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LC-MS - Science method

Liquid chromatography–mass spectrometry (LC-MS, or alternatively HPLC-MS) is an analytical chemistry technique that combines the physical separation capabilities of liquid chromatography (or HPLC) with the mass analysis capabilities of mass spectrometry. LC-MS is a powerful technique used for many applications which has very high sensitivity and selectivity.
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I am working on developing a method for analyzing about 28 PPCPs. Calibration, SPE recovery, and all necessary validations were completed. However, I recently encountered an issue where the peaks for four compounds (eluting between RT 14–19 minutes) just disappeared. I prepared fresh standards and re-ran the analysis, but the peaks remained absent.
To troubleshoot, I switched to an isocratic method using the composition at which these compounds were previously eluting. This resulted in the detection of only 2 out of the 4 compounds, and even those appeared with very low intensity.
Since we have another high-resolution mass spectrometer (QTOF), I screened the standard mixture on it and observed all four compounds with good intensity.
We then performed maintenance on our HPLC-MS (This is the system we are using for quantification) system with the single quadrupole detector, including cleaning the ion guide, replacing the pump oil, and conducting other performance optimizations. After maintenance, we successfully detected peaks for seven new target compounds with good intensity, which were previously undetectable. However, the four problematic compounds still did not appear, even when tested at higher concentrations (up to 400 ppb).
I also tried running the analysis without the diverter valve, but the results were unchanged.
My current gradient is as follows:
0–1.5 minutes: 20% B
1.5–8 minutes: Linear increase to 80% B
8–9 minutes: Increase to 95% B, held until 20 minutes
20–23 minutes: Return to initial conditions (20% B)
23–36 minutes: Re-equilibration
Mobile phases:
A: 0.1% formic acid in water
B: Methanol
Flow rate: 0.3 mL, Injection volume: 10uL
The column in use is a SunFire C18 (4.6 × 250 mm). I am unsure what might have caused this. Please help with this or suggest what I should try now. Thanks so much
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You need to do method troubleshooting to see if it is the HPLC condition or the MS condition that causes the problem. Please inject your four std that you missed to the MS (with no column) to prove that the MS setting is still good. If you see the signal at the expected response (good signal), then you can focus on the column. If your MS is good, inject the same std with column and use the highest organic mobile phase to elute the compound quickly near the solvent front to prove that your column does not affect your analyses. Let me know the results and we can go from there.
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Want to know quantity of callus used, and types of solvents for extraction process.
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For LC-MS analysis, use about 2 grams of dried wild plant and callus samples, extracting with methanol at a ratio of 1:5 to 1:10. After soaking overnight, filter and concentrate the extracts for comparison.
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I'm working on the method development for the analysis of various PPCPs and emerging contaminants in aquatic environments, currently focusing on SPE recovery by spiking compounds in Milli-Q water. Using the OASIS HLB cartridge, I’m achieving good recoveries for most compounds, but triclosan remains problematic. My method involves washing with 5% methanol in water and eluting with methanol. I've tested different pH levels (pH 2, 4, 7, 10) and various elution solvents (methanol, acidified methanol, basic methanol, methanol with ethyl acetate, and methanol with DCM), yet I haven't recovered triclosan. I even tried DCM, expecting it would help, but saw no improvement. I am now planning to collect samples at each SPE stage after sample loading to pinpoint where triclosan is being lost. I’m using nylon 0.2 filters with syringes and all glassware throughout the process, but I’m struggling to identify the cause of the issue. Could anyone share their thoughts on this? Thanks
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Dileep Singh Good to hear you found the problem.
When I develop methods for formulations where filtration is important, I usually screen at least two types of filter materials (such as nylon and PTFE) and two different manufactures for each (say, FischerSci and MilliporeSigma). Additionally, I would keep the diameter (for example, 33 mm for all, otherwise there will be difference in binding and filtration capacity due to the surface area) and the material of construction for the housing the same (such as polypropylene; this is to avoid difference due to degradation and leeching, especially with aggressive solvents or base/acids). Whenever possible, I also use centrifugation as the reference solution to evaluate differences due to filtration. Since centrifugation is more straightforward, if I can get a clear solution where the expected recovery matches the experimental, that's my go to.
It's not unusual to see difference in results between labs when filtration is used. Some suggested reasons are listed below.
It's common to see a difference of a few percents in recovery using the same filter material from different manufacturers (especially if the diameters are also different).
If standard syringe filtration is used, that's prone to user variations:
- One point of variation for example is: I often prefer to discard the first few drops of filtrate as it may contain leechables or particles from the filter and/or syringe. But sometimes there is insufficient starting solution to sacrifice this amount.
- Another variation may be the final step of the filtration: Some people push the syringe plunger all the way in, thus trying to collect every last drop from the filter. This allows collecting of all volume and material but also may rupture the filter or create bubbles (and with that aggregates when we work with polymeric substances); it may also force out particles that would otherwise be retained by the filter.
- The total sample load( concentration and volume) and turbidity of the solution is important. If you only had one analyte in a clear solution, then that would filter more efficiently that filtering a solution that contains 10 analytes + matrix additives that is also turbid. The filter would then quickly exceed its binding capacity and may leave no pores for the analytes that would normally pass to traverse through the membrane.
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I’m using gradient elution on an LC-MS (Waters 2695) for PPCP separation and analysis. Currently, with my column volume and flow rate, I allow 12-13 minutes for re-equilibration between injections, extending the overall method time to about 36 minutes. Increasing the flow rate slightly to 0.4 or 0.5 mL/min could potentially shorten re-equilibration time and I can adjust that time in between somewhere to allow more effective separation during the gradient steps, or simply decrease the overall method duration. However, I’m considering whether this adjustment could impact column or system performance, such as creating back pressure issues.
My current gradient is set at 20% methanol from 0 to 2 minutes, then linearly increases to 80% at 8 minutes, 95% at 9 minutes (held isocratic until 20 minutes), followed by a return to 20% methanol at 23 minutes, with a 13-minute re-equilibration period.
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Thanks, William Letter for your response.
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We are currently working on a school project and came across data on isoquercetin and quercetin.
When analyzing isoquercetin using a collision energy of 40, we observed only a single fragment at 303 m/z. In contrast, applying a lower collision energy to quercetin resulted in a greater variety of fragments.
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Isoquercetin and quercetin are not the same compounds (isoquercetin is a 3-O-glucoside of quercetin). Therefore, they might produce different numbers of fragments at different collision energies.
What is likely happening in your case is that isoquercetin fragments to quercetin and glucose at the CE of 40 eV. Glucose is likely leaving as a neutral molecule which is why you do not see the corresponding peak in the MS, while m/z of 303 is most likely quercetin.
On the other hand, quercetin is an aglycone. As such, it has no glycoside bond that could be cleaved. This means that all of the collision energy will be used for the fragmentation of quercetin itself. This is why you see more fragments even on relatively lower CE.
If you increased the collision energy in the analysis of isoquercetin above 40 eV, you would most likely start to see some of the same fragments you see in the analysis of quercetin.
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If anybody interested? His name will be included as co-author. I shall be thankful for your reply.
