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Deep sea is the process of retrieving mineral deposits from the deep seabed – the ocean below 200m.
Is it necessary with the actual advancement in technologies? And the increasing need for more mineral ressources ?
It's beneficiary? Or too risky?
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The future of deep-sea mining presents a dichotomy of potentialities and risks that demand careful consideration. On the one hand, it holds the promise of accessing valuable mineral resources critical for modern technologies, potentially reducing the environmental impact associated with terrestrial mining, and fostering economic opportunities for resource-rich countries. Moreover, the development of deep-sea mining technologies could fuel innovation and drive progress in marine engineering and robotics. However, these potentialities must be weighed against substantial environmental and ethical risks. Deep-sea mining operations have the potential to disrupt fragile and poorly understood ecosystems, release toxic substances into the ocean, and trigger long-term consequences that are difficult to predict. Regulatory challenges, resource depletion, economic viability concerns, and ethical and social issues further complicate the path forward. Striking a balance between harnessing these resources and protecting the deep-sea environment will require robust scientific research, stringent environmental impact assessments, and comprehensive regulatory frameworks to ensure that the benefits of deep-sea mining are realized without compromising the health of our oceans and the well-being of local communities.
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I am hoping to get some help in identifying these flakes found in a sediment core from Trondheimsfjord, Norway. They are approximately 1mm thick. and 1-2 cm diameter (biggest, but most are broken into smaller flakes). They are solid, but easy to break. They react with HCl on light grey 'top side' but not on dark, rusty (?) 'underside' (see photos). Are they worm burrow linings? They only occur between 26-28 cm down core (although the core is only half a metre long) from about 500 m depth in the fjord. Thanks for your thoughts!
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Thanks Antonio. These flakes probably date to around 1930 or a little earlier. They occur immediately above a charcoal layer (although we can't find any historical records for a fire at this time). Sedimentation rates probably between 1-2mm/year.
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Hello everybody. I am a student at the end of my bachelor's degree in marine geology. I'm looking for proposals and suggestions for the end of the course work. In particular, I would be interested in geophysical methods (petrophysical, seismic,) and Coastal geology. That said, I evaluate proposals in all areas of Marine Geosciences.
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Satellite driven data integrated with local geology will give you good suface control and then seismic stratigraphy integrated with well loh sequence stratigrpahy can help you demarcate pockets suitable for hydrocarbons
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Please tell me where oceanic crust is very thick and why? Is it related to the plume? I hope to listen a diffrent answer(one place which has thick oceanic crust, but the reason is uncertain)
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Yes it does. You can read more about crustal thickness beneath 900East ridge (Indian Ocean), Walvis ridge (Atlantic Ocean), Shatsky rise (Pacific Ocean) etc.
Oceanic crust under the influence of plumes may get thickened by magmatic addition at the base of the crust. Processes of such 'underplating' may depend upon prevailing tectonics. I suggest you read more about oceanic plateaus and aseismic ridges to discover more.
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This is more an update, not really a question. But did you know that Harris et al. (2014), doi:10.1016/j.margeo.2014.01.011) have done a great job with making a worldwide map of marine geomorphology? The map may be downloaded (as zipped shape files) from http://www.bluehabitats.org/
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Wow, many thanks ! Indeed a piece of sweet cake for my project (Mariana Trench, Pacific Ocean).
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We have gabbro, pyroxenite, and serpentinized peridotite in a small area (5*5 km), adjacent to a greenschist-facies subduction melange (5 km far to the west). We also have "metamorphic sole" rocks including Pl-Amp migmatite within the pyroxenite.
All of those ultramafic-mafic rocks are depleted in HFSE and enriched in Pb and Sr.
The serpentinized peridotite is slightly depleted in LREE with no Eu anomalies. It is also depleted in Th, U, P, and HFSE.
The pyroxenite is significantly depleted in Th, U, P, HFSE, and LREE. However, the uralited pyroxenite is nearly flat in REE diagram and enriched in Th, U and P.
The gabbros are enriched in LREE and LILE with positive Eu anomalies.
The migmatite of the metamorphic sole has similar pattern with the pyroxenite.
In V vs. Ti diagram most of them plot in/near the IAT (& slab-proximal BABB and FAB) area.
They were possibly the SZ(subduction zone)-proximal ophiolite (SSZ type), however, they were also possibly the lower crust and mantle of an island arc.
So the question is: when we lost the upper crust, how to name those ultramafic-mafic rock complex, island arc or ophiolite? (answered)
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How to interpret the LREE depletion of the ultramafic rocks, which "seems to be contradict with SSZ origin"?
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I recommend Cemal's answer
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Are there any free softwares in processing marine seismic reflection data in jsf format?
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It is difficult to get free softwares this days. Those ones tag free may not be able to do the work for you because some vital components in the software are some times deactivated
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I can't find other works involving Micromorpholgy and tsunami deposits (or storm deposits interpreted as tsunamiites)
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Macro- and micromorphological aspects of tsunami deposits in Crete were published in the following publication:
Bruins, H.J., MacGillivray, J.A., Synolakis, C.E., Benjamini, C., Keller, J., Kisch, H.J., Klügel, A. and Van der Plicht, J. (2008) Geoarchaeological tsunami deposits at Palaikastro (Crete) and the Late Minoan IA eruption of Santorini. Journal of Archaeological Science 35(1): 191-212.
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I'm looking for an existing tool (maybe a matlab code or a spreadsheet) to have as an output theoretical models of P-wave velocity variation vs hydrate saturation, in order to compare these models (pore-filling, load-bearing, cementing, patchy) with some real data...
