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A state characterized by loss of feeling or sensation. This depression of nerve function is usually the result of pharmacologic action and is induced to allow performance of surgery or other painful procedures.
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why do some rats die after anesthesia with Ketamine/Xylazine,maintained by isoflurane?
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what dose of xylazine and ketamine you use ?
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What may be the future of Thoracic Segmental Anesthesia in healthy cohorts?
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Can somebody assist me with the intranasal inhalation protocol(detailed or standardized).
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It is essential to use anesthesia and neuromuscular blocking agent before intranasal administration of dust in mice. However, you should have approved protocol from your Institutional Animal Care Committee to do the experiment. In the protocol, you should have provided details on anesthetics etc to be followed.
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I am using isoflurane for anesthesia in Swiss albino mice. However, for the last few weeks, when I give isoflurane to the mice before starting the operation, the mice became slightly dizzy (not fully anaesthetized) before placing them in stereotaxic apparatus, but they suddenly threw their necks back and contracted, and stayed in this way for about 40-45 seconds as if they were having a seizure, then returned to normal. I've never encountered this kind of problem before. Does anyone have any idea about why this is happening or have experienced this before?
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The inability of anesthesia alone to effectively inhibit harmful nervous activity has been understood for more than 100 years but is ignored by modern anesthesiology textbooks and journals. The problem is not limited to strange behavior during induction in animals. It can affect experimental results as well.
Inhalation agents and other types of “hypnotic” drugs inhibit consciousness, and thereby abolish harmful fear and the ability to perceive nociception as pain, but they have negligible effect on spinal cord activity. In humans, this is manifested by spinal cord “windup” syndrome (syndrome meaning “we don’t understand”). As surgical stimulation proceeds, the spinal cord becomes increasingly sensitized in the absence of descending inhibitory signals generated by consciousness (which is abolished by anesthesia). This causes intense muscle “stiffness” or even unexpected movements of limbs in the middle of surgery. Nowadays these problems are controlled by paralysis, but this only masks the spinal cord hyperactivity, which causes sympathetic nervous hyperactivity that undermines organ perfusion and oxygenation. The typical anesthesiologist uses toxic inhalation agent “overpressure” to control the hypertension and tachycardia manifested by this harmful sympathetic hyperactivity. This ignorant approach exaggerates postoperative morbidity, mortality, and pain (allodynia) that is generally ignored or dismissed as unavoidable.
These problems were better understood 100 years ago, but Dr. Ralph Waters founded the anesthesiology profession on false science by characterizing carbon dioxide as “toxic waste, like urine” that must be “rid from the body” using mechanical hyperventilation during anesthesia. He did this to wreck the reputation of the nurses who dominated anesthesia practice after WWI. Unfortunately he created a “hoax” that persists to the present and causes practitioners to believe that they must use hyperventilation to eliminate the mythical problems of carbon dioxide. This ignorant habit confers no benefits, and is exceedingly dangerous. It has cost the lives and health of countless patients in the form of heart disease, cancer, and chronic illnesses, as revealed by the studies of Terri Monk (which are now suppressed and forgotten). Beware of the treacherous ignorance that dominates anesthesia literature. It can pervert your research results.
Another manifestation of this incredibly pervasive ignorance is the use of carbon dioxide for both anesthesia and euthanasia. Carbon dioxide asphyxiation mimics anesthesia, but carbon dioxide has no anesthetic properties.
Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule.---- Friedrich Nietzsche
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I am looking for experts in the field of perioperative hypothermia for a content validation study.
I am very happy if you support me here!
The inclusion criteria are:
  • Certified nurse with at least 4 years of clinical experience in surgical wards.
  • Certified anesthesia nurse/CRNA with a clinical work experience of at least 4 years
  • Certified intensive care nurse with a clinical work experience of at least 4 years
  • Certified operating room nurse with at least 4 years of clinical experience.
I would be glad if you could support me! Please contact me on research gate or via email manuel.schwanda@fhstp.ac.at
Thank you very much for your valuable support!
Warm regards!
