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synthesis and applications of conducting polymers
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The degree of crystallinity of conducting polymers affects the operation of organic field-effect transistors in a number of ways. The most important way is that it affects the mobility of the charge carriers in the polymer. The higher the degree of crystallinity, the higher the mobility. This, in turn, affects the transistor's on/off ratio, as well as the transistor's gain. However, low molecular conducting polymers are more useful for solution processed OFETs because they are more soluble in common organic solvents and have better film-forming properties. This makes them easier to process and results in better device performance. But, how can we use the rheological properties of low molecular weight conducting polymers to achieve high charge carrier mobility?
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Thank you for your input, Gyorgy. I have taken your points into consideration and I still believe that low molecular weight polymers are the way to go when it comes to dissolved polymers. However, I do believe that more research needs to be done in this area to truly understand the effects of different molecular weights on polymer properties.
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Many research papers mention using a solution of 0.1M aniline in 1M HCl or 1M H2SO4 as the polymerization bath for depositing a layer of polyaniline on the working electrode. However, the papers didn't mention the individual volumes of 0.1M aniline and 1M acid taken to form the solution. 
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Yaster Alamir Polymers are inert majority of the time... see the packaging of the container to examine if your polyemr is already conductive or not (depending on its form).. otehrwise i dont think just adding polymer in HCL is going to make it reasonably conductive .......
i synthesize mine using APS+ANiline+HCl solution ....
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I mean to say, what are the selection criteria for positive and negative electrodes?
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Here I can at least send you a patent (which is expired, but maybe or hopefully helpful):
However, I can not really answer your question. I would assume that the possibility to become reduced without becoming degraded and oxidized without becoming degraded is the key selection reason. But I have never really studied this.
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I would like to know what are the efficient method to prepare composite of conducting polymers with noble metal nanoparticle (Pt,Pd,Au) etc other than electrospinning method. Already the polymer has proved to have good conductivity and synthesized but the metallic nanoparticles has to be incorporated into the polymer.
Expecting valuable suggestions
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It is dependent to polymer and nanoparticle type. For example, Synthesis and Characterization of Process able Conducting polymer (such as Polyaniline or Polyaniline – Polystyrene) – noble metal composite may be performed through aniline polymerization in the presence of noble metal nanoparticle (Pt,Pd,Au)
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A lot of the research papers that I've read are about the dependence of the morphology formation of polyaniline to the synthesis conditions but only found one paper that gives the idea that the morphology formation is independent of the application form. I would like to ask how strongly valid is the latter statement and what some more papers can support it.
Thank you in advance!
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Dear all, I think the second statment is not correct. If porosity is considered for example, it is the morphology of prime importance for membranes applications, but for protecting coatings it is the morphology to be absolutely avoided. Please have a look at the following documents. My Regards
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Hi all,
I am planning to disperse metal nanoparticles in superglue (cyanoacrylates) and acrylic adhesives. What would be the methodology for that? I guess just sonicating won't be an option since cyanoacrylate will start polymerizing as soon as it comes in contact with any nucleophile in the surrounding environment or substrate. What could be a more feasible option? Thanks in advance.
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For adhesive formulation, cyanoacrylate & filler are not promising method. So, you will find out that traditional superglue is also clear, transparent, without any filler (even nano filler).
The filler always has some moisture, which can initiate the curing process of cyanoacrylate. So the mixture is always unstable.
Today, silver sintering (acrylate & peroxide & nano silver filler) is popular in semiconductor industry (high thermal, low VR, high reliability). You might search 'silver sintering' as key words in publications & patents. But those raw materials is very expensive.
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Thank you!
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PEDOT Mol.weight ~= 1000-2500 (with Degree of Polymerization of ~15) and length of polymer ~3-7 nm
PSS Mol.weight ~= 400 000
Clevios P 1.3wt % PEDOT:PSS with molar ratio of (1:2.5).
[ClevioPH1000 has higher Mol.weight than CleviosP (as Per dynamic light scattering (DLS)]*
References
2009-Microscopical Investigations of PEDOT:PSS Thin Films
2012-PEDOT Nanocrystal in Highly Conductive PEDOT:PSS Polymer Films
*Higher PEDOT Molecular Weight Giving Rise to Higher Thermoelectric Property of PEDOT:PSS: A Comparative Study of CleviosTM P and CleviosTM PH1000
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I want to prepare polymer composite containing conducting polymer and HNT through electrochemical deposition method. Please suggest suitable method to deposit HNT on conducting polymer (like PANI) through electrchemical deposition method
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Hello Vishnu,
thank you for posting this interesting technical question on RG. As a synthetic inorganic and organometallic chemist I'm certainly not a proven expert in this field of research. However, I frequently made the experience that is often pays off to directly search the "Publications" section of RG for helpful literature references. To give you an example, I searched RG for the term "halloysite nanotubes" and then clicked on "Publications". This is what came out:
I assume you will be surprised to see how many relevant papers have already been posted by RG members, many of them even as public full texts. Of course you can modify the search in accordance with your question.
