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Scientists interested in Gamma spectrometry. I have written an open source Python program for Gamma spectrometry, it launches in your default browser and it is so easy to use you should not need the manual.
The program is compatible with any sound card spectrometer like the Gammaspectacular, as well as serial devices by Atom-Spectra.
Source code here:
Mac app bundle here:
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A new version for Windows was uploaded yesterday. This version has isotope identification.
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Is it possible to compute the peak-to-background ratio for the case of a doublespeak, that is when two peaks are not resolved completely?
So far we have (Figure attached), tying to get the p/B ration for the second peak (peak 1)
1.) Counts under peak 0
2.) Counts under peak 1
3.) Total counts under the combined region
As I understand merely subtracting the 3.) -1.) -2.) will give background counts for both peaks, however only background under peak 1 is required.
Thank You
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Use the background area under peak 1 as shown in the figure. It is possible to perform iterative fitting to refine the background, but unlikely you will reduce the uncertainty in the estimate to an important degree.
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Hello, dear community! ,
I am working on gamma-ray spectrometry data to delineate K-enrichment areas. I have created the maps using Geosoft, but I get errors when I use the K/eTh ratio (a map with few contours). I don't know what I am doing wrong.
Can anyone please help me?
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There could be several reasons why you're encountering difficulties calculating the K/eTh ratio or F-parameter in your gamma-ray spectrometry data for K-enrichment delineation. Here are some possibilities to explore:
Data Issues:
  • Missing or incorrect channels: Ensure your data includes the necessary channels for potassium (K-40), thorium (eTh), and possibly other relevant elements like uranium (U-238).
  • Calibration errors: Verify that your data is properly calibrated for energy and intensity. Inaccurate calibration can lead to distorted peaks and incorrect elemental concentrations.
  • Background subtraction: Check if the background spectrum has been adequately subtracted. Residual background can interfere with peak analysis and affect ratio calculations.
Processing Errors:
  • Formula mistake: Double-check the formula you're using for calculating the K/eTh ratio or F-parameter. Ensure you're using the correct channel numbers and units.
  • Data manipulation errors: Verify that you haven't inadvertently applied any filters or transformations that might affect peak areas or ratios.
  • Software limitations: Check if Geosoft has any specific limitations or requirements for calculating these parameters. Refer to the software's documentation or consult their support team.
Interpretation Issues:
  • Low K concentrations: If the K concentration in your data is low compared to eTh, the K/eTh ratio might have few contours due to insufficient contrast. Consider using alternative parameters like K/U or Th/U ratios that might be more sensitive to K variations.
  • Geological factors: The distribution of K and eTh in your study area might not be spatially correlated, making the K/eTh ratio less informative for delineating K-enrichment zones. Consider incorporating other geological and geochemical information into your analysis.
Additional Tips:
  • Consult the literature: Refer to relevant publications on gamma-ray spectrometry data processing and K-enrichment delineation for specific techniques and best practices.
  • Seek expert advice: Consider consulting with a geophysicist or geologist experienced in gamma-ray spectrometry data analysis for troubleshooting and interpretation.
  • Share more details: If possible, provide more information about your data (e.g., data format, acquisition method, study area), processing steps, and specific error messages you encounter. This will help in providing more targeted guidance.
By systematically investigating these potential causes and seeking additional resources, you should be able to identify the source of your problem and successfully calculate the K/eTh ratio or F-parameter for your K-enrichment delineation project.
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Staff handeled with radiation related job need to be investigated indeed
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To measure radioactivity in the human body it is necessary to have a good radiation shielding around the detector and the subject. The shielding is in this case built of massive steel stabs of naval armour- plate forming an iron room The iron room is ventilated with filtered air.
as a result the detector is sensitive to gamma-radiation with energies above 50 Kev and supplies information about the energy of the gamma photons, which makes it possible to identify the gamma emitting isotope measured by the spectroscopy. A certain hour measurement offers the possibility of detecting of a 100 % gamma emitting isotope distributed in the nail at the gamma energy is above 50 Kev.
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Dear colleagues,
recently there was a question here on RG about a mysterious high energy shoulder of a gamma peak.The real reason for that is unknown up to now.
One of my ideas is EMI interference with cell phone radiation.
It is well known, that cell phone (handy) radiation affects/irritates sensitive electronic equipment.
A HPGe detector is such a sensitive device.
Does anybody of you have performed tests about that issue; are there any experiences?
Any contributions are welcome...
Thanks in advance and best regards
G.M.
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does the shoulder appear in the total energy peak in the HPGe gamma spectrum of certain samples, there are two probabilities, if the problem in the HPGE detector, adjust it if not it is problem due to the high activity of the sample therefore it is necessary to remove the sample at the level of the detector to eliminate the peak sum phonomene
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MARION technology
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Dear community,
I am using a HPGe detector to measure the activity of a neutron-activated foil sample (InAl), which can be used in neutron spectrum unfolding.
A problem showed up is that the gamma spectrum recoreded by HPGe now shows full peaks with a "shoulder" on high energy side, as shown in the attached figure labeled with In-115(n,gamma)In-116m.
Other irradiated samples are meausred using this HPGe, but the aforementioned phenomenon in gamma spectrum doesn't occur, as shown in the attached figure labeled with La-139(n,gamma)La-140.
My collegue had suggested a possible cause that the unstable voltage supply during the measurement. But it has been excluded after the installation of uninterruptible power supply.
What will be the cause of the "shoulder" in the full-energy peak of certain sample? And, how to cope with it?
Sincerely,
Zhao-Ming Pan
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Dear Dr. Gerhard Martens,
Here is the complete spectrum and its .Spe file. The decay gamma of In-116m is specified in red with corresponding annotation (fitted energy).
Also specified on the spectrum are the detector live time, real time and dead time. The Gross/Net count rate are 86.87 / 77.26 cps for the 1292 keV peak.
The lower level discrimination is set 50 which equals to 17.33 keV. However, the HPGe recorded spectrum starts from channel 132 (45.74 keV) when measuring the In-116m foil sample.
The set-up is remained the same when measuring different samples. None of the collimator, shielings and distances are changed.
The detector model is Canberra GC2520 coaxial HPGe.
