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Is there any "special" didactic for Mathematical Logic, as a subject for Engineering students?
Or it does not worth to take care about how explaining, orienting students, because, any way, it is too difficult, abstract subject for almost everybody....
On the other hand: what kind of content should be taught? Propositional and/or Predicate Calculus? Deductive structures? All them?
Should be used the concept of formal system as framework for systematizing above mentioned contents?
Is the development of abstraction, deductive capabilities, algorithmic thinking, a concern to have in mind when teaching Mathematical Logic?
If physics adjusted for the law of identity, could we exactly quantify the afterlife? How?
Maybe so:
1)On Physics:
Presentation Critical Rationalist Physics
2)Deductive reasoning:
Parapsychology very intimately opposes determinism because the least supported claims by parapsychologists are deterministic(supposedly seeing the future). Plus, the critical rationalist version of parapsychology (which I adhere to) deduces a spiritual realm must exist because the human capacity to reason requires at least the fundamental choice to focus on life.
Thus explaining free will, the self and the law of identity.
Kirk Aanes must have been kind for Mulan (his ex) to speak well of him. "Just learned of the passing of Kirk Aanes. My condolences to his famiy and loved ones. He was a good soul. RIP, dear one"( https://twitter.com/MingNa/status/431264318701584384?s=19 ).
Adding to my case: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/381483753_Honor_Kirk_Aanes
Critical rationalism respects the law of identity. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/381469939_Critical_Rationalist_Physics
All good derives from bad. Disincentives are everything. Deduction is more rigorous than induction.
The simulation theory is NOT parsimonious because at least partial free will is self-evident. Reason would not exist without the fundamental choice to focus on life. Even animals probably make decisions thus, have souls.
My best strategy is to make my body of work on metaphysics so big and rigorous that, people will ponder "how would he have done this without a doctorate?"
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No because a human without a soul is only material(lacking free will, not having the fundamental choice to reason) thus cannot enjoy whatever the soul was exchanged for. To elaborate, without one’s soul, one is cells of the human body and cannot enjoy anything through lacking senses and missing identity.
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Of course I sometimes doubt the afterlife is eternal salvation for all, so, I live and deduce what it might be...
Without AT LEAST limited free will, humans would NOT be able to measure parsimony.
Another try to make progress in eliminating ignorance/delusion and arrogance and conceit in behavioral SCIENCE.
For science , for empiricism (and for AI (<-- to enlist, YET eventually dispel, the greed motivator)) : the truly empirical behavioral scientists, those who ARE empirical in studying behavior PATTERNS (SO: just and only all the involved overt behavioral PATTERNS will do, when looked at developmentally, for ALL explanation), must work in a way to come to see that THE MAJOR TYPES OF LEARNING (and these occur during ontogeny) ___ ARE ___ found (discovered, like the naturalist) to BE major kinds/types of INDUCTION (as is true of all other developed organisms). We cannot be that different for it to be otherwise.
As true factual and empirical as classical and operant conditioning (and habituation, etc.) ARE, THESE ARE the extreme trivial details. [ AND, one must realize : "Social leaning" is a farce, for such a vague concept looses the individual organism as the ONLY true empirical unit-of-analysis -- which it IS (MUST be, that's biology, friends). ] MY system of understanding, in my two major papers, OUTLINES what one should find concretely IN OVERT BEHAVIOR PATTERNS (and never leave the word "patterns" out ) -- reflecting the major types/kinds of induction.
[ And, though big on induction, the proximate causes are [ attentional / ] perceptual shifts . (I hate to say it, but one can reason-out the necessity of this being the case.) ]
Starting with this attitude and outlook, only then can we find (AS IS NECESSARY for ALL good reasons and science) the was-ness in the is-ness ( i.e.; previous grand well-developed units as THE units, or portions as part-units, USED IN more advanced inductive reasonings). This all (all the above) is absolutely the shortest way of saying what we MUST realize (<-- not "just subjectively" at all) ). AND: one cannot argue an excuse, or THAT ITSELF is THE VERY damning premature hypothetico-deductive "reasoning" , the very essence of arrogance and conceit AND that which necessarily derails science -- that being the necessary consequence of "jumping the gun" on prediction .