Manuel
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I have a problem about rat anesthesia, the situation is that I have Zoletil 50 1mg/ml + xylazine hydrochloride 23.32mg/ml solution that I prepare at the same time from the same source (from the same stock)
I give it to two Wistar rats that both weight 470g, IP 500ul, one rat anesthetizes without problem, but the other one rat fails to anesthetize and stay awake.
This is happening more and more often; I don’t know the reason or how to solve it.
Thank you.
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hi,
What is the injection method?!!!
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I would like to ask anesthesiologists or clinicians who have experienced anesthesia mumps. Was there a case in which the swelling of the parotid gland is associated with a retrograde insufflation of air in the Stensen’s duct and the parotid gland (pneumoparotid)? If you know the literature on anesthesia mumps confirmed by CT as pneumoparotid, I would appreciate it if you could let me know.
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From the following references, I found that "the case introduced by Takelioglu et al. [1] is the first presentation of pneumoparototis as anesthesia mumps [2]". If you have any other literature or experience cases, I would appreciate it if you could let me know.
1. Takelioglu UY, et al. A case of anesthesia mumps after general anesthesia. J Anesth. 2012;26:130-131.
2. Adachi YU, et al. Is it fluid or air causing anesthesia mumps? J Anesth. 2012;26:638-639.
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Drugs of Vedana Sthapana Mahakashya of Charaka Samhita are having Volatile oil contain and fragrance. What will be the applicability in the light of Sangyaharan –anesthesia?
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Dear community,
I was wondering if anesthesia (most likely isofluran) of animals before euthanasia and sampling of internal organs (here reproductive tracts in lizards) for RNA seq might ater the mRNA expression profile?
Would you recommand to perfor the euthanasia without the anesthesia or would you anesthetized them?
Thanks a lot for your answers,
Morgane
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Anesthesia is an intervention that one should expect to alter RNA expression!
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Do C57 mice have to be anesthetized by inhalation before removing the eye to extract blood? Does anyone know the exact anesthesia procedure and is there any relevant literature to recommend? Since the lab is not equipped with an anesthesia machine, is it possible to use the beaker inversion method for anesthesia? Or is there another easy way?
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YES: of course!!
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what is suitable time for preanesthesia evaluation and preparation? 
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Apart from the pre-anesthesia clinic visit regarding fitness, all patients should be seen by the concerned anesthesia team at least a day prior and the plan of anesthesia should also be discussed and any preoperative instruction can be given at that time if required. This gives a sense of bonding between the patients and anesthesiologist in a better way.
For daycare surgeries, where patients directly come from home, the anesthesiologist should visit the patient's preoperative waiting room and meet the patients as early as possible (maybe at least 2 hours prior).
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I have a survey with dichotomous variables and need tetrachoric/polycoric analysis.  I used R module but tried to run it also in SPSS and cannot do polycoric analysis (keep getting a message - could not find function "hetcor").  I checked on extensions and it is telling me that extension HETCOR is installed.  Any suggestions? I am running out of options.  Thank you so much!!!
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This is amazing video explains how to run factor analysis
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In a study there are some animal species need to implement a coronary stent from (femoral artery) and to undergo a laparotomy in order to place a telemetric transponder.
What are the recommended anesthetic drugs that induct anesthesia without affecting the cardiovascular system at the time of procedures for equine?
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Ketamine ,thiopentone has good cardiovascular safety profile .If monitor and anesthetic machine present propofol can be used cautiously.
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I tried to perform SSEP test in rat SCI model but I had the problems in anesthesia. I used the thiopental (that we had in lab.) 30 mg/kg IP, but the rats hadn't good anesthesia or died.
What is the suitable method to anesthesia in somatosensory evoked potential test in rat spinal cord injury model?
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I am delighted to see that you are investigating spinal cord injury. I'm preparing to publish a book that explains the relationships of anesthesia, analgesia, and stress. I'll try to briefly explain the nature of your problem.
Firstly, general anesthetic agents such as Isoforane confer their benefits by inhibiting consciousness. They are no different than intravenous hypnotic agents such as propofol. Both are "hypnotic" agents. The only advantage of inhalation agents is that their effects can be maintained at consistent levels over time, and they are conveyed quickly from lung to brain during induction so that they take effect quickly, and their effects dissipate quickly when they are expelled from the lung.