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Gamma spectrum analysis is regarded as a fast, reliable and non-destructive technology on determining the type and intensity of radionuclides. It is widely used in nuclear physics research, geological exploration, environmental assessment. Under the certain condition (detector, electronic components and measuring environment), the data obtained by different unfolding algorithms have different results. The accuracy of qualitative and quantitative analysis of radionuclides is determined by gamma spectrum unfolding technique https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211379718334223
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Recently we have installed Gamma spectrometry set up at our institution. It has NaI flat type detector of size 3"x3". To analyze soil, sand, rock, and other environmental samples we require suitable plastic beakers. Probably Marinelle beakers are the best ones for the purpose. Whom we can contact in India to purchase these beakers? Are there any other companies that provide containers of the same quality? If not Marinelle, which type of beakers are generally used? Please give me iinformation. Thanks in advance.
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Dear Sir,
I think following person can help you.
Vicky Bhosale
9833659640
Electronic Enterprises (India) Pvt. Ltd. Mulund(E). Mumbai.
Phone: +91-22-25639904 / 25636011
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when we measure the specific activity of any sample using Gamma spectroscopy , we always keep the prepared sample in a locked marnilli beaker for one month or more to let radio nuclides in the sample reach the secular equilibrium , but practically do you think this processes effect on the results? and what is the expected error rate in the measurement if we measure the samples immediately with out equilibrium .
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Good and interested question Nada Farhan Kadhim
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I am making a simulation of energy deposited of some radioactive sources in scintillation detector. I have some results, but I don't have the same distribution energy between experimental spectra and simulated spectra. I do not know why.
For instance, the spectra of Cs-137 is shown. However, it does not have the same resolution.
Someone who can help me how to improve the simulation.
The scintillation detector is of NaI:Tl.
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The most significant difference is the width of the photoelectric peak at 662 keV. This width occurs after gamma-ray energy is transferred to the scintillator crystal. Your simulation probably may not include this part.
The number of scintillation photons generated, when 662 keV is totally absorbed by the NaI:Tl crystal, is statistically distributed. It is also a stochastic process whether each scintillation photon is successfully detected by a photodetector (photomultiplier tube or semiconductor device) or lost.
There are two ways to improve the distribution. One simple way is to assume the energy resolution of the detector (crystal + photodetector) and perform a convolution with your results. You can fine the typical energy resolutions in literature: typically ca. 7% [*].
Another detailed method is to add, if necessary, simulation to track the behavior of the scintillation photons.
The other differences seem to be related to Compton scattering; since the NaI:Tl crystal is sealed in a package, some of the energy may be lost by Compton scattering in the package before it enters the crystal. Then, the gamma-ray energy is not 662 keV but less than 475 keV for the detector. Similarly, Compton scattering from surrounding desks, walls, and other objects may enter the crystal and increase the proportion of that component of the experimental data.
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An interesting situation emerged on analysis of ICP-MS samples which had to be compared with gamma spectroscopy results. For other radionuclides activity concentrations, such as U-238 and Th-232 results, were comparable except those of K-40. The results obtained on ICP-MS were approximately 50x less than those from gamma for all samples. As a research, which method would be tangible to use to obtain results that are in agreement with gamma spec, provided that all analytical instruments are well calibrated with certified standards?
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If you are using a typical Argon-based ICP-MS, even if the operating software permits you to measure isotopes of m/z = 40 (K, Ca and Ar), I think you will struggle to accurately quantify K-40 as it is going to be overwhelmed by the Ar-40 signal from the plasma.
I suspect you will have to use a different technique that doesn't use Argon plasma.
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Which methods do you use to correct or smooth the effects of negative or zero values in gamma-ray spectrometry surveys?
Provided that your values were well collected and processed.
I am asking this because ratio maps, where negative values in both numerator and denominator can give false positive or even misleading peaks if the denominator is zero.
How do you manage to deal with those values? I am reading articles about it from IAEA 1991 (Technical reports series n.323) and Minty 2011 (On the use of radioelement ratios). However, I did not understand the part where you can progressively sum elemental concentrations from adjacent observation points in the vicinity until the accumulated concentration exceeds a threshold value.
Best regards,
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Hello everyone!
With respect to this discussion, and in the case of gamma-spectrometric surveys, I have to add that one of the first things you should observe is your statistics. Yes, negative values ​ exist, but they tend to not be that frequent.. A quick analysis on the database histogram will show you that the proportion of negative values ​​compared to your total database is really low.
At least here in Brazil, regarding to the airborne geophysical data from the Geological Survey of Brazil, these values ​​usually represent a tiny 1% of the total data. The spatial distribution of these "incoherent" data is another factor to be considered. If the data is spread over a large area, it can represent mere noise. There are also drainage sites, dams, large rivers and lakes, where values ​​tend to fluctuate between 0. Another factor to take into account is if only one of the channels has this "incoherent" value for the point or all channels (K, Th, U) have it, because if it is only one channel, the most likely hypothesis is that it is just a noise or "fluctuation" of detected values close to zero ... In these cases you can declare the points as DUMMY and just move on in your data processing flow.
If the negative points are represented in all your channels at the same time and for the same coordinates, and are spatially concentrated in the same region... Well.. in this case you must investigate the cause. However, this will rarely be the case.
If your "inconsistent" values ​​represent somewhere between 5 - 10% of your database, probably something in the QA / QC during the data acquisition occurred, I mean, some technical failure or difficulty. In this case, the data set is under suspicion. It does not mean that the entire database would be useless, but it does mean that your analysis needs to take this factor into account when drawing conclusions or making predictions.
Another factor that can make negative values ​​appear on your maps, even if you are careful to@ declare values ​​as DUMMY in your database, is the interpolation method. Imagine two points close to zero and the interpolator, to "connect" them, does it by means of a polynomial curve of degree 2 instead of a straight line. Somewhere the curve may fluctuate to negative values ​​... and then there may be some remnants on your map. In this case, check the map statistics (histogram) and review the possibility of declaring the inconsistent points as DUMMY.
