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Would anyone have any recommendations on what the best treatment would be for samples that I am hoping to analyse for pheromones? Is freezing enough? Any recommendations welcome.
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I advise you to consult this technical document
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I’m going to start study of clinical blood coagulation parameters of fishes using semi automated hemostasis analyser. I suppose that these factors could be very informative for fish physiology, and its associations with its immunity. There is not really much data (literature) about fish blood hemostasis I were found. Does anybody have an experience of work with fish hemostasis? Or would to share a link of any information?
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Dear kindly search for the areas of research you what to cover.
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I am VERY new to cell culture and am having some trouble keeping cells isolated from fathead minnow spleens alive for more than 24 hours or so. I'm attempting to replicate a lymphocyte proliferation (MTT) assay conducted in similar species and need these cells to stay healthy for at least 72 hours. I dissect the spleen from the fish and place into a "fish physiological saline" solution recommended by the authors, gently homogenize with a sterile plastic pestle, centrifuge, wash once and resuspend in my chosen media. I am culturing the cells in 96 well tissue culture plates at 30C in L-15 media supplemented with 5% FBS, 1% penicillin/streptomycin, 0.5% glutamine and 15mM HEPES. The cells are not in an incubator that controls CO2 levels, but from my understanding I should be OK there given that I am using L15. Besides the initial dissection, I am working in a laminar flow hood using aseptic techniques to avoid contamination. Some things I've considered so far are as follows...
- Media pH - seems OK, pH = 7.4
- Humidity of incubator - placed water tray in bottom to mitigate evaporation
- Cell concentration (I have tried 10^6 - 10^3 per well)
- Cell clumping - placed plate on gentle rocker to ensure that media washes over cells while incubating
Eventually, once I can successfully keep the cells alive for 72hr I plan to stimulate with LPS and ConA and monitor for 72 hr for proliferation. Proliferation will be determined using a standard MTT assay.
If anyone has any advice as to what might be going on it would be greatly appreciated!
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Kindly look at PDF files will help you
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After exposure, we will extract blood and determine its ALT and AST levels.
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No feeding during the experiment will surely affect your results. To feed fish daily is as important as you also enjoy food everyday!
You can add this herbicide in fish feed formulation and just compare your results with control and treated. 7 day trial is too short for the true results, It should be of 90 days at least. 
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I'm relating  the occurrence of micr plastic in the gut of fish species to its total length to see if there's a relation. I feel that the gape size in relation to the micro plastic would be a better comparison to make and therefore, using the data of total length and occurrence of micro plastic, is it possible to obtain a gape size? 
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You can find 61 species' TL-gape relationships in my publication, as well as general ones based on species' functional trophic groups:
KARACHLE PK & STERGIOU KI. 2011. Mouth allometry and feeding habits in fishes. – Acta Ichthyologica et Piscatoria, 41 (4): 255-275. (attached)
To my knowledge there is no such general relationship .
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Voula
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Following the recent International Symposium on Fish Endocrinology in Buenos Aires, the question was raised within the international committee if a Society for Fish Endocrinology (SFE) should be created. The president of the committee, Olivier Kah, has therefore sent out the attached survey together with a background explanation to the idea. Everybody is encouraged to fill out the survey and send to Olivier Kah by e-mail.
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The International Society for Fish Endocrinology has now been established, see https://isfendo.com/
As the question is no longer valid, I tried to delete it, but found out that it's not possible to delete RG questions which have already received answer(s).
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Does fish species Baltic Herring [Clupea Harengus Membras] can be considered the same sensitive to underwater noise (Hearing specialist) as Atlantic Herring [Clupea Harengus] as researchers usually note that extrapolation within the species should be not made or made with extra precautions?
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Higgs 2004 "Neuroethology and sensory ecology of teleost ultrasound detection" I supose best answer is in this paper.
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I did all the analysis about the animal feed, fish feed to be exact. One of the analysis was NFE. Is NFE and carbohydrates is the same thing but only different term? 
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Nitrogen Free Extract (NFE)
NFE is determined by mathematical calculation. It is obtained by subtracting the sum of
percentages of all the nutrients already determined from 100.
%NFE = 100-(%moisture + %CF + %CP + %EE + %Ash)
NFE represents soluble carbohydrates and other digestible and easily utilizable non-nitrogenous substances in feed.Total carbohydrate component was crud fiber and soluble carbohydrate (NFE), NFE was the source of energy since most fishes can not digest fiber.
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We need to increase the conc. of vit. A in the common carp pellets because signs related to insufficient amount of this vit. were noticed in the floating cages   
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Hi Adel, may you dissolve vitamin A in oil and spray over pellets?
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I'm interested in being able to estimate total body fat in trout and salmon, both through invasive and non-invasive methods. One possibility appears to be to use the Distell Fish Fat Meter, but I'm certainly interested in hearing about other ways of assessing body fat content.
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Hi Björn,
I used the Distell Fish Fatmeter to evaluate small pelagic fish lipid content (mainly anchovy, sardine and sprat). It works quite well, we compared Fatmeter estimations with lipid extraction by Folch method and it correlated well.
I confirm the fact that "the standardized measurement of well-defined body zones that need to be strictly the same for all fish if we want to be able to compare them" as Nicolas said.
In the different studies, the lowest fat content that I measured was 1.8%.
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I just cleaned a S. glanis skull, and I cannot find a good paper on the osteological anatomy of the species. Could anyone recommend me some, or help in identify the questionable bones?
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Márton
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Hello, 
You can also use this illustrated database: http://fishbone.nottingham.ac.uk/
Silurus is among the entries. 
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I need to identify ornamented fish bone elements. The ornamentation is glossy like ganoin, in thick and wide, longitudinal striae on the outer surface of the bones. The bones themselves are similar to fin rays, however, I am not sure.