Neither intravenous nor inhalation hypnotic agents has the ability to inhibit nociception. In fact, they exaggerate nociception pathway activity in the spinal cord. This is because consciousness generates inhibitory signals that descend to the spinal cord and reduce spinal cord nociception activity. This explains why your rats anesthetized rats die when you damage their spinal cords: they suffer exaggerated nociception during anesthesia.
If you administer spinal anesthesia to your anesthetized rats BEFORE you injure their spinal cords, then their death rates will decrease and the severity of their injury will be mitigated. You will achieve the same effect by treating the rats with generous doses of fentanyl BEFORE you injure their spinal cords. This is because both fentanyl and spinal "anesthesia" are genuine analgesics. The term "spinal anesthesia" is a misnomer; it should be called "spinal analgesia", because it has no effect on consciousness.
Optimal surgical outcome requires complimentary combinations of anesthesia AND analgesia. Try reading the attached copies of my previously published papers.
The key to preventing permanent spinal cord damage after spinal cord "shock" syndrome is to prevent the spinal cord inflammation that develops in the aftermath of injury. The spinal cord is trapped in a narrow canal, so that spinal cord inflammation causes spinal cord edema that compromises microvascular tissue perfusion in the injured tissue. This explains why spinal cord function persists fora time after the injury, but then deteriorates and patients ultimately suffer what amounts to spinal cord transection. In theory permanent damage can be prevented by treatment with magnesium sulphate, EDTA, or trisodium citrate, all of which bind to Ca+, which inhibits thrombin generation that causes inflammation.
I am preparing to publish a book via Amazon that will be entitled "50 Years Lost in Medical Advance" in April of this year. I am adding final materials while I await reviews from Nature, Scientific American, and Science.
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Using eugenol to anesthetize freshwater angelfish (Pterophyllum scalare), behavior is apparently affected not only during anesthesia, but also after anesthesia.
The study by Cooke et al. (2004) is interesting.
Cooke, S.J .; Suski, C.D .; Ostranda, K.G .; Tufts, B.L .; Wahl, D.H. Behavioral and physiological assessment of low concentrations of clove oil anesthetic for handling and transporting largemouth bass (Micropterus salmoides). Aquaculture, v.239, p.509-529, 2004.
Are there other studies that have evaluated the behavior of anesthetized fish?
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Is anyone able to tell me why my anaesthetized rats often do a 'double breath', or diaphragmatic breath, like a hiccup (see video). This often begins after 1-2 hours under anesthesia, and can occur every 4th to 10th breath. The rats are anaesthetized with isoflurane (usually set to 1.5L/min). They are ventilated with a mixture of O2 and air (about 30:70). The ventilator is on volume control. When the rats 'double breathe' like this, I can sometimes stop it by turning the tidal volume right up, but this then leads to severe hypocapnia. There is no obvious cause for the development of this abnormal breathing (end tidal CO2 is in the normal range and the rats are not getting light in terms of anesthesia). Can anyone help?
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I too encountered same with ketamine and inhalant isoflurane as well seperately. To best of my knowledge If anaesthesia is adequate and getting such a pattern in respiration indicates sigh breathing in every few breaths in order to ventilate quiescent alveoli. Secondly an inadequate anaesthesia with imbalance of central diaphragmatic innervation and peripheral intercostal innervation on respiration leads asynchronous breathing. Kindly enlighten me if you found anything found interesting
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I am trying to start a protocol involving bilateral cannula implantation in specific brain regions in mice (mPFC, hippocampus). For that, I need to buy an anesthesia system. I found many alternative companies to buy from, but I am particularly interested in MINERVE 1301303. I am also considering WPI EZ-B800 or Kent Scientific SomnoSuite® Low-Flow Anesthesia System. Can anyone give me feedback about these anesthesia systems? Maybe you have other recommendations? I will be grateful for all suggestions.
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Thank you!
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As an anesthesiologist and also perioperative management, is more concerned with the level of blood sugar at the time or during perioperative time. If that time level is ok, then, will it have an effect in management by knowing the last three months status (even if it was poorly controlled)?
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Thank you Dr Habib.