I hope this helps. Good luck with your work and best wishes, Frank Edelmann
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In the (electro-) conducting materials, as I know, there is an energy gap between the valence band (VB) and the conduction band (CB) that can be brought to or near-to the Fermi level by doping (p-type or n-type dopant).
But ( My question is ), If I want to design a (semi- or super-) conductor's materials (inorganic or polymeric) , Which properties would I look for? and, also, Which characterizations would I consider for the properties' investigations? What are the requirements for the materials' property (with regard to its band structure) to achieve the considered structure-property relationships (or requirements ) for the preparation of the conducting materials?
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Indeed Dear Ahmed MS Dawelbeit it is a very interesting and subtle question, refer to it as a localization phenomenon is one way since electrons can be seen as wave packets that can be or not well defined within the structure (metal, either metallic polimer).
In general, we have a kinetic criterium with three well-defined regions, the product "l . kF", since we understand localization as the absence of diffusion of any kind of waves in a disordered medium.
Please check for the case of metallic polymers, the following reference:
Alan J. Heeger, 2003, The Critical Regime of the Metal-Insulator Transition in Conducting Polymers: Experimental Studies. Condensation and Coherence in Condensed Matter, pp. 30-35
it is very instructive
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the composite matrix material is preferred to conducting polymer rather than non conducting polymer?
what's the reason behind it?
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Like if the composite materials contains conducting polymer and metal oxides both, how to consider the formula for the calculation
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Theoretical capacitance can be calculated using the following formula,
Capacitance, C = n X F/M X V
Capacity = n X F/M X 3.6
Where, n is number of electron transfer, F is Faraday Constant, M is Molar mass, V is applied potential.
for more detail please find the attached article
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I am trying to do a computational study for some conducting polymers I've prepared. I wonder if there is a cif file for polyaniline or polypyrrole (not derivative) since I've been searching for a while and I cant find it?
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Dear Mo Ibrahim
There are several ways & souces to find cif file do not worry about it below are some the source
1.Cambridge Crystallographic Data Centre (CCDC)
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Although, several works have modified polyaniline with different nanocomposites and used in epoxy, I couldn't find any conducting polymers (polyaniline) being used in inorganic matrix. So, if anyone has any suggestions, that would be really great!
Thanks a lot
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I have grown thin films (~100-500 nm) of PEDOT:PSS by electrodeposition on top of thin films of Au (~1 nm) and now I want to measure the impedance of the PEDOT:PSS thin film.
To accomplish this I am thinking of depositing another layer of Au (or another conducting metal) on top of the PEDOT:PSS for it to act as a capacitor and use 4 probe method to measure its impedance.
However I am apprehensive that by using a magnetron sputtering technique to deposit Au on top of the PEDOT:PSS thin film will alter its properties, rendering the impedance measurements not viable.
I can also do IBD deposition of Au, but I think this will be worse. I could also electrodeposit Au, however in doing that I needed to apply a negative potential which would reduce the deposited PEDOT:PSS rendering it non-conductive.
Opinions on how to deposit a conducting (can be very thin) layer on top of PEDOT:PSS without interfering with it ?
Thank you for your time.
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Dear Henrique Teixeira , I think magnetron sputtering of gold shouldn´t interfere or change your PEDOT:PSS film. Argon plasma is directed towards the gold target, and therefore implantation of argon on your PEDOT:PSS should be negligible and therefore it would mantain its electrical properties.
I wonder if your thin films of Au (just 1nm thick) could cause problems due to holes.
The combination of both PEDOT:PSS and gold sputtering has already been described in publications, for instance:
Thermal evaporation of gold is another option that shouldn´t damage or change the PEDOT:PSS layer:
Hope it helps.
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I am working on PANi/PVA self-standing films. For that I have dispersed PANi source i.e. emeraldine salt dispersed in NMP and ultrasonicated for few hours and the centrifuged to settle down the heavy particles. Now I know PVA a non-conducting polymer is soluble in NMP so I add that in the PANi dispersed NMP and want to fabricate a self-standing film. Now for film fabrication the NMP should be evaporated completely and here comes my problem. The boiling point of NMP is above 200 degree Celsius so to dry it at room temperature is very difficult and if I heat the mixture then the film adheres with the glass petridish and it becomes almost impossible to peel it off so can anyone suggest me any solution for this? Thanking in anticipation.
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Muhammad Ahmad Thanks for your suggestion. I know what I am writing here now may sound immature but, just to be clear do I submerge the glass plate as soon as I took it off the heat so that the glass may break and I get the film or I should let it cool and then submerge it in water? Also by submerging in water should I have to worry about PVA getting dissolved again in water?
P.S. I am new to this polymer science and this is my first attempt to fabricate polymer films so kindly bear with my silly questions.
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Supercapacitor application
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It is the potential range of the materials on the electrode that determines if the electrode is more suitable for positrode or negatrode or both. For making a symmetrical cell with the same materials on both the positrode and negatrode, the potential range of the materials need to be wide enough to enable a practically meaningful working cell voltage (> 0.5 V or better > 1.0 V).
