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I see some researchers doing some isolation of already known and available compounds!
Does this isolation still meaningful?
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Dear Alexander, I would never do a mee too job. If you go commercial one has to invest substantial sums and somebody has to provide and invest the required funds. Nobody will invest if he can't get a reasonable return on money invested. On the other hand on everything we do we can add value so that all project participants can earn some money in various forms. To add value one requires intelligence and trustworthy partners. Unfortunately, this topic is never discussed in Universities. In a competitive world value creation is the most important aspect for everybody that wants to survive in research. What is important is also important is to create circular economies to create sustainability and multilateral trade to spread the wealth. This issue is particularly important in emerging economies.
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For an adoptive transfer would like to isolate CD8 T cells that express granzyme K and EOMES from the spleen. Is it possible to first isolate CD8 T cells with an isolation kit, followed by the use of antibodies for granzyme K and EOMES?
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If you're worried about antibodies sticking to your cells after isolation, I can recommend the Fab-TACS® system. Instead of high affinity antibodies, low affinity Fab fragments are used to positively select cells. They completely dissociate from the surface after isolation, so you don't have to worry about antibodies remaining on your cells. You can check out the products here:
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I have to isolate and then properly purify some of azo pigment compounds.
i have done TLC and column chromatography of these pigments but ending up with the seperation of thier isomers only.
i believe that my pigment compounds still have some side products and impurities that i am unable to separate out.
suggestions required for highly efficient isolation and purification of the following pigment compounds attached.
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As Jack stated, your Rf value are to high to expect a separation. You will have to adjust the polarity of your mobile phase
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My study involves establishing chronic nicotine addiction in mice and I would to check the cotinine level in mice urine using HPLC but currently protocols I found are done using human urine. Bioassays and GC are expensive, and I would like to use urine as the sample. Thus, how do I modify the HPLC protocol for mice urine?
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I have no practical experience, however, I hope the provided link will be very much helpful for you. Please have a look on the following link:
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Greetings,
May someone make a suggestion where I can get the standard of carpaine compound (usually extracted from the carica papaya) for my HPLC study? Thanks
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Thank you so much all of you. I have received a few quotation for the item with the recommendation provided. Thanks a lot!
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Hi every one,
In drinking mineral water treatment we just check the water micro biologically for Ecoli, fecal coliform, Total coliform and TVC, and some times Pseudomonas.
How we detect viruses in water?
how to isolate viruses from water?
How to Characterize them?
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In case of virus detection in drinking water there are several steps to consider. However, this is basically depend on your objective/objectives.
A. Concentration (the number of virus or viral parts is lower in drinking water since it is treated). There are several concentration methods.
a. Filtration method (acid-alkaline method with charged membrane filter). this is a well established method.
b. there are other concentration methods
B. Analysis, usually PCR based methods to detect viral genome. You need to consider DNA virus or RNA virus. Then the processes has some modifications.
(viral genome detection by reverse transcription-PCR)
(this analysis process has several steps, re concentration, purification, extraction etc.).
C. Interpretation of your results.
The characterization is basically the genetic structure of virus (i.e. DNA Vs RNA virus). may be as human pathogen etc. as well.
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I am planning to isolate certain compounds from plants. Will you please give me possible factors that I should consider before proceeding to work. Thank you for your response. 
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type of compounds
polarity of compounds
quintity of compounds
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I would like to know the procedure for isolation,purification and characterisation of bio active compounds from plant extract.I have to isolate the major consitutent of my sample.
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By using the HPLC, TLC, column,
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I am working on the isolation and identification of flavonoids. I have different fractions of ethyl acetate extract of a plant. I got those fractions after doing chromatography on silica gel. The second fraction is a yellowish powder. It is to some extent soluble in methanol but it is more soluble in chloroform and ethyl acetate. It is not 100% soluble in either of the above solvents. I took the dissolved portion of the extract in ethylacetate, and did tlc on silica gel (chloroform and ethyl acetate (9:1) as solvent system). It showed three spots. I am now in a dilemma about how to proceed for isolation. If I do silica then I need to apply the sample in dry form as the sample is not 100% soluble in the solvents I do have. Could anybody suggest a better alternative for the isolation?
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You can make a sub fraction by silica column, using a less powerful mobile phase toward the extract components
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We are investigating the effects of plant extracts on human cancer cells. For one of our projects,  we want to isolate a certain compound from the extract. We are looking for researchers who could help us with the isolation step. We are willing to work together for this part of the project. If you know a researcher/team or you are one of them, would you kindly help us on the matter?
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I fractionated an extract of plant and I took 15mg in 20ml solvent of a fraction and injected to HPLC, got a sharp peak with good resolution,
and I injected a standard compound of concentration 5mg/10ml got the same sharp peak and the same RT
I need to calculated the concentration of the compound that matched the same peak of the Std.
I used the equation conc. of sample = [Area sample/Area Std ] * conc. of Std and according to that equation the calculation showed to be
[16957864/171987]*0.5 = 49.3 mg/ml .. I am not sure if this is correct or not ?
please any confirmation for this calculations ? any comments and suggestions ?
