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Immunoprecipitation is the aggregation of soluble ANTIGENS with ANTIBODIES, alone or with antibody binding factors such as ANTI-ANTIBODIES or STAPHYLOCOCCAL PROTEIN A, into complexes large enough to fall out of solution.
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Hi,
i am having trouble with immunoblotting for HIF1a, and would like to have some tips from you guys. i have tried 4-12% SDS gel, dried/fast and wet transfer both, using Anti-Hif1a from R&D but cannot blot it. These cell do express and have HIF1a proteins. lysis buffer; i am using normal RIPA buffer including PI and phosphotases inhibitors.
would be thankful for your help.
regards  
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Muhammad Zahoor thank you so much
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Hello everyone,
I'm planning a kinase assay and would really appreciate insights, suggestions, or links to protocols/papers that describe similar experiments.
Here’s what I want to do:
  • I have a purified His-tagged substrate protein.
  • I’ve cloned and am expressing a kinase protein in E. coli (BL21-DE3 or similar). I do not plan to purify the kinase—just use the cell lysate directly after overexpression.
  • I want to incubate the E. coli lysate (containing the kinase) with my purified substrate protein and see if it gets phosphorylated.
My specific questions:
  1. Has this approach (using crude lysate with overexpressed kinase + purified substrate) been published before? I'd love to see some examples or detailed protocols.
  2. Do I need to worry about endogenous E. coli kinases or phosphatases? Or would including controls like lysate from cells with empty vector be sufficient?
  3. What are good buffer conditions for the in vitro kinase reaction (e.g., ATP concentration, cofactors like Mg²⁺/Mn²⁺, phosphatase inhibitors)?
  4. Would it be better to immunoprecipitate the kinase before the assay? Or is using crude lysate acceptable for early screening?
  5. What are effective readouts for phosphorylation in this kind of setup—radioactive ATP, phospho-specific antibodies, Pro-Q Diamond staining, Phos-tag gels, etc.?
My goal is to test whether the overexpressed kinase can phosphorylate my substrate before proceeding to purify the kinase. The substrate protein is stable and already purified.
If you’ve done something similar or know of published methods, I’d be very grateful for your input!
Thanks in advance for your help.
Best, Kaustubh Prakash
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Once I purified the kinase CDK7 and cyclin H from E. coli, but they cannot phosphorylate my substrate protein. Then, I purified the kinase from human cells, and they can phosphorylate my substrate protein.
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I am doing an immunoprcipitation of a 97KDa protein from mammalian cells. IP is done according to standard protocol (IgG and protein G bead system is used). After IP, when I run a western blot, I see that the protein in the pulldown sample runs at a little but distinctly higher molecular weight than the input sample. It is not a non-specific pull down because the IgG control remains blank. Can someone suggest a possible explanation?
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I have also got the same result but not by immunoprecipitation, in my western from the plant tissue where I did western from endogenous protein, I am getting ~47kDa band, but the actual size of my protein of interest is ~43kDa (~389aa). Is it possible that the protein of interest in my case is going any PTM?
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I transfected COS-7 cells with my plasmids of interest and performed co-IP using mouse anti-GFP for IP and mouse anti-myc for IB. I got positive results, confirming that my proteins of interest interact. However, as expected, I also observed two extra bands in the co-IP samples corresponding to the heavy and light chains of the anti-mouse antibody, since both antibodies are from the same species.
To avoid these extra bands, I repeated the experiment using mouse anti-GFP for IP and rabbit anti-myc for IB. However, I observed nonspecific bands in all samples, including co-IP, input, and control (non-transfected), as shown in the image. Does anyone know why this is happening?
I tried blocking with non-fat skim milk and BSA, separately, but the issue persisted.
Thank you in advance!
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Hello, Khalood,
To avoid interference from heavy and light chains in an IP experiment, you can choose one of the following approaches:
  1. Use antibodies from different species for IP and IB to prevent cross-reactivity.
  2. Use a secondary antibody in IB that specifically targets the light chain, thereby avoiding detection of the heavy chain.
  3. If the heavy and light chains do not interfere with the target band, optimization may not be necessary. In this case, an isotype control can be included to confirm that any additional bands are due to the heavy or light chain.
Hope this helpful! Feel free to reach out for any questions.
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I am using HEK293 cell line and following this protocol from Abcam:
Up to sonication, my protocol is optimised, and i am getting fragments between 200-500 bp (image attached),
After sonication, I took 100 ul of the sonicated samples and did immunoprecipitation. i used 5ug of Cl8Wg16 antibody against RNA Pol II [it is a test experiment so used to most common possible]
In the end, I used Qiagen PCR purification kit and eluted immunoprecipitated DNA in 30 ul of EB. For samples, i am getting "DNA too low to be detected" and for 2% input control i am getting 5-6 ng/ul of DNA.
If you know ChIP and don't help me, I will really cry now!!
please email me Pradip.Karmakar@warwick.ac.uk or reply to this post or message on instagram @pradip_the_great.
thank you in advance,
-Pradip
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It is not uncommon to get a very low/undetectable yield after ChIP. It does not mean it failed, and the quantity (in ng) of DNA is not proportional to the quality of your sample (at least it's not in my hands...).
To know if your ChIP has worked, you need to check by qPCR the enrichment of a region you know your target binds to versus a region you know it does not bind (signal over ratio). It is also a good idea, since you are setuping up the experiment, to add a negative control (Igg antibody).
Also, I've never heard of using PCR purification columns to extract DNA at the end of the experiment, you might want to perform a regular phenol extraction instead.
Good luck !
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Hello everyone, does anyone have a protocol for immunoprecipitation and preparation of IP product for mass spectrometry? Specifically using Dynabeads Protein A or G?
Thank you in advance
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The elution buffer may work differently for different proteins. If HPLC is an option, it would be effective for more complex mixtures with less abundant proteins. Perhaps someone has coupled dynabeads with HPLC. Otherwise, if you can't submit them in glycine elution buffer, the ultracentrifuge shouldn't give you much loss. Good luck.
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I am trying to isolate RNA from stress granules, these were obtained using immunoprecipitation, but the amount of RNA and sometimes the quality is not good enough.
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Rduce viscosity, such as dilution with lysis buffer, extensive mechanical disruption, and centrifugation, will increase RNA yield.
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Good morning colleagues,
I want to share with you my results, hoping that someone could help me to find a possible explanation.
In the picture you can notice a 1% agarose gel where I run PCR amplicons of a gene promoter. In detail, I started from a best prognosis (left) and a worst prognosis (right) primary cell line, I fixed them with formaldehyde, lysed, extracted the DNA and performed chromatin enzymatic shearing with micrococcal nuclease; then I immunoprecipitated it with histone marks indicated in the lower part of the picture. Ultimately, I designed PCR primers to detect the presence of the amplicon in the immunoprecipitated chromatin.
As you can notice, I can observe the amplicon bands (almost 250bp), but in some histone marks IP I can also see higher bp bands which are difficult to interpretate. I exclude an aspecific amplification, as it doesn't happen in all IP bands and the primers I used should be specific for my region of interest.
Do you have any suggestion or interpretation? Have you ever encountered such a problem in your experience?
Thank you in advance
Jacopo
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Hi!
I think sending these longer bands for Sanger sequencing anb then BLAST'ing the sequence obtained might be a good option.
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Lanes 1 to 8 from left to right represent protein from chondrocyte cell line. I ip'd with 5ug of antibody both igg and sox9 from 450ug of total protein. I have no input control as I ran out of protein. I've also attached the coomassie blue staining that I did POST transfer. Thanks again.
1: IP with sox9
2: IP with igg
3: IP with sox9
4: IP with igg:
5: IP with sox9
6: IP with igg
7: IP with sox9
8: IP with igg
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Either you have overloaded the gel (to much total protein per lane) or the salt concetration of the samples is to high.
The first: try to load half or 25% of the sample.
2nd: after the final washing of the IP-samples take the beads up in 25 ul 1x Laemmly (or whatever running buffer you prefer).
Good luck
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Hello all,
I am currently doing Dot Blots to confirm that my antibody is present after an Immunoprecipitant run and for some reason my signal is coming through in the FT and Wash but not in the Elution. My colleague and I are hypothesizing that the antibody we are testing for is stuck to the beads that we are using (AVIDIN for the 1st antibody and HRP for the 2nd) but we are not quite sure if this is the case or if something else is occurring. The kit we are using for Immunoprecipitating is a Thermo Pierce Classic IP kit. We don't know what else to do as we have been tweaking things like the pH for the Elution Buffer and we are kind of at a loss. The next thing we are going to try doing is modifying the wash agent by using 1x PBS but we aren't sure if that will solve anything. Does anyone have insight to this problem or perhaps a similar experience? Sorry this is my first time using ResearchGate so I hope my question comes across clearly.
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So I tried using 1xPBS with our method and unfortunately it yielded unsatisfactory results. I will try modifying the procedures with the additional suggestions provided and see if anything is yielded next week.
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Hi everyone,
I recently conducted an immunoprecipitation (IP) experiment to isolate my protein of interest, which has a molecular weight of around 25-28 kDa. To minimize interference from IgG chains, I used a TrueBlot secondary antibody. However, I am unsure if my target protein was successfully precipitated, as I still observe strong double bands around the 25-28 kDa range. Additionally, I was unable to detect any co-immunoprecipitated proteins.
Could anyone suggest possible reasons for these issues or provide tips on how to improve my results? Any advice for troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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My previous answer was incomplete; the restriction not to use true blot antibody for IP/western is for True Blot rabbit secondary antibody .
as true blot recognize only native IgG it is important to fully denaturate your sample to eliminate cross-reactivity with heavy and light chains.
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Hello,
I'm looking at immunoprecipitating our flag tagged protein in a chondrocyte cell line derived from mouse. So I need recommendations for a good IP antibody for flag produced in rabbit that could also be used for the subsequent western blot. Any recommendations would be much appreciated. Thank you.
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I am not an expert in this field, but I am very interested and have researched to find an answer. I received some assistance from tlooto.com for this response. Could you please review the response below to see if it is correct?
A highly recommended rabbit-produced antibody for immunoprecipitation (IP) and subsequent western blotting of FLAG-tagged proteins in mouse-derived chondrocyte cell lines is the Anti-FLAG® M2 antibody from Sigma-Aldrich. This antibody demonstrates high affinity and specificity for FLAG-tagged proteins, making it suitable for capturing and detecting these proteins in various applications, including IP and western blotting [1][2][3][4]. The Anti-FLAG® M2 monoclonal antibody is widely used due to its ability to bind both N-terminal and C-terminal FLAG tags without requiring calcium-dependent conditions, ensuring reliable and consistent results [5][6].