Any questions? I am 70 years old, so one will find further true leads / clues (or that which will result in true leads IN my WORK (science essays and the theory outlines)) , I have introduced before in my writings, beginning 40 years ++ ago.
[ FOOTNOTE : the descriptors provided by researchgate ARE GROSSLY INCOMPLETE and INADEQUATE. Just one example : NO "inductive reasoning" ! : this is the premature know-it-all stance that has been, and is, destroying science (AND us). ALSO : no "innate action pattern" !! No : "hypotheses" -- enabling THAT to be a SUBJECT itself ! Come on ! It's sickening -- and NOT the way to make progress, but the way to fail. (One used to be able to add non-existing descriptors, but THAT is gone, obviously WAY TOO SOON.) ]
Liberalism is a highly hegemonic and maybe all encompassing force that stems from God as humans would NOT have the ability to reason to implement social justice WITHOUT The Holy Trinity.
I am conducting a single-case study (process tracing) on a civic movement. My approach is deductive, as I want to test if a theory applies to the selected case. My case is the movement, as this is the phenomenon that the theory is set to explain, and that I consequently study empirically.
However, I have two within-case observations (location A & B), that are interesting in the same context. While location A demonstrates both X and Y (i.e. typical case), location B only demonstrates Y, and X is not there.
What puzzles me is:
1. If my case and thus the unit of analysis is the movement, can I conduct a within-case comparison, and still have it be process tracing (theory-testing)?
2. If I take locations A & B as my units of analysis, then I have to drop process tracing and turn to structured focus comparison, which would mean I cannot conduct theory testing anymore?
Any guidance or literature recommendations would be highly appreciated!
/Hayk
Our answer is YES. This is, however, a frequent question, and the answer has been: no. For context, see the video 2016 Patrusky Lecture by Steven Weinberg, on "What's the matter with quantum mechanics?"
We take the reasoned position: yes. Thinking otherwise would be to give up on deductive reasoning, on physics, on causality.
What is your qualified opinion?
I have encountered people who, when confronted with a counterexample to a general claim, will respond with another example that is consistent with the general claim, as if this somehow refutes the counterexample. Is there a name for this fallacy?
What do you think about the theory of falsification (Karl Popper)? Do you use the Popperian falsification (e.g. deductive logic) approach in your research?
Why is there a bias against inductive reasoning and in favor of deductive reasoning in the social sciences?
First, to establish there IS a bias:
It is OFTEN said (really as if it were a defining [damning] condition) that : induction or inductive inference is "made under conditions of uncertainly". Then, in describing deductive reasoning/inference there is typically NO SUCH mention of uncertainty. What? Just because one (or one and her associates) comes up with a hypothetico-deductive system of thought _THAT_ SOMEHOW REMOVES UNCERTAINTY??? This is NONSENSE -- YET this [at least] is a very real AND DESTRUCTIVE "Western" bias: that when you develop some system to think with/in from WHATEVER actual data, then you, simply because you are now thinking in/with that internally consistent system, you will develop clear hypotheses _AND_ (as the bias goes) THESE WILL LIKELY BE TRUE (as shown via their "testing" -- and, no matter what standard of "testing" you have com up with). (Descartes would have loved this.)
Now look at some of the TRUTH that shows this is VERY, VERY likely an VERY unwarranted bias and it is quite conceivable that the opposite is true: Decent Induction shows more clarity, reliability, predictably, and inter-observer agreements THAN almost all deductive systems.
If in certain circumstances/situations a behavior PATTERN(s) which can be specified and has a directly observable basis, then induction can show GREAT inter-observer agreements _and_ this is sure-as-hell just as strong (actually, likely stronger) a result (reliable, agreeable result/finding (discovery)) than most any p<.05 results found when testing hypotheses that come out of a hypothetico-deductive system . All you jackasses that cannot think that way should establish a re-education camp FOR YOURSELVES or have nothing to do with science (other [real] scientists rightfully shun and ignore psychologists at any conference on science, for scientists in general: They sense OR know what I am saying.)