I am confused about this results
I got the equation from this link
Thank you for your help
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Relying on a standard curve operating through a set of concentrations, a pre-prepared standard compound
With this device the curve can be made using concentrations against the area under the curve of the standard compound
In this way, when injecting a known volume of the extract containing this compound, it is possible through an area under the curve to determine the concentration using the equation of the straight line
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i have work on pure compound isolation of different phyto-chemicals, i need different solvent system for hit and trial methods?
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DearThe mobile phase is determined by the components to be examined The mobile phase of phenols is different, for example, from alkaloids and fats This is why sometimes several mobile phases of solvents are used with different volumetric ratios and placed in small containers, in principle, to examine small sheets of TLC ..... to obtain a clear separation of the compounds to be separated.
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I was performing fractionation for a plant extract, i was perplexed by the answers i found on the internet as "denser solvent is the lower portion" .
however, another answered the separation is done based on the molecular weight, in this case chloroform is the lower portion.
Can anyone confirm this? your help will be appreciated, Thank you
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Yes, certainly chloroform is denser than water
If you want to make sure, put colored water with chloroform in the simplest experiment to determine which is more dense
The methanol is less dense and mixed with water
It also mixes with chloroform, so when applying alkaloids purification as an example of an alcohol methanol extract
When applying chloroform, two layers do not appear clear even after changing the acidity of the extract
This is why sometimes we have to add water to reduce the mixing of methanol with chloroform........................This view is through experiences
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Dear all, Good day, currently I am practicing extracting total DNA using different fungi. My main purpose is to extract total DNA and send the extracted DNA for 16S Amplicon sequencing (ITS-1 and ITS-4)
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Dear all,
Recently I started collaborating with a chemistry group to synthesize a sugar derivative with isobutyric acid sticking out. The synthesis went well, however the final product has a huge amount of lithium acetate (10:1 Li ac:sugar).
This makes my enzymatic work impossible.
Does anyone know any method by which we could remove LiAc from the solution?
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the compound is soluble in both water and ethanol
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Try using a zeolite resin. It works for removing Sodium in water OR you can try 'reverse osmosis'. Follow was Waters or other water suppliers use.
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I will isolate cyanidin compounds from local fruits. we try to get pure cyanidin which is free from the 3-glucoside chain. if you have the right and effective method to get this compound, please share with us.
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In my experience, anthocyanidins should be concentrated/separated by using Sephadex LH-20. A well-designed method for preparative RP-HPLC will be helpful for the isolation of compounds. I suggest you contact Dr. Jorge E. Wong-Paz , he is experienced in the purification of procyanidins.
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Hi, I'm on research in developing inhibitor of virus enzyme from natural chemical compounds with molecular docking and molecular dynamics. Finally, the result is that there are few chemical compounds that have potential activity to inhibit the enzyme. i want to examine the inhibitory activity from that chemical compound through in vitro assay to complete my research. where is the place to buy natural chemical compounds that has been isolated? For example the chemical compound is Nigellidine from Nigella Sativa, I want to buy the isolated compound. I choose to buy, because I need the chemical compound as soon as possible. Any suggestion can help
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I need some information that can help me to design my experiment. the first thing i want to know is that there is any membrane that can permeate just organic compound from bulk liquid, or any selective membrane for organic compound that can permeate from bulk liquid.
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The molecular weights of citrate and acetate are not high. They might permeate out from the bulk liquid. However, selection of membranes depends also on the properties and molecular weight of stuff in the bulk phase. In addition, these two substances are organic acid, so the possibility of corrosion to the surface materials of the membrane must be considered.
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The synthesis of sulfated compounds is intricate to achieve and percentage yield of the product is low. The reaction leads to formation of many conjugates thereby making it difficult to isolate sulfated compound from the reaction mixture. Moreover most of sulfated compounds are water soluble compounds, therefore to purify these compounds becomes very difficult. What are the different ways to purify sulfated compounds other then RP-HPLC?
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Dialysis should work. If it is high molecular weight compound you can use designer solvents which are selective in action like supercritical fluids or ionic liquids.
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I used ethylacetate but yield was very less please suggest me what solvent system i can use for extraction. 
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Extract with MIBK solvent
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I am running ethyl acetate extract on silica gel column using hexane and ethyl acetate as mobile phase ( by stepwise-gradient increase of polarity). When the compound elutes, I run in the same polarity until that compound disappears (or completely eluted out). When I increase the polarity, new compound elutes out along with the previous compound ( or even two compounds previous to that) yielding mixtures. How to overcome this problem?
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I would start with a special cocktail my colleague has affectionately named Polar Express (shout-out Brennan). Like EtOAc/hexane, you have a polar and nonpolar portion for the mobile phase. But for Polar Express, your polar portion is a three solvent mix (EtOAc:EtOH:AcOH {3:1:2%}) and your nonpolar portion is hexane or heptane. I have found this to be very effective at purifying acidic compounds. Evan better than DCM:MeOH:AcOH. Please see figure two of Green Chem., 2014, 16, 4060–4075 (DOI: 10.1039/c4gc00615a). 