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Identification
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Dear all,
for sure, dissection will bring a final result for this! But, as everyone knows it is an invasive and destructive method. Testing if echographia could be applied here could be interesting. At least, it will preserve animals.
This technique may provide results for mature animals, but for juveniles and immatures, I guess that dissection remains the sole applicable method.
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More colourful, enhanced features like fins and tails of various shapes and sizes.
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Reasons will be related to light penetration on clear waters as hill streams. Fish skin have melanophores that, stimulated by sunlight can produce different colour  as we see in the Pantanal. The same fish, if it is in clear water,  is more colourfull than in  lowland water.
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In birds, egg binding might cause yolk peritonitis, septicaemia or etc. What about in fish? Do they absorb the eggs? Do the eggs accumulate and become solid?
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My experience is that with the injection of hormone (Ex: Ovaprim) as a releasing agent, eggs final maturation occur and if they do not spawn naturally or by striping septicemic condition might occur and brood fish might die in due course. we should ensure water hygienic condition. Most of the time overripe eggs may biologically absorbed and refurbish at the next cycle.
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i used neutral buffered formalin to fix fish tissues liver , muscles and gills is  it important to make three changes from it before put these samples in 70% ethyl alchol?
are there in changes for 70% ethyl alchol also ?
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Hi Wolfgang,
Thank you for your response. Admittedly there are a number of histopathology handbooks that state the maxim of "20:1 volume to volume ratio', however my statement of using 10:1 is not merely based on my own professional experience but is also in the literature.
If you refer to the highly regarded histological book "Theory and Practice of Histological Techniques" 6th Ed, edited by Bancroft and Gamble, you will find the comment "fixative volume should be at least ten times the  volume of the tissue specimen...".
There are even papers that suggest as little volume as 2:1 is adequate (under controlled temperature and pressure variables). Though this isn't a ratio that I have come across in practice.
Using lower volumes of formalin is more than an 'economic factor' in any laboratory where health and safety is a consideration. 
I would also suggest that some of the tissue specimens you mention that have suffered from inadequate fixation may have suffered in delay from theatre to the lab, or whether the specimen was 'opened up' in a timely manner to allow inner tissue penetration.
I think we can probably agree that understanding fixation and its principles is more useful than sticking to a one rule fits all ratio.
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Sarah
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iam in need to know what is the  best fixative and its preparation protocol to fix fish muscles and liver for latter histopathology ?
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Dear Afaf Mohamed ,
I usually use the Bouin's fluid (Aquous solution of picric acid = 75ml + formaldehide PA = 25ml + 05 ml de Acetic Acid) for animal tissues in general, for traditional histology with hematoxylin-eosin .
This is because it does not deform the histological parts.
It causes immediate cristalization of proteins, which prevents the muscle fibers to contract with the fixation .
It also allows a brighter color, leaving the affinity heads anilines more receptive to the stainings.
It is a faster fixator and the histological fragments should have a maximum of 1 cubic centimeter. Use of 8 to 20 times the volume of the histological fragment by up to 3 days.
Empty Bouin liquid and pass the pieces to 70 % alcohol.
But if you are studying glycogen storage , I indicate the alcoholic Bouin ( Gendre ) , because the alcohol will not allow the muscle or liver glycogen dissolves and colorings with Periodic Acid Schiff occur properly .
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There are many pearly razorfish at the same place but this has spots only.
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It looks like subcutaneous lesions - possibly of parasitic origin. I would try to dissect into one of the spots and examine microscopically to see what's there.
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I'm trying to achieved a normalized number of brook trout stocked in lake by life stages. As stocking can be realized with eggs, fry, alevins or 1+ individuals, those "stocking intensity" in sens of number of individuals stocked are difficult to compare (as more eggs are normally stocked than 1+ fish). Applying a stages-specific % of survival to the sexual maturity, or reproduction can help normalize those numbers.   
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Yes - the best reference would be:
Peterson et al. 2008.  When eradication is not an option: modeling strategies for electrofishing suppression of nonnative brook trout to foster persistence of sympatric native cutthroat trout in small streams.  North American Journal of Fisheries Management 28:1847-1867
But the following would also be good to read to help provide context:
Peterson and Fausch 2003 Testing population-level mechanisms of invasion by a mobile vertebrate: a simple conceptual framework for salmonids in streams.  Biological Invasions 5:239-259.
Peterson et al. 2004.  Population ecology of an invasion: effects of brook trout on native cutthroat trout.  Ecological Applications 14:754-772
These papers studied wild fish, but ratios should be analogous...
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iam going to quantify total protein in fish muscles, so what should i do for the tissues  before using kits for quantification ?
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If you're looking for simple procedures, you should homogenize the fish tissue in an adequate buffer (either using an ultra-sounds probe or a mechanical homogenization approach), centrifuge the debris and use the supernatant in the quantification kit.
This wont render a protein extract neither clean enough for further applications, nor 100% efficient in the extraction of protein.
Another (the most important) consideration to make is the choice of buffer. Standard protocol involves using PBS, which I recomend for its simplicity and compatibility with most quantification kits. However, some other buffers might be more efficient.
As to this point, if you want further help, it would be nice for you to say what protein quantification kit you have available... when extraction is made with the sole purpose of quantifying protein, it is better to design homogenization having the kit in consideration.
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iam going to quantify the total protein and total lipids in fish muscles and antioxidant enzymes in liver , so i want to know what is the best buffer  protocol for homogenization of these tissues?
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For antioxidants
·         Weighted the organs i.e liver.
·         Added phosphate buffer (pH 7.4) 4 times greater than the weight of organ i.e 1:4.
·         Homogenize it for 15 minutes with the help of pestle and mortar or with the help of homogenizer with short intermissions.
·         Passed the homogenized tissues through muslin cloth to remove the biomass.