Yet, indeed, this very ridiculous bias leads people to come up with models where ALL concepts are NOT clearly rooted/beginning in directly observable overt behavior [PATTERNS] (I have even read one group of researchers, who wrote a paper on the difficulties of understanding ABSTRACT CONCEPTS, trying to "define" abstract concepts (and thinking) saying: "I think we should develop a thorough MODEL FIRST" (meaning: NOT after findings/data, but develop the model FIRST and, only then, look for the "behaviors". This is empirically unacceptable to an extreme. I believe such thinking would make Galileo throw up.) I have argued that a model cannot be good, unless ALL concepts ARE rooted/founded/based/stemming from directly observable overt behavior (again actually: behavior PATTERNS). The fact that so very, very little research is discussed, during the conception of a MODEL (OR afterward), in terms of behavior PATTERNS indicates an absolutely fatal problem (fatal to any hope for a science of Psychology). Still, today, Psychology is Medieval.
This "Western" society is presently (STILL) so sick (crazy -- like Descartes would likely be considered today) TO HAVE ANY POSSIBILITY TO HAVE A SCIENCE OF PSYCHOLOGY.. "Mere" BUT ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL OBSERVATIONS (and some associated discoveries) ARE NOT SOUGHT. (I believe if Galileo were here, he would say we have not yet made a decent start for a science of Psychology.)
What is true is that we will never, without proper bases and procedures, EVER understand important behavior patterns (and what aspects of circumstance(s) are related to them) EVER . (I shall not elaborate here, since so many want short answers (and ones damned close to those they have heard/"learned")).
Like other parts of my perspective and prescribed approach, this view is UNASSAILABLE !
Let my other thousand, or so, essays reinforce and trumpet what I have said here (they are all consistent with all my points and with each other, and these essays are here on RG).
P.S. Behavior patterns PER SE are an aspect of Biology, and very likely recognition and discovery of behavior patterns can ITSELF (alone) provide a full science. If you think of "Biology" always as something else then recall the re-education I have suggested.
Dear esteemed colleagues,
I would love to hear your thoughts or opinions on the following statements posted. Thank you very much in advance
Example statement
1). Launching a research study to study why doing something as now become a cultural phenomenon.
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2). Launching a research study to study if doing something as now become a cultural phenomenon.
I am of the train of thought that with statement 1, there is an existence of a cultural phenomenon due to previous extant literature and this research study wants to study why this is the case as opposed to statement 2 which the study wants to study if there is one (Yes or No)
Deductive certainty has limited relevance to everyday affairs but merely the rearrangement of what is known or exists
Question answered! Thanks to all experts who replied!
Dear experts,
I am currently writing my final thesis, a feasibility study in the agricultural industry. I must choose to either use an inductive or deductive approach during this project, however, I am in doubt which approach to choose, as, in my opinion, I use aspects of both.
In my literature review, I use general theories (Abell; Laddering; ...) mainly to set up an interview guide. My primary research mainly consists of semi-structured interviews with farmers, using the interview guide. I will code these data to come to my conclusions and recommendations. The way I see it, this research is as qualitative as a feasibility study can get.
As said, I am in doubt about the approach I should use / am using. I recognize a number of deductive elements in the literature review (using an abstract theory to set up specific interview questions), but the field research is an inductive process. Your view on this would be highly appreciated!
Yours faithfully,
Aito G. Atzema
There have been several learning theorists now that speak of non-associative influences on learning. Here are some quotes from a few:
(My important Comments follow the quotes, below.)
