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In a multi-effect vacuum membrane distillation process: Why is a thermal storage tank used instead of directly heating the salty feed?
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There have been tremendous advances in membrane distillation (MD) since the concept was introduced in 1961: new membrane designs and process configurations have emerged, and its commercial viability has been evaluated in several pilot-scale studies. However, its high energy consumption has hindered its commercialization. One of the most promising ways to overcome this obstacle is to develop more energy-efficient membrane modules.
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I need to add a latent heat flux of evaporation to the hot side boundary, which is a function of the pressure difference between the cold side and the hot side boundary.However, the pressure at the cold side boundary is a function of temperature. How does it apply to the hold side? How can I solve this problem?
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hi. it will be solved simultaneously
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Can I use a refrigerator compressor instead of a vacuum pump in a membrane distillation setup?
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If the pumping power is sufficient for your setup, it could work. But not guaranteed.
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There are a lot of different types of vacuum pump models like oil-sealed pumps and dry pumps, Vacuum water pumps, positive displacement pumps, momentum transfer pumps, entrapment pumps, and regenerative pumps.
What are the vacuum pump model and brand in the Memsys membrane distillation package?
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Foroogh,
From:
It's a Hyundai Vacuum Pump 0.5 Hp, (HCPSP0.5-1 × 1IN)
Looks like a plain rotary pump.
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In the membrane distillation process, a spacer/mesh is used to prevent the membrane from sticking to the surface of the module. On which side of the membrane should this spacer be placed? on the surface of the membrane (in contact with feed) or behind the membrane (in contact with distilled water).
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What type of membrane distillation do you want to do? I have been working on direct contact MD and I do not use a spacer/mesh. The DCMD module has a rubber gasket on each side and the membrane is set in place by that and never sticks to the surface of the module. If you want/need to use the spacer/mesh, I suggest doing short experiments without it, with it on the permeate side and finally with it on the retentate side. After, you can analyze the system performance and characterize the membrane, and with that reach a better conclusion on the best approach. If your membrane has some type of support (I use a PTFE membrane with a PE support), the support faces the permeate side of the module.
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Dear researchers,
I have a Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) powder that the powders stuck together and created large particles (agglomeration).
I have been able to reduce the size of the polymer particles by using a steel sieve with a size of 90 microns.
In all the articles that use the combination of PVDF/PTFE polymers to increase hydrophobicity, only nanometer-sized particles have been used because at 100 degrees temperature, this polymer can only be dispersed.
In my experiments, the large particles would not be smaller even after 4 days of continuous mixing. These big powders cause defects in the membrane structure.
Is there a mill that can reduce the size of these particles to nanometers?
If yes, what is the model of this special mill?
Do you know another method?
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You will have to try several for your particular powder and fluid to see which works best. Sigma-Aldrich sells several types of Zonyl(TM) fluorosurfactants. Best wishes for success.
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Looking at the materials, it can be found that the researchers used the same materials for the modification of polymeric membranes for both ultrafiltration (UF) and membrane distillation (MD) processes while UF membranes are hydrophilic and, in contrast, MD membranes are hydrophobic.
For example, using TiO2 makes the PVDF MD membranes hydrophobic and also this material makes the PVDF UF membranes hydrophilic while the polymer and solvent of the dope solutions are the same.
How can we explain this issue? Why do we use the same modifiers or pore-formers in UF and MD membranes?
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When using hydrophillic nano-fillers for hydrophobic application, we normally hydrophobize them using fluoroalkyl silanes. On the contrary, you could just purchase the hydrophobic nanoparticles instead. But most inorganic nanoparticles like SiO2 are normally hydrophilic.
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Hi, colleagues:
I am now working on PVDF hollow fiber membranes for membrane distillation. To dry small amount of fibers, I have used freeze drying. I am wondering whether it is necessary to do solvent exchange. There are publications saying that PVDF membranes can be directly dried in air after using hot water (e.g. 50oC) to extract the pore former. If you have direct experience on the two methods, please share with me. Thanks!
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Dear Jincai Su,
I worked on a pilot-scale flat sheet PVDF membrane project for many years. I checked all of the drying methods.
It seemed that freeze drying is not scalable. Accordingly, I tested solvent exchange using alcohols.
Generally, simple drying is not suitable for polymeric membranes, especially for PVDF membranes as PVDF is hydrophobic. Simple drying causes membrane structure collapse that makes many dead-end pores and reduces the permeability and increases the pressure difference.