Best regards,
Frederico Sousa
Researcher in Geosciences - Geophysicist
Geological Survey of Brazil
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We have a shrimp sample from IAEA for proficiency test and as per the requirement of IAEA we want to identify and quantify radioactivity in that sample. We have taken a sample count for 90000 sec.
Suppose we got the gross count for K-40 (1460.822 keV) is 1.03E+04 with an area uncertainty of about 121.69.
Before the measurement of the sample, the gamma background at laboratory site was determined with an identical empty plastic container used in the sample measurement.
The background gross count for 1460.822 keV was found as 8.71E+03 with an area uncertainty of about 111.49. We can easily calculate the net count rate from the mentioned information.
But my question is how to calculate Net count rate uncertainty.
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We can calculate Net count rate uncertainty in gamma spectrometry Technique by using square limit equation, you should calculate the total error ( systematic and theoritical) before calculate Activity of samples
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I want to measure the ambient dose of Am-Be neutron source filtered by a standard slab phantom. I measure the neutron flux moderated by a slab phantom using an activation foil by gamma spectroscopy and I wont to calculate the corresponding dose.
Can I use the conversion factor of the thermal neutron as reported in the ICRP -74 or use the conversion factor of the Cf-225 filtered by D2O.
Documented answer is appreciated.
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as cited in ISO 8529-1, you use the conversion factor 391 pSv.cm² for Am-Be neutron source
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Suppose we have 10 L of sea water sample and we want to determine the activity of gamma emitting radionuclides in it. Is it required to concentrate this sample prior to gamma spectrometry analysis or we can use a portion (e.g. .5 or 1 L) of the sample directly?
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Hello,
For natural radionuclides you can have a look to :
van der Loeff, M. R., & Moore, W. S. (1999). The analysis of natural radionuclides in seawater. In Methods of Seawater Analysis (pp. 365-397). Verlag Chemie Weinheim.
availble online at:
Best regards.
Matthieu
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During the interference Correction of the 226Ra 186.2 keV line by the 235U 185.7 keV some authors (F. De Corte et al, 2005) use the formula as given in attachment:
Where, Ig, is the gamma-ray intensities,
εp, is the peak detection efficiencies,
COI, is the correction factors for true coincidence summing
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Coincidence summing is called for when your detector is not able to tell two separate gamma-emissions (in quick succession) apart from each other, thus revealing one (apparent) larger energy that is the sum of the two above-mentioned emissions. This phenomenon can be either 'true' (depending on decay scheme, since the source emits a cascade of gamma rays) or 'random' (when two different nuclei emit radiations that are closer in time than detector response time).
Coincidence summing is usually minimized by the implementation of: 1) fast-response detection; 2) large separation between source and detector (if compatible with activity level); 3) sequences of single sources rather than multi-emitters; 4) Compton-suppression systems (anti-coincidence detector ensembles surrounding main detector).
Coincidence summing can be mathematically accounted for, but slightly-more-than-trivial geometries usually require Monte Carlo approaches.
Take a look here:
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Dear colleagues, I have a project about the plants, in my project I measure the specific activity of the detected radionuclides by gamma spectroscopy, and I need to compare the calculated results with the recommend limits of the specific activates of U-238 , Th-232 ,and K-40 radionuclides of the plants not of the soil or the building materials .
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Dear M.M.Mahfus
Thank you very much for interest information.
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Methods for the determination of radium isotopes in environmental solids by gamma spectrometry can be obtained by two means, the direct measurement of the principal photopeaks (186 keV in the case of 226Ra), and indirect measurement using the gamma radiation emitting progeny. The advantage of using the direct measurement method, particularly for 226Ra, is that the sample can be prepared and measured immediately without the need for progeny ingrowth. The disadvantages of this method relate primarily in that the emission probability of this gamma photopeak is quite weak (3.28%), and furthermore by the presence of the interfering primary gamma emission of 235U at 185.7 keV that has a higher photon emission probability of 57.24%. While 235U generally presents at a much lower activity concentration than 226Ra in environmental samples, it has an effective photon emission of ~ 2.6% at this energy (assuming a natural U isotopic ratio). The energy resolution of currently available HPGe spectrometers is generally considered insufficient to separate the two peaks. If no chemical separation is carried out initially, quantification of 226Ra via the 186 keV gamma line must be conducted by attempting to quantify the contribution of the 235U isotope to the doublet peak.
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There is an empirical equation can be used for the required correction based on the natural abundance of Uranium and the activity concentration of U-238. Practically, more details is represented in the following article:
Hopefully, it will be helpful for you.
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Suppose in a background gamma spectrometry, I want calculate detection limit for 662 keV. The net peak area is zero. Compton continuum background is x counts. LD = 2.71 +3.29 (B)^0.5.
Whether B = x here?
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Pl see the attached image. I want to calculate the detection limit using the following formula LD = 2.71 +3.29 (BACKGROUND COUNTS)^0.5
In 200 keV region there is a visible peak (assume >LC). In 300 keV region there is no visible peak (assume <LC).
What value for 'BACKGROUND COUNTS' should I use in both cases? In 200 keV energy, should I use gross counts as 'BACKGROUND COUNTS' i.e. a+b and what about in the case of 300 keV case? Pl reply.
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The attached image is of a Cs-137 spectrum with NaI.
Is this an example for any spectrum?
Are you seeking an estimate of MDA for reporting purposes, to state that nothing was found in the region above the detection limit?
A detection limit should be for a given radionuclide for a given analysis matrix. The actual background is determined from the matrix and its sources of noise in the peak region.
A rough background for a non-specific photo peak would be the total counts in the region of interest.
The equation you are using for the MDA is inadequate at few total counts.
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The analysis was done in 50% efficient HPGe 
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dose this rule apply to all radionuclides.
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I want to create some specifically designed spectra for Canberra's Genie 2000 software (CAM files). For this purpose, I need to manipulate the single channel counts of the files. Is there a Genie 2000 tool (in the GENIE2K\EXEFILES folder) that offers me the functionality
- a) to read channel counts of CAM files,
- b) to set the channel counts?
I know that Genie 2000 can import and convert from a variety of different spectrum formats. However, as the input data are in the CAM format, I would be happy if I could directly work on the CAM files.
Thank you for your help!
