the ability to recall information from a reduced number of inputs and classically attributed to CA3 region, has recently also been related to the dentate gyrus (Kropff et al., 2015, Nakashiba et al., 2012 and Temprana et al., 2015).
And from Amaral, Scharfman & Lavenex, 2008 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2492885/):
The dentate granule cell
The principal cell type of the dentate gyrus is the granule cell (Figs. 4 and and5).5). The dentate granule cell has an elliptical cell body with a width of approximately 10 μm and a height of 18 μm (Claiborne et al., 1990). The granule cell bodies are tightly packed together and, in most cases, there is no glial sheath interposed between cells. The granule cell has a characteristic cone-shaped tree of spiny apical dendrites. The branches extend throughout the molecular layer and the distal tips of the dendritic tree end just at the hippocampal fissure or at the ventricular surface. The total length of the dendritic trees of granule cells located in the suprapyramidal blade are, on average, larger than those of cells in the infrapyramidal blade (3500 μm vs. 2800 μm, respectively). Dendrites of cells in the suprapyramidal blade have 1.6 spines/μm, whereas dendrites in the infrapyramidal blade have 1.3 spines/μm (Desmond and Levy, 1985). Thus, an estimate for the number of spines on the average suprapyramidal granule cell would be around 5600 and for an infrapyramidal cell 3640. Since virtually all of the excitatory inputs to granule cells are on these dendritic spines, these numbers indicate the approximate number of excitatory synapses that dentate granule cells receive from all sources. As noted earlier, the total number of granule cells in one dentate gyrus of the rat is ∼1.2 × 106 (West et al., 1991; Rapp and Gallagher, 1996). Although neurogenesis in the dentate gyrus persists into adulthood, and appears to be under environmental control, modern stereological studies have shown that the total number of granule cells does not vary in adult animals (Rapp and Gallagher, 1996). This implies that there is a steady state turnover of granule cells rather than a continuous
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Some people claim that this is correct bcause physical variables (such as brain measures or so) don't change across the country
It doesn't seem right, but I'm not sure how to argue against this from a medical perspective (I can using social and cultural definitions, but I need something "harder" more related to medicine).
Can anyone give me a hand? :-)
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In the drug abuse research field, an important distinction is whether subjects are treatment-seeking or non-treatment-seeking.
Here's an example from non-drug-abuse psychiatry:
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Does anybody of you know where to find nice pictures giving more information about how the brain is structured in detail ? (Like this one in the link.)
Same question for Neurotransmitter systems. Is there a nice collection and summary of what is known so far ?
Thanks !
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If it helps, the picture you posted is one of Thomas Deerinck's pictures of the cerebellum - see link: 
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Compared to other kind of fonts in the early stages of the acquisition of the processes of reading and writing
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Hello 
I do really appreciate  your wide contribution to our search!
I will start reading the material.
thanx again!
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can anyone help me about whether excitatory neuron and inhibitory neuron are colocalized or their locations are nearby? especially on drosophila, thanks a lot
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Hi,
your first approach should probably be antibody staining. You may be able to co-stain for glutamate and GABA in Drosophila, although the antibodies we've recently used are both in rabbit (see Perisse et al., 2016 and Owald et al., 2015).
If you have identified the neurons and have driver lines for it, ideally you can use a GAL4 and LexA combination with GFP/RFP to unambiguously see their overlap/proximity. Using tools such as GRASP you can also see if they potentially synapse onto one another. In our recent paper (Perisse et al., 2016), we have successfully shown GABAergic inhibition onto a glutamatergic neuron by ways of odour-stimulating the glutamatergic neuron while at the same time optogenetically exciting the GABAergic neuron, which led to a marked decrease in activity of the glutamatergic neuron.
One last note: glutamatergic doesn't have to mean excitatory in Drosophila. Most excitatory synapses are probably cholinergic, and glutamate was shown to be potentially inhibitory (Liu et al., 2013).
Let me know if you have further questions.
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I'm interested in investigating the nuclear role of ChAT, however all the published information I've been able to find is for human ChAT in the nucleus.  Anyone know if mouse ChAT also traffics into the nucleus?  It does have a predicted NLS, but I haven't found any studies specifically identifying ChAT in mouse nuclei.
I'm new to neuroscience work, so this may be a well-known thing that I'm just oblivious to
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Dear Maureen,
How did the previous studies identified/localised ChAT in the nucleus? What methods did they use specifically. If it is just immunolabelling, I would be very sceptical about it. In unhealthy cells, the nuclear membranes are disrupted and permeabilised to let antibodies and probes in the the nucleus. See my previous discussions on that subject below.
best wishes, Refik
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Does anyone know of a brain bank or researcher that will have brain tissue from patients that were born preterm? Is it something that is recorded??
thanks!