Hope it helps.
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I am working on modeling of Direct Contact Membrane Distillation system with COMSOL Multiphysics software. I have some problems with the mass transfer part of the simulation because I don't know which boundary condition is appropriate for boundaries between membrane-cold and membrane-hot channels. Is anybody knows how I can solve this problem?
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Can anyone share the Visual Basic or Matlab Code of the membrane distillation process with me?
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Dear Foroogh Khodadadi:
You can benefit from these valuable Links about your topic:
I hope it will be helpful ...
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Dear researchers,
I have a plan for the dimensions of a lab-scale DCMD membrane distillation cell.
Can I fabricate a DCMD membrane distillation cell and use it in Vacuum Membrane Distillation?
If not, what is the difference?
Has any researcher the plan for producing a VMD cell on the lab-scale? Could you please share it with me?
Thank you so much.
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DCMD membrane cell can be used in VMD cell on condition that sealing one end of the cold side.
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Hi, I have conducted membrane performance tests using MD (8 hours) for desalination application. Water flux always fluctuates in the early stage of the performance, usually in the first two hours before it increases. My membrane material is a modified metal-organic framework on alumina substrate.
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noted and thank you so much Tijjani El-badawy
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What is the most common membrane distillation configuration in the desalination industry?
Could you please introduce the company that is producing or using this configuration for commercial modules?
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Dear Mohamed Khedawy,
Thank you so much for your reply and time.
My main question is about the Membrane Distillation process. There are some types of configurations like DCMD, VMD, AGMD, etc.
And I want to know which of them is more common in the industrial section.
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How can we warm a very high TDS water on the lab and pilot scale?
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Selecting polymer is one of the most important factors affecting on the final properties and performance of the membranes as well as the method of membrane fabrication.
What is the most excellent polymer for membrane distillation process? Why?
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Dear Foroogh Khodadadi, the essential key is the hydrophobicity of the polymer matrix. It seems that polysulfone copolymers and composites are the most favored. Please have a look at the following documents. My Regards
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Has anyone done any work about membrane distillation? If yes please tell me about the membrane that you used and the design of the equipment and it's measurements.
Please tell us the factors that we should take care of while we design such an equipment.
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Good day! That is pretty complex question. In our works we have used copolymer PVDF-TFE membranes because of hydrophobicity, thermal resistance and ability to be reused after cleaning and pore declogging. Also, we have used home-made pilot plant. Please follow the next references:
The requirement for such a plant are quite general: silicone tubes with foam thermoisolation, high speed pumps, the shortest runway for concentrate on the tubes, and steel cell. Some annotations may be dedicated to cell establishing - try plan your module in such a way to avoid blind spots in your cell by forming pathways. Please, feel free to correct me if I was mistaken, and also feel free to share your expertise.
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Respected Public,
I want to enlist all the problems in DCMD , so i will choose one of the problems and will publish a paper on that topic. I also need cooperation with some researchers on this topic.
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Good day! We are waiting our research paper entitled "Technological improvement of Sorghum saccharatum syrup production by membrane technologies" to be published in Oct 2022 in Journal of Water and Plant Development. It will be dedicated to clarification and concentration of high fructose-glucose juices by means of ultrafiltration and DCMD, so maybe this field will be perspective for you. Also, I wanted to write some review on these theme, so we may cooperate there. Best regards.
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Membrane distillation works on a principle of the vapor pressure gradient. Vapor pressure gradients are created by temperature differences across the hydrophobic membrane. In which, one side is facing the hot stream and another side of the membrane is facing the cold stream.
According to the second law of thermodynamics, heat transfer takes place across the membrane. This results in temperature polarization. Temperature polarization reduces the vapor pressure gradients and results in the decline in water flux in membrane distillation.
So, what are the ways by which we can eliminate or reduce the temperature polarization effect in membrane distillation?
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i would like know that whether we can replace conventional distillation column with membrane distillation units for solvents.