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Thank you for that answer. In principle, That is what I am doing now. However, with this method only, I lose all CAM parameters. Therefore I use the "strip" method on the new CAM file afterwards and calculate original spectrum - original spectrum + new spectrum. By doing so, I transfer all CAM parameters to the new spectrum.
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Dear colleagues, I have a project about the plants, in my project I measure the specific activity of the detected radionuclides by gamma spectroscopy, and I need to compare the calculated results with the recommend limits of the specific activates of U-238 , Th-232 ,and K-40 radionuclides of the plants not of the soil or the building materials .
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thank you very much Dr. Mushtaq
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i have (RGU-1 , RGTh-1 , RGK-1 )certified reference materials in my gamma spectroscopy lab and want to analyse water and vegetable samples and did not have water or vegetable standerds .
using HPGe detector.
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what is the fastest method to measure 100 ppm of the heavy elements in the solid food products, plastic,and water? XRF can, but what is the best company and model? neutron activation can be used but you need a good infrastructure for that and a team. Gamma spectroscopy and HPLC-MS are good. what do you have more? technically.
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Dear Dr. Said,
I think that your question implies that your are planning to establish elemental analysis laboratory of trace heavy elements.
As mentioned by answers, it is important to know what elements you are looking for and what materials you are intending to analyze.
I recommend XRF technique. It is multi-elemental (typically from sodium (Na) to uranium (U)), non-destructive and direct elemental analysis technique. Wide range of materials can be analyzed - in solids, liquids, powders and thin films - at detection limits starting from 100% down to less than parts-per-million (ppm) levels.
Commercial XRF spectrometers have small and simple design. Its operation costs less than other known elemental analysis techniques like ICP-MS and AAS. These systems support patch analysis, i.e. perform both data acquisition and analysis for several samples automatically and quickly. Normally, no sample preparation procedures are needed and samples can be analyzed as received.
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Fresh olive fruits were collected and grinded to paste (oily kind of slurry). The intetion is to analyse for U-238, Th-232 and K-40 using gamma spectroscopy.
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I am working in a big project to map oil and gas NORM worldwide.
I need a big amount of values of the same oil field or platform
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Greetings Gilberto,
The following article has results of findings in the oil and gas industry:
The NORM study in the oil industry is starting in Venezuela. We have worked on the chemistry and radiochemistry of oil production waters and scales, emphasizing the exhaustive study of their chemical properties. Our ideal is to build a NORM map in the oil industry, in which the geological, chemical and radiological characteristics are present; This topic is extensive and interesting.
In addition, a study that contains analytical interest of the waters, is of great help to visualize the behaviors of the radiometric analysis. Unfortunately, analytical quality analysis in oil production waters is not a simple job. And radioactivity analysis in water is costly from the operational point of view due to the volume of water to carry out radiochemistry.
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Ender Araujo
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I need to know the following:
1- Reference date used for this sample type is: start of the sampling date? or End of sampling date?
2- For radionuclides Pb-212, Bi-212 in general we use the half time of Th-232 for decay correction. But in this case should I use the half time of Pb-212, Rn-220 or Th-232?
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you could use gamma spectrumitry of analysis areosol fillter but you will needed standard source for calbration your detector used in analysis gamma spectrumetry .
there are alot of equepments used to analyses alpha beta radio nuclide for areosel and give you good quality of analysis for air monatering like iCAM Alpha/Beta Air Monitor fom canbirra
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for already determined distribution coefficients in different systems aqueous solution/resin, via gamma spectroscopy, Is there a way to determine a stability constant in order to strengthen the description and discussion of the data?
The only available data is the gamma measurements.
Redoing the experiment via the pH determination will be an entirely different endeavor.
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Actually the ligand coated on the resin is 40% (w/w) so I have it. But I do not know the formula by which I can calculate the constant.
All of the samples I used were measured with radiotracers so their quantity is low enough and can be calculated in moles easily.
On the other hand I can not measure pH first because the samples are long gone and new ones will take to much resources.
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I have seen that minimum curvature gridding of .gdb is more suited when you have random distribution of data while Bi-directional gridding (BIGRID) is more convenient when the flight lines are in a parallel direction.
However, I was told that for the gamma-ray spectrometry data (described below) I should use minimum curvature because of the time sampling and BIGRID for the magnetic data. It is said that minimum curvature is more common for gamma-ray .gdb gridding.
I would like to know which type of these two interpolation techniques I should use (for both gamma-ray and magnetic data).
My grids in Oasis Montaj did not show a significant difference when I interpolated the data using both methods. Nevertheless, I wish I knew the answer for this issue.
I would appreciate if you could suggest me any articles that discuss this topic.
The specifications of the airborne survey are:
Spacing between flight lines: 500 m
Flight height: 100 m
Direction of flight lines: N-S
Time sampling: 0,1 s magnetometer
Time sampling: 1,0 s spectrometer
Direction of control lines: E-W
Spacing between control lines: 10 km
Note: The interpolation is for flight lines only (I am not using tie lines).
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Bi-Directional is a technique for roughly parallel lines. It is 1D method, it cannot use tie lines. It creates grid lines (columns, rows) independent of each other, which may lead to discrepancies and visible artifacts, especially with nonlinear (Akima) interpolation. Its fitting in data nodes is not obvious.
Minimum curvature gridding method creates a minimum curvature surface
to the random data points. It is 2D method, it uses all the input data. This surface is the smoothest surface that fits the given data values. The method is linear. Its fitting in data nodes can be regulated.
I would use minimum curvature method in any regular situation.
You can find much more information (for much more time) searching
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I am currently working with airborne gamma-ray surveys of Brazilian Amazon region.
With the same array of surveying, the same kind of detector, aicraft, etc... the data from Potassium channel of the Amazon region has much more noise than the others surveys from central Brazil, or southern Brazil.
What comes to my mind is something related to the weathering process. But, even in fresh rock areas from the Amazonia, the signal-to-noise rate is very poor, and I don't really think that's the cause.
Anyone has a guess?
I'm sending two maps for comparison purposes. The first is from Rondonia state, northern Brazil, and the second is from Minas Gerais, eastern Brazil. Both maps are from some previous works of mine.
