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Why glass transition and crystallization peak and associated temperature is shifted with heating rates. Explain?
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The simplest answer is that the faster you heat the less time a sample spends at each temperature. Therefore, at faster heating rate it takes higher temperature to reach the same conversion, e.g., 50%. This can be demonstrated strictly by looking at the integrals of the basic rate eq:
da/dt=k(T)f(a) for different heating rates.
This explanation holds for any kinetic process, i.e., glass transition, crystallization, polymerization, decomposition, etc. Note, this shift is oftentimes explained (incorrectly) as some sort of "thermal lag". While real, the latter, however, must be eliminated via a proper calibration. In other words, one must not measure and report data obtained with “thermal lag”, i.e., without proper calibration. DSC must be calibrated at each heating rate by using melting point standards, typically pure metals. For your T-range Indium would work. If your DSC calibrated properly, the onset T for Indium melting should be independent of the heating rate. But calibration has its limits. For instance, if you use 10mg Indium for calibration it will most likely hold for 10mg sample of your metallic glass, but will have “thermal lag” if you use, say, 50mg sample. However, since your sample crystallizes, it will melt on the next heating so you would be able to see if the onset T of its melting shifts with the heating rate. If the calibration holds, it will not.
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Dear Researchers, I recently went through my DTA analysis for my sample. In that, I found the sample weight is increasing with temperature increase. I never found like that graph in any literature. How do I understand the data? Can heat flow with a temperature graph be useful?
What can we calculate using TGA data?
Is it possible to calculate the glass transition temperature?
Please guide
Thanks in advance
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In rare cases, glass materials can gain weight. This is usually due to the oxidation of metal ions or reduced species (e.g. Fe²⁺) contained in the glass by reacting with oxygen. In addition, gas adsorption from the environment at certain temperatures can also cause weight gain, but this is quite rare. However, pure and stable glass materials (e.g. silica glass) generally do not show a significant weight change as the temperature increases, because such materials are chemically very stable.
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Why heating-cooling-heating cycle used as compared to normal heating cycle to calculate glass transition temperatures of food protein and starches ?
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Dear Sahil Nain, this is done generally to exclude extra transitions accompanying the targetted one. These extra transitions may be due to residual stresses, different macromolecular structures arrangements (especially in the case of proteins) in the amorphous phase, and others. By heating-cooling cycles, the effects of such artifacts are reduced if note completely removed. My Regards
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I performed DMA tests on a standard polycarbonate (PC) material using the following conditions on a TA instrument:
1. Dual cantilever clamp, 0.1% strain, 1 Hz, 3°C/min, and obtained a Tg of 160°C (tan delta peak).
2. Tension clamp, 0.1% strain, 1 Hz, 3°C/min, and obtained a Tg of 180°C (tan delta peak).
Is it normal to observe a difference in Tg for the same material under identical testing conditions but with different clamps? If so, what causes this discrepancy?
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A significant cause of variation can be thermocouple positioning - make sure it is as close to the sample as possible, without touching. A slower heat rate might also be helpful.
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Also, why on increasing scan rate, glass transition temperature is not much changing if we take sample in less amount and thermal lag is decreased.
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The glass transition is a kinetic phenomenon. Its T increases with increasing the heating rate. The size of the actual change dT is proportional to a change in the heating rate, dHR, but inversely proportional to the activation energy of the process. That is dT ~ dHR / E. Because the glass transition occurs cooperatively (simultaneous breaking of multiple intermolecular bonds) its E is usually quite high, i.e., several times larger than E of typical chemical reactions. As a result, dT typically is quite small.
For examples of the values see:
DOI: 10.1002/macp.200600095
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I am performing a temperature sweep from -100 to 100C at a 3deg/min rate to determine Tg of elastomer samples using the DMA 850 model. The data doesn't begin collecting at -100C (attached data here doesn't start until -40C) and it doesn't collect continuously until after the glass transition temperature. This behavior is consistent with other elastomers of different formulas. Is there an error in sample loading? Does anyone have advice to get smoother data collection? I don't know if I can trust this data.
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I've never used a DMA 850, more of a PerkinElmer DMA 8000 user, but they are quite similar in capability so there should be no problem with this type of test. A couple of things I can think of are, firstly, do you re-clamp the samples after cooling to the glassy state? Rubbers shrink considerably more than the metal clamps, becoming loose meaning data cannot be collected.
The other possibility is the dynamic force required to meet the programmed strain exceeds the capability of the instrument, ensuring it will operate in constant stress (force) mode rather than constant strain. Not sure how the DMA 850 copes with this situation, but if it is happening, try a softer geometry.
Hope that helps.
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I am working on modifying polymer membranes with surfactants to improve their pervaporation performance. I noticed that the glass transition temperature (Tg) of the membranes decreased as the permeation increased, indicating that the polymer became more rubbery. On the other hand, the X-ray diffraction (XRD) and positron annihilation lifetime spectroscopy (PALS) measurements showed that the free volume of the membranes decreased, suggesting that the polymer chains became more compact. I am wondering how these two phenomena are related and what is the role of the surfactant in this process. Does the surfactant act as a plasticizer or an antiplasticizer for the polymer? How does the surfactant affect the molecular interactions and chain mobility of the polymer? I would appreciate any insights or references on this topic. Thank you.
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Dear Amirreza Malekzadeh Dirin, Tg is decreased becauae chains interdistance is increased due to the presence of surfactant molecules. This leads to a reduction of the Cohesive Energy Density (CED) responsible for chain mobility. Note that for most intermolecular forces, the energy of interaction is 1/r^6, r being the separation distance of intercting sites. The free volume decreases because it is filled by surfactant molecules which due to their size have both ease of mobility and packing beneath chains. Yes surfactants are used as plasticizers by acting as previously explained (chains separation). My Regards
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I have two DSC curves, attached below. One of them shows an endothermic peak at 90 and another one at 71⁰C. Are these two peak shapes glass transition temp (considering enthalpy relaxation process)?
Moreover, in the high temp region if 314 and 157⁰C are considered to be melting temp of the compds what could be the possible processes involved for the other two peaks at 337 and 231⁰C?
Any suggestions are appreciated.
-Bidyut
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I never recommended directly for DSC Analysis. First, do the TGA study and then decide your range for the DSC study. In DSC analysis, go for a slow heating rate of up to 10C/min and do at least two DSC runs, so your sample is free from any previous history and gives a proper thermal analysis.
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The glass transition temperature of a polymer can vary from one experiment to another based on the parameters used in the synthesis and the synthesis route. I would like to know how much this oscillation range is. Sludos
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Tg depends on the MW (Mn to be exact). This is called the Flory-Fox equation. There is a limiting value of Tg as Mn increases.
A few other parameters (branching, etc) may also effect the Tg.
Read more here:
Journal of Polymer and Biopolymer Physics Chemistry, 2022, Vol. 10, No. 1, 10-17
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Is there any procedure for determining melting point and glass transition temperature of TKX 50?
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TSX-50 decomposes without preliminary melting. The thermal stability of TKX-50 was initially established using DSC at a heating rate of 5 ℃/min which showed only a decomposition exotherm at 221 ℃ and no endotherm indicative of either melting or a phase transition at temperatures between room temperature and 221 ℃ under the conditions used was reported.
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Maybe not academically correct explanation, but the general idea:
With increasing degree of branching glass transition of the same polymer with the same average Mn tends to decrease.
In is much harder for branched structure to form a dense packed structure. As a result intermolecular interactions become weaker and energy requirement for phase transition decrease as well.
Therefore glass transition process could occur at lower temperature.
The same is true for melting point.
The greater degree of branching the harder it is for polymer to crystallize as well
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I have a query is that after crystallization peak point some of other noise type peaks occur in DSC scan for (Se78-xTe20Sn2Znx) x=2 and x=6 ,this peak shown the material property or due to atmospheric condition. Please explain me.
and I have another question about the DSC peak. Can you please explain me, is glass transition peak represents the material's rigidity or it signifies something else?
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To better understand these phenomena, it is recommended to couple this technique with Thermogravimetric Analysis (TGA). This allows for a more comprehensive analysis of the thermal properties of your materials.
Regarding the materials x=2, x=4, and x=6, it appears that they exhibit similar characteristics after 125°C, where they all display both endothermic and exothermic thermal events, with varying intensities. This difference in intensity can be attributed to the specific intrinsic properties of each material.
The glass transition is a thermal event that occurs in amorphous materials. It is characterized by the transition from a malleable or rubbery state to a rigid and brittle state as the temperature decreases.
