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Scientists interested in Gamma spectrometry. I have written an open source Python program for Gamma spectrometry, it launches in your default browser and it is so easy to use you should not need the manual.
The program is compatible with any sound card spectrometer like the Gammaspectacular, as well as serial devices by Atom-Spectra.
Source code here:
Mac app bundle here:

Is it possible to compute the peak-to-background ratio for the case of a doublespeak, that is when two peaks are not resolved completely?
So far we have (Figure attached), tying to get the p/B ration for the second peak (peak 1)
1.) Counts under peak 0
2.) Counts under peak 1
3.) Total counts under the combined region
As I understand merely subtracting the 3.) -1.) -2.) will give background counts for both peaks, however only background under peak 1 is required.
Thank You

Hello, dear community! ,
I am working on gamma-ray spectrometry data to delineate K-enrichment areas. I have created the maps using Geosoft, but I get errors when I use the K/eTh ratio (a map with few contours). I don't know what I am doing wrong.
Can anyone please help me?
Thank you
Staff handeled with radiation related job need to be investigated indeed
Dear colleagues,
recently there was a question here on RG about a mysterious high energy shoulder of a gamma peak.The real reason for that is unknown up to now.
One of my ideas is EMI interference with cell phone radiation.
It is well known, that cell phone (handy) radiation affects/irritates sensitive electronic equipment.
A HPGe detector is such a sensitive device.
Does anybody of you have performed tests about that issue; are there any experiences?
Any contributions are welcome...
Thanks in advance and best regards
G.M.
gamma spectrum
Genie 2000
analysis
Dear community,
I am using a HPGe detector to measure the activity of a neutron-activated foil sample (InAl), which can be used in neutron spectrum unfolding.
A problem showed up is that the gamma spectrum recoreded by HPGe now shows full peaks with a "shoulder" on high energy side, as shown in the attached figure labeled with In-115(n,gamma)In-116m.
Other irradiated samples are meausred using this HPGe, but the aforementioned phenomenon in gamma spectrum doesn't occur, as shown in the attached figure labeled with La-139(n,gamma)La-140.
My collegue had suggested a possible cause that the unstable voltage supply during the measurement. But it has been excluded after the installation of uninterruptible power supply.
What will be the cause of the "shoulder" in the full-energy peak of certain sample? And, how to cope with it?
Sincerely,
Zhao-Ming Pan
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Editted at 2021-May-27 19:51
Dear Dr. Gerhard Martens,
Here is the complete spectrum and its .Spe file. The decay gamma of In-116m is specified in red with corresponding annotation (fitted energy).
Also specified on the spectrum are the detector live time, real time and dead time. The Gross/Net count rate are 86.87 / 77.26 cps for the 1292 keV peak.
The lower level discrimination is set 50 which equals to 17.33 keV. However, the HPGe recorded spectrum starts from channel 132 (45.74 keV) when measuring the In-116m foil sample.
The set-up is remained the same when measuring different samples. None of the collimator, shielings and distances are changed.
The detector model is Canberra GC2520 coaxial HPGe.



Recently we have installed Gamma spectrometry set up at our institution. It has NaI flat type detector of size 3"x3". To analyze soil, sand, rock, and other environmental samples we require suitable plastic beakers. Probably Marinelle beakers are the best ones for the purpose. Whom we can contact in India to purchase these beakers? Are there any other companies that provide containers of the same quality? If not Marinelle, which type of beakers are generally used? Please give me iinformation. Thanks in advance.
when we measure the specific activity of any sample using Gamma spectroscopy , we always keep the prepared sample in a locked marnilli beaker for one month or more to let radio nuclides in the sample reach the secular equilibrium , but practically do you think this processes effect on the results? and what is the expected error rate in the measurement if we measure the samples immediately with out equilibrium .
I am making a simulation of energy deposited of some radioactive sources in scintillation detector. I have some results, but I don't have the same distribution energy between experimental spectra and simulated spectra. I do not know why.
For instance, the spectra of Cs-137 is shown. However, it does not have the same resolution.