I work in a private facility in Nigeria and most of our surgical patients present for implant / joint /spine surgeries. We do postpone cases for non urgent / non emergent procedures with HbA1c > 8%, even when preop RBS is <200mg%. This is to reduce SSI and other postop morbidity and mortality rates. Other centres accept HbA1c between 8-9%.
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Hi there, 
I am working right now with the urethane to anesthetize mice. When I started I felt that the anesthesia effect was very little reliable, as people commented that the time until the mice were completely anesthetized would vary from 45 min to -sometimes- even 2 or more hours. Some colleagues recommended me to apply the urethane (1.5 gr/kilo) in different dosis (50%-25%-25%, 15 min apart from one to another), which I am doing, although two hours later the animal still has reflexes. I have read studies were the urethane and ketamine are combined. Aproximately 1 hour and a half after the first urethane injection, ketamine is injected to start the surgery, but the problem is that there is nothing written for mice (just rats, at least that I know) and I am struggling because depending on the animal it goes ok, or bad or it has breathing problems only 30 min later (I perform tracheotomy by the way, so that it is why I want the animal to lose the reflexes as soon as possible); is it just me? So, I was wondering if anybody out there was working in a reliable way with urethane in mice. I.e., the dosis of ketamine you apply after the first dosis of urethane, how long after, how long does it take to anesthetize the animal completely, etc.. according your experience? 
I would really appreciate your help.
Thanks!
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Urethane is a useful anesthetic for preserving cardiorespiratory reflexes, however it is far less effective as a surgical anesthetic than isoflurane and ketamine/xylazine. The main advantage of urethane is that it has a wide therapeutic window and is metabolized slowly giving you a long lasting anesthesia. However, as pointed out by a earlier comment, urethane should not be used for recovery surgeries as it is hepatotoxic.
When adminstering I. P., urethane is generally safe and effective between 1.1-1.8g/kg depending on your preparation (I make a 10% solution in sterile water). Inject a 10% solution in two doses separated by 15-30 minutes to avoid chemical burns in the peritoneum. This applies in mice or rats. In mice it can take over an hour for adequate anesthesia, local anesthetics may be needed regardless. If you are struggling, and want to supplement, I'd always go for isoflurane over ketamine because you can titrate isoflurane easily and withdraw it quickly.
Urethane is much more effective when deliver I.V. and I suggest this is a preferable route of administration. This differences between I.P. and I.V. arises because urethane is absorbed by fat (if I remember correctly). Ideally, start the surgery under isoflurane, implant an i.v. catheter then slowly infuse the urethane (1.1-1.3g/kg in a 20% solution over about 20 minutes is ok for this). I find this gives a stable plane of anesthesia with less drug.
As an aside, working with urethane tends to cause mucus secretion in the airways which can lead to asphyxiation. This can be prevented with 1mg/kg methyl-atropine given with the anesthetic (i.v. or i.p.). However, this might interfere with you experimental goals.
Finally, check the age of your urethane. The salt tends to absorb water and should be stored with Drierite. If your drug is old, the weight of the salt may not be an accurate measure of the drug in solution. If you have doubts, buy fresh, this stuff is cheap.
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Hi,
Could we use the chloroform to anesthesia the mices before them euthanasia according to the ethical rules of experiments.
Best regards.
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Of course that's what you mean, but my point is why bother when you can kill the mice directly with chloroform. How is there supposed to be an ethical advantage to first putting them to sleep with chloroform and then killing them by other means, instead of just putting them directly and permanently to sleep with chloroform?
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What is the roles If we want to use frequent Intrathecal administration for rat model (treatment)?
Especially that we need to inject the rats for 7 days under anesthesia?
Please include reference to your answer.
Thanks
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Elwood K Walls Target id L5 and L6. The answer will affect If we are using different treatments?
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I am looking for EEG dataset for anesthesia, please where can I find such dataset?
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where to find dataset for HCI?
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What are the best ways of anesthesia and euthanasia in laboratory rabbits?
What are the best ways of anesthesia and euthanasia in laboratory rabbits and other rodents?
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Hi,
isoflurane is usually the best way to anesthetize rodents, it has many advantages compared to ketamine/xylazine injections and other chemicals. Recovery is very quick and you can adjust the flow and percentage in real time.