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If a doped a material in a matrix. Its glass transition temperature and crystallization temperature decreases compared to the matrix but activation energy increases (Kissinger, Moynihan). Please give me the explanation for increased activation energy with decreased Tg and Tc.
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I personally have not much experience with crystallization studies, but i suggest studied by professor Vyazovkin, e.g, the most recent one
to start with. Besides, the general comment on kinetics is that mentioned methods (Kissinger, Moynihan) should be used only for preliminary assessment, the final kinetic models should rely on more advanced kinetic technoques (see the ICTAC Kinetic commitee recommendations)
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I have doubts regarding finding the glass transition temperature for neat epoxy and epoxy composites reinforced with bamboo fibers. Anyone having knowledge about it, kindly help.
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I have the graphs showing DSC-TGA simultaneously but I want to find the glass transition temperature and degree of crystallinity too. Is there some way to calculate or find them from the graphs or data?
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You can download "TA Universal Analysis" software online
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What are the importance of glass transition temperature to surfactant role in detergency?
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The glass transition temperature (like the melting temperature of anisotropic) characterizes the properties of isotropic bodies. When the solid components of the cleaning composition are dissolved in water, this parameter has no effect on the cleaning action.
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Why does the glass transition temperature of PCL between (-65)-(-60)?
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Poly(caprolactone), much like other polymers, has a range of possible glass transition temperatures. This is due to the influence of the molecular weight of the polymer chain.
In short, the monomer unit (who has a large degree of conformational freedom) would have a much lower glass transition than a much longer chain (i.e., higher molecular weight). If we consider that the glass transition signifies a change in the free volume, one could easily imagine why a longer chain would require more activation energy (in this case thermal energy or higher temperature) to promote the transition.
See the Fox, or Flory-Fox equation for possible equations describing such behavior.
Another possible explanation is that the glass transition temperatures is a second order transition. This means that it occurs over a temperature range (calorimetry experiments reports an onset, midpoint, and endpoint). Therefore, for any molecular weight you may have multiple reported values in the literature depending on the methodology used (mechanical or thermal analysis).
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Please see the figure in PDF attached herewith.
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Dear Aboothahir Afzal . These DSC curves are completely non-informative. There are several points that need to be improved in order to be able to determine the glass transition temperature.
1) Is your substance in an amorphous form? If not, then it is impossible to talk about the glass transition temperature
2) Does your substance melt with decomposition? If so, then the heating-cooling-heating cycle is incorrect to use.
3) I suggest, expand the temperature range and start at least from zero Celsius
4) The speed of 20K/min is very fast. You can skip the glass transition temperature. At least 10 K / min, and even slower is better.
5) Even if you take into account points 1-4, there will still be a possibility of error. Therefore, for greater certainty, I suggest doing Modulated DSC (if possible).
Good luck!
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Good day dear all
I want to calculate the glass transition temperature of different systems of polymer/nanoparticles to study the effect of the NPS in the tg of polymer matrix
I try to use scrip in material studio software for that .but I got many problems and syntax.
Please. who can help me to attain my objective ??
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Dear Zouati,
first, you should specify your problem in more detail. Otherwise, it looks like asking "who will do my work for me?".
Check the work of Kenneth Schweizer and David Simmons on theoretical modeling to start with.
You can also refer to our work for experimental studies:
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Hi all,
I am finding polymer like PMMA and PC.
It should meet several conditions,
1. Transparent, high transmittance in visible light.
2. Tg is higher than room temperature.
3. Degree of crystallinity is very law.
I have found several qualified copolymer,
but I want to find a qualified polymer that has more simple structure.
Thank you very much.
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Dear Mason Lee, polystyrene meets all the requirements you mentionned. My Regards
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Welcome everybody!
I've made PLA thin films from previously prepared granules of PLA. 8 types of thin films were obtained.
LT - pure PLA, LT2 - PLA with 0,2% Natamycin, LT6 - PLA with 0,6% Natamycin, LT10 - PLA with 1% Natamycin.
LT-PEG, LT2-PEG, LT6-PEG and LT10-PEG. PLA samples were plasticized with 5% (weight%) PEG1500.
DSC results are shown in table, and graphs.
Questions:
why there is no cold crystalization peak, when PEG is added?
can natamycyn act as plasticizing agent? (Tg is decreased with natamycin% is rising)
degree of crystallinity is rising in both cases, why?
Thank you in advance, PG.
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Mr. piotr
I think its because of chemical structure of PEG , the PEG chemical structure contains carbon and hydrogen bonds which may disturb the chemical structure of PLA.
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I am looking to melt extrude PLA and a microcellulosic filler in a single screw extruder. The concern is insufficient back pressure due to low polymer viscosity before the compression zone. I want the polymer to be softened up instead of losing viscosity. This is the context in which I want to ask if Tg and softening temperatures are the same or different. If so, can a test method for gauging the softening point (temperature) of semicrystalline polymers and composites be shared?
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Of course, and by the way softening is the threshold to melting at which chains are freely flowing, i. e., no restriction to any form of movements. My Regards
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Info: I was using Tzero Pan and Tzero lid, and around 8 mg of (powdery) material per pan.
Observation: The pan comes out of the measurement showing a slightly opened lid and some material overflow.
My question: From the graphs, how can I determine at what temperature did this occur? In other words, can I recognise from looking at the graph only, when some material overflows my pan?
Example: Looking at the heat flow below: Is it correct to analyse that the pan opened at the 160°C mark, and can be shown by a sudden sharp endo-thermal event in the heat flow.
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Vadym Chibrikov Thank you for your curiosity!
Tzero Lid was pressed using the DSC Tzero Press. What do you mean by "pressing should be done in triplicate" ? Maybe it helps to know, that many of my Tzero lids were displaced and pressed out. It was not a singular event. Additional info, I use the black pressing die with the concave top.
The material is powdery formulation of zein and glycerol (around 20% glycerol w/w). heating rate 15°C/min. Preliminary measurements (which didn't show lid displacement allowed me to tell that there is some amount of water contained in my material, which results in an endothermic deformation during the first heating cycle. second and third heating cycles usually coincide, suggesting that all water evaporated during the first cycle and that the curve form the second (or the third) cycle is "analysable". Note: the material becomes sticky when in the viscous state, so the lid isn't fully pressed out, it just stays half open, oblique, with some material peaking through.
https://folk.ntnu.no/deng/fra_nt/other%20stuff/DSC_manuals/QDSC/Preparing_DSC_Samples.htm this manual suggest using samples 10 - 20 mg for Glass Transition measurement, which is what I'm aiming to analyse here.
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Hello! I have a co-amorphous system with API-Tryptophan and API-Phenyalalnine obtained milled. Amino acids could not be transformed into an amorphous form via ball milling, so I cannot get the glass transition temperature of pure amorphous amino acids. So the questions are:
1.Where then to take the glass transition temperature for amino acids?
2. To determine the constant, it is necessary to know the density of amorphous substances. In the literature, I found that the density of a crystalline substance is used, as far as this is correct?
I would be very grateful for an explanation of this issue. Thanks in advance
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Hi Nasser Alhajj. This is an interesting decision, I think we should all pay attention to it)
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I want to proceed the experiment using optical fiber. However, there is a problem. In one of the processes, the temperature reaches almost 600 degrees(Celsius). I know that the glass transition temperature of the soda lime glass is around 600 degrees.
In addition, the commercial glass optical fiber is consisting of 3 parts, core(pure silica) cladding(doped silica),and buffer layer(polyimide). The company says that this fiber can endure even at 400 degrees because of the polyimide, which is heat-resisting polymer. But, I think that it can endure up to 600 degrees if there is no polymer. Is it true? I will use the fiber as just a substrate, so I don't need any other layer except the core.
After I etch the polymer, what is the limit temperature for the glass optical fiber? 
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the commercial glass optical fiber is comsist of core and cladding, core is doped with GeO2, cladding is pure solica. the pure silica can be used under 1600C but the dopant can't. If you want to monitor the temperature base on the optical fiber, I suggest you use FBG sensor. After writing FBG on the commercial optical fiber and then you can regenerate the FBG, then the FBG sensor can be used under 1000C. There is another option is to use the PCF which is made from pure silica.
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My DSC curve (Figure1) do not show a horizontal shape. It may be related to the calibration, even though we recently calibrated the instrument.
In any case, the software offers an option in the settings tab: DSC/DTA Horizontal on/off (Figure 2). Using this mode, the curve changes to what I would expect and what is reported in the literature (Figure 3). Does this setting affect my analysis (glass transition, ...)? Can I rely on this setting to perform my analysis?