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Plz see this site:
https://www.google.com/search ei=A_NuXfSnFIiDhbIP19eP4AI&q=Which+membrane+can+be+used+for+solvents+distillation&oq=Which+membrane+can+be+used+for+solvents+distillation&gs_l=psy-ab.12...115502.115502..117089...0.4..0.217.217.2-1......0....2j1..gws-wiz.......0i71.K9k9Ce8RzPY&ved=0ahUKEwi0tdac47XkAhWIQUEAHdfrAywQ4dUDCAs
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whats the maximum permissible input feed TDS(organic and Inorganic) and Output Concentrate TDS is possible in Membrane distillation
Advantages and disadvantages of membrane distillation.
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Please Ref : E Haaz 2019 ( on line available).
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I am writing this to ask you about a wetting issue in a new module that uses PP hollow fibers membrane .
Unfortunately, we followed the handling instructions the came with it (see the attached file), which suggest the use of an aqueous mixture with min. 50 vol. % isopropanol to "activate" the filtration process. We just filled the module with the mixture and left it for one hour. It turns out that this process transform the membrane form hydrophobic into hydrophilic membrane.
Do you think the membrane hydrophobicity has been damaged and can't be restored?
The membrane data sheet is also attached.
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Yes dry (warm) air gives the same results.
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the dimensions , percentage of steam flow in each stage,...
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Dear Dorsa Mousavi You can take advantage of the link below
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I am looking for a specific membrane which is alkali resistant to remove the water from the mixture of glycerol , glycerol carbonate, potassium carbonate salt and water ?
is there any pervaporation membrane or membrane distillation for this application ?
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Dear Amir,
You can use cross-linked PVA membrane for removing glycerol , glycerol carbonate, potassium carbonate salt and water. Do not use poly(acylonitrile)[PAN] membrane in alkaline media. The -CN group of PAN will hydrolyze to -COOH in alkaline medium. PAN also degrade in highly alkaline medium.
I hope that this answer will be helful for you.
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I am studying the use of membrane distillation (PTFE - Sterlitech) to reconcentrated draw solution (i.e. 2 M NaCl) from forward osmosis (osmotic bioreactor). In the begging of the operation (2 weeks) the mass of distillate increased with high retention of salt (conductivity of draw solution is approximately 150000uS/cm, and the conductivity of distillate is 200 uS/cm). However, now the distillate mass is decreasing and the draw solution mass is increasing. I verified and there is no leaking in the system and the salt retention is still the same. I believe the water from distillate is crossing the membrane in the direction of draw solution. I tried to change the temperature gradient but didn't work. Did someone face the same problem?
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Thank you Mr. Amjad an Mr. Silva for the reply. I changed the velocity and now my process is working! Thanks a lot!
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Hello Nhi Võ I think that the below reference is useful for you
Characterization of membrane distillation modules and analysis of mass flux enhancement by channel spacers
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For small/lab scale membrane distillation (MD) for water desalination, the temperature difference between the water inlet and outlet of the MD module is usually small. Can this water temperature difference across the MD module become very large in large scale MD ?
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Water temperature difference across the MD module can not become very large in large scale MD. It may increase slightly more than the temperature difference between the water inlet and outlet of the small/lab scale membrane distillation (MD).
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Integration of Hybrid Membrane Distillation Process to treatment RO reject
The handling of RO reject water is a worldwide problem. Reject generated during membrane treatments contains pollutant (chloride) concentration almost 4-5 times of feed. The available technologies for the treatment of reject are multi effect evaporation, natural evaporation or solar evaporation. The disadvantages associated with these technologies are high energy requirement and high space requirement respectively. We are searching a technology/methodology which can work at low pressure and low temperature but as effective as multi effect evaporation and less space requirement than natural or solar evaporation
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I am evaluating Membrane Distillation for desalination of FGD wastewater stream from a power plant, having up to 55,000 ppm of dissolved solids. I need to establish capital and operating costs for the Membrane Distillation process, and compare with Seawater RO, Forward Osmosis, MSF evaporator (Brine concentrator) and Multi Effect Distillation (MED) processes
Any information, please contact me.
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I just completed a thesis on "Forward osmosis for wastewater treatment and energy recovery: A technoeconomic analysis," in which I determined the cost of forward osmosis treatment for municipal wastewater. I am happy to send you the .pdf file if you are interested in my results.
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companies who are working on membrane distillation
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Thank you very much for the answer to my question
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My velocity profile is just coming according to the concerned research paper but my temperature profile is not coming according to it and is not changing in the region. The temperature value is constant however it should change in that region. Kindly help me this? I badly need it. I cannot get the hack from last two weeks.