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RPH tools List of Matlab files The Rock Physics Handbook, 2nd Edition,Mavko,Mukerji, and Dvorkin, also QSItools another Matlab list with rock physics templates.
You can try using Pimpedance vs Vp/Vs and color code with Gas hydrate saturation I  think these files can help you.
I hope that it will help you.
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It's so different of seawater composition in different geological time. Some researchers think the key point is the expansion of the mid-oceanic ridges. How did it change the composition of seawater? Did it have ability to affect all global seawater?
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Dear Syed Abbas Jafar, Sebastián Grande, Ashkan Vafadar, Drishya Girishbai,
Thanks very much for your great answers. Because my attention is mainly about the deposits of evaporites, I don`t think it has the ability to change all global seawater by MORB-RELEASE frequently. But, there are two papers(Heinrich D. Holland et al., 1996; Lawrence A. Hardie, 1996), which give me a viewpoint that different type of marine evaporites in different geological times are caused by "seawater-basalt interaction", "seafloor generation rate" and "dolomitization". It`s remain difficult to difinite quantities of contributions by MORB. I believe it is a complicated exchange system.
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Further, a profile showing a distance-water depth profile between the shore line and my core site (red dot; GeoB12605-3) will be perfect.
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Dear Claudemir Vasconcelos,
Thanks for your help, it looks very nice!
I will try to use the Geomapapp to get it.
Cheers,
Xiting
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which are th processes that, apart of hydrate dissociation and formation influence the chlorinity profiles in natural gas hydrate systems?
1. Fluid advectio from below? (Which fluids?)
2. Sea level fluctuations? (which is the impact)
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Is there any available and easy model ?
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First things to consider are advection and diffusion, and there are old (but not necessarily simple) models for chlorinity profiles in gas hydrate systems. See Davie and Buffett (2001,2003, in JGR and EPSL)
Sedimentation and compaction implies that pore water moves with respect to the solids, even in the absence of an external fluid source. Both hydrate distribution in the sediment and choride concentration are influenced by this process.
Fluid advection from below can occur, and seawater salinity varies during glacial-interglacial cycles. For instance, both processes where observed at Blake Ridge (see Egeberg and Dickens, 1998). Seawater is more saline during glaciations because there is more ice on the continents, and this is reflected in chloride advection-diffusion profiles worldwide (See Adkins and Schrag, 2002).
External fluid sources often invoked are clay and organic matter diagenesis. On the other hand, alteration of volcanic glass (that may be present in the sediment) into clay (dominantly smectites) takes up pore water. Volcanic ash diagenesis in the sediment (as well as basalt alteration in the oceanic crust) can thus increase in situ chlorinity at low temperature while smectite/Illite reaction will lower chlorinity as temperature increase (e.g. Henry and Bourlange, 2004). These processes happen beneath the gas hydrate stability field but can influence pore fluid composition in the shallow sediment by advection-diffusion.
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I have recovered this specimen from oligo/Miocene horizon, the type of associated fossils belong to fossil fish and may be belong to fish othilith?
Note: the scale is 5 mm using the square that contained the specimen.
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Dear Mohammed! This specimen looks like a small fish otolith, however I can not determine it. If so, You may contact with Werner Schwarzhans (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Werner_Schwarzhans) or with Bettina Reichenbacher (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bettina_Reichenbacher).
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Hello everyone,
Could someone tell me the reasons that why some regions (such as the east coast of Brazil, Caribbean Sea, South Pacific Ocean, and west coast of India) having much higher carbonate saturation state than other tropical areas in present-day oceans? Any introduction or literature supply will be appreciated.
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As noted earlier, water temperature is a big factor due to the retrograde solubility of CaCO3 minerals (calcite and aragonite). However, calcification decreases the saturations state of water (Ca + 2HCO3 --> CaCO3 + CO2). Photosynthesis (e.g., phytoplankton blooms) will decrease the pCO2 of waters in the euphotic zone, thus increasing the pH and saturation state of the waters with respect to CaCO3.
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 We observed crescent depression with 1-2km width and 200m depth nearer to seamounts. Multibeam data when we first analysed we suspected it may be of turbudity. (Since all depressions are arranged in almost in a single direction).
But later detailed subbottom profiling & ROV  revealed that they are hard bottom.
If anybody can give probable reason for its formation will be a great help.
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Have you considered fluid flow features e.g., pockmarks? For instance, crescent pockmarks ca. 1500 wide and ca. 150 deep have been documented in the South China Sea (cf. Morphologies, classification and genesis of pockmarks, mud volcanoes and associated fluid escape features in the northern Zhongjiannan Basin, South China Sea). Best wishes!
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test dissolution
calcareous foraminifers
calcareous test
CCD
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Kader,
besides dissolution below the CCD and in high latitudes, as referred by Syed, you have to consider also dissolution of calcareous foraminifer tests during the diagenesis of sediments in restricted environments poor in carbonate. Typically some brackish marginal environments like lagoons, marshes and mudflats but sometimes also in normal marine conditions. Foraminifer assemblages in such cases are solely agglutinated, but in case of early diagenetic pyritization or silicification you may find rare casts of calcareous forms or casts of isolated chambers.
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I'm aware that K-H instabilities arise when there are two overlying parallel flows of different shear and density.  In this case the instability would occur at the interface.  What of an instance where the flows are perpendicular?  I haven't come across any literature discussing this possibility.  Anyone know of a source?
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The problem that I'm investigating is related to topics in atmospheric science, specifically the planetary boundary layer. A lot of overlap can be found between the two branches, but I'm looking at a specific problem that might require a detour in this direction. I have found laboratory experiments discussing the interaction of two jets, but these are narrow jets, and I'm not sure the same would result if the jets were much broader O~100km.