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I have LCMS test data in my hand. I need help how to analysis what compounds/substances are there (The material is crude plant extract). I'm attaching the full chromatogram for reference. It would be very helpful if I could be pointed to some resources for making sense of this result.
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Hi I am consultant . you can consult to me.
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How can compounds with minimal or no UV absorption be effectively detected and monitored during liquid chromatography (normal or reversed-phase) purification? I am particularly interested in seeing chromatographic data or any other method that can indicate their separation in real-time without relying on post-purification staining techniques.
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Chiranjeev Sharma If you just need a secondary detection before the mass spec detector, I would think about derivatizing the sample. If amino sugars is all there is (and other other small amines), think about derivatization with FDNB or by the AccQ-Tag platform from Waters. Both ways result in added chromophore to the amine with ability to analyze by UV or DAD, or fluorescence detection, either detection able to go down to ng/mL. High resolution is achieved on standard RP columns with TFA or FA/ACN mobile phase. Check the attach literature below and think if you need to alter any of the acids/salts to make it more LC-MS friendly.
If simple sugars are also present, consider running orthogonal (additional) method by PAD (ion chromatography) detection for the simple sugars. Alternatively, if you are open to outsourcing your samples, reach out to a contract testing lab or university with capabilities to run ion-chromatography with in-line mass spec detection. That will be able to analyze both amino acids, amino sugars, and free sugars together.
FDNB Derivatization:
AccQ-Tag Platform:
Ion-Chromatography with mass spec:
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I performed the PAP (lipin) enzyme activity and the lipid PA (16:0/16:0) as a substrate to be added to the reaction mixture. After terminating the reaction, we extracted the PA from the mixture and performed the LC-MS analysis. However, we found a very strong carryover in the LC column which heavily affected the PA quantification in different samples. So does anyone encounter a similar problem like this and please advise it acoordingly, thanks a lot.
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The technique of chromatography is appropriate for lipids, but someone with more experience is needed to develop and optimize the method of analysis.
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What will be the criteria for selection of compounds for docking from the LC-MS compound library? Is it abundance or other criteria?
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When selecting compounds from an LC-MS library for molecular docking, prioritize those with favorable drug-likeness (e.g., Lipinski's Rule of Five), documented biological activity, and strong predicted binding affinities. Abundance is important but should be considered alongside structural characteristics and computational predictions.
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I am extremely new to this and needed to analyze the data for my research work. I have downloaded OpenChrome, but I don't know how to upload the list of unknown items into it. If there is any easy portal to study the analysis of Spectrometric data, please let me know. Thank you.
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Getting started with OpenChrom can feel overwhelming at first, but it's a powerful tool for spectrometric data analysis. Here’s a quick guide to help you upload and work with your data:
  1. Open OpenChrom: Launch the software, and you'll see a workspace where you can import your files.
  2. Import Data: Go to File > Import and select your data format (OpenChrom supports several, like *.CDF, .mzML, and others). Choose the file you want to upload, and it should appear in your project explorer.
  3. Data Visualization: Double-click your file in the project explorer to open it, and you should see chromatograms or mass spectra, depending on the data type.
For tutorials and guides, you might find these helpful:
  • OpenChrom's Documentation: They have a wiki and user guide that explains the interface and functionalities step-by-step.
  • YouTube Tutorials: Several introductory tutorials for OpenChrom can guide you through data import, visualization, and analysis workflows.
If you're interested in general spectrometric analysis, the book Mass Spectrometry: Principles and Applications by de Hoffmann and Stroobant is an excellent resource to get a foundational understanding of the analysis processes and techniques.
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I do lots of untargeted LC/MS analysis for structural elucidation of plant extracts. In the negative mode, I found uncommon adduct [M-H+114]- for some deprotonated ions [M-H]-. I have no TFA in the mobile phase (water with formic acid and acetonitrile). I noticed two fragments of m/z 113 and 69. Does anyone know or guide what the source of such an adduct (and fragments) comes from?
Thank you
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The [M-H+114]⁻ adduct you observed in negative mode LC/MS could be due to an uncommon contamination or reagent interaction. Although TFA is not present, the 114 Da addition might be related to other substances or reagents present in your system (e.g., a plasticizer or solvent impurity). The fragment ions at m/z 113 and 69 suggest a specific structure breaking down in a predictable way. It's essential to check for possible contaminants in your solvents, equipment, or even the plant extract itself. You could also run a blank to see if the adduct is present without the sample.
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Supposedly the m/z and abundance of a user spectra is being available with us. How to figure out the exact compound by searching in mass bank with the available information ?
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Determining the exact phyto-constituents in a plant extract using LC-MS (Liquid Chromatography-Mass Spectrometry) involves several key steps:
1. Sample Preparation
  • Extraction: Use an appropriate solvent (e.g., methanol, ethanol, water) to extract the desired phyto-constituents from the plant material.
  • Filtration/Centrifugation: Remove particulate matter to avoid clogging the LC column.
  • Concentration (if necessary): Concentrate the extract under reduced pressure or use a rotary evaporator.
2. LC-MS Setup
  • Column Selection: Choose a suitable chromatographic column based on the polarity and molecular weight of the phyto-constituents.
  • Mobile Phase: Optimize the mobile phase (e.g., a combination of water and acetonitrile or methanol) to achieve good separation.
  • Flow Rate: Set an appropriate flow rate, typically between 0.2 and 1.0 mL/min.
3. Mass Spectrometry Parameters
  • Ionization Mode: Select either ESI (Electrospray Ionization) or APCI (Atmospheric Pressure Chemical Ionization) depending on the nature of the compounds.
  • Mass Range: Set the mass range appropriate for the expected molecular weights of the phyto-constituents.
4. Method Development
  • Gradient Elution: Develop a gradient elution method to improve separation of compounds with different polarities.
  • Injection Volume: Optimize the injection volume to avoid overload of the column.
5. Data Acquisition
  • Run the Sample: Inject the prepared sample into the LC-MS system and collect data.
  • Monitor Multiple Ion Detection (MID): Use multiple reaction monitoring (MRM) for targeted analysis or full-scan for untargeted analysis.
6. Data Analysis
  • Identify Compounds: Use software to analyze the LC-MS data, identifying peaks based on retention time and mass-to-charge (m/z) ratios.
  • Database Comparison: Compare the identified m/z values with databases (like METLIN, ChemSpider) to confirm identities.
  • Quantification: If necessary, use calibration curves of known standards for quantification.
7. Validation
  • Reproducibility: Run replicate samples to ensure consistent results.
  • Matrix Effects: Consider any potential matrix effects that might influence the quantification.
8. Interpretation
  • Report Findings: Summarize the identified phyto-constituents, including their concentrations and any relevant biological activities.
Additional Considerations
  • Quality Control: Include quality control samples and blanks to ensure data integrity.
  • Complex Samples: For complex extracts, additional techniques like fractionation or complementary methods (e.g., NMR, UV-Vis) may be employed for better characterization.
By carefully optimizing each of these steps, you can accurately determine the phyto-constituents present in your plant extract.
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I plan to use saliva samples for LC-MS peptide analysis and noticed many papers treat them with 0.2% TFA in a 1:1 ratio. Why is TFA used, and does it solubilize / denature proteins?
