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For the sake of recycling electrolyte of a polymer Li-ion battery, the salts like LiPF6 will be recycled with CO2 supercritical extraction method.
But how can we preserve the volatile organic solvent carbonates to be used again, as these solvents start evaporating as soon as a cell is opened?
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Ethylene carbonate is solid at room temperature, propylene carbonate is also very polar and certainly not volatile.
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I am new to the lithium-ion battery field and working with high-nickel cathodes, specifically NMC. I am encountering issues during slurry preparation: after stirring, the slurry solidifies.
The slurry composition is 80:10:10 (NMC: PVDF dissolved in NMP: carbon black), stirred for 40 minutes with alternating vacuum and non-vacuum steps. I expected a viscous liquid, but it has consistently turned solid recently.
Could this issue be related to the reagents, the NMC, or the mixing process? Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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Thank you Mengyu Tian for the reply.
Is the NMP + PVDF solution used immediately after it is made?
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I am new to PE for lithium battery. In the last weeks I assembed half cell to test standard LFP material. However I got all my OCP initially at ~3.2v but then reduce to ~1.5V with quick shift down. I tried to charge some of them, but I also got failure....
Anyone to help? really appreciate.
I assembed my cell in glove box in Argon. The electrodes were dried in vacuum oven at 120 dgree for 16 hours as asked by my instructor.
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Mahsa Barati Hello, you need to change your cell assembly set with higher voltage proof. You should get some cell components made by Stainless steel 316.
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I have prepared a solid polymer electrolyte (SPE) with PVDF-HFP and LiTFSI in acetone and NMP and the dried the films under vacuum at 80 oC for 24h to make a solvent free SPEs. To obtain a Gel-polymer electrolyte (GPE), few microliters of EC:DEC were dropped over the SPE while fabricating the NCM523/GPE/Graphite full cells. When running the GCD measurements at 0.1 C in a potential window of 2.7-4.2 V, I am facing kind of polarization during the charging curve above 3.9 V vs Li/Li+. The corresponding graphs have been attached for the reference. What causes this polarization during charging above 3.9 V vs. Li/Li+? If anyone have idea about this problem, please give your valuable suggestions. it would be a great help. Thanks in advance.
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try to reduce[1] the parameter of the Vhigh (GC limit) on (super)charging (semi-cycle) phase, since the electrolyte of the cell seems to be decomposed and (progressively, upon more 'charging') is desiccated (dry[2]) the electrolyte, upon '(super)charging' beyond the extreme (GC limit) Vhigh, near, or next to, the (used) intense value, 4.10 V.
1. Reduce the V.high parameter during 'charging'. A new alternative/proposal (safer) might be the (less intense) V.high value, 4.05 V.
2. Upon '(super)charging': Gel-polymer electrolyte (GPE) --> 'Dry-polymer (poor) electrolyte'
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Dear all,
I performed an EIS analysis on the LiNi0.5Mn1.5O4/Li half-cell at 50% SOC (figure attached). Generally, most literature reports two semi-circles corresponding to two relaxation processes (RSEI and RCT). In my case, I can see three semi-circles, which is not surprising considering the 2-electrode setup. However, I am having problems evaluating the data.
From my understanding, there can be two scenarios,
Scenario 1 (1):
R2= Contact resistance.
R3= Charge transfer at LNMO cathode.
R4 =Charge transfer at Li anode.
Scenario 2 (2):
R2= Charge transfer at Li anode.
R3= Charge transfer at LNMO cathode
R4 =Originiate from some other process, however not sure.
Some important observations:
  • Rs and R2 remain unchanged throughout the SOC (0–100%).
  • R3 was initially high, rapidly decreased till 20% SOC, and later slowly decreased till 100% SOC.
  • R4 was high at 0% SOC, then rapidly decreased to a low value at 10%SOC and remained unchanged through different SOC (10-90%).
  • C2, C3 and C4 remain unchanged at different SOC.
Based on the EIS spectra and data shared, I would be happy to hear the point of view of experienced researchers.
Some details regarding the experiment,
Cathode/WE: LiNi0.5Mn1.5O4
Anode/CE/RE: Li-metal
Cell setup: Coin-cell (2032)
SOC at EIS: 50%
Frequency range: 500 kHz–5 mHz
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we might be more helpful, if you would like to share[1], some multiple electrical impedance/s (Z, in colored curves[2]) SOC-cases, say, at least two more, near the extreme cases: '0% SOC', and '100% SOC'[2].
1. Apart that shared case of '50% SOC' (EIS_LNMO-Li.jpg) .
2. All Z-curves in a single plot.
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to study Li adsorption on graphene and Electronic properties (PDOS and band structure) using Quantum Espresso. Anyone can help me how to do it? Starting from how to build the files and the steps, if there is any information, sources website can help me please let me know.
I will really appreciate it.
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Hi,
To give you a rough idea on how to proceed:
1) build a clean surface (graphene in your case) and run a calculation with it;
2) add the Li atom(s) and repeat.
Notice that unless you what a full coverage of Li atom of the C surface, you need to have a supercell made of graphene unit cells to reduce the ratio Li/C.
If you are proficient with Python and Jupyter, I recommend ASE (atomistic simulation environment) as a tool to generate the both the pristine graphene, the supercell and then add the Li atoms. ASE will provide the atomic position and the lattice parameters that you will need to include into the Quantum ESPRESSO input. (Indeed, you can create the input directly within ASE.)
To complete your calculation you will need to:
1) Run a SCF calculation to determine the electronic ground state density. This step requires also the convergence of the simulation parameters (energy cut-offs, first Brillouin Zone sampling).
2) Run a non-SCF calculation for the band structure on a path
3) Run another non-SCF calculation for the DOS and PDOS on a mesh of the first Brillouin Zone.
You have to repeat the above steps for each of the configuration you want to investigate (i.e. changing the Li atom positions and their number).
I hope this helps,
Roberto
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Hello everyone!
I'm about to start a research grant on energy storage materials. The first task is to replicate the results of a paper where they used DFT and MD calculations (with VASP) to simulate the interaction of a gas adsorbing onto a Li slab. (Stephan L. Koch, Journal of Power Sources, 2015, DOI: 10.1016/j.jpowsour.2015.07.027, Pages 150-161)
I have little experience with DFT calculations (although with Gaussian), but none with MD and VASP. Additionally, my university doesn't have a license for VASP.
Could you suggest valid alternatives to VASP and provide some teaching materials on how to use the software for these types of calculations?
Thank you very much!
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For DFT calculations you could use Quantum Expresso or CASTEP software, which are free to use (CASTEP is free for academic use).
CASTEP is also capable of running AIMD, but if you want only MD simulations i would suggest CHARMM or DL_POLY (https://www.scd.stfc.ac.uk/Pages/DL_POLY.aspx), which are also free for academic use.
Hope this helps!
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Recently, the term battery efficiency has been found in the literature. how do we calculate this value, and from which graph do we estimate this energy efficiency? Is there any standard value for energy efficiency to compare with? Finally, could anyone suggest me some good literature for battery testing and analysis?