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Normally, potassium channel data become noisy when either thorium or uranium or both concentrations in ground are high. This high concentrations make enough contribution to K channel through Compton scattering. Now uranium measurement is done through Bi-214 emissions which is large when radon in the area is high. So you need to look into radon concentration also.
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Compton scattering do occur for low Z elements.
Cross-section for PE is prop to Z^5, for CS it is z^1.CS happens for z^1, then it should happen for for z^5 also.
Binding energy of K shell e has smaller value for low Z elements.
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In the photoelectric effect, the photon transfers all the energy to the atomic electron. The atomic electron must be tightly bound so that the photon can transfer all the energy to the atomic electron (Head-to-head collision); otherwise Compton scattering occurs.  Hence the photoelectric effect occurs with tightly bound electrons especially K-shell. The Binding energy of the K-shell electrons, which are most tightly bound, decreases for low Z elements. So the photoelectric effect is reduced for low Z media.
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I have heard about stripping, simultaneous equation and least square method for gamma ray spectrum analysis.
I want to understand the concepts involved in these methods as well as how they are applied?
If anyone can provide some references regarding these it will be really helpful.
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I glanced through the reference cited by Joseph L Alvarez. Though old, it shines as one the best extensive and educative article covering not only physics of gamma ray interactions, with reference to NaI(Tl) crystal but also methods of spectrometry with a huge compilation of decay schemes of practically all the radionuclides and analysis of their gamma ray spectrum, taken with this crystal of various sizes connected through amplifier to a multichannel analyser spectrometer. I am seeing this for the first time and it is deeply impressive. But for obtaining excellent energy resolution particularly at low energies, the latest ones using HPGe detectors are preferred. The spiky peaks at all energies obtained with this system are superior to the broadened peaks for the NaI(Tl) system. The bulky liquid nitrogen cylinders necessitated for this system to reduce noise have now been replaced by portable coolers for short term use and battery-operated spectrometers with built-in coolers are now commercially available. Papers comparing the resolution of these two systems may be accessed from nuclear instrumentation journals. The use of HPGe system for whole body counting enables measurement of low activities of gamma emitters in the body with excellent resolution. Of course, they are more expensive.
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I just received STAY'SL code "Least Squares Dosimetry Unfolding Code System" from RSICC. I couldn't install it and run the input code. could you help me to tell me how to use it. I'm new with this code.
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The package NMF-90 (including STAYNL) can be downloaded from the URL given at the end of my yesterday message. The "diskettes" mentioned in the section Installation are obsolete, therefore you shall use pendrives instead of those. 
Since the time of development, of NMF-90 the MS-DOS operating system became not available. Nevertheless,  there is a program CMD.EXE in the directory C:\WINDOWS\system32 (Windows XP and Windows7) running of which the environment will be similar to the MS-DOS environment. I can run the programs of NMF-90 starting CMD.EXEf irst.
The code SANDBP is for restricted distribution in Hungary, I cannot supply it.
I'm waiting for your questions.
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I did some analyis by gamma-spectrometry (following the NF ISO 18589-3)  and I had my results.
In view to calculate an index activity of my material, I need Th232 activity. Is that an average of the values obtained for Ac228 and Pb212? Thank you
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Follow the assumption that Ra-228 is in equilibrium with Th-232 and Th-228 is in equilibrium with Ra-228. A well-sealed sample will have Ac-228 in equilibrium with Pb-212. The average of Ac-228 and Pb-212 is a good estimate of Th-232 when Ac-228 concentration is nearly equal to Pb-212 concentration (within measurement error).
The solubility of Ra and Th are substantially different. Many situations exist that have Th-228 not in equilibrium with Th-232. The measured concentration of Ac-228 will be different from the measured concentration of Pb-212 in a well-sealed sample. The average of the Ac-228 and Pb-212 concentrations is not a good estimate of Th-232. Use Ac-228 as the estimate for Th-232. 
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This question comes from observation that there are no known half-lifes in range from 10−10 seconds to 10−21 seconds, (Except 8Be, which has a half-life of 7×10−18 seconds.)
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In principle, there is no sense in talking about a "nucleus" as such, if the system has not enough time to equilibrate its internal temperature. 
The very short "half lives" in the order of 10e-21 in the chart of nuclides do not correspond to measured lifetimes of certain nucleon ensembles but are calculated from line widths of resonances (lifetime/linewidth correlation as a result of the uncertainty principle).
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I was measuring radon with AlphaE (product of Saphymo)
On the screen, the "NOISE" response appeared.
I tried to start another measurement but the "NOISE" was still on it during several days...
I could not find sufficient info in the instrument manual...
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I fear Paula and coworkers mismatched the instrument's type, AlphaE is battery powered an with at least under that profile it seems to be very, robust.
As to "NOISE", I never saw that message, having used the instrument in several environments with high acustic noise, high humidity and so on.
A first question is: are you sure your instrument is measurring only radon or could be present other dispersed isotopes in air?
Another source of noise in the detector could be mechanical vibration, which could be or even not, induced by acustic noise since the instrument is very light.
The issue is enteresting, if I have news I'll write.
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Occasionally, HPGe has to be turn on for one month or more continuously, but maybe for one or two day, we don't have any sample for counting. During this period of time is better turn high voltage and DSPEC.jr off or not? why?
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It is highly recommended that all day the detector is on high voltage. This makes the crystal is not degraded (It is not proven, is completely empirical my sentence). We have detectors of 25 years with continuous high voltage and they never problems.
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I have  spectral gamma Data( U,TH,K) and I want to find relation between the variation of each element and climate signification
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It is unlikely that you will be able to link (U,Th,K) to the climate. Why do you think you could? If you have been collecting (U,Th,K) data with respect to climate, you must have had an intent. Tell us something about your plan and data, then, maybe, we could make some suggestions. Precipitation would be the single possible connection.
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We are using Gamma Spectrometer to measure the natural radiation of sediment sample. The samples are also contains
large proportion of moisture.
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I have run a program for detector efficiency simulation. The output file is in root format. Can anyone help me to extract the result of simulation in another file format? txt format is the best one I think
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Dear Guembou,
You must select CSV output in your analysis manager. The code specific to the output format must be included in your analysis manager declaration. Next, code extracted from B4 example (B4Analysis.hh) is shown where the selection of the output format takes place uncommenting the line corresponding to csv format.