I know that TFA used with the mobile phase to enhance the ionization, but what about its role in sample preparation?
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Note: If possible, avoid using any TFA in the mobile phase for the LC-MS system. It is too strong of an acid even when diluted. It will strongly bind to the instrument and column resulting in long term contamination of the system (Which is very expensive and time consuming to resolve).
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Please how can i download the .d format result from Agilent 1260 infinity II LCMS. I was only able to download pdf and csv format. I was able to download the pdf and csv format report but the i need the '.d' format result for MS DIAL analysis. Thanks
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Did you tried to find your data file in Software folder located in C-Drive ?
If not, then you can try to find there & directly copy your RAW .d file for further analysis.
Probable location followpath (may vary) -
C Drive - Program files - Agilent Masshunter - Data - (search or look by name of your data file which was provided during sample run)
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I am trying to develop the method for detection of celecoxib impurity through LCMS.
While I am optimising the ms parameters, I am able to see the ms peaks, However, when I inject the standard dilutions there is no impurity peak on chromatogram. Anybody can help what is the issue?
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1. The analyte may be present in quantities that are below the detection threshold. The sample may not have a enough concentration. 2. Configuring the Instruments: Temperature, mass spectrometer parameters, and flow rate are examples of improperly installed LC-MS settings.
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Does anyone know how to analyze LCMS data? I'm looking for guidance on how to identify differentially expressed genes and glycoproteins. How can I determine which glycoproteins are upregulated and downregulated?
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Hi,
Although I am not sure I'm able to help you out, there are a few questions I have:
What machine did you use to generate the MS data?
Did you try to use the software provided with the machine to analyze your MS data?
What was your experimental setup, i.e. what are you comparing, how many groups of samples, how many replicates per sample, what kind of controls were included, did you use some kind of labeling to facilitate protein quantitation, etc.
I assume that peptide mixtures were analyzed?
Typically, LC-MS raw data is searched against a database to allow for qualitative protein identification. In addition, the number of peptides retrieved per protein could be somewhat indicative of its abundance, just like sequence coverage, although there are a lot of restrictions and considerations you'll need to take into account when (quantitatively) interpreting your data, especially when you're interested in low abundant proteins.
Post-translational modifications, such as glycosylation, add a whole new level of complexity to your (quantitative) analysis.
Perhaps, some additional information might enable the community to help you out (better).
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What is the most friendly software for the analysis LC/MS on macos (e.g extension; LCD, mzml)...
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For LC-MS analysis on macOS, user-friendly software options include 1- MZmine: an open-source tool for mass spectrometry data processing, 2- OpenChrom: which supports various chromatography and mass spectrometry data analyses. Both offer robust functionalities suitable for analyzing LC-MS data.
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Please how can i download the '.d' format result from Agilent 1260 infinity II LCMS. I was only able to download pdf and csv format. i need the .d format for MS DIAL analysis. Thanks
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Dear Abdulwasiu Salaudeen Olawale,
the .d format is the Agile format for data files. It is a data folder in which the raw data, file header and method information are stored. You can copy, download or move this folder in the computer's Explorer. When you open the folder, you can see which individual files it contains. The export of Agilent .d data makes the measurement data set readable for other software, e.g. Excel, which cannot read the original Agilent data. To read and process Agilent .d (or other instrument data formats such as .raw from Thermo) you need the appropriate software from the manufacturer, e.g. Agilent Chemstation, or in your case probably the Mass Hunter software etc. or software that can process the manufacturer's data sets directly, e.g. Mestrenova for GC-MS data.
Data export is only necessary and useful if I want to process this data on another platform. Otherwise, I recommend sticking with the original software, as this is also suitable for the data format.
I have found a link on the internet that might be useful for you.
You can use it to perform an MS DIAL analysis
However, I take no responsibility for the function, the security of the site or its content.
Best regards and good luck
Joachim Horst
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I wish to learn LC-MS for my work, and looking out for courses/videos for the same. I wish to learn method development, data analysis and other tips. Any valuable suggestions will be highly appreciated!!
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If you really want to learn practical HPLC and LC-MS operation, then start by getting a job at an industrial company that utilizes these tools in their projects (i.e. A Specialty Chemical Company. Pharmaceutical, Medical or Clinical Lab). You may find an employer willing to train you.ational expectation. Yes, vendors will offer such classes, but that does not mean they will provide the many years worth of hands-on training and knowledge needed to actually use a system. Proper operation and use of such complex analytical instruments requires hands-on experience, with a specific instrument, running many samples types over time. Do not be misled by sales people eager to take your money (at least so called "free" classes will not cost you money, but may also provide misinformation).
The classic texts [e.g. "Introduction to Modern Liquid Chromatography";
Author(s):Lloyd R. Snyder, Joseph J. Kirkland, John W. Dolan] which describe and illustrate HPLC (and some LC-MS) concepts are of great value to read and do not require formal classes. These texts are well worth studying both before and during training to learn the fundamental concepts (something many users never master). However, without an HPLC system to train on, books alone will not allow practical skills to be acquired. While the basic concepts are always the same, each brand and model of instrument are different, requiring different knowledge and experience to use. However, without an HPLC system to train on and an experienced professional chromatographer to guide you, books alone will not allow practical skills to be acquired. Initially, learning just the basics of HPLC (which are the most important areas of study, as "MS" is just one of the detection systems used) takes the average scientist 5-years of full-time training, with mentoring, using an actual complete instrument. Troubleshooting and method development skills take much longer. No short-cut is possible to replace the needed hands-on time and experience required.
If you really want to learn practical HPLC and LC-MS operation, then start by getting a job at an industrial company that utilizes these tools in their projects (i.e. A Specialty Chemical Company. Pharmacetical, Medical or Clinical Lab). You may find an employer willing to train you.
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How to calculate Decision limit (CCα) and Detection capability (CCβ) from LOD LOQ data. is there any free software?
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Hi there! I´ve used DETARCHI software which is indeed ver easy to use in the calculation of CCA and CCB.
You may contact the department of Chemistry from the University of Burgos, Spain to get the software.
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In the qualitative compound report obtained from HR-LCMS analysis of crude plant extracts, what is meant by Hits (DB)? Should we consider all the predicted compounds from the list for further studies?
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"Hits (DB)" refers to the compounds detected in the sample that match entries in a reference database (DB). These hits are essentially the compounds that the analysis software predicts to be present in the sample by comparing the acquired mass spectra with those in the database. Whether you should not consider all the predicted compounds from the list for further studies before precising it.
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Hello everyone.
During my analyses on LC MSMS, the area ratio (Standard Area/Isotopically labelled Standard Area) increases with time for the quality control point.
I'm having trouble explaining this trend.
Also My blanks before and after the quality control are cleaned.
Do you have any hypotheses?
Thank you very much.
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Many possible answers and no web forum will provide the specific answer. HPLC systems are very complex and there are many causes for variation in results. All of these are best addressed in-person, on-site, evaluating the specific instrumentation AND the operator (as most problems are the result of poor training).