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I'm looking a method for crystallization in hexane extracts for purification of high molecular weigh compounds like sterols...
Thank you in advance!!
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Thank you very much to all your recommendations!!!
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I have got 2 pure compounds both 0.8mg. One is a white powder-like substance while the other is clear and gooey-like. I had isolated them using HPLC and wanted to know if they can be analysed by NMR even though their masses are quite low. Both are able to dissolve in MeOH.
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Dear Mr. Sinclair,
if your compounds are uniform it should be possible to do some NMR experiments on them using a sensitive spectrometer, e. g. one with a cryo probehead. You could obtain one-dimensional 1H-NMR spectra without problems and also, by indirect detection, two-dimensional heteronuclear correlated spectra like 1H,13C-HSQC or -HMBC spectra. If possible, one should not use (deuterated) methanol as the solvent because one would lose information on the presence of exchangeable protons (OH, NH, SH).
Best wishes.
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Any suggestions please? 
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Dear Gloria,
The yellow spot on your TLC can be attributed to no of classes of compounds to name a few there are xanthophylls, carotenoids, xanthones, quinones, flavonoids, anthocyanins etc. The can be segregated based on their solubility and polarity. eg, Carotenoids are soluble in hexane, ether but falvonoids and anthocyanins are not. You can alternatively use a reagent called as NP-PEG Reagent (2-Aminoethyl diphen ylborinate)to derivitize your TLC  Plate which will give you a characteristic colour and help in identification of the band. You can alternatively subject the extract to different phytochemical test to identify the class of phytoconstituents
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Anyone has a guide book etc in which the identified fungal secondary metabolites characterized by chromatography, MS, NMR etc. Please, I very need it.
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I am testing estrogen in plant leaves. For color removal, I am trying GCB contained column but afraid maybe estrogen will retained in this column. Is there anyone suggest me best chemical for elution.
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Carbon will retain estrogen from aqueous samples, but you should be able to elute it off of the carbon. You might have to use toluene to get it off if you can't get it to come off in acetonitrile or methanol.
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I will isolate of growth factors from product metabolite human mesenchymal stem cell.
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The scale (prep vs semi-prep) of your purification is dependent upon the concentration/volume of your harvest. The scale is typically determined empirically with your protein of interest. First perform a loading study on an analytical column. I would start with a TFA ion-pair in the aqueous buffer (0.1%) and ACN as  the organic modifier. A C8 stationary phase is appropriate for this size protein but many choices exist. Use an appropriate pre-established method to purify ~250ug of protein. Characterize the recovery and purity of your target. The acceptance criteria for each step is used to decide whether the loading should be increased or decreased. This loading along  g with the concentration will determine whether a 10mm column or 20 mm column is required. You can use the column proportions to scale the 250ug loading to the 10 or 20 mm column. Best of Luck
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I need to quantify the alkaloid, so it needs to be separated from the liquid medium.or can we quantify the medium as such..
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I try to establish a GC-FAIMS method for different volatile substances.
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GC provides retention time as the first measurment result, followed by FAIMS (= Field Asymetric Ion Mobility spectrometry) for compensation voltage as the second measurement result and inlc. Faraday contact plate for ion counts as the third measurement result.
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Hi, I am working on isolation of Phenolic compounds form plant extract. I need polyamide for the fractionation and isolation of phenolics. Please suggest any supplier who can spare the polyamide as a Gift sample.
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Thank you sir
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what is the best method to reduce sample loss during purification process?I did column by using silica gel to remove unwanted compound. but, the yield of the compound is about 30% of the starting material. 
is there any suggestion for the purification process rather than by using silica gel column chromatography (solid phase extraction) to reduce the loss of target compound. 
my compound is extracted from the natural product.
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Re-crystallization is a method other than column chromatography to purify compound. For this, You have to remember the solvent in which your compound should be soluble not impurity.
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how to remove residual peaks of solvent from NMR ?
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It depends on which solvents you are dealing with. For lower boiling solvents like ethyl acetate, ether, hexanes and acetone, etc. using a roto-vap followed by several hours on a high-vac should be sufficient to remove these solvents.
For higher boiling solvents, especially ones that have a higher boiling point than water, you will likely need to azeotrope it with several rounds of an appropriate, lower boiling solvent, and then remove the low boiling solvent as mentioned above.
You can find lists of azeotropes on wikipedia and elsewhere. 
Hope this helps.
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I have synthesized two different compounds. However, what a coincident both nmr spectrum showed an unknown peak (singlet, very intense) at the region of 2.4 - 2.6 ppm in proton nmr, 28 - 30 ppm in carbon NMR which doesn't belong to my synthesized compounds, solvent impurities or catalyst been used. i have checked through the list of solvent impurities as well but still unable to figure out what is that. 