The glass transition isn't clearly visible in my curve (Figure 1), but when I apply DSC horizontal mode, I can clearly see it (Figure 3).
If I can use this setting, how/where should I set the segment (Figure 4)??
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"... My DSC curve (Figure1) do not show a horizontal shape. It may be related to the calibration, even though we recently calibrated the instrument.
Is this (Fig. 1) the blank line???
You can take your measurements without using the settings tab: DSC/DTA Horizontal in off !! And then subtract the blank line from the curve.
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Qualitatively at a certain temperature the higher the viscosity the higher the GFA. I wonder whether there is any theoretical or empirical equation describe this relation.
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Try this one: Viscosity and liquidus based predictor of glass‐forming ability of oxide glasses
  • August 2019
  • Journal of the American Ceramic Society 103(2)
  • DOI: 10.1111/jace.16732
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In the Gordon-Taylor equation, the values of Tg1 and Tg2 correspond to the glass transition temperature of the two components. I have a polymer flavonoid suspension (Soluplus-quercetin). In the DSC soluplus curve, glass transition is observed but no glass transition in quercetin (temperature range 25-350 ° C).
How can I use the Gordon Taylor equation in this case?
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To predict the Tg of a polymeric blend, the ratio and the Tg of each component are employed using Fox or Gordon Taylor equations. You may go through the Fox as well; however, the compound's properties need to be identified before using each of which. It is sometimes normal to no detect the Tg of a components using DSC for some reasons. Normally, the Tg derived from DMA and HDT is scientifically much more referable compared to DSC. You can certainly detect the Tg of your component using one of these two analyzing machines. So, you need to give them a try to do so.
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The Tg can be obtained from three regions from a DMA test result.
1. Onset point of Storage modulus(E')
2. Peak point of Loss modulus(E")
3. Peak point of Damping coefficient(Tan Delta)
Which Tg is taken for analysis?
If there are any conditionals for selecting one of these, what are they?
Thanks in advance.
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How to find the glass transition temperature of the polymer, if the corresponding step transition is so small that it is difficult to locate properly in the DSC curve?
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Dear all, though it concerns Tg of thin film, the following old RG thread is full of opinions, they may be of importance to take profit. My Regards
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I have a DSC curve from an amorphous material. I doubt that I can accurately determine the glass transition temperature. In reviewing the literature, I see that the glass transition temperature is chosen based on visual analysis. But if there are several thermal events or the crystallization peak greatly changes the scale of the curve? Is there a computer program (open access) that can determine the glass transition temperature from the analysis of the DSC curve? Or other Jedi tricks?
Thanks in advance
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How to calculate glass transition temperature from DSC curves?
How to calculate glass transition temperature from DSC curves polymer?  experimental results seems different from theory.
If suitable computer software is available for automatic calculation of the glass
transition temperature
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To evaluate the miscibility of a binary blend, two experimental methods are often used.
1. Phase morphology: whether it is homogeneous down to the molecular level. SEM can be used for the determination of phase morphology.
2. Glass transition temperature: whether the blend exhibits a single Tg. DSC is often used to evaluate the Tg values of a binary blend.
Furthermore, the crystallizable part in the polymers affects the phase separation.
Can anyone suggest literature (book, article...) to this topic, please?
It is also welcome to write detailed information on crystallization-induced phase separation in a polymer blend here.
Thank you in advance.
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Dear Shen Su, better would be if the blend forming components are specified. Please have a look at the following documents. My Regards
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What is the glass transition temperature (Tg) for self reinforced polypropylene (SRPP) thermoplastic composite. In some references Tg for polypropylene is about -20 ̊c. Does Tg for SRPP different with that? Is there any reference for this?
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T. S. Vo
, in case of PP the Tg does not depend on anything but iso tacticity.
reinforcement of any kind wont affect the main matrix of PP, not more than a few oC.
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I am researching a project where I am trying to create a co amorphous ternary drug-drug mixture of(warfarin-Naproxen-Benzamide)
N: B: All samples were heating up to 180 and cooled all the sampled 20 per minute.
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If you sample is a purely amorphous sample, then the first heating may observe the enthalpies relaxation (a peak rather than stage like transition like Tg). This is caused by the thermal history frozen in your sample. But to the presence of the overlapped peak, it is difficult to determine precisely the position of the Tg. Upon first heating, this thermal history will be wiped out. This may let you feel the Tg has shifted. Another reason is that the amorphous molecular chain structure approaches the true random structure after the relaxation, which is different from the previously frozen-in structure that may have a weak preferred structure. This will cause true physical change and reflect on the Tg shift.
In the case of a semicrystalline polymer, the same thing can happen in the amorphous region. However, crystallite are also present in the semicrystalline polymers that are acting a physical anchoring points. For some polymers, a clear region between the crystallites and amorphous region can be observed. This is called a rigid amorphous phase. This interphase exhibit Tg higher than the true amorphous Tg. By repeated heating, this interphase thickness would change that then lead to the shift of the Tg as well.
Finally, there is purely a mechanical reason why the Tg might shift. If the crystalline region is surrounded by a rigid armorphous region, the probability of mechanical stretching influencing this region is better than those structures purely dispersed in the system, albeit the concentration of those different structure as a whole may be the same. Based on the pure elastic theory prediction, you can demonstrate that the Tg position shift by the morphological change, rather than actual molecular structural change. This is purely mechanical reasons and has nothing to do with the molecular rigidity change. See the reference shown below. In this paper, rubber interphase is used. However, the same think is expected to happen if rigid amorphous region surround the crystallites.
Scott, C.; Ishida, H.; Maurer, F.H.J. Characterization of polyethylene/EPDM/silicon dioxide multicomponent composites by solid-state dynamic mechanical spectroscopy, J. Mater. Sci. 1991, 26, 5708-5716.
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Sometimes I am unable determine the required temperature to melt the glass composition. Is there any formula to estimate the glass transition temperature as a function of composition?
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A reliable calculation method for the glaze's maturity temperature and the degree of transparency and opacity is the formula unit of Hermann Seger
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The polymer is Polyethylene and the forcefield being used is Dreiding.
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Hi, after you properly equilibrated your polymer (simulated annealing), you set up a series of npT simulations and plot the density vs. T and try to fit two linears to find the Tg.
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Polymer gets softened at glass-transition temperature (Tg), so the bonding of two polymeric layers is possible.
What are the operating procedures for thermally bonding PDMS to PMMA?
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The Flexdym polymer created by Eden Tech is a great alternative PDMS. It's biocompatible, transparent, gas permeable and can be molded in just a couple of minutes. And it binds to a variety of substrates including PMMA. Here's a link: https://eden-microfluidics.com/
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I have made a UMAT subroutine to describe the mechanical behaviour of a shape memory alloy (SMA) following the Brinson model. However, I don't know how to make the Abaqus software know the original shape of a shape memory part so that when the glass transition temperature is applied, the SMA is able to recover its original shape.
Does anyone know how to make a part for example with a V shape (shape previously modified by applying a pressure to the part at the glass transition temperature) become completely straight, when the shape memory is applied?
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I am not sure which Brinson do you mean. But if you are sure that the model itself can capture actuation (not only superelastic loading), you must use the original configuration (in your case, completely straight) as your main model, then by inducing loads you could achieve the stress-induced phase transformation to martensite accompanied by shape change; afterwards upon applying temperature boundary conditions you can capture the shape recovery.
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Hello!
Kinetic research in the field of curing process is of great interest for me. It is okay, when some of epoxy resin based systems can be described in terms of usual second (n) order reaction models with additional autocatalysis and/or deceleration terms. Sometime we need to use so called diffusion factor function if reaction is complicated by glass transition temperature and deceleration term in usual from doesn‘t give us a good result of fitting.
I would like to know how do you usually start your model planing? I just interested in the way you calculate you model: directly with all terms or by part.
How can I find the best diffusion factor function?
Very many regards in advance
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I know what the difusion coefficient means, i actually meant the diffusion factor function (f_d) in model based approach for kinetic data estimation! This function equels to unity when there are no diffusion limitaions and approaches to zero if some kind of diffusion limitstions are observed during process.
Authors of some papers use it instead of DiBenedetto equetion which demands to know the exact dependence of glass transition temperature on cure degree.
So, the question is what is the best way to find the function I need to make it possible to describe the kinetic data in terms of diffusion limitation.
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I'm trying to model a transient heating process in COMSOL with a thin metal film on a polymer substrate. I'm trying to gain intuition into the mechanical and thermal properties as a function of temperature. In particular, how do the heat capacity and Young's modulus of polyimide change with temperature especially near or above the glass transition temperature.