QUOTES From "Three Ways That Non-associative Knowledge May Affect Associative Learning Processes" by Thorwart abd Livesly:
"While Mitchell et al. (2012) favored an explanation purely based on conscious reasoning processes, where participants deliberately attend to the cues they believe are important, a viable alternative is that attentional processes are brought under conscious control and thus let non-associative knowledge influence the course of subsequent learning."
"In some circumstances, associative activation of the outcome may form the strongest available evidence about what is going to happen when a cue is presented, or the strongest indicator of how the individual should behave. But under other circumstances, for instance where it is very clear that a deductive reasoning process should be used, associative memory retrieval may play a relatively minor role "
"a viable alternative is that attentional processes are brought under conscious control and thus let non-associative knowledge influence the course of subsequent learning. This source of influence does not necessitate that non- associative expectations fundamentally change the operations of the associative network itself, merely what it receives"
"In addition, if non-associative knowledge can affect the way stimuli are represented then this knowledge may also change the manner in which associative retrieval generalizes from A to AB"
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QUOTES From Mackintosh Lecture: Association and Cognition: Two Processes, One System. I.P.L. McLaren et al:
" ... does not shy away from placing associative processes at the very centre of our dual process account, and postulates that propositional processing is built upon associative foundations"
"... we are propositional entities constructed from an associative substrate."
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QUOTE From
Moving Beyond the Distinction Between Concrete and Abstract Concepts Barsalou et al:
"Conversely, when people generate features of abstract-LIT concepts, they typically generate external elements of the situations to which they apply. "
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My IMPORTANT COMMENTS:
Problem for these theorists/researchers is that their "new propositions", "non-associative factors" and "new generalizations" ARE INTRACTABLE. Such phenomenon seem to be inferable, indeed, but they do not have a way to find the source (any empirical grounding). Thus, these theories at present have no empirical referents at major points to "get to go where they want to go".
Well, I actually address the same things: in EFFECT providing for new propositions (used in deductions), new generalizations, and what appear to be non-associative factors. BUT, my theory sees the origin of these effects IN QUALITATIVELY DIFFERENT cognitive stages, and due to "perceptual shifts". BUT, here is the REALLY GOOD NEWS: I indicate an empirical way to discover the "perceptual shifts", using new eye-tracking technology and computer-assisted analysis. I describe what to look for in enough detail to do the eye-tracking studies, during ontogeny -- at key points. Thus, my theory, which provides for the same kind of shifts in learning HAS TESTABLE HYPOTHESES. If the hypotheses of my ethogram theory are verified (and they can be is correct), we will at least have found the concrete directly observable overt behavior patterns associated WITH THE INCEPTION of that which yields the new abilities/phenomenon.
One other thing: Because the proximate cause (outside environmental factors and contextualization from the Memories -- which both can be seen as the other simultaneous proximate causes) IS "perceptual shifts" then nothing is divorced from ASSOCIATIVE LEARNING. This is also the end of the nature/nurture false dualisms. All still involves associative learning -- and no strange "non-associative" stuff.
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Finally a definition consists of properties enumeration, or describing based on phrases/sentences (formed by words). to precisely define something one uses words (in sentences), words which for their part are to define with the aid of other(!) words (structured in phrases); words which themselves must be defined… anew. to precisely define is practically impossible.
I am aware of the nature of this question, not truly scientific. Nonetheless, how many of us had to deal with nonsense comments on reviews of papers? I would like to learn with your expertise about this topic. When facts are not enough to argue a nonsense list of comments what do you do?
Thanks in advance.
I've done a little searching online and this seems to be the case. But it's mostly deductive reasoning that I'm going on. I can't find anything that says clearly yes or no that it can be done that way.
n-back training improves working memory capacity. There is strong evidence that wm-capacity correlates to fluid intelligence. But could this correlation mean that n-back training might affect more practice based higher order skills, like deductive reasoning in schools?
Can you help me choosing syllogism, that require the same number of MM (Byrne, Johnson-Laird), but have different informational gain (PHM, Oaksford, Chater)? High informational gain has a syllogism with low a priori probability (e.g. "all A are B") as the opposite are conclusions "some a re not b", which are very probable for random objects, and have low informational gain.