Both compounds purified using column chromatography. Solvent system used is hexane, dcm and methanol.  
Anyone of you have encountered before or do you have any idea about it? i will be much appreciated for your precious opinions.  
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It could come from hexane. If you use distilled hexane, you can avoid those peaks. It is very usual peaks at 28-30 ppm in 13C, from hexane belong to some petroleum product. Give a one try to use all distilled solvents for extraction and column purification.
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We are working on characterization and pharmacological activities of Plant Extract and compound material against Leishmania Tropica (Cutaneous Leishmaniasis). Now, we want to proceed this work via Joint work project to do Antileishmanial activities of compounds isolated from natural resources, like Lawsonia inermis etc If someone is interested in doing Joint research work, then please let me know.
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Thanks Guillermo R. Labadie for your prompt response.
I analyzed antileishmanial activities of Lawsonia inermis, Morus Nigra, Ziziphus muaritiana, Azadirachta indica, Curcuma longa, Glycyrrhiza Glabra, Cassia fistula, Aloe vera and some other plant extracts with different methodologies (Article are published). Out of these, Lawsonia Inermis possess potent antileishmanial activiites. I did characterization of Lawsonia inermis fraction via hyphenated HPLC-HRMS-SPE-NMR technique coupled with Semi-high resolution Antileishmanial assay at Department of Drug Design and Pharmacology, University of Copenhagen, Denmark under the supervision of Prof. Dan Staerk (My article is under press). We isolated flavones reported that these are antileishmanial agents. 
My focus for Antileishmanial compound activities is Flavones/Phenols especially Antioxidant and anti-inflammatory compound. But New lead compounds under the category of Phenols are my priority. I have plan to analyzed Antileishmanial and cytotoxic activities of New lead compounds. If you are interested in collaborating in same way or in different, then most welcome.  
I have limited space and facilities for in vitro, in vivo and cytotoxic activities of compounds. I want to do Joint research work.
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Hi there,
I need some opinion. I've conducted my research project using bioassay- guided method. Out of three sample crude extract I've used, only two of them showed an activity. I've further fractionated the two of it using packed column. Unfortunately, none of the fraction showed any activity. What I can conclude is that the activity happens because of the synergistic interaction between phytochemical present in crude. Do I still need to isolate those compound? Or should I just proceed to identify what compound contain in each fraction using NMR perhaps? For the information, I did screening those fraction using TLC and in each fraction, there were one or two spots developed under UV 365 nm.
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Thank you for all the opinion. I'll try to check back my extraction method. =)... there must be some point that I missed out.
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What is the best method for protease enzyme isolation from some fruit juices?
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I agree with all answers above ...good luck.
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Is there any other source to obtain carnosic acid(rosmary extract) except Sigma Aldirsh?
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You can easily obtain it from the Rosmary extract by using anion exchanger. If you want, I can find the method for you.
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Is there anyone who can suggest me about isolation and purification of a specific compound. After running a column (solvent Ethyl acetate), I am getting a lot of compound in the same fraction. If i want to ZERO down on a specific mass, Is there anyone who can help me to know "HOW TO PURIFY that specific spot". 
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You can do TLC with different solvent system for first better resolution with good difference in Rf value and also confirm wheather UV active or not. Followed by go ahead for Preparative TLC with same solvent system that giving best resolution as well as distingushible Rf value. then start scratching your desired band definitely you will mark it under UV if UV sensitive. then you can collection your compound by redesolving the silica with your selected solvent system.Then go for Mass, HPLC and NMR.
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I am preparing a text for students.Thanks.
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Dictionary of Natural Products, compiled by Chapman & Hall, is a comprehensive database on natural products and there are 2,81,897 entries as of now. Please note that the data includes compounds derived from microbes and animal origin, in addition to plants. If you are specifically looking for phytochemicals, in my assessment, the number of phytochemicals may be nearly 2,00,000 (by the simple logic that majority of the natural products out of the total 2,81,897 entries in DNP comes from plants).
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Dear All,
The compounds I am working with are highly hydrophobic, containing  long hydrocarbon chains, neutral and the only functional group was derivatised with Fmoc amino acid. I am trying to develop a RP method using C18 column. The compounds are strongly retained on C18, are not eluted with 100% MeOH or ACN, and can be eluted with 50% IPA in MeOH or 30% EthAcet in MeOH. The problem is that I am not getting any separation between the samples components most likely due to their highly similar structure. Very long and shallow gradients are not effective nor addition of water. I also tried CN, Amide, and PFP column chemistries with no luck although the C18-PFP column showed some promise but nowhere near to acceptable resolution. I have not tried the C8 yet, however I am somewhat reluctant due to possibility of lesser retention due to shorter chains of the stationary phase. I would welcome any ideas or a good discussion.