In your case, you will want to evaluate the condition of the HPLC system and MS settings. If MS peak AREAS alone are increasing (or changing), this may be the result of column fouling, detector overloading (contamination). Sample matrix may be interferring with the detection. Review sample cleanup procedures and all check to make sure that the HPLC method used follow good chromatography fundamentals (e.g. Proper K prime, peak shape, sample is dissolved 100% in mobile phase before injection, column washing with a solvent that is stronger than the mobile phase after each analysis, etc). If your samples have chromophores present, then your HPLC system should have a DAD inline with the MS detector. The combination of detectors is used to collect the most orthogonal data about each sample (UV/VIS, retention times + MS fragmentation data) AND can be very useful to troubleshoot problems.
Speak with a local professional chromatographer, on-site, to find a solution. The LC-MS system is designed to be used by someone with many years of professional training.
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I have tried to optimize the serum free dmem which is the best but i am afraid the secretory profile has too much variations.
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Here is a publication on this topic Ekta:
Lawlor K, Nazarian A, Lacomis L, Tempst P, Villanueva J. Pathway-based biomarker search by high-throughput proteomics profiling of secretomes. J Proteome Res. 2009 Mar;8(3):1489-503. doi: 10.1021/pr8008572. PMID: 19199430.
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Data Acquisition detected more than 65000 metabolites with area maximum, RT-value and peak-rating. What is the significance of Peak Rating?
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The peak rating is an important quality control measure that enhances the reliability and robustness of metabolomics data analysis by filtering out low-quality peaks and focusing the study on the most trustworthy metabolite signals.
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I would like to do an insilico study in a medicated milk. So planning to do LCMS for identifying the phytoconstituents of the same. But the experts suggested to extract the protein and fat portion and do the LCMS. Is there any other methods to use the medicated milk as a whole for LCMS. Is it possible to use the formulation as a lyophilized powder and reconstitute it with methanol for analysis?
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Thank you so much for giving me a clear answer.
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Is there any free software or an open source for data preprocessing and compound identification?
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Phil Käding thank you so much for your help
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I am doing research that requires using LC/MS to analyse my data. I have very little knowledge of chemistry and LCMS. I have read through many posts and articles, but there is not a single place that explains how much should be made and how to make Mobile phases needed for LCMS.
The mobile phase that I need to use is :
A: water containing ammonium formate [1 mM] and formic acid [0.1%]
B: acetonitrile containing ammonium formate [1 mM] and formic acid [1 mM]
Are there any resources available that I can use to help me or any idea about how I should go on to prepare the solution?
Thank you
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Hi,
And welcome to the wonderful world of chemistry and LC-MS!
Please be aware that preparing your mobile phases is probably the easiest step in the process of acquiring LC-MS data, so be prepared for more, and more complicated, challenges..
What flow rate will you be using in your LC method? Together with the length (time) of the overall method, including gradient, column washing and re-equilibration, and the number of blanks, controls and samples you're planning to run, you can estimate the volume of both mobile phases you'll need. Always make a bit more than you absolutely need, as it will be impossible to completely empty a glass bottle.
With regard to preparing the mobile phases, for 1 liter, prepare a stock solution of 1 M ammonium formate in water by weighing and dissolving 630.5 mg ammonium formate in 10 mL water.
Then, for mobile phase A, add 1 mL of the 1 M stock solution to 998 mL water, add 1 mL formic acid and mix. Done.
For mobile phase B, I assume you also want 0.1 % formic acid, instead of 1 mM?
Do the same: add 1 mL of the 1 M stock solution to 998 mL acetonitrile, add 1 mL of formic acid and mix and you're ready to go. Mobile phase B will also contain 0.1 % water, but that will not be a problem (I guess).
Hope this helps: good luck!
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My work is based on fungi growth and for bioactive compound identification and structure purpose, i required LC-MS and GC-MS for my study.
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Send email request on along with details of nature of samples, number , what type of study etc......
My mobile- +91 9820693161,
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I am currently working on a project that requires the isolation of light chain from reduced IgG for bottam up proteomics-Mass spectrometry. Kindly provide insights or recommendations. Thanks!
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As mentioned above by Dr. Albert Lee, you can use protein A or protein G to remove heavy chain. You can also use cation exchange chromatography to separated light chain from heavy chain, especially when the amount of the light chains you need is small since you can use an high resolution analytical cation exchange chromatography column.
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For my project, I am attempting to purify an intrinsically disordered domain cloned in a pET28b vector. The strain used for overexpression is Rosetta II(DE3).
Firstly, I encountered an unexpected size difference on SDS-Page. The theoretical size is 17606.27 Da, but the observed size was around 28 kDa. I suspect this variance may be attributed to the highly charged sequence.
Secondly, I performed purification using Ni-NTA and SPFF columns. The protein was verified by LC-MS, revealing a mass of 25,662 Da, which is unusual. The DNA sequence is correctly inserted in pET28b, however, the T7 terminator is located relatively close to the stop codon (12 nucleotides away).
Consequently, I am unsure if this proximity could affect the transcription/translation of my protein.
Another possibility is a frameshift problem within the sequence.
What other explanations could account for this phenomenon?
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Thank you for all this valuable information.
In response to Devin Camenares , from the end of my T7 promoter to the first start codon, there are only 68bp. I've checked as you suggested, but no other start codon is localized in that region. Although I didn't obtain the sequence from the LC-MS results, the sample underwent a two-step purification process (Ni-NTA followed by SPFF), and verification was performed via SDS-page. Therefore, I believe it's my protein and not a contaminant.
For some supplementary information, my plasmid was ordered. I've checked the frame and sequence, and it seems correct. I will test the protein production with another strain of BL21 to see if the problem could arise from my strain background
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We are an R&D laboratory focused on anionic, cationic, and zwitterionic surfactants and usually tackle surfactant synthesis and analysis of products from customers. In particular, we deal with AOS (alpha-olefin sulfonates), primary alcohol sulfates, betaines, amphoacetates, amine-oxides.. etc. To gear our analytical laboratory up, we identified an HPLC-MS (single quadrupole) instrument as a valuable addition to comply with unmet needs that have risen in the last years, like figuring out the outcome of the new reaction and investigating byproducts and new raw materials. Currently, we are evaluating three choices: Agilent LC/MSD, Waters Acquity Arc System (with Qa Acquity Detector), and Shimadzu LC-MS2050. Could anyone in this field share their experiences with these instruments? and suggest which of them is the most reliable for this application. Thank you so much for your attention and participation.
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In general, the best LC/MS system for analyzing surfactants will depend on your specific analytical requirements and preferences, so it is essential to evaluate different systems based on factors such as performance, ease of use, sample compatibility and workflow. In addition, consulting with experts in the field and looking at user reviews can provide valuable insights into the strengths and limitations of different systems.
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Please is there anyone who has a tutorial video on metaboanalyst 6.0 or who can assist me to run it on my LCMS/GCMS Data for untargetted metabolomics studies on soil and plants? We can collaborate on publishing together.
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MetaboAnalyst 6.0, huh? That's a solid choice for your untargeted metabolomics studies on soil and plants. I've used it before, so I can definitely give you Abdulwasiu Salaudeen Olawale a hand.
First off, if you're looking for a tutorial video, I suggest checking out the official MetaboAnalyst YouTube channel. They've got some great resources that can walk you Abdulwasiu Salaudeen Olawale through the process step by step. Also, the MetaboAnalyst website itself has detailed documentation that's worth a read.