There are many indications that this is the case today, with the added advantage that Newton's laws can then be derived rather than proposed. For example, consider this quote from Benjamin Crowell [1]:
In many subfields of physics these days, it is possible to read an entire issue of a journal without ever encountering an equation involving force or a reference to Newton's laws of motion. In the last hundred and fifty years, an entirely different framework has been developed for physics, based on conservation laws.
The new approach is not just preferred because it is in fashion. It applies inside an atom or near a black hole, where Newton's laws do not. Even in everyday situations the new approach can be superior. We have already seen how perpetual motion machines could be designed that were too complex to be easily debunked by Newton's laws. The beauty of conservation laws is that they tell us something must remain the same, regardless of the complexity of the process.
[1] Benjamin Crowell, Light and Matter, chapter 14, retrieved from
Is "discharging assumptions" a deliberate, separate act or do we simply close a subdeduction?
Conventionalism is a philosophical concept whereby some principles or propositions, both cognitive and ethical- political are conventions, based on an agreement or a choice (even implicitly), can not be assessed in terms of truth or falsehood. This concept has been the subject of deep analysis since ancient times.
The conventionalist position has received one of the most original developments since the beginning of the twentieth century, following the construction of non-Euclidean geometry and the consequent denial of the obvious truth of the geometrical axioms. The reflections of the scientist and philosopher Mach, of philosopher and historian of science Duhem, and especially of the great mathematician J.-H. Poincare contributed deeply to the conventionalist analysis of the development of the sciences.
Poincaré gave an important contribution for reflection on conventionalism both denying the validity of the Kantian theory, which considers the Euclidean geometry an ‘a priori’ science, and contrasting the idea that non-Euclidean geometry (and geometric systems in general) be empirically verifiable. No experience, for Poincare, will ever have the power to verify or falsify a geometrical theorem and the axioms of geometry are only conventions ("disguised definitions"), free creations particularly comfortable for the representation and the organization of experience.
Karl Popper in the ‘Logic of scientific discovery 'so spoke about conventionalism: "The philosophy of conventionalism must be considered highly meritorious for the way it has helped to clarify the relationship between theory and experiment. It acknowledged the importance, to which inductivists had paid so little attention, of the part that our actions and our operations, planned according to conventions and deductive reasoning, have in the execution and interpretation of our scientific experiments. I believe that conventionalism is a self-sufficient and defensible system. It is unlikely that attempts to grasp it in some contradictions be successful. "
A further extension of the conventionalist reflection comes from the development of the so-called hypothetical-deductive conception of axiomatic systems (G. Peano, Hilbert, M. Pieri etc.) and from the researches of the logical empiricists (Carnap, Ayer, Hempel, etc.). With the first, the concept of axiom lost any reference to the idea of value and the intuitive meaning of the terms given in the principles: axioms represent patterns of propositions that can be variously interpreted and from which, by rule, other propositions may be deducted.
The choice of axioms no longer supports their intrinsic intelligibility and evidence, but on their adequacy to systematize (axiomatizing) a given set of knowledge. If, however, in the initial hypothetical-deductive conception axioms of the theory, although arbitrary, were tied to a unique logic , with the logical empiricism, and particularly with Carnap, is to assert the purely conventional rules of logic he understood as a part of the language syntax.
This was a consequence of the development of the non-classical logical and was a meaningful expression in the Carnapian affirmation of the so-called ‘principle of tolerance’, according to which “in logic there is no moral "and each can build as its own logic dictated, i.e. its form of language, providing syntax rules of consistency and deduction for the propositions of a logical system. Carnap later - following the influential Quine's objections to the possibility of providing a clear distinction between analytic statements (true for language) and synthetic statements (true based on the facts of experience) on which positivism based its epistemology - would extend the conventionalist principle also to some semantic aspects of language, with the proposal to consider analytic truths as the "meaning postulates" that is, conventional truths no further justified except by virtue of a pragmatic choice.
