Moths - Science topic

Hi Sofwan Badruddin , thank you so much! Message replied.

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While it's true that humans have drawn inspiration from nature and observed natural systems to develop various optimization algorithms and problem-solving techniques (such as Ant Colony Optimization, inspired by the foraging behavior of ants), this is just one aspect of human intelligence. Human intelligence encompasses a wide range of cognitive abilities, including abstract thinking, problem-solving, creativity, language, emotional intelligence, and much more.

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The examples you mentioned, like Ant Colony Optimization and Beehive structure, are indeed inspired by observations of nature, and they are used in optimization and problem-solving algorithms. These techniques are valuable tools for solving specific problems efficiently, but they don't replicate the full breadth of human intelligence.

In summary, human intelligence is a complex phenomenon influenced by nature and nurture, and it encompasses a wide range of cognitive abilities. While some aspects of AI draw inspiration from nature and human intelligence, they are distinct and designed for specific purposes.

For what geographic region and to what level (family, subfamily, tribe, genus, species)?

In order to identify them, nothing is better than collecting specimens, but I guess you are expecting other answers. Then, photos of dorsal and ventral sides of wings will help. One of them is not sufficient enough to identify. I t really depends on which group and which taxonomic category (species, genus, etc) you are focusing on.

There is no one key to all the world species of Agrotis. Lafontaine & Poole (2004) give a key for all the North American species - the publication is available at: https://images.peabody.yale.edu/mona/27-1-ocr.pdf and the key is on page 225. German San Blas (2014) reviews all the south American species, with keys, at https://www.biotaxa.org/Zootaxa/article/view/zootaxa.3771.1.1 The Hampson Fauna of British India volumes are available from the BIODIVERSITY Heritage Labrary (run by the Smithsonian) using a simply Google search, but they are very outdated and cover only Indian species. You appear to be in Brazil...

No, wild-type Drosophila melanogaster (fruit flies) cannot respond to moth sex pheromones due to differences in their olfactory systems. Fruit flies have specific receptors for their own pheromones, while moths have specialized receptors for their species-specific pheromones. The olfactory receptor repertoire and neural circuitry for detecting pheromones have evolved differently between the two species, preventing fruit flies from recognizing and responding to moth pheromones.

Butterflies are seen during the day, i.e. they are active and feed during the day, while moths are seen at night, i.e. they are active and feed at night.

Hola Abinet, te comento que hace unos años vi una información relacionada con lo que preguntas, espero le sea de utilidad.

Alba-Aguayo y Rueda A. (2013). Problema Bioquímico Determinación del ciclo umbral y la eficiencia para la PCR cuantitativa en tiempo real. Rev Educ Bioquimica.;32(1):36-39.

Hunter Mathews sir, thanks for yr answer, but i think sir it seems to be look like Ictalurus furcatus???

I think that is probably very difficult to create the exact environmental conditions in captivity, and infertility might be related to that: variation of temperature and humidity, diversity of food, light exposure, etc.

Hi Ash; What are the environmental conditions for rearing? Sounds like you are really serious about these moths in you have multiple generations at hand.

Manduca lays its eggs on my tomatoes. Murder is the only recourse in So. Calif.

In the 1970s I and a couple of students did a project on the thermal biology of Hyles lineata. George Bartholomew and Bernd Heinrich (then a grad student) provides some data and advice to the effort. Many warm nights in the desert poking moths and attracting police. Never published it, but it was good stuff.

Cheers, Jim Des Lauriers

The horn is absolutely not for defense. I’ve tried super hard to get hurt on the horn but the horn does nothing at all. It’s too floppy to do anything defense-related. I’m guessing it has something to do with sensory functions or tricking predators. This would be a cool capstone research project for anyone interested!

Thank you so much for your answer Professor

It is used efficiently with lepifopterean larvae because its mouth parts are biting

But spiders are not suitable for it because the parts of its mouth are piercing and sucking

Any pictures to share with us...

Dear Md Mostaque Mahmud, thanks for asking the question which was solved earlier by prescribing anti-TB drugs cat-I. How is the patient doing now? Could you please share the follow up reports of the patient?