Most capacitive materials, such as rGOs, PANi, and RuO2 , have a potential window that is wide enough (> 0.8 V in aqueous electrolytes) and can be used to make symmetrical device. However, many battery-type materials, such as NiO and its derivatives have very asymmetrical CVs (i.e. oxidation current peaks are well separated from the reduction peaks) and hence are not good for symmetrical cells.
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Could anyone suggest me some good papers which involves the coating or mixing of MXenes with conductive polymers such as PEDOT or PANI or any other conductive polymer for that matter.
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Dear Lokesh Murali, by in-situ polymerization, you can easily solve MXene and aniline in the same solutions, then mix them by ultrasonication, and next initiate polymerization with dropwise addition of APS. the following paper is the same approach for PANI and clay layers:
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Dear researchers,
Iam working on electrospinning device with cylindrical collector, i saw research used three layers covered the collector while another one used single layer so i wondering if the thickness affects on the fibers collected or not ?
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Dear Ahmed Amer Al-Anibi, there is no effect, but the film should be strong enough to Peel off the fiber without distortion. This is why sometimes multi-layers of Al foil is prefered. My Regards
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What may be the reason/Argument for the increased dielectric constant with increasing temperature for Conducting Polymer Semiconductor nanoparticles?
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Dear Akhtar
The dielectric properties of a polymer are determined by
the charge distribution and also by the statistical thermal motion
of its polar group. The polarization of a dielectric is
contributed by ionic, electronic, and dipole polarization. The
electronic polarization occurs during a very short interval of
time of the order of 10^-10 sec, but longer than for electronic polarization i.e. 10^-3-10^-2 sec required for the process of ionic
polarization. To set in dipole polarization it requires a longer
time. In the case of polar polymers, the dielectric constant
begins to drop at a certain frequency. The dipole molecules
cannot orient themselves in the lower temperature region.
However, owing to thermal expansion, the ration of the
number of molecules to the effective length of dielectric
decreases when the temperature increases. As the
temperature increases, the orientation of dipoles is
facilitated and this increases the dielectric constant.
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Both are available in powder form need guidance for preparation of ink.
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I have been done for both solution pani and ppy by using ultrasonic dispersing with 1:5 of DMF or NMP solvent, it can be easily disperse at nano scale.
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Dear friends,
I need equivalent circuit to fit in the electrochemical impedance data?
I have separate Equivalent circuit diagram for screen printed carbon electrode and polypyrrole on stainless steel. Kindly refer  the attached file.
With thanks and regards,
Eswaramoorthy K V
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prof V.S Muralidharan Sir i want to know the procedure of ink preparation from PANI and polypyrrole?
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I have prepared PEDOT films on ITO by electropolymerization. I want to compare raman data of PEDOT films at various thicknesses since I observe change in its UV-vis absorption (dedoped PEDOT) spectra with respect to thickness (blue shift on increasing thickness). My films are in doped state and the laser I am using is 514.5 nm. Since doped PEDOT has very less absorption in 500-600 nm region, raman peaks are not very intense (no resonance). The only intense peak is ~1400-1450 nm which is for Cα=Cβ (thiophene ring) symmetric stretch. This peak is affected by change in doping state and conjugation of the ring. In my case I observe broadening of this peak for thinner PEDOT films towards higher wavenumber which is generally observed on increasing doping level. Is anything else can be interpreted from this data?
Thanks!
Regards,
Rekha
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There are good text books that can assist you
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I am using PMMA based gel plasticized with propylene carbonate. This gel is sandwiched between two electrodes (coated with electrochromic materials). Our devices are getting dry very fast and the dried area doesnt show any color change because it is completely dried up. We have tried epoxy glue for sealing the device but that also doesn't work effectively.
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Rekha
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I am having the same issue too. I wonder how you solved the dehydration problem...
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Hi,
I hope to hearing the comments from everyone on two basic issues about Cyclic voltammetry.
1. Firstly, I am doing a Cyclic voltammetry with a thin film of a conducting polymer (consider as supper capacitance) on the working electrode, a Ag/AgCl on reference electrode, and I am wondering if I should use a platinum plate or a piece of the same material as the working electrode for the counter electrode( make sure that the area of the counter electrode is always greater than that of the working electrode).
2. And secondly, the cyclic voltammograms showed that when I increased the scanning rate from 5 mV/s to 1000 mV/s with an increasing step of 20 mV, the Oxidation peaks shifted gradually to the right? I could not figure out the reason for this.
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Kindly have a look on following;
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Is there anyway to test or verify that the polymer is intrinsically conductive or there is no any doping effects?
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If you wish to measure the conductivity of a conducting polymer, you can use a monolithic micro-four-point probe with AFM observation. If the fixed linear probe spacing is an issue for you, microscopic 12-point probes have also been commercialised and might suit you better. Another method would be to use the microscopic-four-point probe with a scanning tunnelling microscope. This will enable you to obtain atomic resolution for your conductance measurements.
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Please explain electron charge transport mechanism in conducting polymer having metal sulfide as fillers composite via energy band diagram / chemical property? We have synthesized conducting polymer having metal sulfide nanoparticles in it. We want to find the electron charge transportation phenomenon using energy band diagram or their chemical properties (electron affinity etc/ permittivity etc).