·         Filtered the liquid obtained from muslin cloth with the help of whatman filter paper no. 1.
·         Centrifuged the filtrate obtained above step in refrigerator centrifugal machine at 10, 000 rotates per minutes for 15 minutes.
·         Both sediments and supernatants separated for further analysis.
·         All the enzyme isolation steps will be carried out at 4°C.
The supernatants and sediments were stored at 4°C until further analysis.
Preparation of 50 mM phosphate buffer (pH 7.0):
0.371 g NaH2PO4 and 0.270 g Na2HPO4 was taken in a flask and added distilled water to make volume upto 100 mL and pH was adjusted 7.0.
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iam going to determine fish muscle total protein and total lipids and i want to know how to prepare PBS 0.1 M, ph =7.4 for homogenition ?
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Hi Afaf,
the following link provides the desired buffer table
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Please, i how do i preserve the gastrointestinal tract of fishes for E.L.I.S.A viral analysis?
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Hi Michael,
what are you trying to get with the ELISA?
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Has anybody got a good handbook or online guide for the identification of teleost white blood cells? We want to do differential counts and I am unsure about some of the cells I see after Giemsa/DiffQuick staining. A good guide would be helpful. Guides for higher vertebrates are not very useful due to considerable differences. Thanks.
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For simple and easy method use Turk's solution. You can see the WBC as colored by blue or violet under microscope.
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Certain heavy metals are known to be carcinogen in fish.
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Hg.and Pb-  
Hg because form dimethyl compound or methylmercury cation
Pb because i have been found that from concentracion of 1  ppm changes the behaviour of fishes,
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It would be a fish remnant (Siluridae). Regards, Hans
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Besten Dank! Werde nachfragen, alles Gute!
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I want to make histologic structure of mudskipper's gill. Do i need decalcify first then proceed to dehidration ? Because i think its gill archhis not too hard and whole structure of gill is not that big .
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First of all it depends on age of fish.If you want to get  slides of good quality you have to decalcify Gills of adult fish
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I will be very happy if you could provide some refferences for me
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Dear Christopher, thank you for your kindness reply.
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Hilsa Sp Tenualosa Ilisa
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It is easy to perform procedures for sex inversion (sex reversal) using enclosed facilities. The procedures for the sex reversal of open water fish depends on a lot of factors. What species of fish will you be using and at what stage of the fish will you administer sex reversal? For species like tilapia, sex reversal is performed by feeding them with hormone-treated feeds for 17-21 days (at fry stage) . There are also research conducted by immersing eggs in hormone solution for 24-96 hours. You may try immersing the fry / egg first in a hormone solution. 
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I need guidelines for the isolation of bioactive compounds from fish. 
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Thanks for the articles. I have got the 1st one. Please send me the 2nd article.
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Does anyone have a formula or know of a reference for converting fixed fish ovary weights (10% buffered formalinl) to fresh ovary weights for species with high fecundity? I may not be able to obtain samples for my species of interest (sablefish, Anoplopoma fimbria).
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Fixation in buffered formalin may have a small effect on gonad weight, however it shouldn't be large as the fixative is intended to avoid significant distortion of tissues. I have provided a link to a study done on spanish mackerel, which are superficially similar to sablefish, and provides conversion equations which may be useful.  
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If using large fish, I can use its blood to assess osmolality, electrolyte content, stress indicator (such as blood glucose), hormone, etc, what if i use small fish? is whole body measurement reliable enough?
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You cannot use whole body values instead of blood values for many hormones, since their targets in the body can be widely varying in the tissues, and because blood volume is only 3-4 % of the total fish volume. So, even if you in large fish, where blood sampling succeeds easily, see a significant change in a hormone concentration of blood, if hormone binding occurs only in a small percentage of the rest of the body, any change may remain undetected in whole body measurements because of limits of resolution of the methods. Where the hormones are secreted to water (only some of them are), the water measurements can be a useful measure (of changes).
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i want expose toxicant substances on fish red blood cells.
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Maybe this review is helpful
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Clock genes are controlled by the temperature and photoperiod. But I wanted to know different temperatures like 15c,250 c,350 c so on.How to regulate the expression of clock genes of different temperatures? Kindly anyone tell me or send me any research article regarding this.
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Yes indeed, the clock is temperature compensated.
From my experience - I mean in vitro experiments using pike or white sucker pineal glands-  temperature cycles can synchronize the melatonin secretion rhythm under LD. Temperature cycles can also synchronize the rhythm under DD, i.e., it can synchronize the pineal clocks. However, a return to constant conditions (temperature & DD) results in an loss of the endogenous melatonin rhythm. This suggests to me that temperature cycles cannot entrain the pineal clocks. Another indication of this is that the melatonin rhythm  is of high amplitude providing the temperature applied during the night (or subjective night) is as closed as possible to the preferred fish temperature. Whether this applies to other clocks in the fish organism, I don't know. I can send you some refs later if you want to.
Melatonin is one output of the pineal clocks. How does temperature impact the clock genes ? I cannot tell. I suspect it may have to do with the fish thermal preferences and aerobic scope.
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Most of the researchers have reported heavy metal content more in gills or liver and least in muscles and they have provided evidence that gills are most exposed organs to heavy metals in water and liver in the main transforming organ and least preferred destination are muscles. Is there any other scientific reason.
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Accumulation of copper and zinc in higher concentrations in comparison with other organs is characteristic of the liver, which is associated with exchange - depositing liver function. Gill epithelia in comparison with other integuments of fish has a substantially larger surface area and actively interacts with the external environment, so gills virtually have no protection from the effects of different substances present in water including metals.
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Specifically this question is in relation to RGR of fish under Stress environment for fishes. 