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Thank you for your answer. I meant an analytical separation not a fractionation or product purification. We have successfully separated other lipids, including sterols, n-alkanols, using RP-HPLC on a C18 column. This, however required using methanol-ethyl acetate as the organic mobile phase. Currently the compounds we are working with are much larger approx 2500-3000 Da and highly hydrophobic. We attempted water-methanol-dichloromethane mobile phase but we found miscibility problems at higher proportions of dichloromethane to water causing considerable retention times fluctuations. Hence, I wanted to ask for suggestions from anyone who may have experience in separations of compounds with similar properties.
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I am curious on how to determine the percent impurity of an isolated unknown compound without using any standard. Could experts please share your ideas and experiences in this regard?
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Hi, I will share what we have done in our Lab., Usually we used HPLC-DAD (for UV active compound), from the HPLC chromatogram we will have the peak of our target compound (main peak) and some small peaks of the possible impurities; so by comparing the area  of the main peak and total peak areas of the impurities we can estimate % of purity. Before calculating % impurities, I think you should do peak purity check of each peaks (mean peak and all possible small impurities peaks) We did also using TLC scanner without detecting reagent, or with reagent (for non absorbing UV compound) and did same thing as HPLC. Best regards
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Anybody has any idea about this retrosynthetic analysis of this compound?
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I would start with a substituted pyridine ring - it's aromatic and thus should be a stable building block in a longer synthesis such as this.
Some types of Bönnemann cyclizations can create pyridine-rings with a variety of -R groups Ortho and Para to the ring Nitrogen.  After that you only need to add one more C-C bond meta to the ring nitrogen to provide most of the framework for the product.
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I need guidelines for the isolation of bioactive compounds from fish. 
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Thanks for the articles. I have got the 1st one. Please send me the 2nd article.
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I have isolated a compound. As i isolated through silica gel column, it its was crystalline suggested me that its pure latter on it turned amorphous when i checked via TLC showed me 4 bands mixed together. suggest me how i can separate them to get pure compound? quantity approx 55mg
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Try using diethylether:hexane 1:1 as the TLC solvent and see if the bands resolve.
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I prepared new transition metal complexes and i need for free XRD software for pc to analyze the new compounds (unknown) to give many parameters such as the structures, unit cell, lattice parameters, miller constants and other. 
Thank you all
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you can find all what you need In software section
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what is the best source (book or internet source) to classify different type of given compounds? like we have certain number of compound names and we put a compound name directly to the source and it gives the exact clas for the specified name?
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Dear Researcher
Agree to Mathipi. Please visit https://www.rsc.org/Merck-Index/
It is online Merck Index. You can find here!
Good luck
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How to find the best compatible carrier for such a compound.
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It actually varies case to case. Can you share exactly which is your molecule of interest?
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There are tens of volatile aromatic compounds isolated from Artemisia vulgaris but I do not clearly know which one or ones  are the main aroma attribute's of the common mugwort. If some one knows about it pleas help me. Thanks. 
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Hello Sayed,
The most likely candidates for generating odors in plants are esters and terpenes. While other compounds provide very distinct odors (for example, dimethyl disulphide, trimethylamine and isovaleric acid in Amorphophallus titanum), mugwort odor is more pleasant and is composed of isobornyl isobutyrate (balsamic odor), beta-pinene (woody pine), limonene (oranges), carene, alpha-pinene (green pine), turpinene and rose-oxide (grassy rose). Of course, there will be some odor contributions from sesquiterpenes, such as caryophyllene (woody note), as well.
See the attached items for more information.
I hope that this helps,
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I put my reduction reaction in the presence of pd/C, h2S04 in methanol. Actually my starting compound contains free NH and dione group. My aim is reduce that dione group. After completion of my reaction, filtered the catalyst and vacue the fitrate to get brown gel type residue.Then i washed with ethyl acetate and recrtaliized by acetone. after recrystalization i got white solid compound. But, i hope that is in the salt form. how to get my compound as free base.
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I agree with Dr. Jack
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Which one is best for CV studies of metal complexes with same type of Aromatic ligand environment.
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CV shows redox behavior of the metal complexes as well as ligands. Although Zn(II) is redox inactive while other 3d metals such as Ni(II), Cu(II), Co(II) show variable oxidation state and reveal good CV curve either in reduction or oxidation window. Further the ligands also affect their redox properties.
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I have encountered an compound which turns red when dissolved in DCM and turns to yellow when dissolved in methanol. What can be the nature of the compound.
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Teodoro S Kaufman has the full truth. In addition DCM is weakly polar aprotic solvent while methanol is protic polar (acidic) solvent. In the DCM the compound can generate associates e. g. CT-complexes or probably by intermolecular H-bonds - in MeOH donating groups are solvated by MeOH. Next data are necessery.
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Is there any reliable institute that analyse the extract for isolation and characterization of bioactives? I have found chloroform fraction (through kupchan protocol) of plant the most toxic one against seed germination and seedling growth in four weeds in wheat crop. Now I want to point out the toxic compounds in that fraction. What are different possibilities for me for analysis of my sample?
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You can do this work easily at HEJ Karachi, PCSIR Lahore or MBC,PCSIR Peshawar Labs.
