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Вы хотите получить точный прогноз времени землетрясения?
Do you want to get an accurate earthquake forecast?
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That is a very interesting question, but the answer would be much more interesting now that earth is shaking continuously, Dear Prof. Alexandr Yagodin
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Geophysicists have an understanding of the mechanism and causes of earthquakes in the contact zones of tectonic plates. Here, earthquakes occur as a result of the spreading of tectonic plates. Geophysicists have an understanding of the mechanism but not the causes of earthquakes in transform fault zones. Geophysicists have no understanding of either the mechanism or causes of earthquakes with epicenters inside tectonic plates. There is no understanding of the causes of repeated strong shocks. They are simply called foreshocks and aftershocks. about the cause of the aftershock of the Turkish earthquake, there is information in my discussion "The earthquake in Turkey is a consequence of planetary scale geodeformations. Is the concept of stress accumulation before an earthquake wrong?". The theory is in my discussion "Ocean tides and deformations of the Earth's surface of tidal origin have different physics of the process. Why?".
I will give the actual data on earthquakes with a magnitude of more than seven in Turkey on February 6, 2023. Data from open sources on the Internet.
Judging by the Moment tensor map data, both earthquakes had the same Focal_mechanism - Left-lateral strike-slip. The first shock was caused by a shift in direction southwest - northeast. The second shock is caused by a shift in the direction west - east. This was confirmed by the intensity maps of shaking from earthquakes.
With a vertical amplitude of semidiurnal tides in the solid body of the Earth from -13 to +23 cm cm during earthquakes, the indicated amplitudes of horizontal and vertical tidal displacements completely coincided. 12 hours after the aftershock, the amplitude of the vertical tidal displacement decreased only by 5% (it remained high).
Conclusion. While maintaining significant geodeformation energy throughout the whole day of February 6, which was caused by geodeformations on February 3 in changes in the gravitational field, the first earthquake significantly weakened (did not destroy) the tectonic structures of the Eastern Anatolian Fault (azimuth 45 degrees). The aftershock was inevitable. When the tide in the solid body of the Earth repeated itself in phase and amplitude, an aftershock occurred under conditions of powerful geodeformations on a planetary scale. By the second earthquake, the tectonic structures of the Eastern Anatolian Fault were destroyed and transformed into structures with an azimuth of 90 degrees. The third earthquake was already inexpedient, although at 10 pm on February 6 there was quite a lot of energy.
Note. The tides in the solid body of the Earth deform the planet along the parallels and meridians and all existing fault systems (azimuths 17, 35, 45, 62, 77 degrees) transform into a system of block divisibility of the lithosphere 90 degrees.
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Very important data "Preliminary Results of the Great Kahramanmaraş 06 February 2023 Earthquakes (Mw 7.7 and 7.6) and 20 Feburary 2023 Antakya Earthquake (Mw 6.4), Eastern Türkiye TJES"
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“You cannot predict [an earthquake] in the sense that there is no developed theory. There are many hypotheses, one might say, scientific ones, but these are still phenomenological models of earthquake preparation. On this basis, it is impossible to build an earthquake prediction system that would be comparable to, say, a weather forecast. This is one side of the matter - that there is no developed quantitative theory of preparation <...> In fact, the trouble with all the signs [of earthquakes] is that sometimes they are observed, but an earthquake does not occur. Which is just as bad as the fact that an earthquake occurs, but they are not observed. Why do I think the first one is very bad? Because false alarms that can spread in such a situation, and panic undermine confidence in this, as in some kind of serious matter, ”said Ruben Eduardovich.
Why does Tatevosyan lie so shamelessly?
If he does not agree with Rogozhin and Nikolaev, then let him prove it openly!
«Нельзя предвидеть [землетрясение] в том смысле, что не существует разработанной теории. Есть много гипотез, можно сказать, научных, но это все-таки феноменологические модели подготовки землетрясения. На этом основании нельзя построить систему прогноза землетрясения, которая была бы сопоставима, скажем, с прогнозом погоды. Это одна сторона дела – то, что нет разработанной количественной теории подготовки <…> На самом деле беда всех признаков [землетрясений] заключается в том, что иногда они наблюдаются, а землетрясение не происходит. Что так же плохо, как и то, что землетрясение происходит, а они не наблюдаются. Почему я первое считаю очень плохим? Потому что ложные тревоги, которые в такой ситуации могут распространяться, и паника подрывают доверие к этому, как к какому-то серьезному делу», – рассказал Рубен Эдуардович.
Зачем Татевосян так бессовестно лжет?
Если он не согласен с Рогожиным и Николаевым, то пусть докажет это открыто!
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Comments on the message that earthquakes occurred in Kamchatka:
Deputy Director of the Institute of Physical Sciences of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Doctor of Physics and Mathematics. n. Ruben Eduardovich Tatevosyan explained that the Moon has no direct connection with natural disasters. Apparently he did not read the work of the austrophysicist N.A. Kozyrev. and did not read the conclusion of the chairman of the RES Nikolaev on the Genesis of earthquakes and short-term forecast of earthquakes. This is very strange, since even in the Minutes of the 2015 RES meeting this physics of the earthquake process was voiced. Hiding from people? Waiting until there are big casualties? Why does the Russian Academy of Sciences hide from people discoveries recognized by other expert councils of Russia?
Кто додумался заменить Николаева и Рогожина "пустышкой"?
Комментарии на сообщение, что на Камчатке произошли землетрясения:
Зам. директора ИФЗ РАН доктор ф-м. н. Рубен Эдуардович Татевосян объяснил, что Луна не имеет прямой связи с природными катастрофами. Видимо он не читал работы австрофизика Н.А. Козырева. и не читал заключение председателя РЭС Николаева по Генезису землетрясений и краткосрочному прогнозу землетрясений. Это очень странно, так-как даже в Протоколе заседания РЭС 2015 года озвучена эта физика процесса землетрясений. Скрывает от людей? Ждет пока будут большие жертвы? Зачем РАН скрывает от людей открытия, признанные друмя экспертными советами России?
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What broader implications could the adoption of the functional recovery design philosophy have for disaster preparedness and response strategies in urban planning and infrastructure development?
What are some key research directions suggested by the article for advancing the field of functional recovery in earthquake engineering?
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The term resilience is often applied to Desastres only, but in fact, it should encompass everything, including the economic world, and the environment, hence the need for resilience to be holistic
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I am an M.Tech structural engineering student working on the project ' Numerical analysis of Kath-kuni architecture ( a common masonry typology ) in Himachal Pradesh region of India subjected to earthquake loading in ABAQUS software' . The question of concern is that I am finding it difficult to input plasticity parameters for timber/ wood material that I have used in my model even after searching in various research papers. I have got only elasticity parameters and wood being an orthotropic material requires plasticity parameters and a plasticity damage model to be defined in order to understand the actual material behavior in ABAQUS software. So, kindly help me in finding the plastic properties and a damage model for timber, it would be very helpful to proceed in my current project.
Thanks and regards
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hi Nayak,
did you find a solution to your problem? i am also trying to define solid wood in abaqus cae. i have elastic data but plastic data and i can't find how to define this data in abaqus. I have limited time left for my master thesis. I need serious help from you and other friends.
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Are there investors on the forum?
The theory of the Genesis of earthquakes has been created.
Based on this theory, the main fields, the main forces involved in the development of earthquakes, are determined.
The participation of the same fields in the creation of anomalies and in the creation of the earthquake itself ensures 100% reliability. The low speed of the wave that creates an earthquake ensures high accuracy in determining the location, start and end time, and the strength of a future earthquake.
This makes it possible to save people's lives.
This makes it possible to receive high income by reducing the losses of countries in earthquakes.
This gives sustainable growth through the development of the Global Earthquake Prediction Network.
I did everything I could. No one will ever exceed the number of positive opinions I have received.
It's not because I'm a "genius".
This is because there is no point in creating a collection of positive conclusions. I had to do this because I worked alone.
The institutions of Israel hated me because I am a "Russian Jew" who dared to create a patent.
The Academy of Russia hates me because the Expert Council of the RAS itself recognized my results and recommended starting implementation.
And now what? Everything you need has been created.
People will die in hundreds of thousands because no one wants to implement?
INVESTORS, AU,
DIRECTOR, AU.
Do you want to do something important and useful?
I'm 76 and oncology. Who wants to become a leader and get the knowledge that I have accumulated in 20 years?