Regards,
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The image is taken From Callister's Materials Science and Engineering.
After glass transition, the polymer chains are mostly free to rotate and wiggle, but cannot slide past each other until close to melting point. So, with temperature, why there is no continuous decrement of viscoelastic modulus (for a fixed applied strain, after same time)? Is this because the chain "freeing for movement" and "fleeing for sliding past" are kinetically activated sharply beyond a certain temperature (say, Arrhenius kinetics), and in the plateau zone the glass-transition related chain "free to movement" activation is virtually close to 100% while melting related "free to slide past" activation is virtually zero?
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Hi Sumit,
the short answer to your question is yes I‘d think so. Obviously it’s material dependent as Martin mentioned and won’t occur similarly for every sample type.
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We have multiple samples of PHA polymers that are prepared differently. We would need Tg values with sufficient precision in order to compare the different samples, which will have relatively close Tg values. I believe values to at least 1oC would be sufficient.
I have been recommended to perform DSC testing at a heating rate of 1oC/min, performing multiple passes and repeating the test with replicate specimens to get the most accurate Tg. As far as I'm currently aware it isn't feasible to slow down the heating rate.
Are there any other ways of performing this test to ensure we have values precise enough for comparison or is performing multiple passes the best way of determining these values?
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You can use both DSC and DMTA
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Nowadays, prediction of some physical properties of glasses, namely, density, Young's modulus, shear modulus, hardness, glass transition temperature, thermal expansion coefficient, liquidus temperature, and refractive index. Using (AI) become one of the effective methods to know more and more about the structure of the glass nature.
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Hi Gamal
I think you can search the internationl magazines of the glass and ceramic
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Hi I was wondering if anyone could help with the interpretation of this DSC curve obtained for PLA powder. I'm unsure as to why there is a peak located at 113.9C. Most of the curves I see in literature show an exothermic event. 
The powder is being used used for additive manufacturing, with the addition of a filler, the powder is very prone to warping even when processed at temperatures close to the onset of melting. I believe that this is linked to stresses caused by crystallization, but from the DSC it shouldn't be crystallising at the temperatures im processing it at. If anyone can enlighten me as to what might be occurring i'd be really grateful! 
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hye, what if double peak at exothermic but the material is inorganic salt hydrate? why this happen?
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Would Tg, glass transition temperature remain constant at different applied %Strain?
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Dear Chandrika D Patel, it depends on initial Tg value, i.e., you are applying strain below (glassy state) or above (rubery-like state) Tg. In the glassy state the deformation is negligeable, so one may expect minor variation in Tg, if any. However, in the second situation where the deformation is favorable, regarding the possible chains orientation, it is expected to reduce free volume and increasing cohesion energy, these lead to a positive increase in Tg. Of course other parameters are to be considered, such as amorphous or at least semicrystalline polymer and strain rate and extent. In this later it is possible to reach the point of SIC (stress/strain induced crystallization). My Regards
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I know the approximate folding and unfolding rate constants, but not the exact concentrations or anything like that. Is there a way to determine a very coarse approximation for the relaxation time when the temperature is increased 2 degrees celcius? Two minutes or ten minutes or an hour?
Kfold=10^5.8
Kunfold=10^-4.1
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About the Deborah Number ― Referring to the Bible, Prophetess Deborah sang: "The mountains flowed before the Lord", celebrating victory over the Philistines. It is now scientifically established that mountains indeed "flow", considering the geological time scale. There are two different perspectives of time to be generally considered when a transient relaxation phenomena is observed; one that is intrinsic to the phenomena, another that relates to the experimental time scale. Born as a rheological concept, the dimensionless ratio between the 'time of relaxation' and the 'time of observation' was named Deborah number (De). References: M. Reiner, The Deborah Number, Physics Today, January 1964, p. 62; https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.3051374?journalCode=pto The following reference discusses the concept of Deborah number with regards to the glass transition:
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Hello everyone
I have done a DSC test on the poly-lactic acid by Mettler DSC set-up. As the result shows, there are three endothermic peaks in the red curve that I marked by the black color. It is obvious that peak number one belongs to the glass transition temperature, and peak number three is the melting temperature, but I don't know exactly what is the type of peak number two. I have this concern that the second peak might be the effect of impurity or a metastable modification in the polymer tested.
Any guidance, suggestion, or opinion would be helpful.
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For a polymer thermal analysis of the type of sample you have, you can first examine the TGA thermogram and identify the temperature range your polymer is stable. T hen, use DSC to heat to the temperature you are certain that your polymer is not degrading. Then, stop heating and cool the sample slowly in the DSC instrument, and start the heating cycle again. Any of those phenomena that are not reproducible, such as polymerization exotherm, impurity evaporation, anthalpic relaxation, etc will disappear in the second heating curve. Although impurity, including residual water, is a possibility for the second peak, what I am concerned is the slight exothermic event right before endothermic event that followed. Impurities usually do not show that. Have you made sure that you do not have residual lactic acid that did not polymerize?
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Hello all,
If we consider a polymer is heated till glass transition temperature at atmospheric pressure. Can we call it Enthalpy of Fusion ( Latent Heat of Fusion). I am confused, as on the internet there is nothing mentioned about transition point.
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Dear Rajesh Kolkundi,
The following link help you to compare the glass transition and melting region, which are different. As Mr. Abdelkader BOUAZIZ has mentioned, there isnot any especial defintion for the energy to pass the glass transition.
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I have a two graph ( TGA and DSC) of a biopolymer that I see decomposition starts around 170C. However once I run the DSC I do not see any melting or crystallization peak. Why?
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The crystallization process is complex, especially biopolymers, and depends on additives, as well as on heating and cooling time, so there is sometimes no support between the two characterizations.
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Dear friends
As we know, in real applications we must use GRE materials under the glass transition temperature (Tg). I have a E-glass Epoxy composite pipe and i'm working on the effect of hygrothermal conditions on it's performance. I'll do test on the different temperature below Tg. But which method can i use to determine Tg exactly ?
DSC or DMA ?
Which method is more confident?
I could not find suitable reference for this answer.
Can anyone help me on this ?
thanx
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The results of the dynamic mechanical analysis (DMA) different from (DSC) results, but the results remain according to the research requirements, but the preference remains to the dynamic mechanical analysis
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I want to use pa6 for additive manufacturing. My goal is to use the components above 200 degrees celsius. My part has be dimensionally stable at 200 degrees celsius. I am confused between Tg and Tm. I know that i can use pa6 above Glass transition temperature because it semi crystalline polymer but i want to know till what temperature i can use it.
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Below the glass transition temperature (Tg) an amorphous polymer is hard and relatively brittle, i.e. it is considered to be in its "glassy" state. Above the Tg the amorphous polymer assumes a viscous (or rubbery) state. In other words, above the Tg the polymer softens abruptly.
The melting temperature (Tm) is a peculiar characteristic of semi-crystalline polymers. Below Tm the crystalline domains in the polymer remain substantially unchanged (even at T>Tg), thus allowing the polymer to retain its shape even in the rubbery state. Above Tm the crystalline domains are fused and the polymer can finally flow as a viscoelastic fluid.
Some polymers show some degree of crystallinity (this is the case of poly[imino (1-oxohexane-1,6-diyl)], also known as polyamide 6 or Nylon 6). Semi-crystalline polymers exhibit both Tg and Tm. In the case of PA6: Tg = 40-60 ° C; Tm = 210-220 ° C, source: https://www.perkinelmer.com/CMSResources/Images/44-74863TCH_MPTGAndStructureOfCommonPolymers.pdf .
To use PA6 or PA6-GF30 in additive manufacturing, it is necessary to exceed Tm (for example, Prusa recommends a nozzle temperature of 250 ° C for a generic nylon filament: https://help.prusa3d.com/en/article/nylon_167188). The optimized temperature must be defined with a series of tests, taking into account the specific material/composite you want to use and the machine you want to use it on.
The final product should be stable up to 300 °C. This is generally the temperature above which nylon begins to decompose. Then again, this temperature should be defined for your specific material (a Thermogravimetric analysis, TGA, is sufficient) as it can vary depending on several factors. ( Schindler, A., Doedt, M., Gezgin, Ş. et al. Identification of polymers by means of DSC, TG, STA and computer-assisted database search. J Therm Anal Calorim 129, 833–842 (2017). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10973-017-6208-5 ).