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Thank you Validimir. However the question is about ADULT brain samples from people who were born preterm. The practical issues of banking and ethics I understand, but it's the precise samples that I am after.
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When the neuron fires, there is a slow accumulation of potassium in the extracellular medium. However, I couldn't find the exact time scale of accumulation of potassium accumulation with respect to the firing activity of the neuron. Please help me in this regard as to after how long of persistent activity does the extracellular levels of potassium starts prominently increasing (inspite of the glial buffering activity).
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extracellular potassium accumulation is modelled as part of the paper:
The Sodium-Potassium Pump Controls the Intrinsic Firing of the Cerebellar Purkinje Neuron
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when we perform brain slice culture of cerebellum parts, should I also include the brain stem together to culture? or just cerebellum? Thanks,
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I thick  your slides should be restricted to cerebellum, because the two differ with respect to cellular compositions and functions.
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Sphingosine-1-phosphate1 (S1P1) regulates various molecular and cellular events in different body parts. Its expression pattern and functions are also varied dependent upon the cells types where it is expressed. Does anyone have any information regarding the effect of S1P1 in brain vasculature? Specially in ischemic condition (many paper suggests activation of S1P1 is neuroprotective in ischemic condition, however they lack the discussion on effect of S1P1 in brain vasculature). So if you have any information regarding the S1P1 signaling in brain vasculature, please do share !!!
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S1PR1 is one of the targets of the multiple sclerosis drug FTY720 (Fingolimod). Here is a review article about S1P and S1PRs: http://www.hindawi.com/journals/mi/2016/8606878/
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Hello.
I need know the mechanism of action BD1063. Is antagonist of sigma 1 receptor but I can't find a paper whit mechanism.
Thanks for your time.
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Rebeca, busca la siguiente referencia ( see the next reference):
Behav Brain Res. 2016 Jan 15;297:196-203. doi: 10.1016/j.bbr.2015.10.013. Epub 2015 Oct 14.
Ethanol-related behaviors in mice lacking the sigma-1 receptor.
Valenza M, DiLeo A, Steardo L, Cottone P, Sabino V.
Saludos!
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I interviewed over 100 formerly unconscious patients.  regardless of cause, they reported and increase in consciousness when moved.  During some of the time, they appeared to be unconscious externally but could hear, understand and emotionally respond to what was being said but couldn't move.  Trying to find a physiological explanation.
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I guess, neural correlates for these happenings could be understood from a few combined aspects of 'Narcolepsy' (where patients even though appear to be physically unconscious or asleep, they are aware of their surroundings), and 'Sleep Paralysis' (where one is unable to move or speak while remaining aware and conscious of one's surroundings). If one look for neural regions in the brain responsible for these two disorders, one may get some clue as to what may possibly create the phenomena you observed.
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How can i cut slices of cerebellum in a good way? I think someone who studies neuroscience. 
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If you are sectioning mouse samples, use paraffin. For larger animals, e.g. Rhesus macaques, use cryo: dry ice and obviously a larger microtome.
AFIP has a very good explanation of the methodology. ISBN 1-881041-00X
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What is the mechanism for enhancement of plasma triglycerides (TG) after feeding unsaturated fatty acid rich vegetable oils such as olive oil and Nigella sativa oil. I have found increased levels of plasma triglycerides (TG) in rat models. What are the molecular mechanisms/systems that increase TG in blood.
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You can get your answer from the Chapter about "Aspects of fat digestion and metabolism" which is descritive in details in http://www.fao.org/docrep/v4700e/v4700e08.htm
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Dear RG members, there is a belief that we use a very small percentage of our brain -  is it true? or how else can we measure the level of usage of a brain of different people of different level of thinking capacity. is there a perfect standard methodology to really measure the usage percentage of a human brain?
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here's an answer I once posted to another forum:
As far as we can tell we always use our brain's full capacity.
The issue starts with that there does not exist a single measure of brain "usage" or "activity". Neural functioning can be measured on the scale of genes, proteins, single neurons, groups of cells, or entire brains. Neuroscientists look at blood flow, glucose use, oxygen use, neurotransmitter levels, number of action potentials, intensity of various brain rhythms, connectivity patterns between areas, and hundreds, if not thousands, of things more. Clearly, there is no single all-encompassing way of quantifying brain usage.
That said, distinct brain regions and cell types certainly vary in their levels of activity on many of these measures. Activity levels vary across time, and they vary with the particular task the organism is performing. Indeed, this variation reflects how the brain processes information: in a way, it's how the brain works.
