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Greetings, esteemed academics,
I would want to question about the process of extracting DNA from the thoracic region of honey bees using CTAB. I have conducted this experiment on multiple occasions, yet I have not obtained adequate outcomes. The majority of the findings I obtain, particularly during PCR, exhibit a tacky or indistinct nature. I would want to inform about the cause of the insufficient resolution of DNA.
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The extraction of DNA from the thoracic region of honey bees using the CTAB (Cetyl Trimethylammonium Bromide) method can sometimes be challenging due to the presence of various compounds that can interfere with the DNA extraction and downstream applications like PCR.
Here are some potential reasons for the observed issues and suggestions to improve the DNA extraction and subsequent PCR results:
1. Phenolic compounds:
- Honey bees, especially the thoracic region, can contain high levels of phenolic compounds, such as flavonoids, which can co-precipitate with the DNA and inhibit enzymatic reactions like PCR.
- To address this, you can try adding a higher concentration of PVP (Polyvinylpyrrolidone) or β-mercaptoethanol to the CTAB extraction buffer to help remove these phenolic compounds.
2. Polysaccharides:
- Honey bees may also contain high levels of polysaccharides, which can co-precipitate with the DNA and lead to the observed sticky or indistinct PCR results.
- To mitigate this issue, you can try increasing the salt concentration (e.g., NaCl) in the CTAB extraction buffer or including an additional precipitation step with isopropanol or ethanol to better separate the DNA from the polysaccharides.
3. Protein contamination:
- The thoracic region of honey bees may contain high levels of proteins, which can also interfere with the DNA extraction and PCR.
- To address this, you can try increasing the proteinase K incubation time during the CTAB extraction or including an additional phenol-chloroform extraction step to remove the protein contaminants.
4. RNase treatment:
- The presence of RNA in the extracted DNA samples can also contribute to the observed issues. Consider including an RNase treatment step during the DNA extraction process to remove any RNA contaminants.
5. DNA quantification and dilution:
- Ensure that you are using the appropriate amount of DNA template in your PCR reactions. Try diluting the extracted DNA samples to find the optimal DNA concentration that works best for your PCR assay.
6. PCR optimization:
- Review and optimize your PCR conditions, such as primer design, annealing temperature, and cycling parameters, to improve the specificity and sensitivity of the PCR.
7. DNA purification:
- Consider using a commercial DNA purification kit after the CTAB extraction to further clean up the DNA and remove any residual contaminants that may be interfering with the PCR.
By addressing these potential issues, you may be able to improve the quality and purity of the extracted DNA, leading to more reliable and distinct PCR results.
Hope it helps; partial credit AI
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When I extract DNA from my sample using CTAB method, after centrifugation, many oil molecules come out, which prevents the extraction of clean DNA.
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Incubate the sample with ctAb at 37°C for 6-8 hours with minimal agitation. Alternatively, incubate with agitation on the shaker at 55°C for 30 minutes to remove fats and lipids. Then continue to use your regular isolation method.
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Hi all,
I extracted plant genomic DNA from fresh leaves using the CTAB method. Leaves were milled by grinding equipment. The picture shows running extracted DNA on the agarose gel. Picture 2 displays PCR for cas9, and picture 3 is PCR for my desired gene that I could not get any amplification for it. Previous PCR was successful for the primers, so there is no problem with primers. I am running out of ideas. What could cause this issue and any suggestions to address it?
Thank you so much in advance for your help!
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the dna is partially degraded but the fragments amplify well as proved by your working pcr. I do not see a no template control (NTC) where you amplify water instead of dna. It should be negative of course but when we see a smear of high molecular weight amplification then it looks like contamination of the reaction with pcr product. Run a NTC sample and if this produces a smear of amplified material then you will need to get rid of the contamination but first run a NTC as well as a sample then take it from there
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I have been trying to extract DNA of mushrooms but I think my CTAB protocol is not correct. Can I please get some help and a right protocol for extraction of DNA.
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Agreed with Nouh Saad
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Does the reamplification of the PCR product need any alterations in the original PCR components and procedure to get better and reliable amplicons? Also how best the issue of insufficient quantity of PCR product can be solved by reamplification?
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Re amplification must be treated with care. In early stage pcr every 10 cycles is 1000 times more product so if you use too much template or too many cycles the amplimer will self anneal and form smears of lonmers. I would use 1ul of first round product...dilute it into 100ul and use 1ul of this dilution. Set up 6 tubes of pcr and set for 24 cycles and remove a tube at 12,14,16.....24 cycles and see which cycle number gives good clean amplification.
A cleaner way is to design an internal primer set just inside the first pcr primers. They can be quite poor as primers because the template is almost all the correct amplimer.. Run 20 cycles of a 1% dilution of the first round product ( 1ul of 1/100 dilution) and it should give a clean product. There is no need to clean up the first round product between amplifications
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Hi, I'm trying to isolate total DNA from dried oak leafs using CTAB protocol.
Normally, after the incubation in the lysis buffer (2% CTAB, 100mM Tris, 20mM EDTA, 2.8M NaCl, 1% PVP, 1% BME) and two washes with CI 24:1, I put 500µl of the aqueous fase in a clean microcentrifuge tube, add 500µl of chilled isopropanol + 50 µl of Sodium Acetate and a DNA "cloud" form immediately. Lately the isopropanol mixes poorly with the aqueous fase (some times not mixing at all) and the precipitate doesn't form. Does anyone know what can be happening?
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After adding isopropanol store this sample at -20 for overnight. This will also enhance your DNA concentration.
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Hi All, I have several trials for few months to extract good genomic DNA from some cultures of Asp. nidulans, most of them worked with CTAB extraction from freez-dried mycelium (30-40-60 hrs old) except one isolate fails every time, every time I have good string DNA and clear white pellet which is hardly soluble in TE, but partially soluble after warming for hour at 65 C. Finally I have low concentrations of DNA on Qubit/Nanodrop but nothing appear on Gel!!
Any suggestion/ keys would be helpful for extraction?
Where is my DNA gone , What is the pellet if not a DNA??
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Many Thanks
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I am preparing CTAB buffer and I read that addition of PVP (Polyvinylpyrrolidone) helps to remove phenolic compounds. Most of the times in protocols there is no additional information about average molecular weight of used PVP, but I found in some, where it was specified that it was PVP 40 (mol wt 40 000) for DNA extraction. But I wanted to know if I can use the same for RNA extraction or should I use PVP 360 (mol wt 360 000)?
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PVP is basically a polymer, which will only mention as %. So its better to go with dilution. In my experience, CTAB-buffer with 2% PVP works well for the Isolation of DNA. Incubate your CTAB with PVP for 15 mins at 65 C and then vertex.