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Stressed fish generally grow more slowly than non-stressed fish. Stress elevates cortisol which has a direct suppressive effect on growth. Also, energy that would otherwise be directed to somatic growth is used to combat the effects of stressors. I've attached an old article of ours with some useful citations.
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Is there any method to determine the digestibility of feed on fish without using chromic oxide? Most literature I've found used chromic oxide as an indicator. However, I didn't incorporated the chromic oxide in the feed that I tested on the fish. The fish I'm using is red hybrid tilapia.
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You can use endogenous or internal markers which are naturally available in the feed such as: ash, crude fiber, cellulose and hydrolysis resistant organic matter. You only need to determine one of these internal indicators in the feed and fecal, then use the formula according to Cho and Slinger (1979) for calculating ADC. For more information please find attached file.
ADC (%) = 100 – [100 × (marker in diet / marker in faeces)] × [(% nutrient in faeces / % nutrient in diet)]. 
Cho, C.Y., Slinger, S.J., 1979. Apparent digestibility measurements in feed stuffs for rainbow       trout. In: Halver, J.E., Tiews, K. (Eds.), Finfish Nutrition and Fish feed Technology, Vol.     2. Heinemann, Berlin, Germany, pp. 239–247.
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I'm in literature search with the increase in the protein content in fish (mackerel and sardines), over the last decade.
In recent years, the results of our analyzes showed a clear evolution of the protein content:
We passed from 11.4g / 100g (2008) to 18g / 100g (2014) => this is much more a variation due to a change of diet, or a laying period.
WHY?
Because of an evolution of the species?
What assumptions can we emit?
What are the causes of variability in the protein content in both species?
thanks for your help
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Hi Marvin, was increase in protein content correlated with decrease in fat content? If yes, it might be related to differences in water temperature due to oceanographic (climate) changes or sample bias. In warmer waters expenses on metabolism are higher so less of fat to deposit.
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I'm currently working on a PCB contamination dataset in several flatfish and round fish species. I'd like to compare the cytochrome P450 activity to explain the inter-specific differences in PCB contamination.
So I'd like to know is somewhere is aware of studies comparing enzymatic activity between flat and round species, expecting that flatfish species living close to contamination in sediment would have developed higher detoxification activity.
Thanks for your help !
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Hi Pierre,
The logics in your supposition is an obvious, and based on the following strong experimental and epidemiologic data. Thus, in Stefanelli et al. paper entitled “Organochlorine compounds in tissues of swordfish (Xiphias gladius) from Mediterranean Sea and Azores island” (Mar Pollut Bull. 49(11-12):938-50, 2004), to develop sensitive biomarkers for the evaluation of toxicological risk, 34 congeners of PCB were measured in swordfishes (Xiphias gladius) taken from the Mediterranean Sea along the Sicilian coast (Strait of Messina, Italy) and in the PCB-clear Atlantic Ocean along the Azores Islands. In the tissues of Mediterranean swordfishes the sum of the determined PCBs congeners ranged from 4.61 to 4651.17 ng g(-1) on fresh tissue basis. In the liver of Azores Island swordfishes lower levels of summation PCBs (8.43-294.17 ng/g w.w.). Thereafter, Maria Fossi et al continue that approach by publishing a paper entitled “Endocrine Disruptors in Mediterranean Top Marine Predators” (ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE AND POLLUTION RESEARCH 13(3):204-7, 2006), where they investigated P4501A1 activity (namely, ethoxyresorufin-o-deethylase) in the pelagic fishes live in neither close to the bottom nor near the shore, such as the swordfish and also in tuna fish from the same Strait of Messina. A 4-year survey revealed almost 3 times higher P4501A1 activity in the liver of that species, comparing to that ones from Atlantic Ocean along the Azores Islands. The role of increased bottom level of PCBs along the Strait of Messina statistically correlated with the above induction of ethoxyresorufin-o-deethylase in the livers from swordfish and tuna fish.
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Ilya
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Specific growth has the relationship with FCR, temperature, pH etc. 
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We just conducted a study investigating a growth-promoting chemical with yellow perch (Perca flavescens) reared at 24°C. The fish were fed a high quality diet to satiation twice daily. The controls had specific growth rates of around 3-4. The experimental fish had SGRs from 5-8. In the wild SGRs for this species are in the 1-2 range. 
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I have treated my fish with dietary prebiotics and probiotics for 16 weeks. This was my first phase.
The second phase was started with the treated fish fed with control diet without any feed supplementation. I want to see how long the feeding trial of dietary prebiotics and probiotics on growth and other performance? I got a good result. But my question is:
Has anybody done the same experiment with other or same diet supplements for fish? If so, let me give the reference and provide the full paper, please.
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Thank you all. You will see my paper very soon.
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 Can anybody assist me in getting a reference giving number of vertebrae of the following clupeid fish specie:
A. Chacunda, D. acuta, S. albella, S. gibbosa, S. longiceps, S. sindensis
many thanks
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None of these  species occurs in Mediterranean.
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is there oil vacuoles in rainbow trout liver tissue. Can I get your comments on liver and villi? Thank you.
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  • First I want to thank you for your reply. Are you sure fat accumulation dots in villi. Are dots vesicle for endocytosis - pinocytosis?
In histological sections through the intestine image, can be observed some goblet cells (large white dots). Other dots (smaller) are vesicle for endocytosis - pinocytosis.
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Some have information in the use of kernel density estimator estimation in the evaluation of stocks of tunas?
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Yes indeed. Try this document by Walt Golet.
Golet WJ, Galuardi B, Cooper AB, Lutcavage ME (2013) Changes in the Distribution of Atlantic Bluefin Tuna (Thunnus thynnus) in the Gulf of Maine 1979-2005. PLoS ONE 8(9): e75480. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0075480
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I need measures as the total length, disc width , caudal spine legth and dimensions of the dental plates for Myliobatidae family.