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To perform any bio-assay with different organic fractions of a plant part, mostly methanol crude extract is partitioned with different solvents in increasing order of polarity using a separating funnel, is not it better to extract the tissue separately with all solvents? If you have availability of plant in excess, what protocol should be preferred? 
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For the solvent-solvent partition for natural extracts we normally use "Kupchan" method of partitioning. Begins with the extract dissolving MeOH:H2O (9:1) solvent system then add equal amount of hexane. After hexane partitioning increase the polarity of the original mixture in to MeOH:H2O (6:4) then extract with CHCl3. Then evaporate all included MeOH using Rotary evaporator and finally add the EtOAc in to the remaining water layer. This is a modified version of the kupchan method. you will have 4 fractions (hexane, CHCl3,EtOAc and water)
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I want to isolate plant constituents using paper chromatography. Is i need to use different types of paper for different constituents. kindly suggest me  the type of commercial whatman papers available for paper chromatography with use? 
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Dear vines,
There are two types: Whatman No. 1 for identification (not for isolation) and Whatman No. 3 for preparative and isolation.
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i m working on osteoarthritis, i want to isolate the active compound which is responsible for preventing arthritis
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The brief steps are:
First of all you have prepared plant extracts using solvents of various polarity. then isolate the pure fraction from plant extracts using following techniques. First run TLC to know the type of fractions. After that Column Chromatography with HPLC, after isolated pure fraction run FT-IR, LC-MS, HNMR, CNMR for structure elucidation. You can read my papers
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I have tested different organic fractions of crude methanol extract of Parthenium hysterophorus leaves. Ethyl acetate fraction showed highest toxic activity. Now I would like to find out the most toxic compound form this fraction. I have LC-MS, FT-IR and TLC in access. What sequence should I adopt to identify and quantify the responsible compound?
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Run TLC to determine a solvent system that appears to give the best separation of your compounds. Then try to separate all the compound in preparative chromatography. Then collect each band and tried it for your activity. You may get some conclusion on toxic compound.
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LC-MS or FT-IR or both in combination?
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Both in combination since they supply complementary information; also data from instrument one can confirm data from the other.
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If some one wants to check certain activity, say for example antimicrobial, for 4 or 5 different plants with aim to perform chemical characterization for plant showing highest activity, is this necessary to check all organic fractions (methanol, ethyl acetate, n-hexane, chloroform etc.) for the same activity or plant can be selected based on activity shown by initially prepared methanol extract?
I found a lot of literature in which researchers prepared all organic fractions of different parts (leaves, roots, fruits etc.) for all interested species (3, 4 or 5) and then selected single fraction for compound isolation. On contrary few papers represent methodology in which single plant was selected for detailed analysis based on activity shown by methanol extract for different parts (leaves, roots, fruits etc.) of different species (say for example 4). Methanol extract showing highest activity is then selected for fractionation and sub fraction with highest activity is chemically analyzed?
I think the second method is more time consuming and economic. Being an expert what do you suggest? 
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The methanol-dichloromethane(1:1) crude extract of different parts of each plant should be tested separately. Then the crude extract of the part of a specific plant that shows the highest activity should be given priority for fractionation.
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HI,
  We are purifying the antibacterial compounds produced by one bacillus strains. we have successfully purified all compounds that are assumed to be produced by that strains as a single peak and confirmed by Mass spectroscopy. But there are still two peaks with unknown compounds that showed antibacterial activity. We are not able to further purify those peaks as MS analysis shows that these peaks are comprised of more than one compound. Would you please help me or suggest me to use other techniques to purify these peaks. We are using Grace Vydac C18 238TP52 (5 μm) column and tried many elution conditions and some other similar kinds of columns but these compounds still elute as a single peak.
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I note you are using C18. Things you can try include:
  1. Changing the C18 organic solvent as it may change the "selectivity" for the compounds
  2. Try a normal phase method, as indicated above. If the compounds are very polar, consider a HILIC column. This is essentially normal phase, but using polar solvents such as acetonitrile and water or methanol and water. Columns useful for this method include diol, silica, amino bonded phases as well as alumina. If the compounds are non-polar, you may use these bonded phases with typical normal phase solvents such as hexane/ethyl acetate, dichloromethane/methanol, and so forth.
  3. Depending on the polarity of your compounds, you can also try reverse phase with diol or amine bonded phases. These sometimes act as reverse phase columns when run with greater than 50% water in my experience.
  4. Run regular reverse phase, but with a polymeric reverse phase column as the interaction with the column may be different from that with C18.
In all cases, we are changing conditions to cause the compounds to possibly interact differently with the column or solvent and hopefully resolve them. 