As for running it on your Abdulwasiu Salaudeen Olawale LCMS/GCMS data, let's break it down:
1. **Data Preparation**: Make sure your Abdulwasiu Salaudeen Olawale data is in the right format. MetaboAnalyst usually prefers data in common formats like CSV, Excel, or TXT.
2. **Upload Your Data**: Head over to the MetaboAnalyst website, sign in, and upload your Abdulwasiu Salaudeen Olawale data. Follow the prompts to select the appropriate analysis type and upload your LCMS/GCMS data.
3. **Parameter Settings**: Set your Abdulwasiu Salaudeen Olawale parameters according to your study design and the type of analysis you're doing. This includes things like normalization, scaling, and statistical tests.
4. **Analysis and Interpretation**: Once your data is uploaded and parameters set, run the analysis. MetaboAnalyst will crunch the numbers and generate results for you Abdulwasiu Salaudeen Olawale. Take some time to interpret the results and see what insights you can gather.
5. **Collaboration and Publishing**: Absolutely, collaboration sounds like a great idea! Once we've got some solid findings, we can definitely work on publishing together. It's all about spreading knowledge and advancing science, right?
Feel free to reach out if you Abdulwasiu Salaudeen Olawale need any specific help with any step of the process. I'm here to make sure your metabolomics study goes smoothly!
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Regarding LC/MS metabolites
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Certainly! Here are some software options for analyzing LC/MS metabolites efficiently:
1. XCMS
2. MZmine
3. MetaboAnalyst
4. Progenesis QI
5. MassHunter
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We run a Sciex X500r qToF and tune it once a week currently. I've been told that negative tune has historically been poor on other systems. The peak intensities and width are fine, however the 520.9 m/z precursor ion dips in and out of the upper 2ppm (-2 to +2pmm) range. I can't pinpoint what in the system is causing this and is this something that I should be concerned about?
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It seems like you're experiencing fluctuations in mass accuracy for the 520.9 m/z precursor ion during negative tuning on your Sciex X500r qToF. While this may not directly impact peak intensities or width, it could affect data reliability. Here are some steps you could take to address the issue:
1. Check instrument conditions.
2. Verify calibration.
3. Review tuning parameters.
4. Ensure proper sample preparation.
5. Consider external factors.
6. Consult Sciex support if needed.
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How to evaluate the compounds with usage of peaks and their respective values in LCMS - TOF instrumentation? Is there any web portals for the data interpretation? I Have got Both LC (2 Files) MS (10-11 Files) cycles. How can I interpret those all data?
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XCMS online remains the standard tool.
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I would like to ask you about the method for sample storage, extraction, sample preparation and analysis of saccharides and sugar alcohols in needles and leaves of forest trees by LC-MS (or GC-MS). I would need to suppress and inactivate the enzymatic reactions in the samples.
In my opinion, needles and leaves should be immediately frozen in liquid nitrogen after tear off. Then remove water from frozen samples by lyophilization, extract non-structural sugars by ethanol, remove chlorophyl from extracts and then analysis.
Thank you for your answers and help.
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Since you have them already frozen in liquid nitrogen you can probably skip the lyophilization step. Grind them in a ball mill to get a nice powder. As Kai points out, you'll probably need water in your extraction and definitely need it for your analysis if you use HPLC.
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I am looking suitable standard lipid for quantifying phosphatidylethanolamine (PE) from serum samples. As you may be aware, standard lipids, such as those derived from different sources (Soy, egg, brain etc), can have variations in their double bond positions. Could you please provide insights or recommendations on how to choose the most suitable standard lipid for our specific application?
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Hi Keller, Thanks for your reply!!
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Is it necessary to quantify each standard with its specific compound, or can I use a single standard to quantify two different compounds with the same chemical structure, for example?
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If the extinction coefficient is the same at the same wavelength, you might be able to use the same standard for two different compounds. Otherwise, you need separate calibration curves. If the compounds have different extinction coefficients, they will have different concentration/absorbance response curves (which should be linear). If different wavelengths are used, the lamp and detector combination will cause different response to a compound, and the extinction coefficient will likely be different. On for the mass spectrometer, different compounds may well ionize or fragment differently, causing differing response from the MS. To be sure that the two compounds behave sufficiently similar to one another, one needs to run the experiment to prove the correspondance.
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I am working on pesticide (s-traizine herbicides) removal from water by using biopolymer-based metal organic framework. I have performed a solid phase extraction process for pesticides extraction and I have prepared 5 pre-concentration of 10 ppm, 20 ppm,30 ppm,40 ppm,, and 50 ppm by following the literature.After that we have to detect the amount of pesticides before extraction and after extraction by LCMS-MS. But the problem is there is the criteria of pesticides for LCMS is too lowest i.e ppb from 0.1 ppb, 0.001 ppb, and 0.0001 ppb and the requirement of our extraction experiment is 10 to 50 ppm .Could we prepare the LCMS-MS input concentration from obtaining eluent from removal experiment?Except these our UV-visible results shown good removal effeciency.
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0.001 ppb, and 0.0001 ppb..these are not reachable concentrations for MS systems even if you apply enrichment steps using large-volume SPE I guess...
Since the question is very not clear to me I should indicate that You need to develop a method by proving the working limits of the extraction are in alignment with the range of detection concentrations. Meaning, that extraction efficiency between 10 to 50 ppm is not something that validates 0.1 ppb, 0.001 ppb, and 0.0001 ppb levels.
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Hi everyone.
I'm having some trouble with the peak shape on VancoShell column. The mobile phases used are 5,5 mM ammonium acetate (pH 4,7) and methanol, in the ratio 20:80. Column temperature is 10°C, and flow rate is 0,17 mL/min. I'm trying to develop LC-MS method for chiral separation of venlafaxin. The instrument is Agiletn 1290 UHPC coupled to Agilent QTOF 6550. In the beginning, the peak shape was OK, but at some point, the peaks started to have shoulders. I tried washing the column with pure methanol, as well as tried to regenerate the column as per instructions. It helped a little, but the peak shape is still not that great.
I'm not sure what happened with the column, since the only thing injected onto it was a standard solution. Does anyone have any advice on how to improve the peak shape? Also, I'm wondering can I reverse flush the column since there is nothing in the manual about that.
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Please provide the EXACT column dimensions for your chiral antibiotic HPLC column.
  1. Are you injecting PURE standard? How did you confirm this?
  2. Do you have a UV/VIS diode-array detector ("DAD") inline with the MS detector? You should, as a DAD would make method development far easier to start with as your compound will be easy to detect.
  3. It is necessary to first establish what K prime is for your method before any comments could be made regarding peak shape.
  4. Sudden changes to peak shape are often caused by column fouling (e.g. sample overload) and chiral columns of this type are easy to overload with sample as their capacity is VERY LOW compared to a common C18 type phase.
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I am planning to synthesize a peptide :YSTCDFIM (MW 978). However, no matter how I did the synthesis, the LCMS result always showed peaks at 529, 644, 791, 1035. It seems like I always missed STDF residues in my sequence. I don't know why it happened.
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Okay, no problem.