I agree with the comment of Dr N K Singh sir

Also check https://www.biotaxa.org/RSEA/article/view/27693

Itz not through scientific base... But through experience.... Put sodium chloride in ball form.... And garlic... That will reduce both weevil and moths.... Keep the storage tank air tight..

One good phylogenetic analysis with plausible, clearly explained assumptions is sufficient. The trick is finding a method with plausible and clearly explainable assumptions that your reviewers, editor and audience agree upon. People like to run multiple analyses because if they get the same answer from different methods, this reduces their worry that they need to provide a justification for their methodological choice, and satisfies a greater diversity of people who favor alternative approaches for one reason or another. However, just like performing multiple statistical tests on a dataset does not increase the significance of the result, so running multiple phylogenetic analyses on a data set does not increase the chances that the answer is "true". See Rindal and Brower, 2011. Cladistics 27:331-334 (request a copy from my ResearchGate page).

The assumptions of phenetic and Bayesian analyses are quite different, by the way, and in my view, it is rather irresponsible just to run incompatible methods because you can. A better approach is to understand what you are doing, and pick a method that you can justify.

Yes it looks S. frugiperda.

@Patrick Gorring

Thanks for your answer and making me realize that my question is not clear. Should have seen this from David's answer already. My concern is the contamination of the extracted DNA with the pigments, not with DNA from unclean dust. In the past, we had trouble with eye pigments inhibiting PCR, for instance.

Spray or mix the sample on the food source of moth and allow them to navigate by keeping control in which only food alone given. Take the reading and compare the data.

Agree with Houda Kawas

Thanks very much Sven Thatje ..that is so helpful. the larvae is about 5cm length, on average....so i believe i will get enough muscle tirrue from it.

Dear Munira Nasiruddin,

Dear colleagues,

We kindly suggest, prior to providing your answers in this discussion, to read about results of the most recent study (attached above and in the current message). Do you know anything smaller among Lepidoptera than is mentioned in the paper? Let us know please if you possess such info. We can expect that there might be many more extremely small species in the tropics and subtropics.

So far, the minimal recorded forewing length was found to be around 1.2–1.3 mm and the wingspan around 2.6–2.8 mm in two families, the Gracillaridae and Nepticulidae. Among Lepidoptera, the following species have the smallest moths globally: the European Johanssoniella acetosae (Stainton), the Peruvian Simplimorpha kailai Stonis & Diškus, the Mexican Stigmella maya Remeikis & Stonis, the Mediterranean S. diniensis (Klimesh), the Mediterranean Parafomoria liguricella (Klimesh) (Nepticulidae), the South East Asian Porphyrosela alternata Kumata, and the Central African P. desmodivora De Prins (Gracillariidae) (see Stonis et al. 2021).

Kind regards,

Andrius

yes, it is Diatrae saccharalis, the sugarcane borer, is a species of moth of the family Crambidae.

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Thank you very much Babu

Dear Kariyanna B. you're welcome. Please also see this potentially useful article entitled

This article is freely available as public full text on RG.

Perhaps this paragraph extracted from the reference that I quote below will be useful for you:

" The eggs, larvae, pupae and adults of T. bisselliellu came from our rearing room (temperature, 20-25”C, relative humidity (r.h.), 40-60%). Insects were reared on pieces of rabbit skin in clear polyethylene boxes (18 cm x 12 cm x 7 cm) with ventilated lids. The total lifespan of T. bisselliellu is extremely variable in these conditions, which are natural for this synanthropic species. The lifespan depends on the temperature and larval density (Titschack, 1922) as well as on the r.h. (Chauvin, 1977; Chauvin et al., 1983). In our laboratory conditions, the complete development from egg to adult lasts between 80 and 150 days (Chauvin et al., 1992). Adults do not feed and live approximately 10 days. Eggs hatch after 10 days. .During its growth, the larva goes through 5-20 moults in a period which can vary between 40 and 100 days. Pupation lasts approximately 15 days. "

From:

G.Chauvin; G.Vannier., Supercooling capacity of Tineola bisselliella (Hummel) (Lepidoptera: Tineidae): Its implication for disinfestation. Journal of Stored Products Research

Volume 33, Issue 4, October 1997, Pages 283-287

Mark:

The problem with your photos is lack of focus. For small moths such as Pyralidae you should use a digital camera with a macro lens function to obtain close-up and focused photos. Mobile phones are not suitable for taking pictures of small insects.