Someone who can help me how to improve the simulation.
The scintillation detector is of NaI:Tl.

An interesting situation emerged on analysis of ICP-MS samples which had to be compared with gamma spectroscopy results. For other radionuclides activity concentrations, such as U-238 and Th-232 results, were comparable except those of K-40. The results obtained on ICP-MS were approximately 50x less than those from gamma for all samples. As a research, which method would be tangible to use to obtain results that are in agreement with gamma spec, provided that all analytical instruments are well calibrated with certified standards?
Hello,
Which methods do you use to correct or smooth the effects of negative or zero values in gamma-ray spectrometry surveys?
Provided that your values were well collected and processed.
I am asking this because ratio maps, where negative values in both numerator and denominator can give false positive or even misleading peaks if the denominator is zero.
How do you manage to deal with those values? I am reading articles about it from IAEA 1991 (Technical reports series n.323) and Minty 2011 (On the use of radioelement ratios). However, I did not understand the part where you can progressively sum elemental concentrations from adjacent observation points in the vicinity until the accumulated concentration exceeds a threshold value.
Best regards,
We have a shrimp sample from IAEA for proficiency test and as per the requirement of IAEA we want to identify and quantify radioactivity in that sample. We have taken a sample count for 90000 sec.
Suppose we got the gross count for K-40 (1460.822 keV) is 1.03E+04 with an area uncertainty of about 121.69.
Before the measurement of the sample, the gamma background at laboratory site was determined with an identical empty plastic container used in the sample measurement.
The background gross count for 1460.822 keV was found as 8.71E+03 with an area uncertainty of about 111.49. We can easily calculate the net count rate from the mentioned information.
But my question is how to calculate Net count rate uncertainty.
I want to measure the ambient dose of Am-Be neutron source filtered by a standard slab phantom. I measure the neutron flux moderated by a slab phantom using an activation foil by gamma spectroscopy and I wont to calculate the corresponding dose.
Can I use the conversion factor of the thermal neutron as reported in the ICRP -74 or use the conversion factor of the Cf-225 filtered by D2O.
Documented answer is appreciated.
Suppose we have 10 L of sea water sample and we want to determine the activity of gamma emitting radionuclides in it. Is it required to concentrate this sample prior to gamma spectrometry analysis or we can use a portion (e.g. .5 or 1 L) of the sample directly?
During the interference Correction of the 226Ra 186.2 keV line by the 235U 185.7 keV some authors (F. De Corte et al, 2005) use the formula as given in attachment:
Where, Ig, is the gamma-ray intensities,
εp, is the peak detection efficiencies,
COI, is the correction factors for true coincidence summing

Dear colleagues, I have a project about the plants, in my project I measure the specific activity of the detected radionuclides by gamma spectroscopy, and I need to compare the calculated results with the recommend limits of the specific activates of U-238 , Th-232 ,and K-40 radionuclides of the plants not of the soil or the building materials .
Methods for the determination of radium isotopes in environmental solids by gamma spectrometry can be obtained by two means, the direct measurement of the principal photopeaks (186 keV in the case of 226Ra), and indirect measurement using the gamma radiation emitting progeny.
The advantage of using the direct measurement method, particularly for 226Ra, is that the sample can be prepared and measured immediately without the need for progeny ingrowth. The disadvantages of this method relate primarily in that the emission probability of this gamma photopeak is quite weak (3.28%), and furthermore by the presence of the interfering primary gamma emission of 235U at 185.7 keV that has a higher photon emission probability of 57.24%. While 235U generally presents at a much lower activity concentration than 226Ra in environmental samples, it has an effective photon emission of ~ 2.6% at this energy (assuming a natural U isotopic ratio). The energy resolution of currently available HPGe spectrometers is generally considered insufficient to separate the two peaks. If no chemical separation is carried out initially, quantification of 226Ra via the 186 keV gamma line must be conducted by attempting to quantify the contribution of the 235U isotope to the doublet peak.