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Does anyone note this cycles?  The eccentricity cycles, 2Ma-3Ma-2Ma...the 100 kyr cycles is not clear in the transitions
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~2.4Ma is a component of eccentricity
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I will use various techniques to purify the target compound and i am not sure What should I do after purification and What kind of methods should I use?
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Thanks so much Gemilang. I am gonna look at them and I am sure it will be helpful 
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methods or papers are well accepted :)
I'm interested in particular on fracture filling hydrates
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Archie's equation remains the best option for estimate saturation from resistivity logs
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''In sedimentary basins, it is commonly assumed that the overburden (sv) is the maximum principle stress and, thus, the least principle stress is oriented horizontally'' (Reilly and Flemings, 2010).
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 I think this article by Zoback et al (2003) may somehow help to answer your question: Determination of stress orientation and magnitude in deep wells
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Thank you! It`s helpful for my research.
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Dear Qunfeng,
You can separated the different sedimentary sub-populations by using a simple MS Excel software with SOLVER. The difference between the measured and modelled values (sum of two/three Weibull distributions) has to be minimized. See my attachment.
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I would like to study sediment cores from Red Sea (Oligotrophic and less productive). Can I expect any signal using organic geochemical proxies??
Please Reply,
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Hi Rasiq,
Prior to adding an answer to your question some questions back. are you considering organic or inorganic geochemical proxies? For what purpose would you want to reconstruct paleoproductivity and on what time scales - e.g. Do you want to see changes over glacial/interglacial cycles to see the monsoon intensity or are you interested in the anthropogenic influence on the environment?
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As far as I am concerned, three sets of seismic facies can be discerned at the incised-valley filling system during the transgression period, namely the fluvial lag deposits, estuarine muds or sands, and a estuarine/transgression progradation. However, what is really weird when I track the infilling system at a buried fluvial channel system offshore of the Long Island, New York is that I can not find the second seismic facies - I can only find the fluvial lag deposits and onlap landward progradation. And the progradation exhibits landward is also very difficult to explain. Is there anyone can provide me some guidance to explain this infilling structure? or kindly recommend some references for me? Thanks a lot. 
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Perhaps it is the interpretation of estuarine that is wrong. The transgression of the Pleistocene glacial termination was very rapid. I published about a lake site in Maine (Borns et al., 2004), Ross Pond, with glaciomarine clays in the bottom 2 m of core, then a narrow (ca 3 cm) pyrite-rich deposit that points to anoxia such as occur in a salinity stratified lake or fjord, then organic rich lake gyttja. The transition from marine to lake occurred within 50 yrs. Other researchers examining late glacial sediments in Maine and New Hampshire (i.e. Belknap and Kelley) have published many papers about offshore transgressive sequences. Perhaps you can find an analogous situation there.
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Please see attached figure. How to plot the evolution cross-spectral phase of the single period? Is there a special software? I often use the CWT tool in matlab, but I can not expot the data of the single period evolution cross-spectral phase. Thank you very much. 
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Mr. Ma,
Let me see if I missunderstood your problem. What you need is to export that information?
If that is the case, consider using the "wcoher" function, this returns the numerical values, and when you plot your results, you can save the graphics in EPS or other formats.
I hope this helps.
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Any specialist on this platform. In sand grade beach sediments, how do you explain the preponderance of rutile over zircon and tuormaline and vice versa while suggesting provenance?
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The predominance of rutile over zircon and tourmaline in beach sand sediments occurs when the area of origin consists of high temperature, high pressure igneous rocks, granites, pegmatites and anorthosites. Furthermore, the rutile came from schists, high pressure gneisses and metamorphosed limestones.
Conversely, tourmaline predominates when tourmaline-rich granites and pegmatites or as well as high-temperature hydrothermal veins are present in the area of origin.
The predominant occurrence of zircons points to areas of origin with mafic pegmatites and carbonatites, as well as zirconium-rich igneous and metamorphic rocks.
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I am preparing final task about seismic oceanographic to describe the structure thermohaline in waters Waigeo, Papua. I have two location of CTD on seismic line that I use. I am using PROMAX software to processing seismic data. I do not completely understand the method of seismic oceanography and the way processing seismic data. Would you explain me details method of seismic oceanography and how to processing seismic data?
I have some questions:
How the relationship between CTD data and seismic data on seismic oceanography? Data CTD used to help create seismic section or data validation?
Equation sound speed in the ocean such as Wilson (1960) uses to calculate the sound speed derived from data CTD which would then be used for the normal moveout correction (NMO), the stacked section converted to depth section and making synthetic seismogram; or the equation uses to calculate the temperature value from the sound speed value is known from velocity analysis on seismic data?
Seismic section is the result from the normal moveout correction (NMO) which uses sound speed from velocity analysis on seismic data or adopted a velocity model derived from CTD data?
How to make synthetic seismograms on seismic oceanography?
Do any references or books talk about these problems?
Thanks for any help from you!
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 Thank you all for attention and suggest :)
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Dear Robert,
I'm glad to see so nice bedrooms. It's now quite clear this does not correspond to artifacts. The visible particles from the camera indicates you're in a quite energetic area with strong currents, probably of tidal origin, but this has to be proven. The regular double pattern you see is for me an indication of a probable tidal origin. I don't understand your last statement. To my point of view, there is no chance that these dunes are of aeolian origin, even formed during last ice age. The seismic profile is of poor quality, but displays a 10ms-thick unit probably of Holocene sediments truncating ancient sediments. If there is a chance to get a core there, you can look for a place where the underlying unit outcrops. The sediment could be hard and make strong reflection on side-scan sonar. You may find some elements to think about dunes looking to the abstracts from the 3 first Marid conferences. I already sent you the link for the next conference in Bangor. Best wishes, Alain T.