For other brain regions we have less of an idea "what they're for". But it has long been recognized that some brain functions aren't localized to any specific region. Rather, these functions are distributed over many areas. So you may be able to cut away a certain piece of brain tissue without grave consequences, but you will have reduced the brain's overall capacity for information processing.
Also, more is not always better. Bigger brains aren't smarter. Moreover, much higher blood flow through the brain would result in blood vessel ruptures, greatly increased neurotransmitter levels are toxic to the brain (cells die), and when neurons all over the brain fire action potentials as quickly as they possibly can we call that an epileptic seizure.
All of this doesn't mean we can't try out new psychological/cognitive strategies that optimize or enhance our functioning somehow (presumably by rearranging the information flow in our brains). And yes, "zapping" the brain with electric or magnetic pulses as well as some drugs can impressively alter behavior. But "impressive" for neuroscientists usually means a 50 percent change (of whatever it is we're looking at) that lasts for as long as the stimulation is on, or however long the drug remains active. And naturally, scientists then only look at what's improved, not at all the brain functions that may simultaneously be taking a beating...
Finally, there's an evolutionary argument. The human brain uses a massive amount of energy compared to our other organs. And foraging for food is no joke. So it's very unlikely nature would have put in 90 percent of idle brain tissue unless we really desperately needed it in order to survive.
Great TED clip attached as link
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I used Open field plus sucrose preferential. However, I receive this question when I'm presenting my stress-depression animal model. One of the questioner, a professor ask me this as he is using a substance that greatly affected the mouse prefrontal cortex and the mouse barely move. 
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Dear Hafiz,
Indeed, open-field test is carried out to show the locomotor activity of rodents before Forced Swimming Test (FST) to show that despite the normal locomotion of animals they are immobile in the FST test. I added some reviews that are useful to better understanding the immobility behavior in the FST. Under acute unpredictable and unavoidable stressful conditions, depressed people get despair and hopeless and, in fact, FST mimics similar conditions for rodents in which immobility time is considered as a depressive-like behavior. The Tail Suspension Test is similar to FST as well. Also, Climbing behavior in FST reflects the activity of adrenergic system and swimming is associated with serotonergic system activity.
Cryan, John F., and Andrew Holmes. "The ascent of mouse: advances in modelling human depression and anxiety." Nature reviews Drug discovery 4.9 (2005): 775-790.
Cryan, John F., Rita J. Valentino, and Irwin Lucki. "Assessing substrates underlying the behavioral effects of antidepressants using the modified rat forced swimming test." Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews 29.4 (2005): 547-569.
Slattery, David A., and John F. Cryan. "Using the rat forced swim test to assess antidepressant-like activity in rodents." Nature protocols 7.6 (2012): 1009-1014.
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I am working now in research,trying to understand, is there are difference between swimmer ,karate player and non athletes in brain activity p300. so i need some related study in this topic.
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I guess that literature has evidenced certain effects in P300 amplitude during simple oddball tasks across different exercised-populations. Moreover, those studies have examined other features such as latency and area under the curve (AUC). 
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Philosopher Merleau-Ponty claimed that the feeling Self is the living body or its flesh. In this case, a conjecture can be made that siamese brothers or sisters would not have opposite feelings simultaneously (as one being happy and the other sad). Do you know any data that could help to support or disconfirm this conjecture?
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Dear Alfredo,
There are no many EEG studies on Siamese twins.
We find the following:
H.G. LENARD AND F.J. SCHULTE. Polygraphic sleep study in craniopagus twins. Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery, and Psychiatry, 1972, 35, 756-762 (however it is sleep, and twins are very small - may be self is not developed yet...)
To check your hypothesis it is interesting to contrast EEG of twins joint at somewhere in the body with EEG of twins joined at the head (craniopagus). Then again the effects may be different depending on which part of the brain is shared...
Check please the following link for the popular article and the video on twins joined at the head.
Several years ago we watched British documentary about adult twins (females) joined at the head (if we remember correctly they sheered frontal lobe). Nothing was told in this film about EEG... But what was interesting that they had different hair stiles and very different personalities. Each of them had her own room to rest with different stiles...
If you will find something please share it with us.
Best,
Alex & Andrew
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I have seen several patients who take vitamin B12 as a supplement who have developed insomnia. I am trying to find evidence supporting causality.
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I agree that unnecessary doses of vitamins of B-group may cause insomnia because of the extra-stimulating effect on the CNS.
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Dear all,
I would like to know if there is a proportion in the concentration of any compound to compare iv / ip / icv administration in a mouse model.