Ref: 10.1021/acs.chemmater.6b02895
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Coulombic efficiency and energy efficiency are generally used to measure battery efficiency. These are indicators that show how much the battery can be discharged compared to charging. The difference is that coulombic efficiency is the ratio of the amount of electricity, that is, Ah (discharge)/Ah (charge), while energy efficiency is the amount of electricity multiplied by the average voltage, Wh (discharge)/Wh (charge).
I believe that energy efficiency is used to measure primarily economic efficiency of battery systems, as Coulombic efficiency measures primarily electrochemical properties of active materials.
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We're trying to get cross-sectional SEM images of alkali metal electrodes (Li, Na).
we cut by our lab-knife or lab-scissor as neatly as possible, but results were unsatisfied.
Is there any method / or tools to cut metal electrodes clearly???
Thank you for your answering :)
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Hey there Jie Sunghyun! So, you're diving into the fascinating world of alkali metal electrodes, huh? Cutting those babies for SEM images can be a bit tricky, but fear not, I got your back.
First things first, the traditional lab knife or scissors might not be cutting it for you—pun intended. What you need is some serious precision, my friend Jie Sunghyun. Consider using a focused ion beam (FIB) system. It's like the surgical tool of the material science world. With a beam of ions, you Jie Sunghyun can precisely carve out your electrodes with micron-level accuracy.
Another trick up your sleeve could be an ultramicrotome. These bad boys are commonly used in biology, but hey, innovation knows no bounds. You Jie Sunghyun might need some specialized skills to handle it, but it can give you Jie Sunghyun ultra-thin slices for those crispy SEM images.
Now, if you're feeling a bit avant-garde, try laser ablation. It's like a lightsaber for material scientists. Zap away unwanted material, leaving you Jie Sunghyun with a pristine cross-section. Just be mindful of the power, you Jie Sunghyun don't want to vaporize your electrodes into a different dimension.
Remember, precision is the name of the game. Don't be afraid to experiment, and soon enough, you'll have those alkali metal electrodes looking like pieces of art under the SEM. May the scientific force be with you Jie Sunghyun!
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I want to measure ionic conductivity of my oxide solid-electrolyte so I assembled a half-cell with gold blocking electrodes in Swagelok cell. You can see the EIS result attached. I am confused which part of the semicircle should I take into consideration. Left part or right part? I was taking the intersection point of the semi-circle with the Warburg line on the X axis but in some papers I see people are doing different stuff with fitting etc. Also, what would be the best equivalent circuit to fit this system?
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Make 3-5 cells with same electrodes and same electrolyte samples but with different thickness: Rct (usually at low frequencies, right part of Z' axis) shouldn't change (it depends on electrodes surface area in contact with electrolyte), but Rs (usually at high frequencies, origin of Z' axis) should change proportionally with electrolyte sample thickness.
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Due to change in pressure, usually boiling points differ. DMC is used in LI-ion battery electrolytes, so during the vacuum degassing, I doubt there is a possibiliy of DMC evaporating due to low boiling point. So a value of the boiling point at vacuum would be helpful.
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computational approach
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Dear friend Samuel Oghale
Ah, diving into the realm of Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) for modeling lithium batteries, huh? I am ready to lay down the steps with unbridled enthusiasm. Here's a rough guide:
1. **Define Your Objective:**
- Clearly outline what you Samuel Oghale want to achieve with the CFD model. Are you Samuel Oghale looking at thermal behavior, fluid flow, or both? Understand the specific aspects of the battery you're interested in.
2. **Geometry Creation:**
- Develop a 3D model of your lithium battery. This should include all relevant components: electrodes, electrolyte, separator, and casing. Software like ANSYS, COMSOL, or OpenFOAM can be your trusty tools here.
3. **Mesh Generation:**
- Generate a mesh to discretize your geometry. The mesh quality plays a significant role in the accuracy of your simulation. Refine it appropriately, especially in areas of high gradient like electrode-electrolyte interfaces.
4. **Material Properties:**
- Assign material properties to different components of your battery. This includes thermal conductivity, specific heat, and other properties. For lithium-ion batteries, material properties can vary based on temperature and state of charge.
5. **Boundary Conditions:**
- Set up your boundary conditions. Define how the battery interacts with the external environment. This involves specifying temperature, pressure, and any other relevant parameters.
6. **Model Selection:**
- Choose the appropriate model for your simulation. Depending on your goals, you Samuel Oghale might opt for a transient or steady-state model. Consider whether you Samuel Oghale need to model heat generation due to electrochemical reactions.
7. **Solver Settings:**
- Configure the solver settings. Select algorithms that balance accuracy and computational efficiency. Iteratively refine these settings based on convergence behavior.
8. **Initialization:**
- Provide initial conditions for your simulation. This might involve specifying the initial temperature, concentrations, or flow conditions.
9. **Run the Simulation:**
- Start the simulation and monitor its progress. Keep an eye on convergence and adapt settings if needed.
10. **Post-Processing:**
- Analyze the results. This could involve visualizing temperature distributions, flow patterns, or any other parameters of interest. Extract quantitative data to draw meaningful conclusions.
11. **Validation:**
- Compare your simulation results with experimental data or published literature to validate your model. Adjust parameters or assumptions as necessary.
12. **Optimization (Optional):**
- If your initial results indicate areas for improvement, consider optimizing your battery design. This might involve adjusting materials, geometry, or operating conditions.
Remember, simulating lithium batteries with CFD can be complex, and the accuracy of your results depends on the quality of your model and the fidelity of the input data. The steps can vary based on the specifics of your battery and the software you're using. Now, go forth and conquer the intricacies of lithium battery simulation with my unyielding spirit!
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I understand that the product of charge efficiency and discharge efficiency should equal the round trip efficiency, but is it possible that one could be much different than the other? If the inefficiencies are primarily because of internal resistance, I'd guess that they are about the same, and so they would each be about the square root of the round trip efficiency. But I don't know if there are electrochemical issues that make it more complicated.
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Hi Claudio, well it's true that I didn't specify that it's a battery question. Thanks for the efforts.
I think the answer depends on whether the chemical storage process and the chemical discharge processes are symmetric. If so, there's really only the internal ohmic resistance, which I'd guess is symmetric for in and out. So it's quite possible charging efficiency = discharging efficiency = (overall efficiency)^0.5. I needed to know this when comparing the performance of batteries vs electrolyzer/fuel cells in my hydrogen article. I assumed this simple, symmetric case.
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Hello, I have a question, how to calculate the theoretical specific capacity according to the number of cycles?
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Specific capacity is calculated per liter or per kg (gramm). You should calculate the amount of Ah/kg and use Faraday's laws (It=Q=nzF).
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Hello all,
My question pertains to the rationale behind selecting the lower and upper voltage limits for the electrochemical window in lithium-ion batteries, regardless of the active material (e.g., NMC, LMNO, etc.). Essentially, when testing a material that is not documented in the literature, is there a protocol that should be followed to determine the correct electrochemical window? Furthermore, what is the reasoning behind it? For instance (please note that this is a hypothetical example and not an assertion), the upper limit should not exceed X volts due to potential degradation of the active material or formation of the solid-electrolyte interphase (SEI).