Don"t worry. It's a French site having very few French instructions you can manage easily. I'll ask the Marid 2013 (Brugge) conference abstracts to be included.
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Please look at the attached figure (Heiko Palike et al., 2012, nature). At ~34 Ma, we can find the CCD deepening, carbonate accumulation, pCO2 decreasing,  ice-sheet expansion, and Antarcitic cooling. Mybe the trigger was  ice-sheet expansion induced by  low insolation. If the decrease of the pCO2 was uptaked by ocean, will be not good for carbonate accumulation. Isn't that a bit of a contradiction? How about the relationship between these variations? Thank you very much!
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Additional references that will be helpful:
Coxall, H.K., Wilson, P.A., Pälike, H., Lear, C.H., and Backman, J., 2005, Rapid stepwise onset of Antarctic glaciation and deeper calcite compensation in the Pacifi c Ocean: Nature, v. 433, p. 53–57, doi: 10.1038/nature03135.
Coxall, H. K., and P. A. Wilson (2011), Early Oligocene glaciation and productivity in the eastern equatorial Pacific: Insights into global carbon cycling, Paleoceanography, 26, PA2221, doi:10.1029/2010PA002021.
Lear, C.H. et al., 2008, Cooling and ice growth across the Eocene-Oligocene transition: Geology, v. 36(3), p. 251-254.
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Now, I want to model the Ice sheet forcing to the vegetation variation and carbon isotope of the deep ocean, which model I should use? 
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Dear all,
An unfortunately uncompleted list of ice sheet models could be found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-sheet_model
You may have a look at seaRISE web page: http://websrv.cs.umt.edu/isis/index.php/Main_Page for some aspects about ice sheet modelling.
Also some articles in the framework of the European Ice2Sea project have done some model intercomparions, which should guide your selection as well.
However before you may go into the business of selecting an ice sheet model, you may shall first thing about the points below:
  • Which time period do you have in mind? Are we talking about centuries, millennia or even longer time scales?
  • Since ice sheets react to boundary conditions such as accumulation (mass gain) or ablation (mass loss). Where shall the data come from that will drive your model?
  • Are you considering adding a direct ocean-ice shelf interaction? If so, again the question has to be answered, where does the ocean forcing comes from and if you want to consider feedback loops, such as more melting impacts the ocean stratification and therefore the delivery of heat by the ocean.
  • Since you are talking about carbon isotopes, fractionation of isotopes in general during the metamorphose process that turns snow into firn and ultimately into ice needs some attention. Else your isotope signature in the sheet ice might be just wrong (Hence any validation of the model results might be quite frustrating). After you may have managed to set the adequate isotope signature at the ice sheet margin, a transport module that pushes the stuff through the ice sheet is needed: Some ice sheet models have such modules which might require “some” adjustments.
  • Since you may want to model the interaction between vegetation, ocean (including its biogeochemical cycles?), and implicitly the atmosphere, you may like to use an earth system model. Since you are probably addressing long time scales you may use EMICs (Earth system Models of Intermediate Complexity). If so the forcing (question 2) might be spatially coarse. Hence a very sophisticated model is not needed, here a model that uses the so-called “Shallow Ice Approximation” (SIA) deems to be sufficient. Here resolutions is quite coarse, does this fit to your question regarding the influence on vegetation?
  • The access to computer facilities and the support by your institute and colleague shall not be forgotten as a decisive condition
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I am trying to find best (up to 3,5m in length) probe or corer solution for 22 x 5,5m vessel with 77t tonnage. It has a 4m high crane that can lift up to 2t. The back deck is about 5 x 5m big so it's a little bit small area for deployment and recovery of such equipment.
It's very important that the probe can reach through sand or sandy sediments.
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Dear Ivan,
The only instrument that will penetrate sand to the depth you have in mind (up to 3.5 m) is a vibrocorer. Without vibration no coring device will penetrate more than a few decimetres (at most) into sand, irrespective of how much weight you add; the friction along the pipe/box wall is simply too large. As far as I know, there are a number of vibrocorers on the market, although usually designed for core pipes up to at least 5 or 6 m. You should therefore get in touch with the companies constructing such instruments (you'll probably find them on Google) and specifiy the size you need. I'm sure most corers on the market can be modified to suit your purpose.
Good luck and best regards, Burg Flemming
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reports, papers, etc.
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Many thanks to all of you fir your feedbacks.
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Meaning, we occasionally see isolated sand waves which are anomalously tall and steep, albeit with a relatively short crest length. The surrounding scour is identical to the scour around a bluff body such as a cylinder. I feel sandwaves may build to a tipping point, beyond which some sort of change in flow regime takes place(?) Is this described in any literature? These sand waves are from the North West Shelf of Australia. Thanks.
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 A simple model used for different purposes (pdf attached) by the way we have the sandwave as an complete outcrop
The shells are acting as sedimentary particles
The evidence from sedimentary structures and the stratigraphic and biostratinomic context of shell layers are used here to describe how shell beds are formed within a sedimentary sand wave. Shell beds in the Pliocene San Nicola´s Formation,
within the Baja California Central Domain, were accumulated through the physical processes of gravity induced flow currents. The hydraulic regime and sedimentary differences between the up-current slope and the leeward slope part of
the sand wave can be explained by flow stratification. The taphonomic differences between the fossil concentrations of the bottom and the upper layers in the leeward slope are a result of a change in the current dynamics for the basin. The
leeward slope side of the sand wave represents episodic, short-term, dynamic bypassing in gravity-induced, low-flow current beds creating shell beds.