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I think iv and ip sometimes can be the same. It depends on the solubility of the compound. The icv dose we used was more often 1/100 of the iv one. Again it depend how it passes over the liquor-brain barrier.
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I used to stain with VSD (RH1691 or RH1838) and record from a cortical area of the monkey brain two times a week (the monkey is behaving during the recording).
After about three months from the first staining (and the moment the dura mater is first opened), even if the brain still looks in a good shape, I often fail to record any good signal.
This problem persists even if I carefully remove the new transparent tissue layers that grow on the top of the cortex after the dura mater is chronically opened.
Does anybody know why it happens and how to avoid or recover from this problem?
(More details on the protocol I am using can by found in this paper
Slovin, H., Arieli, A., Hildesheim, R. & Grinvald, A. Long-term voltage-sensitive dye imaging reveals cortical dynamics in behaving monkeys. J. Neurophysiol. 88, 3421–3438 (2002).)
Thank you!
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Hi Giacomo, My guess is that the cortical tissue is undergoing chronic inflammation. We only have experience in rat but if the cortex is "irritated" e.g., touched, the staining becomes poor. Somehow inflammation reduces inter cellular spaces and prevent diffusion of dye molecules.  
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Since all the treatments that have been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Alzheimer's. For example, cholinesterase inhibitors and memantine can help treat memory and thinking problems. But these drugs just help manage the symptoms and there is currently no cure for AD. I would like to hear from you what makes it that hard to find a cure and are we close to finding a treatment for AD!
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1. If you don't know the cause, you can't find a cure.2. Make sure you aren't adding to the significant misdiagnosis figures by failing to rule out dementia mimics.
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I post fixed rat brains in a 4% formaldehyde solution (10X the volume of the brain) but I don't know the optimal time for this fixation step.
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Dear Sissoeff,
If you perform cardiac perfusion/fixation, your post-fix duration of 4% paraformaldehyde depends on what you are looking for. For example, in our experiments we follow IHC of tight junction proteins, GFAP and c-fos in brain. For this, our postfix time is about overnight.
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It has long been argued that the brain has no sensory receptors, but the smooth muscle controlling blood flow of the intracerebral arteries clearly has sensory and motor innervation. 
Robert A. Hill, Lei Tong, Peng Yuan, Sasidhar Murikinati, Shobhana Gupta, Jaime Grutzendler. Regional Blood Flow in the Normal and Ischemic Brain Is Controlled by Arteriolar Smooth Muscle Cell Contractility and Not by Capillary Pericytes. Neuron, 2015; DOI: 10.1016/j.neuron.2015.06.001
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I would like to highlight that the trigeminovascular reflex mediated via the tracts nucleus solitarii is essential for that, as implied in the current pathophysiological models of migraine. It may explain why a lot of patients receiving Metoprolol, beta-blocker which does penetrate in the brain, have a real benefice nervetheless.
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I am trying to find the best way to measure the blood brain barrier permeability Invivo (Mice),I tried the Evans blue dye with High molecular weight dextran but I'm still looking for a better method to measure the changes in the blood brain barrier permeability with aging.
Your help is much appreciated.
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Hi there,
I am currently drafting a review on this very topic. The available techniques that I have identified for measuring BBB integrity and permeability include: Evans blue, fluorescence, TEER, MRI-Gd, IgG, PAMPA, PET, perfusion CT, horseradish peroxidase, NIR, SPECT, and MRI-ASL.
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I am trying to remove the blood from the brain capillaries after injection of a dye, I tried intracardial injection of Ice-cold heparinized PBS but I faced high resistance during the injection, so if anyone can help with a detailed protocol  to make sure that whole blood was removed from the brain capillaries this will help a lot.
Your suggestions are much appreciated.
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Dear Sweilem,
Intracardiac perfusion is the best way to remove the blood from brain capillaries. You will need to add sodium nitrate and heparin to your PBS solutions to prevent clothing. You will need to use a large needle (blunt, >G18) to reduce the resistance you have mentioned. Basically deeply anesthetise the animal, open the chest cavity, expose the heart and stabilize it with forceps, insert your blunt needle up from the ventricle, start the flow of heprinized PBS solution with a pressure at around 150-200 mmHg, cut the right atrium to let the incoming blood out, run the solution until the outflow is clear of red blood cells (~250 ml). If you need to fix the tissue you can change from PBS to 4%PFA (or whatever fixative you are using). For details of the protocol please see my PhD thesis and JCN publication listed below.
best wishes, Refik
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AIMS Neuroscience is requesting paper submissions for our September issue. Manuscripts will need to be received by 29 August 2016, and decisions on acceptance will be completed by 29 September. The aim of this special issue is to explore the role of the hippocampus in memory. Research on the hippocampus and medial temporal cortex in memory has been extensive. The hippocampus has been proposed as both a storage location and as promoting the gradual integration of newly acquired information into cortical association networks via binding, reactivating, and strengthening connections. What are the current theories and how do these fit with long-term cortical memory storage? Please add your own answers here to stimulate interest and discussion.