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I have isolated an antifungal compound isolated from lactic acid bacteria. I have carried out LC-MS and there I got 11 peaks with different m/z values. Can any one help me how to intrepret the results??? (Its a crude sample)
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To determine the identify of a compound, you need more than LC/MS.You need to purify the compounds and use many tools to look at the molecule such as NMR, IR, and LC/MS. LC/MS can tell you that what is the molecular weight (1 amu resolution with the quad type, but higher resolution for the ToF. Let say you saw a peak that you think it may have molecular weight of 200 (m/z = 201 in pos mode), you will find that there are lots of compound with molecular weight of  200. 90% of the work by LC/MS (quad type) is for target compound analysis (you know what you are looking for).
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I would like to analyse CO using a mass spec however I do have CO2 gas present. So I'm interested in efficient and reliable CO2 filters that eliminate CO2 without affecting CO. Other suggestions are also welcomed. 
Thank you!
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After having surveyed literature to the best of my ability, I , humbly, propose two references for your perusal.
[A]CO2(g) adsorbs while CO(g) leaves:
Reference:
Microporous and Mesoporous Materials
Volume 156, 1 July 2012, Pages 217–223
Pls. find its resume as:
For a specified purity of CO2 exiting the packed bed adsorber, the best CO2 removal performance is obtained with CuBTC.
[B] CO(g) adsorbs while CO2(g) leaves:
Reference:
Adsorption
1997, Volume 3, Issue 1, pp 27-32
Pls. find its resume as:
Although zeolites such as NaY and 13X adsorb CO2 much more than CO, the adsorption amount of CO2 and CO can be reversed if the zeolites are modified with CuCl. When zeolite NaY or 13X is mixed with CuCl and heated, high CO adsorption selectivity and capacity can be obtained.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Using the adsorbent, a single-stage 4 beds PSA process, working at 70°C and 0.4 MPa to 0.013 MPa, CAN OBTAIN CO PRODUCT WITH A PURITY>99.5% AND YIELD >85%.
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I have isolated a novel compound from fraction library and there is a slight impurity which is detected using LC/MS analysis, where a small ion peak is detected besides the molecular ion peak. Thus, I am hoping to get some opinion from RG members for whether purification work should be done now or shall I proceed to NMR analysis for structural disclosure before any further purification? As such minor impurity in the main compound might not have a significant effect on NMR spectra measurement. FYI, the amount of the compound I obtained is less than 2 mg.
I would greatly appreciate for any advice, suggestions or comments. Thanks in advance. 
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Oh, and 2 mg should be plenty for NMR on a medium to high field instrument. Another point is that you are relying on LCMS to know how much impurity you have. That is very uncertain, because the LCMS response for your compound and any impurities present can vary enormously (and some impurities may not be detected at all, depending on your LC-MS method e.g. mass range, eluent polarity range, positive or negative ion mode etc.).
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We have isolated lignans and alkaloids with alpha-glucosidase activities from our labs
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Acridone alkaloids are mostly found mainly in Rutaceae and to lesser extent in Piperaceae and Simarubaceae. Acridone alkaloid, 1,3,5-trihydroxy-2,8-bis(3-methylbut-2-enyl)-10-methyl-9-acridone (1), was isolated from the stembark of Swinglea glutinosa. Fagara zanthoxyloides alkaloids are isolated from genus Fagara. Fagara tessmannii Engl. Zanthoxylum macrophyllum Oliv.
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Does molecular weight determine the size of the particle? What is the correlation between molecular weight and size of the particle? Suppose molecular weight of the compound is approximately MW 320 then what would be the size of the particle? 
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As long as you do not speak about nanodots and similar there is no relation. Particles of silica can be larger or smaller than e.g. polymer particles.
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I had a reviewers comments regarding calculation of drug dose from cell culture to mouse and then human equivalent dose. I did both in vitro and in vivo (mouse) experiments for specific single compounds isolated from bread crust. The question is: How can I calculate the equivalent dose for humans?
Thanks in advance everyone share your suggestions...    
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You can use MIRD method which stands for Medical internal radiation dosimetry.
You need to calculate the cumulative activity of each organ
see these papers
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Hello everyone,
I intend to isolate total protein from bacterial cells (in terms of both quality and quantity). My protein is basically an enzyme and hence I will be analyzing its activity. It would be a help if anyone can provide me with a manual protocol for isolation of total protein with intact activity.
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Hi, seems like you are lucky in that you can assay your enzyme throughout the purification. As for the basics of protein isolation, there are probably many texts out there for you to look at. As an introduction, I like the series of free handbooks that GE (formerly Pharmacia) offers. Yes, eventually they will direct you to their purification devices, but they also offer a great introduction with lots of references to more specific papers (link below).
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I want to study about protective effect of some compound isolated from medicinal plant on mpp induced cytotoxicity in pc12 cells. Many before studies showed that mpp+  induced cytotoxicity in this cell line but when I exposed pc12 cells with mpp ( 1mM) it is not able to induce cytotoxicity. please help me
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Dear Paik,
Thank you so much for your reply. I evaluated MPPcytotoxicity in PC12 cells by MTT. Its very good idea . I have to use  positive control.  
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Sometimes, we extract organic compounds with similar Ko/w values and structure from aqueous phase to the organic solvent, but we obtain different PF.