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I would suggest to consult the following references:
Capapé, C. and M. Desoutter 1979. Nouvelle description de Aetomylaeus nichofi (Bloch et Schneider, 1801) (Pisces, Myliobatidae). Premières observations biologiques. Cahiers de l'Indo-Pacifique v. 4: 305-322.
Ruocco, N. L. , L. O. Lucifora, J. M. Díaz de Astarloa, E. Mabragaña, and S. M. Delpiani 2012. Morphology and DNA barcoding reveal a new species of eagle ray from the southwestern Atlantic: Myliobatis ridens sp. nov. (Chondrichthyes: Myliobatiformes: Myliobatidae). Zoological Studies v. 51 (no. 6): 862-873.
White, W. T. 2014. A revised generic arrangement for the eagle ray family Myliobatidae, with definitions for the valid genera. Zootaxa 3860 (no. 2): 149-166.
White, W. T. , J. Kawauchi, S. Corrigan, E. Rochel and G. J. P. Naylor 2015. Redescrition of the eagle rays Myliobatis hamlyni Ogilby, 1911 and M. tobijei Bleeker, 1854 (Myliobatiformes: Myliobatidae) from the east Indo-West Pacific. Zootaxa 3948 (no. 3): 521-528.
White, W. T. , P. R. Last and L. Baje 2015. Aetomylaeus caeruleofasciatus, a new species of eagle ray (Myliobatiformes: Myliobatidae) from northern Australia and New Guinea. Ichthyological Research: [1-16].
White, W. T. , P. R. Last, G. J. P. Naylor, K. Jensen and J. N. Caira 2010. Clarification of Aetobatus ocellatus (Kuhl, 1823) as a valid species, and a comparison with Aetobatus narinari (Euphrasen, 1790) (Rajiformes: Myliobatidae). In: Descriptions of new sharks and rays from Borneo. CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research Paper No. 032: 141-164.
White, W. T. and A. B. M. Moore 2013. Redescription of Aetobatus flagellum (Bloch & Schneider, 1801), an endangered eagle ray (Myliobatoidea: Myliobatidae) from the Indo-West Pacific. Zootaxa 3752 (no. 1): 199-213.
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Hi all,
I have length-weight data of fish. Before doing analysis, should do log transform for both length and weight data? I know and did long transform for length data to remove size-dependent variations but how about the weight data?
Thanks so much!
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Hello Ahasan,
I suggest that you start simple - no transformation yet. Using residuals of fish lengths and weights, check if assumptions (eg normality, etc) of your analysis are satisfied. I suggest that you do data transformations only if you can extract additional information that is not available from the simple analysis.
You mentioned reason of performing log-transformation: to remove the size-dependent variation. Again, ensure that you can communicate what resulting log transformed coefficients mean.
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I’m planning to investigate the mucosal immunity of tilapia fish with monogenea parasiting on the gills. My interests include the antibodys and gene expession in the gill mucus. But every time I scraped the mucus I got some blood mixed in it, because of the fragile gill tissue. So how can I get more purer mucus?
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hi, you can use one of microscopic lamel after anesthesia of fish. for collection of mucus pull the lamel on the gill filaments, gently.
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I and my partner are currently proposing a study regarding the impact of 17α-Ethinylestradiol to the sexual development of male largemouth bass. We are planning to start the exposure 30 days post-hatch until the bass becomes sexually mature, however, is the compound safe for the fingerlings? Will it induce juvenile mortality, and if not, what is the maximum concentration to be administered? 
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EE2 is a well known endocrine disruptor, entering aquatic environments mostly due to it being a major, stable component of contraceptive pills. It's an estradiol-mimicker, stimulating cellular processes through its stimulation of the estrogen receptor, which is found in both male and female fish. One of the earliest signs on EE2 exposure will be the appearance of vitellogenin in the circulation of the male fish, which of course is abnormal. So it really depends on your definition of "safe" when you ask if it is safe for the fingerlings..
There is a huge amount of literature on the disruptive effects of EE2 in fish which you'll easily find by simple data search.
I'm wondering what the purpose of the research is?  You haven't explained that. Is it to study endocrine disruption - in that case you should use levels similar as are found in contaminated waters.
You seem to be proposing to expose your fish to EE2 for an extended length of time, from "30 days post-hatch until the bass becomes sexually mature". This must be years rather than months, which means that you have to add a lot of EE2 to the water the fish are being raised in. I hope you have an aquarium system that will not release this EE2 contaminated water into the environment as it's really harmful, and also that you also make very sure that none of the exposed fish goes to human consumption!
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I'm trying to find an x-ray from a healthy bull sharks caudal fin in order to compare it with x-rays from individuals showing spinal deformities. It has been difficult to find in peer reviewed literature, so I appreciate if anyone knows a local database where I could find it. Thanks in advance.
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In the Type image databae of the California Academy of Sciences: Ichthyology, there is an x-ray of the head and the caudal fin of the holotype of Carcharias azureus Gilbert & Starks 1904 (CAS-SU 11890), which is a junior synonym of Carcharhinus leucas (Müller & Henle 1839) -- see the link below.
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I am examining potential differences in functional responses between two fish species and want to supplement this with a basic comparison of their activity level. I do not need to examine specific behaviours (e.g. chases, approaches) so I wondered if I could visually divide the experimental tank into a grid and measure the number of line crosses per unit time as a proxy for activity level? 
Any other basic approaches would be greatly appreciated!
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Malcolm's idea of making a video is quite good enough.I would like to add one point.Activity of a fish as observed is through movement by fins & its eyes. So number of times a particular fin makes a movement as well as eye ball movement can be measured from both the sides.  
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Hi. The fish muscle in cultured fish can sometimes turn yellowish. It is probably due to gassbladder discharge. Does anybody know what is the mechanism, what exactly cause the colour change and the implication the the industry. Any related work that could be of help?