For mitochondrial annotation, besides MITOS and DOGMA tools, for gene sequences, can also use tools such as MitoZ- animal mitochondrial genome assembly and annotation, MOSAS- insect mitochondrial genome annotation, and SG-ADVISER mtDNA tool- a web server for mitochondrial DNA annotation.

@ hello Izidro thank you for your recommendation i will do

Usually feed the most desirable vegetation to the moths, as for silkworms?

Hi, I'm sorry to say but your photos are virtually impossible to evaluate. The green one 2.1 is a Geometridae an Emerald, but can't say which one, 1.2, 4.1, 6.2, 8.2 are probably Crambidae, 5.2 looks like a male from a Lymantriinae group.

With moths, you need to make sure you are working with clear defined markings on the photos, preferably a good dorsal photo of macro species, will identify ca 70% of them. With Micro-lepidotera species depends on their form, a side and dorsal photo will help, but as you will learn if they are worn with their age as some of yours are it becomes impossible.

With best regards

J.Connell

Good afternoon! Also interested in collecting Ephestia eggs. Can you suggest the best option for collecting eggs?

Thank you for all your replies.

How should I detect if the moths were moved from adjacent plots/orchards into the treatment plots? Is there any way to determine flight direction?

Presumably if males are caught then there wont be enough males available for the females and hence less fruit damage?

Any suggestions?

Bombyx mori, 2001. Seems to be the earliest. But you should probably try a few more searches to be sure. See attached screen shot.

submitted to GenBank in 2001 still unpublished.

Hello,

Following the mentioned request, I came across a paper entitled:

A preliminary annotated checklist of the Papilionidae of Laos with notes on taxonomy, phenology, distribution and variation published in April 2007 by Adam Miles Cotton from Thailand and Tommaso Racheli from Italy. They both you can find on ResearchGate. As you can observe in their published paper, they have experience and interest in working on butterfly fauna of Laos. Also I can recommend you the link below:

which refers to a list of butterflies from Laos (very useful data) and you may find out experts in the reference part you may contact with them concerning your question.

Good luck, Elaheh

Probably the most important question to answer is what effects you need to include.

If it is all just linear elasticity, that's fine.

If plasticity or contact come into play, you can probably manage.

If your task is more complicated, it will be difficult.

And if your supervisor has no good knowledge of Abaqus, don't do it.

Never, ever take a thesis topic where no expert supervisor is available in case things go wrong. I've seen supervisors with no FEM experience hand out bachelor thesis topics that would actually be challenging as PhD thesis....

Hi Jaime,

Benzon Research sells codling moth but not OFM. https://www.benzonresearch.com/

Larry Gut's lab at MSU has both CM and OFM in colony and might be able to send you some critters to start your own colony (I doubt they can provide ongoing shipments though). DM or email me if you want to get in touch with Larry's lab.

I tried by storing them in airtight screw cap vials, lost viability within a week

Interesting about the heliconids, I was not aware of that. Looked them up and see that they first hold the pollen with proboscis and palps and then dissolve the pollen with saliva before ingesting (otherwise baffled me as the probosics meant that only fluids could be ingested). Micropterigidae moths however consume solid pollen (and some fern spores) as they have functional jaws. Nice Trivial Pursuits question!

You can use Ynject that is an innovative application device for the treatment of trees, composed of a connector and a pressurised bottle. It contains a water solution to which the required dose of plant health product can be added for injection into the trunk. for more details check this website: https://www.fertinyect.com/

Dear Peter,

You can check in this old book: Die Raupen der europäischen Tagfalter by Ehrard BODI. Page 35, there is a mention of M.phoebe on Centaurea sp.!!

Also try "Les papillons de jour et leurs biotopes, ligue suisse pour la protection de la nature", 1987. Page 218: mention of the caterpillar on Centaurea scabiosa, C.nigrescens, C.columbaria, Cirsium arvense and C. vulgare. There is no mention of the insect on C.cyanus in"Butterflies of Britain and Europe". You could perhaps try the databases of different Natural History Museums.