Finally, nylon generally starts to flow above 220 °C, so an operating temperature of 200 °C for the final product may be too high. It depends on the stress that the product has to withstand.
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I'm trying to make some 3D printed microfluidic chambers on glass slides by using fused deposition modeling and printing directly on the glass. The problem of course is that due to differences in thermal expansion/contraction, the PLA falls off as soon as the glass/PLA interface cools due to thermal stresses. I've tried typical adhesives for printing like hairspray, etc. but these only really give a temporary bond until the material cools.
Are there any sprayable adhesives that could easily bond glass to PLA that I could use in a step by step mask method (printing the inside of the microfluidic chamber, spray the adhesive, remove the inside, print the outside chamber, etc.)?
Is there another way to get this to occur? I thought about poly-l-lysine treated glass as well, but I haven't had a chance to try that yet.
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I used silicone, the cold one (the one used for glass, mainly in showers and windows). It worked like a charm (also, I designed mi pla housing with some small tabs so I could make a better adjustment for the glass). If you have any doubts towards how to use it, just ask! Ill be happy to help.
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Is it possible for more than one glass transition range for a thermoplastic polymer. If so why and how? I need the exact answer of this question. Please help.
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Dear Harekrushna Sutar, if the polymer has a distinct blocks or a blend with low hmogeneity, different Tg values may be found. My Regards
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Dear all,
I conducted a differential scanning calorimetry (DSC) to investigate the miscibility of polylactic acid/polypropylene carbonate (PLA/PPC) blends. The blends were prepared by using the internal mixer with different time of mixing and rotational speed. (condition A : mixing time 5 minutes with speed 60 rpm; condition B: mixing time 10 minutes with speed 50 rpm). The results showed 2 glass transition temperature (Tg) on PLA/PPC (sample prepared in condition A), meanwhile, one Tg PLA/PPC for sample prepared by using condition B. My question is, does the conditions of sample preparation affect the miscibility of the polymer blends? is there any reference that I can rely on?
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Dear all, time and shear intensity go in concordance in reducing the agglomerates and phases dimensions for enhanced homogeneity. Please check the following documents. My Regards
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its a silicone based soft denture lining material(polydimethylsiloxane) with 3 triaminomethylsiloxane ionic liquid. please explain in detail the difference between the control and experimental groups.
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I did DMA test on several unsaturated polymers and am currently having problem interpreting the data. So I have determined the glass transition temperatures, the loss factor i.e. tan δ and also have the loss factor and storage modulus plotted against temperature. I know than high tan δ and low storage modulus correspond to good damper but I can't seem to draw a conclusion on what value do I consider as low when the moduli are plotted over temperature. Do I consider the value at the glass transition temperature? Also, other than dampening property I can't really decide on what other properties I should elaborate about. I have been reading some papers to help but I still can't really find a solution. Please help me, much appreciated!
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It's one of the project work I have to do for my master's degree course. I'm just investigating the properties using tensile test, DMA and also DSC. The polymers are unsaturated polymer resins.
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There are different values for Tg of PE in the literature. The values are (-78, -110, -125 deg C). Are these correct. As I ran a DSC for my HDPE sample (1mm and 3mm) and got this curve. As per my understanding, there is no transition for Tg. Looking for your expert opinion.
Attached is the file.
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Dear Hafiz Usman Khalid,
Tg of HDPE is lower than -100 ˚C. The minimum temperature for DSC analysis must be chosen at lower temperature (for example -120 ˚C) for HDPE to observe glass transition temperature.
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I have polymerized emulsions consisting of Methyl Methacrylate, Butyl Acrylate and Methacrylic Acid (around 20 degrees C Glass transition temperature) in various surfactant systems. I have found that Phosphate Esters give higher gloss levels in coatings than Sulfated Nonylphenol Ethoxylates. I also found that a smaller particle size does not necessarily mean higher gloss. What plays the biggest role in achieving higher gloss levels?
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So, major factors affecting gloss degree are discussed in the following links. My Regards
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Are two glass transition temperatures possible for a polyimide?
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Dear Simi ANNIE Tharakan
If the polymer like PA has two types of amorphous region (The rigid amorphous (RAF) and the mobile amorphous phase (MAF)), it can be possible to have two glass transition region. The difference between RAF and MAF is in the molecular mobility. The highest mobility belongs to the MAF. and the lowest to the RAF which has an intermediate mobility.
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I am using CF/epoxy (thermoset) and CF/PEEK (thermoplastic) composite for some thermal related research. The glass transition temperature of the epoxy is 165 ℃ and that of PEEK is 143℃. According to the literature, both thermoset and thermoplastic polymer can undergo a 'softening' period when the temperature reaches Tg. But what is the difference of the thermal response of thermoplastic and thermoset polymer when the temperature is around Tg? Is there any quantitative or qualititive conclusion with regard to the module loss of the two material? Looking forward to some discussion.
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Dear Ge Jia, this is a basic question treated in any textbook on mechanical properties of polymers. Concerning thermosets, Tg is an increasing function of the curing degree, and may reach the decomposition temperature. Some properties go up such the elastic modulus and chemical resistance, other go down such as brittelness. Thermoplastiocs show three different behaviors whether: crystalline, semi-crystalline, or amorphous. Theoritically speaking, crystalline polymers don't have any Tg, so no transition until Tm (melting) is reached, where a drastic decerase in mechanical properties is noticed. Semicrystallines show show two stages of response, specific to both amorphous and crystalline phases. Amorphous polymers have only Tg. Their melting (softening) is over a wide interval of temperatures. My Regards
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I am strugling a bit with filtration of air containing a sticky dust. It consists of polymer, water and some triethyl citrat. (current Tg around 20°C).
I would like to make air less sticky by forcing the polymer dust to be below the Tg for easier handling and dealing with hard/glass polymer? (To get Tg above 40°C)
As it is a waste, what compound should be mixed to achieve that?
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Dear Matevž Grabar, I am not really familiar by the process you are dealing with, but increasing Tg is usually aiming at increasing chain stiffness by different means. My Regards
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Understanding the mechanism behind the glass transition is one of those old problems that has resisted massive efforts and huge grants. Many different models have been invented and discussed and, with time, different schools of thought emerged (among theoreticians) to understand the glass transition. Two notable examples are the school of Kinetically Constrained Models (KCM) and the school of the Random First Order Transition (RFOT).
A huge part of the (theoretical) literature in the previous recent years, focuses either on the debate between these two visions, or on the many problems each of them finds in its own way after each step. This is why it is very difficult to find ideas detached from a given school of thought (at least in recent literature).
As a theoretician, I am naturally interested on the technical developments behind these approaches, nevertheless, I'm also curious about the original problem. So, if one could answer this question without any reference to the pre-existing theories and to their constructions, what are the empirical facts that any successful theory of the glass transition must be able to explain?
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Well Dear Prof. Reinaldo García-García
What about the use of the phenomenological approach to describe the kinetics of glass transition using the viscoelastic equation in Maxwell's solid-liquid environments.
I unquote and translate for you from Russian the following reference:
Phenomenological equations for the glass transition of a liquid by A. Olemsky and A. Khomenko. Technical Physics,, vol 70, no. 6, 2000.
"...Despite the great scientific and practical interest, the nature of the glass transition of a liquid remains the end of the clarified. This is primarily due to ambiguity in the interpretation of the most amorphous states.
Currently, there are three main directions.
  • In the first of them, which has a thermodynamic character, it is assumed that a phase of structural glass, which is described in principle the same as for spin glasses, - frozen disorder in the parameters of the interatomic interactions lead to frustrations and the resulting loss of ergodicity of the glass phase.
  • In the second approach, the glass transition is represented as a kinetic transition to a non-ergodic stationary state; there is evidence that such a transition is unrealizable [8].
  • Finally, a proposed scheme, according to which, upon glass transition, neither thermodynamic phase, nor stationary kinetic state, and there is a complete loss of stability metastable states of a liquid with its locking configurations in the regions of the phase space bounded by barriers of finite height...".
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Could it be a few maximums in polymer molecular weight distribution?
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Dear Sergey Nechausov, possible reasons are:
- existance of wide distinct chain lengths (broad MW distribution)
- maleimide polymerization is usually leads to -C-C- and -C-N- , banches and crosslinked chains
- possible other transitions that may be confusing with Tg
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I am modeling a hygroscopic (i.e. moisture-induced) swelling of the hydrogel matrix. The water from outside enters the hydrogel domain through diffusion. As the hydrogel will swell, the elastic modulus (E) of the hydrogel will keep on decreasing. I want to know whether there is any way I can computationally predict the change in the elastic modulus value using some relation.