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Sometimes this can be dietary derived, for example the deposition of pigments from corn (maize) that has been included in the feed
This was previously not uncommon in channel catfish farming in USA
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Dear all,
I will be very grateful for sending photos or images, illustrating opercular bones of Hucho hucho and Hucho taimen. Maybe, these images were presented elsewhere in publications?
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Soon, I'II have image with opercular bones of Danube salmon (Hucho hucho). Probably, in a month. For now, we process them (should be dried). 
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For example they can be found in: Inner ear, gills, Skin, kidney, yolk sac.
I was wondering if you could mention more organs and if possible, please give an example (Article).
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I agree with Ramon, in red muscle tissues; in some species of fish one can find more red muscle tissue below the lateral line, especially near the tail-end of the fish. 
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We know that Pituitary Gland (PG) locate in fish brain. What is the name of that specific location/lobe? 
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The pituitary is usually attached to the brain ventrally, in the midline between the inferior lobes, anterior to the saccus vasculosus.
For illustrations of the pituitary in several teleost families see the following paper:
Honma, Y. 1957. On the pituitary gland of some Japanese teleosts. Japanese Journal of Ichthyology, v. 5 (nos 3-6): 175-181.
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Anybody working on fish physiology/Biochemistry
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Wstern blotting is OK, on the other hand one does not determine protein with qPCR, only the template so one does not know anything about protein level without previous inormation about mRNA protein correspondence
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tilapia fish, catfish
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Please refer to follow book.
Methods for the estimation of production of aquatic animals.  by G.G. Winberg
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Dear all, I am working on an ecotoxicological study of tropical fish. But I find it difficult to get a solid reference on the subject matter. I appreciate if you would suggest a good book for me to refer to. 
Thank you
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I think this book will be good for you
Water Pollution and Fish Physiology
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The hagfish (Mixinidae) are seemingly the descendents of the most ancient animals on the planet developed the gallbladder. It would be interesting to learn more of the oldest gallbladder anatomy, function, and histological traits. This may shed also some light both to its normal function and the spectrum of its congenital disorders. The sketch drawn (after Gorham & Ivy, 1938, with changes) and provided below is my attempt to show the putative evolutionary tree of the gallbladder having about 500 million years.
Comments to the picture:
  • a horizontal bar - for the orders lack the organ completely
  • a single GB shape - for the orders having the organ in some species and lacking in others (partly devoided the gallbladder)
  • a double GB shape - for the orders possess the organ obligately
  • a dotted GB shape - for the extint orders (putatively possessed the organ)
  • a red GB colour - for the completely carnivorous orders
  • a green GB colour - for the completely herbivorous orders
  • a brown GB colour - for the omnivorous orders
  • a patched GB - if the order included both carnivorous and herbivorous species
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Hi Andrey,
This is a fascinating topic - The pattern of absences and presences strongly suggests that convergent evolutions of a gallbladder are at least possible. And certainly it is often lost (as in many bird groups). This is a secondary source, but Kardong's textbook (Vertebrates) states that the gallbladder is lacking in "cyclostomes" (518). This might also be loss; people tend to forget that hagfish and lampreys are highly specialized animals. 
If you intend to pursue this further, the next step might be to rework a Gorham and Ivy -style diagram, but with modern relationships. Since their paper, taxonomic opinions and cladistics in particular have changed much of this phylogeny. I see you have added Afrotheria, which brings out the pattern of loss in Elephants. Contra the figure sharks certainly have a gall bladder, by the median lobe of the liver in dogfish for example.
I can't agree more that there are some fascinating lacunae left behind in modern science - ample work for us to pursue. 
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I'm working in a seafood manufacturing company. Recently we noticed a major shrinkage of Alaska Pollock fillets after we cook it. Can the spawning season of the fish effect the shrinkage of the fillet due to lack of nutrients and minerals in the fish? Or is it because of the water holding capacity in the fish that effects the shrinkage issue?
Appreciate your expertise in this.
Thank you.
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Some times government quality control officer visited our fish processing industry once or twice in a month; they usually defrost our frozen processing sea-food. Defrost, frost in once, it might be OK to avoid shrinkage; but more than once it might be caused for shrinkage. Controlling of temperature during transportation is the helpful for avoiding shrinkage. I am referring the HACCP manual which means Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point. 
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How I can investigate 17beta estradiol in crayfish? Do you know the method of investigation 17beta estradio in auatic animal samples or crayfish?
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Using either gamma counter of Elisa technique.You are able to perform with either of them.Ask more question if you need.
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It has been quite along time since our zebrafish laid eggs. We follow basic roles such as adjust light cycle light 8hr and night 16 hour, keep water temperature around 28 °C, pick slender yellow male fish and chubby silver female fish for mating and feed artemia salina twice a day. According to my observation, I suppose that the cold weather may be the main reason because it began in early winter. However, we use temperature controllers to keep the temperature around 28 °C, but the problem still persists. Have I missed any critical point?
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Ah. Sympathies! I hate when that happens. A few things to add to the good advice already given:
Check that the light cycle timers are working - ours was once set for 14/10 but stuck "on", and that devastated breeding cycles for a while. Same can happen if someone's there at 'night' opening the door and disrupting the dark period.
Another thing you could try could be to tilt the mating tank inserts so that the grating lies at an angle - the zebrafish like to spawn on the shallow "beach" end, almost out of the water. Sometimes that helps when mine won't lay. You could also try autoclaved plastic plants or marbles to give the mating tanks some more natural features, and make sure there are plastic plants in the adult aquariums if there are only a few adults, because they're sometimes stressed/bullied by dominant in that situation.
I don't know how chubby the females are, but if they haven't laid it a while you could try gently squeezing them, perhaps they're eggbound? Also, how old are the fish you're using?