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Видимо, Вы не прочли "Генезис землетрясений" и краткосрочный прогноз землетрясений, и результаты официальных испытаний под контролем РЭС, МЧС и эксперта из США. Практические испытания подтвердили теорию. Она принята Председателем РЭС проф. А.В. Николаевым. (2012 - 2013). Доклад без заявлений оппонентов прошел на заседании совета РЭС 2015. И подтвержден Зам. Директора ИФЗ Проф. Рогожиным. Все документы зарегистрированы.
Патент на краткосрочный прогноз зарегистрирован.
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I will participate in a conference on the effects of earthquakes and my study on the economic effects of the earthquake on the Syrian economy. I hope that you will share with me information about the economic effects of the earthquake on the economic sectors.
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Good evening Dr Hasan,
This is a challenging question and the answer is likley to depend on the local, national and international circumstances preceeding and following the earthquake, as well as on the charcteristics of the earthquke, level of destructiion, casualties, etc. The more severe the eartqhuake it is likley to pose more severe challenges and potentially opportunities.
Probably a good start would be to explore case studies from past earthqaukes and attempt to extrapolate the lessons learned, especially in relation to examples that are probably most close in their circumstances to the one you want to explore.
One would assume that there would be initial direct and indirect lossess associated with the earthquake but equally one could expect that the earthquake could also boost in short to medium term the economy due to the reconstruction efforts, demand for materials, labour, etc. that in turn could boost the ecomonic output too. However, all these investments would have to be paid somehow and would lead to increased borrowing inside and outside the country. I belive that there have been instances where the country currancy had to be devaluated within few years of the earhquake but it is difficult to say if the earthquke was the primary cause or the event that tipped over the balance.
The affected area might become a magnet for employment due to the available opportunities. This may become unsustainable in a long term because at some point the reconstruction will wind down. This in turn may cause structural problems in the economy wiill oversupply of certain types of labour and business that would no longer be locally required. If the wider economy is unable to asborb this oversupply, it may result in unemployment, wage reductions and fearced competition for the few remaining jobs, with all of the associated pros and cons. A potential benefit could be associated with the upscaling of the local labour force if traininng programms are introduces in the post earthquake period that may have long term positive effects as these newely skilled cohort should be able to attract higher wages than before, etc.
The above are only suggestions about the possible effects of the earthquake that will have their effects on the economy.
With Best Wishes
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I need help modelling horizontal BNWF with axial, transverse, and vertical (bearing & uplift) springs and spring damper at the ends to simulate connectivity.
I want to know how I can model these on to the beam and assuming the pipeline segment is 1 kilometer in length, at what intervals should the soil springs be applied? Can we assign line springs in OpenSees?
Thank you
P.S I would like to validate my results through this paper "Seismic risk assessment of buried steel gas pipelines under seismic wave propagation based on fragility analysis - Vahid Jahangiri, Hamzeh Shakib" - DOI 10.1007/s10518-017-0260-1
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Hi
Here is one approach to model a horizontal beam on nonlinear Winkler foundation (BNWF) with axial, transverse, and vertical springs in OpenSees:
1. Discretize the 1 km long beam into elements (say 100 10m long elements).
2. Use an ElasticBeamColumn element for each beam segment.
3. Attach zeroLength elements to each node:
- zeroLength in local x-direction for axial soil springs
- zeroLength in local y-direction for transverse soil springs
- zeroLength in local z-direction for vertical springs
4. Use a Parallel material to combine the elastic behavior with a Bilin/Quad nonlinearity for each spring.
5. Apply spring properties like stiffness, yield strength, post-yield stiffness.
6. For damping, attach zeroLength elements with a ViscousDamper material at the ends.
7. Apply restraints and prescribed displacement to beam ends to simulate boundary conditions.
8. For load, apply point loads, prescribed displacements, or ground motion acceleration to the model.
The spacing of the soil springs depends on the desired discretization accuracy. A spacing of 5-10m would likely be reasonable for this length of beam.
This assembles a beam on springs system with nonlinear material models and damping to capture soil-pipeline interaction effects under dynamic loading. The zeroLength elements conveniently allow applying 1D spring-damper behavior between nodes.
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One of the scientists states: “It is not easy to predict an earthquake, and so far there has not been a single successful prediction in history, except for one Chinese researcher in the mid-70s.
I am giving a link to a collection of official documents of the world's experts and expert advice.
Those who can read Russian or English, I suggest that you read these documents carefully.
After that:
I ask the scientists of the world to inform: who else claims that the Genesis of earthquakes has not been discovered, that the short-term earthquake forecast has not been created and has not been tested?
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Ирина Самахова, корреспондент «Комсомольской правды
https://unionhome.ru › 2018/02 › irina-samahova
26 февр. 2018 г. — Cоветский и российский научный журналист из новосибирского Академгородка и общественный деятель, окончила факультет журналистики Ленинградского ...
Она ставит себя экспертом и "плечиком отпихнула" Николаева, Рогожина, Страшимира Мавродиева, и около десятка настоящих специалистов - официальных экспертов.
Так Россия уничтожает тех, кто не угоден РАН.
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Greetings from the world geophysics and seismology community I am searching to find a practical, and important topic for my Ph.D. thesis. Professors and those who view this post, if they are interested in doing joint international projects between the two countries, please share your topics and suggestions with me. I will write my favorite topics for you and if possible, I would like to know your opinions sincerely *Earthquake engineering and risk analysis **Application of seismology in oil exploration and extraction ***Data science and machine learning
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I became an outsider since 1995. I worked in hydrocarbon research for almost eight years. I created original models, I didn't publish them... I probably solved the prediction of certain 'type' earthquakes. Geological interpretation plays a role in these. I would be willing to contribute if I could personally participate in the testing of my idea.
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An Evolutionary Shaking‐Forecast‐Based Earthquake Early Warning Method.
You understand that the beginning of an earthquake report is an earthquake that has already occurred. This means people will die close to the epicenter, and there will be panic far away. In schools, children will panic and there will be dead.
You don't want to apply an accurate short-term earthquake forecast?
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Geophysicists, scientists... You are people.
You all have a conscience and logical thinking.
Do you want to have large earthquake victims in the epicentral zones?
For people to be alive, an accurate forward forecast with a certainty of about 100% is needed.
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Dear Professor Peng Chaoyong,
I ask you to inform: how many people died in this earthquake?
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Do you think that the classic short-term earthquake forecast is not needed, that only a message is needed that an earthquake has begun?
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Can we relate the earthquake and mushroom diversity or mycorrhizal diversity? If yes, How?
Thank you.
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Undoubtedly, the unique biotic communities of microorganisms are formed in the places of faults. This is dictated by the changing conditions of the living environment and the possibilities for the emergence of mutations.
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What would happen if the Earth's axis changed and which earthquake shifted Earth off its axis?
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Dr Paul Pukite thank you for your contribution to the discussion
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Who is responsible for earthquake in India and what happens if the Earth's rotation reversed?
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The earth's crust is divided into seven major plates, that are about 50 miles thick, which move slowly and continuously over the earth's interior and several minor plates. Earthquakes are tectonic in origin; that is the moving plates are responsible for the occurrence of violent shakes. Deserts would cover North America, arid sand dunes would replace expanses of the Amazon rainforest in South America, and lush, green landscapes would flourish from central Africa to the Middle East.
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Can an earthquake shifted the Earth's axis and how many times has the Earth's axis changed?
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The changes in Earth's rotation and figure axis caused by earthquakes should not have any impacts on our daily lives. "These changes in Earth's rotation are perfectly natural and happen all the time," he said. "People shouldn't worry about them. Additionally, how much Earth's axis is tilted towards or away from the Sun changes through time, over approximately 41,000 year cycles?
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I wonder when declustering a catalogue of earthquakes, does repeated event count as cluster or not. fo example when i am geting data from ISC, IRIS, and USGS for specific area considering time and magnitude, if I have an event with Mw=7.4 while making the catalogue in some chances maybe I get multiple events that have Mw=7.4 due to random institute data collection.
All in All for example I have multiple even with the same lat, lon, data, time, and magnitude but they are used to be one event. when declustering the catalogue does one event remains or all of them are counted as main events?
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When declustering a catalog of earthquakes, the goal is to identify and remove aftershocks or other events that are temporally and spatially related to a larger, main event. The treatment of repeated events with the same location, date, time, and magnitude can vary depending on the declustering method used and the specific criteria applied.
In most declustering algorithms, repeated events with identical attributes are typically considered as part of the same seismic sequence and are not counted as separate main events. Instead, they are treated as aftershocks or duplicates of the main event. These repeated events are typically identified based on their temporal proximity and spatial proximity to the main event.