Reference
[1] Brizzard, B., Chubet, R., & Vizard, D. (1994). Immunoaffinity purification of FLAG epitope-tagged bacterial alkaline phosphatase using a novel monoclonal antibody and peptide elution.. BioTechniques, 16 4, 730-5 .
[2] Knappik, A., & Plückthun, A. (1994). An improved affinity tag based on the FLAG peptide for the detection and purification of recombinant antibody fragments.. BioTechniques, 17 4, 754-61 .
[3] Ferrando, R., Newton, K., Chu, F., Webster, J., & French, D. (2015). Immunohistochemical Detection of FLAG-Tagged Endogenous Proteins in Knock-In Mice. Journal of Histochemistry & Cytochemistry, 63, 244 - 255.
[4] Verhagen, A. (2006). Using FLAG Epitope-Tagged Proteins for Coimmunoprecipitation of Interacting Proteins.. CSH protocols, 2006 5.
[5] Itakura, E., Chen, C., & Bono, M. d. (2017). Purification of FLAG-tagged Secreted Proteins from Mammalian Cells.. Bio-protocol, 7 15.
[6] Zhang, L., Uder, S., Juehne, T., Brizzard, B., & Song, K. (2002). Nonradioactive assay of FLAG-tagged MAPK using ANTI-FLAG antibody-coated multiwell plates.. BioTechniques, 32 2, 442-7 .
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We are currently interested in performing a stimulation protocol on brain slices in order to perform western blotting or immunoprecipitation. However, we do not know how many 300 um slices would be necessary to obtain an adequate protein concentration. If anyone has done something similar or has a reference article I would appreciate the information.
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Hi Xavier,
Based on my BCA assay calculations, I typically get ~1.5 mg of protein from 20 mg of cortical brain tissue (adult rat). This is from the supernatant collected following the lysis and homogenisation steps. I would imagine this varies based on your sample type and the preparation method, but I hope that provides some indication.
Best wishes!
Stephanie
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Hello, fellow researchers,
We are currently investigating the role of gut microbiota-derived tryptophan metabolite indole in attenuating inflammation in epithelial cells. Our preliminary findings suggest that indole conjugated to BSA (indole-BSA) interacts with specific cell surface receptors. We aim to identify these receptors by treating cells with indole-BSA, followed by membrane protein isolation and immunoprecipitation.
Experimental Approach:
  1. Cell Treatment: Cells are treated with indole-BSA to facilitate the interaction with cell surface receptors.
  2. Membrane Protein Isolation: We plan to use the ProteoExtract® Native Membrane Protein Extraction Kit (Merck, 444810) for isolating membrane proteins.
  3. Immunoprecipitation: Post-extraction, we intend to perform immunoprecipitation using anti-BSA antibodies to isolate the indole-BSA receptor complexes.
Challenge and Request for Advice: We are considering the critical step of crosslinking indole-BSA to the membrane receptors before extraction, ensuring that the interactions are preserved during the isolation process. However, we are in need of guidance on the most effective method for crosslinking in this context. Here are our specific questions:
  • What are the recommended crosslinking agents and protocols for ensuring stable interactions between indole-BSA and the cell surface receptors?
  • Are there any considerations or adjustments needed when using the ProteoExtract® kit post-crosslinking?
  • Would anyone recommend alternative or supplementary techniques to better identify and analyze the interacting receptors?
We are open to suggestions, improvements, and any insights that could help refine our approach. We would greatly appreciate your expertise and experiences in similar methodologies or relevant studies.
Thank you in advance for your time and input.
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Another approach would be to make a resin with indole-BSA covalently attached to it. Resins for this purpose are commercially available. Then the extracted membrane proteins could be mixed with the resin and, after washing the resin, the remaining proteins that bind to indole-BSA could be eluted and analyzed by proteomic techniques. As a control, you could use a resin with regular BSA attached.
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I am planning an immunoprecipitation experiment using Mouse monoclonal [11C9] to Mannan Binding Lectin/MBL (ab26277) antibody to immunoprecipitate for MBL2 in human serum. There are many protocols online for immunoprecipitation utilising cell cultures, where the recommended amount of cells tends to be 10^6 to 10^7, however not so many that utilise human serum.
Reading online, the optimal total protein load of immunoprecipitation seems to be 1-5 mg/mL, with 0.1 mg/mL being the minimum recommended load. Considering that the normal range for total protein in human serum is 60-83g/L (average: 71.5 g/L), loading 5 mg of total protein for immunoprecipitation would mean I need 69.9 mL. Alternatively, loading the minimum (0.1 mg), I would need 1.395 mL of human serum based on my calculations.
I cannot afford to be using 1.395 mL of human serum in my experiment due to lack of sample volume. I was wondering if anyone can share the amount of human serum they've used for immunoprecipitation before, where it was successful. Thank you in advance.
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You're correct that Ab often perform quite differently in Western versus ELISA. But it's something you can try.
What makes you think your antiserum works at all? if you have any titer measurement you can use that to estimate a working dilution for IP.
Or you could always just guess. A dilution of 1:1000 should work, if the antiserum is reasonably potent. You may be able to go down to 1/10k or 1/100k.
Follow your local rules for use of human tissue in lab research. I recommend you always heat treat human serum to kill viruses, and then still treat the reagent as potentially infectious. My niece caught HepB from handling a human serum sample is a hospital lab.
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Note: Serum isolated extracellular vesicles using immunoprecipitation (magnetic beads)
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Dear Dr. Alaa Selim
EVs from biofluids may be stored at -80 degree C for a period ranging from 7-14 days. It may not affect the protein content during this period of storage.
You may want to refer to the articles attached below.
Regards,
Malcolm Nobre
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I am trying to look at ubiquitination levels for a protein. I use a rabbit polyclonal antibody to immunoprecipitate the protein and then use a mouse monoclonal ubiquitin antibody to do the western. I have tried variations in the protocol but it seems that I always detect bands that have a lower molecular weight than my protein instead of getting higher molecular weight bands that would correspond to the ubiquitinated form of my protein. I tried using a mouse monoclonal antibody for the IP but it gives a lot of non specific bands. I don't have a lot of the polyclonal antibody so I don't know if purifying it would be a good idea. I have tried blocking the beads in 5% BSA, making the antibody-bead complex before adding the lysate but I still get the same results. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could modify the IP protocol to get better results?
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Were you able to solve the issue?
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I conducted a co-immunoprecipitation using protein X antibody to determine if protein X is attached to protein Y. However, the results of my experiments were unusual. To ensure that the procedure was performed correctly, I conducted a control co-immunoprecipitation using protein Y antibody and another antibody that is not specific, which we'll refer to as Z. For the co-immunoprecipitation, I used Dynabeads™ Protein G and confirmed the proteins using WB.
The co-immunoprecipitation experiment using X antibody to pull out Y showed positive results for both X and Y. However, when the experiment was conducted using Y antibody to pull out X, it showed positive results only for Y and no X at all. Additionally, the immunoprecipitation of X and Y using Z antibody (which is nonspecific) showed positive results for both X and Y but the concentration was very weak. This suggests that there might be some issues with the experimental procedure. Can you suggest any measures to confirm the results with proper controls?
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Hi Shimaa, it is not uncommon for co-IPs to only work in one direction. There can be a number of reasons such as the antibody and the interacting protein competing for the same binding site or different sensitivities of the respective antibodies. If it's possible, you may want to try a different antibody to your Y protein or move the tag if you are using one. Additionally, another good control would be to use your X antibody to conduct an IP in the absence of X protein expression to make sure that your pull-down of Y is dependent on its interaction with X (this only works if X is overexpressed or can be silenced).
Regarding your binding when you use a non-specific antibody, a lot of proteins will exhibit some degree of non-specific in IPs. If the levels are extremely low relative to the levels in the specific IP, this can usually be ignored. If it's a problem, you can try optimizing your wash step or pre-blocking the beads in BSA to see if you can reduce the non-specific binding.
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Hi there,
I am trying to optimise an immunoprecipitation experiment, where I am attempting to pull down protein X and see if protein Y comes with it. My problem is that I am detecting protein Y in my control IgG IP.
I am using the Pierce magnetic protein A/G beads, lysis buffer [TBS, 150mM NaCl, 1% Triton, protease and phosphatase inhibitors] and wash buffer [TBS, 500mM Nacl, 0.05% Tween]. Lysates are pre-cleaned with blank beads prior to IP. For the experiment I perform a negative control (beads + no antibody), a positive control (beads + rabbit IgG) and an experimental IP (beads + rabbit antibody against protein X). After the IP I perform three washes (1 min each), followed by a water wash, and elution in 60'C 1X laemmli.
When I probe the membrane with a mouse antibody against protein Y, I see a band of the correct molecular weight in the WCE lane and my experimental IP lane, but also in the rabbit IgG lane. The bead-only negative control is clear, so it is not binding to the beads or the tube.
I have validated that the band the protein Y antibody detects by WB (approx. 110 kDa) is specific, using siRNA knockdown. I am limited in that I cannot use another protein Y antibody for detection, so I need to try and fix the issue if possible.
Things I have tried:
  • Increasing the Tween concentration in the wash buffer to 0.2% did not fix the issue
  • Using other rabbit antibodies against eg. HA, Myc and irrelevant proteins all pull down protein Y.
  • Other proteins (such as GAPDH and protein X) do not seem to be coming down with the rabbit IgG to the same extent. I can see very faint bands if I overexpose the membrane, but nowhere near as strong as the band I see for protein Y. Protein Y is particularly sticky it seems!
Has anyone encountered this problem before? Any suggestions on what to change to remove this non-specific binding to antibodies?
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
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Hey! How did you able to solve this problem? I am facing exact same problem with my protein of interest.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi. I ran the western blot of my immunoprecipitated sample. I don't know why my protein band appears like a smear?
what could be the possible reason? I loaded 3% of input that is cell lysate and bound protein after IP.
I have attached the blot image. Please suggest me the how to solve this
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Thank you all for your immediate response. I would like to share the western blot image of serial dilution of my protein. So, I found that due to the vast number protein in the cell lysate, the antibody couldn't detect the protein in the cell lysate. When I load the different dilution of my cell lysate, I could see the expression clearly.
Thank you all for your feedback and explanations.
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i am getting huge backgrounds from Immunoprecipitation samples when I probe with my antibody of interest from western blot. i am using Dynabeads. Can anyone help me troubleshoot.
thank you
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After incubation with primary antibody overnight try soaking the membranes in TBST for 30 mins followed by washing while rocking for one hour. this will decrease the back ground Sonia Marina
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Hello, I have been performing immunoprecipitation assay to understand whether a protein is SUMOylated or not. After overexpression of target protein and extraction of total cell lysate, I carry out immunoprecipitation by targeting the tag of the vector and use SUMO specific antibody for Western blotting. I detect SUMOylation all the while, however, input band and IP band are observed at the same kDa. Also, I check the precipitation on the same membrane by using tag antibody and the detected bands (with both SUMO and tag antibodies) are always overlapped. There is not a shift band even though the protein is SUMOylated. Is there anyone have experienced anything like that before? Is that a normal result for immunoprecipitation detection of SUMOylation? Thanks in advance...