I know there exists a relation between temperature-induced swelling and elastic modulus which is discussed in equation 11 (file attached). Please help?
Further adding to this question, if I know the change in glass transition temperature of hydrogel with moisture content, can I calculate the elastic modulus from there? Or is there a relation between glass transition temperature and elastic modulus?
Thankyou
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Dear Prateek Yadav, water acts in a similar way to a plasticizer. Models to descride thé plasticization effects are various, mainly for the case of PVC. So, depending on the features of thé gel you Can select the appropriate model. My Regards
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I am curious what it means when the loss modulus, E", never peaks during a DMA test (increasing temp / constant frequency). I would imagine that this material never dissipates energy over the course of the test, which seems odd. I would imagine there is some point where the energy put in would cause the chains to move. There is a clear tan delta peak as well, so there is definitely a Tg. What am I missing?
Also, just to make sure I am understanding a DMA run correctly. Another run did show the loss modulus spike about 30 C lower than the Tg (Here is a pic of the run: https://imgur.com/a/KMK47kT). This is an acrylate cured urethane elastomer. Does this means the energy being put in is enough to cause the chains to disassociate, but not enough to cause them to completely move around? I usually see the loss modulus spike near the Tg, but this sample is quite a bit lower. What would be the cause for the large gap between the loss modulus peak and the tan delta peak? Are the backbone chains moving, but the hydrogen bonded links still solid and finally break at the Tg?
Any insight you can share would be greatly appreciated.
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Sometimes the E'' peak can appear weak, especially if you are looking in the log scale. If you have a clear tan delta peak there must be a E'' peak somewhere near the E' drop. Try to change the scale into linear.
About your second question, from your pic I could give two explanations for your results: you have a phase separation so that you have 2 Tgs, and therefore 2 tan delta and E" peaks, or you have strong alpha transitions, meaning some pretty strong Rouse or sub-rouse mobility, due to side chains or small backbone units that can move. Check some literature about acrylates, since I know, at least from an NMR point of view, that they show some pretty peculiar mobilities.
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The question is coming because for the two phase transitions, one is characterized by sharp changes in enthalpy & the other stays as a diffused broad change (e.g., glass transition). Is it also possible that such phenomena are strongly material dependent? I mean, the same melting or glass transition would show exceptional changes in enthalpy as one changes the system of materials. Please send me some relevant research papers or book references on this topic. 
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Dear Lakshaman Kumar, you Can not take the amount of energy as as a parameter to differentiate between them, though 1st order give/take much energy compared to 2nd order. It is a matter of type of energy and way of change/relaxation. Please read carefully the text presented in the link below. My Regards
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I am doing the DSC of my compounds (small molecule, no polymer) before the decomposition temperature and I dont understand the non reversible peak I obtained on the first cycle. I also observe glass transition only in the following cycles.
Any idea on what does this mean ?
below : Two DSC curves corresponding to two slightly similar aromatic molecule with just different halogens group.
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I also suggest you to take your sample to an oven, under N2 atmosphere, at 300 ºC and take some infrared (compare using Al pan and a ceramic crucible). Aluminiun likes a lot halogens, the infrared can help you solving this puzzle.
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as i understand by increase the molecular weight of the polymer ,glass transition ( Tg ) increases but
why some polymer have high molecular weight but it is glass transition is lower than another polymer that have lower molecular weight
for example poly (hexyl methacrylate) have lower Tg than poly ( methyl methacrylate)
if we consider molecular weight we will find that poly (hexyl methacrylate) have higher molecular weight than poly ( methyl methacrylate)
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Factors Affecting Tg are:
1. Chemical Structure
Molecular Weight: In linear polymers, increase the MW leads to decrease in chain end concentration which results in decreasing free volume at end group region and increase in Tg.
Molecular Structure: Existence of bulky, inflexible side groups increases Tg of material due to decreasing in mobility.
Chemical cross-linking: Increase in cross-linking decreases mobility leads to decrease in free volume and increase in Tg
Polar groups: Presence of polar groups lead to increase intermolecular forces, inter chain attraction and cohesion leading to decrease in free volume resulting in increase in Tg.
2. Addition of Plasticizers
Addition of plasticizer increases the free volume in polymer structure, so the polymer chains can move around at lower temperatures which cause decreasing in Tg.
3. Water or moisture content
Increase in moisture content leads formation of hydrogen bonds with polymeric chains increasing the distance between polymeric chains. And, hence increases the free volume and decreases Tg.
4. Effect of entropy and enthalpy
The value of entropy for amorphous material is higher and low for crystalline material. If value of entropy is high, then value of Tg is also high.
5. Pressure and free volume
Increase in pressure of surrounding leads to decrease in free volume and ultimately high Tg.
Other factors like branching, alkyl chain length, bond interaction, flexibility of polymer chain, film thickness etc. also have significant impact on glass transition temperature of polymers.
The relation between length or number of monomer or molecular weight on glass transition temperature is described according to the Flory-Fox equation Tg= Tg∞ - K/Mn.
Tg∞: the maximum glass transition temperature of the polymer with an infinitive molecular weight
K: an empirical constant relating to the free volume of the end group in the polymer chains
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I was wondering what the difference is between the glass transition temperature and the ductile/brittle transition temperature? I know that Tg is the temperature where a polymer will go from a glassy state to a viscoelastic state. From my understanding when a polymer is under the Tg value it will be brittle and glassy. When a polymer is above the Tg value it will act rubbery and ductile. Is this correct?
I also know that the ductile/brittle transition temperature is the minimum temperature in which a material has the ability to absorb a specific amount of energy without fracturing. In other words it is the temperature in which a material will fail and crack because it has become so brittle.
I am just getting confused because I am trying to determine the temperature at which polyethylene will crack in the freezer and I don't know which value to use. For example, polyethylene has a glass transition temperature of -90°C, but it can crack if it is in a temperature of -70°C (DBTT). It does not make sense to me that polyethylene would crack while it is still in the viscoelastic state.
If anyone can explain the difference and clarify this up for me that would be great. Also, if anyone knows what value I should use to determine the cracking point of polymers due to freezing please let me know. Thanks!
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Dear Elizabeth,
There are some relations between glass transition and ductile/brittle transition which depends on the type of the polymers. They me be the same or there are some mathematical equations between Tg (glass transition) and Tb(brittle transition). It needs to explain with some graphs and mathematical equation.
I have attached some articles and one text which explain in details. I hope they would be useful.
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I'm studying the low temperature resistance elastomers. But I didn't find any good method to decrease Tg of the materials, by chemical modifications or by reinforcement. I need help.
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I have DSC thermograms that have already being plotted. At specific points on the graph, values denoted as Integral in mJ, onset, peak and endset in oC are provided. While I understand that the values in J/g represent enthalpy what does the integral value in mJ denote. Is it possible to have more than one glass transition temperature on the same thermogram?
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The unit of Heat capacity(mJ/g ˚C) and enthalpy(mJ/g).
Glass transition region usually does not appear as a peak. So, for this region onset temperature is not defined, but it is possible to determine the range of glass transition temperature. Moreover, for blend of two polymers (e.g. starch and PE) two region appear as glass transition region.
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Hi, I'm planning to make some ionic liquid gated transistor.
But the problem is famous ionic liquid, DEME-TFSI has a glass transition below 180K.
But I need to lower the temperature till 70K.
Is there any other option that i can choose for the ionic liquid?
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Here's a good reference to an ionic liquid that may not freeze down to very low temperatures (down to −150 °C):
Reiter, Jakub (2 Sep 2012). "Fluorosulfonyl-(trifluoromethanesulfonyl)imide ionic liquids with enhanced asymmetry". Physical Chemistry Chemical Physics. 15 (7): 2565–2571.
I hope you find this useful.
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I am getting slightly different values of Tg from both DSC and DMA. The DMA results are giving me higher values of Tg compared to DSC. Which values should I trust?
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Dear Tayyab Khan,
Two important applications of DMA are:
1. Measurement of the glass transition temperature of polymers
2. Polymer Composition
In the glass transition region, the storage modulus declines sharply and the loss modulus reaches to the maximum level.
DMA is more sensitive than DSC. The weight of the sample that is used for DMA analysis usually is more than that used for DSC analysis. Therefor, for obtaining thermal equilibrium, it is recommended to use low heating rates for example 2˚ C/min. In this way you can rely on the obtained results from DMA to measure the Tg.