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The hippocampus via the trisynaptic circuit serves to act as a comparator of old and new data.  Old information travels from the entorhinal cortex (at ECII) via the perforant path to the dentate on to CA3 and final is passed on unchanged to CA1 from which it is sent via the subiculum back to EC.  But, if there is new information then CA3 is inhibited while new information from primary sensory cortices is sent via association cortices to ECIII which projects to CA1 where this new information drives the firing of CA1 pyramidal cells which in turn send this revised input signal back to EC via the subiculum.  The next time the information enters CA3 from EC it will have been modified to reflect what was recently seen or heard.
If the activity of this circuit is dysregulated as occurs with age-related amnestic mild cognitive impairment wherein there is loss of inhibitory control over CA3 subregion then learning and memory function is impaired.  
Check out our paper:
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I want to evaluate insulin resistence status in rodents,especially in the central nervous system,is there any measures I can adopt?
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The hyperinsulinemic-euglycemic clamp, or insulin clamp, is the gold standard for assessing insulin action in vivo. You can see how it's done here:
As this is quite complicated, another method would be to do an Insulin Tolerance Test (ITT) by injecting a bolus of insulin and recording blood glucose levels at different time points. Some authors who do not want or cannot do an ITT or insulin clamp use the HOMA-IR (Homeostatic model assessment Insulin Resistance), as it requires only a simple dosage of plasma glucose and insulin. But this test was developed for humans and there is controversy as whether it should be used in mice.
In the CNS, it is not as straightforward, and would require analyzing the phosphorylation state of several proteins involved in the insulin signaling cascade. Plasma to CSF insulin ratio can also be an indicator. See below:
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ATP released from astrocytes is degraded to adenosine and activates presynaptic adenosine A2 or A1 receptors that leads to an increase or decrease in its release probability (Panatier et al. , 2011). Now the problem is:
After secretion of ATP by astrocyte:
Which mechanism is activated A2A receptor on presynaptic neuron?
Which mechanism is activated A1 receptor on presynaptic neuron?
Which mechanism determines that what kind of adenosine receptors on the presynaptic neuron (A2A , A1) should be activated in response to astrocyte adenosine secretion?
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You should send your question to Prof. Harald Sontheimer who is registered on RG.
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The problem of final integration has to do with how the brain binds visual information. What kinds of problems does the problem of final visual integration present in our understanding of how the brain works?
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Visual impressions are converted into and stored as
tuples of symbols. Imagine the view of a cluttered
desktop: from a glance you can only keep a
working memory -ful of items. I'd like to
mention Kim's Game.
Visual working memory is restricted in capacity
to the Miller constant. On the other hand, we
don't have one working memory for auditory
and one for visual items: we only have a single
working memory for items of any modality, in
a neutral currency, the symbols.
Packets stored in long term memory can only
be recalled in a reliable way if any packet fits
entirely into working memory. Bigger data
structures can be made by linking pairs
of tuples by containing the same symbol,
like the equi-join in relational databases.
Literature
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Does anyone know which IEG activates faster in the brain? c-fos or zif 268? Thank you!
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I'd be wary to say there were no differences.
It depends on the brain region and whether you are looking at mRNA or protein expression. Zangenehpour and Chaudhuri (2002) show that mRNA for both is induced along roughly the same time lines though c-fos reaches its maximal level after about 30 minutes compared to 60 minutes for zif268. However, protein translation for zif268 appears to occur faster and is more prolonged, reaching a maximum at around 90 minutes and remaining at a plateau for about 60 min. c-fos instead reaches a peak after approximately 120 min and rapidly declines from there.
However, this data is related to light stimulation and measurements made in the visual cortex and judging from other papers out there, the time courses for different regions and different interventions vary: phencyclidine (non-competitive NMDA-R antagonist) treatment causes a phasic response in zif268 (increase after an hour followed by a suppression 1-2 days later) that was absent in c-fos yet CPP (competitive NMDA-R antagonist) caused similar changes in both zif268 and c-fos (Gao et al., 1998). Learning and memory tasks also show spatial and task-related variations in zif268 and c-fos expression (Barry and Commins, 2011) so you really need to look for any publications relating to the brain region/task you're interested in or to do some control experiments looking at fixed time points after your intervention to get an idea of the time course for certain.