#ifndef B4Analysis_h
#define B4Analysis_h 1
//#include "g4root.hh"
//#include "g4xml.hh"
#include "g4csv.hh"
#endif
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Hello group, I am trying to run NuShellX on my Windows10 machine and when I try to run a batch file after building the lpe in 'shell', I get a couple of "unable to complete... libgfortran-3.dll is missing from your computer" error messages. Any suggestions on how I can resolve this issue?
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In my case it is not specified , don't know why...
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Radiation detection, gamma spectroscopy
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Just let you know that Ac-227 calibrated solution is available.
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How will it make a difference if gamma spectroscopy is  carried out using powder rather than crystal. I think resolution will be poor but why I am not able to make it out.
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The answers by Hanno, Erik, Raymond, and Phillip are correct. The multiple surfaces of a powder cause multiple refections of the emitted light at the multiple surfaces. Note that a black powder can appear to be white, that is why a scratch on a black surface is particularly visible. Many single crystal detectors use a powder as the reflection medium. 
Bicron made shock resistant NaI detectors of various shapes by forming the detectors using granules of NaI. The gaps between the granules were filled with a plastic having the same index of refraction as NaI. The resolution and efficiency was very close to single-crystal NaI.
A scintillator powder must have a filler with matching index of refraction if used as more than a thin layer. 
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According to literature 55Fe decays via electron capture to the 7/2- level of 55Mn (100%). The subsequent gamma decay at 126 keV has an intensity of only 1.3×10-7. However, the vacancy in the atomic shell of 55Fe produces fluorescence gammas with intensities which are several orders of magnitude higher, e.g. Kα1 x ray  at 5.898 keV, I(x ray): 16.2. After electron capture we have at the same time an excited 55Mn and a vacancy in the atomic shell of 55Fe. Why the intensities are so different ? Is it due the internal conversion ?
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According to the decay scheme of NNDC the level 7/2- level at 126-keV is populated only 1.3e-7% of the time and not 100% as you indicate.
Almost 100% of the 55Fe decays directly populate the ground state of 55Mn. So, one would not expect to see many 126-keV transitions.
As an aside the total internal conversion coefficient for a pure M1 of 126 keV in Mn is 0.01652 (see http://bricc.anu.edu.au/index.php) so it does not affect the gamma-ray intensity by much. The lack of 126-keV transitions is simply because the level is not
populated.
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How many years the sources must be changed?
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1 Gy/min to 2 Gy/min is normally used dose rates, presently very high dose rates are also used in pulsed mode.  
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What is the minimum size of an NAI detector (crystal) adequate for a Gamma airborne system? A minimum size to reduce the weight of a detector to realize the count (only count, not spectrometer) to look for only anomalies.
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Difficult to specify this without knowing other parameters. First, if you only need cps and not spectroscopy, then a better option would be to use a plastic scintillators, as these are much more sensitive and significantly faster than NaI.
Then, in order to know the volume of the detector you need to specify:
- the height from which you measure
- the ground speed
- the required MDA
To give you an image, with a 3" x 3" NaI detector you expect about 3 kcps per microSv/h. A 100 mCi Cs-137 source will give you roughly 280 microSv/h at 1 m distance, which will go down to about 20 nSv/h at 100 m distance (if you take into account also the air dispersion and absorbtion). This means that you basically cannot spot this source from 100 m, with the 3 inch detector, if you just fly by, you will need a much bigger and sensitive detector. Also, you cannot simply use counts, you need somehow a system that will do some background substraction in a dynamic way, otherwise you will get a lot of false positives and negatives.
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Suppose a gamma emitter deposited its gamma energy on a HPGe/NaI(Tl) detector. Now nuclear electronics shall process the pulse. Preamplifier shall make voltage pulse from current pulse. Amplifier shall amplify it. In MCA, ADC shall convert analogue signal to digital signal and  it will be plotted as Energy vs Pulse height (gamma spectrometry). My question is in detector, any gamma energy (> e-h pair production E) shall excite the electron of the valence band and send it to conduction band. Due to reverse bias, the conduction band e shall be collected and used for gamma counting in HPGe detector. Is't the energy information will be lost? If yes then how we get E vs pulse ht plot in MCA? If not please explain. Please include some reference. Thank you in advance.
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The photon interaction is the transfer of energy to a bound electron, the electron is freed and moves rapidly through the crystal. The electron loses energy through multiple interactions. This total energy is collected as a single pulse that is proportional to the energy deposited. The information is not lost because the transfer to the conduction band is not one transfer, but many. 
The same is true for an NaI crystal except it is the total light produced by the electron passing through the crystal.
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In gamma ray spectrometer
24Na gives 1368 and 2754 keV. Can we use escape peaks of 2754 keV for calibration purpose? 
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Yes, you can use single (SEP) and double escape peaks (DEP) for energy as well as for efficiency calibration.
Using SEP and DEP in energy calibration is easy, you basically get two more peaks per transition with known positions. Also useful to quickly check your energy calibration at higher energies (>4 MeV), as you will see a "triplet" of peaks that should have a distance of 511keV.
However, at an γ-ray energy of ~2.7 MeV the SEP and DEP efficiency is very small. If you want to determine this efficiency, i would recommend using a source with higher (and more) energies, e.g. 56Co, as the shape is very different (see attachment). This results in three "independent" detector efficiencies at high energies.
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Can someone comparatively explain the cost effectiveness of the E-PERM with respect to other radon monitors?
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The actual cost of a passive radon measurement campaign depends on many factors but basically on your relation with the dealers so I have no suggestion about this;
However, E-perm system is available also in a version usable for 3-7 days instead of a minimum of 30 days of trace detectors such as CR-39 (e.g. Radosys Ltd).
The long term version of E-perm  claims to be usable at higher doses (integration time*concentration ) than trace detectors but I have no direct proof about this.
The e-perm system is theoretically subject to discharge caused by strong electric fields and other environmental factors. Moreover once you read an e-perm the dose value is lost while a trace detector can be stored (in principle) indefinitely for future recording.