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I have some glass substrates with a gold electrode pattern adhered using chromium. I drop cast or spin coat these substrates with a conducting polymer down the centre of the substrates so it covers the channel (gap in the gold). I then have to run a crosslinking step that involves submerging the whole substrate in an ethanol-water mixture. It's at this point that any gold exposed to the ethanol-water mixture will begin to detach from the glass and start floating around. The gold that is under the polymer sample remains attached (I assume because it is not fully exposed to the ethanol-water mixture and is thus protected?).
This might be a really simple question but is there anything I can do to make sure the gold stays attached to the substrates during the ethanol-water submersion? Or is there a suggestion of why the ethanol seems to lead to the gold detaching?
Thanks.
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I agree with Xuhua - the thickness of Cr should be minimum 5 nm and the thickness of Au 50-60 nm. Also, before deposition of contacts you have to be sure that the surface of your glass substrates is clean. I would recommend such a procedure: cleaning of the substrates using a detergent (e.g. Decon), high purity deionized water, acetone, and finally, methanol. Then, blow dry with nitrogen gas. If you want to be sure that your substrates are (super) clean, I would additionally do either oxygen plasma or UV/ozone treatment.
I hope it helps!
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Good day! I'm working conducting polymer pedot:pss. I already done with preparing pedot:pss which is a water-based solution. I obtained 200 ohms resistance of that solution. Now my objective is to deposit a solid film on to glass or metal substrate. I tried spray pyrolysis heated at 90 C, however the deposited film achieved 3-6 megaohms of resistance its to high compared to 200ohms. So can you suggeat a technique to deposit pedot:pss maintaining its original resistance or having resistance not as high as 10kilo-ohms and above. (please don't mention spin coating I don't have that device) Thanks in advance.
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You can try drop casting it, (read about it) but it's simple enough, you find a glass or metal substrate that isn't too hydrophobic... let's say a plain non conductive glass piece around 2 cm by 2 cm, .. you can take 500 ul of your solution and drop onto and allow it 8 hours or even over night to dry, you can then heat it for 10 minutes at 100 degrees... Now this should do the job, the issue however with resistivity is that it's dependent on the thickness of the film. So if you are seeking a certain conductivity you need to control thickness or try doping. I have my own recipes on increasing this conductivity to as high as FTO for example
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Ammonium persulfate (APS) is used as a common oxidant during chemical polymerisation of polyaniline and other ICPs. I wonder if the oxidant itself can dope the polymer during polymerisation (like the thing happens when we use FeCl3), since during reaction, APS is known to be converted to sulfate radicals and then anions, which are able to protonate the polymer even without the presence of acids such as HCl and organic acids.
I am asking this question because many papers suggest doping of polyaniline by mixing the dopant (organic acid, polymeric acid, etc.) within the reaction mixture (containing aniline as monomer). However, if this is the case and the oxidant is able to dope the polymer, there would be competition between sulfate anions (by APS) and other anions produced by the organic acids, and it would be impossible to attain a pure PAA or PSSA doped PANI or a pure CSA-doped PANi.
[Of course it is possible to first dedope the PANI with strong bases and then redope it with the desired acid which seems to be more rational]
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for further reading and an idea about the structure of polyaniline (which I believe is similar for other conductive polymers), look and read here:
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Hello all,
For the past week I have been working on a new electrode, the process however uses a double solvent cast in the construction of the electrode.
Initially a layer of CNT + Nafion in isopropanol are cast and dried at 100 degrees centigrade for 30 mins, this is followed by a cast of a mediator suspended in pure DMF.
Regardless of DMF having greater miscible properties than isopropanol, I'm curious if there is potential for the DMF to lift the first layer into the solvent?
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
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you will need electrodes that are resistant to organic solvents -
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During synthesis I found that when APS is added to a solution of Ani + HCl, even small amount of APS is sufficient to form the green color to solution. Of course the rate at which PANI is formed is different and increases with an increase in APS. Fresh HCl and Dist. Aniline were used. To what extent does the chemistry change and what are the possibilities that the other forms of PANI are forming?
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the surface of the freshly prepared PAni (and anyway PAni in general, also if not fresh) is highly acidic; the reaction has nothing to do with the reactants formerly used for running the polymerisation;
the acetone does not react with PAni, but the aldol reaction product becomes adsorbed on the PAni particle surface and deteriorates the PAni properties.
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Is it possible to dope a pre-made film of a conductive polymer that was synthesized without the dopant electrochemically? Additionally I was wondering if anyone has selectively doped/undoped the polymer electrochemically?
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conduct polymer structure
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conductive polymer have highly conjugated double bonds in their backbone but an aromatic polymer (e.g. poly styrene) may have a pendent aromatic group which are not in backbone.
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Hi, I have synthesized Poly(3,4-ethylenedioxythiophene) (PEDOT) by chemical oxidative polymerization method,using APS as an oxidizing agent, as conducting polymers are not soluble in water. Suggest me the solvents for dispersion of PEDOT. Thank you.