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I also meet the same problem as you did. IP with SUMO antibody, detected with my target protein antibody, which results in input band and IP band are observed at the same kDa of my target protein. Did you resolved you problem? Hope to here your solution.
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Hi everyone! I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience with the Dynabeads Protein G immunoprecipitation kit (#10007D) from Invitrogen. I'm working on a project that involves immunoprecipitating microsomes from plant tissue using custom-made polyclonal antibodies from the same company. However, I'm having some trouble with the kit. The protein concentration of the purified samples is too low to be measured by the Bradford assay. Most of the proteins seem to stay in the no-binding fraction and don't bind to the magnetic beads. When I do a Western blot with my microsomes, the antibodies can recognize the bands. But when I use them for Dynabeads immunoprecipitation, they don't capture anything. I have tried adding different amounts of Triton X-100 to the microsomes before immunoprecipitation, but it didn't make any difference. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to improve the binding efficiency of the kit? I would really appreciate any advice or tips. Thank you so much!
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Hi,
sorry to hear about the challenges. below are some general tips to consider
Amount of Ab used
  • The binding efficiency dependents on the bead used and the Ab subclass, e.g. IgG1 will bind efficiently to Prot G but to less extent to Prot A beads. When incubating your Dynabeads™ coated with Ab with the lysate containing the target one has to optimize that as this will depend on the primary Abs affinity for the Ag.
  • The elution efficiency depends on the volume. Increased volume results in higher elution efficiency. e.g. increasing the elution volume from 20 µL to 100 µL increased elution efficiency by 20 % in in-house experiments. However, this needs to be optimized for each immunoprecipitation.
  • Amount of Prim Ab. I would recommend titrating this. In general, between 1-10 µg Ab per 50 µL Dynabeads™ (per IP). The yield of target will depend on how good your prim Ab is.
Low binding
  • Verify binding/specificity of your antibody to your antigen, e.g., by ELISA.
  • Check the binding of your antibodies to the beads. If the antibodies are not captured and bound to the beads, the immunoprecipitation experiment will not work.
  • If you have used the indirect method, try the direct method. Conversely, if you have used the direct method, try the indirect method.
  • Check the amount of beads and sample volume. With reference to the capacity of different beads proposed in the package inserts, increase the amount of beads or the concentration of your antibody during coupling.
  • Increase the incubation time. If the target protein is dilute or has a low binding efficiency to the antibody the protein binding time might be extended to 1 hr or longer,
  • Try another antibody.
Non-specific binding
  • Use more stringent washing buffer for washing.
  • Add a non-ionic detergent (Tween-20 or Triton X-100) to the washing buffer, in concentrations between 0.01-0.1.
  • If the beads are blocked before precipitation, add identical blocker to the washing buffer.
  • Increase the number of washing steps.
  • Prolong the washing steps.
  • Decrease incubation time (beads and sample).
  • Try the indirect method.
  • Decrease the antibody concentration.
  • A pre-clearing step may be performed to remove molecules that non-specifically bind to the protein A/protein G or the beads themselves.
kind regards
ketil
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I want to do MALDI-TOF mass for my protein. For its procedure I need to do bis tris electrophoresis of immunoprecipitated protein, then excise protein band. For running bis tris electrophoresis, I need to solve my protein in LDS sample buffer, but I think that would i replace SDS with LDS in this buffer? Is it too different for doing mass spect?
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You may replace LDS and SDS for PAGE. It is not applicable for mass spec whether lithium or sodium salt. Li-cor uses LDS in PAGE products and applications they recommend LDS instead of SDS due to enhanced solubility but also more applicable for plant proteomic research. For MS getting rid of all types of dodecyl salts and in-gel digestion by applying wash replicates after excising the band would be an efficient protocol.
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Can someone explain the difference between a whole cell lysate sample, input sample, and eluate sample when you are running an IP via western blot?
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Cell lysates= when you done induction and expression after that you have lyse the cells with Tris, Nacl and glycerol. The lysed cells are called cell lysates.
After the lysed cells you have proceed for chromatography or Western blot. The amount of lysed cells you have used for chromatography or Western is the Input sample.
At last you get some amount of your desired product is known as Elution or eluted samples.
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Hello,
Can Alexa Fluor 488 Polyclonal Antibody be used to immunoprecipitate proteins? Has someone tried it or has experience with this?
Many thanks,
Julen.
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If you have labeled these proteins with Alexa 488 before: yes.
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Hi,
I‘m having an issue with some ChIP experiments I have been doing with a GFP antibody and protein A dynabeads. I’m basically incubating overnight with my antibody and then using protein A dynabeads to pull down the following day. My problem is that when I switch from my binding buffer (50mM HEPES 7.5, 20 mM NaCl, 1mM EDTA, 1% Triton-X-100, 0.1% sodium deoxycholate, protease inhibs) to my first wash buffer (50mM HEPES 7.4, 140 mM NaCl, 1mM EDTA, 1% Triton-X-100, 0.01% sodium deoxycholate) the beads aggregate and clump together but only in my tagged strain and not in my untagged negative control. This persists through all of my washes (0.5M NaCl buffer and 250 mM LiCl buffer) but gets much better when I do the final wash in TE. All of my washes are done at 4 degrees and the buffers were kept on ice. This has repeated several times now.
My qPCR results don’t seem completely off but the background I’m getting at loci where my protein really shouldn’t be (euchromatic regions) is quite high. I think this is because the beads aren’t being washed adequately because of the aggregation.
The pic below shows the aggregation. left is my negative control (untagged IP), right is my tagged strain.
Has anyone else noticed anything like this with dynabeads and found a solution?
any suggestions welcome! Thanks in advance!
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Hi, I'm struggling with exactly the same problem now.
If you found the reason or solution, I want to know,,,
Please give me some comments.
Thank you!
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Hi,
I am trying to demonstrate a protein-protein interaction through co-IP. To IP, I use a mouse IgG isotype control and a lab-generated mouse antibody to protein X. When I do WB, I use rabbit-generated antibody from Cell Signaling as well as their mouse-anti- rabbit conformation specific secondary (L27A9). In theory, I should not see IgG bands due to using antibodies generated in different hosts and the conformation specific secondary. However, it appears there are IgG bands both in the isotype control and the sample. Shown here, 500ug total protein was used in the IP with 10ug ms antibody. Antigen was allowed to bind beads for 1hr RT while rotating. I eluted in 40 uL total 1x LDS buffer with 5% 2-ME boiled >95C for 10 minutes. My proteins of interest are protein x (~25 kDA with the antibody we use to detect) and protein y (forms various complexes or in free form, ~65 kDA, 55 kDA, 17 kDA free, or 8 kDA free). The input band should be 55 kDA as this is the most prevalent form. My labmates use the same Ms isotype control, ms protein x primary, and secondary with no issues. I have run my protocol by them and they do not see a reason explaining the background.
Lanes L-R: protein x KO cells (IP with protein x), protein x KO cells (IP with IgG), Protein X input (20ug), protein x over-expressing (IP with protein x), protein x over-expressing (IP with IgG), protein x over-expressing input (20ug).
Does anyone have any idea as to why there appear to be heavy and light chain bands here? What can I do to reduce background? Any ideas or advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance!
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Materials for IP:
1) Dynabeads M‐280 Sheep Anti‐Mouse IgG coated magnetic beads (#11201D, Invitrogen, Inc.) 100uL (binding capacity is up to 8ug per 100ul of beads)
2) A lab-generated mouse antibody to protein X (8ug)
3) IgG isotype Negative control
4) Protein X
5) Glycine pH 2.5
6) 1.5M Tris pH 8.8
7) Sample mixer
8) Wash buffer 1X PBS-T (0.01% Tween 20)
IP step 1 incubation of beads with primary AB: Take 100uL of magnetic beads, 5uL of 100x BSA (final concentration 100ug/mL), 8ug of primary Antibody and 390uL 1X PBS-T (0.01% Tween 20) (final volume is 500uL) and incubate at RT for 1h with gentle rotation.
After incubation, briefly spin the tubes (few seconds), and put on the magnetic stand for 2 min. Discard the supernatant. Wash the beads 3x with 1mL cold 1X PBS-T (0.01% Tween 20).
IP step 2: Use 500ul of Protein X sample and incubate with magnetic beads and mouse AB at RT for 1h with gentle rotation.
After incubation, briefly spin the tubes and put on the magnetic stand. Collect the flow through (FT) and store it at -20C. Wash the beads 3 times with 1mL cold 1X PBS-T (0.01% Tween 20).
IP step 3: Elute the samples by incubating with 100µL of 100mM Glycine pH 2.5 (add glycine buffer, gently vortex, spin briefly, incubate for 5 min, then put on the magnetic stand), collect ELUTION sample to a fresh tube and neutralize with 5µL of 1.5M Tris pH 8.8 (the final pH is in 7.5-8.0 range).
Prepare LDS with DTT samples followed by heating at 60C for 10min. Run Western blot to detect the elution samples and use IgG Isotype as negative control.
Hope this helps.
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I am working on immunoprecipitation to check the interaction of proteins, but I found more instance bands in IgG similar to specific Ab after precleaning. Also, I also use different IgG ab and find the same results. Can someone help me to troubleshoot the problem?
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Anurag
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Thanks a lot to all of you
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Dear all,
I am looking for a commercially available pull down assay kit that has conducive buffer conditions and high affinity for the antibody conjugation. My protein of interest (bait) shows a very low binding with the prey and so is there any enhancer that can give good signal for sub-nanomolar concentration ? As I have been using protein A dyna bead from Invitrogen, and every time I see non specific heavy chain of the protein Ig in the western blot. Then to get around the later issue, I used True Blot secondary Antibody, however I can still see huge blob for the Ig heavy chain from the bead. So, if any one can suggest to sort out these two issues with my pull down assay, it would be a great help.
Thank you
With kind regards
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You could also think about using PICO to detect your protein of interest.
Here is a video how it works and the link to the shop:
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For detection of phosphotyrosine level of a particular protein in a cell lysate, there seem to be two options:
  1. Immunoprecipitate the protein of interest, run on a gel and probe with a pan anti-pTyr antibody.
  2. Run total protein on a gel and probe with two antibodies: one for the protein of interest, the other for the pTyr-modified protein of interest.