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Membrane distillation is a simultaneous process which involves both heat and
mass transfer processes. There are two approaches for modeling MD. The
first one concerns the modeling of the transport mechanism through the hydrophobic
membrane. The second concerns with the overall modeling for predicting the permeate flux at given operation conditions. A linear relationship between the mass flux (Jm) and the water vapor pressure difference ∆Pv across the membrane was suggested to describe the water vapor transport in MD. Therefore, you have to check your equations, especially the Antoine equation, where the vapour pressure increases exponentially with temperature ..
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I would like to know that To operate Membrane distillation cell at 80 deg. cel., Acrylic or Stainless seel which is more suitble?..I would like to prefer Acrylic. is it correct choice?
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Ask supplier about temperature stability also. At higher temperature swelling of Acrylic may observed. But if you want to use water only than it is good.
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What are the capital and operating costs for seawater desalination technologies including Multi Effect Distillation (MED), Seawater Reverse Osmosis (SWRO), Membrane Distillation (MD) and Forward Osmosis (FO) desalination?
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                                                MSF                     MED                  RO
 
Capital cost ($/m3/J) :          1100-1600            900-1250            700-1000
Operation cost ($/m3/J):         1,5 - 1,8               1,0 - 1,5              0,5 - 1,0
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Membrane distillation (MD) is not fully commercialized yet, I'm looking for experts opinion in this area and what should be done next in order to improve this technology. 
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In simple terms:
1. Right application. Full knowledge of water analysis (Composition of ionic as well as non-ionic impurities, organics, silica, suspended solids, hardness, etc. RIGHT PRETREATMENT WILL BE THE KEY
2. Bench tests with actual wastewater
3. Pilot studies, 3-6 months in the field, complete with pretreatment
4. Feasibility study including CAPEX and OPEX analysis
5. Full knowledge of MD membrane chemistry, membrane configuration, membrane flux with given conditions,
6. Full cooperation between MD supplier, engineer and Owner
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What is the future of membrane distillation applications in industry? What are the barriers that have prevented it so far from becoming fully commercialized?
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Membrane Distillation (MD) is most certainly a viable technology, and compete with more traditional technologies such as Seawater RO and Multi-Effect Distillation (MED) plants. Membrane Distillation is a newer technology, has more companies entering the market but still lacks large number of commercial installation. Companies such as Memsys from Germany has Membrane Distillation product, has sold large systems in China, and has done pilot plant work in the USA.
Based on my evaluation, MD technology should be considered for desalination of non-traditional sources of wastewater including reject streams from Cooling towers, Air scrubbers blowdown streams and coal pile runoff from power plants, RO reject streams, etc. If waste heat is available (Example, condensate loop or air stack for power plants) then the technology could be more affordable, will require less power.
Most Membrane Distillation technologies are made with the materials that can be exposed to wide pH range, wide range of chemicals, oxidizing environment, etc.
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In membrane distillation, one of the main issues is how to optimise the membrane thickness. So, what is the possibility of introducing a membrane that is specially designed for distillation considering the optimised thickness?
Such an optimisation can potentially improve the whole membrane distillation process which can lead to an energy efficient MD process and fresh water production. 
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I couldn't agree with Prof Hassan and Dr Lijo more on the potential of MD for water desalination with the readily availability of waste heat on site. As demonstrated in our recent publications, electrical energy consumption of seawater MD desalination is by far lower than that of RO, thus MD can be arguably an energy saving alternative to RO when waste heat can be utilized.
Just want to add that MD can be an ideal candidate for small-scaled seawater desalination in remote coastal areas where RO is restricted due to the lack of infrastructure, pre-treatment facilities, chemicals, and expertise.
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hello everyone. i am trying to  separate an azeotropic mixture by azeotropic distillation using an entrainer of low boiling  point but separation is not achieved as the entrainer comes as a top product from the ist column whileas both components of binary mixture are obtained as a bottom product and are not separated. can anyone please help by giving their valuable answers.