When declustering, the main objective is to identify and isolate the largest, most significant event in a sequence, such as the mainshock. The subsequent events that occur within a certain time and spatial window after the mainshock are typically considered aftershocks and are removed from the catalog or assigned lower weights in subsequent analyses.
It's important to note that different declustering methods and algorithms may have slightly different criteria and rules for identifying aftershocks and determining their relationship to the main event. It's recommended to consult established declustering algorithms or seek expert advice in the field of seismic analysis to ensure proper handling of repeated events in your specific analysis.
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Dear All, I hope you can point me in the direction. I am interested in finding P-wave and S-wave velocities from earthquake data. However, I couldn't find any particular article or methodology explaining how I can get the P and S velocities from the Earthquake dataset. Looking forward to your suggestions...
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Physics does not provide an answer to your question.
You know the coordinates of the seismic station and the exact time of arrival of the seismic wave.
You can know the exact time of an earthquake. You can know the exact coordinates of the epicenter. You can even hope that you know the depth of the hypocenter.
Unfortunately, you cannot know the length of the path along which a seismic wave propagates, that is, the trajectory of a mechanical wave.
Unfortunately, you cannot know how the speed of a mechanical wave changes as it travels from the hypocenter to the seismic station. You understand that the speed of a seismic wave in a real geological environment is not a constant...
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Logical Algorithm for the operation of the tsunami warning system. First of all, the place and time of a strong sea earthquake is fixed and a decision is made that there is reason to worry about the formation of a tsunami. Secondly, anomalies in the measurement data of buoy stations of the DART system are studied (anomalies are selected automatically). If the station indicates that the wave height is significant, then an alarm is announced (usually the height of a tsunami in the ocean is up to 50 cm). Everything is simple and clear.
In fact, the DART system applies a different logic.
Let's look at the logic of DART after a strong earthquake in the Tonga region on May 10, 2023.
DART received information about a strong ocean earthquake. The picture is attached.
DART station #51425 (700 km from the epicenter) and a station in the Hawaiian Islands area automatically gave an alarm about unusual sea level fluctuations. They showed it on the official DART website. An anomaly 23 cm high was recorded at DART station No. 51425. I attached a general graph, its details. The table highlights the start time of the anomaly.
The text of the official announcement surprises. Quote: "EVALUATION - Based on the depth of the earthquake, a tsunami is not expected". The algorithm does not provide for the analysis of the depth of the earthquake, the depth of the ocean, tectonic features. This is an engineering, not a scientific system. Errors are not allowed here. Have you recorded a tsunami or not. There is no third.
The DART measurement system showed a “wave” 23 cm high, but gave no warning. This cannot be done. This will discredit the entire project.
In many of our scientific publications (for example, our book Volume 3. Previously unknown aspects of the formation of climate, weather, including natural hazards) and in discussions, I have pointed out the wrong decision-making procedure for declaring a tsunami alert.
Check out my discussions:
Tsunami waves and problems of early warning.
Why does everyone know that the physical model of tsunami generation is wrong, but they continue to use it and teach children?.
Is it possible to consider a tsunami wave as a Rayleigh wave?
What type of wave does the Deep-ocean Assessment and Reporting of Tsunamis (DART®) mistake for a tsunami?
DART gives false tsunami alerts to the public. What reason?
These discussions talk about the many erroneous decisions made to evacuate the population based on the results of DART. This resulted in large economic losses. But the most important thing is the discrediting of the most modern and expensive system of automatic fixation and early warning of the approach of a tsunami. The humanitarian mission of this system is enormous, given the casualties that usually accompany the arrival of a tsunami on the coast, especially in areas of active tourism business. It turned out that the reason for the unsuccessful organization of the global tsunami warning system was an elementary misunderstanding of both the physical nature of the tsunami and the simple, actually well-known, patterns of its propagation.
Look at the timing of the Tonga earthquake and the timing of the anomaly recorded by DART #51425. A tsunami wave cannot cover a distance of 700 km in 165 seconds. The tsunami speed is about 0.2 km/s, not 4,200 km/s.
It turns out that the nature of the measured anomaly at DART station No. 51425 is not a tsunami. Judging by the propagation speed, the recorded anomaly is the fluctuations of the seabed during the passage of the Rayleigh seismic wave.
Can the automatic sea level recorder (DART) distinguish between sea level changes associated with the passage of tsunami waves and sea floor oscillations during the passage of a seismic Rayleigh wave? The answer is it can't.
If the stations do not allow this, then in the DART tsunami warning centers this can be done simply by changing the decision-making algorithm. If the time of fixing the ocean level anomaly by the DART station coincides in time with the expected time of the tsunami approach from the earthquake epicenter, an alarm is announced. This is right?
DART doesn't know about it.
I will repeat the simple algorithm once again. There are approximately 700 km between the epicenter of the earthquake and DART station No. 51425. The wave came in 165 seconds, that is, at a speed of 4.2 km/s. During this time, the tsunami wave travels only 33 km (velocity 200 m/s). It is easy to understand that the recorded anomaly is the vibrations of the seabed during the passage of the Rayleigh seismic wave. There is no need to pay attention to this anomaly. With the coordinates of this earthquake at DART station No. 51425, you need to start evaluating the data no earlier than 45 minutes later.
It's elementary simple, but DART doesn't understand us?
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Thanks,
In connection to arissen probleme by you give my opinion in private... The question was asked for a basic reason... I would like to discuss same in case of last case too:
M 7.7 - SOUTHEAST OF LOYALTY ISLANDS - 2023-05-19 02:57:05 UTC
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What is the right way to scale and use earthquake acceleration records (in form of spectral acceleration in first mode period) in time history analysis for 3D models? Is it ok to use max scale factors in two directions or should use the SRSS method?
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I can try to help you with your question, but please note that I'm not an engineer or an expert in earthquake acceleration.
Earthquake acceleration is a measure of how fast the ground is shaking during an earthquake. It can be expressed in terms of spectral acceleration, which is the maximum acceleration that a structure with a given natural frequency would experience during an earthquake.
To use earthquake acceleration records in time history analysis for 3D models, you need to consider the direction and magnitude of the ground motion. According to ³, ground acceleration is measured in three directions: vertically and two perpendicular horizontal directions. The peak acceleration in each of these directions is recorded, with the highest individual value often reported.
There are different methods to scale and combine the acceleration records from different directions for 3D models. One method is to use the maximum scale factors in two horizontal directions and apply them to the vertical direction as well ¹. Another method is to use the square root of sum of squares (SRSS) method, which combines the acceleration records from different directions by taking the square root of their squared sums ². The choice of method may depend on the characteristics of the structure and the earthquake scenario.
I hope this helps a bit. You may want to consult more specialized sources or experts for more details and guidance on how to use earthquake acceleration records in 3D models.
(1) Peak ground acceleration - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_ground_acceleration.
(2) OpenQuake Map Viewer - Global Seismic Hazard Map - GEM Foundation. https://maps.openquake.org/map/global-seismic-hazard-map/.
(3) ShakeMap - USGS Earthquake Hazards Program. https://earthquake.usgs.gov/data/shakemap/.
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Dear seismologists and residents of Turkey.
I suppose you want to know in advance (a few hours in advance): when you need to go to a safe place so as not to get hurt in case of an earthquake.
Only my method gives a sufficient lead, and only it has successfully passed the test.
If you need help let me know. We cannot stop the earthquake, but we can use the equipment and knowledge so that people do not die.
Write if you have questions or suggestions.
Sincerely.
Alexander Yagodin.
You can see how the anomaly was registered on my equipment in Haifa with a lead of 7 - 10 hours before the start of the aftershocks in Turkey.
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АНКАРА, 10 мая - РИА Новости. Жители турецкой Коньи в панике вышли на улицы после землетрясения магнитудой 4,2 балла в среду утром в регионе, некоторым была оказана медицинская помощь, пишет газета Yeni Şafak.
So that there is no panic, the state needs a reliable earthquake forecast system.
I can do it.
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I am searching time history data for turkey earthquake 2023. If anyone have any reference, kindly share.
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Thank you. I got the ground motions.
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Не так давно умерли Председатель Российского экспертного совета:
проф. А.В. Николаев и проф.Е.А. Рогожин, бывший и Председателем Экспертного совета России и Зам. директором РАН и председателем комиссий конференций...
В КНИГЕ ПАМЯТИ те, кто с ними работал пишут об уважении к ним, о том, что они были лидерами, экспертами. Честными, строгими.
Так почему сразу после их смерти их работу сваливают "в грязь", пытаются заткнуть автора?