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Hey there,
I'm looking for a selective astrocyte marker which does not stains other glial cells, especially schwann cells. I usally use GFAP but I found at a paper, that it also labels schwann cells and a minor subpopulation of oligodendrocytes in SVZ. The same goes for the S100-Protein. I also looked up MANF (Mesencephalic Astrocyte-Derived Neurotrophic Factor) but it seems to be located to the ventral mid-brain and the substantia nigra. The astrocytes I like to stain come from the cochlear nucleus (brain stem).
Any ideas?
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Dear Christina, indeed, we used several specific astrocyte markers (GS, GLAST, GLT-1, OCT-1, OCT-2, OCT-3, Kir4.1, Kir6.1,etc, however the staining is strongly dependent on age. For example, GLT-1, OCT-3, Kir4.1 and Kir6.1 are stably expressed in  rat and mouse after 11-21 days, except if cells are transormed to cancer cells as glioblastoma.
If you are looking for healthy adults, try SLC22A-3 (organic cation transporter, OCT-3) or SLC18B1 (vesicular polyamine transporter, vPAt), or directly try spermine and spermidine. Check it. The markers would be very interesting for you. I can provide more information if need.
Cordially, Serguei.
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By way of comparison, there are an estimated 22000 - 51000 noradrenergic neurons in the human brain - all in the locus coeruleus. How many serotonergic neurons are there in the human brain?  How many subvarients? And where can they be found? And in comparison, how many serotonergic neurons are present elsewhere in the body (eg., in the human gut)?
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Dear Prof. Schwartz:
I attended, your lectures at the INPP Conference in Frutillar (I presented a poster on Contemporary Psychopathology Seminar for Residents)
Regarding your question, I found this in an article by Horning JP. Journal of Chemical Neuroanatomy 26 (2003) 331–343
The development of histological and imaging techniques has demonstrated the great homologies between the organizations of the serotonergic system in many mammalian species including human. With a total number of about half a million in the human raphe nuclei, serotonin neurons have a dense and divergent projection extending to all divisions of the brain, but still with a specific areal and cellular targeting in different circuits of the sensory, motor or limbic systems.
Might you need further help, please do not hesitate to write (l.varela@uandresbello.edu)
Best regards,
Luis Varela
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I usually look at microglia isolated from mice brain using the standard percol gradient method without using Collagenase/DNAse steps i.e. just meshing the brain with 10 ml syringe plunger and then layering 30% brain cell suspension on 70% percol. This is the way I look for infiltrating lymphocytes (CD45 Hi)  and microglia (CD45 Int CD11b+ cells) by Flow cytometry. The method works well for analyzing infiltrating lymphocytes but for microglia, I get the fluctuating data for the mice even within the same group. Is there any other clean and better way to isolate and characterize microglia from mice brain? Waiting for your suggestions.
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Dear Tabasum
There are specific products for microglia isolation which can save you lots of time and make your life easier. 
Here's a tutorial video which might be helpful for you. The entire procedure is shown step by step for three adult mouse brains, and it is the same for human brain tissue.  For young mice until P7 you can skip the myelin removal step. For a small number of mice the enrichment may also be done manually with a magnetic separator.
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Concentrations of lipophylic chemicals in the brain are often expressed as g/g lipid. But for my experiments I need concentrations in M. In consequence, I require the lipid content of the human brain, or, more specifically, of the substantia nigra pars compacta, if available. I have been going through the literature but so far to no avail.
If anybody could provide this information, I would be very thankful.
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Sacha
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Dear Saak,
Thanks for the reference. I already checked it, and it did not provide me with the answer I am looking for. It is nevertheless what I have currently used as a close approximation for my calaculations.
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It is a somber realization to those haven't as yet encountered and a grim fact to those who know the current and forecasted Alzheimer's Disease prevalance and impact.
If the amyloid hypothesis is not causative but consequential, just as the cholinergic appears to be, and if no idea has been successfully translated into even a mediocre clinical benefit, how do we approach again the blank drawing board with a new hope?
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We must keep in mind that Alzheimer's Disease is a disease with no defined etiology. If we can not define with is the cause, we will have no success in solve this problem. It would be similar to a flu...you can take medicine to cure the sneeze, but if don't take care with the virus, its only a paliative response.
In AD is very similar... we know the signs and symptoms, but if we do not understand how it starts, all the treatment will be paliative.