Method two depends on there being available an antibody to the pTyr-modified protein and a dual detection system, such as fluorescence at two wavelengths (since the modified and non-modified bands are likely to overlap on the gel.)
I guess that the immunoprecipitation method is more adaptable to different proteins of interest. Other than that, is one method better than the other (eg greater accuracy)? Is normalisation better in method 2 since you can normalise pTyr signal against protein of interest signal?
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Thanks all for your informative answers.
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I want to overexpress PD-L1 in HEK293 to do immunoprecipitation.
I designed a pcDNA3.1 within N-terminal 6xHis full-length PD-L1 and transfected it into HEK293T by PEI. I used RIPA to get 293 cell lysate. However, I can't get PD-L1 band in WB experiments.
Please help me find some possible solutions.
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Thank you everyone! I have checked cell lysate by His-antibody and PD-L1 antibody. The results showed that His-tag was removed from protein so I can't detect His-PD-L1 by his-antibody in WB experiments.
PD-L1 has a signaling peptide in 1-24 amino acids, so the His-tag before signaling peptide will be removed together in cell. I should put the tag in C-terminal or after signaling peptide.
Thanks agian! Hope my experience will help others.
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1. Is TMEM192 the only selectable protein in LysoIP?
2. If I'm going to do LysoIP, should I make sure the TMEM192 protein expression do not change first?
3. After LysoIP, if I want to confirm other protein expression in the lysosomes, which protein can be used as an internal reference when LAMP1 increased after treatment?
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1. I've never done this kind of assay, but I saw most of paper that have done LysoIP use 3xHA-TMEM192.
2. I have no idea about that.
3. Maybe you can switch into Lamp2.
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Hi, I have been doing some immunoprecipitation (IP) work and no matter what I do I cannot get rid of the IgG heavy chain that I see on the western blot. I am blotting for an antibody called XRCC4 which is at 55 kDa, the IgG heavy chain is around 50 kDa and it completely masks everything up. I have bough Clean-Blot™ IP Detection Kit (HRP) which on paper should have helped. However, it has only partially cleaned it up some of the lanes. Would anyone have any further suggestions I could use.
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Hi,
2 ways possible here as far as i can see:
  • covalently conjugate the capture Ab to the surface of magnetic beads - such as the Dynabeads Ab coupling kit
  • use non-covalent Ab binding to beads such as the Dynabeads Protein A/Dynabeads Protein G or DynaGreen Protein A or A/G. here the Abs will be eluted off but if combined with TrueBlot HRP labeled Sec Ab for WB - they will not recognize heavy or light chain Abs on the blot.
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I am trying to detect an endogenous protein of around 135KDa by Coomassie or Silver Stain for a downstream analysis. My immunoprecipitation works well, and the protein seems highly enriched in Western Blot, but I have so far been unable to detect it by staining the SDS gel directly even after pooling multiple lPs. Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.
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No, you should see the immunoprecipitated protein as the strongest bend except for heavy and light chains coming from the antibody (which should be the same in IgG control). I usually see the precipitated protein after staining the nitrocellulose membrane with Ponceau S. Maybe the endogenous expression of your target protein is too low. Try changing the cell line.
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Hi everyone,
I was just wondering what's the difference between these two detergents in cell lysis buffer. And I am planning to use the cell lysate to do the GFP-trapped pull-down assay.
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Digitonin is a steroid detergent used to selectively permeabilise the (cholesterol-containing) plasma membrane. Given its high price and its toxicity, it is used only where needed. Triton X100 is a general purpose, non-ionic detergent that is used to solubilise membranes, prevent protein-protein interactions and "sticking" of proteins to vessel walls by hydrophobic interactions. In pull-down, it can prevent unspecific interactions and thereby give cleaner results. Often, other detergents with different properties are added for this purpose, this could include ionic detergents like SDS or steroid detergents.
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Hi,
I want to know whether my protein of interest (effector protein from bacteria) undergoes PTM in plant cells. I am thinking of performing immunoprecipitation and detecting the modification on specific amino acids using mass-spec.
As I don't have any experience using mass-spec, I wonder if anybody can recommend me a good commercial service for PTM identification or any protocol for this kind of experiment.
Thank you
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Ok, good luck with your work/project Kirankumar Nalla ! Thanks again for the recommendation.
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Hi, any idea how to analyse the results from IP?
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It uses the basic principle of antigen-antibody reaction where in classical agaraose gel-well assays or rocket assays can be mentioned as examples. However, the simple precipitins formed by this Ag-Ab reactions can used for isolation of specific components be it an antigen or an antibody.
Please see this link, its very useful for your understanding.
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Hi, I am running through chromatin immunoprecipitation. To reverse the cross-link after immunoprecipitation, the protocol calls for an overnight incubation at 65C. Due to some scheduling conflicts I was wondering if it's ok to store the eluted DNA for a couple of days before reversing the cross-link. Does anyone have any insight into this? Thank you.
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yes you can, for short term at 4C for few hours, for day or week at -20C will be better
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Hello,
I have performed a FLAG pull-down using anti-FLAG agarose beads. In loading westerns, I have depleted the loading-buffer-boiled lysate that is above the beads after a brief spin. I still have the beads portion of the loading-buffer-boiled lysate. Can I load this portion into SDS-PAGE to extend my sample for more westerns? Will the agarose beads have any negative effect on running the gel besides taking up volume from true lysate?
Thanks!
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Do I understand correctly that you want to load the remaining beads after having already loaded the supernatent? Then I would advise you to add fresh loading buffer to the remaining beads, boil and spin the samples again and load the supernatant. Of cause the bands will be weaker the second time.
I use a hamilton syringe and press the opening against the side of the tube, I find that easier then using a regular tip and pressing it to the bottom.
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Hi All:
I am trying to purify an endogenous protein. But the protein is known to have many other interacting proteins in the cell system I am working on. Is there any way I can decrease protein-protein interactions during IP, remove its interacting proteins, and purify my protein of interest alone? Thanks a lot for your help!
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A high salt concentration may be helpful when electrostatic interactions are involved. A detergent may be helpful when hydrophobic interactions are involved.
Some interactions are not strong enough to persist when there is a high degree of dilution, as in immunoprecipitation, with all the washes.
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We are trying to immunoprecipitate pectin recognized by the antibody JIM7. pH 2.5 glycine does not elute the pectin from the antibody tat is cross linked to a magnetic bead. We hesitate to use high pH elution buffers because they can deesterify and depolymerize pectin. Any suggestions?
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if your AB is sensitive then you can use lower pH acids, For AB detection, ELISA will be the best option.
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As an alternative to the usual IP approach of tagging a protein in cells (trypanosomes) and passing the lysate through affinity columns, which has been time-consuming and unsuccessful for my protein of interest, can I used a recombinant His-tagged protein (tryp protein expressed in bacteria), which I already have, immobilize this on Ni resin and then add cell lysate? Is it likely that protein interactors may bind to the immobilized recombinant protein under the right buffer conditions?
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If you are interested in an emzyme-substrate interaction, such an interaction is usually transient so, you might consider cross-linking proteins in your lysate before IP. Also using a mutant enzyme that can entrap/keep the substrate would be ideal (if practically available). Good luck!
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Hi everyone, I'm trying to isolate a protein using immunoprecipitation of a cell lysate. How can I decide if the amount of isolated protein is enough? I do protein quantification for that and the concentration is pretty low. I'll do a western to check if I was able to isolate the protein but with this low concentration of protein, I need a high volume of sample for western blot. So I'm wondering is there any other way to quantify isolated protein? And also is there a specific amount that I am supposed to have? Waiting for your opinions,
Thanks!!
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Thank you Deepdarshan Urs ,
I forgot to mention I"m using Thermo fisher BCA kit for protein quantification. So if it"s a good method, there is no problem. Also thank you for recommendation for the protein amount.
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Hello, all! I'm performing an experiment in which I'm doing a CoIP in the presence or absence of RNase to see if a protein-protein interaction is dependent on RNA. I am trying to identify a protein pair that is known to interact in an RNA-dependent manner, particularly in mouse embryonic stem cells (mESCs). I was thinking of trying to identify some proteins involved in translation initiation or spliceosome assembly/function, but am unfamiliar with the biology of these complexes.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
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In case anyone is curious about this question, I've found that the U1 snRNP complex components U1A and U1C interact in an RNA dependent manner and give a great Western blot signal. I'd recommend them as a control for RNAse degradation.
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Could anyone help me with the following question?
I was trying to purify my protein of interest by immunoprecipitation (IP) and look at the phosphorylation status of the protein using specific phospho-antibodies in normal and diseased condition. But unfortunately my antibody(polyclonal) is not pulling down my protein of interest. I have used IgG as a control to confirm that there was no immunoprecipitation. I am assuming my antibody is not binding to the protein in the 3-D structure but it works very well when I run western. Is there any other way to look at the phosphorylation status of a protein without doing IP.
Thank you in advance!
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You could use Mass spectrometry (MS) technique for the detection of phosphorylation. You may use several enrichment strategies for phospho-protein analysis by MS such as immobilized metal affinity chromatography (IMAC), phosphospecific antibody enrichment, chemical-modification-based methods such as beta-elimination of phospho-serine and -threonine, and replacement of the phosphate group with biotinylated moieties, because sometimes it becomes difficult to observe the signals from low-abundance phospho-proteins of interest in the high-background of abundant non-phosphorylated proteins.
You could also use collision-induced dissociation (CID) and electron transfer dissociation (ETD) which provide comprehensive parallel analysis of peptide sequences and post-translational modifications like phosphorylation.
Best.
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To successfully form an immune complex in an immunoprecipitation, is it better to incubate the protein lysate (that has the antigen of interest) with the antibody overnight followed by the addition of the antigen-antibody complex to the bead slurry the next day rather than add the antibody to a bead slurry for a couple of hours followed by the addition of the antibody-bead complex to the protein lysate for incubation overnight? Furthermore is it better to use Protein A magnetic beads in comparison to protein A agarose beads for immunoprecipitation experiments?
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Yes, you are right in both cases.
If you incubate the protein lysate (that has the antigen of interest) with the antibody overnight followed by the addition of the antigen-antibody complex to the bead slurry the next day, you will get high purity of protein. However, the antibodies are also co-eluted with protein of interest which sometimes creates difficulties in western blot detection.
On the other hand, if you add the antibody to a bead slurry for a couple of hours followed by the addition of the antibody-bead complex to the protein lysate for incubation overnight, it will give you lesser yield than the above method, but you will avoid the problem of co-elution of antibodies.
I would prefer incubating the protein lysate (that has the antigen of interest) with the antibody overnight followed by the addition of the antigen-antibody complex to the bead slurry the next day.