Все знают, что научное заключение Генезиса землетрясений, данное РЭС положительное. Нет ни одной проработки этапов и действующих сил, чтоб все было логично и подтверждалось и теорией (скорость волны Козырева-Ягодина рассчитывается теоретически из движений Земли, Луны, Солнца) и скорость волны дает время прохода волны от станции до места, где произойдет землетрясение.
РУБЕН ЭДУАРДОВИЧ ТАТЕВОСЯН - Заместитель директора ИФЗ РАН непрерывно в своих выступлениях на публику повторяет, что "не существует точного классического краткосрочного прогноза землетрясений". Вы читали протокол РЭС по экспертизе работы Александра Ягодина (Председатель проф. А.В. Николаев).
Вы читали заключение по результатам испытаний !!!! Вы понимаете, что такое испытания и что означает заключение РЭС? Или Вы со смертью последних честных ученых уничтожили и то, что было "сделано до вас"?
ВАМ САМИМ НЕ СТЫДНО ЗА ИНСТИТУТ, ЗА СТРАНУ?
Вы заявляете ложь россиянам. Вы готовы убить людей в землетрясении, но скрыть то, что сделал А.Ягодин, поддержал Страшимир Мавродиев, проверили и подтвердили Николаев и Рогожин.
Вы эту ложь пишете и Президенту России, пользуясь тем, что Генеральный прокурор занят другими проблемами?
Интересно, все так лгут в РАН? Ни один человек не заявил правду, которую приняли на заседании РЭС 2015 года?
Not so long ago, the Chairman of the Russian Expert Council died:
prof. A.V. Nikolaev and prof.E.A. Rogozhin, former Chairman of the Expert Council of Russia and Deputy. director of the Russian Academy of Sciences and chairman of the conference committees ...
In the BOOK OF MEMORY, those who worked with them write about respect for them, that they were leaders, experts. Honest, strict.
So why, immediately after their death, their work is dumped "in the mud", trying to shut up the author?
Everyone knows that the scientific conclusion of the Genesis of earthquakes given by the RES is positive. There is not a single study of the stages and acting forces, so that everything is logical and confirmed by theory (the speed of the Kozyrev-Yagodin wave is calculated theoretically from the movements of the Earth, Moon, Sun) and the wave speed gives the time it takes the wave to travel from the station to the place where an earthquake occurs.
RUBEN EDUARDOVICH TATEVOSYAN - The Deputy Director of IPE RAS constantly repeats in his speeches to the public that "there is no accurate classical short-term earthquake forecast". You have read the protocol of the RES on the examination of the work of Alexander Yagodin (Chairman Prof. A.V. Nikolaev).
Have you read the conclusion of the test results !!!! Do you understand what tests are and what the conclusion of the RES means? Or, with the death of the last honest scientists, did you destroy what was "done before you"?
ARE YOU NOT SHAMED FOR THE INSTITUTE, FOR THE COUNTRY?
You are telling lies to the Russians. You are ready to kill people in an earthquake, but to hide what A. Yagodin did, supported by Strashimir Mavrodiyev, checked and confirmed by Nikolaev and Rogozhin.
Are you writing these lies to the President of Russia, taking advantage of the fact that the Prosecutor General is busy with other problems?
I wonder if everyone lies like that in the RAS? Not a single person stated the truth that was accepted at the REC meeting in 2015?
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Dear Alexandr,
Why don't you contact the geophysicists of SPEC.
Sincerely, László
Уважаемый Александр!
Почему бы вам не обратиться к геофизикам SPEC.
Искренне, Ласло
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In my monograph "Interaction in the lithosphere-hydrosphere system" a review of scientific articles on the topic of using the energy of earthquake preparation for the formation of cyclones was reviewed. This topic was studied in most detail in my article "Influence of the gas component of the fluid regime of the lithosphere in the water area on atmospheric processes". The article shows that the hydrogen and methane released from the lithosphere before an earthquake and the oxidation energy are sufficient to form a local cyclone.
I have proved that changes in the gravitational field are also able to form a local cyclone. Slide from the discussion "Is it possible to see how rapidly the Earth's gravitational field is changing by looking at how clouds move (with their help and without GRACE)?" attached.
In the discussion "The earthquake in Turkey is a consequence of planetary scale geodeformations. Is the concept of stress accumulation before an earthquake wrong?" I have shown the coincidence of the pleistoseist zone of the Turkish earthquake with the atmospheric pressure anomaly. Such an anomaly arises with an increase in air temperature and with a local decrease in gravity. Attached are the maps from the discussion.
Let's discuss some synoptic maps over the epicenter of the Turkish earthquake.
In my opinion, the rate of atmospheric pressure change over the epicenter is extremely (anomalously) high. 02/02/023 - 1005 hPa, 02/03/23 - 1025 hPa, 02/06/23 - 999 hPa. This is not typical for the physics of the atmosphere.
I ask you to take part in the discussion of weather forecasters.
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This is a very logic, interesting and very usefull research. Iam physical geographier, primary geomorphologist especially morfotectonic deserve my interest. For example in my country Bosnia nad Herzegovinia, in structral-facial megaunit Dinarides (geologicaly) or Dinaric mountain system (geomorphologicaly), existed fault "Iliđža- Busovača"( part of fault system Sarajevo-Jajce) with two spas -Iliđža spa and Kiseljak spa. The mentioned fault trace long about 45 km with the occurrences of thermal and mineral waters (possible gasses). Numerous springs, such as the one on Ilidža with a temperature of 57 Celsius, bitter sulphurous, medicinal water. Spa Kiseljak with mineral water, etc.
Therefore, faults play a very important role in the flow of fluids from the interior of the Earth, both gases and thermal mineral waters. Of course, I fully support my colleague that the increased influx of gases can affect local atmospheric dynamics and energetics and thereby predict an earthquake.
Meteorologicaly"Island depression" above land of Iceland whom he cuts active fault system of the litospheric tectonic border of Northamerican megaplatte and Euroasian megaplatte is a logical. Its neotectonicaly active fault system with the occurrences of the active volcanoes and post vulcano activities, active geysers etc..) .
On time more My support in your researching valuabling for human race.
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The question is what are the final goals of doing spectral analysis and what can we infer from that?
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Dear Mr. Khalil Bakhtiari Asl,
If your spectrum was received by recording any earthquake at the ground level, then by doing Fourier spectrum analysis you can clearly understand which frequencies are prevailing in the ground motion of this earthquake. This is very important as having the values of the prevailing frequencies you will have a possibility to design your structure you are going to build so, that it will avoid resonance effect.
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Is it from the fault that the earthquake arises or is it from the earthquake that the fault arises?
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This is not like the egg and the hen dilemma! The cause-effect relationship is terribly clear between fault and earthquake, although the ENGLISH LITERATURE has made a mess of this!!!!
The earthquake is no more than energy transmitted across the Earth as waves (of several types). If you recall the theory of the elastic rebound by Reid (1910), these waves are liberated or produced when the internal friction of a fault plane (surface) is surpassed by the accumulated long term deformation imposed by regional plate tectonics or stress field on a fault. So, it is WRONG to say that an earthquake of a given magnitude produced a (surface) rupture of a certain length or rupture area. In fact, the rupture of a fault plane area of a certain size generates a set of waves named EARTHQUAKE.
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Dear all,
Turkey has been hit by several major earthquakes. Thousands of people died, millions lost their dearest and their homes. Turkey is trying to recover from both the figurative and real ruins. What would you suggest to do, both to academics and students affected by these earthquakes, to utilize academic studies to recover from these disasters? Thank you very much in advance.
Best wishes
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Hi Murat, it's an unspeakable catastrophe for those affected and I don't want to pretend to have solutions. You pose a very good question, though, and a couple of humble ideas that spring to mind with regards to English studies are 1) strengthening inclusivity and participation to play a role in the economic recovery of affected areas and 2) employing approaches such as ecocriticism and trauma studies to help deal with the experience and the aftermath (as a fellow Shakespearean, you will probably know about some of the work that's been done on Shakespeare, performance, and mental health)
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The sorting out of the devastating earthquake has catastrophic economic, social and political effects on the Syrian economy and society, which is already suffering from a devastating war for more than 12 years. All of this creates new economic and social behaviors and practices, represented in dependence on aid, theft of aid, trading in aid, chronic unemployment, and runaway inflation. All of the above will produce a new Syrian political economy, I think. The question is, can this case not be called the political economy of the earthquake?
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yes, earthquakes damages infrastructure and as such the process of rehabilitating and rebuilding requires economic intervention.
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I am new to this research field. can anyone please tell me what is the most recent research which is currently emerging in this field?
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Thanks for your reply. Thank you for the data!