Goodluck!
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What is the relation of measuring toxic compounds in fish before maturity?
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There are many reasons for use juvenile:
- It’s a critical life-stage for the survival of a population
- juveniles are more sensitive to toxic
- adults may have been subjected to selection pressure : juveniles represent all the genetic variability
- there are more confounding factor with adults : stage of maturity, sex (M/F), etc. could modulate the response to toxic
- juvenile are more small and more practical for laboratory experiment with many individuals
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I am trying to adapt an HPLC method to measure cortisol in fish plasma. My main problem is that my standard and sample retention times don't match. I have a 20 mg/L hydrocortisone standard (Sigma Aldrich) diluted in 60% acetonitrile. To precipitate the proteins in the sample, the fish plasma was centrifuged in acetonitrile (aceto:plasma 60:40) at 13,000 g for 10 min prior to injection into the HPLC. I suspect that the cortisol in the plasma is still bound to a protein (probably transcortin), which could explain the different RT. Some methods use SPE cartridges to extract cortisol, but I would prefer not to use them if possible to reduce the analysis cost.
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Dear Plante,
It is hard to accept the retention time of a certain compound differs in different medium (acetonitril and plasma). specially when fluorescent detection method is applied. However, I faced same problem in my assay of amino acids (gradient mobile phase). By changing the percentage of mobile phases, my problem was solved.
Hope it helps.
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Hello All. I am working on Ocean Acidification and fish physiology , could any one please help me in by calculating the relevant pH value for 10 ppt and 2.5 ppt  salt water with pCO2 values of 380, 1000 and 1900 respectively or by suggesting any relevant formulae or tool for it . Thank you in advance .
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Hi Nitin, in addition to the pCO2, you are going to need either the total alkalinity or the total CO2 (the dissolved inorganic carbon). 
Assuming you have either of those, you can download the Excel-based CO2sys ocean carbonate calculator, available at http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/oceans/co2rprt.html
If you are familiar with the r-project, there is a very nice library called seacarb (http://www.obs-vlfr.fr/~gattuso/seacarb.php).  
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Fish have various ways of depositing fat as energy reserves. Some ("fatty") species have a lot of fat deposited in their muscle tissue whereas others ("lean") species may have large liver as their major energy reserve. Yet other species deposit a lot of visceral fat in body cavity. What is the fat content of tilapia muscle, how large is the liver, and do they deposit a lot of visceral fat? If possible, provide me with scientific references.
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Resting plasma glucose levels (mg/dL)
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I need to measure opercular ventilation frequency in some captive Atlantic cods. Some fish stay still so it's quite easy to visual count the opercular beats, but others don't stop swimming in the tank.
Is there any way to standardize the method, making all the fish stay still? Also, I wonder how the presence of the observer can impact the results. Maybe some fish get scared more easily than others, modifying their ventilation frequency.
I have a variety of tanks and aquariums of different sizes that could be used.
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Dear David,
I think you should use a camera to avoid the stress caused by your presence.
The whole experiment could be filmed which would be better than visual observation because you can watch the film as many times as you want.
Cheers, Roland
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I am working on estimating growth parameters and developing growth models. I have age, weight and length data from several hundred fish collected across a broad study area. I was wondering if anyone has came across any interesting articles or documents discussing the development of growth models and estimating growth parameters?
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Thanks for the suggestion. My original thought was to compare growth parameters between regions. Additionally determine if differences in growth parameters are due to tissue contaminate concentrations.
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I am working on the expression of ornithine-urea cycle genes and proteins in fish. But the problem is that we do not have fish-specific CPS III available commercially. So if anyone has CPS III antibody or has any knowledge about it, it would be a huge help for our research.
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I am working in gene expression studies of walking catfish (Clarias batrachus). We use in vivo models for the treated conditions. But to study the inhibitor effects I need to have primary cell culture. So I would be grateful if anyone can provide primary hepatocytes or primary kidney cell line!
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I tried several time for preparing primary cell line from some fish, it is a bit difficult but you should attention about the degree around trypsinized tissue
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I measured physiological responses (cortisol, glucose, total protein, cholesterol, triglyceride and lactate) of astacus leptodactylus to handling stress during 10, 20, 30, 60, 120, 240, 480 min and 24h and 48h after handling stress.
In this study, I had to take hemolymph without anesthesia because it is took about 15 minutes for anesthesia astacus leptodactylus with clove powder. So, I took hemolymph from sinus with 2ml syringe without (without using any anesthetic material) anesthesia. At the end of study, after measured cortisol and glucose were in height levels in all the times (10, 20, 30, 60, 120, 240, 480 min and 24h and 48h) and I found no difference in levels of cortisol and glucose during these times (10, 20, 30, 60, 120, 240, 480 min and 24h and 48h).
Why didn't I find any difference in level of cortisol and glucose during these times? Is taking hemolymph without anesthesia the cause? (I took hemolymph from crayfish just in short time taking hemolymph just took 4min for every treatment).
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Dear Ardavan
i think you can be use follow article for you research
Blood glucose in crayfish—II. Variations induced by artificial stress
Physiological Responses to Acid Stress in Crayfish (Orconectes): Haemolymph Ions, Acid–Base Status, and Exchanges with the Environment
Neuroendocrine and metabolic responses of Pacific whiteleg shrimp Litopenaeus vannamei exposed to acute handling stress
Stress reduces hemolymph ecdysteroid levels in the crab: mediation by the eyestalks‏
i hope usefull
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Starvation is a situation undergone and tolerated by many species of fish in their natural environment in response to several factors (e.g. temperature, spawning migration, reproduction, etc.). To survive these periods of unfavorable feeding conditions, fish reduce their energy expenditures, which in a high percentage are derived from protein synthesis, and mobilize their endogenous reserves to obtain the energy required to maintain the vital processes. This response entails physiological and metabolic changes that are species dependent. Moreover, intra-specific adjustments to these conditions will depend on different factors such as fish age, nutritional state, etc.