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I am using TissueLyser LT to extract DNA from plant tissue ( without using liquid nitrogen cause it's not available ) but I do not know how much time is required? I did this in 6 minutes at 50HZ but I found out ( based on https://www.qiagen.com/ir/products/human-id-and-forensics/automation/tissuelyser-ii/?clear=true#technicalspecification )the typical run time is '15 sec - 2 x 3 minutes at 15–30 Hz '.Does anyone have experience using it?
Can the required time be obtained based on experimental observations?
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Dear Tayebe
I am not sure I have understood what are differences between the lanes (and the percentage of agarose too, and DNA ladder size too), but I would say that right two lanes on the bottom part look like a good genomic DNA. Other samples in my mind show degraded DNA. I also would say that the gel is heavily overloaded, so I would load less material. This can help to see if the degradation is full or partial. BTW, the physical forces applied to the samples can cause DNA degradation - another reason to use as less time as possible for homogenization in lysis buffer. Also, additionally to integrity of the DNA, you can check the purity of DNA by NanoDrop. Since you are trying to find the best procedure, I would aggregate all this information before making decision and accepting it as SOP. But good sign - your homogenization generally works - you do get tissue disruption.
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Please provide me practically viable solution.
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Which method did to use for separation if a third component (solvent) was not used?
The Ethanol-water binary system form an azeotrope unless the pressure is below 11.5 kPa
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Is is possible that grape seed proteins binds polyphenols, which are not extractable? If so, how can we isolate polyphenols from the extract that might contain protein? I am thinking of dipping the extract in an alkali solution.
What do you say?
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Akleshwar Mathur thanks for sharing!
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CTAB or Phenol chloroform, which is better? Please guide me in detail
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Hi Rahul,
I tried with Qiagen DNeasy Plant mini Kit with modification, u can use filter paper method or plankton from net for extraction, but freeze throwing at Liquid nitrogen, and homogenization using bead beating is essential and after that incubation at 3-6hr at 55C
please refer: Nowinski et al.,2019(Nature -Scientific data)
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The protocol I refer to is largely based on the Current Protocols in Molecular Biology.
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Very unlikely. DNA and RNA share many of their physical chemical properties, so they cannot be distinguished without specific enzymatic activity. RNA is more liable to heating, though, but required thermal treatment will not most probably leave DNA intact.
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Sending out a Bat Signal to anyone who has successfully extracted DNA Primnoidae- especially from Thouarella and Dasystenella: what protocol did you use and what 'tweaks' did you use to successfully get DNA from these genera please?
I have 8-15 yr old samples that have been preserved fairly well. I've used McFaddens CTAB and then some other adaptations thereof plus salting out etc. I've used up to 9 polyps as starting material. Any ideas here that worked for you that I could try please? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Results so far: worst extracts with QIAGEN DNeasy, CTAB (McFadden, Coffroth protocols) worked well, best result: salting out with modifications. As expected, preservation methods and sample age majorly influence the outcome.
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Hello! I'm doing CTAB DNA extraction from some fungal groups, but sometimes I have some salt crystals residuals, and when I send PCR products to sequenciate, it doesn't work.
I don't know why they appear, because I have extracted DNA from the same individual several times, and one of those time appear salt residual.
How can I clean it when appears? Or I have to extract again DNA?
Thank you!
María José
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Hello María José,
do you perform a PCR on the extracted DNA and send the PCR product? If yes, the salt contamination is more likely to arise from the PCR mix. I can recommend a PCR clean up step either by column or gel extraction.
If this is not the case I would recommend an additional 70% ethanol wash as I assume you extract with isopropanol? Salt and DNA precipitate, but not in ethanol.
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I tried to extract DNA from Arabidopsis leaves. Grind in Liquid nitrogen, ,incubate with 2% CTAB for 30 min at 65℃, add 1:1 volume chloroform/isoamyl alcohol (24:1), centrifuge, transfer upper aqueous phase to new tube, 1:1 volume ice-cold isoproponal precipitate and centrifuge, a pellet appear, wash with 70% ethanol and centrifuge, the pellet is still there, opaque white. Then I dissolve it with 100ul TE, the concentration is about 2ng/ul. run the gel (5ul sample) can only see RNA (under 200 bp), no signal of DNA band which should usually larger than 20kb.
I repeated several times, always similar result.
What might cause this? Is the pellet DNA or something else?
Is it possible that during 65℃ heating the DNA degraded?
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10 ng may not be enough to visualize on the gel
Nirmal
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I have extracted DNA from cacao leaf tissue (freeze dried).
I used CTAB buffer (5%) along with 1% B-mercaptoethanol and 3% PVP. I did the DNA extraction overseas and transported it as a pellet to Australia. When they arrived in Australia I stored them at 4 C after resuspending them in TE buffer. However, when I checked the quality on agarose gel surprisingly all of my samples have degraded DNA.
Could anyone pls advice me what can I do to prevent the degradation of the DNA? The downstream application of the DNA will be DarT analysis.
I have attached the gel picture as well.
Regards
Gurpreet
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you can have a look on this article, you will find useful tips to avoid DNA degradation:
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Thanks for your attention in here! My aim is to search virulence factors in bacteria isolates through bioinformatics.. the case is that they are located both within plasmidic and genomic DNA. So if I want to sequence DNA for that research, i wish i can be sure of helding a method to extract total DNA and send that product for sequencing.
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When you isolate genomic DNA you will also have plasmid DNA included, and in fact likely to be over represented in the mixture. It is possible to purify the plasmid away from the gDNA based on supercoiling properties, but it is generally not easy to purify the gDNA away from the plasmid. You will have both.
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If I have a plant leaf with Alternaria sp. infection. Is there a commercial kit to extract the fungal DNA only? OR the plant DNA ?
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Hello, by benzylchloride method you can extract both plant and fungi DNA by same procedure and same reaction mixture and you will receive both DNAs mixture. If you want to isolate only fungi DNA the better way is to isolate fungi culture from your material as pure culture and then perform DNA isolation.
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I am aiming for hyaluronic acid-based microgels particles, which are homogeneously modified with DNA. Therefore, SH-modified DNA, which is additionally functionalized with a fluorescence dye is couple to a PEG-maleimide crosslinker and mixed with hyaluronic acid to from W/O-droplet-emulsion. By following the gelation process using fluorescence microscopy, I observe diffusion of my DNA (around 1200 bp) to the W/O-interface giving particles with DNA only at the surface (like a corona). The only thing that I can think of is that this might be an issue of electrostatic repulsion between polyanionic hyaluronic acid and the DNA during the gelation process. Can this effect be avoided by adding additives to the emlsion, like CTAB or something else that lowers the repulsion? Or do you have any other reason, why I oberserve this and how to avoid it?
Thanks for your help !