From it, it is clear that you have something to work with. This shows something else you write about, and you know exactly what I mean.
'These are waves with periods of 12, 24 hours and 14 days. '
'06 UTC min (-13 cm), 10 UTC max (0 cm), 16 UTC min (-14 cm), 22 max ( 22 cm).'[this should have been extended either the day before or the day after]
You have another value of max around pm.10 05.02.2023. or 07.02.2023 which does not correspond to 24 (12) hours, as the period is about 2-5% different.. This 2-5 % is not a negligible factor.
Real data refute what you wrote: and it is therefore unfortunate to make such generalisations! (if we do, it is worth noting that the reality is different)
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Deformation waves not associated with earthquakes continuously pass over the surface of the Earth. These are waves with periods of 12, 24 hours and 14 days. Long waves are imperceptible to people, although they have an amplitude 10 times greater than seismic waves. In areas with a thin earth's crust, they usually do not provoke earthquakes (I do not consider mantle earthquakes). If the earth's crust is not subject to geodeformations, then they destroy it. After an earthquake, waves of geodeformation can provoke the collapse of buildings (before the earthquake, these territories were not deformed).
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I will quote information from my other discussion.
The earthquake in Turkey occurred on the date of the tide syzygy in the solid body of the Earth on February 6, 2023. On the dates of syzygy, the amplitude of geodeformations increases by no less than 20%. The first destructive earthquake occurred at 01:17 (M=7.8), the second at 10:24 (M=6.7). At this time, at the earthquake epicenter, the amplitude of the diurnal and semidiurnal tides in the solid body of the Earth reached positive extremes. In addition, due to the 14-day zonal tide in the solid body of the Earth, the conditions of stretching and compression of the Earth's crust were formed on the surface of the planet. The zonal tide in the solid body of the Earth is associated with the extrema of the angular velocity of the Earth's rotation. The data is available only for February 3. Attached the chart https://hpiers.obspm.fr/ . Stretch conditions on February 3 and February 10, 2023. On February 3, in accordance, rapid changes in the Earth's gravitational field on a planetary scale were recorded. Changes in the gravitational field recorded by our method, see satellite images https://meteologix.com/. Between the expansion phases, the compression phase is fixed. The compression occurred on February 6, 2023 and triggered an earthquake https://zn.ua/img/forall/u/14/8/photo_2023-02-06_15.16_.16_.jpeg . These are the facts of the formation of compression deformations on March 6. The scale is planetary.
Planetary-scale deformations (amplitude 30 cm) were blocked on February 6 in the epicentral zone of the future earthquake. The blocking of tidal waves in the solid body of the Earth is associated with the release of heat. In the atmosphere, the release of heat leads to a decrease in atmospheric pressure. Warm air weighs less. Look at the color map of atmospheric pressure and low pressure above the epicenter at the moment of maximum compression (map from Twitter https://twitter.com/BookofCrusty/status/1622643773900464128?t=Yy-KLEZn-FDuHvyIHh1y5w&s=09 ). The relapse occurred on February 20, 2023 after 14 days during the next cycle of the positive extremum of the angular velocity of the Earth's rotation associated with the repetition of the phase of the zonal tide in the solid body of the Earth.
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Thanks for your reply. Thank you for the data!
From it, it is clear that you have something to work with. This shows something else you write about, and you know exactly what I mean.
'These are waves with periods of 12, 24 hours and 14 days. '
'06 UTC min (-13 cm), 10 UTC max (0 cm), 16 UTC min (-14 cm), 22 max ( 22 cm).'[this should have been extended either the day before or the day after]
You have another value of max around pm.10 05.02.2023. or 07.02.2023 which does not correspond to 24 (12) hours, as the period is about 2-5% different.. This 2-5 % is not a negligible factor.
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A 10 X 10 three-story precast building with a floor area of 100 m2 with 30 cm thick concrete walls in a large earthquake with an acceleration of 1.5g has some overturning moment tendency.
Wanted 1. how much does the precast weigh
2.the inertia and shear base created at the 1.5g acceleration
3. plus the magnitude of the overturning moment of the entire building.
The building weighs 340 tons
Payload is 80kg/m2 = 24 tons
The floors another 24 tons
The building finally weighs 340+24+24= 388 tons without the base.
Inertia and base intercept = mass X acceleration = 388 ton X 1.5g = 582 tons
Overturning moment = height X inertia = the first floor is 3 m high the second 6 and the third 9 total 3+6+9 = 18m
Each of the three floors has an inertia of 582/3 = 194 tons
18mX194ton = 3492 ton overturning moment
But the precast as a rigid structure has a double lever arm, that of the height and that of the width.
So we divide the torque of 3492 tons by the width of the building which is 10 meters 3492/10 = 349 tons.
Every single anchor I have can withstand 100 tons of torque at two meters depth.
If we place 8 anchors around the perimeter, we will not have any loss of support from the ground due to the total withdrawal of the area of the base of the building, so no damage in the earthquake of 1.5g acceleration.
A 300 sq.m pre-fab house costs 310,000 euros finished today + 30,000 the eight anchors = 340,000 euros and you have the most earthquake-proof house in the world.
A conventional house today costs 2,000 euros per sq.m when finished, 300 sq.m costs 600,000 euros.
Choose.
My proposal for anti-seismic constructions is to prestress the sides of the reinforced concrete walls as well as to compact them with the foundation soil at the same time.
Prestressing + compaction on the sides of the walls Prestressing (generally compression) on the sidewalls has very positive effects, as it improves the oblique tensile trajectories. On the other hand you also have the other good thing... the non-shear failure of the cover concrete due to the high tensile strength of the steel, the reduced cracking and the increase in the elastic and dynamic displacement area due to compression, which increases the effective cross-section and stiffness of the structure, and most importantly increases the response of the cross-section to the intersecting base. If prestressing is combined with compaction in the soil then we divert the seismic loads into the soil, prevent the moments at the nodes, control the eigenperiod and ensure soil samples and a strong foundation.
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The response to your question:
How we increase the seismic resistance of buildings by reducing costs? is simply.
They will talk to both of us and we will solve it.
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Dear Respected Patron!
Now a days, its a burning question of the creations that "How to predetermine the Earthquake Signal?" So that, the early precaution may take measure to mitigate huge demolition and vulnerable lose of life.
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It is not easy to forecast or predict an earthquake and till now there has been no successful prediction in history except one from a Chinese researcher in the mid-70s. But for the last few weeks, people have been expecting that planetary alignments are indicators of seismic events. So being an earthquake researcher I think it is quite difficult to highlight the exact area of the upcoming seismic events with the help of this technique. I need opinions from the scientific community on this topic.
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The answer to your question is clearly no! If such an event occurs, it is a coincidence...
I say this because I have made several successful earthquake predictions...
the last one happen ten days ago:
So my view is that it is possible to predict crustal earthquakes...
All you need is the right will to predict an earthquake...It's been five years since I woke up to some of my natural principles that enabled me to predict earthquakes.
But no one cared. I did not predict the Turkey earthquake 02.06.2023, because I want to finish paper about the graviton.
I have a forecast for China, but for this, my expectations would have to be met... I am not thinking about financial conditions now.
I have neither the tools nor the existential conditions (hence the time) to properly prepare the conditions that are required.
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Laszlo,
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Earthquakes are now causing fear and unstability in most iraqi and jordanion citizens who live in big building ,How can we secure building and check the standards of constructions?
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1) An Appropriate Foundation. Creating a flexible foundation for a building could help it stay standing during an earthquake.
2) Seismic Dampers. Earthquake-resistant buildings also need features to help absorb shocks.
3) A Drainage Mechanism.
4) Structural Reinforcement.
5) Material With Adequate Ductility.
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Psychological impact of earthquake-related stress can sometimes be detrimental. Suicidal tendency, depression, anxiety and post-traumatic stress (PTSD) are some of the effects resulting from earthquake-related stress. How can governments and individuals help deal with earthquake related stress?
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Health care workers, whether professional, para-professional or lay persons, are typically trained in various group and individual methods of managing post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Community psychology studies show that genuinely caring neighbors can be as effective in managing and healing PTSD, assisting survivors to work through their trauma in less stressful contexts, while providing physical resources such as shelter, food, water. Trauma counselling essentially facilitates traumatized persons re-experiencing their traumas at the same level as the original emotional intensity, noting and reinforcing health anchors, and re-integrating feelings and cognitions, in resiliently adaptive ways.
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The recent earthquake in Turkey and neighboring countries.
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In connection with the question can remember about next factors:
1. It is known about the reflection of electromagnetic radiation (ER) from the ionosphere. The high frequencies of the ER are absorbed and the low frequencies of the ER are reflected.