We have three well acepted theories for the AD development: The cholinergic hypothesis, the amyloidal hypothesis and the inflamatory hypothesis... but there's another one that is more complex... one that mix all of those, when each one is cause and effect of each other. Genetical alterations in some proteins would stimulate the production of amiloid 42 could cause inflamation on brain. Inflamatory process in brain could cause alteration in TAU protein, which  would interrupt the flux of vesicles... without neurotransmitters, we can not send info along the axons... and etc. 
The cholinergic theory is the most weak among all of those. It's based on the fact that we use choline mimetic in clinics... but there are other better explanations to memory alterations, like hipocampal neurodegeneration.
I have a paper explaning the details of memory... maybe we could read it, and other, and try to create another possibility, maybe...
Cheers,
Eduardo
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I am going to inject AAV-shRNA into rat striatum, cause it is relative larger brain area, do I need to inject more than one site? Thanks.
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The striatum can be divided anatomically to dorsal, ventral, lateral, medial, and all the combination between these general regions. So if you really think about infecting the whole (!) striatum, you will have to do at least 2 holes in the rat's brain, and in each location inject in multiple sites (2-4) along the dorso-ventral axis, and that's per hemisphere. Start with injection to the ventral part, wait 10 min for diffusion, and then move dorsally to the next injection site along the dorso-ventral axis, and so on.
See this, although bare in mind this was done with lentivirus (hence smaller infected area):
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There is less information available for human cortex about optimal golgi staining than for mouse or rat. But the tissue I am working with is human and has been in formalin for many years.
I am specifically looking for dendritic spines for classification purposes.
Any protocol ideas or publications for the optimal human cortex golgi staining protocols?
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We have been using the Golgi-Kopsch modification with potassium di chromate in paraformaldehyde and silver nitrate for the impregnation for archived human brain tissues.Hope this helps.
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I will be doing an experiment to make an AD mice model and can't figure which is better, changing the doses of AB injected, or changing the time in between the injection until tested?
I will be using Morris Water Maze to do the testing on the mices
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dear Emma,
recent findings conccrning differences between man and rat has disclosed basic fundamental dissimilarities between the two, e g in terms of  astrocyte organisation and relations to neurons in humans but not in rat in addition to other differences that would seem to reduce the relevance of a rat model, sorry to say. Good luck anyway, Arne Brun
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The arcuate fasciculus is a fibrous tract in the white matter of the brain that connects the frontal lobes with areas in the Angular Gyrus, and Temporal Lobe. It is assumed to be involved in speech. It may also allow communication between the Meta-Cognitive areas in the prefrontal cortex, and the consciousness center in the Angular Gyrus. If so it might support the Angular Gyrus Model of Consciousness (AGMC).
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Our article published in peer-reviewed Journal "Communicative & Integrative Biology". A few major points discussed in the paper:
(1) Brain is not the source of consciousness.
(2) Consciousness is ubiquitous in all living organisms, starting from bacteria to human beings.
(3) The individual cells in the multicellular organisms are also individually cognitive entities.
(4) Proposals like “artificial life”, “artificial intelligence”, “sentient machines” and so on are only fairytales because no designer can produce an artifact with the properties like internal teleology (Naturzweck) and formative force (bildende Kraft).
(5) The material origin of life and objective evolution are only misconceptions that biologists must overcome.
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I am struggling to find cortical layer boundaries in mouse brain slice under differential interference contrast microscope. I typically use 400 um thick brain slice for my electrophysiology recording. Under 40x lens I kind of can see that the upper layers have smaller soma size and the soma is dense and in layer 5 the soma is bigger and sparse compared to upper layers.
The best image I can find online is this one in somatosensory cortex (http://jn.physiology.org/content/92/4/2185), in which mouse barrels in layer 4 can be easily identified.
Could anyone give me some links of good examples for identifying cortical boundaries in live brain slice?
Thank you in advance!
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I would suggest not using DIC to identify layers.  You could try using a low power dry objective and play with contrast using the aperture settings on your field illumination and/or on the condenser.  You could also try moving the condenser toward and away from your specimen to try and resolve layers.  Once you have identified layers using this approach center the dry objective over the layer of interest, then switch to your 40x water immersion objective that should now be located within the region of interest.
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Selective norepinephrine and serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SNRI's) are commonly used in the treatment of cataplexy because cataplexy is the result of down dysregulated norepinephrine, itself the result of missing or greatly diminished orexinergic signaling.  
However, cataplexy is also occasionally treated with Phentermine, which is a norepinephrine releasing agent.
What happens when a person takes both a releasing agent and a reuptake inhibitor (not necessarily specific to this example, but generally)?  Is the result a greater concentration/availability of the protein you're after than you'd get with either individually?
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That's the kind of thing I was hoping for!  The abstract is very clearly written and already has given me some insight, so I'm expecting to enjoy the full text article.  Thanks!