Another non negligible issue is that trace detectors are lighter and smaller than e-perm which is of some relevance if you have to deploy  a large number of detectors in some environments.
I started annual radon monitoring in an important road tunnel in year 2000  with e-perm and swithched to trace detectors in 2003
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I want to have the best system solution for a very light( low weight) aerial survey
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It also depends a certain amount on the particular drone aircraft you intend to use.
Some of the very small UAVs currently being used, in Fukushima for example, can only lift 1-2kg at best. Whatever you put on such aircraft is going to be limited to dose rate only.
There is at least one aircraft system in use with a 3-5kg payload, which is enough for a small (2x2" or 3x3") NaI(Tl) or Cs(I) detector. If you are investigating relatively simple mixtures of radionuclides (eg: naturals and 134Cs, 137Cs, or 60Co) these detectors will give adequate capability of nuclide specific mapping. If you need to know what's there without any prior information then you'll need the spectral resolution of Ge or CZT - but you then have very little sensitivity. If you have the money, a CeBr or LaBr detector should be a reasonable compromise between sensitivity and spectral resolution.
We recently flew a mid sized NaI(Tl) system that would be available for the larger drones (with 20-30kg payloads), and this has given good results even at 500m over parts of the Fukushima deposition. 
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High energy astrophysicsts  and Nuclear Physicists
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Rather than answering your question in frequency, it would be more realistic to answer in energy, simply the frequency is so high that gamma ray behave more like a particle (photon) than a wave. The CGRO and other satellite experiment can detect gamma ray only up to several 100s GeV or < 1TeV = 1.E12 eV. Higher than that, the flux is so low that satellite instruments loss detection power or their discrimination power to separate gamma from much higher flux of cosmic rays. The Ground gamma ray telescope can detect gamma photons interaction with atmosphere via indirect measurement. The highest energy of gamma ray  of those experiments can reach approximately 1.E14 eV, in terms of frequency ~ 2.4E28 Hertz.
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Is 21.7 a reliable value for U-238/U-235 ratio? If this value increases or decreases in the cases of some soil samples, does it only mean having depleted uranium mixed with soil or other reasons exist as well? P.S, Gamma spectroscopy technique is used for measurements.
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You stated that the rock you tested has the expected U238/U235. Examine the rock spectra for other helpful energies. You can develop your own calibration standard using the rock.
How does the U238 concentration compare for soil and rock?
How did you prepare the soil samples? Grind and well mix? Did you seal and store for 30 days to determine Ra226?
Do you have the resolution to numerically resolve Ra226 and U235 peaks?
Do you have soil at several depths in the same location?
DU contamination is possible from other than military usage. DU is used for radiation shielding and aircraft counter weights. 
See attached file.
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I was thinking about a low-cost gamma spectroscopy system which will be using a CsI(Tl) coupled to a photodiode as a detector and an arduino microcontroller instead of a MCA for the signal processing.
In your opinion, is it possible to emerge a decent spectrum out of the noise with this system?
Thank you in advance for your answers!
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Well, yes, but you will essentially be building your own MCA. You'll need to amplify and Gaussian-shape the pulses from your photodiode, then use a peak detect & hold circuit followed by an ADC triggered by the peak detector. Your Arduino can then bin the pulse heights into a histogram. If you have high activity source you will need to do something about pulse pileup (overlapping shaped pulses looking like one big pulse, which will distort your spectrum). From memory Atmel microcontrollers usually have internal 8 or 10 bit ADCs built in, so you won't get an incredibly high resolution, but should be enough for basic spectroscopy with a scintillator.
The spectroscopic amplifier is where you need to be really careful to minimise noise in your design. Your shaping time needs to be carefully chosen to match the detector's capacitance (there are lots of papers which talk about this, including application notes from various detector and instrumentation vendors) in order to minimise noise. Spieler's lecture covers this pretty well (look in particular around page 40):
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I have heard about 150% or higher relative (compared to 3 inch x 3 inch NaI(Tl) for 1332 keV photons) efficiency HPGe.
I want to know the largest volume or dimensions available for HPGe crystal used in detectors.
I also want to know the highest efficiency available for HPGe detector and its crystal dimensions.
Is the end-cap diameter of HPGe related to its diameter, or is there some standard in which smaller dimensions HPGe crystal are placed?
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HPGe detector efficiency (number in %) is usually compared the efficiency of 3 inch NaI(Tl) crystal @ Co-60 photopeak (1332.5 keV). So sometimes this value may be higher than 100%. 
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Suppose for Bi-214 609 keV gamma line:
  • The number of channels for lower and upper background region (m) = 10
  • The number of channels for background under the peak (n) = 25
  • The integral = 126533
  • The live time = 46600 sec
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On internet you will find the book "Genie2K Customization tools manual". All the answers you need are described in here.
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Suppose for Bi-214  609 keV gamma line:
number of channels for lower and upper background region (m) = 10
number of channels for background under the peak (n) = 25
the integral = 126533
the live time = 46600 sec
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The simples approach is:
1. Calculate average counts number per single channel for both, lower and upper background areas.
2. Make average of the two just calculated numbers - that's the average background (per channel) for all the peak region.
3. Multiply number from point 2 by number of channels in the peak - that's background of your peak. Subtract this number from total counts for the peak to get the peak net counts.
4. peak uncertainty = sqrt(peak net)
5. background uncertainty = sqrt(bacground counts - see point 3)
6. detection limit is usually defined: If measured peak (net) is bigger than 3*standard uncertainty of bacground it can be assummed as detected peak.
This gives that peak net should be greater than 3*sqrt(bacground) to be accounted as real peak and not backround fluctuation.
However to be able to quantify the analyte the peak should be greater than 3*detection limit calculated as above.
Some more details e.g here:
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I am investigating some nanomaterials under Gamma Ray excitation. Initially I was expecting to see fluorescence from our materials under gamma excitation. But I didn't see anything however I did see with X-Ray though. We are using TE cooled PMT with background counting of 100 count per second. If there are at least more than 100 photons we should be able to pickup. The gamma source is Co-60 (0.5 mCi) with roughly 18940 KBq of activity. I believe that the activity of the order of 18940000 per sec, should be enough to see the fluorescence from the materials having yield even less than 1%. In this regard, I would like to get your suggestion and comments on it.