2. The purpose of the HAARP project was to study the interaction of the ionosphere with powerful ER.
3. HAARP and similar systems use highly directional transmitting antennas, usually phased array antennas, capable of focusing almost all of the radiated energy into a narrow beam and therefore into a small area of space.
4. It is known about the effect of ER on deformation processes in the Earth crust. An assumption was put forward about the trigger mechanism of the effect of ER on seismicity.
5. There are facts of strengthening the seismic regime under the influence of a magnetohydrodynamic generator (MHD generator).
6. There were statements of a political nature about the evacuation of the diplomatic embassies of Western countries before the earthquake itself on February 6, 2023 in Turkey.
7. There are other stations capable of influencing the Earth's ionosphere.
Therefore, the technogenic impact of such ER systems on seismicity cannot be ruled out.
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I am looking for information on the latest earthquake in Turkey. Can anyone help me find accurate and up-to-date records or data for the event? I have searched the PEER website but I couldn't find any appropriate information. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
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In Türkiye, we live the earthquake with all its pain. It's like an apocalypse for us and it still continues to hurt us. But together we will overcome this disaster as we always have been together.
You can get some photographic information from the links below, my friend.
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Can we propose newer seismic provisions for designing a building along a faultline of tectonic plates? Is it possible to safeguard the occupants of such earthquake occured recently in Turkey of magnitude 7.8 richter?
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In Google Scholar and Google do a search using the words safeguard, retrofit, fault-lines and 7 richter for homes and commercial building design. Add specific areas that you know to sit on or near fault-lines. I'm in the US. The entire south west coast sits on fault-line. Look for building standards for the city of San Francisco, in the state of California. They continue build and rebuild the city due to severe earthquakes using the latest building ideas.
These three links will offer ideas;---- AIA article; “As earthquake frequency increases, architects stress the need to strengthen codes and preparedness measures”. Link is https://www.aia.org/articles/6200375-as-earthquake-frequency-increases-architec:56 FEMA “Risk Management Series Designing For Earthquakes https://www.wbdg.org/FFC/DHS/fema454.pdf FEMA, “Earthquake-Resistant Design Concepts https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/2020-07/fema_earthquake-resistant-design-concepts_p-749.pdf
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EEWS - a method of scammers to spend the budget without benefiting people?
EEWS and its "modifications" start from the moment that "there was an earthquake". (Method "p" - "S" is its analog, only other waves of ALREADY OCCURRED EARTHQUAKES are taken).
Several times I exhibited these methods that do not warn about the time, place, or strength of a future earthquake, and I asked scientists to show all the good and useful things that are in these methods.
No expert has claimed the beneficial properties of these methods.
Maybe then it is necessary to declare that only scammers use this method.
After all, what is spent on these senseless methods could be used for the benefit of people. Approximately the same was said at a meeting of the Commission of the Israeli Knesset in 2005.
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Интересно:
Геофизики боятся признать очевидный факт?
Или все согласны, что это мошенничество?
Interesting:
Are geophysicists afraid to admit the obvious fact?
Or does everyone agree that this is a scam?
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Appeal to geophysicists and leadership of Turkey.
Greetings to you, colleagues. It's a tough time, I sympathize with you.
Moreover, I saw the anomalies of these two earthquakes ten hours before the start of the shocks.
For an accurate forecast, you need to have a network of five stations or more.
If you and your government want to create a working group that will supply equipment to seismic stations (for about 10 stations), then I am ready to give you advice on the interpretation of the Kozyrev-Yagodin wave, forecasting with high accuracy. I was offered this in a laboratory in Russia, but my children are in Israel and Turkey and I must, first of all, protect their lives.
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It's very good observation results.
Would you like to write more about your observation and your plan?
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On 6 February 2023, an earthquake of Magnitude 7.8 struck southern and central Turkey and western Syria. Two major aftershocks of 6.7 and 7.5 Magnitude soon followed. Thousands of people have lost their lives and the death toll seems to be increasing rapidly. Although the earthquake occurred in a highly seismically vulnerable region, the footages from the disaster-stricken area show a high number of building collapses.
What could be the reason for such building collapses (based on preliminary information)?
Can it be attributed to flaws in building design? or problems in design implementation? or lack of routine maintenance? or a higher degree of ground acceleration than anticipated? or any other reasons?
Some possible general explanations can be found at:
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Can anyone provide the source of relevant ground motions?
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Hello good time To design a seismic isolator for bridges according to the Ashto code, we design a seismic isolator for a design earthquake (1000-year return period) and there are examples of this in the Ashto guide. If the goal of designing a seismic isolator is for MCE earthquake, what should we do? Unfortunately, I still haven't found the solution and method.
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Zhe QU's information is as follows,
Zhe Qu
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  • Professor (Full) at China Earthquake Administration Beijing, China
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I am from India and i have to analyze a building for zone V using non linear time history analysis and suppose that i have raw ground motion data for zone V (past earthquake that occurred in India) , So do we need to do scaling for the raw ground motion data or not from the response spectra given in the code book
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Each area needs an approach based on its location. Seismic zoning of territories is necessary. In this case, it is required that the scales be taken into account separately.
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We all the time talking about the negative effects of EQs on the natural and artificial environments, is there any importance together with its destructions?
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The good Earth has no choice. It has to stabilize itself by restructuring from all its disconformities, which are the product of plate tectonics, to conformities once in a while. Living things thriving on its surface are responsible to protect themselves in times of natural chaos like earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc.
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I am looking for recorded earthquake rotational time history (ground motion) data; both torsional and rocking. Is there any database to procure these data ?
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The rotational components of the earthquake can be calculated from the transitional components.
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I have some .SAC data showing the earthquake wave form but in their header magnitudes are not mentioned. The question is that how can I determine the magnitudes from .SAC files?
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Hello.
Thank you very much for your help, I appreciate it. With the descriptions you wrote, I completely know what steps I should take.
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please suggest me a software used for the orthogonal regression.
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My software does something that looks a bit like "orthogonal" regression, but I think it is better. You are free to try it for 25 days. Let me know if you need assistance.
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Major earthquake events can cause ground deformation which can be detectable by GNSS. After a large event, GNSS data can even be used to improve moment magnitude estimations.
For smaller magnitude events, I was wondering what would be the threshold for magnitude/distance from the earthquake source that we can detect the earthquake's coseismic (+postseismic signal) signature on the GNSS time series.
On Nevada Geodetic Laboratory website (http://geodesy.unr.edu/NGLStationPages/stations/LEMN.sta), I saw this formula: "10^(M/2 - 0.79)", we input magnitude (M) to obtain distance value (km). If the distance between the GNSS station and the earthquake epicenter is less than the value we obtained from the formula, it is possible to see a step record on the GNSS time series.
I would really appreciate it if someone could recommend some papers related to this topic.
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Here is an article:
Perhaps onto base of formula used by article writer you can create a formula useful for you... same see the critics of the forecasting method:
You really have to pay attention to the geological structure of the zone... as is written in the article
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Laszlo
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How to cut the real accelerogram earthquake record at some time interval to ensure that the maximum effect of the complete earthquake record is achieved by cutting the record up to some extent?
Is there any criteria or guideline to cut the record based on... i.e. Ground motion intensity, Energy etc.. Or any other ?
My FE model is very large and need to perform the seismic analysis using cutted earthquake record.
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Dear Mr. Muhammad Farhan,
First of all you must get Fourier Spectra from your real accelerogram and understand how close is the value of the predominant period of your earthquake record to the value of the vibration period of your building under consideration.
Then it will be easy to understand which part of the selected accelerogram you must keep for your analysis and which part you can cut/disregard. Applying the part of accelerogram that gives you predominant period closest to the vibration period of your building will give the best results.
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Mikayel Melkumyan
Doctor of Sciences (Engineering), Professor
Academician of the Saint-Petersburg Arctic Academy of Sciences
Academician of the Athens Institute for Education and Research
President of the Armenian Association for Earthquake Engineering
Vice-President of the International Association of CIS Countries on Base Isolation
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Foreign member of the Research Center of Seismic Resistant Structures of the Institute of Industrial Science, University of Tokyo
Eminent Expert of the Committee of Eminent Experts in International Research Base of Seismic Mitigation and Isolation of Gansu Province in China
Founder of the "Save the Yerevan Schools From Earthquakes" foundation
Director of the "Melkumyan Seismic Technologies" LLC
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I greet you, dear colleagues.