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I wanna use hyaluronic acid-based hydrogel particles for gene expression on microscale. I know, hyaluronic acid is not the best candidate as a polyanion. There are two reasons why I am aiming for hyaluronic acid based platform. The Gels need to be porous enough to allow for diffusion of the ribosomes throughout the particles. Second, the HA is further functionalized with binding motives and therefore HA needs to be quantitatively functionalized (possible due to the carboxyl group of HA). So switching to chitosan or agarose is not really an option.
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I am preparing C-TAB buffer and i read that addition of PVP (Polyvinylpyrrolidone) helps to remove phenolic compounds. Most of the times in protocols there is no additional information about average molecular weight of used PVP, but i found in some, where it was specified that it was PVP 40, 000, unfortunately in storage i have only PVP 360,000 can i use this or particles of polymer are too big ?
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Actually i have found in: "Protocols for Nucleic Acid Analysis by Nonradioactive Probes" ed Elena Hilario protocol for isolation from spores that use PVP 360:
Put 10 pretreated glass beads into an microcentrifuge tube containing the spore sample.
2. Add 0.2% β-mercaptoethanol and 1% PVP-360 to the CTAB buffer. Add 200 μL hot (65°C) CTAB buffer mixture to each tube (see Note 22)
3.Vortex for 1 min at high speed.
4. Incubate at 65°C for 30 min.
5. Add 200 μL chloroform/isoamyl alcohol (24:1).
6. Centrifuge at 14,000g for 15 min.
7. Precipitate with 2 volumes of 100% ethanol and leave sample at –20°C for at least 3 h. Repeat step 6.
8. Wash with 2 volumes of 70% ethanol, and repeat step 6. Discard supernatant.
9. Dry in a vacuum centrifuge.
10. Add 10 μL TE buffer. Store at 4 or –20°C.
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I am isolated DNA from some folliose lichens, then purified in ethanol at 13000 rpm, after 15 minute drying, pellet doesn't dissolved in elution buffer. I am also using warm water and ( 65 C) elution buffer but pellet doesn't dissolved after 15-20 days. How can i troubleshoot this problem.
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Hi khem
Your pellet may be completely over dried. So many of them face a similar problem (sometimes I had a problem to dissolve the pellet) and sometimes heating the solution to almost boiling T may be useful for a short period of time.
But that may degrade your DNA.
Good luck
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Despite I repeat it three times to get DNA from the Einkorn. I couldn't take high amount from it. Could it be related to its cell structure? or I doing some mistake?
Note: The protocol had been used for long time and got the good results from the others type of plants, previously. (CTAB PROTOCOL)
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In order to purify DNA, insoluble particulates are removed through centrifugation while soluble proteins and other material are separated through mixing with chloroform and centrifugation. DNA must then be precipitated from the aqueous phase and washed thoroughly to remove contaminating salts. The purified DNA is then resuspended and stored in TE buffer or sterile distilled water. This method has been shown to give intact genomic DNA from plant tissue. To check the quality of the extracted DNA, a sample is run on an agarose gel, stained with ethidium bromide, and visualised under UV light
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Does CTAB method of DNA extraction work well for whiteflies. If not please provide any lucid method of DNA extraction from whiteflies.
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Dear Kamesh , my suggestion is: use a method based on chelex. You can use with just one specimen.
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Are there other effective methods of DNA extraction ?
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Improving the quality of DNA means to remove other contaminants from it.  Generally treating DNA with RNAses is recommended to yield high-quality DNA.
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I've seen some dna extractions protocols using lysis buffer containing certain concentration of sucrose. I have been told that it increases the yield of extracted dna. I've been trying to find an explanation for that and it seems like it's about the tonicity of the solution. However, I still don't quite get how it works exactly because, to me, adding sucrose means making the lysis buffer more hypertonic and thus the water should come out from cells making them to shrink and hinder the release of dna... Hope someone can provide me some explanations.
Thank you in advance !
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Again responding after many years.
To get DNA from the cell we need to break the cells so that the contents of the cell come out including NUCLEUS where the DNA is present. To break or lysis the cell wall including the wall of the nucleus we have to create the osmotic pressure so that the wall bursts and cell contents release by the action of proteolytic enzymes along with sucrose that present in the extraction buffers. Hope it is clear why we add sucrose in buffers.
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can someone assist me with a protocol to extract genomic DNA from cyanobacteria using phenol-chloroform?
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1. A certain amount of cells equivalent to 1 OD730 units of culture were harvested by centrifuging at 12, 000rpm for 1 min;
2. Adding silica sand.
3. Then, 100ul saturated phenol (saturated phenol is in the lower layer, upper level is protection liquid) and 100ul Chloroform: isoamyl alcohol (v/v 24:1) were added. And cells were disrupted with silica sand and those organic regents by vigorous vortex (5 min);
4. After centrifugation at 12, 000rpm for 5min, you can collect and transfer the supernatant into a new tube . Then you can add Chloroform: isoamyl alcohol (v/v 24:1), whose volume was similar to the supernatant. After mixing with chloroform and isoamyl alcohol thoroughly and centrifugation, the supernatant was collected.
5. After the addition of 1/5V(Volume) NaCl and 2~3V ethanol (100%) , you can mix them thoroughly and then set them at -20℃ for 30min at least.
6. After centrifugation at 12, 000rpm for 10min, you can remove the supernatant. Then you can add 500ul ethanol (70%) to wash the DNA.
7. After centrifugation at 12, 000rpm for 5min, you can remove the supernatant. Then the precipitates were collected and dried at room temperature for 3~5min.
8. You can add 30~50ul ddH2O or TE to dissolve the DNA.
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How can extract DNA genomic with high purity in fungal with the CTAB method?
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Thaks a lot.
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I am doing an rna extraction from tomato leafs, using the Trizol protocol. But when I add chloroform, and centrifuged the samples, the hidrofilic portion gets a pink coloring. And the color keeps going in the steps. Any one know what it is? I am afraid that could be Guanidinium thiocyanate, and could be resulting in a low proportion of 260/230. Any information is valid.
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LiCl  increase yield and stability of the RNA preparation for tissue samples especially plant  species and improve cDNA synthesis.
You can add more than once extraction step with chloroform too. 
How old is the chloroform that you have? How long are you centrifuging the sample for following chloroform addition?How much did you add chloroform?all are the key factors that influence chloroform extraction step.
following papers may help you
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Other colleagues are extracting good quality DNA of other crops with the same chemical. so all chemicals are working good.
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I would start by preparing a new batch of CTAB. The recommended shelf life is 2 weeks. I had a similar situation and realized I received many attempts later that it was the RNAse A. I moved the RNAse step after phenol chloroform isoamyl alcohol extraction and incubated at 37C for 30 minutes, followed by a chlororm isoamyl alcohol extraction. You can also make sure you are grinding into a fine powder before adding heated CTAB.    Increase your incubation time if needed, after adding CTAB.