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Dear Asma
Azeotropic mixtures may often be effectively separated by distillation by adding a third component, called entraine.In chemistry azeotropic distillation[s any of a range of techniques used to break anazeotropein distillation In chemical engineering, azeotropic distillation usually refers to the specific technique of adding another component to generate a new, lower-boiling azeotrope that is heterogeneous (e.g. producing two, immiscible liquid phases), such as the example below with the addition of benzene to water and ethanol. This practice of adding an entrainer which forms a separate phase is a specific sub-set of (industrial) azeotropic distillation methods, or combination thereof. In some senses, adding an entrainer is similar to extractive distillation. Separation of azeotropic mixtures is a topic of great practical and industrial interest. Most liquid mixtures of organic components form nonideal systems. The presence of some specific groups, particularly polar groups (oxygen, nitrogen, chlorine and fluorine), often results in the formation of azeotropes. Azeotropic mixtures may often be effectively separated by distillation by adding a liquid material (entrainer) to the system.
In most cases, azeotropic mixtures require special methods to facilitate their separation. There is a need to search for a separating agent other than energy, and this agent might be a membrane material for pervaporation or an entrainer for extractive distillationy adding a liquid material (entrainer) to the system. Entrainer completely miscible with the original components . Entrainer may (or not) form additional azeotropes with the original components . The distillation is carried out in a sequence of columns .The addition of the entrainer results in a residue curve map promising for separation. Both original components must belong to the same distillation region .e.g.
When the positive deviations from ideality are sufficiently large, the mixture is said to form a minimum-boiling azeotrope. The Figures below show the constant temperature phase diagram (Above) and constant pressure phase diagram plus equilibrium curve (Below) for a minimum-boiling azeotropic mixture of carbon disulfide (CS2) and acetone. The characteristic of such mixture is that the total pressure goes through a maximum (constant temperature phase diagram), and therefore the temperature goes through a minimum (constant pressure phase diagram), shown as point L.At point L, the concentration in the vapour phase is the same as the concentration in the liquid phase ( y = x ), and a = 1.0. This concentration is known as the azeotropic composition (0.61 mole fraction CS2). At this point, the mixture boils at a constant temperature (39.25 oC under 1 atm) and without change in composition. On the equilibrium diagram, it can be seen that at this point, the equilibrium curve crossed the 45o diagonal.
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I want to fabricate a cell for membrane distillation in my laboratory, and I need a prototype or image of experiment materials like the volumes of different phases and the distance between membrane and air gap for AGMD configuration.
Please, if you have any information or you have some documents
Mant thanks in advance
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Dear Tarik Eljaddi,
Whats your expected active membrane area?
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we can use polymeric membranes to improve drinking water facilities by membrane distillation, but how we can make a resisted membrane to wetting problem ?
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Simple question - but complex answer. Just some hints there.
Wettability is not trivial - it depends on (i) the liquid considered, and the composition of the solution - since some contaminants may adsorb and favour wetting ("fouling") and (ii) the material surface energy, pore size and roughness.
To reduce wetting typically - get membranes with the right pore size to limit/prevent capillary diffusion in the pores at your feed or permeate liquid working hydrostatic pressure. Then depending on your feed solution - but typically increase roughness and tune surface energy of your materials. Obviously low surface energy for water, may vary for oil based feeds depending n the oil. Very tricky - but feasible for mixed solvents (ethanol/water etc...).
There are quite a number of studies looking at the impact of multiple of individual parameters involving surface wettability etc... check our review on MD (Water - MDPI).
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Many papers claim "removal of x and y from water or wastewater by membrane distillation", for me such titles are misleading because the fact is different, it is recovery of water as a vapor through the membrane while keeping the claimed-removed species stay in the brine. What do you think?
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You´re right, but it is quite usual to focus on the process benefits more than on the real fact behind
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The conventional thermal desalination have much higher fluxes than membrane distillation. Why MD flux is not as high as the flux of the conventional units?
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Suggested reading:
ADNAN, S., HOANG, M., WANG, H. & XIE, Z. 2012. Commercial PTFE membranes for membrane distillation application: Effect of microstructure and support material, Desalination 284: 297-308
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Looking for experiments/experiences where forward osmosis is coupled with membrane distillation to improve overall water recovery or separate draw solution from the treated water?
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Yes. RO and MD can be coupled
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The design of the membrane module and the type of the hydrophobic membrane could be the major limitations affect the performance of the membrane process.
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So far, MD has not been commercialized yet due to the cost of heat needed for the feed. Solar heating was attempted but it is rather expensive. Most MD companies are now trying to create market for this technology in niche applications involving free (waste) heat. The examples of that are many.
In addition, low flux membranes and fouling issues have also proven to be significant.