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Dear Mohsina Taj,
Best solvents for dispersion of PEDOT are:
01. organic solvents:
  • dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO),
  • ethylene glycol (EG)
02. co-solvent of water mixed with an organic solvent like:
  • Acetone,
  • MeOH,
  • EtOH,
  • IPA,
  • ACN
  • THF
I hope I have answered your question.
With Best Wishes,
Samir G. Pandya
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Dear all,
We have measured the electrochemical impedance of a conducting polymer and we would like to obtain the specific capacitance in term of F/g. The data from the EIS were fitted with an equivalent circuit. We also have Nyquist and bode plots are at our disposal.
I just need this value in order to compare with the literature.
Could you please recommand me some ways to calculate it ?
Thank you for your attention.
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A method I use, and have seen in papers describing frequency dependent real capacitance is as follows:
C' = (-Z''/ ω )*|Z|2
Where |Z| is SQRT((Z'2 + -Z''2 ))
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The literature on thermoelectric transport of charge carriers for amorphous systems is a bit scarce.Also, it is very confusing as to what the current model of transport of charge carriers for such systems are. Is it percolation?, is it hopping?, is it phonon drag?
Sub questions:
1. Why is the thermodynamic point of view of diffusion (used to introduce the subject) not a widely accepted view?
2. Which view is the most widely accepted now?
a. Phonon drag
b. Hopping
c. Percolation
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The main reason why I mentioned 'thermoelectric' is because charge transport is a very broad area and there are vast amount of ideas used to study it. So, I thought a given context would limit ideas to just specifics, but as you said its the same in electrical conduction and thermoelectric conduction.
Thank you for your very detailed response and links to relevant articles. I appreciate it a lot.
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1. I have plotted log ac conductivity vs log frequency to find out power factor, S. I am getting S values (ie, slope of graph) below 1 for some samples and S values (ie, slope of graph) above 1 for some samples. wheather it is possible to get S values above 1. what may be the meaning?
2. set of sapmles with S values below 1 follows different trends. ie, in some cases S values are independent of temperature where as in some cases S values linearly increses with increase in temperature. Can anybody can explain?
(All the samples are bioplymer based composite containing conducting polymer as filler in low wt%)
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Fequency range was 10Hz to 10MHz
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For example electrodeposition of an oxide film by potentiostatic method on a conducting polymer such as polyaniline or polypyrrole.
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Branimir N. Grgur : Thank you sir for the paper. I hope it will help me to find the answers which I am looking for.
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I am working on the synthesis and application of conducting polymer based supercapacitor electrodes. Can somebody provide some brief knowledge about different factors responsible to increase the current response in case of the supercapacitor electrodes. In case of cyclic voltammetry, we apply some potential and current is generated. How to increase that current response?
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Hello Tapas Das ,
I reattach some suggesed articles from the following RG question:
It's not so much the current response that you want to increase, but rather the specific capacitance (F.g-1) power density (W.kg-1)or energy density (Wh.kg-1). Of course, simply increasing the potential scan rate in CV will increase the current response. You will also find there are often differences between the calculated capacitance for cyclic voltammetry and charge-discharge experiments. My suggestion would be to make an effort to characterise and report values using both methods.
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I modified an electrode with a layer of conducting polymer
what are the analysis techniques that I can use to characterize the polymeric film?
How could I measure the thickness of this polymer layer?
Thank you in advance
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Others have offered good comments / suggestions to this question, particularly the use of cyclic voltammetry (CV) and electrochemical impedance spectrometry (EIS).
To add a little more, the more important parameter for characterising your conducting polymer coating is the amount of charge passed during the electro-polymerisation process. The thickness of the coating is strongly dependent on the porosity of the polymer coating which is largely affected by the speed of electro-polymerisation and the size and nature of the counter ion, and also the nature of the polymer itself.
The key point is that conducting polymer coatings prepared by electro-polymerisation are all highly porous and mechanically weak. As a result, it is difficult to prepare a very thick coating of conducting polymer (unless a mechanically strong counter ion or dopant is used in the electro-polymerisation process, such as anionised carbon nanotubes or graphenes). This means that measuring the thickness of the coating becomes less important compared with the amount of charge used for electro-polymerisation.
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As can be seen from the graph, there is a broad and low peak with an up exo arrow. I'm not sure what the respective process was and looking forward for any suggestion.
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Thank for your comment.
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If u know pls give me the infor mation
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Readily soluble in acetonitrile
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I have actually conducted experiments and solution of polypyrole and polypyrole doped with different dopants gave me great results.I was able to sense ammonia roughly upto 10 ppm. But , a question always arises that due to solvent present other than the conducting polymer there will be random changes in conductivity which increases error so how to minimise the error if we want to proceed with ammonia sensing using a polymer solution
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Can we use conducting polymer solution for ammonia sensing ?
A sensor based on polypyrrole is responding to pH and not specifically to ammonia.
How to minimise the random changes in conductivity because of solvent present in solution?
Any base or acid present in your sample will be an interferent. If only ammonia and a solvent are present, the dissociation constant of ammonia depends on this solvent.