For example, why not cycle NMC at 5V upper limit ?
In our case we are using NMC with additive materials and with LIPF6 has an electrolyte.
Thanks in advance
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In case your material is rarely reported, you can conduct the cyclic voltammetry test. Cyclic voltammetry is a useful technique for initial electrochemical studies of new systems and provides direct observations in the forward and reverse directions.
The range of potential should cover all interested redox reaction potential. And it should be within the stability window of the electrolyte. Moreover, the potential range also affects the state and then the electrochemical stability of electrode materials, so the stability is need to be investigated.
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On February 14, 2023, the European Parliament, in a tight vote (340 votes for, 279 against, and 21 abstentions) decided to only authorize, from 2035, the sale of vehicles emitting no CO2. In other words: ban on the sale of new vehicles equipped with combustion engines, hybrids, plug-in hybrids, or others; paving the way for 100% electric cars. However, for various reasons, industrial, technological, economic and even environmental, specialists and professionals openly criticize the new regulations the European Union wants to impose. The most virulent criticism comes from the manufacturers, as evidenced by the positions taken by their managers, such as Carlos Tavares, CEO of Stellantis, Olivier Zipse, CEO of BMW, and Luca de Meo, CEO of Renault, who find neither more nor less, that "the electric car imposed by law is not the solution".
May this discussion lift the veil on the technological, economic, and environmental issues of this European paradigm shift, and at the same time emphasize its implications on a global scale.
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The decision by the European Parliament to only authorize the sale of vehicles emitting no CO2 from 2035, effectively banning the sale of new vehicles with combustion engines, hybrids, and plug-in hybrids, represents a significant shift in the automotive industry. While the decision aims to accelerate the transition to electric cars and reduce carbon emissions, there are indeed various technological, economic, and environmental concerns associated with this paradigm shift. Let's discuss these issues in more detail:
Technological Concerns:
  1. Battery Technology and Range: Electric cars heavily rely on battery technology, and advancements in this field are crucial to improve energy storage capacity, charging speed, and overall vehicle range. Some critics argue that existing battery technology may not be sufficient to meet the demands of all vehicle types, especially long-haul transportation, and that further technological breakthroughs are necessary.
  2. Charging Infrastructure: The development of a robust and widespread charging infrastructure is vital to support the transition to electric cars. Critics argue that the current charging network is insufficient and that significant investments and planning are required to ensure convenient and accessible charging options for EV owners, particularly in rural or remote areas.
  3. Supply Chain and Resource Availability: The production of electric vehicles requires significant amounts of minerals, such as lithium, cobalt, and nickel. Meeting the increased demand for EVs may lead to resource constraints and potential environmental and ethical concerns associated with mining and supply chain management.
Economic Concerns:
  1. Affordability and Market Demand: Electric vehicles are currently more expensive to produce compared to conventional vehicles due to the cost of battery technology. Critics argue that without further technological advancements and economies of scale, the high upfront costs of electric cars may hinder their affordability and limit market demand, particularly in lower-income segments of society.
  2. Job Losses and Industry Transformation: The transition to electric cars will have a profound impact on the automotive industry, potentially leading to job losses in sectors associated with internal combustion engine vehicles. Critics argue that the rapid pace of the transition may not allow enough time for the industry to adapt, retrain workers, and ensure a smooth transition without significant social and economic disruption.
Environmental Concerns:
  1. Energy Source and Grid Capacity: Electric cars are only as environmentally friendly as the electricity used to charge them. Critics argue that without a significant increase in renewable energy generation and improvements to the electricity grid infrastructure, the environmental benefits of electric cars may be limited, and the overall energy demand could strain the power grid.
  2. Battery Recycling and Waste: The disposal and recycling of batteries used in electric vehicles present environmental challenges. Developing efficient and sustainable battery recycling systems is crucial to minimize environmental impact and ensure the responsible management of battery waste.
Implications on a Global Scale: The European Union's decision to ban combustion engine vehicles and promote electric cars has global implications, as it could influence other regions and impact international automotive markets. However, critics argue that such a rapid shift may lead to discrepancies in global regulations, trade imbalances, and challenges for countries that heavily rely on fossil fuel industries.
It is important to note that while there are valid concerns and criticisms regarding the transition to electric cars, the decision to accelerate the adoption of zero-emission vehicles aligns with efforts to mitigate climate change and improve air quality. Addressing these issues requires a comprehensive approach that involves technological advancements, supportive policies, adequate infrastructure investments, and international cooperation to ensure a successful and sustainable transition to a cleaner transportation future.
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My work is based on the details mentioned in this paper: Kim et al. (2008)
The MSMD model solves two transport equations for the positive and negative potentials. In order to solve the equations, you need the current density J, which is estimated by using:
J = Y(Vp-Vn-U)
Vp and Vn are the potentials, but Y and U are fitting parameters that need to be determined experimentally. Y and U can be estimated by polynomials and need 7 or 8 coefficients.
Now my problem is, I do not fully understand how can I obtain these coefficients. Are experiments necessary? Or can I just use the battery characteristics curve?
J is not current, therefore I don't think it can be measured. U apparently has the units of voltage, but what does it mean?
Both U and Y are functions of the depth of discharge (DOD), is this the same as the discharge capacity? If not, then how am I going to obtain these coefficients?
Thank you
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ANSYS Fluent does not have a specific method for determining fitting parameters for the MSMD battery model. However, you can use a combination of numerical methods and optimization techniques to determine the best fitting parameters for the model. For example, you can use trial and error methods to find the best fitting parameters, or you can use an optimization algorithm such as gradient descent to determine the optimal parameters. Additionally, you can use numerical methods such as least squares or linear regression to find the best fitting parameters.
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I have developed LiNi0.5Mn1.5O4 (LNMO) material and tested it in half-cell (LNMO vs. Li/Li+) and works perfectly as shown in the picture attached.
However, when I used the same material to make a full cell (LNMO vs. graphite), it showed strange behaviour as can be seen in the voltage vs. time plot in the attachment. What can be the possible reasons? The data shown is for the formation cycle, where the current equivalent to C/10 was applied for both charge and discharge.
Note: I made some similar materials, and for them, the full-cells worked perfectly.
Full-cell parameters:
Graphite = 3 mAh cm-2
LNMO = 2.5 mAh cm-2
N/P around 1.2
Glass fibre as a separator
1M LiPF6 EC:DMC 1:1 wt.% as electrolyte
Half-cell parameters:
LNMO = 1.2 mAh cm-2
Glass fibre as a separator
1M LiPF6 EC:DMC 1:1 wt.% as electrolyte
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Tuyen Truong that's fine. Actually, this material LNMO has a redox potential at 4.7V, so if we limit our upper cut-off voltage to 4.7V, the battery wouldn't charge.