For euthanasia, the best way might be depending on your institution IACUC's protocols. I know that the preferred methods in France vs the US differ quite a bit in my area. All of these questions could be asked to them as they will provide approval of the animal protocol and useful advice for you in specific settings.
I hope this helps
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I would like to ask if it's possible to use BIS Quatro Sensor together with a standard 64-channel EEG Cap? What would be the recommended montage in that case?
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Without reason of use to compare topic with global.
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I don't seem to be able to find any complete and fully-featured methodology for dissection of holothuria in order to be able to isolate organs and tissues efficiently. I actually would also like more info regarding the process of anesthesia so that a clean incision may be possible.
Thank you in advance!!
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You may use 5% magnesium chloride (MgCl2) to anesthetize them before measuring their total length and weight.
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The American Society of Anesthesiologists physical status classification has been modified a few times to increase the uniformity. The recent amendment was done in 2014 which has also incorporated some examples against each class. Still, sometimes I feel difficulty in assigning the class especially patients having a history of heavy smoking in the past, tobacco users, cancer patients, patients having multiple controlled or mild co-morbidities, etc. Do you also face the same situation? If so, in which cases?
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Good protocol and initiative! Go ahead Prof Habib Md Reazaul Karim. The following recent article of Anaesthesia may help you a little. Regards- Rabiul.
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The patient should consult which specialty if he wants to know, will he stop aspirin prior to the operation or not? Will he consult the Cardiologist, the surgeon or the anesthesiologist?
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Dear Respected Colleagues ,
Cardiologists, Surgeons and Anesthesiologist All are concerned with this management whether this operation is elective or emergency .... but the main controller for the Pre-operative antiplatelet therapy management is the anesthesiologist with help of the cardiologist ... because the indication for using this antiplatelet theray is mainly for a cardiac problem and rarely for neurological problem ....
Best Regards and Respect
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Several studies have shown that occurrence of Burst Suppression is associated with cognitive complications after surgery and anesthesia and sedation during Intensive Care Management. Recente studies present contradictory evidence...
But we know that BS is not a normal EEG pattern so... ??
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I think the problem is a bit complicated as usual. Association between BS and cognitive problems does not mean causal relation. BS is a abnormal phenomenon in the EEG, that is for sure. However, it may occur due to brain insult such as hypoxia during cardiac arrest. So BS itself might not result the cognitive problem but instead both BS and cognitive problems might be induced by the same cause affecting the brain function.
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Awake craniotomy and related anesthetic techniques in the operating theatre
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This is "my topic"!! There are several anesthetic options (please see attached our editorial in BJA )
Asleep-awake-asleep approach with selective scalp block looks to be the best option: craniotomy is painful and general anesthesia with LMA during that step is highly comfortable for patients.. Propofol and remifentanil, specially with TCI, guided by processed or raw EEG, allows a very close titration of drug doses and fast intraoperative awakening ( PMID DOI: 10.1097/ANA.0b013e31805f66ad).
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Closed loop ansthesia delivery systems typically use TIVA, using propofol or other intra venous drugs. I want to now if there is any system which use inhalational anesthetics to alter the plane of anesthesia .
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i want to observe an outcome difference between the two hand of the same patient. one hand is exposed to a routine intra-operative intervention while the other hand is not. i expect this outcome intra- operatively under anesthesia, and will a prospective cohort study be suitable to study the difference in outcome between the two hands during this short period of time, and if not, what is the more suitable type of observational study
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Would this be more accurately termed a 'case study' if there is just one participant?
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Losing consciousness is always associated with concern of privacy. People often fear more of anesthesia than surgery, which is the primary objective. Anesthetists strive to allay anxiety & make people assured & happy. Share your experiences if you've ever encountered it, please.
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I have had general anesthesia and not happened to me , no fear no enjoyment no suffering only had worried about Hilarious Saying Under Anesthesia and being ashamed after recovery!
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Beyond the events on October 16th, 1846 ("Ether Day"), which stories are worth to be recognised about the history of Anesthesiology? Which are the most impressive, curious, or funny things we should remember?