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One need to be very careful to interpret the relative amount of nutrients. If lipids are reduce according to protein, then the protein will increase relative to the lipids. This does not mean that protein increases itself. One could for instance try to manage net changes. If you have the initial weight from the animals with their proximate composition in absolute numbers, you can compare to those data after starvation. By analysing their reduction in weight in absolute number an related to the proximate composition.
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I want to work out the serum lipid profile of fish after affecting with heavy metals. Is it fine to do so? And only serum lipid profile is enough? What will I derive from it?
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while acknowledging the fact that there are many studies on lipid profiling (fatty acid, cholesterol, oxysterol, phytosterol and phospholipid content) in response to toxicants, heavy metals, etc., you could expand your idea on testing antioxidant enzymes, which are directly associated with lipid profiling. Some pesticides such as dicofol increased oxidative stress by elevation of lipid peroxidation index associated with depletion in glutathione level. Cu intake at high concentration induced adverse effects on lipid profile, associated with oxidative stress and diminished activities of antioxidant enzymes.
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Often, cortisol levels in fish are measured immunologically using antibodies with high (or non-defined) cross-reactivity with corticosterone. A few references (and I'm looking for more) indicate that fish may have relatively high corticosterone levels (higher than cortisol), making these "cortisol" assays and reported results of limited value.
I'm happy to learn more about cortisol/corticosterone levels and functional relationships in various fish species.
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Björn, cortisone and corticosterone only differ by a keto group on C11 in cortisone (substituted by a hydroxyl group in corticosterone), but perhaps the papers by Franci Weyts on cortisone and cortisol in carp are interesting. She uses an antibody raised against a cortisol-BSA-adduct with <10% cross-reactivity to cortisone.
She also measures an increase in plasma levels of both cortisol and cortisone in response to a stressor.
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I determine the heavy metal (Cu, Ni, Fe, Co, Mn, Cr, Zn) accumulation levels in channa punctatus and also performed histopathology. The liver cells shows presence of much lipids/lipidogenesis. Now the question whether lipidogenesis promotes more accumulations of heavy metals or is it developed in response to the defensive action of fish liver?
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I believe that the metals are the cause of steatosis that you have found. In human pathology is well known that one of the causes of non-alcoholic steatohepatitis are heavy metals (even if the root cause is metabolic and metals probably interfere with the metabolism). I beg to enclose an article that perhaps it will be useful (Advances in metal-induced oxidative stress and human disease). good work
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I am measuring common carp metabolism using a respirometry box. Regarding that, I have measured routine metabolic rate (RMR) and maximum metabolic rate (MMR) in rest and unfed fish, and following exhaustive activity respectively.
Now, I am going to calculate aerobic scope (or metabolic scope) that seems to calculate SMR initially. The question is how does calculate the SMR without measuring fish activity (swimming speed)?
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I suggest that you make a frequency distribution of all your resting/routine determination and the fit them to the sum of two normal distributions - as described in "Steffensen, J. F., Bushnell, P. G. & Schurmann, H. (1994). Metabolic rate of 4 Arctic species of teleosts from Greenland. Polar Biology, 14; 49-54" that can be downloaded from here: http://www.mbl.ku.dk/jfsteffensen/Publications/PolarBiol%201993%20JFS.pdf or from Research Gate.
The normal distribution to the left represent resting or standard metabolic rate - the normal distribution to the left routine metabolism.
This method requires that you have quite a few metabolic rate determinations. This can be obtained by intermittent respirometry as described in: " Steffensen, J.F. (1989). Some errors in respirometry of aquatic breathers: how to avoid and correct for them. Fish. Physiol. Biochem. 6; 49-59" that can be downloaded from here"http://www.mbl.ku.dk/jfsteffensen/Publications/FishPhysiolBiochem%201989%20JFS.pdf or from Research Gate.
Software (free-ware and open-source) for automated respirometry can be found at http://www.AquaResp.com - a new version written in Phyton will be available soon. This version will be able to run on PCs, Macs as well as Raspberrry Pi
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I am working on toxicology of fishes and observed that highest accumulation occur in liver, gills and kidney. Therefore want to know how they detoxify heavy metals in general and in particular by liver because it is the detoxifying organ.
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Hi Javed
To clearly answer your question, I think you should search on google to find out the related studies. I recommend you to read one of my paper and find the paper's references and I think that you will answer your question. Good luck with your studies.
Le et al, 2010. Distribution of Trace Metals and Methylmercury in Soft Tissues of the Freshwater Eel Anguilla marmorata in Vietnam. Arch Environ Contam Toxicol
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1. Prepare anaesthetic solution (dosage should be sufficient to anaesthetize the
fish quickly).
2. Label two microcentrifuge tubes per fish and pre-fill one with 20 μl sample
buffer. Place all test tubes on ice.
3. Anesthetize the fish using an anaesthetic suitable for fish.
4. Fill a capillary tube with a few μl of buffer from a pre-filled test tube.
5. Cut off the tail of the fish at an approximate 45o angle (see picture) a few mm
behind the anus, and collect as much blood as possible from the caudal vein
using the capillary tube.
6. Measure the amount of blood in the tube with a ruler (see picture) and convert
to volume (the conversion factor will depend on the type of capillary tube
employed).
7. Blow out the blood into the tube with sample buffer, mix well. Keep on ice until
next step.
8. Centrifuge the blood samples at 4oC, 3000xG for 10 min. Place on ice.
9. Collect the supernatant (plasma) and transfer to the new, clean tubes.
10. Freeze and store the plasma samples at -80°C.
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