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I am actually working on pharmaceutical formulations with thermoplastic polymers such as "copovidone or Kollidon VA64 and active ingredients like "Paracetamol". When i was running DSC with pure polymers, i used to do heat-cool-heat cycle (25-250 at 10°C/ min) in order to obtain the glass transition temperature (103 °C). Now, I am producing extrudates of KVA64 with Paracetamol and I am trying to determine solid state change of the Paracetamol (which is crystalline and have melting peak at 170°C) and check if I obtained a solid amorphous dispersion. However, by applying the heat-cool-heat cycle method to the physical mixture or the extrudates, i only fitnd in the 2nd heat a glass transition temperature without the melting peak characteristic of the Paracetamol even though on XRD there a some cristalline peaks. I think during the 1st heating, I amorphized the Paracetamol within the copovidone and the 2nd heating displays the thermal profile of this in-situ solid amorphous dispersion and not my original product. Could you suggest me some solutions to this issue? Thanks in advance
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Looking at these DSC records I would say that there is practically no crystalline paracetamol in extrudate or physical mixsture, it seems that paracetamol is soluble in KVA. Maybe there are some traces of crystalline phase which can be detected by XRPD.
If KVA64 and paracetamol form solution (they clearly do) and crystalline paracetamol is present, then the melting point of paracetamol in mixture should be shifted to lower temperatures (Van't Hoff equation).
Since I don't see any melting, I would say that paracetamol is in glassy state. It forms a solution with KVA64 during the first heating of the physical mixture. When cooled down, the mixture does not crystallize and amorphous paracetamol is obtained.
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I am currently doing some work on sub-Tg physical ageing of polymers, and doing my modeling using the TNM framework.
I have been successful in implementing the TNM model in the non-isothermal case, but I am struggling to implement the isothermal case (see attached -. Eq. 4 from Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, 378 (2013) 186-195). The issue that I am having trouble understanding is how the Tf evolves during this isothermal step - because this is isothermal, won't the summation of "delta T_j" multiplied by the nested summation (relaxation term) always equal to zero, given that delta T during an isotherm is equal to zero?
I am implementing the model in Matlab. If anyone could give me some insight here and help point me in the right direction, I would be extremely grateful!
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Dear All,
I'm working on matrix encapsulation with different polysaccharides and especially Acacia gum (also called Arabic gum) and Maltodextrine at different DE values.
After research on Internet and in scientific journals, I didn't find a Handbook or a database of the Tg value of polysaccharides?
Have you these data? If yes, can you share them with me or the reference of the publication where I can find them?
Thanks in advance
Bastien
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No unfortunatly :-(
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Hi all,
I need to find out what is the glass transition temperature. Hopefully you could help me out a bit.
Below is the data I have got:
Onset: 138 C
Mid: 158.5 C
Inflection: 141.3 C
End: 128.2 C
Delta Cp: 1.107 J/(g*K)
Best Regards
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The best method to select may depedn on what kind of glass you want to study: polymer glass or silicate glass maybe metallic glass? In the case of polymers I woudl suggest either DSC or DMA (dynamic mechanical analysis). Be aware of the fact the the actual values depends on the method, as Tg is not thermodynamic transition, rather a kinetic one depending on the measuring frequency (or heating rate)
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Hello,
Is curing temperature dominate glass transition temperature in shape memory polymers (Tg). I mean, is it possible to adjust Tg by varying curing and post curing temperatures.
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Janitha
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Hi;
Absolutely yes, it is possible to adjust Tg by varying parameters of curing temperatures.
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I have used LY 556 and HY 951 in a 10:1 ratio and cured at room temperature for one week. Has anyone determined the glass transition temperature for this combination when cured at room temperature?
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You should be able to determine glass transition (Tg) of your specimen by using Differential Scanning Calorimetry (DSC). However due to your mixing ratio and cured at room temperature, I suspect your specimen is under cured. So, your specimen Tg might still at sub-zero region.
For confirmation, take approximately 5 to 10 mg of cured sample to run a heat cool heat cycle using DSC. First heating cycle start from -80°C to 200°C. Then cool down to 20°C for second heating cycle from 20°C to 200°C. You should get three information from this test.
1. Specimen Tg should be observed from first heating cycle at the region between sub-zero to room temperature. In case you observed relaxation, high chance your Tg signal been masked. This is quite often happen in tropical country where specimen are exposed to moisture during long curing time at ambient. If relaxation observed, use modulated DSC to separate the Tg from relaxation because the former is reversible reaction while the latter is non-reversible reaction [1]. If conventional DSC is used, more steps required but still able to measure Tg after eliminate relaxation. Just carefully not to postcure the sample.
2. Residue cure can be observed as exothermic enthalpy at latter region of the first heating cycle. In this case, your sample is postcuring at the temperature where the exothermic heat flow observed. If residue cure is observed, degree of cure can be calculated by repeat another DSC on freshly mixed resin to obtain total enthalpy of the system [1]. Please take note if mixing ratio changed, the total enthalpy will change and make sure same ramp rate to be used for degree of cure calculation.
3. Full cured Tg can be determined from second heating cycle. This is the Tg of the fully cured system. However, the value is usually lower than freshly mixed sample. If residue cure observed in second heating cycle, the sample is not fully cured. Assuming nothing wrong with the mixing ratio to fully cure the sample, increase final temperature of first heating cycle but be careful not to char the sample. Alternatively, use slower ramp rate to allow enough time for the sample to cure.
Hope explanation above could help you.
Tan
Reference:
[1] Liu et al (2013), Heat transfer analysis and cure modelling of composite repairs for pipelines, Journal of Reinforced Plastics and Composites 2014, Vol. 33(6) 586–597 DOI: 10.1177/0731684413514124
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Hello,
I found that many researchers used, different settings (Heating rate, frequency, thickness… etc.) in DMA testings. To obtain glass transition temperature(Tg), what is the standard we should follow?
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Janitha.
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Concerning heating rates i would advice to use reasonable low values especially if materials with low thermal conduction and thick samples are tested.
Two points to consider:
1. You will inevitably get a temperature gradient across your sample which can have an influence on your test result. Here the test mode has an additional influence as e.g. in bending the temperature of the outside layer has a stronger influence as e.g. in tension or compression.
2. If the evaluation of the measurement uses several single oscillations (e.g. 20) for a single datapoint to reduce noise of the data the thermal conditions change already considerably during these 20 oscillations for a heating rate of 5K/min. At 1Hz the temperature change would be already 1.2K for lower frequencies the influence becomes much bigger.
Both effects could be accepted if always the same (comparable) samples are measured for comparison (quality control).
But for the same material with and without a filler (e.g. carbon black in a polymer) there can be already an influence which could only be evaluated if different heating rates are used and compared.
The same applies for measurements of the same material with different thickness values.
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I am dong DMA test for composites with a different weight percentage of nano fillers. My results are showing the decrease of glass transition temperature with increasing the nano practicals. 
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Hi
When increase the nano sillier content the amount of free volume decreases. This reduction in free volume reduces the mobility of atoms and increase the friction by large contact in polymer. So the storage modulus and tan delta get decreases.
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hello there, i have been working on the ternary chalcogenide glasses with selenium, tellurium and bismuth as constituents . i studied the thermal behaviour of the compound with the help of differential scanning calorimetry. and it was observed that first with incorporation of the bismuth on expense of tellurium in small amount to the binary se-te lead to the decrease of the glass transition temperature of the compound but with further increment of the bismuth on the expense of tellurium leads to the increase of the glass transition temperature of the alloy , i am unable to explain the process .suggest some reading, research papers it will be great help.
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I think it may be related to the so called " average coordination value ".
This paper may help you:
Yang G, Bureau B, Rouxel T, et al. Correlation between structure and physical properties of chalcogenide glasses in the As x Se 1− x system[J]. Physical Review B, 2010, 82(19): 195206.
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After a DSC run, I've noticed the pan has expanded during the run. This affects the result and disruption in the curve occurs in the region where I am expecting glass transition to occur. This occurred with sample weight of 3mg, 5mg and 7mg. When the pans didn't expand after a run, a normal curve was observed. So what causes the pans expansion?
(in the images attached, same sample was run twice, one where the pan expanded and one where it did not)
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Qin Tianyou Thank you for your suggestion. Is that recommended for solid samples as well?
James E Hanson and Jarosław Ferenc Thank you for your responses and feedback. My samples are zein nanofibers hence are dry already. I have also observed similar outcomes with cyclodextrin powder.
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Dear Sir/Ma'am
I want to know the effect of frequency within temperature range from room temperature to let say 250 C on loss modulus, storage modulus and glass transition temperature.