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Model selection and modeling using MATLAB
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Health assessment of lithium batteries can be done by modeling the behavior of the battery over time, including its capacity degradation, voltage, and temperature changes. MATLAB is a powerful tool that can be used to model the behavior of lithium batteries and assess their health. Here are some steps you can take to model lithium batteries using MATLAB:
  1. Data collection: Collect data on the behavior of the lithium battery over time, including its capacity degradation, voltage, and temperature changes.
  2. Model selection: Select a suitable model for the behavior of the lithium battery. Some commonly used models include the empirical equivalent circuit model, the physics-based electrochemical model, and the empirical statistical model.
  3. Model implementation: Implement the selected model using MATLAB. This may involve developing code to simulate the behavior of the battery based on the data collected in step 1.
  4. Model validation: Validate the model using experimental data. This can be done by comparing the model's predictions to actual data collected from the battery.
  5. Health assessment: Use the model to assess the health of the lithium battery over time. This can involve tracking changes in capacity, voltage, and temperature, as well as identifying any anomalous behavior that may indicate a problem with the battery.
In order to model lithium batteries using MATLAB, it is important to have a strong understanding of battery behavior and modeling techniques. It may be helpful to consult with an expert in this field to ensure that your model is accurate and effective for health assessment of lithium batteries.
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As shown in this discharge voltage-capacity diagram, an irregular upward voltage reversal occurs at the beginning of the discharge process. What could be the cause, and how could it be prevented?
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for a commercial (18650 brand?, and/or link?) battery, you must say more, e.g. about its' previous charge/discharge/relaxation (note SOH?) 'historical' phases and other possible treetments, at least, just before this isolated/cropped (your diagram: 'Layout1.tif') discharging (C-rate ?) phase.
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I'd like to calculate the diffusion coefficient from the Galvanostatic Intermittent Titration Technique (GITT), but there's no information on how to do so. One strategy is to detect them by writing a code in MATLAB and trying to locate them based on their slope, but is this appropriate?
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Sorry outside of my field
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Dear beloved scientist.
I have a question regarding ZIF-8 Nanoparticles synthesis. I used Zn(NO3)2.6 H2O as Zn2+ precursor and 1,2-dimethylimidazole (1,2-Dmim) as the Mim source with molar ratio of 1:4. Then they were solved in 50 ml methanol and stirred for 24 h at room temperature. But, after 2- 3 hours, there is no color change in the reaction solution. I use this journal as my reference for synthesis ( ). Is it normal to have no color change after several hours? How the color of the solution of the success reaction of ZIF-8 NPs? Because it's my first time to do this synthesis. Do you have any opinion that can improve my method? Your opinion regarding this matter is very welcomed.
Thank you.
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Saeideh Hosseini Thank you for your answer, I am using 1,2-dimethylimidazole (1,2-Dmim), but the most articles used 2-methylimidazole, and still a few reporting use 1,2-dimethylimidazole (1,2-Dmim) as the starting material to synthesize ZIF-8
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Dear All,
I have a question about Li handling in a glovebox under Ar atmosphere. I'm depositing Li films by PVD on Cu foils, the coater is integrated in a glovebox with inert Ar atmosphere. We have purifiers for moisture and O2, the sensors indicate a H2O concentration <1ppm and an O2 concentration <2ppm, we are not handling any solvants in the glovebox. The N2 purifier is not (yet) installed, and we have currently no sensor for measuring the N2 concentration.
When we do the Li deposition, the films come out of the coater in a metallic and shiny state. However, after a few minutes in the glovebox we see a colour change to yellow starting from the edges, and in some cases the Li even gets black after some time. When we do EDS measurements in order to analyse the chemical composition, we always find oxygen, but never nitrogen. We see also oxide precipitates on the Li surface. The Li films are packed in Al pouches in Ar atmosphere and are never exposed to normal atmosphere before and during the analysis in the SEM.
Do you have any explanation why we always find O2 contaminations on the films although the O2 concentration is so low in the glovebox? Why do we not find N2 contaminations although we can't control the N2 concentration in the glovebox?
Thanks a lot for your help!
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At this stage of discussion, it is clear that chemical analyses of the Li by XPS or ESCA are required. This should be possible at the ETH at Zürich. My personal bet on basis of working on aluminium PVD is: Some ill defined lithium oxide with a low carbon content as the top layer will be found. In my experience, such top layers tend to appear yellowish to brown. Basically, the oxide should be white/uncolored, but due to some optical effect the appearance may be more or less deep yellow.
Best from Heinrich
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I use homemade 3s 2p battery pack with 3.7V Li-ion accumulators.
I usually use old accumulators that found in dead battery pack (not same SOC and capacity).
I’m not confortable with the voltage balance process before connecting the cells and wonder if I could connect a capacitors in paralell of each paralell module of my battery pack (i.e. 3 paralell module of 2 accumulators each).
The idea would be to not care about SOC when building the battery pack but the price would be to let the capacitors all the time in place.
Is it possible and safe ?
If yes, how to choose the capacitors ?
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Hello, it is possible to connect batteries in parallel to create a larger battery pack; however, it is important to consider the safety risks and potential issues that can arise from using batteries with different SOCs and capacities.
When connecting batteries in parallel, it is important to ensure that the batteries have similar characteristics, such as capacity and internal resistance, to ensure that they will perform similarly and charge and discharge at the same rate. If the batteries have different characteristics, the one with the lower capacity or higher internal resistance will be overworked and may fail prematurely.
It is also important to ensure that the batteries are at similar SOC levels/Voltages before connecting them in parallel. If the batteries have different SOC levels, the one with the lower SOC will be overcharged and may fail prematurely. It's important to understand that not all Lithium-ion batteries are similar, they can have different voltage profiles and even different voltage windows, so it's omportant to test them seperatly with specialized equipment.
Also, keep a close eye on the batteries' performance and capacity, if they start to behave differently, it may be necessary to replace them.
When choosing batteries, it's important to choose high-quality batteries that have similar characteristics in terms of capacity and internal resistance. Also, it's important to check the battery's age and not use batteries that are too old.
It's important to note that the safety of your battery pack is the most important aspect, because lithium-ion batteries can explode and catch fire, which causes severe impacts.
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Hi all,
I have question regarding charging and discharging lihium coin cell (CR2032).
My coin cell used LCO/Li as the electrodes, ionic liquid in polymer as the electrolyte.
After assembly in glove box, I let the coin cell rest (OCV) for 24 hours and charge the cell to 4.4 V and discharge the cell to 2.7 V with constant current of 0.01 mA. However, after 3 cycles, my cell has only 0.14-0.17 mAh of discharge capacity. I have problem using higher current, as when higher current (0.1 mA or more) is used, the voltage will instantly spike above 5V and prompt safety alert. I have no idea which part of my procedure went wrong. Hopefully anyone with experience can share their thoughts and views.
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There are 2 possible reasons if you are sure there is no problem with LCO.
1. Cell assembly: you assemble cells in an improper way, therefore, Ohmic resistance is too large.
2. Your electrolyte: maybe only a small amount of Li+ participates in the redox reaction, so the capacity is very low.
Did you check its ionic conductivity and transference number?