Forms of conventionalism are also present in the post-Popperian and post-positivist philosophy of science.
Particularly important in this context, took over the thesis of empirical under-determination of scientific theories (partly due to Duhem and partly to Quine) that different theories can be compatible with the same set of observational data, with the result that the choice between theories would be based on pragmatic considerations of simplicity and convenience (as well as in Poincare the choice between alternative geometries) rather than on their ability to provide a true representation of reality. This issue has been the focus of much debate over the issue of scientific realism.
Tony Lawson claims that deductivism is synonymous with taxonomy.
This is not a misinterpretation of his views - his writing literally bristles with statements to this effect and even when referring obliquely to taxonomy, Lawson does not neglect to put deductivist in parenthesis to remind us that it is supposedly a synonym; e.g. lambasting “the overly taxonomic (deductivist) orientation to method (p. 972)” or yearning for the “demise of all overly taxonomic (including deductivist) approaches (p. 973).”
I disagree. I do not see even the slightest similarity between deductive logic and taxonomy. If there is anybody at Research Gate who sees any similarity, I would like to know what it is.
In 1999 I published a book, Axiomatic Theory of Economics.
Since then I have found that economists who have not read even the simplified exposition will invoke the name Kurt Gödel when dismissing my theory.
I know who Gödel is, but I do not see what the foundations of mathematics have to do with me. I rely only on widely accepted calculus and real analysis results that should be familiar to any practicing engineer. The antipathy I get from economists has nothing to do with number theory – most of them would be hard pressed to even define a prime – it is all about me stating my assumptions clearly before proving my theorems.
So my question is:
How should I respond to people who invoke Gödel’s name when dismissing my work?
I am reminded of Van Helsing holding up a cross to Dracula, except for economists it is Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorems that ward off the evil logician.
Have other people at Research Gate faced similar criticism? How did you respond?
FYI I am NOT a follower of Gerard Debreu. I have my own theory. Something else that I have noticed about economists is that they are incapable of recognizing that it is possible to have more than one axiomatic theory that purports to describe the same phenomena. I have found it impossible to disabuse economists of the belief that Debreu (who was parroting Bourbaki) fully defines the axiomatic method.
Economists claim that the practice of deductive logic rises or falls with the fortunes of this one man, regardless of what axioms the practitioner is using. I reply that, since Debreu lost all of his followers in 1974 when his theory went down in flames, accusing me (who was eight years old at the time) of having ever been a follower is actually a straw man attack.
Should hypotheses always be based on a theory? I will provide an example here without variable names. I am reading a paper where the authors argue that X (an action) should be related to Y (an emotion). In order to support this argument the authors suggest that when individuals engage in X, they are more likely to feel a sense of absorption and thus they should experience Y. There is no theory here to support the relationship between X and Y. They are also not proposing absorption as the mediator. They are just using this variable to explain why X should lead to Y. Would this argument be stronger if I used a theory to support the relationship between X and Y? Can someone refer me to a research paper that emphasizes the need for theory driven hypotheses? Thanks!
How does it potentially effects findings from research?
Hi there,
Can anyone point me in the direction of a study that has assessed syllogistic reasoning (a form of deductive reasoning) with syllogisms that have 'social content'. For example, syllogisms whereby the premises relate to 'friendship', 'relationships' , 'beliefs about social relationships' etc.
Many research studies have used all sorts of content (positive, negative, extreme, emotional provocative etc.) but to date I cannot find a study that has used social content.
I have tried to make them up myself but this has come to no avail.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.
P.S - I have attached an example of some "traditional" syllogisms to this message to provide an indication of what syllogisms are and how they work.
Cheers
The different domains of analytical thinking (such as deductive reasoning, probabilistic reasoning, decision making, social cognition, moral cognition) draw on different dual-process model, that all share the idea of two distinct systems; one fast, intuitive, effortless, the other one being slow, deliberative and resource demanding. But on which model of resource (allocation, concept) do these different domains rely, respectively?