Further, agarose beads, are extremely porous in nature which increases the risk that the antibodies will get trapped inside their sponge-like structure, making them inaccessible to the target proteins. Moreover, you need to ensure that the amount of antibody used is enough to coat the entire bead or you’ll increase the risk of getting elevated background signal due to the nonspecific binding of the lysate components to the unsaturated portions of the beads.
On the other hand, magnetic beads do not have a porous center that can help enhance their binding capacity. Their relatively small size (magnetic beads have a diameter of 1 to 4μm compared to agarose beads which have a diameter of 45 to 165µm) helps them achieve optimum antibody binding capacity. Magnetic beads don’t require huge amounts of antibody to produce accurate results. They are non-porous so you can be sure that the antibody will bind exclusively on the exposed outer surface of the beads.
So, it is better to use Protein A magnetic beads in comparison to protein A agarose beads for immunoprecipitation experiments.
Good Luck!
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I want to know what other possible tests you can do to make sure that the normal serum is removed in immunoprecipitation (the one added in preclearing). One test is with the lysis buffer on the preclearing steps. What other checks can be done? TIA
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Easiest way is probably running the sample through a Protein A/G column to trap all IgGs and then checking by Western Blot if there are any (probably bovine) IgGs left. Dot Blot or ELISA like format might work, too.
The resin easily may be regenerated with an acidic buffer, e.g. 100mM glycine HCl, pH 2.5 in 0.9% NaCl.
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Hi, I'm having some trouble running a basic immunoprecipitation experiment.
I'm trying to pull-down actin from RAW cells, but all I get is a smear throughout the entire lane with no visible or distinct bands (first image).
I ran a second experiment using the same protocol and materials but with pure actin instead of the cell homogenate and was able to pull down actin (see second image).
I'm using RAW 264.7 cell homogenates (obtained from mechanical lysis using a french press), anti-beta-actin antibodies, and protein g sepharose beads. I've been incubating the various proteins rather than a column, but again the second experiment shows that the protocol works.
Thanks for any help and advice.
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So to trypsin involved. just wanted to be sure.
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Why is it important to have an alternative to the lysate preparation, specifically on having a denaturing and a non-denaturing steps for the samples?
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Hello Leslie Traqueña,
As you know that the immunoprecipitation is a method, which enables the purification of a protein from cell/tissue lysate. In this method, an antibody for the protein of interest is incubated with a cell extract enabling the antibody to bind to the protein in solution. The antibody/antigen complex is then pulled out of the sample using protein A/G-coupled agarose beads. This isolates the protein of interest from the rest of the sample. The sample can then be separated by SDS-PAGE for western blot analysis.
The non-denaturing lysis buffer is used if the antigens are detergent soluble and recognized in native form by the antibody. For the purpose, Triton X-100 is substituted for NP-40.
However, some soluble proteins do not require use of detergents. Hence, Detergent-free soluble protein lysis buffer is used if the lysate is prepared by mechanical cell lysis such as homogenization with a Dounce homogenizer.
On the other hand, epitopes of native proteins are not accessible to antibodies that only recognize denatured proteins. Hence, denaturing lysis buffer is used for non-detergent soluble antigens. Therefore, while harvesting and lysing the cells, heat the cells in denaturing lysis buffer. This method can also be used for antigens that cannot be extracted from the cell with non-ionic detergents. Use of DNase1 will aid extraction of proteins from chromatin.
Hope this helps
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Due to an accidental event in our institute and power cutoff I have stored the Dynabead protein G immunoprecipitation kit in -20C for 16-24 hours.
As the kit recommends the storage should be between 2-8 degrees, will the kit work? any suggestions?
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Hi,
We recommend storage of Dynabeads™ at 2-8 °C in upright position to ensure that Dynabeads™ are covered with buffer (drying will reduce their performance). It is always important to re-suspend the beads completely and wash them properly before use, and this is even more important if they have been frozen. If they are frozen in storage buffer, they can normally be used afterwards without affecting their efficiency - as long as they have not been frozen and thawed several times.
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I have attempted using DMSO as a drug-delivery vehicle for a water-insoluble drug but it tends to precipitate out after injection into mice. I am considering trying this with a NMP/PEG-300 formulation instead but cannot find any literature of this ever having been done before. Anyone have any insight into this method?
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Jose Chavira can you share some of this literature
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I am trying to immunoprecipitate LKB1 which is a protein with a molecular weight very close to IgG. I want to cross-link my antibody to the beads to help solve this problem.
Is this the best way to do it (crosslinking the antibody to the beads) or is there a more efficient way?
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The simplest way to do it is to buy NHS-activated magnetic beads for conjugation to lysines on your Ab. The downside is that the beads are not particular stable during storage unless free of moisture, but once conjugated the link to the antibody is irreversible. If you are not used to doing reactions, this is your best option I think, and there is a high chance of success
There are plenty of other chemistries too, and nearly all of them also create a bond between lysines and the bead. So the specifics of the linker between the bead and antibody may change, but otherwise the Ab is coupled through the same lysines. Don't bother with complex site-directed protocols; you resort to these approaches only if the simple methods don't work.
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Lets say, an antibody binds a specific region of a protein and this region is involved in interacting with another protein, therefore this epitope region is buried in the hetero-dimer complex. Does this mean my antibody will not recognize the epitope if I do staining or immunoprecipitation? By the way, the region is a coiled-coil domain, and I know that the antibody binds to that region if I denature the proteins and perform Western blotting.
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As far as I understood no body really knows the answer. I suppose it really depends on the degree of interaction. Here is a quote from the paper below:
"The mechanism of antigen retrieval, however, remains speculative with the key to our understanding embedded in the actions of formaldehyde on proteins."
"Results revealed that for some proteins, formalin treatment left the native protein conformation unaltered, whereas for others, formalin denatured tertiary structure, yielding a molten globule protein. In either case, heating to temperatures used in AR methods led to irreversible protein unfolding, which supports a linear epitope model of recovered protein immunoreactivity."
If the linear epitope model is indeed valid also for your protein of interest, then steric hindrence caused by the protein-protein interaction should not be a problem with the IHC antibody binding.
You may find some further details in the papers below:
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I'm new to mass spec/proteomics and hoping for some advice! 
We want to do mass-spec on the pulldown from an immunoprecipitation.  We are concerned about IgG/antibody contamination in the sample.
Unfortunately, chemically crosslinking (with DSS) our antibody to the beads decreases the activity of our antibody. Silver staining of our IP product shows that we lose a significant amount of target proteins with antibody crosslinking,although it does eliminate IgG elution.
We are looking for a way to reduce IgG elution, without having to crosslink.  Due to budget constraints, we would also like to avoid alternative (expensive) antibody coupling techniques (such as the surface activated Epoxy m270 dynabeads).
I've found some papers suggesting "soft elution"  (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21448433) to reduce IgG contamination. Does anyone have experience with this?
Alternatively, is it possible to simply excise the IgG heavy and light chain bands from the gel, and submit the rest of the lane for mass spec?  
Thanks for any help!
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Hi Samantha,
Did you use Epoxy m270 dynabeads kit finally to avoid IgG contamination from IP samples?
If yes, how is your result?
Thanks!
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Nuclear Insoluble Protein Immunoprecipitation
Hi all,
I am working on a mammalian protein that is found in the nucleus and I would like to Immunoprecipitate it (IP) and send it for mass spectrometry analysis in order to determine its interaction-partners.
I used several protocols for extraction, but long story short, the insoluble nuclear fraction is salt resistant and not so much is known about those proteins. Theoretically this fraction contains nuclear architecture proteins, nucleolar proteins, as well as some RNPs and a few chromatin proteins. From what I found, the easiest way to work with these proteins is to solubilize them in a buffer containing high concentration of detergent (8M urea, Laemmli loading buffer, high-SDS protein extraction buffer...). However, these strong denaturing conditions are bad for immunoprecipitation.
Concerning IP: my control is a cell line that is knocked out for this protein. When I try to IP it, everything looks correct on my blot. However, if I perform a Ponceau staining after the transfer step, I can see that I IP a lot of proteins even in my KO. I actually have a smear of proteins in both my KO and non-KO conditions (endogenous and tagged-protein), showing that the IP is absolutely not specific.
But it is even worse than just an aspecific antibody issue. I tried to IP the native protein, the tagged version of it, I used magnetic beads, Protein A/G PLUS-Agarose beads, pre-clearing, different types of buffers (including CHAPS-containing buffer, that is used to partially resolubilize membrane proteins) but I cannot make it work. It is really not about any kind of aspecificity.
My guess is that these proteins are so insoluble that they form clumps together, and they will bind to anything you put in the tube, not in a specific way at all. The problem is that to solubilize them, I would have to use detergents, that would then disrupt protein-protein interactions. People in my lab do not have much knowledge about similar samples, so I am quite lost for a while about that. Anyone has worked with similar proteins or know some tips that could help me? I am not even sure that it is something that can be achieved.
Thank you in advance for your response!
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First of all, any IP will give you an enrichment, not a pure purification. So seeing many bands on an IP is not unusual. Even if you get a 100x enrichment, you will still have a lot of other bands in the lane besides your specific protein of interest.
For poorly soluble nuclear proteins you could prepare chromatin as you do for ChIP. Cross-link cells with formaldehyde then solubalize chromatin in 1% SDS buffer. This denatures all proteins, but if they are cross-linked then they will remain bound. Dilute the 1%SDS buffer about 1:10 for IP and then try with your antibody. It is essentially a ChIP assay but after IP and wash, analyze the proteins by reversing the cross-links and boiling in SDS/PAGE buffer. Check for your protein of interest and any bound co-IPed proteins by Western blot.
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I have purified my protein of interest using the specific antibody and pulled down the protein-Ab complex with protein A beads. I need to perform mass spec on my protein and need a protocol that can help in the elution. I read about the glycine and urea-based elution method and was wondering if anyone has used these before and has a standardized protocol.
Thank you.
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hi, if you want to check the primary sequence of your antigen, antibodies are suggested to be separated from antigen before you put your antigen into mass spec.
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I use the ultracentrifugation protocol to isolate exosomes from cell in culture (BV-2 microglia cell line). I was wondering if there is a viable protocol to isolate specifically microglia-derived exosomes from bloodstream (either through immune-precipitation or even FACS??)
Which marks are the best in this case? (considering that macrophages must be excluded from isolation).
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Here's the current protocol guidelines.
Exosome Isolation by Ultracentrifugation and Precipitation and Techniques for Downstream Analyses - PubMed (nih.gov)
However, there are so many variations in exosome isolation and purification techniques that Hector Peinado, a leading EV scientist, once described the process as a mess. People must standardize the isolation techniques. Although I do ultracentrifugation and precipitation, evidences suggest that ultrafiltration might maximize the yield.