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Does anyone know where I can find quantitative values for the percentages of septa, theca, costa, Exodissepiment, and Endodissepiment architectural structures in various corals (or just Montastraea) Thank you very much. John Paul Jones
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You can refer to Materials and Methods section in article entitled : Recovery of temperature records from slow-growing corals by fine scale sampling of skeletons by Anne L. Cohen1 and Simon R. Thorrold (2007), GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 34
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I have measured geometric parameters of meandering belts and meandering channels, i want to know how to find the velocity of flow   with in channel with distance. 
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Velocity will also vary with flow height and concentration, not easily derived from channel geometry.
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I am working on a marine sediment dated as Miocene, from the northwestern of Madagascar (Ramihangihajason et al., 2014. « Miocene benthic foraminifera from Nosy Makamby and Amparafaka, Mahajanga Basin, northwestern Madagascar, Journal of African Earth Sciences 100, 409-417)
Last month, I processed those samples in order to check the diatoms into them, but I didn't find even one specimen. So, I wonder if there is any explanation for that. Thank you
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In warm seas diatoms may not survive during diagenesis - I've never encountered diatoms in my own Paleogene material. However, I note in your paper, that your smallest size fraction is 0.2 mm. This is too large for all but perhaps the largest diatoms. Also for foraminiferal studies you should better use smaller size fractions, at least 125 microns or better even (when preservation permits) 63 micron. The diversity of your assemblages will increase significantly. Absence of planktic forams is no surprise in a very shallow environment, but you may find them also in the smaller size fraction, possibly washed in from the open sea.
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Barium in marine sediments controlled by terrigenous supply and diatom production. But what controls Gallium in marine sediments? Is it only by terrigenous?
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Dear Mr. Balaji,
barium is primarily controlled in marine environments by magmatic processes, being, in places, instrumental for the emplacement of Kuroko-type (VMS) and Rammelsbergy-type (SMS) base metal mineralization, dependant upon the geodynamic setting. It goes  along with the precipiation of baryte. Ba can substitute for K in all K-bearing silicates and as such increases along with the detrital input into the basin. Gallium can replace to some degree aluminium in its host minerals and as such will also act as a marker of the detrital input.
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Hello everyone,
Have any of you used CT scans of sediments to get a density profile/trace? Specifically, I am working with marine and lake sediment cores. I have used CT scans before for their imagery and have exported profiles of their densities based on their grayscale values in ImageJ, Sante DICOM Viewer, and Osirix, but we'd like to move into using our CT scans a bit more quantitatively. I processed the dicom files with the same window and level settings within individual cores, but was not always able to use the same settings from one core to another when I created images (.jpegs, .tiffs, etc.) from the dicoms (sandier cores would be washed out or muddier cores would be too dark to see detail otherwise). Now, though, we'd like to access the actual, or as close to actual, densities as possible. I've read a little bit about calibrating CTs to a known value (I was thinking air that got imaged around the cores, or their PVC/plastic core liners) and about using the Hounslow scale to at least approximate actual densities. I was wondering if a) anyone's got any thoughts on finding good ways to tie CTs to actual densities, and b) if anyone can think of any pitfalls to watch out for while I do this.
Thank you for any help or suggestions you can give!
- Bran
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Hello Mihai and Ferdinand,
Thank you both for responding so quickly! Mihai - looks like you've confirmed some of my concerns about properly calibrating my scale. I think it's going to take some special consideration. Thank you for the link, Ferdinand. I will take a look. 
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In the current 'climate change' syndrome, we are constantly looking for ways of ridding the atmosphere of accumulating radiative gases (so-called 'greenhouse gases, GHGs': H2O, CO2, and CH4). Over the last 3 decades, we have found thousands of locations in the seafloor, where one of the strongest GHGs is escaping, namely methane, CH4. These are active gas vents, or seeps, which are easily tracked acoustically, their manifestations known as mid-water gas plumes, or just 'flares'. I have recently found a way of harvesting such gas seepage, with a device (or system) called SUMECO: "submarine methane collector" (see my latest written contribution, in my profile). I belive this to be a viable and cost-effective way of harvesting methane from the seafloor, for use as a resource.
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The source varies.  Only a minority of described seeps are from melting clathrates. This is more common in deep water and in the Arctic.  Some seeps are of thermogenic methane and there are examples of carbon dioxide seeps that contain only a minor amount of methane.  Most shallow-water seeps are from biogenic gas reservoirs and the gas is channeled to the surface along fault lines.  For example, in the North Sea nearly all the described seeps are of shallow biogenic methane, even though there are thermogenic gas reservoirs deeper in the sedimentary column. The methane may have been generated in interglacial deposits, as in the shallow Danish seeps, or have come from more recent carbon in fast-sedimenting areas such as the Skagerak and northern Gulf of California, or be from mixed sources.
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Hi. I wonder if someone could recommend to me some specific methods for a complete analysis project of a sediment core from a submarine canyon (depth: 300 m). So far, i have applied grain-size analysis and X-ray diffraction. My next steps will be: sediment dating (210Pb), X-ray fluorescence analysis and Corg as well. I would like to know what other methods are used in order to identify recent sedimentation processes in a marine area in the best way
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Dear Mr. Sergiu,
I take three different steps.