Suppose in a background gamma spectrometry, I want calculate detection limit for 662 keV. The net peak area is zero. Compton continuum background is x counts. LD = 2.71 +3.29 (B)^0.5.
Whether B = x here?
Pl see the attached image. I want to calculate the detection limit using the following formula LD = 2.71 +3.29 (BACKGROUND COUNTS)^0.5
In 200 keV region there is a visible peak (assume >LC). In 300 keV region there is no visible peak (assume <LC).
What value for 'BACKGROUND COUNTS' should I use in both cases? In 200 keV energy, should I use gross counts as 'BACKGROUND COUNTS' i.e. a+b and what about in the case of 300 keV case? Pl reply.
The analysis was done in 50% efficient HPGe
I want to create some specifically designed spectra for Canberra's Genie 2000 software (CAM files). For this purpose, I need to manipulate the single channel counts of the files. Is there a Genie 2000 tool (in the GENIE2K\EXEFILES folder) that offers me the functionality
- a) to read channel counts of CAM files,
- b) to set the channel counts?
I know that Genie 2000 can import and convert from a variety of different spectrum formats. However, as the input data are in the CAM format, I would be happy if I could directly work on the CAM files.
Thank you for your help!
Dear colleagues, I have a project about the plants, in my project I measure the specific activity of the detected radionuclides by gamma spectroscopy, and I need to compare the calculated results with the recommend limits of the specific activates of U-238 , Th-232 ,and K-40 radionuclides of the plants not of the soil or the building materials .
i have (RGU-1 , RGTh-1 , RGK-1 )certified reference materials in my gamma spectroscopy lab and want to analyse water and vegetable samples and did not have water or vegetable standerds .
using HPGe detector.
what is the fastest method to measure 100 ppm of the heavy elements in the solid food products, plastic,and water? XRF can, but what is the best company and model? neutron activation can be used but you need a good infrastructure for that and a team. Gamma spectroscopy and HPLC-MS are good. what do you have more? technically.
Fresh olive fruits were collected and grinded to paste (oily kind of slurry). The intetion is to analyse for U-238, Th-232 and K-40 using gamma spectroscopy.
I am working in a big project to map oil and gas NORM worldwide.
I need a big amount of values of the same oil field or platform
I need to know the following:
1- Reference date used for this sample type is: start of the sampling date? or End of sampling date?
2- For radionuclides Pb-212, Bi-212 in general we use the half time of Th-232 for decay correction. But in this case should I use the half time of Pb-212, Rn-220 or Th-232?
Hello,
for already determined distribution coefficients in different systems aqueous solution/resin, via gamma spectroscopy, Is there a way to determine a stability constant in order to strengthen the description and discussion of the data?
The only available data is the gamma measurements.
Redoing the experiment via the pH determination will be an entirely different endeavor.
Hello,
I have seen that minimum curvature gridding of .gdb is more suited when you have random distribution of data while Bi-directional gridding (BIGRID) is more convenient when the flight lines are in a parallel direction.
However, I was told that for the gamma-ray spectrometry data (described below) I should use minimum curvature because of the time sampling and BIGRID for the magnetic data. It is said that minimum curvature is more common for gamma-ray .gdb gridding.
I would like to know which type of these two interpolation techniques I should use (for both gamma-ray and magnetic data).
My grids in Oasis Montaj did not show a significant difference when I interpolated the data using both methods. Nevertheless, I wish I knew the answer for this issue.
I would appreciate if you could suggest me any articles that discuss this topic.
The specifications of the airborne survey are:
Spacing between flight lines: 500 m
Flight height: 100 m
Direction of flight lines: N-S
Time sampling: 0,1 s magnetometer
Time sampling: 1,0 s spectrometer
Direction of control lines: E-W
Spacing between control lines: 10 km
Note: The interpolation is for flight lines only (I am not using tie lines).
Best regards,
I am currently working with airborne gamma-ray surveys of Brazilian Amazon region.
With the same array of surveying, the same kind of detector, aicraft, etc... the data from Potassium channel of the Amazon region has much more noise than the others surveys from central Brazil, or southern Brazil.