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Hello everybody,
In my work, I'm actually interesting about mRNAs-contained in a protein complex in yeast S.cerevisiae.
We perform in the lab the immunoprecipitation of these mRNAs (RIP) from a S.cerevisiae strain for which one of protein complex is tag, and we now wanted to identify these mRNA by sequencing. The mRNA amount control is mRNA immunoprecipitate from an untagged strain.
But how can I determine the number of reads that I have to choose for the mRNA sequencing ?
Thanks !
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Vincent Pacini , can you detect the mRNA concentration by nanodrop? It should not be a problem as long as you can detect the amount with nanodrop.
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Hi, I am attempting to run an immunoprecipitation and Western blot and just eluted the protein of interest off the beads in 0.1M Glycine at pH 2.67. I reserved the eluate and added Laemmli. It immediately turned yellow, so I add a drop of NaOH and it turned back to blue, however, after boiling, the samples turned colorless and additional NaOH has not turned them back blue. Are these samples ok to run on a gel? TIA!
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Thank you for your advice! Yes, I ended up trying to run them and they didn't run evenly. I will try a repeat and modify the pH if necessary. Thanks again!!
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I’m attempting to co-IP binding partners from a protein. The problem is that no matter what I do, I have ”smudgy” lanes with super high background. This is a problem because I can’t see if my bands of interest appear. I am using near-infrared detection using a Li-cor odyssey scanner and the background appears in both channels, no matter which specific secondary I use.
Protocol info:
My IP protocol is pretty standard from what I can tell. I use pre-cleared GammaBind sepharose beads. Anti-myc antibody to pull down my protein of interest. Elute with a SDS sample buffer that contains bromophenol blue, DTT, B-ME, and various inhibitors. Boil at 95C for 7 minutes, spin down beads, and load the supernatant for SDS-PAGE. I transfer to a nitrocellulose membrane and do pretty standard Western procedures after that.
Troubleshooting so far:
- different beads (protein A/G Plus from Santa Cruz)
- different sample buffer containing different dye (Li-cod’s own with Orange G)
- loading beads that don’t have antibodies doesn’t help
- it’s not a heavy/light chain or antibody compatibility problem
However, NOT boiling the beads at all after adding sample buffer seems to reduce the effect a lot. Still, I really want to know what the problem stems from. We know of other labs that use near infrared detection with the same equipment and very similar protocols and have great success, and they boil their samples. Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated!
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A pic would help. Do you see a smear that runs the entire lane? Does it stain with ponceau? If you see an intense signal, likely that your secondary reacts with an abundant epitope. Are you using ECL or fluorescence?
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Hello I have prepared acidic glycine and basic trisbase for an immunoprecipitation experiment and was wondering if the solutions can be reused in future immunoprecipitation experiments I want to perform?
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I've stored these solutions for many months in the fridge. Even the lab would be okay for a few weeks I suspect.
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We are performing immunoprecipitation (IP) using protein G and protein A/G magnetic beads. We are using tissue protein lysates from chicken intestinal samples. We are trying to separate and identify proteins previously measured through Western Blot analysis. However, after performing SDS-PAGE and Coomasie stain on the eluants of the IP, we are getting a lot of non-specific binding and two prominent bands at ~43 kDa (actin) and ~223 kDa (myosin). One of our controls, IP procedure without antibody at any step, provided the same results as our IgG antibody treatments. Indicating that the proteins eluded from the beads are attaching to the protein G & A/G of the beads.
Why is our IP procedure not precipitating our target antigens and there is non-specific binding to the beads?
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Thank you for your help and support İsmail Emir Akyildiz Stanley Ng Erman Kocak . We will troubleshoot for different scenarios and will follow up with our results.
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For one of my projects, I need to enrich for the lysine-acetylated fraction of a bacterial protein mix.
I'm currently looking for tips and tricks to boost the sensitivity of my IP assay.
The types of samples I use are E. coli cultures, lysed with French-pressing.
As a positive control, I use chemically (fully) acetylated bacterial protein mix.
IP antibodies include a range of antibodies recognizing various acetylated proteins and peptides in WB and ELISA: commercially available rabbit polyclonal anti-AcK, mix of rabbit monoclonal anti-AcK and in-house human IgG monoclonals.
Comparing the WB signal with control proteins, I roughly estimate the abundance of acetylated proteins to be around 0.1-0.3% (50-150 ng/50 ug) of the whole protein mix.
The problem is that all antibodies work well with the positive control (fully acetylated proteins), but they fail to isolate proteins with limited acetylation abundance.
The current protocol I use:
  • Add 1,5 ul of 1 mg/ml anti-AcK antibody to the 50 ug of the bacterial protein sample dissolved in 23,5 ul PBS.
  • Incubate 2,5 h at 4C (in case of the rabbit polyclonal, overnight incubation didn't really improved results).
  • Add 20 ul of Protein A beads (4x times pre-washed in PBS).
  • Incubate 1,5 h at 4C with gentle agitation.
  • Spin down at 3000g for 2 min, let it stand for 2 min, collect sup (flowthrough).
  • Wash 2x more times with 1 ml PBS.
  • Resuspend in 30 ul PBS, load on the gel (reducing conditions).
  • Proceed with gel running/Western blotting.
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Hi Mikhail Volkov . I'm not criticizing your methodology, only commenting on your original question:
"I need to enrich for the lysine-acetylated fraction of a bacterial protein mix."
My point is that 1-3 acetylated lysines per ~20 kDa (or larger proteins) is too small of a change to significantly affect physical parameters such as pI, hydrophobicity and charge distribution so that conventional protein separation methods can enrich for these modified proteins from a mixture.
Conventional separation methods might work to enrich for individual proteins that have some acetylated lysines, but I doubt it will work for a protein mix.
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Hi,
I am trying to quantify proteins performing ELISA on IP samples.
Is there an IP elution buffer that I could use that is compatible with ELISA?
Thanks
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Hi Masaya Oshima . You could try low pH buffers e.g. 10 mM acetic acid to elute and then neutralize for the ELISA.
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I am conducting a co-immunoprecipitation experiment and when running a random rabbit IgG negative control, my protein of interest binds highly to it. Not quite as much my protein specific antibody but still quite high. I have reduced antibody concentration and increased the % tween in the wash buffers but it doesn't seem to help too much. Any suggestions?
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If the goal of co-IP is to identify the components that co- immunoprecipitate with the protein of interest, then the random IgG control is irrelevant. What you need is a control in which the “protein of interest” that is used to fish out these co-immunprecipitating components is left out.
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Greetings
I am looking for a recommendation for a generalistic E. coli antibody (i.e. an antibody that recognize many strains of E. coli) to be used in immunoprecipitation experiments (i.e. it need to recognize efficiently whole cells.
Many thanks
Yoram
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I suggest you to contact any E.coli serotyping lab to get the further help.
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Hi,
I am planning to tag a gene endogenously (in vivo) in E. coli for immunoprecipitation. Can anyone suggest an elegant protocol for this? Thanks!
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Keep in mind that FLAG tag is very good for analysis, but not so useful if you want to purify your protein.
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Hi everyone!
Im performing some supernatant IPs after serum starvation treatment to analyze whether my protein of interest is secreted or not. Since some cells might die during procedure, I can’t distinguish whether my WB signal is due to my protein being secreted or, on the other hand, due to dead cells which cytoplasmic content is released to the culture media.
Thanks in advance.
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I’ve tried from 2 hours to 48 hours serum starvation and just at 24 and 48 hours I’m able to see some bands. At these time points, my cells start dying. I wonder if my protein is like “late secreted” or I am just watching my protein of interest because dead cells are releasing all their cytoplasmic content.
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I am trying to purify secreted FLAG tag protein in the cell culture supernatant using FLAG Immunoprecipitation Kit. I am wonder should I add protease cocktail inhibitor in the supernatant for preventing the protein from degradation?
Any suggestion? Please help me.
Thanks a lot.
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Using general PIC can be expensive if using large volumes for purification and are generally not used for secreted mammalian expression, unless your protein is really susceptible to degradation. If samples are expressed as secreted products in cell culture at 37C and your protein is still intact then your protein is probably reasonably stable. If you are concerned, the key thing here is not to grow cultures to exhaustion because increased cell death will increase the chances of proteolytic damage. If you know what proteases are affecting your protein this can narrow down the use of proteases. You can use cheap alternative such a Benzamidine HCL, EDTA etc in initial stages.
Main things to keep in mind: process samples as quickly as you can, filter sterilise if necessary, keep samples cold or if conducting processes at RmT then process quickly then store cold/filtered or freeze for long term.
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I am a doing DNA pull down assay using streptavidin couples agarose beads ( Sigma). I have two biotin labeled ds DNA probes - wild type and mutant ones. I have prepared a matermix using binding buffer, poly DI-DC , 100ug nuclear extract and DNA probe, incubated for 30mins at 250C and then added 40ul of streptavidin beads into this mixture and rotated for 2hrs at 40C. After that I washed the beads for 2times using the binding buffer and eluted by 40ul of 5X laemmelli sample buffer. I have separated 50ug of nuclear extract previously as an input control, added 40ul of LB and used it as a positive control in western blot. In western blot, I have noticed that, the intensity of the input sample is always less in comparison to the wild type probe whereas there is a significant intensity difference between wild type vs. mutant probe. I can not understand whether this result is correct or not. Generally the input intensity should be more than pull down fraction but in my case this is opposite. Please give me some valuable advices so that I could rectify the problem. The image is attached below.
Thank you
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So it means that if the pull down is efficient you concentrate the target up to 2x...
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I was doing immunoprecipitation with protein A/G plus sepharose. After incubating the beads with cell lysates, I washed the beads for 4 times and then add sample buffer directly onto the beads, boil at 95.2 °C for 5 min, and load this sample directly to the gel. Normally I use 2x sample buffer for this, but today I accidentally added 5x sample buffer onto the beads. I boiled the sample at 95.2 °C for 5 min as well. What will happen if I load this sample to the gel? Will it run normally? Also, can I load this sample side-by-side with IPs that were eluted into 2x sample buffer on the gel?--will the samples diffuse to nearby lanes due to the different concentration of components? I don't want to dilute my sample as the protein concentration is not high...
Thank you! !
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Dear Xueqing, you might see some distortion in your gel when salt concentrations differ from lane to lane, as the conductivity will be different, which in turn will distort the electric field in your gel.
To be on the safe side, as long there is space in the pockets left, you could top up the 1x samples with the lacking salt amount using 5x buffer, but I'd tried this on a test gel with non precious samples first (there you also could check how prominent the salt effect is at all). If there is not enough space left, add the 5x buffer as soon as your samples have entered the stacking gel.