1.Make use of non-destructive methods by capturing digital data (gamma ray, magnetic susceptibility, micro-resistivity with the Wenner Array)
Advanced level: core scanning for structures, textures... and chemical analysis, including portable XRF. This depends upon the goal of your work. There are more non-destructive methods
2. Take one half of the core slap for mineralogical analyses:
Grain size analysis with the CAMSIZER (sand only)
Separation of grain size fraction
- clay mineralogy < 20µm
- heavy and light minerals 20 to 300 µm
- take a larger rock chip for thin section
Clay mineralogy is performed using XRD + IR spectroscopy + CEC-SEM-EDX/WDX
Heavy minerals routine analysis (under the petrographic microscope) advanced level SEM- WDX/EDX or EMP
3. Take the second half for chemical analysis
- XRF (more than 40 elements)
-ICPMS (trace elements + REE)
4. Age dating depends upon the age expected and your goal
I wish you much success
Harald G. Dill
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I am looking for a protocol to sample and analyze flocculent matter (anaerobic, gases, etc).
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Dear Salvo
You may visit the following link for more information:
The attached files can help you further.
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Xiaolin,
What you ask does not have a simple answer and the ability to calculate palaeodepths will vary depending on what data you have available. It will also become more difficult depending on the location and how far you go back in time, as tectonic factors will complicate matters.
There will also most likely be a significant degree of uncertainty.
Broadly speaking though, the factors you will need to consider will be:
  1. Eustasy - ice-volumes for the period you are looking at either leading to a reduction or increase in depth relative to contemporary.
  2. Isostasy - Is your location affected by the presence/absence of ice? Has it undergone uplift of subsidence. Is it in a fore-bulge region?
  3. Tectonics - is the location you are studying tectonically active? Has it been for a period that influences the period you are looking at? Over longer time periods this influences basin geometry and therefore volume.
  4. Dynamic topography - Mantle plumes lead to significant shifting of the position of the crust, as has recently been demonstrated looking on the eastern US margin (see Rowley et al. 2013, Science vol 340, p. 1560-1563).
  5. Subsidence via increased sediment deposition. For example a sediment fan will lead to crustal depression.
  6. Sedimentation - you may have to back-strip sediments deposited in the intervening period. This in turn will influence subsidence/uplift.
I don't mean to over complicate things - but there is a lot going on! So the further back in time you are looking the harder it is. Considering the tropical Atlantic 20 ka ago it is a fairly simple matter, looking in the eastern Mediterranean 40 Ma ago will be harder (at this point I think it was still the Tethys).
In my opinion one of the better methods to do this involves looking at the palaeoshorelines, for instance the Orangeburg Scarp, which demarcks a Pliocene shoreline in the US. It is also possible (on a coarse scale) to look at benthic foraminiferal tests and see if you have any species that are depth limited.
Again though, these measures are influenced by those factors I listed above.
I think the best advice I could give would be to try and find as much information concerning the area and period you are looking at, and once you know what data you have available then make a decision about whether it is possible to reconstruct the palaeodepth.
If you do, then you can begin to look at the specific influences in the location and the begin to try and assign numbers. Though again, depending on where you are there may be large uncertainty.
Hope this helps.
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I aim on freezing the core then splitting it with a saw. However, freezing the core means that I may disrupt the sediment. So, I'm assuming it must be frozen quickly so water crystals don't grow large enough to disrupt the core. What is the correct temperature to do this, have you any advice/experience in this? Is -40'C enough?
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Hi, I have CT and X-ray. I have already split the core using a technique which was emailed to me. I froze the core and cut it with a diamond tipped saw. The end product was a split core with a polished surface and no apparent sediment disturbance. Thank you. 
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any website to download or any other way to develop such maps?
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Hi Devi,
maybe these are not really "paleostrandline" maps, but they could possibly help with their Figs. and references.
Then there is Smith et al. 2004: Atlas of Mesozoic and Cenozoic Coastlines
All-time favourites are of course the paleogeographic maps by Christopher Scotese (http://www.scotese.com/earth.htm), Ron Blakey (http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~rcb7/index.html), as well as the Ziegler maps, although I am not sure whether maps for South Asia are available from the latter. As far as I know, Gérard Stampfli might also have some paleoglobes in his papers.
Hope this helps, good luck with your work!
Cheers, Martin
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Does anyone know of a database that exists for all currently known and mapped submarine landslides that could then be applied for use in the development of a GIS map?
Or alternatively, where regional information/ databases could be acquired in order to develop a global database for the development of a GIS to map global submarine landslides?
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Last year Roger Urgeles published this pretty extensive database of landslides in the Mediterranean:
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I am bit curious to ask you couple of questions. First are we heading towards wetter monsoonal period and if yes what extreme we should expect for Asia. Second question is rather a concern. Historically wetter monsoonal period was responsible for the high sediment and water yields. So what would you reckon to happen with the dams and barrages we have developed during last century or so. Are they going to be silted up or they would burst?
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The increase in temperature and the increase in pressure of the
Atmosphere means the Atmosphere can store more water , and release more water.
The relationship is PV = nRT
P is the pressure,
V is the volume
and T is the Temperature in Kelvins
The increase in Atmospheric Pressure from
100,000 pascals in 1700 ( approximately )
101325 pascals in 1976 will eventually result
in a Temperature increase.
The old temperature was 13 + 273.15 = 286.15 kelvin
The new Temperature will eventually be
101325/100000 = 1.01325 x 286.15 = 289.94 Kelvin
which is a rise of 289.94 - 286.15 = 3.79 Kelvin or Centigrade.
So far it has only increased about 2 C of the future 3.79 C
based on the 1976 standard pressure.