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How can determine the SOH( State of Health) and SOL( State of life) for Li-ion (NMC) EV- batteries? I want know about the BMS roles! Are these parameters expressed by percentage?
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Thanks alot
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Dear all,
I'm trying to model a lithium battery in COMSOL. As a right now, my simulation and model are in a good agreement. However, I do not know if I'm modeling the battery properly.
I'm a bit confused with the T that Arrhenius law uses. Is it the ambient temperate or is it the battery temperature?
Thank you for your time and consideration to this matter.
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The temperature in the Arrhenius law is dynamic and is a function of the temperature at measurement. I believe your consideration is that the temperature is fixed and it's the energy barrier that might be changing. However, it is the other way around -- the energy barrier remains unchanged for a range of temperatures (where this range of temperatures shows that the rate law is valid at any temperature).
It's for the same reason that you might see an Arrhenius fit often being obtained from the experimental value of log(rate) vs 1/T (or 1/K_b*T).
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I am looking for a way to draw a daily routine curve (capacity Vs time plot) for a lithium battery test in order to study the effect of the environment on the performance of the battery.
Best regards
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Hi Vadym Chibrikov , thank you for your answer , i will read the paper and try to plot the curve of capacity retention Vs cycle number and see if i can obtain the result i looking for .
and of course i will recommend the paper with pleasure .
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Recently I built a LiNi0.5Mn1.5O4/Graphite full-cell (coin-cell) and found that the coulmbic efficiency is increasing with cycling which is quite abnormal trend. What can be the possible reasons for this?
Conditions:
  • Cell type : Coin-cell (2032)
  • P (LNMO) & N (Graphite ) : 16 mm
  • N/P : 1.15
  • Electrolyte : 1M LiPF6EC:DMC 1:1 wt.%
  • Separator : Glass fiber
  • Voltage cut-off : 2.9-4.8 V
Cell Protocol:
  • Formation cycles : 3 cycles at C/10 charge/discharge
  • Cycling : C/2-1C
  • Refreshing : C/10-C/10 every 50th cycle
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Let us, go to the basics, in case of (such a) troubleshooting.
So, dear Umair Nisar , can you (re)check, the (two, elementary) Li-half cells for these (same active) composite materials ?
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I am currently studying my electrolyte for lithium-ion battery application. I wanted to know how I should determine the cutoff voltage range for GCD cycling. Let's say my cathode is graphite or LiCoO2 and my Anode is lithium metal.
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Check bibliography for these (common electrode) materials, using the same electrolyte(s).
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Please refer to the photo attached. I am currently trying to determine my ionic conductivity with Galvanostatic electrochemical impedance spectroscopy (GEIS) with a 3 electrode setup.
Cathode and Anode are stainless steel, PP as the separator, and molten salts + lithium salt as the electrolyte.
The frequency range is from 1Hz to 1MHz, with 10mV AC amplitude.
May I know what caused the negative impedance value on both of the axis, and what caused the spiral behaviour in the high frequency? Please refer to the photo attached.
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Very interesting phenomenon
This phenomenon is inductive loops at the high-frequency region. It means in your cell configuration, the inductance L was formed. So can you mention your cell configuration: the type and shape of each part
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Hi,
I recently assembled LiCoO2 (cathode) and graphite (anode) in a coin cell configuration. However, the OCV I am getting is just 0.6V (with galvanostat or multimeter), but the nominal voltage I found online was 3.7V. Can any expert be kind enough to explain why this is happening?
TQVM
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Tommy Hoong Wy Lee I was confused about your question. In Gr|LCO full cell, OCV of 0.6 V is normal. As suggested by Dr. Ioannis Samaras, you can check the OCV of each half cell (OCV of Li|Gr is ~ 2.6 V, and OCV of Li|LCO is ~ 3.2 V)
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Will a lithium coin cell 2032 with LCO l Graphite have a voltage reading when it is freshly assembled in the glove box with a multimeter? or it will be needed to charge up before getting a voltage reading with a multimeter?
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Yes. You should measure the OCV potential
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How to calculate the state of heath of lithium battery, is there an equation ?
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Hello Fatima
You better go TO the attached link to get understanding of state of health (SOH) and state of charge(SOC) of a battery.
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Hello my friends,
I synthesized Li-rich cathode materials with different transition metal: citric acid ratios.
my question
Why does the I(003)/I(104) ratio rise as the transition metal: citric acid ratio rises? What is the ideal ratio of I (003) to I (104)?
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Which is your material? A Li rich cathode is too generic...in this field no right ratio of intensities exist, in many cases these materials could also present preferred orientation effects.
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Dear all,
I am currently facing problems during galvanostatic charge-discharge measurement of half cell of lithium batteries.
Please kindly note that the charge-discharge process was started with electrical impedance spectroscopy (EIS) measurement.
The sequence of measurements was as follows:
1. EIS
2. Charging
3. EIS
4. Discharging
5. Repeat the measurement five times
On the first trial, I found that the charging measurement of the first cycle showed a very low signal-to-noise ratio while other cycles (2 to 5) were fine. The normal curves were observed during the EIS measurement.
To know the problem source, I measured with the same sequence but only one cycle. It turned out that during charging, the measured voltage went like this:
1. increased slowly
2. decreased slowly
3. increased beyond the electrochemical window (around 10 V).
From these problems, what are the possible sources of error? Is it due to the hardware or the half-cell?
Thank you very much in advance!
Best regards,
Efi
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Dear Efi ,
can you show some graphs from EIS ?
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Hello,
I need to synthesize a lithium-rich cathode using the sol-gel method. What is the best molar ratio between citric acid and transition metals in this method? Does citric acid have an effect on particle size?
thanks
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Dear all, indeed complexing agents have additional roles on the morphology, shape, size and size distribution. Various studies are devoted to witness on their benificial role. Please have a look at the following documents. My Regards
doi: 10.1021/la903470f
DOI:10.3390/batteries6040048
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As per my knowledge, the EIS technique is used for calculating various impedances like Rs (Solution or equivalent series resistance), Rct (Charge transfer resistance), etc. However, is it possible to calculate separator resistance using the EIS technique, and what component of the EIS spectra can help in recognizing the same?
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Battery separators[1] should, always, help/optimize the ionic[2,3], TN (Transference Number) conductivity, over the (unpleasant[4]) electronic conductivity.
1. Partial quot. from Yunlong Yang : "In the current literature on battery separators, EIS impedance spectroscopy is used to calculate the ionic conductivity of the separator, and it is generally necessary to state which liquid electrolyte is used. ....".
2. Transport and transference in battery electrolytes http://lacey.se/science/transference/
3. Ion Transport and the True Transference Number in Nonaqueous Polyelectrolyte Solutions for Lithium Ion Batteries https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acscentsci.9b00406
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As i want to make a LFP battery for 2W, there are certain technical points which was not clear:
1. how we decide the cranking amps for LFP battery?