You can also increase your salting out phase. Try leaving at -20C overnight or you can try letting your pellet dissolve overnight. Are you getting a pellet? If so, what is the consistency?
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Hi everybody,
I found in a canned coffee that they using sodium hydrocarbonate to adjust the pH level. So what is their purpose? I would like to thank you for your attention, if you have any idea please let me know
Warm Regards
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Sodium bicarbonate is used as anticaking agent or it also helps in color retention because when coffee absorb moisture it color changes from brown to dark brown or vlack
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I would like to get suggestion on DNA extraction kits for insect larvae preserved in absolute alcohol
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Thank you very much Ivan
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Has any one extracted DNA from the walnut leaf samples preserved in 70% ethanol? I am worried about the quality of DNA. Can it be used for further analysis like linkage mapping and studying of genetic diversity ? 
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 Dear Rene van Wezel,
Thanks a lot for the information and articles. I would also like to thank Bhaskar Gouda, Jetty Ramadevi, and Shreeti Pradhan for your valuable comments
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I isolate genomic DNA from dried soy bean by genomic dna isolation kit. But is it possible to occur that DNA concentration is seen when tested by nano drop but band is not seen when it is run by gel electrophoresis? what does it mean?
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Extracted DNA from soil by using Nucleospin kit..... followed the procedure and even reduced the samples quantity..but still not pure DNA. 
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Thank u all
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Does anyone know an alternative method to the disruption of seed that does not use liquid nitrogen?
They are very small seeds, beads and blender are not efficient.
Thanks
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Use Quick-DNA™ Plant/Seed Miniprep Kit, it helps as we have isolated genomic DNA of chickpea seeds.
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DNA extraction using CTAB method or a kit.
The sample is either the mesocarp or peel.
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Thank you all
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I am trying to extract DNA from protea leaves using the Doyle&Doyle (CTAB) extraction method. My 260/230 values are very low. I have been leaving the ethanol to evaporate overnight or leaving it 2 hrs in airtight silica to dry the ethanol. However, I am still getting on average 0.60 for my 260/230 Nano-drop readings. It should be 1.8.  I know this could be from contamination of some kind either from phenol's or carbohydrates carrying over according to some studies. Could anything else be causing this. Could this cause my DNA not to light up on a gel after a PCR? What can I do to ensure I have a consistently high 260/230 reading for all the samples I extract?
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As any ratio your 260/230 is a result of two value. Either 260 (DNA is low) or 230 is high. It is therefore interesting to look at the value independently, is your 260 value good (compared with nice DNA which you can borrow from a fellow lab member or is your 230 high compared with the DNA from your fellow lab member. I think before troubleshooting your protocol you first need to know which of the two problem you are facing, are you having a problem recovering your DNA (low 260) or extracting to much of 230 absorbing compunds (high 230). Get this info first, then troubleshoot.
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As i tried to extract DNA from fresh plant tissues using kits, or CTAB method DNA was in bad quality.
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What kind of 'bad quality' did your isolated DNA have?
Did you grind the fresh tissue well enough? Becoming powder in the liquid N2?
Were your kit or CTAB solution old?
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I would like to know the major role of ethanol while extracting dna or rna. In all the solvents used, ethanol has to be added first. Why? Please, I need your help
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Ethanol has higher dielectric constant than water and will thus "soak-out" the water from nucleic acid and leave it dehydrated. Now positively charged ions in your solution can access nucleic acid and form salts.Without Ethanol (or propanol) positively charged ions don't stand a chance at accessing phosphate groups in DNA because they're surrounded by water molecules.
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Greeting to all researchers!
Can anyone suggest me with a successful procedure for extraction of genomic DNA from herbarium material of Red algae (Rhodophyceae).
So far we are successful in extracting genomic DNA from fresh material by SDS method. Since this group consist of high amount of polysaccharides, we find it difficult to extract DNA.
Thank you all
Swetha
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I was extracting total plant protein from a cotton leaf sample following TCA/Acetone precipitation method given in the paper linked below. After taking the aqueous phase along with the upper phenol phase I added 80% methanol containing 0.1M ammonium acetate and kept for overnight stand at -200C. In the morning before centrifugation dense whitish substances were seen trying to settle down. I thought after centrifugation pellet will definitely form. But after centrifugation I found all of them had disappeared, perhaps dispersed. Even after the 2nd centrifugation no pellet was formed. What was the problem? Please help. I have attached a file showing the phenolic separation stage what I had got. I believe the phase in between the lower phenol phase and the aqueous phase contains the major amount of protein. Please suggest. This is the first time I am using this protocol.  
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You may be need to change the pH of solution  or increase the concentration of ammonium acetate. I wish this helpful. 
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I already using Powersoil DNA extraction kit but the result from the extraction was not good
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Hi Sakinah,
Do you need the amount of DNA extracted to be replicable, ie. be fairly consistent across samples?
If not, CTAB might work for you. We've had it work on a range of difficult samples (salt water, not peat though) and it's been consistently giving us better results than the PowerSoil kit, as well as a few others tested. However while the DNA concentration is higher than the kits, it's quite variable. Would not recommend for qPCR but for PCR and ID, it's great.
Let me know if this interests you and I'll dig up the protocol.
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I am working on DNA extraction from giardia cysts isolated of water samples following conventional phenol-chloroform DNA extraction method.
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Thanks for your advice Artur Burzynsky
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Dear colleagues,
I am familiar with DNA extraction methods (mainly for plants) that use CTAB (cetyltrimethylammonium bromide). However, we recently came across a few papers/methods that either replace CTAB with DTAB (dodecyltrimethylammonium bromide) or use both reagents together in their protocols. Could anyone explain to me the reason behind this? Both reagents seem to be cationic detergents that should have the same function in the DNA extraction.
Thank you in advance for your help,
René
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Hi René
I had same question months/year ago but was hard to find information. What I found was that the critical micelle concentration (CMC)  and micelle microviscosity for these two cationic surfactants, have been studied through Electron Spin Resonance technique and the main difference seems that self-aggregation behaviour seems to be more marked and cooperative for CTAB than for DTAB thanks to the higher number of carbon atoms in CTAB tail. It occurs around 1 mM for CTAB and 14 mM for DTAB. However this does not reply to your question. Mixture of them is recommended for dirty samples apparently.
As their carbon chains are different (12 and 16), I am wondering as their charge is positive if their zeta potential is also different and if the target proteins they bind could be different, therefore having a mixture could be the best indeed to get cleaner DNA. In the group, we use CTAB and it worked quite well however but working with algae…
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Hello,
I would apreciate your knowledge and answers :)
I pretend to extract DNA of leaves of a plant with a lot of contaminants ! I tried before and i couldnt, even with purification! Now, i am looking for a Dna extraction kit, where i can extract the DNA of the microrganisms living in the plant!!