Notice here that burning fossil fuels increases the volume of the
Atmosphere which will increase the pressure of the Atmosphere,
which will increase the Temperature of the atmosphere, which will
increase the water storage capacity of the Atmosphere, which means
when it rains, it will rain harder and longer.
notice also that there is a very great time delay between
when a system changes, and when all of the other changes will
eventually catch up. The enormous volume of the oceans has a
major effect in this long term delay of temperature increase.
notice also that the standard was the 1976 value, it would be higher
now, and will be higher yet in the future, and will continue to grow
even if we can by some miracle stop releasing CO2, and stop
increasing the Volume of the Atmosphere.
Even if we could stop the CO2 increase in volume now, the temperature
will continue to rise for the next two hundred to three hundred years.
The melting of all glaciers on the planet will raise sea levels by
216 feet / 3.28125 = 65.83 meters, and the expansion of the water will
increase that number.
so if you are planning a new house, make it at least 70 meters above
the current sea level elevation to stay above storm surges.
Dams will continue to fill up with sediment, but at a faster rate,
so design Dams that can be drained completely to allow the
sediment to flow through to the ocean.
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Does anyone know of any research into increased melt supply rates in volcanoes (preferably coastal or island arcs) as a result of sea level rise? Preferably with regard to the Early Holocene Sea Level Rise. I am trying to find further research to support the notion that mantle loading as a result of sea level rise and pressure increase can promote the ascension of fresh magma.
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At the mid oceanic spreading ridges, the magma rises in the rift to the
elevation of the equilibrium pressure, so a rise in ocean elevation will
mean a lower elevation of cooling and hardening of the magma in the
crack, and the opposite will be true if the ocean level falls.
The shape of the ocean floor is thus a geologic record of the
cyclical changes in the ocean elevations, and of its overall trend
toward a thinner ocean with a greater surface area.
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I am currently undertaking a desk study on heavy metal distribution in estuaries and other tidal channels and have read a lot of articles on it. However, I am interested in hearing about unpublished studies/ongoing research in this area. I will also like to know more about the dynamics of heavy metal distribution in tidal channels.
Thank you.
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Heavy metals are more likely to attach to organic matter and clays (mud have these) than sand. Clays and organic matter have surface functional groups (net negatively charged) that bind heavy metal (cations; positively charged). Thus, muddy samples will have more heavy metal than sandy sample simply because muddy samples has more clays and organic matter.
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There are many studies about the negative impacts of rising sea levels due to climate change. Are there any studies on the positive side of this phenomenon?
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Thinking for a while about this question allows me to realize that we need to test the flooding hypothesis by the increase of sea-level. We live in a habitable planet. Sea level may rise and temporary cause destruction to the coastal cities around the world. However, this will not last for long. Diversity of species (species richness) will increase due to warm and more humid climate. The earth will recover so fast similar to the fast diversification occurred after the K/Pg boundary when diversity and radiation of species increased only 50 ka after the asteroid impact (Pospichal, 1996). We are going to see many positive effects, however, not in our time. This probably will take from hundred of years up to thousands of years.
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They were deposited in the central Pacific ocean, which looks like snow slush.
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Hi Zhanhong, the attached paper might help.
Regards,
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What is the concentration of gold in basalts from Emperor seamount chain (Detroit Seamount)?
I cannot find articles about it.
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I recorded Au concentration of up to 11.7 ppm in basaltic intrusion cutting granite in south Western Australia.
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Such as public-available database or government agencies.
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USGS has a searchable database of monitoring stations. Are you in Florida? Check DBHydro run by the water management districts.
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Southeastern Turkey-generally Diyarbakır-Mardin area sediments a marker for the base of this topic?
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In Mid 1990's with H. Kozlu we had found out that the so called Silurian basal conglomerates in S Turkey actually correspond to Late Ordovician glacio-marine sediments (dropstones in G…oncuoglu, M.C. 1997. Distribution of Lower Paleozoic units in the Alpine Terranes of Turkey: paleogeographic constraints. In: Göncüoğlu, M.C. and Derman, A.S.(Eds), Lower Paleozoic Evolution in northwest Gondwana, Turkish Assoc. Petrol. Geol., Spec. Publ.No:3, 13-24, Ankara.). Monod et al (2003) and Ghienne et al (2010) then performed field work on these and have described the details of the Hirnantian glaciation. The most recent information is given in Kozlu, H. & Ghienne, J. F. (2012) Ordovician. In: Goncuoglu, M.C.& Bozdogan, N (Eds.) Paleozoic of Eastern Taurides-Guidebook . Gondwana and Its Petroleum Potential: A Field Workshop. Turk. Assoc. Petrol. Geologists. Spec. Publ. Nr. 7, 42-60.
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I intend to address the timing of abrupt climatic changes like glacial terminations. Can someone answer what is the best temporal resolution that can be achieved using foraminifera or other associated proxies from marine sediment cores. Can we get decadal or multi-decadal resolution?
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for marine sediments, its sediment rate is low and less than 10mm/ka. Centurial resolution may be more likely to get but decadal resolution is trying to achieve.
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I'm a little confused about the inter-changeability of these terms in a marine sedimentation context. My understanding is as follows:
Glaciogenic sedimentation = sedimentation derived from glaciers (or ice-sheets)
Glacimarine sedimentation = sedimentation derived from glaciers (or ice-sheets) that calve directly into the marine environment.
If this is correct then glacimarine sedimentation is a subset of glaciogenic and either of the terms could be used when referring to an ice-sheet that extends into the sea.
Can anybody provide some clarification?
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I don't think you need any clarification, your succinct definition is right on the mark. In "Glacimarine Environments: Processes and Sediments," Dowdeswell and Scourse (1990) defined glacimarine as "all those areas where sediment is deposited in the sea after release from glacier ice (including tidewater ice fronts, floating glacier tongues, ice shelves and icebergs) or sea ice." Since marine basins are more highly represented in the geologic record, even though this can be indeed be considered a subset of glacigenic, it is an important area of study. The book "Climate Modes of the Phanerozoic" (Frakes, Francis, and Syktus, 1992) is full of references to using marine sediments with increases or decreases of ice-carried dropstones as a proxy for ice-volume change.