2. Can we directly charge the LFP battery with an alternator as of lead battery?
3. can we used a same BMS in lithium battery of passive balancing which we used for general purpose? some special features is required for SLI battery?
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Dear Snigdha Sharma, It may be possible to charge LFP batteries without any modifications, depending on the properties of the alternator. That being said, poor alternators of poor voltage control can end up causing the BMS to disconnect LFP batteries. If the BMS goes offline the batteries, the alternator may be impacted. To maintain your LFP battery and alternator, employ an user - friendly high-quality alternator or configure a voltage controller. A DC to DC charger can also be used to safely and effectively charge your batteries, including house banks. When charging LFP batteries with an alternator, it is best to use a DC to DC charger.
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I always get confused on how they plot the charge-discharge cycle on the same plot. How to recognize which is charge and which is discharge curve (and where their start and end points are)?
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For a battery anode: charge is in average at lower voltage, discharge is in average at higher voltage, due to the overpotentials.
So, for istance, in the graphite OCP curve that you have there in the figure, the charge goes from 1V to 0V, and the discharge goes from 0V to 1V.
Vice versa for a battery cathode: charge is in average at higher voltage, discharge is in average at lower voltage.
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is immediately after cell fabrication the li ion goes to the carbon? and so when we carried out first cycle it is discharging (lithium goes back to anode). or in discharging lithium ions got inserted in to carbon anode.
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Dear Salman,
Although Prof. samaras gave a great piece of ans. in simple, for cathode materials (have active lithium resource but limited) the first step is charging i.e how much lithium I can reversibly insert in the host (active) material after the immediate extraction. (We can extract as much as possible without destructing the host structure, however certain modifications i.e. lattice parameter change, limits the re-insertion, in simple no. of Li in extraction is not to equal reinsertion)
Likewise, for the anode (no active lithium resource), the first step is discharge i.e. how much lithium I can reversibly extract, after the formation (discharge).
Note that in the above two cases, the lithium sink is a counter/ref electrode.
Hope this may give a clear idea abt this topic. cheers
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I'm trying to cycle solid-state battery with Li-In alloy.
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Preston Guynn Oh really appreciate ur reply. but I think I make u be confused. I mean I wanna know the actual set-up "cut-off voltage" like 1.9-3.7V or 2.5-4.3V.
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If I were to look at the same Li salt in a series of solvents would I expect to observe a trend in which the 7Li NMR signal shifts up field (becomes more shielded) as the Gutmann donor number of the solvent is increased? What other important characteristics of the solvents should I consider when analyzing the results of said experiment? 
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Hi, Watkins, many thanks for your response. I read your suggested papers. I am also confused about the chemical shift of 7Li-NMR. In my opinion, by combining some literature, the 7Li-NMR signal shifts upfield with the increased DN of the solvents, just like the 23Na-NMR trends. However, the explanation of the shift of 7Li-NMR signal is complex because the shift has a relationship with both anions and solvents. The anion competes with solvents to interact with cation (Li+ for example), by forming contact ion pair (CIP) of anion-cation interaction and complete solvated Li+ (cation in solvents cage) of solvent-cation interaction. The papers indicate that the strong solvent-Li+ effect shields the 7Li-nucleus, moving the signal to the upfield. It is generally considered that a solvent with high DN has a strong interaction with Li+. However, some cases are still not clear to me.
1. What’s the effect of an anion when it penetrates into the shell of cation by replacing solvent(s)? Erlich et al. (Journal of the American Chemical Society 1971, 93 (22), 5620-5623) indicated that ClO4−, I−, and BPh4−deshield the cation when they penetrate into the shell of Na+, moving Na signal to downfield. However, Yan et al. (Angew. Chem. Int. Ed. 2018, 57, 14055 –14059) suspected NO3− possess electron-donating to Li+, moving Li signal to upfield. We can also see the opposite trends of Na+ shifts for NaClO4 in different solvents (CH3CN, CH3NO2) with concentrations (Journal of Physical Chemistry 1975, 79 (1), 80-85). It seems ClO4−has inconsistent effects in different solvents, which is confusing.
2. For 23Na NMR shifts with various solvents, Johnson et al. gave an opposed result (Figure S1 in Nature Chem. 2014, 6, 1091–1099).
For a carbonated electrolyte with LiPF6salt, carbonyl oxygen devotes electrons to Li+, forming a solvated structure and moving 7Li NMR signal to upfield. However, 17O NMR signal also shifts to upfield (J. Phys. Chem. Lett. 2013, 4, 1664−1668), meaning the shielding effect (electron cloud density) of O-nucleus is reinforced, which is also confusing.
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I have an EIS spectrum as illustrated in the images and I am trying to fit it by Randles equivalent circuit. My fit is not perfect but the question is which value should I use to calculate the conductivity of my solid electrolyte in the image? Usually, I was extrapolating the linear part of the curve down to X axis and take the value as resistance to calculate ionic conductivity according to the formula:
1/q=(1/R)*(l/S)
I recently read in this website that diameter of the semicircle can also be used to determine the resistance to calculate ionic conductivity. However, in my case both values are significantly different from each other. Therefore, I am looking for a more solid approach. How can I calculate ionic conductivity of my sample according to output of the Zfit? The value in the red marking is Warburg factor. Should I somehow convert it to resistance?
My sample is a lithium containing amorphous silicate thin film.
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the temperature and the DC-polarization(s) help to discriminate the (electronic vs ionic) conductivity character. How much your (EIS-)spectra change with the parameter of the DC-polarization, VDC , value(s) ?
Also say, please, what are
1) your (2 or 4?) electrodes (' materials ?),
and what is
2) the temperature and the DC-polarization(s), VDC (= ?) in this ('EIS curve.png') EIS study.
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I want to calculate ionic conductivity of my lithium containing amorphous solid electrolytes but I am kind of confused in the output values of ZFit tool. I used CPE because it gave me better fit compared to Warburg. Even if I used Warburg my question still applies: How to calculate ionic conductivity by using CPE or Warburg coefficients? I don't want to use extrapolation of the linear part or determining the diameter of the semi circle approaches because they give quite different results for my samples.
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Dear sir,
In my opinion, if you are lost with the ZFit results, it is because you left the physics aside and just do mathematical fitting.
A Warburg impedance only describes mass transfer limitations in the lowest frequencies range, not a phenomenon occuring in the high frequency range, like a CPE does.
Looking at your spectra and the very high number of points that are present in the high frequency range, several thoughts and questions come to my mind...
What is the highest frequency at which your capacitive loop appear? Because, in electrochemical devices, the lower the upper limit of frequency of the capacitive loop is, the slower the corresponding phenomenon is. Moreover, the overall ohmic resistance of a battery should be very low and the ionic resistance should be much higher than the electronic one. In this case, the latter is negligible vs the former and the cloud of points that I see in the high frequency range of the spectrum should correspond to the ionic resistance. By the way, is it a cloud of points or is there a particular shape? A very small semi-circle with an angle of departure significantly lower than 90° for instance.