Greetings
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If you want to extract the DNA of the microrganisms living in the plant, you may simply use typical DNA extraction kit to extract all the DNA first. 
After doing NGS, you may use filter to filter out all the reads from plant genome. 
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Hello (sorry for long text)
I've tried the isolation in three different ways, in the second trial I changed some steps of first trial which are decribed by “ / ” after related step, in the third one I tried completely different procedure. None of the results was good.
I grind whole leaf tissue samples into a fine powder (they seemed like light green flour) in the mortar with the aid of liquid nitrogen and thawing was not allowed.
Here is the first (I) and  second (II) procedure that I followed:
CTAB solution was prepared as;
-       25mL 1M Tris – HCl
-       70mL 5M NaCl
-       10mL 0.5M EDTA
-       5g CTAB
-       Solution was completed to 250mL by adding distilled water.
1.      50 – 100mg plant powder was put into 2mL microcentrifuge tube. / 50-100mg plant powder was put into mortar, and sample was grinded again with aid of liquid nitrogen.
2.      For each sample, 600µL CTAB solution and 8mg PVP were mixed and heated to 60°C. 0.2% β-Mercaptoethanol was added into solution.
3.      CTAB – PVP mixture was added into sample tubes. / 500µL CTAB – PVP mixture was added into mortar, sample was continued to grind, homogenate was put into a 2mL microcentrifuge tube. Mortar and pestle were rinsed with 100µL of CTAB – PVP mixture and this rinse liquid was added to the 2mL microcentrifuge tube.
4.      Sample tubes were incubated at 60°C for 25min, tubes were shaked gently at each 5min. After that tubes were waited at room temperature for 5 – 10min.
5.      450µL 24:1 chloroform : octanol was added to each sample, and samples were centrifuged at 13000rpm for 15min.
6.      Supernatants were transferred into new 2mL microcentrifuge tubes by using slant cut micropipette tips. / 5th and 6th steps were performed twice.
7.      NaCl in ½ volume of supernatant and %95 ethanol in 2 volumes of supernatant were added to samples. Samples were put into freezer (-20°C) for one night.
8.      After overnight incubation, samples were centrifuged at 13000rpm for 10min.
9.      Supernatants were removed. Pellets were washed with 1000µL %75 ethanol and 13000rpm centrifuge for 5min. / This washing step was performed two times.
10.    Supernatants were removed and pellets were dried by using concentrator until they became crisps.
11.    Dried pellets were dissolved in 100µL nuclease – free water.
12.    3µL RNase A was applied to the samples at 37°C for 1 hour.
I have also tried another method (III) with these steps:
1.      0.2g plant powder was put into mortar, and sample was grinded again with aid of liquid nitrogen.
2.      For each sample 500µL squash buffer (2% N – Laurylsarcosine sodium salt, 0.1M Tris – HCl (pH 8.0), 10mM EDTA (pH 8.0)) was added into mortar, sample was continued to grind, homogenate was put into a 2mL microcentrifuge tube. Mortar and pestle were rinsed with 100µL of squash buffer and this rinse liquid was added to the 2mL microcentrifuge tube.
3.      600µL cold phenol was added to the tubes, tubes were turned upside down a few times and incubated on ice for 10min.
4.      Tubes were centrifuged at 13000rpm for 10min.
5.      Upper liquid phases were transferred into new 2mL microcentrifuge tubes by using slant cut micropipette tips.
6.      600µL chloroform was added to the tubes, tubes were mixed well and centrifuged at 13000rpm for 10min.
7.      Upper liquid phases were transferred into new 2mL microcentrifuge tubes by using slant cut micropipette tips.
8.      6th and 7th steps were repeated.
9.      50µL cold 3M NaOAc and 1mL cold 95% ethanol were added into tubes, tubes were turned upside down a few times and put into freezer (-20°C) for one night.
10.    After overnight incubation, samples were centrifuged at 13000rpm for 1min.
11.    Supernatants were removed, pellets were washed by 1mL cold 75% ethanol (13000rpm for 1min) two times.
12.    Supernatants were removed and pellets were dried by using concentrator until they became crisps.
13.    Dried pellets were dissolved in 100µL nuclease – free water.
14.    3µL RNase A was applied to the samples at 37°C for 1 hour.
I am adding the results of the trials.
So in which step I'm doing mistake, I have contaminants and smear, what do you suggest me?
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Dear Nilay
Your DNA samples are carrying too much protein contamination. It seems to me handling problem. Extraction protocol looks standard but there are many things you are getting even after standard procedures, for example, you perform Phenol treatment for protein removal and RNAse treatment for RNA removal, but you still can see RNA at the bottom of your samples. The DNA samples also have degradation as smears can be seen in most of the samples.
Suggestion:
1. Check your pippetting, take care during picking supernatant that you should carefully pick the liquid only from upper layer.
2. After grinding leaf tissues in the pestle and mortor, transfer the powder into 2 ml tube, where you can add prepared (2X CTAB + 1% pvp + 0.2% b merceptoethanol). Add PVP and merceptoethanol into CTAB right before use.
3. Try precipitating DNA with isopropyl alcohol.
4. Did you perform RNAse removal after RNAse treatment.
5. Try using Phenol:Chloform:isoamly alcohol (24.1.1)
I really think the problem is only in handling (handling error), otherwise your protocol seems fine.
Best of luck
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I recently tried extracting DNA from hair.. i took samples from 5 different individuals in different eppendorfs. I used B-Mercaptoethanol(instead of DTT(X10 molarity)) and proteinaseK for dissolution of keratin... i used the protocol given in the link..
i followed the protocol properly and i got decent amount of white pellet after NaOAc precipitation and after washing with ethanol. 
when i loaded it for gel electrophoresis i got no bands.. nothing at all.. no protein impurity... nothing in all 5 samples..
and side by side i also extracted Dna from saliva.. i got the same result.. no bands..
what am i doing wrong?
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Hi, Nibras
I will keep that in mind.. Thank you..
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I am trying to use CTAB to extract DNA from swabs of frogs' skin, and I would like to add a lysozyme step to ensure that I am getting of the gram+ bacteria, but I have a few questions about implementing it.
First, I have found a few older papers saying that the CTAB buffer and lysozyme will interact. Will that be a problem?
Second, how should I resuspend the lysozyme? 20mM Tris-HCl at pH8, 2mM EDTA, and 1.2% Triton X-100 seems to be the answer that I am finding most often, but I have also seen just 20mM Tris-HCl at pH8, and even just water. If I am resuspending immediately before doing the lysis, do I need the EDTA and Triton, or will just Tris-HCl or water work? For that matter, can I just resuspend in CTAB buffer? I'm guessing that the CTAB and lysozyme would interact and prevent that solution from being viable, but I would appreciate other people's opinions. 