Another option (if your samples are really precious, otherwise, maybe just start over if topping up doesn't work) might be to precipitate the samples or doing a buffer exchange by gel filtration (e.g. by using tiny Sephadex spin columns), in order to remove the excess salt. Also try and optimize this with invaluable material, e.g. BSA or serum samples.
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PIWIL4,piwi-like 4 。
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Dear Wang, what is the piwil4 antibody for IP that you tried? How was it? Thank you, Tiziana
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Dear Sumit,
that depends on the size of your GFP tagged protein. As you will have fragments of mouse IgG on your Western Blot, there might be interference. As long as you can identify your protein of interest, just go ahead. If you're lucky, you might be able to detect some GFP fluorescence on the membrane.
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Hello everyone,
I am working to isolate/immunoprecipitate homologs of a protein (RdR) from an invertebrate. There are no commercially available antibody for any of the homologs for my organism. However, there exist a polyclonal antibody against another homolog of the protein in C. elegans. Since the two proteins are related and predicted to have similar function (this have not been experimentally verified), is it possible that I can obtain the said polyclonal antibody and use it to immunoprecipitate my protein of interest? and what things do I need to consider if I should/shouldn't go this route?
Is there anything you guys suggest I do?
Also, I'd like to point out that the predicted targets (epitops) by the company are not a 100% match to the homologs I am working with as seen below from multiple sequence alignment.
  1. RMQQLLDEYGIEDEASVVSGHAASIKRLAGMERDDYSFYHTDKVVELRYEK c.el hom
  2. QLRSLMAQYGIETESEAVSGCIVKLHKHMD---DRYERYEIERVAKVRIED hom1
  3. KIRSIMSLYGISSEGEVVSGCILKVKQRLG--LLKNERFEVTEYVRARFKT hom2
  4. QLKYLMDRYGIETEAEAMSGCIGRIHKHMD---NRYDRHEVERVFKERIKD hom3
  5. MMMSIMSLYGITSEGEVVSGCILKVKQRLG--LLKNERFEVTEYVRARFKT hom4
  6. KLQDLMSQYGIDTEAEAVSGCFVRMHHHME---DRYERFEAERIAKDRIAH hom5
  7. QIDF--TRFTPSQKVRVAVDCPE-----LPMEYVSNAFYRSKILTENDIER hom6
If the question isn't clear enough I can explain more. Thanks in advance
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Jacob, that's very hard to read. Multalin is great tool for generating colour coded alignment: http://multalin.toulouse.inra.fr/multalin/
But with 50% homology on AA basis, I think chances for a specific signal are low. If you can't find a suitable antibody, consider having your own made against a selected synthetic peptide sequence. Esp. when you anticipate that you'll need larger amounts. A polyclonal is fine for that.
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I'm currently purifying a protein complex from crude cell lysate using immunoaffinity purification. I've screened a monoclonal antibody against a peptide epitope with 5nM binding affinity. I coupled antibody to CNBr-Activated Sepharose 4B resin for IP. After incubation with crude cell lysate, we found that target protein absorbed to the resin using both silver staining and western blot. However, we can't elute our target protein even using very high concentration of epitope peptide (10mg/ml). What might be the reason?
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If you just want to elute all proteins that have bound to the immobilized antibody, try acidic conditions, e.g. 100mM glycine pH 2.5, maybe supplemented with some NaCl for ionic strength. Should disrupt protein complexes, though.
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Hi there,
For my IP experiments i'd like to purchase Dynabeads™ Protein A and all that i need for immunoprecipitation. Ive seen they sell kits and you can even buy it individually. What is weird to me, is the fact that they dont sell the "Antibody (Ab) Washing and Binding buffer", and "Washing Buffer" individually. (https://www.thermofisher.com/order/catalog/product/10018D?SID=srch-srp-10018D#/10018D?SID=srch-srp-10018D)
So my question is:
What do you use for washing antybody binding and the washing steps?
Is PBS (+/-BSA) a good alternative for the binding step and PBS+0.01%Tween for washing?
Thank you in advance!
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Hi Peter,
If you look into the stand-alone Dynabeads Protein A (#10001D) manual on the Thermo Fisher Scientific web page, all the required buffers are mentioned:
There is one protocol for manual handling and one for use with the KingFisher instruments for fast (40 min) automated IP. Please reach out to me for further technical questions, berit.reed@thermofisher.com
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Hello everyone!
I want to immunoprecipitate a protein and then, performe Western Blotting agains phospho-Serin. I would like to know if you could recommend me a good anti-pSer you know is working properly.
I have already try one and it is not.. so before buying a different one I would like, please, your experiences!
Thank you in advance,
Elisa.
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I have been using phospho antibodies for flowcytometry from BD and try work best.
For, other assays antibodies from CST are best.
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I need to immunoprecipitate selectively the IGF1R and the insulin receptor from human source and thought of using antibodies aganist the anti-alpha subnits of each receptor. Any advice is important
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Looking for an antibody needs some input like what cells, host and the species reactivity etc.. Without which, any advice will be purely based on assumptions !!
In fact, there are several anti-IGF1Ra antibodies in market with product references, citations for the respective antibody and applications tested for, like in your case, immunoprecipitation !!
BW
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Hello everyone,
We are trying to find interaction partners of a certain proteins so we are using IP and BioID and the results are analysed by LC-MS-MS. In each case we use control samples to avoid false positive results.
I am trying to compare the level of each protein in the samples but as MS isn't my forte i would like to have some reinforcements.
Is it a good approach to compare its relative peptide count (= peptide count of the protein in a given sample divided by the total peptide count of that sample) in the control and the sample? Can i confidently say that if i the ratio of their peptide counts is eg. 5 to 1, it is a positive result?
If no, what would be a better approach?
If yes, what are the limits if there's any?
Do i have to take into consideration the coverage (cov%) of a protein?
Thank you in advance and any other suggestion, advice is welcomed as well.
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The comparison you propose is very misleading. Briefly, we use (likely) trypsin to digest the proteins present. Therefore, depending on the lenght of your proteins, you'll generate more or less peptides. Thus, peptide count is never a good option as it is highly biased for protein size.
A different approach would be to do spectral counting (based on PSMs; Peptide spectrum matches). This is a bit more accepted, but still not the best way to go. This type is based on MS2 evidence which can be affected by many factors making it not fully accurate either.
The most accepted practice in the field is to use MS1 (precursor ions) Intensity-based quantitation. I reccomend you to read this article about "label-free quantitation" ( ).
In intensity-based methods, the intensity of precursor ions (a.k.a the peptide, MS1) that were identified based on spectral evidence (MS2) is summed/averaged/etc. to give a good estimate of protein abundance. Especially, if your data was acquired with MaxQuant (free available software), you should use LFQ Intensity, which applies a normalization across your samples to make them fairly comparable (for example, when one protein was identified with 3 peptides in sample A and 2 peptide in sample B, only the 2 common peptides will be used for quantification).
So, if you have intensity information, I would suggest to compare your samples using this parameter. If you don't have LFQ, but "abundance" from another software, you can check if you need to normalize so that you are doing a fair comparison.
Best regards,
Julia
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Hello! I am new to running immunoprecipitations and have encountered a tricky problem that we are unsure how to proceed with. We are interested in protein X, but protein X levels are modified by both gene and treatments. We were planning to IP protein X to see if there are any changes in its PTMs, but have been told that for this type of IP your total target protein should be unchanged. Since protein X levels are different in all the samples we've been told we can't complete any meaningful comparisons.
How would you approach this issue?
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Phenomenal. Thank you so much Gary I appreciate your input.
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Dear all,
I hope one or few of you would be able to give some feedback on immunoprecipitating membrane protein in yeast.
I work with one integral membrane and one peripheral membrane proteins of 250 and 180 Kda. I have tried bead beating and freeze grinding with Liquid N2 with Huang lysis buffer (50 mM Hepes ph 7.4, 150 mM NaCl, 10% Glycerol, 0.5% to 2% NP-40 with 2% working so far, 1 mM EDTA and 100 mM PMSF) followed by two rounds of centrifugation (4000 rpm for 10 minutes to collect the debris and 50,000 rpm to get the soluble fraction- supernatent and membrane fraction-pellet). Then I re suspend the pellet with 2 ml lysis buffer followed by overnight incubation for both soluble and membrane fraction with Anti-FLAG M2 Magentic beads. I do 4 subsequent washes and elute them in SDS-Page buffer. Cook them at 65 degree for 10 minutes and run the gel. I still dont see significant protein enrichment on the coomasie staining but is able to detect the peripheral protein on the western blot. I dont see the integral membrane protein band even on the westerns. I have not had any experience working with membrane proteins. If you have suggestions on improving this protocol or have another protocol for immunoprecipitating membrane proteins, please let me know.
Thank you
Prathibha
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Hello Wolfgang, Hathama and Ismail
Thank you for the information. I ran westerns from each fraction from the extraction process - here is the description of what I did
After the lysis, I treated my soluble fraction and membrane fraction with Anti-flag beads and did an overnight incubation.
Next day, before I began washing the beads, I took out 30 ul as pre-wash fraction. This is right after the IP.
Then washed my samples with lysis buffer once and with wash buffer 4 times. Took 20 ul from each wash.
Finally eluted using SDS-page loading buffer, cooked it for 3 minutes and ran on 8% SDS gel and western
From my westerns I dont see signal in my pre-wash and washes so I assume protein binding on the beads.
Please let me know if you think am going wrong in any of these steps.
Hathama Razooki Hasan - I will try running a Native PAGE in the coming days to check the extracted proteins
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I want to purify my enzyme by native immunoprecipitation and use it for enzymatic assays.
What kind of washes should I use in order not to co-precipitate interacting proteins, but still leave my enzyme active?
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I think the number of washes you use is a subjective criteria and depends on how promiscuous your protein is and how tight the interactions are. You can start with a gradient from 0.15M to 0.25M NaCl, and 1% to 2% NP-40 in 5 washes with the wash buffer and see if you need to increase the number of washes. Once you have validated by silver staining or mass spectrometry that your protein is pure the elution can be dialysed against your enzymatic assay buffer to normalise the salt concentration and remove the detergent.
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I am working with saliva and I would like to verify the presence of a protein by immunoprecipitation. But I don't know if there is any protocol for it.
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If you are not able to find any literature on the protocol, might as well dilute the smaple in the regular IP binding buffer (20 mM Tris HCl pH 8, 120 mM NaCl, 10% glycerol, 1% Nonidet P-40 (NP-40), 2 mM EDTA, protease inhibitors) and see if you are able to pull down your protein. You can reduce the salt and detergent concentration till you get a posetive interaction. All the best.