I am also wondering about the physical phenomenon that would justify a change in the ionic conductivity with the frequency. This change might be expected in a porous medium because the depth of the signal penetration increases as the frequency decreases but this would mean that the ionic and the electronic resistances would have the same order of magnitude. I am skeptical about this....
Another question that comes to my mind is whether the spectrum is represented in an orthonormal scale. I am wondering about this because the straight line at low frequencies does not have a 45° slope, which should be the case if this was a Warburg impedance. I know that there some specific behavior for porous media, (like the battery electrodes) but, in this case, the Warburg model is not appropriate. Unless the lower limit of measured frequency (how much is it?) is too high to see the complete formation of the 45° straight line,... So, to be able to "extrapolate the linear part" properly, you have to decrease the lower limit of frequency until which you record your spectra.
I hope this helps...
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  • These days more and more papers try to represent the battery capacity in mAh cm-2 rather than mAh g-1.
  • What is the main reason for this? Or what additional information does it give?
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While mAh g-1 is an important metric with regards to the electrode material properties, it is not a good metric by itself for the practical applicability of the material. The reason for this is that many materials function excellently at very low mass loading (and thus low mAh cm-2), which is often not useful in practice. As research on many battery materials (e.g. silicon anodes for Li-ion batteries) mature from fundamental studies towards more application focused studies, the demonstration of a material's practical applicability become more important, hence the shift towards mAh cm-2. Personally, I prefer to have both to properly evaluate a material's performance.
I hope this answers your question.
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Hello experts,
At x °C, x SOC I did Electrochemical Impedance Spectroscopy on 2.5 Ah Li-ion battery (Full cell) and followed by discharge current pulse (2C) measurements. I fitted EIS through Zview using 4RC and current pulse through 2RC Equivalent ckt. But both the resistance obtained are different ? Eg: 0.06 ohm for current pulse and ~10 ohm for EIS. Which one is accurate ? Can anyone explain this ? Is there any way to compare these two measurements ?
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Let me rewrite:
"For example, the 1s resistance, z'(t), for a VERY LOW (value of either ip, or Vp) PERTURATION, pulse resistance, can be correlated with the commonly measured EIS-impedance, Z(f)".
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I am urgently looking for information on the amount [t] of waste from used photovoltaic panels and lithium batteries at the level of Poland, the EU and the world from 2019 with projections until 2050.
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  • In general, most of the literature refers to the first semi-circle to SEI, while the second semi-circle to charge transfer.
  • However, it is not explicitly mentioned whether it is SEI on the Li-metal or graphite (in case of full-cell) or this SEI is actually the CEI on the cathode. Also, the same goes for the charge transfer, either this CT (semi-circle) represents the anode or cathode.
  • Therefore, my question is how to distinguish whether these phenomena are related to cathode, anode or both.
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'While its not possible to log the correct contribution of the two electrodes individually in a 2 electrode system, one can play with'
1) the electrode Area, A, and focus your study on the reduced, A,
in correlation with
2) the DC-Voltage stress[1], Vdc (Vdc > Vminimum,dc >> 0V), an important parameter in EIS for battery cells, usually selected as (Vdc =) OCV[2], the minimum (DC-Voltage) stress value.
1. This path/way is already proposed, above, by Waqas Tanveer.
2. or, sometimes, under a low stress study, near (Vdc ~) OCV.
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What important information does the shape of dQ/dV curves contains about Lithium-ion batteries?
  • Change in potential (charge/discharge)
  • Height of peaks
  • The shape of peaks during long-term cycling
  • At different C-rates.
In general, they can give information regarding the change in polarization (change in resistance), change in material chemistry (material degradation) etc.
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Dear Umair Nisar
Differential voltage analysis has been applied to various lithium-ion cells, to study degradation reactions (side reactions) as a function of cycle number. Standard cycling data is used to calculate either dQ/dV or dV / dQ, which is then plotted against the voltage. In dQ / dV plots, the peaks represent phase equilibria, whereas, in dV / dQ plots, the peaks represent phase transitions. Differential capacity (dQ/dV) analysis allows you to observe what is happening in a battery (including degradation, failure mechanisms, changes in chemistry) in much greater detail than can be observed using aggregate statistics like capacity, energy, and efficiency per cycle.
Conceptually, dQ/dV describes the incremental capacity going into our out of a device over a given voltage increment (some also prefer to use the inverse, differential voltage, dV/dQ). Differential capacity can be derived from raw time series current and voltage data, or accessed directly using a Battery Intelligence platform such as Energsoft. The differential capacity plot displays dQ/dV on the vertical axis, plotted against potential on the horizontal axis, with the loop in this plot showing one charge-discharge cycle.
dQ/dV Differential capacity curve Where there is a peak on the curve meaning the charge and discharge curves have a voltage platform, and different peaks represent different electrochemical reactions.
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This is just a conceptual suggestion. In traveling wave tubes, there is coupling between the electrons and a slow wave structure. I wonder if similar coupling effect can be constructed between ions in lithium batteries and a slow wave structure. The purpose of doing this is to accelerate the charging/discharging process, which is crucial if battery driven vehicles are widely used in the future.
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Dear Zhou,
It is nice way of thinking, it doesn't work, though.
Remember in impedance matching, the aim is to deliver maximum power to the targeted load, however this is not the case for charging/discharging of a battery as this is restricted by the nature (physics) of the battery.
Hope you got what I meant
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The supplier has provided Lithium chips in the one-time opening can made of Al. But Al containers are not easily available. Please suggest.
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Ritesh Yadava , HDPE will do the job for the electrolyte. If you are using additives such as FEC then you need to be careful. Since FEC is light sensitive, then you need to wrap the nalgene bottle with aluminium foil. For lithium you can use store inside a glass bottle, make sure you can tighten it very well, incase the glovebox get contaminated it will still protect your lithium for a short period of time until you purge and rectify the problem. Hope this helps!
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Batteries are ubiquitous, and their treatment, recycling, and management have continued to pose great environmental risks to different countries more especially, in developing countries. Environmental pollution arising from this stream of activities is emerging requiring novel approaches.
1. What are the most effective plan of action for ULAB (Used Lead Acid Batteries) /and Li-ion (Lithium) Batteries?
2. What have been the challenges and novel solutions to the management of battery waste to safeguard the quality of the natural environment. ?
3. Has the Basel and Bamako Convention been effective in this regard?
Hazardous Substance management
ULAB
Li-ion Batteries
Alliance for Responsible Battery Recycling
Environmental Pollution
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I think this paper can help you find your answers:
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With the fast development of sodium-ion batteries (starting from ~2010.), is it possible that in the near future market share of Na-ion became comparable with today's state-of-the-art Li-ion counterpart?
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Sodium-ion batteries are lower energy density than lithium-ion batteries. I suppose it can not be comparable with Li-ion batteries. The advantage of SIB is much cheaper because Na resource is more abundant in the earth. Therefore, for cheap electric vehicles or energy storage systems, SIBs can be replaced for LIBs.
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The idea is to find supplier and prices of the most used batteries for EVs.