Thanks
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Ok, thanks for the advice
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I use phenol, SDS method to isolate RNA from plant cells, but I am confusing that how I can prepare sol, like TE, water satuarted phenol, which are free RNase. Just autoclaving after make solution ? I am going to use large amount so the glass bottle shoul dbe used.I am very afraid about RNA degradation that may cause by the botlles and water.Please give me some suggestions! 
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There is also a very good article regarding DEPC and RNA from ThermoFisher Scientific company. I recommend you to read it. The title of the article is:
"RNase and DEPC Treatment: Fact or Laboratory Myth"
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I am looking for microbial  diversity pattern in soil samples from different altitudes through DGGE. I used FastDNA™ SPIN Kit for Soil DNA extraction but I am getting lot of brownish color in the final eluted DNA. Can anyone suggest me a method to get rid of this problem, as this is hampering further downstream process.
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possibly the colour is caused by humins  which often purify with dna. You could try ethanol precipitation ( with glycogen added if you do not have very much dna as a co precipitant then do an OD260/280 to ascertain dna purity Dusan makes a good point that when you do have interfering substances sometimes using less samples allows a PCR to work rather than using more and having more interference. Having said that any substance that absorbs at 260 will make you think that you have more dna than you actuallu do have
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hello, I use CTAB procedure for DNA extraction, but I have a problem that is pellets in final stage is colorful or dark, how I can solve this problem?
thank you
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So i'm using a using a phenol chloroform protocol from Sambrook et al (1989), (molecular cloning) to extract DNA from lobster muscle tissue. This involves adding equal volumes of phenol to Proteinase K digested tissue within extraction buffer. Samples are then rocked and centrifuged for 5min at 13000 RPM. The aqueous layer is removed and placed within a new tube. Chloroform Isoamyl Alcohol (24:1) is then added and samples are again rocked and centrifuged. 
My problem is that after the addition of Chloroform Isoamyl Alcohol and centrifugation I observe a white precipitate resting at the interphase of each sample, though it appears to be a part of the aqueous phase.. I'm wondering 
A) What it is?
and
B) How can I get rid of it?
As it may be negatively impacting the quality of my extractions as when they're run on a gel they result in a low molecular weight smear rather than a clear, high molecular weight band. 
My understanding is that if this were observed during the phenol step of the protocol it would likely be proteins, but i can't find any information about this occurrence during the chloroform phase.
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Most likely it is still denatured proteins/excess salt etc. It is often required to do several rounds of phenol-chloroform extraction to remove all of the proteins. You need to repeat phenol-chloroform extraction until no precipitate is visible and then perform chloroform extraction step. 
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I am  working on population genomics of freshwater shrimp, Paratya australiensis. I am trying to extract high quality, high molecular weight DNA (~3ug, >50kb); from Paratya for RAD-sequencing. I have tried different extraction methods on fresh and frozen samples so far, e.g. Spin-Column extraction, CTAB extraction and Salt extraction. Besides, I have also tried an extended gDNA extraction procedure by incorporating a salting out step prior to phenol/chloroform cleanup. But unfortunately these methods have all produced what appears to be a smear of degraded DNA rather than high molecular weight band on agarose gels. Can anyone suggest me any other procedures that might help?
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Hi, Sharmeen Rahman,
I am extracting DNA from shrimp frozen tissue that apply to GBS method. I used kit (Invitrogen), phenol: chloroform:isoamyl alcohol (25:24:1) but they appear to be a smear. Can you help me?
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I am working on NBS-LRR gene. I want to detect the same in Trichosanthes through PCR. When I am doing PCR with freshly extracted DNA (CTAB method) I am getting multiple bands for the gene of interest. But after one week I am not getting any amplified product from the same DNA. Can anyone tell me if the NBS-LRR is unstable in the CTAB extracted DNA?
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i think is problem of your DNA, perhaps after one week it gets degraded because of some contamination that remains in your the DNA. I suggest to check the quality of your DNA after storage and to adjust DNA extraction conditions if you find that it degrades after a week. Also consider this situation of multiple bands... how big is the amplicon that your are expecting? It might be also due tu unspecific DNA amplifications?
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I need a high yield giving kit for DNA extraction from fungal mycelium scraped from plate.Or can you recommend any other safe kit. I have used DNAeasy mini kit and Machery-Nagel PlantIISpin kit but they didn't give good results at all. The only good yields I got from phenol DNA extraction which I try to find replacement for. Thanks
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You can use another conventional protocol, there are several procedures to obtain good results or Wizard genomic purification kit Promega (only for high yields), but in my experience DNeasy is an excelent kit. May be, you could try to freezing the mycelium (verify the amount of mycelia) before extraction techniques. Celular lysis is fundamental step previous to DNA extraction. I recomended to use lyophilized material. Good luck :)
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What is the Phenol do through the process of  DNA extraction.
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Dear Oadi,
phenol is used for the separation DNA and proteins during extraction process. It allows to precipitate coagulated proteins in the interface between aqueous and phenol layers.
Best regards,
Maxim
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DNA is washed with 70% ethanol to remove some (or ideally all) of the salt from the pellet. If water was used as the wash then DNA would dissolve again and if 100% ethanol was used the salt would not wash off because sodium salts are poorly soluble in ethanol.
because precipitation in 100% ethanol cause removal of all water molecule from DNA and Complete Dehydration,which make them not soluble, So we give 70% wash to let it retain some water molecule when make it soluble.
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My sample is filter (sea water) which is stored in RNA later. The size of the filter is very big (300 mm diameter). The method is CTAB. When I used the TE buffer  to dissolve DNA, I saw a lot of precipitate which cannot be dissolved in TE buffer, I speculated it to be salt. The DNA is used to construct a metagenome library.
Will the salt  affect the construction of a library? Does someone have a good method to remove salt from DNA solution?
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Hi there,
I have run into a similar problem and am quite interested in the column clean up procedures you used. Ales, I have found the types columns you described. They are quite dear and only purify up to 100 microlitres of sample. Steve, which columns did you use? Did it resole your issues with the qPCR? Because that is my end goal too.
Thanks!
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I have carried out a CTAB extraction on insect tissue samples. The resulting 260/280 and 260/230 ratios are excellent and DNA concentration is c. 200 ng/ul which is very good for us knowing the tissue sample. However, we seem to have a very high percentage RNA contamination - i.e. approximately 20% of all nucleic acid in the sample is RNA.
I have tried new RNase A to make sure there is no problem with the enzyme and we have ruled this out.
I am wondering if there is some property of the samples that is inhibiting the RNase A function and whether this could be due to the extraction method. Has anyone had a similar problem with CTAB extraction methods?