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Hi, I suggest you to read the work of my colleagues: Lecavalier et al. Chem. Commun., 2013, 49, 11629-11631. DOI: 10.1039/C3CC46209A 
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In my shield they are 0.05 and 0.1 (HpGe 36% and 55%). I find this rate quite high.
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For our J-type HPGe detector with 15% relative effeciency 40K background net count rate is about 0.002 cps (the crystal is in the shade of the shield!); in same place,  45% detector of vertical cryostat model (shield wit the hole in the bottom!) the background is 0.03 cps...
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Can anyone explain me how does the detector parameters (like capacitance, leakage current etc.) affect the choice of feedback capacitance in the design of a charge sensitive pre-amplifier for radiation detection?
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Suppose the energy required to produce a single electron-hole pair in a semiconductor is given by 'ε' Then the number of electron-hole pairs produced by a particle depositing energy E in the material is E/ε. Let us say this quantity 'N'. Now what is the total amount of charge inside the material: is it (a) N*e or is it (b) 2*N*e ? (e= charge on an electron).
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Actually it is 2*N*e. Of course the signal you see depends on which charge you collect. If you only collect electrons you will see N*e, even though 2*N*e was produced.
An interesting example of this is the following.
While characterizing Silicon Photomultipliers (SiPM) I measured the photon detection efficiency (PDE). The canonical method, used by everyone till that moment, was to illuminate the photosensor with a monochromatic light source, inside an integrating sphere where a calibrated photodiode is installed. By measuring the photocurrent (after subtracting the dark noise current) and normalizing to the calibrated diode one gets the PDE. This is wrong, for two reasons.
1) With this procedure one includes also the cross-talk in the SiPM.
2) The overall photocurrent is due to electrons AND holes.
I employed a new method, i.e. by counting the single photons with the SiPM and, on top of a better control of the cross-talk, I got the expected result for the PDE (1/2 of what measured with the photocurrent).
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I use HPGe detector with digital spectrometer for gamma spectrometry. The resolution of a fix energy changes relatively wide range measurment to measurment (the count rate is permanent).
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The problem is electronic. The first places to look are the cables and connectors. Next is the preamp. Do you have any diagnostic equipment? A pulser and oscilloscope would be useful.
Humidity is a clear indication of an electrostatic problem. Check for proper grounds.
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Sodium iodide (thallium doped) crystal detector is a type of conventional inorganic scintillator detector, which has been in use for a long time to qualitatively identify and quantitatively estimate various gamma-ray lines, especially in the low energy range.
The size of this detector matters in many applications, especially where it is desired to obtain maximum or complete deposition of the gamma-ray energy.
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The maximum size for commercial use is 7x7 inches...
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Why is the radium effect measurement by CR39 SSNTDs greater than radium measurement by NaI(TI) gamma spectrometry {the rate (1/10)} in the same water samples?
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Assuming that the proper energy & geometry calibrations were performed for both methods & an adequate sample sizes & count times were used, did you allow for proper ingrowth prior to counting via gamma spec? I suggest waiting for at least 3 weeks after sealing the Marinelli beaker before gamma counting so that the Pb/Bi-214 daughters are in equilibrium with the Ra-226.
If you waited for ingrowth, then I would review all the calibrations-
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Spectrometry.
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It is easier to correct for attenuation if the moisture is removed.
Radionuclide concentration is usually for dry weight of soil/
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Out lab has the basics, but we are looking for protocols, background theory, or technical references to using a Co source for calibrations.
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The best place to start in terms of background theory and technical references would be "Radiation Detection and Measurement" by Glenn Knoll.
The 1332keV 60Co gamma ray is conventionally used to give relative efficiency values for detectors, Ge detectors in particular, with the efficiency given relative to a 3x3" NaI(Tl) detector with the source at 25cm. Of course, that only gives efficiency for a single energy and geometry. Which will not be particularly useful unless you are going to be measuring the activity of point-like 60Co sources.
To produce an energy efficiency curve for a detector a wider range of emission energies is needed, which will require sources other than 60Co. Your calibration will also need to be correct for the measurement geometry - so, if you are measuring samples placed in close proximity to your detector you will need calibration materials which emit energies similar to (preferably the same as) those you will be measuring, in a matrix with similar attenuation coefficients to your samples, and with the activity uniformly dispersed throughout a container identical to those used for your samples. If you are using the detector for remote measurements then measurements could be made by moving the source to create a pseudo-distributed source that would account for air attenuation and detector geometric effects.
The options for how you would use a source to calibrate a detector are as diverse as the measurements you are going to be making with that detector. To narrow things down some indication of what you are going to use the detector for would be needed.
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I want to know the effect of air-conditioned room on the performance of gamma spectrometer, especially, NaI detector used for low level measurements
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I agree with the Radu's answer , furthermore we should consider the effect of the constant temperature not only on the NaI detector but also on the nuclear electronics which connected with the detector, such as the preamp. amplifier ADC or multichannel analyzer , that they all contribute to the stability of the spectra and reduce the shift in peak positions, specially with long time measurments
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I need to correct the sum effect for n-type coaxial detector. Can it be possible using the MCNPX sowtware?
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Is necessary to write a code to simulate the decay scheme of multiple emitters. In the literature we can find some examples
(Laborie et al. 2000; Dias et al. 2002; Johnston et al. 2006)
Dias, M.S., Takeda, M.N. & Koskinas, M.F., 2002. Applied Radiation and Isotopes, 56(1-2), pp.105–109.
Johnston, P.N., Hult, M. & Gasparro, J., 2006. Applied radiation and isotopes, 64(10-11), pp.1323–1328.
Laborie, J.M. et al., 2000. Applied Radiation and Isotopes, 53(1-2), pp.57–62.
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Can anyone say why PA-234 gamma does not show up in gamma spectra of soil sample even though Th-234 and all other daughters of U-238 do ?
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According to my experience, the Pa-234m is obtained without difficulty in a gamma spectrum of soil sample through the 1001 keV emission.