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During the measurement of I-V curve in a metal-organic Schottky junction diode, getting lots of fluctuations. I have attached some files here. Need suggestions to avoid this thing. Tell me the physical reason behind it and the parameters I need to improve. (voltage ranges from -3V to 3V, data point 50, compliance 0.01)
Thanks.
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It looks to be a measurement noise .The practical solution is signal smoothing. Verify the resolution of your instrument (how many bits) and, if possible, set a lower current range. From your records, I estimate the lowest readable unit to be close to 1.10-7 A.
My suggestion: use a better measuring device.
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By looking at the structure of both molecules, I see that both molecules have at least two non-conjugated sigma bonds, making conductivity due to resonance seemingly impossible. I read from this paper " " that the conductivity of polystyrene is about 6.7*10^-14 S/m and polypropylene should have a conductivity somewhere between 10^-18 and 10^-17 S/m.
Some things I didn't consider is the density and porosity of the materials and possibly inter-molecular effects.
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Polystyrene in its molecules contains benzene rings. In benzene rings, electrons are delocalized between 6 carbon atoms and move in the benzene ring without resistance. This property increases the electrical conductivity of polystyrene in comparison with polypropylene. For comparison, you can indicate a pair of diamond and graphite. Graphite has a better electrical conductivity than diamond.
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Conducting polymer composite shows enhance electrical and magnetic properties
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The nano- and micro-particles of noble metals, such as Ag, Pt and Pd, entrapped in a conducting polymer film were extensively used for preparing functional electrodes for sensing purposes due to their intrinsic catalytic properties, high electrical conductivity, good chemical stability and new physicochemical performances that are different from those obtained in the bulk state.
By my question, I would like to know more about the application of these composites for fuel cells technology.
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I agree with Khaled J. Habib
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I have prepared conducting polymer films on ITO of height nearly 30 nm. They are showing crystalline nature in XRD spectra. I want to analyse the degree of crystallinity and polymer chain orientation on the films. Please guide me and give some suggestions.
Thank you.
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Depending on your polymer there might be transition moments (Infra-Red detectable) designated to certain axes of your polymer (e.g. chain axis) and by measuring FT-IR in reflection geometry where the vertical part of your IR signal is enhaced you might be able to see changes in polymer orientation even in 30nm thin films, but you will either need reflecting (metal) substrates or IR transparent substrates (e.g. silicon).
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I have prepared a composite of PANI (conducting polymer) and silver NPs by simple mixing method. This mixture will show same properties as those of Polyaniline (PANI)/silver (Ag) nanocomposites prepared by several other methods or not.
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You need to examine your composite using FE-SEM and TEM.
They will explain that clearly.
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Mostafa
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I have done the reaction at 0 degree. The substituted group affected the polymer yield. Is it possible to increase the yield of the substituted polymer group by oxidative polymerization method?
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yes you can do it, you need another monomer that has an attractor group to synthesize a copolymer to improve performance
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Hello everyone,
I would like to compute what temperature my pressed organic powder-based pellet reached after the application of a high voltage (max voltage around 250 V, experiment carried on at room temperature). I though to use joule effect formula and to equate it to the usual Q=m*C*(T-T0). This is however an abrupt method...do you ever know a more reliable one? My material is a natural polymer which exhibit both ionic and electronic conduction. It can be considered as a conducting polymer (low conducting anyway).
Finally, could anyone of you indicate me where I can find a complete table chart showing the thermal properties of solid conducting polymers (particularly the specific heat) ?
Thank you very much.
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The measurement will not be easy. If you have a low conductivity powder then you have to use a relatively large electrode surface and thin sample to get measurable current. You can measure the sample temperature only laterally, from the edge by e.g. non-contact thermometry (pyrometers work only at high temperatures), and even that will be loaded with error due to temperature distribution. Another problem can be breakdown within the powder and repoducibility problems related to compaction. The heat capacity of the polymer can be determined by DSC. Heat conductivities of most polymers are within a relatively narrow range in the order of 0.1-1.2 W/mK, see e.g. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=7510502
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Hello all,
I've been trying for a while now to crosslink dopamine to chitosan using various means, more recently I have been using glutaraldehyde.
My electrode is made in house using an ink from Gwent. It seems that once printed the ink is very susceptible to attack from a variety of solvents, such as acetone, toluene, etc. I've mainly used alcohols (solvent cast) and electropolymerisation/deposit to layer my electrodes.
I've been trying to link the two amine groups of the chitosan and dopamine but have been having issues. This most recent one affects the structural stability of the working area of the electrode.
Protocol:
  1. clean in 3:1 Piranha for 15 secs, rinse x3 and dry under nitrogen.
  2. Solvent cast a co-polymer of graphene oxide and chitosan, dry in oven at 30 degrees centigrade for 1 hour.
  3. wash off excess and dry under nitrogen
  4. place working area of electrode in 5% Glutaraldehyde at 37 degrees centigrade for 2 hours.
  5. Wash off excess and dry in oven at 30 degrees centigrade for 1 hour.
Now the next step would be to incubate in a poly dopamine solution pH 9.0 at 37 degrees centigrade for 3 hours but the electrodes seem to 'crack', and lift from the substrate surface in some cases, almost slightly desiccated?