Best regards,

Guy

Hello Faisal; If you tell the community what region of the world your specimens are from they will be able to help. Best regards, Jim Des Lauriers

I'm not an expert, but I think you can use DNA barcoding to do it. The primers used in this technique are different for each order of insects. If you use hymenoptera primers in your tissue mixture it may work.

Hello,

Pataeta carbo (Noctuidae: Euteliinae).

Please check the following useful links.

Regards,

Athanasios

Well it's depends about your budget. An inverted microscope with 600X is around of US$ 3000-4000 (medium gamme), I use a Optika XD-3 and take good photos, other option are the Dinolite digital microscopes around of US$ 2500 (puted in Ecuador) this last is so easy to take photos and to take measures. And the mercedes benz are the Nikon inverted microscopes but are expenses more than US$30.000

Hello,

Adult moths Operophtera brumata don't feed.

Please check the following useful link:

Regards,

Athanasios

Have you tried using a devolution programme such as AMDIS from NIST (free download). Explanation can be found in:

https://www.agilent.com/cs/library/applications/5990-5052EN.pdf

Yes, this is Spodoptera eridania, because of the following characters:

1. Reniform spot in the form of a black or dark brown streak or spot (this is the

most diagnostic character).

2. Short black dash near base of wing along the inner margin.

It is known also from Suriname, and the plants you mentioned are included in the list of its known hostplants: https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/44518

Please check the following helpful PDF attachment for the identification of species in the genus Spodoptera, based on forewing characters. However, for final identification, in many cases, genitalia dissection and examination is necessary.

To note that your moth is a male, because of the large light brown patch on the median area adjacent to inner margin.

The title will depend on the content and purpose of the paper.What is your goal?

What exactly are you "reviewing" about the moths of India? Biodiversity, faunistics, bibliography, zoogeography, systematics, physiology, economic entomology, evolulution, ....etc.

See follwing paper on how to preserved leaf.

Chieco, A Rotondi, L Morrone, F Rapparini & R Baraldi (2013) An ethanol-based fixation method for anatomical and micro-morphological characterization of leaves of various tree species, Biotechnic & Histochemistry, 88:2, 109-119, DOI: 10.3109/10520295.2012.746472

You can see

Yes it is possible, you can see: A simple method for sexing live larvae of pink bollworm, Pectinophora gossypiella (Lepidoptera: Gelechiidae) at:

It could be Cnaphalocrocis trapezalis

Thank you Dr Arvind Singh

After some more research it seems something along the line of GLMMs will do the trick, just in case anyone is looking for similar info.

Yes I understand that, thank you for an advice. Best wishes.

First, you need to collect males and females to start a breeding stock. Collect fruits of nectarine and peach infested by the Oriental fruit moth Grapholita molesta. Place them on a tray with soil in the bottom. The larvae once they finish the cycle, they pupate on the ground. Then place the pupae in a hatching cage to get the adults so that they can mate and lay eggs. The larvae can be raised in artificial diet as in the annexed article. Good luck.

https://www.academia.edu/21416903/Success_of_Grapholita_molesta_Busck_reared_on_the_diet_used_for_Cydia_pomonella_L._Lepidoptera_Tortricidae_sterile_insect_release

We need close up pictures taken with a profesional camera, also we need more data, locality and host plant at least to ID to species level.

Although ANOVA can be robust against the normality assumption, I would check normality and heterogeneity of data before proceeding with ANOVA or non-parametric test, to justify the test choice. Best of luck!

titania

I want the world in general and It's not just for our country.

Dear Mishra,

you can easily rear it on Chinease cabbage under greenhouse condition ( 25 + 58C, 65 + 10% RH and a photoperiod of 16L:8D)!

you can check this paper as well:

Best,

Mojtaba

Even more interesting and very smart for those moths. Then, get ready to have your own patch of Silene plants developing seeds, maybe build an enclosure with the plants growing in a one foot wide by two feet tall by 3-4 feet long wire mesh cage, and add the caterpillars, and do some moth ranching?