I live in Haifa and the officials did not allow me to participate in the short-term earthquake forecast project competition, despite the fact that I was supported by professors from one of the universities in Israel. The chairman of the commission and his consultant were deceived into denying the competition and gave 33 million shekels to "systems that report that an earthquake has already begun."
You can get acquainted with my methodology and the discovery of the genesis of earthquakes. My work received positive opinions from official scientific experts and was successfully tested on real earthquake forecasts in real conditions under the control of individual experts and an official expert: the Russian Expert Council.
Initially, the Chairman of the REC prof. A.V. Nikolaev, then the Chairman of the RES; the Deputy Director of the IPE RAS for Science prof. E.A. Rogojin, confirmed with positive conclusions the successful tests of real forecasting by the monitoring method of the Kozyrev-Yagodin wave (KaY-wave).
In the conclusion of the examination, it is stated that the tested methodology and system is recommended as the basis for building an international network of short-term forecasts: place, time, strength of a future earthquake with a certainty of about 100% tens of hours before the start of the tremors and indicating when the tremors will end. The forecast resolution between adjacent shocks is about an hour.
I am already 75+ and therefore I want to create a Center from which to build a network and to whom I will transfer the main part of the patent and my knowledge accumulated over 20 years of work.
This may be an association of state institutions or institutions, as well as the inclusion of private investors and specialists. It can be specialists from any state of any religion, any government system.
Sincerely.
Alexander Yagodin.
I enclose some of the expertises that I sended the Chief Scientist of the Israeli Ministry of Defense and after that I was invited to the 2017 Knesset Commission meeting.
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... There is another option: The scientist gives a forecast, but the earthquake does not happen. People were evacuated, Businesses and transport were stopped, and infrastructure and factories were stopped. The region is large: radius 50 - 100 km. The loss of the state is in the billions. The next earthquake forecast will not be accepted and there will be huge casualties.
Example: The Haicheng earthquake of magnitude M7.3 occurred on February 4, 1975, at 19:36 local time in Haicheng City County, Liaoning Province, China. A large number of victims have avoided thanks to the local authorities, who announced the evacuation the day before the earthquake. In fact, they found a good method and my work actually continues the work of the Chinese.
However, after this earthquake, an erroneous forecast was given and work on this topic was banned...
The Tangshan earthquake occurred in the Chinese city of Tangshan (Hebei Province) on July 28, 1976. An earthquake of magnitude 8.2 on the Richter scale. According to official figures from the Chinese authorities, the death toll was 242,419 people.
Therefore, I first made sure that my method gives a reliability of about 100%, gives the place, time and magnitude of the future earthquake. After that, I immediately (2004) declared to the Minister of Science of Israel and the Expert of the Institute of Geology - confirmed the results. In 2012, the Russian Expert Council (RES) tested on real earthquake forecasts in real conditions, and only because out of 20 earthquake forecasts with a magnitude of more than 6, all 20 were correctly predicted, the RES recommended using my equipment and methodology to build a network short term forecast. And only in 2015 they accepted the transition of the method from research to the implementation of R&D.
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I declare that the methodology for short-term forecasting has been created, and successfully passed tests and official examinations. This technique and system will reliably save people's lives in the event of an earthquake. The method was patented and published in 2008. The scientific article of the foundation was published at the conference in 2011 and presented to all experts in Russia and international experts in 2015. You can see the minutes of the meeting.
Many seismologists of the world pretend that this does not exist and sell the people ersatz, which will not only continue to kill people with an earthquake but also kill children with panic in schools.
I challenge such "scientists" to debate. I declare that they use their position as leaders to get millions from the budget without real competition. For example, in Israel, received 33 million shekels in this way, but their method and system (EEWS) will not save people's lives. The "creators" of the method at the meeting of the Knesset Commission did not want to declare that they are responsible for the results of their "labor".
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The events happened a long time ago!
What happened in the intervening time?
Three or four years ago, I discovered the phenomenon that plays a role in the development of the event! And since then, my views on earthquakes have been evolving daily. They become be better.
There, in nature is no such thing as Kay wave, seismic gravity wave!
What is a gravitational seismic wave?
What is gravity?
What is the gravitaton?
I said earthquakes happen every day ... Do an Earthquake forecast in China ... It's hard there. Easiest in Indonesia and around the Tonga Trench
Regards,
Laszló
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What to believe? Implement something new?
Transforming Earthquake Early Warning SFDRR Strategy Into New Beneficiary Actions
Or implement what scammers get money for?
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Yes : implement what scammers get money for.
It will be not for the first time...😪
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Geophysicists and the Government of Italy, I propose to contact me urgently.
You all know that a geophysicist has no right to make a forecast for the public.
I now have only one L-wave sensor and it is installed in the house, there is no protection against technical noise, therefore I have no right to give any forecasts and I cannot give 100% certainty.
However, if you are expecting a high-loss earthquake, please contact me immediately. I am ready to receive your representatives in Haifa, conclude an agreement and show how the sensor is made, set up communication with seismic stations in Italy, and possibly in the Vrancea zone. This will allow you to get accurate forecasting ten hours before the start of an earthquake in your area. We see that after the earthquake, surface waves continue to fluctuate and we see a serious earthquake on the opposite side of the planet (Fiji). This is not a harbinger, but it indicates an increase in the planet's seismic activity.
Sincerely. Alexandr Yagodin.
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We found a lot of documents in Tappe Sialk Kashan that occurred an earthquake which after that architecture developed and became better than before
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Hi,
Since the vast majority of buildings was made with earth material (adobe...), those building was easy to rebuilt after destruction. For stone architecture, it is well known that metallic clamps was used by the Greeks for earthquake: https://learnmore.ancienttemple.ysma.gr/constructing-the-temple/?lang=en
Here is an analysis of the metallic joints for the Acropolis:
"Ancient architects-engineers were aware of the seismicity of the Hellenic region and hadfound solutions to minimize their effect on the constructions. This has been accomplished byinserting steel clamps between marble blocks (Figure 1) and filling the void between themetal and the marble with molten lead metal, in order to secure the embodiment of the clampin the stones. Lead metal, being malleable absorbs stresses and protects both the steel clampand the marble." (PDF) Steel Clamps from the Acropolis: Some Old, Some New and Some Digital. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313478370_Steel_Clamps_from_the_Acropolis_Some_Old_Some_New_and_Some_Digital [accessed Nov 07 2022].
In conclusion, yes earthquakes made the development of (some) architectures techniques.
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This is a question about earthquake amplitude attenuation.
With your experience of observing earthquake waveforms or simulating ones, I hope you will give us some insight on that matter.
I'm trying to simulate the PGD/PGA attenuation along a given azimuth of an earthquake magnitude 5.5, reverse fault (S:215 D:50 R:84), with point source simulation.
The process is to simulate synthetic seismograms at each stations separated with equidistance (~5km). A 1-D tabular velocity model is used.
We consider only the horizontal components (radial and transversal); and the PGD/PGA is the maximum between them.
The results I'm getting are strange for me.
The figure attached shows the PGA amplitude of 40 stations in two directions: azimuth 45° and azimuth 125°.
I was expecting a constant regular attenuation from the nearest station to the farthest one. Instead, I got two sudden decrease followed by an increase in the amplitude (around 56km and 130km for the example shown in the figure attached).
I did run several tests and this anomaly (if it is), doesn't seem to be affected by the event depth or with seismic nuting.
I would like to know if in such condition (ideal conditions without any amplification factors at the surface) we expect an amplification in amplitude (due to ordinary wave behavior such us multiple) ?
Or is it expected, especially with reverse faults? Since the chosen azimuths (45° and 125°) are ~ parallel and perpendicular to the strike?
Or is there any other explanation or error that I'm missing.
Thank you in advance for your help
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Thank you very much for those details.
I will check the monograph you mentioned.
Thank you
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I am performing the earthquake analysis on bridge structure in ABAQUS CAE under Dynamic Implicit step. I am getting the error as shown in the picture attached.
Please see the attached picture of error.
All elements are C3D8R.
How to resolve this error?
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Hi everybody,
Nice question Muhammad Farhan, I am slightly familiar to ABAQUS, but after many tests, in analysis of systems with nonlinear behavior of piece-wise linear type, even when the iterations of nonlinear solution do not converge you may continue the analysis and arrive at sufficiently accurate responses. (This may be also true for other types of nonlinear behaviors.) The reason in brief is the fact that the computed responses are at least under the effects of two independent sources of error; one because of nonlinearity, and the other due to approximate time integration, also see:
(a) Soroushian, A. and Wriggers, P., 2023. Test of an Idea for Improving the Efficiency of Nonlinear Time History Analyses When Implemented in Seismic Analysis According to NZS 1170.5: 2004. In International Conference on Wave Mechanics and Vibrations (pp. 107-114). Springer, Cham.