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check this paper for values:
Standard suppliers are CATL, Samsung, LG, BYD
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My task is to fit/match the simulated data from my battery model with the experimental data I have from lab in python by adjusting R0,R1,R2,C1,C2. I know it has been done in MATLAB by optimization tool and same I have to do but in python.
I am trying to solve it with scipy.optimize.curve_fit however, did not get any result so far. I am attaching the excel file for the data and also the python file.
Please guide me how to solve this task, if my approach is correct or there is another way to do it.
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Nupur Tembhare Well, I assume one of the problems is initial guess and the method just doesn't converge. I can recommend you normalize the experimental voltage before passing it into the optimization (if you do this don't forget to correct the function for optimization). Also try different methods (see "method" argument).
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Hello everyone,
I'm looking for a way to delaminate copper current collector of water-based anodes in Li-ion batteries without damaging the graphite film. I tried different materials such as HNO3 or saturated FeCl3 in organic solvents like acetone, ethanol, DMSO. They could be able to dissolve copper (depending on temperature and concentration) but the problem is that the film dissolves before copper dissolution.
I really appreciate any help.
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I would like to know which emerging material has a huge potential to overtake the existing chemistries of Lithium Ion Batteries or which other technology can be an alternative for LIB.
Thanks in advance.
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Thanks, it is interesting to question, you could look at the article
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Most of the data sets on the network only contain good information about the voltage and internal resistance of lithium batteries. The data of faulty battery is missing. Who can help me, I will be very grateful.
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Your article mentioned that NREL provided the data set of battery internal short circuit, but I did not find the corresponding data set from his official website. Could you please provide more specific information? Thank you
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Hello everyone,
All lithium ion battery pack/system in the Electric vehicle (EV) needs to achieve certain certification before entering the country's market.
So does anyone know all the standards, norms to satisfy China compulsory certification (CCC) for Electric vehicle battery packs?
I know a few examples like GB 38031-2020
Any references or links will be usfeul
Regards,
Praveen
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Thanks for your quick response. I will have a look
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As i am working on a real time characterization project of a lithium battery, I would to have a large amount of data to work on, and create a Machine learning model based on that.
Im taking some parameter under consideration : environment temperature, internal temperature, Energy charge / discharge, internal capacity...
PS: i need that data in csv or xlsx.
if anyone can help me it would be create.
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I have already designed a battery in OpenModelica which is a function of SOC and now I want to design the same model based on Python coding. I want to give the model a current varying load and want to check the voltage behavior of a battery.
I am trying to find out the SOC by colomb counting method.
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have you checked the following article?
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Li dendrite formation is a key challenge for Li-S batteries because Li metal anodes are used. Why are graphite or silicon-based anodes not used instead, since the problem is not as severe with these anodes? Of course, we need a source of lithium, but that can be in the form of pre-lithiated anode or sulfur cathode
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The graphite/silicon anode need pre-lithiation in LiS batteries, which is little bit complex procedure and at the end, the output we get in terms of energy storage/battery performance is not satisfactory. Lithium metal is the only and good option for anode is LiS batteries for high energy demands.
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Hello,
Now a days, paralleling of batteries is being done among different chemistry of batteries. Suppose, if I connect lead and lithium batteries in parallel. What will be the current distribtuion and voltage profile of the system. I am searching for literature about it but could not find exact information.
Can some one help me?
Thanks
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Depends on the size of your batteries, and how many cells each one has. In parallel circuits, currents are added but voltages need to match. So for example, you shouldn't put a single 4V Li cell in parallel with a single 2V Pb cell because then the Li cell will apply a net voltage of 2V to the Pb cell.
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to be clear, I am adding NaBH4 to a cobalt precursor to synthesize the CoP/Co2P hybrid as anode for the Li-ion battery but I am facing some problems with my latest samples. I've synthesized two samples with the same method but one of them shows an amorphous hump in the lower 2thetas and reduced intensities. what would cause such a problem? and would it harm my sample's electrochemical performance as an anode material?
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In each xrd diffractogram, the relative intensities between the overall peaks are not constant, rather with a variance in the ranges of values, ignorably samll or significantly large in comparison of SN ratio. Therefore, by one sampling, it is not sufficient to conclude with certainty according to the differences regarding relative intensities in the specific ranges pointed out by WNM. One conclusion is, however, certain, i.e. the 2nd sample has pooer crystallinity.
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I would like to know how can I vent the cells (under laboratory condition) using short circuit. My question is that under short circuit condition, the CID is triggered and the current is interrupted before the venting isn't it?. How to bypass the CID to open the Vents of the Lithium Ion Cells to test the venting pressure and resulting behaviour? Thanks in advance.
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Thank you so much for the replies. I have got the solution. Micro drill on the taps is the only option to bypass the CID.
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For example, if I have the following data for a LiNi0,8Co0,15Al0,05O2 compound used in the cathode:
- Specific capacity = 200 mAh/g
- Average voltage = 3,7 V
I have no information about the anode.
Is it possible to know how much energy is stored in a battery which uses this compound as a cathode? Otherwise, what information is missing to know that?
Thank you very much.
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In fact, as I know, to calculate energy density, you need information about the anode as well as the mass of your material. If you don't know the mass of your material, you can just calculate the specific energy density. For a full battery it has an anode parallel to the cathode, as 2 resistors in parallel. So specific energy density = average voltage / (1/anode specific capacity + 1/cathode specific capacity). And multiply with mass of both electrodes, the energy density is obtained.
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What your Suggestion to startup building a lithium battery for automotive use and are looking for assistance in designing a Buck/Boost charge controller (50A @ 12V) with a CAN interface to interface with a pre-existing software interface.
microcontroller design (ESP / STM32), DC design (buck/boost converters, high current, switching power supplies), Noise and EMF design considerations, Heat management, Galvanic isolation, Solar MPPT/PWM controller design, AEC Q100 experience, RF design considerations.
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For EV propulsion devices, electric motors, power converters, and controls, the battery has become the most important power source. There are still practical applications for its cost, energy and power density, memory effect, and charging time. Furthermore, the charging time and battery life are strongly dependent on the battery charger's characteristics. So its a good decision to think of trying it.
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I am looking for the optimal method to simulate the behavior of a lithium battery. I managed to implement part of Thevenin battery model in PSIM. I do not have licensed software such as mathlab or psim. Now I try to deduce the mathematical equation that describes a battery in order to use a programming language for simulation. Thank you for the help!
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Please check the open access battery pack simulation tool developed by our group, where the electrical, thermal and ageing behaviors of the batteries can be simulated. https://www.isea.rwth-aachen.de/cms/ISEA/Forschung/Forschungsthemen/Lebensdauerprognose-fuer-Batteriespeiche/~izptx/ISEA-Framework/
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Hello everyone,
I have 5 Samsung 21700 - 50 E (NCM chemistry) cells. I want to do basic charge and discharge by connecting it in series. Does anyone know if there is a cell holder available online for single cells? Or how to connect these cells and make contact?
Thanks in advance
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I totally agree with you