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The effect of frequency is similar to changing the temperature ramp rate change. The higher the frequency, the higher the transition temperature (same is true for other properties that will show higher values in terms of temperature). Thus, with higher frequency (or scan rate) the higher Tg would be observed.
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Dear fellow researchers,
I'm investigating the influence of the post-curing process on DLP-printed polyacrylate parts. Therefore, my experimental setup contains two brown parts -which were post-cured for 15 min and 60 min under UV-radiation - and a green part. In the attachments you can find the recorded DSC-data including the first and second heating cycle (first curve=60min, second curve =15 min and third curve=green part). Whereas, the second heating cycle exhibits clear glass transition temperatures, the first one is difficult to interpret. Does the first maxima of each curve relate to the glass transition temperature and can anyone explain why there are two maxima for the 60min post-cured part? Furthermore, is it possible to determine the glass transition temperature by analyzing a maxima? The exothermic process of the green part and the 15min post-cured part between 150-200 °C shows the incomplete crosslinking reaction. Thank you very much in advance.
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Markus
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The curing process is always very complicated. Check the curing conditions accurately. For better interpretation of the results, run DMA measurements which in many cases are more reliable than the DSC ones.
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I'm searching a elastomer material can be used below -200℃, i.e. glass transition temperature below -200℃.
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I do not think so. Side or main chain modification of silicones may reduce Tg few degree of celcius. But, it is a very challenging case.
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Attached is my DSC curve.
My polymer is regioregular P3HT (regioregularity ~ 90%)
From DSC curve, it lost the glass transition peak to totally flat after and its melting point decreases by 7oC after the 1st cycle. I guess the high cooling rate make the polymer become less order and shift the melting point to the left but what happen with my glass transition step?
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In practice, heating-cooling-heating experiments are used to eliminate the thermal history of material. Consequently, the second heating run is very different to the first run. In the second heating run, the glass transition step is smaller or sometimes (according to the type of polymer and if it is thermoplastic or thermoset) it disappears completely. This means that the content of amorphous material is lower and the crystalline content larger than in the first heating run. During the cooling cycle the sample had enough time for crystallization to occur (The crystallization peak is clearly visible in the cooling curve). Crystallization results in a decrease in the amorphous content and a corresponding increase in the degree of crystallinity.
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I want to determine Tg of lyophilized protein solution with excipients.
I don't see any sharp changes in heat flow associating with Tg. Sometimes there is sharp change in heat flow as you can see at the first picture, but if I repeate the analysis the DSC curve would be different. What I am doing wrong? Should always the lyophilized protein solution have a glass transition between 0 °C and 200 °C?
My procedure is:
  1. Heat from 0 °C to 200 °C with 3 °C/min
  2. Hold for 1 min at 200 °C
  3. Cool from 200 °C to 0 °C with 15 °C/min
  4. Hold for 1 min at 0 °C
  5. Heat from 0 °C to 200 °C with 3 °C/min
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Don't use the same sample to run a second time ramp since the sample may had irreversible changes during the first ramp. If you do use different sample for each run, make sure the sample weights are close.
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Hi & good day,
I am currently analyzing my data that obtained from the dynamic mechanical analysis. There are few factors that i thought may influence the glass transition value as well as tan delta value.
Thank you in advance
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I agree with Abdulkader. The increase in crosslink density makes it difficult for segmental mobility during glass transition. It requires more energy at higher crosslink density and shifts the Tg to higher temperature. Similarly tandelta will shift to higher temperature. The damping value will be lower due to resistance in mobility.
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Water and moisture can cause some uncured polymer characteristics like storage modulus, glass transition temperature, viscosity, gelation and relaxation time of polymers to be changed. Recognition of these parameters affected by the moisture is essential and should be addressed at first.
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Adhesion is the attraction of molecules of one kind for molecules of a different kind, and it can be quite strong for water, especially with other molecules bearing positive or negative charges. ... This is because the water molecules are more strongly attracted to the sides than to each other.
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The glass transition temperature of PLLA is about 55~60 degrees. I would like to have Tg in the range of 30~40 degrees.
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@Arun Prakash V R
Thanks for your answer!
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I want to find the glass transition temperature of cross-linked epoxy where the system has been cooled down from 600 K to 300 K using molecular dynamics. How can I get the optimum cooling interval say, 10K for 500 ps, 20K for 500 ps, 5K for 10 ps? What are the effects of different cooling rates on the glass transition temperature?
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Hi Shegufa Shetranjiwalla-Merchant
In epoxy resins how the cooling reaction will exist, since they are thermosetting plastics... While cross linking takes place exothermic reaction occurs and liberate heat....
So in heating only the Tg can be observed is it?
Please clarify this.
Best
Arunprakash Vincent
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I have heat treated and UV exposed PVA films which significantly varied the Tg and mechanical properties. However, I am unable to co-relate any relation between these two. Is there any explanation how Tg can effect mechanical properties?
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Md Musavvir Mahmoud,
I expect the heat treatment and UV irradiation has changed the polymeric structure of your samples.
There could be possible degradation or cross linking which will either increase or decrease your Tg and also decrease or improve mechanical properties.
There is a direct effect of the treatment process on the structure of your polymer and therefore on the thermal and mechanical properties such as Tg and stress/strain of your polymer.
I suggest you check the FTIR or NMR of your polymer to investigate how the structure has been affected.
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Can you please help me to explain each event on this DSC curve.
I suppose these peaks are due to the following reasons:
1. The first exothermic peak on the cooling curve is when crystallization appears.
2. The first little peak on the heating curve (I attached the second picture to illustrate it closer as it's intensity is very low) is glass transition. But can be a glass transition peak so weak?
I wonder if I used a correct procedure for the determination of Tg.
3. The second peak on the heating curve is melting.
Where is an eutectic temperature on this curve? I believe it is a big second peak on the heating curve, but I'm not sure.
Sample: protein solution 50 µl
Reference: empty pan
Here is my procedure:
Initial heat flow: 20 mV
1) Hold for 1.0 min at 20.00°C
2) Cool from 20.00°C to -40.00°C at 5.00°C/min
3) Hold for 1.0 min at -40.00°C
4) Heat from -40.00°C to 20.00°C at 5.00°C/min
5) Hold for 1.0 min at 20.00°C
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Drear Elizaveta Belova,
According to my knowledge, your hypothesis about the peaks are totally true.
But, in order to respond to your question about weak Tg area it should be mentioned that having low heat rate (as you mentioned =5.00°C/min) can lead to weaker Tg region.
I recommend you to check fig.5 in following address:
Your sincerely
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Hi,
I'm trying to find the Tg of some specific bituminous material. I'm working with Q250 TA instrument MDSC. I was trying to find by using tangent method on reversing heat flow graph as it was mentioned in literature but by it's highly related to the start point of the tangent. Is there any other way that is less sensitive as I need to do this test on aged materials too?
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Hello Alireza,
In the TA Instruments software where you analyse your data (Universal Analysis) you should see an Options icon. When you click on the icon, there are variables that you can choose. While determining the Tg, one way to be sure is to choose the 'derivative' option and look for the inflections for calculation of Tg. Glass transition is a derivative process and can be inferred using that calculation.
There will also be a help section under the TA instruments software on finding the Tg from the heat capacity. See the help section to find the Tg using these values.
The following powerpoint presentation maybe of some help to you.
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In the attached file is dsc of my sample. I have numbered the peaks seen inthe graph. I am seeing three peaks endothermic other than melting. so can u u identify which one is glass transition peak
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thanks for your answers
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out of the endothermic peaks which is the glass transition temperature
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Dear colleagues
My main research work is development of infrared optical glasses.
For these glasses I use the Cr2O3-Mn2O3 colorants system. Also I consider the influence of iron oxide (it presences in glass melt as a dopant of raw materials) on spectral curve.
During my research I discovered some strange fact.
After the heat treatment (800 С during 4 minutes) glass change its spectral characteristics (picture 1: 1 - after; 2 - before heat treatment)
I guess that this effect is possible due to the follow. Due to nonstabil of colorants state and heat energy influence the manganese oxide (III) partially goes into manganese oxide (II) while part of iron oxide (II) is oxidized to iron oxide (III).
Mn2O3 + 2 FeO = 2 MnO +Fe2O3
This assumption is confirmed by the transmission increasing at 1050nm wavelength.
But I can't find any information for full confirm this theory.
How do You think this theory is true and what main points could be missed?
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The IR and/or NMR examinations will give you the answer about your question. Additionally I would rather say that the observed changes are result of nucleation in your samples.