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I am trying to do CO-IP and I used two kits: Pierce™ Co-Immunoprecipitation Kit and Pierce™ Immunoprecipitation Kit. In both cases I don't have my target band (around 100 kDa) and I only have a 50 kDa that I assume that is the heavy chain from the antibody. I don't know what to do. I have a control of my lysate and I do get a band at the right size.
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Well let's get more data in the question and better help. Did you load lanes with cell lysate taken both before and after your attempt to co-IP?
Now do you see both the target of the pull down antibody and the protein you are hoping to Co-IP in the pre-immunoprecipitation lysate when you develop blots accordingly for western?
Does the target of the pull down antibody diminish at at between the pre-IP lysate and the post-IP lysate?
Now most importantly, do you see the protein that you are attempting to co-IP in the pre-IP lysate?
I have had similar struggle as likely most who do this co-IP. Proving that your co-IP ultimate target is detectable in your sample before IP and proving that the initial IP works are necessary internal controls, even before "co" part of the co-IP is relevant.
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I am wondering how important pH is here. I have a sample tryptic sample in 50mM TEAB, wondering if I need to add in TFA to ~2% before desalting. I understand the need to acidify samples with ion exchange.
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Hi,
Do not think TFA as only acidity serving additive.It is also increase the protein/peptide solubility but most important one is ion pairing agent which is related to your question. It increases peptide retention in a wide variety of polarity...Thereby if you need to desalt your peptide mixture and ensure the retention of hydrophilic peptides on c18 columns, it could be chosen. Also.consider that for online desalting purposes at ms systems, TFA is not compitable due to ionisation suppression effect
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Hi all,
I'm optimizing immunoprecipitation against a flagged protein.
For this, I have cells overexpressing my tagged protein and a control with just the empty vector.
I have tried four different buffers for IP (flag M2 beads) and compared the results by silver staining of the obtained eluates.
The thing is that I see multiple bands even in the cells transfected with the empty vector. I don't know how I can catch so many non specific bindings whereas I did a preclear with sepharose beads and the IP is performed against a tag.
If anyone has tips for removing all these contaminants.
Thanks for your reply.
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The FLAG peptide is highly poly-anionic. 3X-FLAG even more so obviously. I would suggest that the non-specific binding seen likely comes from non-specific RNA binding as RNAs and RNA fragments are also present in SDS gels. This would explain reports that single-stranded DNAs can bind with high-affinity to anti-FLAG antibodies (Lakamp et al. 2011 for instance). Has anyone tested this hypothesis directly? or found a way to efficiently and robustly circumvent such non-specific binding issues, while maintaining specific binding to the FLAG epitope?
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I intend to buy Protein G magnetic beads and since their prices are almost equal (approx. 200$/mL), I was wondering which company produces better beads among ThermoFisher Scientific, Cytivia (GE Healthcare), Miltenyi Biotec, and Biovision? What are the ads and cons of each?
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Try Dynabeads from invitrogen ,I've used them for IP and CHIP.
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I am planning to perform immunoprecipitations using the Pierce anti-HA magnetic beads from Thermo Fisher (Catalog number: 88836) and I was wondering whether anybody has incubated these beads with their protein samples at room temperature for long periods of time?
I have used these beads in a previous lab but we would always perform the incubation at 4 degrees on a rotating wheel for 2-3 hours. However, the protocol on the Thermo website suggests doing this incubation for 30 minutes at room temperature.
I will be using these samples for mass spectrometry analysis and so, I was wondering if 30 minutes at room temperature would be long enough for adequate binding of HA-tagged proteins or would longer incubation times give better results?
Any information would be a big help, thank you!
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I would be more concerned with changes in your samples occurring at RT for 30 min than PD efficiency. That being said, 30 min is on the short side, and you probably leave quite a bit of target in solution, but there could still be sufficient material of interest for analysis (staining your gel will tell you that). Failing to see sufficient material in the PD, some optimization (different buffers, longer PD) will definitely improve your signal to noise ratio.
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I need to remove most of the proteins from urine samples to see how background noise contribtues to signal intensity in LFA.
I tried pH treating and heat treating and it did not work! I still had so much protein! I had extra antibodies to try to immunoprecipitate out but it did not work either.
I also thought about a column.
What do you think would denature and kill off proteins the best?
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To deplete a protein, researchers have two main techniques at hand: genome editing by CRISPR/Cas, and RNA interference (RNAi). By targeting a cell's DNA or RNA, respectively, they efficiently shut down the production of a protein.
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I want to identify the unknown RNA binding protein(RBP) in few mRNAs of interest. I am looking for a reliable immune-precipitation method (or any other possible method) to find the unknown RBP possibly attached to known mRNA.
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Hi
I'd suggest doing something like this:
1. Harvest cells (optional treatment of cells with formaldehyde to cross-link in vivo protein-RNA complexes)
2. Isolate nuclei and lyse nuclear pellets
3. Shear chromatin
4. Immunoprecipitate the RNA binding protein (RBP) of interest together with the bound RNA
5. Wash off unbound material
6. Purify RNA that is bound to immunoprecipitated RBP
7. Reverse transcribe RNA to cDNA and analyze by qPCR, microarray or sequencing 
For a more in-depth protocol, I'd suggest looking up RNA immunoprecipitation (RIP) protocols, of which you can find a lot.
Hope I could help
Art
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Hi all,
I am performing a Co-IP experiment where would like to check the binding of my protein to the DNA of interest. I kept a control where I incubated the DNA and antibody only with the protein A/G beads, after which I performed PCR to amplify the DNA of my interest.
I am seeing the desired PCR bands even in the control. Is it possible that the protein A/G beads show some sort of nonspecific binding to my DNA of interest resulting in these bands? I found the following links mentioning nonspecific binding of DNA to Co-IP beads:
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks!
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Have you solved this problem? I mean the nonspecific binding between DNA and beads. Subramaniyam Ravichandran
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Hi,
Recently I have been doing IPs and WB afterward. But I have problems with many of my samples. Namely, samples run weirdly on the gel, they can not concentrate on one band as usual, and when I stain them with Ponceau every peace of membrane which was in contact with gel is stained. Uploaded you will find normal Ponceau staining and the problematic one, both done in the same IP experiment, but cells are infected with different viruses. Any help is highly appreciated
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In my opinion, residues of organic solvents (ethanolor whatever) as well as compounds affecting a correct pH of the sample buffer may cause a non-uniform run of protein samples in your western blot.
I would propose to carefully revise your protocol and check all used solutions/buffers for correct composition and pH.
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 Has anybody has experience with Muse from millipore for assessing cell cycle in S. cerevisiae? I have a manual protocol based in IP that works moderately well, with the commercial kit my results are worst...I fixed the settings and I excluding the bckground, but I have a spreading tail, like If my cells are not separating properly after sonication. Finally I am not getting nice profiles. Does anybody have a good protocol or helping tips?
Thanks!!
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Hi Ana,
I recommend taking the RNase treatment for a long time or adding higher RNase concentration. There are a lot of RNA amount in yeast than mammalian cells. So, you should modify protocol based in general Cell cycle protocol.
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Hi,
I'd like to have an advice on which buffer and/or procedure I should use to maintain the phosphorylation status of a protein to be analysed through mass-spectrometry.
I have to lysate breast cancer cell lines where this protein is stably overexpressed, immunoprecipitate it and then use mass-spec to detect any phosphorylation.
So, I need a protocol that avoid as much as possible any dephosphorylation.
Thanks in advance!
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It really depends on what you intend to do. Couple of guidelines. If you want to map out pan-cellular phosphoproteome you definitely need a buffer that is compatible with your mass spec method. Avoid phosphate buffers for obvious reasons. If you need to enrich the entire phospho-protein population, some resins exist out there for IMAC based isolations; for those avoid metal chelators, etc..
Since you are referring to "a" protein, then you probably want to perform some SDS-PAGE or an equivalent resolving method, so use a buffer that doesn't contain organics but contains some detergent to lyse your cell (RIPA etc..are OK) and contains phosphatase inhibitors (we use the Roche tablets routinely). Assuming you are looking for a detailed phosphomap of an endogenous protein, you will need to purify first, and in significant amount (at least low micrograms); IP is OK, but pricey. Most antibodies bind fairly strongly and most aqueous buffers will do the trick. A good approach is to start with a recombinant, tagged, protein expressed at a level comparable (ideally) to the endo one. Tag will really help with the purification and phosphomapping. As a final step you can perform SDS PAGE, some staining (colloidal blue or silver stain) cut out the band and move on to your mass spec protocol.
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IP rights are granted to encourage inventions and innovations and such inventions always emanate from upcoming individuals with little means. Granted that the IP can be valued, how can such value be positively utilised for capital growth, in terms of using it as collateral for securing loan in non-developed economy?
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@Ibisola, thanks for the contribution
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CNO is used at 1mg/Kg or 3mg/Kg in rats for IP injections. I did not find any papers reporting the use of the agonist 21 on rats and the concentration used
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I am sure you have already found your answer, however, perhaps someone else is asking the question and will read your topic. We have just added a preprint study on BiorXiv which reports specific but also aspecific effects with C21 at doses commonly used.
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I have been running some ChIP-seq experiments in P. aeruginosa bacterial cultures. Following chromosome immunoprecipitation and decrosslinking I measured my DNA concentration on a Qubit fluorometer and had DNA centrations of between 0.1 and 0.3 ng/uL. I was wondering if anyone would be able to provide some insight into the DNA concentrations that are typically received following the decrosslinking step of the ChIP prior to beginning library preparation.
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Thank you for your answers. I have been using roughly 25-50ng of sheared input DNA. From RNA-seq experiments, I know that the ligand I am studying regulates roughly 400 genes, so I estimate I am looking for roughly 100 bacterial promoter elements (maybe a few more or less depending on secondary and tertiary expression in the RNA-seq data).
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Because my protein is tagged with a 3X-FLAG and not just 1x FLAG, it is difficult to elute off the M2 bead. If I boil the beads in Laemmli buffer and run the beads plus buffer, I see my protein along with the immunoglobulin on the beads (which I don't want). If I use glycine pH 3.5 or 3x FLAG peptide to elute, my protein does not elute in significant amounts probably because my tag is attaching to the beads with high affinity. Any way to elute my protein off the beads without getting all the immunoglobulin off the beads?
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Hi Yiyin,
Have you figured it out? I am also struggling with a flag-tagged protein that will not come off the beads...
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I am trying to identify a kit to assay glucocorticoid receptors (GRs) bound to GREs in a select brain region. I have an antibody to perform the immunoprecipitation part of the assay, but I am trying to identify a kit. This is a kit that seems to work for some people.
Any suggestions?
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Okay thanks much Michael!!!! I tried the p-2002 kit and will post the results here (hope I remember to do this). If it does not work, back to the drawing board and will try to p-2003 kit.