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I'm studying fluvial-marine interaction and need references about incised valleys.
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To be honest there are so many.
This is a good old one from the New England Margin:
McMaster, R.; Ashraf, A., 1973, Drowned and buried valleys on the southern New England continental shelf, Marine Geology, vol 15, pp. 249 - 268
And one from the North Sea:
Praeg, D, 2003, Seismic imaging of mid-Pleistocene tunnel-valleys in the North Sea Basin—high resolution from low frequencies, Journal of Applied Geophysics, vol 53, pp. 273-298
This last article has been cited quite heavily by other articles you may find useful.
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Most of the papers that I came across are long term CO2 cycle (Ma scale). Is there any short term efficient cycle for CO2 to understand the anthropogenic interference?
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just check woodshole site and teh NOAA data on CO2 concentration. They have given a nest time series.
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I am going to analyse coral transect pictures with this program CPCe that I just downloaded. What is the best way to utilize this software? Are random points better or uniformed points?
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Hi Yen Yi,
the programmers provide instructions on their homepage: http://www.nova.edu/ocean/cpce/index.html and a QuickStart PDF: http://www.nova.edu/ocean/forms/cpce_quickstart_guide.pdf
Regarding your question if you should use random or uniformed points: I would go for the random selection since you exclude biases from potential patterns (like sand strips or linear wave impacts or whatsoever) that might be present in the uniform selection.
Furthermore, I can recommend an article by Pante & Dustan (2012) on how many points should be used in Point-Count Assessment:
Good luck with your analysis!
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I want to differentiate the continental influence and marine influence in different marginal marine sandstones.
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If we know the LSR of a nearer region, is it good to use the same for age calculation of whole core?Seeking suggestions of papers where this has been used in age calculation without going for dating the core.
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The short answer is no, it is not a good idea. Unless you can stratigraphically match all the intervals in a core (by varves or other markers) and can show that sediment thickness (taking into account compaction of the core as it is taken out of the ground) is the same between these markers, then their is likely to be differences in accumulation rates even in relatively closely spaced cores. If you look at a paper on Lake Mead cores (Rosen and Van Metre (2010), two cores taken less than a kilometer apart or so show a peak in DDE at different depths. When both cores were dated, the beaks were synchronous in time.
Full Reference:
Rosen M.R. and Van Metre, P.C. 2010, Assessment of multiple sources of anthropogenic and natural chemical inputs to a morphologically complex basin, Lake Mead, USA. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology, 294, 30-43.
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For instance structure "A" is sitting on substrate "B" (which has an assumed irregular top surface or a flat one, which needs to be determined as well)... I need to know of the methodology involved in this kind of an analysis.... Also here we can assume that the structure is a mass of land submerged in the ocean, with its substrate being the seafloor...
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You don't.
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I found a data set of 25cm intervals in a 3.5 m core and I want to show the variation of major and trace elements. Is it reasonable ?
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I suggest to have some non-destructive scaning of the core first and use the results as a template for research strategy, including what kinds questions you can ask, and accordingly set up our sampling plan. Recently I have seen a lot of XRF profiles of cores and realized to have a general understaiding of the core is very important, I plotted elemental ratios such as Ca/Fe, Mn/Fe, .... and so on, usually I can recognize major lithologic units, redox front, lamination, turbidite, salphate-methane interface, tephra and so on. Multisensor of physical properties (density, magnetic susceptibility and porosity) as well as color relfectance profiles are also very helpful.
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Some sedimentary columns are oxic, followed by anoxic bottom or intermediate sediments. Is this controlled by marine systems, terrestrial input or both?
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One prerequisite for well developed anoxic conditions is that the bottom-near waters remain stratified preventing oxygenation through overturn. Such a stratification can be due to salinity or temperature stability.
The Baltic Sea is a typical example of a large water body frequently experiencing anoxia in its deep basin due to inflow of more saline North Sea waters through the Danish Straits and further enhanced by lengthy periods of warm climates, e.g. during the Medieval Warm Period with strong algal blooms (high bioproductivity).
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Any comments and news on mapping seafloor and subseafloor strata in geological, geophysical, geotechnical, geoacoustical and biogeochemical contexts. The trends and future prospects of theories, methodologies, informations, services and strategies of developed research groups. References, websites, news blogs or any other kinds of information media.
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It is impossible to answer your question without knowing more about what you are currently doing and what type of equipment you have at your disposal. I myself worked for 4 decades building up a very successful marine geological research group at the Geological Survey of Finland whilst our main working area was the Baltic Sea. I should add that the Baltic Sea is in many senses like a miniature ocean.
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The submarine hydrothermal activity near the Ridge-Ridge-Ridge Triple Junction, Like Galapagos Triple Junction. Is it a valuable topic?
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I think it could be a very interesting topic for research to re-investigate plume hypothesis.
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I am using Cl and Ba as a proxy for productivity in sediments in the absence of Organic Carbon data. Can these types of indicators be used in Atlantic, Caribbean and Pacific oceans (e.g. in all marine sediments)?
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Many times, proxies for such studies are location specific due to differences in biodiversity and anthropogenic activities from a region to another region. So approach with several proxies will give reliable information
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I'm interested in seafloor mapping as a tool for coastal geological feautures interpretation and for shallow water archaeological and geoarchaeological research. Does anybody have a suggestion on basic reference literature I should start with and were I can find it? Thx in advance
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