What comes to my mind is something related to the weathering process. But, even in fresh rock areas from the Amazonia, the signal-to-noise rate is very poor, and I don't really think that's the cause.
Anyone has a guess?
I'm sending two maps for comparison purposes. The first is from Rondonia state, northern Brazil, and the second is from Minas Gerais, eastern Brazil. Both maps are from some previous works of mine.

Compton scattering do occur for low Z elements.
Cross-section for PE is prop to Z^5, for CS it is z^1.CS happens for z^1, then it should happen for for z^5 also.
Binding energy of K shell e has smaller value for low Z elements.
I have heard about stripping, simultaneous equation and least square method for gamma ray spectrum analysis.
I want to understand the concepts involved in these methods as well as how they are applied?
If anyone can provide some references regarding these it will be really helpful.
I just received STAY'SL code "Least Squares Dosimetry Unfolding Code System" from RSICC. I couldn't install it and run the input code. could you help me to tell me how to use it. I'm new with this code.
Thanks
I did some analyis by gamma-spectrometry (following the NF ISO 18589-3) and I had my results.
In view to calculate an index activity of my material, I need Th232 activity. Is that an average of the values obtained for Ac228 and Pb212? Thank you
This question comes from observation that there are no known half-lifes in range from 10−10 seconds to 10−21 seconds, (Except 8Be, which has a half-life of 7×10−18 seconds.)
I was measuring radon with AlphaE (product of Saphymo)
On the screen, the "NOISE" response appeared.
I tried to start another measurement but the "NOISE" was still on it during several days...
I could not find sufficient info in the instrument manual...
Many thanks for your help
Occasionally, HPGe has to be turn on for one month or more continuously, but maybe for one or two day, we don't have any sample for counting. During this period of time is better turn high voltage and DSPEC.jr off or not? why?
I have spectral gamma Data( U,TH,K) and I want to find relation between the variation of each element and climate signification
We are using Gamma Spectrometer to measure the natural radiation of sediment sample. The samples are also contains
large proportion of moisture.
I have run a program for detector efficiency simulation. The output file is in root format. Can anyone help me to extract the result of simulation in another file format? txt format is the best one I think
Thank you.
Hello group, I am trying to run NuShellX on my Windows10 machine and when I try to run a batch file after building the lpe in 'shell', I get a couple of "unable to complete... libgfortran-3.dll is missing from your computer" error messages. Any suggestions on how I can resolve this issue?
Radiation detection, gamma spectroscopy
How will it make a difference if gamma spectroscopy is carried out using powder rather than crystal. I think resolution will be poor but why I am not able to make it out.
According to literature 55Fe decays via electron capture to the 7/2- level of 55Mn (100%). The subsequent gamma decay at 126 keV has an intensity of only 1.3×10-7. However, the vacancy in the atomic shell of 55Fe produces fluorescence gammas with intensities which are several orders of magnitude higher, e.g. Kα1 x ray at 5.898 keV, I(x ray): 16.2. After electron capture we have at the same time an excited 55Mn and a vacancy in the atomic shell of 55Fe. Why the intensities are so different ? Is it due the internal conversion ?
How many years the sources must be changed?
What is the minimum size of an NAI detector (crystal) adequate for a Gamma airborne system? A minimum size to reduce the weight of a detector to realize the count (only count, not spectrometer) to look for only anomalies.
Suppose a gamma emitter deposited its gamma energy on a HPGe/NaI(Tl) detector. Now nuclear electronics shall process the pulse. Preamplifier shall make voltage pulse from current pulse. Amplifier shall amplify it. In MCA, ADC shall convert analogue signal to digital signal and it will be plotted as Energy vs Pulse height (gamma spectrometry). My question is in detector, any gamma energy (> e-h pair production E) shall excite the electron of the valence band and send it to conduction band. Due to reverse bias, the conduction band e shall be collected and used for gamma counting in HPGe detector. Is't the energy information will be lost? If yes then how we get E vs pulse ht plot in MCA? If not please explain. Please include some reference. Thank you in advance.