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I am doing LC-MS (LC-QToF) of a phosphonate compound (nitrilotris methylene phosphonic acid), for which I add derivatization agent trimethylsilyl diazomethane to each sample and wait 2hours before running them on the instrument. I do not have any mass label internal standard for the compound, so I am using caffeine as the internal standard. I am using C18 column. In the beginning I was getting disturbed peaks with a tail from the start of the runs, then for two weeks I got clean peaks. However, I started getting the same type of disturbed peaks again. What could cause the disturbed peaks in LCMS? I have attached a screenshot of the disturbed peak I am getting. My internal standard peak also looks like this.
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Hello, a bit more information would be useful to help diagnose the problem but just looking at the fronting peak shape my guess would be a sample solvent that has an eluotropic strength that is too high combined with an injection volume that is also too high. Try injecting a lower volume or matching the injection solvent with your starting gradient conditions.
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This year we have the opportunity to purchase an HRMSD. We have an Agilent Infinity II 1260 HPLC in our lab and are planning to purchase a Q-TOF. I have experience with Agilent equipment (GC/LC/GC-MS SQ/LC-MS SQ), but not with HRMS.
We are planning to use this instrument for untargeted metabolomics. We are interested in searching for producers of new antimicrobial compounds, performing screening and identification of new antimicrobials of microbiological origin, and studying the biosynthesis of microorganisms.
So far, we have been offered two Agilent detectors:
1. 6546
2. Revident.
As I know HRMS produces huge amounts of data, and performing untargeted metabolomics workflow requires additional software to work with the data in case of untargeted analysis.
Now Agilent offers two sets of software, which is a bit confusing for me.
1. Let's call the first set "classic". It includes:
a. MassHunter Profinder (for Feature finding stage)
b. Mass Profiler Professional (MPP) (for Alignment and statistics)
i. ID Browser (module of MPP for Identification)
ii. PathWay Architect (optional MPP module for metabolite pathways buildings)
c. METLIN PCDL for LC/Q-TOF (database for metabolomics)
2. Let's call the second set "new" It includes:
a. software product - MassHunter Explorer, which, according to the manufacturer, combines all of the above software products into one.
b. ChemVista library manager with METLIN PCDL library
Questions:
1. Is the MassHunter Profinder standalone SW or is it part of MassHunter Qual or Mass Profiler Professional
2. Which one of the SW sets should be chosen? They do the same. But do they really do the same and have the same capability? Marketing? From my experience the early version of SW is quite restricted. For 6546 and the newest Revident Aglent recommends MassHunter Explorer.
3. To buy or not to buy:
a. I read that untargeted analysis has a huge community and freeware databases and SW for metabolite identification. Is METLIN PCDL library a MUST part of SW from the Vendor? Can I consider it as optional and use freeware DB?
b. The same question about ChemVista library manager?
4. By which SW/Databases do you realize your untargeted metabolomics workflow?
5. Any experience with the Revident model of Q-TOF. How far is it better/worth in metabolomics compared to 6546? Marketing?
a. Intelligent functions
b. Solutions for Tuning
6. Is the APCI source essential for untargeted metabolomics?
Thank you in advance.
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Dear Andriy,
First, congratulation with your future instrument. I personally love Agilent 6546, I did not work with Revident though.
Second, in my opinion, the most important step in untargeted metabolomics by HRMS is to fully understand what it can and can't do. Basically, I think a researcher has to accept that untargeted metabolomcis will not provide meaningful results immediately. Also, one has to accept that a whole process is so complex (not difficult, but complex), that it will be sub-optimal for most of the chemicals of interest. Therefore, for example, I would not consider APCI as a must have source. In contrast, for the targeted analysis, APCI can be essential in some cases.
The software provided are kind of repeat each other (in my impression), so I ended up using mostly MPP for all tasks. I think it is quite nice, intuitive and powerful. I do prefer to perform post-processing data analysis using external soft, but build-in functions work well for the initial results.
I do recommend to have PCDL, it can save you a lot of time for the primary metabolites annotation on the fly. But you can use external soft and databases too, if PCDL is beyond your budget or so.
Maintenance of 6546 is acceptable. in my case I have to prepare tuning mix by combining purchased components, but I heard Agilent is going to (already did) provide prepared mixes. Cone cleaning is easy, the needle adjustment can be tricky, but hopefully you will not need it often. I also like Agilent's video instructions., but I strongly recommend you to make sure how good is Agilent support in your location. Problems are unavoidable, I had a great support in this cases, but it is in the US. I know that other locations can be different.
Good luck.
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I have done the LC-MS result of my complex and its molecular weight is supposed to be 515.5 g/mole. I want someone who is experienced in LC-MS data interpretation. I have attached the picture of the result. Kindly interpret it I will be highly grateful to you.
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Hello Talha Baig
it would be desirable if you could show the presumed structure of the target molecule here. The measurements are ESI positive measurements, that take from the spectra, the mass 515 can be the target mass if the molecular weight is 514. With ESI positive mode an M+H adduct is formed, so you get a mass os 515.
Noel W Davies has noted that the isotopic pattern of masses in the 775 and 910 range shows multiple halogen atoms, the pattern at 775 looks like a Cl5 pattern to me, the pattern at 910 looks like a Cl6 pattern. Since the isotope pattern at 515 shows no halogens, the question arises where the halogen compounds come from?
As these are very small signals, they could also be impurities, but the suspected target signal at 515 is not particularly intense either
With a target structure and the reactants that were used, many things could certainly be clarified better, but try the approach of Hediye Erdjument-Bromage and calculate the exact mass of your target molecule and then try to find the signal in your measurements. Don't forget that M+H or M-H adducts are formed, alternatively M+Na (= M+23) for ESI positive.
Good luck and all the best
Joachim Horst
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BSA assay and Fluorometric peptide assay do not work for the quantification of the Pepstatin A (aspartic protease/cathepsin D inhibitor/peptide). Does anybody have an idea to quantify it besides using LC-MS?
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Somewhat less complicated than LC_MS I would suggest reversed-phase LC in combination with UV detection at 218 nm employing a proper (thus not to steep!) acetonitril gradient using 0,1% TFA.
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Hello! Is it possible to identify pigments using HPLC-MS but without the use of any standards? Despite not having any pigments standards, I have performed the separation of my extracted pigments sample in HPLC-MS. I tried comparing my results with those of other studies who have used standards but I still couldn't identify which pigments I have.
Thank you in advance.
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No. "MS" data is only as good as the overall method used to collect and evaluate it (The "method" includes the column, mobile phase, instrument settings, standards and proof that the method follows good chromatography fundamentals). With no standards for comparison and other orthogonal techniques used, no identification would be possible. Purely speculative.
MS data on its own has very little value as a MS system will always output "data". Data "from other studies" would be anecdotal at best as only data collected on the same instrument, by a trained operator (which takes many, many years) using standards with an approved method would be useful to draw conclusions from.
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Hello everyone!
I would like to ask you about the reasons for autosampler break.
The previous day, I used the LCMS machine and I did not put a sample in the rack at which the autosampler came and can not take any sample, but at that time, I noticed the needle did not go down, so the break can not happen. When I finished my work, the system was still fine.