Thanks in advance for any advice or tips.
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Hi all, thank you very much for your advice. Just to update....We checked the pH of the CTAB and that was fine. There were already two ethanol washes in the protocol. The RNA contamination is important in this case as the samples are to be used for BS-sequencing.
As a trial, we ran the extraction process without any RNase treatment and found that c. 50% of the sample was RNA. So the RNase treatment is working to some extent as it reduces the percentage of RNA in the sample to 15-20%. What seems to have been going on here is that by only using one type of RNase the enzyme is not chopping up the RNA into small enough fragments to be soluble in the ethanol and as such it is still precipitated out along with the gDNA.
I was advised to try RNase T1 or a Riboshredder as opposed to RNase A.
Thanks again for your help!
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I am trying to extract DNA with CTAB from fungal fresh-frozen mycelium (Botrytis) and ran into the problem that my DNA doesn't look clean on gel when I am trying to quantify it (picture is attached, last three bands are my standards - 50,100 and 200), also cannot get reliable results of amplification using this DNA.  
I noticed, that my DNA pellets are quite gelatinous even after washing with ice cold 70% ethanol (it is even hard to make a pellet from DNA after isopropanol step, in some tubes after 10 min centrifuge gelatinous aggregation stays somewhere in the liquid).
The liquid after resuspension of pellet with water is viscose (resuspension is also quite hard, takes almost a day with repetitive finger-vortexing and storing in the refrigerator). So I was thinking maybe I am missing something (never used CTAB extraction before).
I started with modified protocol that my colleague suggested and this protocol doesn't have PVP and BME.
Here are all ingredients I have in my extraction:
Extraction Buffer A (EBA):
2% (w/v) hexadecyltrimethylammonium bromide (CTAB) 
Tris (pH 8.0) (from 1M stock) 
EDTA (from 0.5M stock) 
NaCl 
ascorbic acid    
Extraction Buffer B (EBB): 
Tris-HCl (pH 8.0) (from 1M stock)                                      
EDTA (from 0.5M stock)                                                  
NaCl 
Other Required Reagents:
20% (w/v) sodium dodecyl sulfate (SDS) (weigh in fume or with respiratory mask)
5M potassium acetate (autoclave before use, store at 4۫C)
70% ethanol
Isopropanol
On my second attempt I also added step with phenol-isoamyl alcohol to try to make it cleaner, but got the same gelatinous pellets as before. Don't see any difference so far.
Will appreciate any suggestions
Thank you very much
Olga
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I agree with Al- Amin suggestions.  You may wish to look at the Vilgalys CTAB protocol available at http://www.umich.edu/~mycology/protocols.html.  I have had similar "protein smears" on gels which I believe was due to my lack of "carefully" (see Al-Amin note and Vilgalys instructions) removing the upper layer in the Chloroform:isoamyl alcohol extraction.  
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We simultaneously extract DNA from fish fins, muscle, and eggs using the CTAB protocol or the Qiagen DNEasy blood and tissue kit, and get good results for the first two, while the DNA from eggs is smeary and has very low quality readings. Does anyone know what's in the eggs that is causing this, and have you come across an extraction procedure that significantly improves the situation? (by the way, the eggs were preserved in ethanol, RNAlater and Allprotect reagent, but the genomic DNA is consistently poor).
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Some fish eggs (salmonid ones) have a very strong "capsule" (zona radiata, zona radiata externa and vitelline membrane) which are impermeable to most substances (the salmonids' vitelline membrane is even known to be impermeable to water and the zona radiata externa prevents the whole capsule to be digested by external proteolytic treatments). Accordingly, preservative substances won't be efficient if you don't preliminarily break the capsule.
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The DNA was extracted using the CTAB method Chloroform: Isoamyl alcohol 24: 1 and resuspended in TE buffer. Can I use RNAse-A for this?
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Yes Javier, you can easily treat an aliquot of the DNA preparations with good quality DNase free RNase A. After RNase A treatment, you can either use the DNA preps directly for PCR or other applications or else can re purify the extracts with phenol-chloroform extraction-ethanol precipitation to remove RNase A completely.
Best wishes
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Is there any step during CTAB DNA extraction which I can modified and get good results? I already tried Kit, but the results are not sufficient for further analysis...
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Principles of CTAB method: lysis, extraction and precipitation
Plant cells can be lysed with the ionic detergent cetyltrimethyl ammonium bromide (CTAB), which forms an insoluble complex with nucleic acids in hypotonic medium. Thus, polysaccharides, phenolic compounds and other contaminants remain in the supernatant and can be washed. The DNA complex is solubilized by increasing the salt concentration and precipitated with ethanol or isopropanol. Lysis of the cell membrane, extraction of genomic DNA and its precipitation: In this section the principles of the three main stages are described.
 In the extraction step, the complexes formed by the CTAB nucleic acids and polysaccharides, phenolic compounds, proteins and other cell lysates dissolved in the aqueous solution are separated. It is especially important to remove polysaccharides and phenolic compounds, they may inhibit many enzyme reactions. Under low salt concentrations (<0.5 M NaCl), contaminants nucleic acid complexes do not precipitate and can be removed by extracting the aqueous solution with chloroform. The chloroform denatures proteins and facilitates the separation of the aqueous and organic phases. The aqueous phase is usually the top phase. However, if this phase is dense due to salt concentration (> 0.5 M), will form the lower phase. Also, if the pH of the aqueous solution is not properly balanced (pH 7.8 to 8.0), nucleic acids tend to partition into the organic phase. If necessary, the chloroform extraction is performed two or three times in order to completely remove impurities from the aqueous layer. To perfect the extraction of nucleic acids, it may be back the organic phase with an aqueous solution which is then added to the above extract. Once purified nucleic acid complexes, you can proceed to precipitation, the last stage of the procedure.
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I am trying to extract DNA from a variety of geothermal soils for metagenomics, but I am struggling with low pH (<pH4) soils, especially those with a high clay content.  So far, I've tried combinations of the Machery-Nagel NucleoSpin kit, skimmed milk, guanidine thiocyanate, and a CTAB method but I'm still not getting amplification. 
I can amplify samples from clay soil >pH4, so I can get rid of some of the humic acids and other inhibitors with these methods, but not at low pH.
I've heard the Mo Bio Power Soil kit is good with clay - does anyone know if it works well with low pH samples?
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Power Soil may not be the best protocol for soil with low pH (see article from Sagova-Mareckova et al 2008).
For soil with high clay content, you can also have look on the article from Hale and Crowley (2015) who developed a protocol for soil with amended-biochar sand or clay.
Finally, have look on the article from Terrat et al (2012) comparing protocols for different soil (including clay) for metagenomics.