In gamma ray spectrometer
24Na gives 1368 and 2754 keV. Can we use escape peaks of 2754 keV for calibration purpose?
Can someone comparatively explain the cost effectiveness of the E-PERM with respect to other radon monitors?
I want to have the best system solution for a very light( low weight) aerial survey
High energy astrophysicsts and Nuclear Physicists
Is 21.7 a reliable value for U-238/U-235 ratio? If this value increases or decreases in the cases of some soil samples, does it only mean having depleted uranium mixed with soil or other reasons exist as well? P.S, Gamma spectroscopy technique is used for measurements.
I was thinking about a low-cost gamma spectroscopy system which will be using a CsI(Tl) coupled to a photodiode as a detector and an arduino microcontroller instead of a MCA for the signal processing.
In your opinion, is it possible to emerge a decent spectrum out of the noise with this system?
Thank you in advance for your answers!
I have heard about 150% or higher relative (compared to 3 inch x 3 inch NaI(Tl) for 1332 keV photons) efficiency HPGe.
I want to know the largest volume or dimensions available for HPGe crystal used in detectors.
I also want to know the highest efficiency available for HPGe detector and its crystal dimensions.
Is the end-cap diameter of HPGe related to its diameter, or is there some standard in which smaller dimensions HPGe crystal are placed?
Suppose for Bi-214 609 keV gamma line:
- The number of channels for lower and upper background region (m) = 10
- The number of channels for background under the peak (n) = 25
- The integral = 126533
- The live time = 46600 sec
Suppose for Bi-214 609 keV gamma line:
number of channels for lower and upper background region (m) = 10
number of channels for background under the peak (n) = 25
the integral = 126533
the live time = 46600 sec
I am investigating some nanomaterials under Gamma Ray excitation. Initially I was expecting to see fluorescence from our materials under gamma excitation. But I didn't see anything however I did see with X-Ray though. We are using TE cooled PMT with background counting of 100 count per second. If there are at least more than 100 photons we should be able to pickup. The gamma source is Co-60 (0.5 mCi) with roughly 18940 KBq of activity. I believe that the activity of the order of 18940000 per sec, should be enough to see the fluorescence from the materials having yield even less than 1%. In this regard, I would like to get your suggestion and comments on it.
In my shield they are 0.05 and 0.1 (HpGe 36% and 55%). I find this rate quite high.
Can anyone explain me how does the detector parameters (like capacitance, leakage current etc.) affect the choice of feedback capacitance in the design of a charge sensitive pre-amplifier for radiation detection?
Suppose the energy required to produce a single electron-hole pair in a semiconductor is given by 'ε' Then the number of electron-hole pairs produced by a particle depositing energy E in the material is E/ε. Let us say this quantity 'N'. Now what is the total amount of charge inside the material: is it (a) N*e or is it (b) 2*N*e ? (e= charge on an electron).
I use HPGe detector with digital spectrometer for gamma spectrometry. The resolution of a fix energy changes relatively wide range measurment to measurment (the count rate is permanent).
Sodium iodide (thallium doped) crystal detector is a type of conventional inorganic scintillator detector, which has been in use for a long time to qualitatively identify and quantitatively estimate various gamma-ray lines, especially in the low energy range.
The size of this detector matters in many applications, especially where it is desired to obtain maximum or complete deposition of the gamma-ray energy.
Why is the radium effect measurement by CR39 SSNTDs greater than radium measurement by NaI(TI) gamma spectrometry {the rate (1/10)} in the same water samples?
Out lab has the basics, but we are looking for protocols, background theory, or technical references to using a Co source for calibrations.
I want to know the effect of air-conditioned room on the performance of gamma spectrometer, especially, NaI detector used for low level measurements
I need to correct the sum effect for n-type coaxial detector. Can it be possible using the MCNPX sowtware?
Can anyone say why PA-234 gamma does not show up in gamma spectra of soil sample even though Th-234 and all other daughters of U-238 do ?