(b) Soroushian, A., Wriggers, P. and Farjoodi, J., 2015, May. From the notions of nonlinearity tolerances towards a deficiency in commercial Transient Analysis softwares and its solution. In Proceedings of 5th ECCOMAS thematic conference on computational methods in structural dynamics and earthquake engineering (COMPDYN 2015), Corfu, Greece.
(for he first the movie of the presentation is also available in my researchgate, I may not be able to attach now)
OK, with many thanks for your kind attention, have a nice day tomorrow and all future.
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How to sell a part of a patent and build a global network of short-term forecasts if the discovery and technique were created by an individual author?
For example:
Appeal to the seismologists of the Arab countries.  With the aim of establishing a Near East short-range earthquake forecast network, I am offering to the Arab countries (via Jordan or via the UAE) part of the short-range earthquake forecast patent and my assistance in processing the materials for the forecast. The system and method have successfully passed the tests of earthquake prediction in real conditions with high accuracy and reliability - 95-100%.
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Applicants YAGODIN, Alexandr [IL]/[IL]
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В Израиле меня даже запретили упоминать в СМИ, хотя на два заседания Комиссии Кнессета меня пригласили. В 2005 г на заседании моя методика заслужила замечание, Эйнат Ааронова заявила, что он разговаривала с китайскими сейсмологами и они ответили, что не получается прогнозирование, так-как слишком много переменных, но на работу доктора Ягодина надо обратить внимание..." (так-как я нашел физическую связь между аномалиями и землетрясением.) В 2013 году доктору физики из Техниона она заявила, что "ничего подобного она не говорила" , - интересно, кто ее мог так испугать, ведь протокол был написан и там есть ее слова. Ведь в 2013 году меня нужно было не допустить к конкурсу, в котором тем, кто не решил проблему дали 33 миллиона шекелей.
В 2017 г Главный ученый Мин обороны прочел мой доклад и меня направил на заседание Комиссии Кнессета, где "та группа сейсмологов" признала, что не может давать прогноз, а только дают сообщение, что началось землетрясение. Мой доклад Комиссия Кнессета приняла, но никакого финансирования мне не дали.
В 2019 г. Комиссия (с Ави Шапира и Амиром Яхавом) признала, что создан метод, но принципиально не пожелала финансировать, хотя других методов у них нет. При этом они пытались понять: как можно обойти мой патент. Но это невозможно, так-как главное - волна Козырева-Ягодина.
Работу мне не дают, предлагали работать без договора... я их послал.
ИТАК: Я могу заявить, что страна, которая желает получить метод, может купить даже 10 - 20% патента и я буду с ними работать.
Предприятие Эрта заявляло, что готово работать, применяя мой метод, но я не продавал им прав. Они меня полтора года держали без зарплаты, попыталось сделать новый патент без моего согласия. В статьях они "забывали" указать что я - автор и патент написан в 2005 - 2007 гг. и что патент не передавался предприятию Эрта Технолоджи. Но зато сами без меня поделили проценты так, что автор оказался в меньшинстве.
Правда, они забыли, что такой патент в принципе - мусор, так-как он их не защищает.
Потому я готов продать часть патента и дать знания той стране, которая готова работать честно и стать лидером в краткосрочном прогнозе, в глобальной сети.
Но я не знаю, как связаться, с какой страной... Все документы у меня есть.
И что дальше делать?
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I am interested in the impact of the 2015 earthquakes on the springs. There are many anecdotal reports of springs drying or shifting, but is there any hard evidence of the impact?
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Read my article "Floods and droughts as a result of deformability of the geological environment". http://www.mhwm.pl/Floods-and-droughts-as-a-result-of-deformability-of-the-geological-environment,58810,0,2.htmlpl)nment".
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As a result of bottom uplift during an earthquake, an ordinary trochoidal surface (transverse) wave occurs. There are no other opinions. The first slide shows the generally accepted wave generation mechanism. The second slide shows a diagram of the motion of particles in a surface wave. Everyone thinks so. In 2006 in Vienna, at the Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission's Tsunami (EGU2006), I asked everyone why a tsunami begins with an outflow of water from the coast. My question was of no interest. The third slide shows that the water will first move away from the shore. The fourth slide shows that in the open ocean there is a hole first and then a mountain. Maybe this is not a trochoidal wave, but a Rayleigh wave? The scheme of the Rayleigh wave is shown on the fifth slide. If this is so, then the tsunami formation mechanism (first slide) is wrong?
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Dear Laszlo Attila Horvath.
Your remark is too concise and categorical for a scientist. There is such wisdom: "never say never".
You gave links to the articles "Gravity is a paradym shift in reasoning" and "The real cause of gravity can be proven by facts" which do not consider the physics of the Rayleigh wave and cannot be used as an argument. I can advise you and other participants in the discussion to familiarize yourself with the information on the possibility of the distribution of Rayleigh waves propagating at the boundary of the solid and liquid phases, that is, in the ocean. Simplified quote: “If at the boundary of the solid and liquid phases the speed of sound in the liquid is less than the speed in the solid phase, and this is true for almost all real media (and for the ocean), then a Rayleigh-type wave is generated at the interface. This wave continuously transfers vibrational energy from bottom to top into the liquid phase, forming a wave in it.
Source: Surface acoustic waves - Physical Encyclopedia (femto.com.ua).
It is also well known that seismic Rayleigh waves have much in common with sea surface waves, as well as tsunamis. For example, seismic Rayleigh waves, like tsunamis, begin with depression, and after half the period of the wave, a crest occurs.
Sincerely, Natalia Kucherenko.
Уважаемый Ласло Аттила Хорват.
Ваше замечание слишком лаконично и категорично для ученого. Есть такая мудрость: «никогда не говори никогда».
Вы дали ссылки на статьи "Гравитация парадигмный сдвиг в рассуждениях" и "Настоящая причина гравитации может быть доказана фактами", которые не рассматривают физику волны Рэлея и не могут быть использованы в качестве аргумента. Могу посоветовать Вам и другим участникам дискуссии ознакомиться с информацией о возможности распространения волн Рэлея на границе твердой и жидкой фаз, то есть в океане. Упрощенная цитата: «Если на границе твердой и жидкой фаз скорость звука в жидкости меньше скорости в твердой фазе, а это верно почти для всех реальных сред (и для океан), то волна релеевского типа генерируется на границе раздела фаз. Эта волна непрерывно передает колебательную энергию снизу вверх в жидкую фазу, образуя в ней волну».
Источник: Поверхностные акустические волны - Физическая энциклопедия (femto.com.ua).
Общеизвестно также, что сейсмические волны Рэлея имеют много общего с морскими поверхностными волнами, а также цунами. Например, сейсмические волны Рэлея, как и цунами, начинаются с впадины, а через половину периода волны наступает гребень.
С уважением, Наталия Кучеренко.
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Seismic moment gives us the release of the energy during earthquake. If this could relate to the PGA expected at site, we could estimate the PGA from moment magnitude itself. Probabilistic seismic hazard analysis is an elaborate procedure to get this but a direct relation can save a lot of time and calculations.
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Цититиа "Probabilistic seismic hazard analysis is an elaborate procedure to get this but a direct relation can save a lot of time and calculations".
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Землетрясения оценивают по енергии в гипоценте (магнитуда) и по баллам разрушений, например по шкале Рихтера.
Магнитуда ничего не говорит о разрушениях. Мы не знаем, как эта энергия дойдет до поверхности Земли. Наиболее сильные землетрясения на глубине 500 км не ощущаются людьми. Баллы по шкале Рихтера разные для монолитных железобетонных конструкций и для домов из глины.
Эта проблема до сих пор не решена. Её не хотят решать.
В этой области все очень плохо.
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I am doing my MTech thesis on topic “ANALYSIS OF SEISMIC SEPARATION GAP BETWEEN TWO ADJACENT REINFORCED CONCRETE BUILDING” and i am planning to use FVD250 between two adjacent buildings, so what will be the cost of one single viscous damper and is it good idea to use FVD between building?
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Study the Petronas twin tower connections and you will understand the concept of connecting towers with dampers.
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Geothermal energy is a renewable energy generated from earth's heat which can be harvested for human use. However, my first question is about is there any solution for absorbing and utilizing the earthquake energy and if possible can that be done by using geothermal energy. I know that earthquake energy is quite immense and difficult to do this practical which requires high technology and more expensive too but is there any possibility even though to resolve this issue?. Please, kindly respond.
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