And as previously mentioned, the article from Hurt et al 2014 is a good starting point.
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Identification of  forest tree?
for exampel Fagus, Sorbus, ..
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The suggestions the others have made are all good and relevant. However, in your response, what do you mean by "molecular identification of the tree stem and leaves"? Did you mean morphological, rather than "molecular"? If you have stems and leaves can you not also get flowers and fruit (or cones and seeds) and identify this tree from those features? There's also a huge literature on the identification of wood, using anatomical features. Why are you even bothering with the expense and uncertainty of using molecular methods if morphological data will answer your question?
Discovering whether DNA barcodes (or any DNA sequences) can assist with identification requires that you have several reference sequences from all candidate species (e.g. all of those known to be in the flora). Three of the plant barcode markers are chloroplast loci, while ITS2 is nuclear. Visit http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/resources/handbook?chapter=2_databases.html&section=id_engine to find out more about how to take advantage of the DNA barcode sequences that have already been archived.
Doing good science depends on making use of the tools most appropriate to the problem. Learning to use molecular methods is unlikely to be very productive if you don't take advantage of the knowledge already available from other sources. To this end, you should also have a look at this critical evaluation of how sequence data used in identification should be used: Ross HA, Murugan S, Li WLS. 2008. Testing the reliability of genetic methods of species identification via simulation. Systematic Biology, 57: 216-230.
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I am using modified CTAB method with 2.5X CTAB and 2M NaCl in the extraction buffer.
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Thank you for your contribution.....
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Other grades such as "Certified ACS" or "Certified ACS Plus" or "Laboratory" are much cheaper, but wondering if there are contaminants that would affect DNA quality.
Thanks much!
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For ALL molecular reactions you should ONLY use molecular grade reagents. The chemical impurities are not necessarily the issue, but can be. The primary issue is the DNAases, RNAases, proteases and nucleic contaminates. The enzymes will degrade your DNA/RNA and the nucleic acid contaminates may influence your results. The differences between the Laboratory/ACS/ACS plus is based on  purity of chemicals. Molecular grade purity is based on absence of "ases" and DNA/RNA contmainates.
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what is the reason for incubating it????
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Incubation at 65 degree centigrade in CTAB ensures complete lysis of cells in the suspension. This digest proteins, suspends lipids, and also digest/breakdown celluloid material and make DNA free.  For idea you can refer attached paper.
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I am using CTAB DNA extraction method. Before the step of DNA pellet formation, Usually, I mix isopropanol and NaCl with the supernatant part and keep into -20*C. In this case, How can I isolate fresh DNA?
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Colorful DNA pellets do not  imply useless DNA. Some natural dyes provide color at very low concentrations in the DNA  (for instance, those existing in Drosophila's eyes). Have you checked the real impact of the color in the reactions you perform on your DNA?
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 Adding 1/100 Rnase A to 500ul CTAB buffer when extracting gDNA from plant powder often result in decrease of DNA concentration in the end. I wonder if the Rnase A is not pure enough containing Dnase contaminate or is something wrong elsewhere ?
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Dear Luke,
It would be quite informative to have your RNAse preparation protocol and your CTAB extraction protocol, if you are interested in finding how what's happened.
RNAse is usually prepared by boiling at 100C for 10 min because is quite thermoestable, whilst the DNAse gets quickly denatured (see Sambrook Maniatis book, e.g.)
Also, how have you quantified your DNA concentration with/without RNAse treatment? I know it's obvious, but you cannot really distinguish DNA from RNA with spectrophotometry. Therefore, when you RNAse-treat samples you degrade the RNA into nucleotides or small oligos, and depending on how you precipitate afterwards you might not recover that degraded RNA, resulting in a lower nucleic acid concentration in comparison with the non-RNAse treated sample.
Cheers,
Ruben
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How can i purify CTAB???   actually after recrystallization of CTAB in ethanol/water mixture at 4oC when i am going to filter it,its again dissolving..
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CTAB has two ends, a lipophilic (cetyl chain) and a hydrophilic-hygroscopic (trimethylammonium + Br-). When it is crystallized from a protic solvent, a hydrophilic part in the crystal is oriented to surface of the crystal. Then comes the interaction of hydrophilic part with air moisture and the crystal is dissolved. In the crystallization carried out from an apolar solvent the hydrophobic cetyl chains are at the crystal surface and moist air dissolution does not occur.
On the other hand, CTAB is very poorly soluble in nonpolar solvents.
This discrepancy can be solved, so that CTAB is dissolved in a minimum amount of a polar solvent and the solution is then poured into a large excess of non-polar solvent with vigorous stirring (or better under ultrasound action). It is obvious that both solvents must be miscible. For example, the couple EtOH-Et2O, iPrOH-hexane, EtOAc-MeOH, AcOH-toluene, ...
Nota bene: This procedure is common for successful crystallization of most organic onium salts (ammonium, phosphonium, sulfonium, quaternized N-heterocycles etc.).
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I am looking for the best method for isolating DNA which should not wipe out methyl tags from the DNA for both 5mC & 5hmC. Are there any methods besides Methyl Pull Down based on MBD (Methyl Binding Domains ), Antibodies etc.
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For DNA extraction I used Qiagen DNeasy blood and tissue mini Kit. The purified DNA was stable at 4°C for some time. So there should be not at all a problem with it. I used bisulfit sequencing and MS-PCR approaches and both worked quite good. You can also use high resolution metling to analyse your samples for methylation, however this shows no status for certain residues
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Dear Community, 
Extracting DNA from Fusarium graminearum using a CTAB method.  The isopropanol precipitation produced a red oil phase.  It's a cool lava lamp effect, but it's to so great for precipitating the DNA.  Here is my protocol.  Anyone run into this problem?
1. Scraped half of the plate of 7 day F. graminearum on PDA 
2. 500 uL of 2% CTAB (used in plate extraction) 
3. Mixer mill homogenized for 10 min
4. 65 C - for 1 hours 
5. 600 uL of chloroform 
6. Separate the top layer 
7. 1 mL isopropanol, incubate overnight at -20 
- The procedure continue with ethanol wash, but not with that oil goop 
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Thanks everyone.  According to one of my colleagues, the red pigment produced exorbitantly by the fungus Fusarium graminearum on nitrogen poor PDA is the reason why my extraction didn't work.  It get CTAB to work I need to grow it on complete media
I tried clean ups with additional chloroform and phenol cleanup, but it was no use.  Thanks for the article, everyone. Sinai I can't wait to read that simple method.
Cheers,
Tom 
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I had used commercial kits from Norgen (Sigma)  and Quiagen. But could not get satisfactory results. In that case what method would be useful for me. Is CTAB method useful in this case?
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Hii...
Rupak Kumar Sarma...
Please find the paper attached that may fruitful for you...
Best wishes..