Can anyone point out the error in my protocol or offer some useful advice?
I have previously tried electrodepositing chitosan to the electrode, which resulted in uneven coating due to bubbling at the surface.
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Craig
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Dear Craig,
If your research has scientific value and intended to be published, it is better for you to discuss it within the research team you work with, because a lot of details needs to be disclosed for the right answer.
Cracking and peeling off the electrode can depend on ink composition, solvent used for rinsing, electrode material, electrode surface properties, steering type, and experimental details you may count as "default" and not important.
If not to go much into details:
- cracking means you have change of conformation of polymer film after rinsing and drying. Do you really need drying? I would try all way through using the same solvent and keep polymer wet (including storing in an exicator with solvent-vapor saturated medium) .
- your film is adsorbed on an electrode (I guess). So, electrode should have the same surface nature (hydrophilic, I think), as your polymer. If you use GC or other type of carbon, I would plasma-clean it in oxygen plasma for a few minutes, so you end up with various oxygen-containing groups on the surface. Also, make it rough with a 1000-grit sandpaper. If it is metal, I would go to Pt, not Au (I would expect better adherence), and also make it rough.
Good luck,
Ievgen
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The copolymer of aniline and pyrrole (1g : 1g) were synthesized by dissolving it in 100 mL HCl (1 M) and using APS (4.8 g in 100 mL HCl (1 M)) as an oxidation agent. The polymerization were done in 0C in N2 atmosphere with stirring for 24 hrs.
The obtained product contain white, brown and green impurities that don’t dissolve in any of the following solvents: HCl, Methanol, Ethanol, and deionized water
So, how could we purify the polymer from these impurities?
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I don't know why you want to polymerize Aniline and pryrrole together, but ok. I assume a copolymer will not be formed but just a mixture of PAni and PPy in form of particular agglomerates.
If I were you, I would not try to clean the mess you had cooked there, but do the experiment again: you should add the oxidant very slowly and make sure the temperature does not rise during oxidant addition, so you add it dropwise and wait.
Especially after the first 2, 3 drops, you need to wait so that you can see the polymerisation starts. After it has started, then you add more drops, one after the other, and slowly.
Then let us know how the result looks like in contrast to what you showed here.
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Industrial scale applications of metallic SWCNTs
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Another good use of metallic single walled carbon nanotubes in Transparent conducing electrodes.
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My advice is to search for  general references that give information about carbon tetrachloride first & then for specialized references about projects which used CCl4 . In many measurements (e.g. spectroscopy), we may use 2 materials one of which does not interfere with the results. 
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I m doing my project on this topic I need some recent work on this topic..
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Hi Laila,
Ok, see attached files 
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Good afternoon
In recent days, I have made a  synthesis by CV of a conducting polymer in a specific electrode. Then, the follow swep is to calculate the thickness of the film using the following equation: 
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The doubt in this expression is which charge I should to use to determinate the thickness of film using this equation?
I have think that is the charge asociate to the oxidation but i have discrepances in if is the chargue of all voltamogram or only one portion itself.
thanks for you attention
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Dear Keld,
2. Could you please precise how we can determine gamma from CV curve? Is it the ratio between the charge during first oxidation of monomer and the charge during the first reduction of polymer?
Thank you,
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Looking for a suitable polymer type material to coat flexible fuel lines for an under sea fuel delivery system.   
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Let me know what some of the issues are and I may have some other answers...  For example, on a totally different project we once incorporated magnesium powder into a polymer for electroactivity - if your hoses are metal and corroding, the magnesium would corrode sacrificially. 
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We pretend to use 3-4-dymethylpyrrole as a monomer for conducting polymer. Nevertheless, we haven´t found any reference, concerning its synthesis and(or) polymerization. Do you have any suggestions concerning its synthesis?
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many paper could be referred:
(1) Synthesis and michael reaction of 3, 4-dimethylpyrrole. Journal of Heterocyclic Chemistry, 1976, 13(5): 1145-114
(2) Syntheses of 3, 4-Dimethylpyrrole. Bulletin of the Chemical Society of Japan, 1976, 49(4): 1157-1158
(3) Intercalative polymerization of 3-methyl-and 3, 4-dimethylpyrrole in the VOPO4 interlayer space. Chemistry letters, 1993, 22(1): 31-34
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Especially in systems where organic molecules act as donor and carbon nanomaterials act as acceptor.If the organic molecule is fluorescent, how the current /conductance modulation in nanomaterial get influenced.
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As an example if the donor system is pyrene molecule and acceptor is graphene what can be the influence of pyrene over the conductance of graphene especially under uv light.
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like with polyaniline doped with acids
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Dear Mohamed;
this attached file gives an exemple on the influence of pH on the Zeta potential. Regards
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As I was preparing the electrode for lithium ion battery,  I tried taking 70% active material (70mg) ,20%(20mg) pvdf binder (20mg/20ml) ,10%(10mg) carbon black as conducting additive. I kept it for dissolution for 8-10hours but still proper dissolution isn't done. 