Four days later, I came back and turned on the LC system, but not yet activated the LCMS on the software. After 1 minute, the light on the autosampler part turned red and I could see the needle was bending. When the engineer came, he said that both needle and sample transport parts were broken. I checked the history on the software but nobody used the machine except me on that day.
I could not understand the reason why it happened just by turning on the LC system. If you have any experience on this case, could you please help me?
Thank you very much!
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Chau Phuong Bui: You did not provide any information regarding the make, model and type of instrument or autosampler in your post. When new users such as yourself post general questions such as this one, please take the time to first include such basic information in your post. There are several hundred different types of autoinjectors and samplers on the market and many operate and function differently. Also, please share with us the specific instrument errors recorded in the instrument software for the failure noted.
That said, there are many reasons why an Autoinjector NEEDLE may be bent during operation.
Here are a few reasons why the needle may be bent at 90 degrees on an AutoInjector:
  • The sample vial has a solid cap on it instead of one with a soft septum (I have seen this so many times!).
  • The needle is worn out ("Needles" should last several years, but in all cases the metal weakens over time, requiring replacement as normal maintenance).
  • The Needle itself has been misaligned when installed and/or damaged (bent) during use. *Re-align the needle to the seat per the manufacturer's procedure and evaluate for proper centering.
  • The Transport mechanism is loose, misaligned or worn-out. A worn belt drive, dirty optical sensor or worn actuator motor may result in poor position alignment. *All transports wear out and must be replaced at some point.
  • The Transport Calibration is out-of-specification. Re-align the transport using the manufacturer's procedure and re-check operation.
Please contact someone with professional experience in maintaining and servicing the specific instrument you have to assist you in troubleshooting AND/OR contact the instrument vendor's service dept.
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Which process or technique will work? Will LC-MS give me a full enzyme profile?
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You can try a micro Kjeldahl and capture all the Nitrogen atoms as ammonia gas.
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Hi,
I am looking for the supplementary tables of this letter "Recommendations for Reporting Metabolite Data" . they are no longer aviliable online. Anyone have them could upload them.
regards,
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Batoul Alallam The reference to the paper seems to have escaped:
Plant Cell. 2011 Jul; 23(7): 2477–2482.
doi: 10.1105/tpc.111.086272
PMCID: PMC3226225
PMID: 21771932
I confirm that the links to supplementary material don't work.
In my opinion, this paper doesn't entirely meet the requirements of the metabolomics community. In particular, the term "annotation" should surely indicate that when a metabolite - identified or not - is found again in a later study, there can be no doubt at all that the same compound has been detected.
By that definition, as proposed in particular for steroids by Shackleton's group (2010), it is rarely possible to annotate a metabolite using LC-MS, however elaborate the mass spectrometer may be.
I have discussed this question in two diatribes published on RG about the failure, during half a century, to identify a putative endogenous inhibitor of Na,K-ATPase:
Putative inhibitors of the sodium-potassium pump in mammals: a review. April 2018, DOI: 10.13140/RG.2.2.10992.35845
'Endogenous ouabain (EO)' in mammals: absence of valid experimental evidence. December 2019, DOI: 10.13140/RG.2.2.10144.53765
I cited an earlier article, which may be useful here:
Sumner LW, Amberg A, Barrett D, Beale MH, Beger R, Daykin CA, et al. Proposed minimum reporting standards for chemical analysis. Metabolomics 2007 Sep 19 ;3(3):211–21. DOI: 10.1007/s11306-007-0082-2
However, I consider that this important subject, which is as old as chemistry, ought to be a matter for learned societies, particularly our chemical societies.
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Do you have any suggestions, which SPE cartiges to use for markers of oxidation stress? I do a LC-MS analysis of quite various group of analytes, including bases (e.g. hydroxyguanosine), acids (e.g. ascorbic acid), aminoacids and peptides (e.g. tyrosine, glutathion), and also lipophilic substances (isoprostanes etc.). What first came to my mind was the HLB sorbent. But is there any other/better option? Or should I rather make two extraction protocols, for example one for the lipophilics and bases (maybe MCX?) and second for the acids and aminoacids?
I will be extracting those markers from serum or cell/tissue extracts, so I need to get rid of mainly proteins, phospholipides, anorganic ions.
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You need to fully understand the property of your target analytes and your marrix interference in your sample that you want to keep or get rid of. In your case, your targets are low concentration of the combination of neutral, acid, and basic small molecules. Your matrix interference are high concentration of large molecules of protein/peptides/phospholpids in the serum. You have at least two options to eliminate the majority of proteins by using a) acetonitrile crash (mix 1 part of serum and 3 parts of acetonitrile. Protein molecules will precipitate out of the solution and your analyes will be in a solution of 1:3 water:acetonitrile. The second way is SPE from Phenomenex or Waters or Agilent that will capture protein/phospholipids. Please do the Google search on these products. . Once you get rid of protein/ phospholipids in the samples, you need to capture your analytes and eliminate small polar/ionic compounds to minimi the matrix suppression at the Ion-spray interface of your LCMS instrument. The mixed mode SPE (MCX or MAX) will be a good choice because one cartridge will be needed. Please study further from the Waters application note of this product on the internet. Essentially if you use MCX, it has affinity for neutral/acidic compounds via reversed-phase mode and retain basic analyte via the cation-exchange mode. You diute the sample with warer to lowere the concentration of organic solvent in the sample and lower the pH with acid. At this condition, the acid analyte will not ionize and retain on the stationary phase along with the neutral ones. The basic analytes will ionizeband has positive charge and stay at the stationary phase. The small polar neut molecule such as sugar and small metal ions will pass thru. you can wash the SPE with water and may be 10% methanol/ water. To elute all anayte, you will use methanol having high pH (1% ammonia).
hope this helps.
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i isolated sterols from plants methanolic extract. when run by TLC , found it is not active under UV and it is sterol by doing acidic methanolic spray with heat treatment 100 c approximately and also chemical test was positive for phytosterol. I would like to know mass of the compound which GC/LC MS Technique is suitable to know mass of the compound. and how should should i know my compound was volatile or nonvolatile.
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Yes, it is better to know if the compound is volatile and thermally stable before you can run direct GC-MS . Also, run UV spectra from 200-400 nm to check if it has any absorbance in the range. If non-active you can only use HPLC with an ELSD detector to determine the purity first. There are other ways to find the structure such as NMR.
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In untargeted metabolomic (LCMS) my analytical standard is not in the same retention time as my annotation. The annotation was done through isotope-labeling to annotate the elemental formula, followed by MS/MS all-ion fragmentation data analysis. The fragmentation pattern of Phe-Glu was matching my MS/MS data for this peak (except minor alterations of the ratios between fragments). Is there another reason for that to happen, except of course that it is just not the right annotation?
Thank you very much for replying
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Great!
I figured the msms will give me high certainty as it being referred to as high degree of annotation.
Yes there was the original peak in this sample and dipeptides has a lot of shared fragments, which i did not realized before.
So Its just not the correct annotation. However im convinced its a dipeptide very close to Phe-Glu so I will get other isomers standard for that.
Thank you very much Jan
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Is it highly recommended to use northern blot to ensure my RT-PCR results instead of LC-MS for example?