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Thank you, I think molar absorptivity is also affect on the UV signal of my compounds. I mean the larger the molar absorptivity, the higher the peak area(Concentration).
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In this case I especially would use THF because of the higher solubility of polar compounds in THF instead of solvents like DCM or Ethylacetate. nBuOH is a nice idea though.
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I am working on endophytic fungi.
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Go for the preparative HPLC (It uses a large column), collect the eluent of the separate peaks, separately and test them for the activity.
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I have isolated a few fatty acid derivatives recently. After taking all NMR measurement, I have assigned the planar structures but I am unsure whether these fatty acids are of novel or known compounds. I have checked through Scifinder as well, but could not find similar structures. Please advise me on this matter. I would greatly appreciate your professional advice and suggestions regarding my doubts.
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Hallo, in my opinion don't waste your time with these fatty acids as I am sure they will be known, some times you need to assign the configuration. moreover they are inactive, so you will not find an application. If you have an extract from fungi, please wash it with hexen to remove the fats and start to fractionate it with silica gel column chromatography or combi flash and concentrate on the interesting fraction to isolate new compounds with activities.
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Major portion of shilajit is very polar.
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It is the first time I heard about shillajit, but since it is polar, I think you would try one polar organic solvent that is imiscible in water. For example, for acetic acid extraction from aqueous solutions some of the extraction agents are: acetates (ethyl , n-propyl, isopropyl) methyl -terc-butyl ether and ketones (methyl propyl and methyl terc-butyl).
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I have isolated around 10 compounds by column chromatography. The quantity is very low, all ranging from 10-25 mg. I need to get chemical characterization by using IR, MS, and NMR . The problem is that I am not sure about purity of compounds. They may be a mixture of similar kinds of compounds. I could not go for further with purification as the quantity is low. Can anyone suggest the possible way to sort out this problem?
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Just confirm the presence of a single compound in each isolate. This you can do by performing a TLC or HPTLC analysis where you will get a single spot of the isolate and your quantity will not be lost also. And if they are similar compounds (as you suspect), you can pool them together to increase the quantity.
Then as IR, NMR and MS will be done in about 10 mg. Rest you can use for a LC-MS analysis. I hope this will help you.
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I have used sucrose powder. Before doing so I have checked the conc of the protein by SDS-PAGE. To make it further concentrate, I used Dialysis tubing to keep my samples. I wash the tubing first with tap water and then lukewarm distilled water to get rid of any salt etc. Followed by tying one end with thread, and then transfer the sample followed by tying another end. Placed the tube in beaker containing sucrose powder. After few hours the volume reduced to half. I checked this in same way, but conc decreased. What could be the reason?
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Dear Ramesh,
I agree with Tomasz and Shiva about the use of centrifugal filters (amicons) and Millipore centricons. However, you have to pay attention about whether your protein is binding to the filter membrane. Same thing in your case, your protein maybe fixed to the tubing membrane and thats why you are noticing a decrease in protein concentration...
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I get lesser yields when performing LiHMDS reaction. I have a doubt how I could judge when all nBuLi converted HMDS into LiHMDS.
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And, if I am using acetonitrile: water as mobile phase under isocratic elution
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I try to understand that you're using, preparative chromatography. If so, I think the problem is not your mobile phase, one posibility is that the amount of the substance of interest in the matriíz is very low .... however if the problem is that the analyte of interest is driven by the mobile phase, you diminish the percentage of water, however if the analyte staying in the stationary phase should increase the polarity of the mobile phase by increasing the percentage of water in the mobile phase.
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It seems my compound of interest tightly bound to the Alumina column. Most of my impurities in the fraction had been eluted out but still no elution of my compound of interest even after 30% methanol in chloroform. Did anyone have an experience with Alumina column?
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Looks like your compound is a salt. If it is, then it is well known that the anion is lost to some unknown anions like Cl- (evidence from crystallography). Thus it gets stuck to the column as it is a whole new compound and has different property. So the TLC before the column and after will look different. The TLC will not show you the sticking property as the time spend on TLC is negligible compared to the column chromatography.
I have run with 50:50 (MeOH/CH2Cl2 v/v) in a similar situation. I had to put back the desired anion back again to get my desired product. In my case I used NaPF6 or NH4PF6 to turn it into a PF6 salt........may this help
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I want to separate two compounds from a mixture; one contains an amide functional group and the other contains a nitrile functional group in it.
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If you have a simple amide (RCONH2) this kind of compound should be more soluble in water than nitriles. You may try to partitioning with organic solvent. If you have a N-substituted amide this approach could not work and you should try other methods, eg chromatography
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I can use chromatography methods, such as LC (silice) or HPLC. Any suggestions?
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You need to provide more specifics here. What coelution are we talking about?
Are you already running HPLC? if do then it depends on the properties of your coeluants. You might try a different column (ion exchange/reverse phase), different mobile solvent, different temperature and flow rates, pH, etc.
Also your coeluants might be in a dynamic equilibrium.