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The ratio between solid and liquid for slurry casting majorly depends on the thickness of the film you want to cast, higher solid content leads to higher viscosity and you will be able to cast thicker film. Usually, the solid content will below 50 wt%. However, for your case, the solid content is ~100/120, way to high, so you'd better add more NMP and this could be the reason for your non-dissolving problem. If this is just your first several trails, I suggest you to start with low solid concentration, such as 20 wt%, then during mixing, gradually evaporate the extra NMP, monitor the viscosity of the slurry, find the best ratio for your casting. If you still want to keep a low solvent concentration, you'd better mix PVDF/NMP first, in a heated atmosphere, to obtain a clear solution.
Here's a good literature for you to read: Adv. Energy Mater. 2016, 1600655
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I want to calculate the theoretical conductivity of levodopa molecules @pH=7. How can I do that? Please suggest me some procedure. 
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Please help me to study the transport properties of ionic liquid doped polymer electrolyte
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Dear Tihomir Nikolaev Tsanov
I am not clear about transport characterization. When I uploaded my paper to membrane science they told me to do it. I think it will be electric properties or ionic conductivity. Since it is ionic conducting in nature.
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I want to synthesize polyaniline from anilne. I have read that aniline needs to be distilled before being used in the polymerization process. How do I get distilled aniline from aniline
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Dear Rahul,
Distil aniline with a water steam - it forms hetero-azeotrop containing 19,2 % of aniline that boils at 98.7 °C. Aniline containing dissolved water is obtained from distillate by decantation since it forms sepaprate phase.     For polymerization, you do not need to dry so obtained aniline, because polymerization is carried out in aqueous environment. You only take into account that, at 25 °C, equilibrium content of water in aniline is 4,76 weight % !
Best regards, J.V.
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We want to protonate the polyaniline with CSA for gas sensor. I would like to know that what is the best ratio of CSA/ polyaniline for better protonation of polyaniline as a gas sensor?
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1:1 would be a 100% excess doping; in PAni, every 2nd monomer unit can accept a proton, so acid:monomer unit ratio should be 0.5:1
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I have polyaniline (Emeraldine salt; >15.000Mw), I would like to know, if somebody can recommend me a way to disperse it. For a sensor application then.
Many Thanks
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¡Muchas gracias Carlos!
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What is the best conductive EO/Li ratio in PEO based electrolye?
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I have a new idea toward molecular electronics 
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Recently, the conducting polymers are grafted onto another one. so, it is possible to prepare a polymeric structures for these purpose.
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What are the possibilities of measuring whether the material is more or less "p-type"? (for example conducting polymer and reduced graphene oxide and the composite)
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Dear Dunst, 
Hall measurement is the best and versatile tool for meausring the p type and n type.
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Conducting polymers like Poly aniline shows a dispersion in conductivity when the frequency is changed.what is the reason for this dispersion in conductivity?similarly there is a dispersion in the case of permittivity as well.Can anyone please suggest the reason for the dispersion of these intrinsic parameters ?
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Dear Neeraj,
next refference can help you:
The study of charge carrier kinetics in semiconductors by microwave conductivity measurements 
j. appl. phys. 60 (10) (1986) 3558
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I know that the measurement involves measuring the onset of photopotential. Does this involve just measuring a voltage when light hits the electrode and measuring the voltage against a reference?
Can this be done for a nanoparticle? Can the valence/conduction band of a nanoparticle in a solvent be measured?
EDIT: To clarify, I am talking about band bending not a change of the size of the bandgap but a change of the valence/conduction band.
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Hey Alexander,
This link may help for a basic primer. I'm not clear on exactly what you're asking about... Are you referring to an actual modification to the bandgap width or are you possibly referring to band-bending inside the SC as a result of equilibration with solution potential? OR are you asking about a stable bandgap that shifts relative energy positions as a result of solution contacting?
Solution and solute induced dipoles can certainly modify near surface bandgap values. Additionally, solvent (or rather just environmental) changes can also cause surface level atomic re-arrangement that changes the local crystal structure and concurrently modifies Evalues by disrupting the atomic arrangement of the SC.
Best, and good luck!
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I had some PEDOT:PSS dispersed in water freeze and thaw, resulting in large PEDOT:PSS beads that do not pass through a 0.45 micron PTFE syringe filter. Is there a simple method to break up these aggomerations to a workable size for spin coating? Is it advisable to sonicate the dispersion at warm temperature?
Thanks
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If it freezes you will have issues re-dispersing it no matter what.
Sonication and/or heating might help a little but not much. Normally I would put my vial of solution under running warm water to get back to room temp before spin coating and it works fine. Once your vial is sealed your concentration will not change appreciably and PEDOT:PSS is stable to about 200degC.
Good luck.
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I am trying to fabricate a carbon black (Ketjenblack EC-300J - AkzoNobel) doped narrow width silicone (Sylgard 184) film but the film develops cracks (as seen in attached image) as it begins to cure at room temperature. What might be causing the cracking of this conducting layer?
If you need any more details about the process in order to answer this question then please let me know.
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You have a point but we have achieved this before so let us see. I will share the experimental results here.