Thank you in advance,
Kiriakos
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Murat Eravci Thank you!
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I have to detect & quantify the antibiotic residues from waterbodies but HPLC/LCMS is not available to me right now. Thus I am now thinking about the UV-NIR methods to detect & quantify the antibiotic residues from wastewater as an alternative. Is it enough? What do you think about it?
If you are an expert in this particular field please rise your voice, thanks a lot to all of you in advance.
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Thanks a lot to all
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I have 10-30 micro thickness FFPE slices. I want to extract metabolites for LC-MS analysis.
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Procedure: (I work in natural product metabolomics but not in biology. Therefore, it's crucial to be mindful of sample denaturation and proceed with necessary precautions.)
1. Slide Deparaffinization:
Deparaffinize FFPE slices by incubating them in xylene. Repeat this step until the paraffin is completely removed.
2. Rehydration:
Gradually rehydrate the tissue slices through a series of ethanol washes (e.g., 100%, 95%, 70% ethanol).
3. Proteinase K Digestion:
Prepare a proteinase K digestion buffer and incubate the rehydrated tissue slices in this buffer containing proteinase K.
Incubate the samples overnight at a suitable temperature to allow digestion of proteins and reversal of cross-links.
4. Nucleic Acid Extraction:
Extract nucleic acids using a phenol:chloroform:isoamyl alcohol solution. Perform centrifugation to separate the aqueous phase containing nucleic acids.
Transfer the aqueous phase to a new tube and repeat the extraction with chloroform.
Precipitate nucleic acids by adding isopropanol and washing with ethanol.
5. Washing and Resuspension:
Wash the nucleic acid pellet with 70% ethanol to remove impurities.
Air-dry or speed-vac the pellet and resuspend it in RNase-free water.
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I have three native plant proteins. After digesting them, their peptides were analyzed through LCMS Agilant MassHunter qualitative analysis. I have no idea how to analyze the chromatogram peaks and spectra peaks through TIC Scan, ESI Scan, and all. Please, someone guide me on how I could interpret it and identify the proteins, as I have raw data.
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do you have LC-MS/MS data, or run standards.
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Please suggest the procedure for LC-MS analysis, and what things are there to keep in mind while performing it?
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To better understand what you are asking, please first familiar yourself with the basics of HPLC and also HPLC-MS (LC-MS) analysis. Please contact a professional LC-MS laboratory or experienced industrial chromatographer at your school for assistance. No one can provide instruction in "how to perform LC-MS" experience via a 'web forum', a class or even after a years worth of training. Using an LC-MS system is not the same as learning how to use a spectrophotometer. Learning just the basics of this complex technique just for one group of compounds and/or one mode of chromatography can take many years of full-time work.
As a student, your time may be best spent learning how to work with someone who already has this experience and can help you directly with your project. This will increase the chances that the data YOU collect and any interpretations made are accurate.
  • *An LC-MS system will always output data, but only when setup by a skilled operator with many years of professional training with a valid HPLC method and proper settings will the data be of use to you.
The above process will also save you the most time and teach you an important skill (**how to work with other scientists who have the years of experience in areas outside of your own).
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I recently conducted a liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry (LC-MS) analysis of my protein sample, which resulted in the identification of over 300 proteins. I need assistance in identifying any novel proteins within this dataset. Can someone guide me through the necessary steps and offer insights on how to interpret the results?
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Contact me
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I am currently facing a challenge in the LC-MS analysis of a highly hydrophobic peptide (already purified to >98% by a manufacturer) on our 1260 LC-MS System.
The experimental setup involved running a gradient of 5-80% ACN over 30 minutes on an analytical column (C18, 95Å, 4.6 x 50 mm, 5 µm). I injected 1, 2, 5, and 50 µl from a sample with a concentration of approximately 0.5 µg/µl (prepared in either 100% Methanol or 80% ACN+20%H2O+0.1%FA).
However, I observed multiple peaks at retention times between 21-24 minutes with my expected m/z in the Total Ion Current (TIC) MS. Interestingly, there were no UV peaks at either 220 or 280 nm (see pic).
Has anyone else observed such behavior (i.e., broad peaks in MS with no UV signal) with any highly hydrophobic peptide or compound?
I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or tips to resolve this issue and achieve a single peak in both TIC and UV (220nm) for this highly hydrophobic peptide.
P.S.: I can observe a single peak in both MS (TIC) and UV (220nm) with my water-soluble hydrophilic peptide, indicating that the LC-MS System is functioning properly with the chosen mobile phases (A: 0.1% TFA/water, B: 0.1% TFA).
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
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I would suggest an initial UV scan to figure out whether zhe peptide absorbs UV light, however I don’t believe that you see an obvious peak due to the missing aromatich aas. If it is almost pure, why do you need to load it on column? I think you should consider the infusion of the peptide directly to ms
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I'm trying to develop a LC-ESI-HRMS/MS method for the analysis of triacylglycerols in drying oils and paints, however I struggle with removing TAG contamination in blanks. After trying almost everything, I'm stuck.
I'm working with a Thermo Vanquish UHPLC, Waters 150 x 2.1 x 1.7 BEH C18 column and Thermo Orbitrap Exactive Plus. Mobile phase A: 60:40 H2O:ACN + 0.1%FA + 10 mM NH4Ac mobile phase B: 90:10 IPA:ACN + 0.1% FA + 10 mM NH4Ac
After a few injections of diluted oil samples I started to notice carry over occurring in blank injection. I first thought, this was caused by a weak washing solvent, however when changing to 100% IPA, peaks where still visible.
I have tried the following steps, without success:
- flushed the UPLC with different solvent mixtures according to the Waters LC-MS guide
- flush multiple times with 100% IPA (+ column)
- changing the column multiple times
- bypassing the autosampler/pre-heater/divert-valve to MS
- change the entire HESI-source by another HESI-source
- clean the ion sweep cone, ion capillary with IPA in ultrasonic bath and replace the O-ring
- increase the temperature of the HESI source to 'bake out'
- changing the mobile phase by fresh mobile phase
- changing mobile phase A to 80:20 ACN:H2O
- remove the FA in the mobile phases
- clean needle seat with IPA in ultrasonic bath
However, I still see signal when I run a zero injection while bypassing the autosampler, pre-heater and the divert-valve.
Any suggestions on what could be the cause/solution?
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It is better to clean the MS system by using Alconox...mild and MS spec compatible detergent is efficient in removing aggressive contaminants such as sticky and hydrophobic moieties...
Disassemble all configurations which have a role in ion flux including the quadrupole if possible (it is applicable for Exploris and Qexactive). Follow the maintenance guide to avoid any failure...
For LC it is better to replace the tubings, valves, injection needle, and loop but since you figured out this is not related to the autosampler only replacing the tubings with new ones may be applicable.
Instead of zero injection or preview run just collect the data using infusion mode to see if there is any TAG signal at your MS spectrum. This will clarify the residue that exists in MS or LC...
Besides you may inject lipase at the desired pH and buffer composition several times to convert TAGs to more cleanable counterparts (e.g. glycerol and fatty acids) if the interference is available at your LC configuration...
Best...
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Have you tried using negative mode?
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