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I try to dissociate middle cerebral arteries and basilar artery by enzymatic procedure. Unfortunately, I couldn't obtain healthy cells. They are very fragile and incompatible to patch-clamp   recodings. I used a two-step protocole with first papine and DTT and second collagenase H, collagenase II or F and DTT.
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Hello Michele,
I use a papain solution (papain 1, DTT 0.8 and albumin 0.7 in mg/ml) dissolved in a nominal calcium free bath solution. Preheat the solution to 37ºC, then transfer this solution to the eppendorf containing the arteries. Incubate it for 5-6 min at 37ºC. Then remove the solution and wash a couple of times with the cold calcium free solution. The tissue takes a cotton like texture when is ready. Finally, gently triturate the tissue with a fire polished pasteur pipette (this final step is important since if you triturate the issue too much, you will not get healthy cells). Take a look to the cells and add any extra time of incubation if necessary until you get the quality/quantity of cells needed.
It generally works fine for isolation of any SMC.
Goo luck!!
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The process of myelinogenesis starts at birth and last until 22 years of age.
Sleep may play an important role in this process.
In demyelinising diseases such MS sleep disturbances are the rule.
Perhaps it will be interesting for this studies the myelin mutant taiep rat model
by José R. Eguibar, Instituto de Fisiología, Universidad Autónoma de Puebla. Mexico)
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Hi Marco,
Thanks for your reference that I did not know.
Best,
Rosa
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Many articles mention that they treat the slices with a beta in serum free medium. why do they do this?
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Might help!
1.Amyloid β oligomers i... - digital-csic Digital CSIC
by JL Zugaza - ‎2010 - ‎Cited by 2 
Amyloid beta (Aβ) oligomers accumulate in brain tissue of Alzheimer disease patients ... neurons in culture and entorhinal-hippocampal organotypic slices, we found that Aβ ... chronic treatment with nanomolar concentration of Aβ oligomers also induced .
2. Inhibition of Bax protects neuronal cells from oligomeric A ...
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May 17, 2012 - (c) Hippocampal slice culture were treated with oligomeric Aβ (500 .... as phosphorylation of Bim might also be the reason for the increase of .... serum-free medium and, after the treatment, the hippocampal slices .... Cellular prion protein is essential for oligomeric amyloid-beta-induced neuronal cell death.
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I have multiple breakages on my bands. I use 4% stacking gel, 10-12% separating gel, I block overnight at 4 degrees with 5% nonfat milk in TBST, 1st antibody 1:1000 overnight (santa-cruz), 2nd antibody 1:10000 for 1:30 hr at RT (santa-cruz).
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Hi Panagiotis,
I hope you resolve the problem. If not, there may be high levels of salt in your reagents.
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Hi all,
this is another of my mysterious questions. I am working with brain chromatin during development, in particular with P4 and P60 mouse brains, and I am always getting a weird result. whether I am preparing chromatin for ChIP or just isolating it after Mnase digestion, I always get a huge amount of DNA from P4 brains but very small amount from P30. Before you ask I treat every sample with almost 200ug of PK for 2 hours. My first thought was that DNA could get stuck to proteins and so I could lose it during my phenol chloroform extraction. I always start from same amount of nuclei so DNA amount should be same. Anybody can help me solve this?
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Dear Gilda,
The key players are polyamines (PAs), spermidine and spermine. Why? PAs work as casks to hold DNA. This stabilizes DNA structure and an extraction of DNA from brain is a process which should count (i) PA unbinding from DNA procedures and (ii) cell types you are isolating: (1) neurons versus (2) glial cells. Since in adult brain Glia outnumber neurons about 13 times in brainstem and ~3.5 time in cortex, so the nuclei of astrocytes, NG2 cells, oligodendrocytes, ependyma (all glial cells) contain most of DNA sampling from brain. Are you sure that the samples of collected nuclei are containing both cell types or you are loosing one of the types due to just isolation procedure?
Another key is the age. While young brain is not much differentiated (glia versus neurons), after establishing adulthood (for rats and mice it is from 21 day to 60 days) the glial cella are maturated and glia outnumber neurons. Therefore, how do you collect nuclei and separate them, glial versus neuronal?
Finally, In the cells ~80% of spermine and spermidine are bound on RNA and DNA. During development (and specifically during aging) PA amount is dropped down (the well known fact). As so, the amount of chromatin isolated will be also dropped down. For example your problem may be related to the concentration of PAs in your samples and therefore to amount of DNA isolated. Check your methods, how does it related to PAs cleavage from DNA, etc. Does my answer helps conceptually?
Cordially, Serguei.