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These anecdotes are fun reading, but if you really want to learn how real medical science advanced, and how modern anesthesia evolved during the prelude to WWI, you should read Crile's book "Anoci-Anesthesia" that is available free on the Internet. It is a classic. Crile was a master surgeon and serious researcher who built his own dog laboratory and methodically studied pathophysiology. You should also read the screeds of Ralph Waters, the founder of MD anesthesiology, and the publications of Yandell Henderson, who proved the clinical benefits of CO2.
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In my postdoc I always used the anesthesic protocol of ketamine(80mg/kg)/xylazine (10mg/kg) injecting 0,1ml ip for balb-c mice. And it works very well.
However now using Swiss mice from another breeding this protocol is not working. We tryed a higher dose of 100mg/kg ketamine and 16mg/kg of xylazine but stil not working.
Did someone have another ketamine/xylazine protocol for swiss mice anesthesia? (I only have access of this drugs).
Thanks
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Dear Dr. Bonavita, chek out for your route of administration if it does not work.
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54 Y Female who will undergo vaginal hysterectomy along with some issues in the anal canal and bladder.
Medical History:
Atrial Fibrillation (Managed by Bisoprolol 2.5 mg once daily)
Chronic venous insufficiency (Managed by Daflon one tablet once daily)
Allergic Rhinitis (Managed by Cetirizine 10 mg once daily)
Non alcoholic fatty liver disease
Past (maybe relevant history) - She went 2 years ago to the ICU because she lost abnormal amounts of blood along with AFib episode which required blood transfusion, during her stay in the ICU, some symptoms and abnormalities occurred like Fever and Superficial thrombophlebitis.
Beside this, some signs and symptoms that the cardiologist agreed not to investigate the cause and there is no need to (After he investigated the Echocardiogram, Blood pressure, ECG : Occassional dyspnea, some symptoms that mimic coronary artery disease like Chest pain.
The Anesthesiologist plan according to this history and CBC and some questions that I can post answers to if you asked them:
General Anesthesia and she shouldn't discontinue Daflon and should take Enoxaparin two days consequently prior to the surgery.
My Q is, is prophylaxis using Enoxaparin considered to be good? Also what about Daflon, should she continue using it? Final one, does she need to stop dietary garlic 7 days prior to the surgery because the Anesthesiologist forgot to mention this one ?
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Do we not encounter this problem daily or weekly? How long do we have between preoperative evaluation and DOS? Are we seeing the patient in the preoperative holding area? Time is the key in planning but not necessarily a game stopper if seen morning of surgery. If seen a week or more ahead, I concur with previous answers. If seen the morning of, GETA (probably TIVA) . Is this laparoscopic assisted? If so, bilateral erector spinae plane blocks for postoperative pain control.
Regards,
Christopher
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I wanted to induce bacterila infection to the mmice and we have alwaays performed it in normal conditions by restraining the mouse but would it make a difference when we give small dose of isoflurane and then inject via tail vein?
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I think you can induce infection with out using anesthesia or you can use some anesthetic agents out of vein to induce the state of local ischemia
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what type of anesthesia you do for patients with CSDH? Are you interested to contribute with an RCT for awake vs GA in patients with CSDH?
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Hii
I hope you are using the CSDH for Chronic Subdural Haematoma
I have personally used Scalp block and sedation, and General Anaesthesia both for chronic subdural haematoma. As usual, Scalp block and sedation needs cooperative patients, if not already comatose. Drugs used for General Anaesthesia at present can be tailored for rapid recovery. Scalp block can be used for analgesia in patients done under General Anaesthesia, as well to reduce the opioid use. As long as patients comfort, recovery and pain is taken care of; any modality is good. The best can be found by an RCT. Best wishes for your project
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what type of anesthesia you do for patients with CSDH? Are you interested to contribute with an RCT for awake vs GA in patients with CSDH?
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I have personally used Scalp block and sedation and general Anaesthesia both for chronic subdural haematoma. As usual, Scalp block and sedation needs cooperative patients. Drugs used for general Anaesthesia at present can be tailored for rapid recovery. Scalp block can be used for analgesia in patients done under general Anaesthesia as well to reduce opioid use. As long as patients comfort, recovery and pain is taken care of, any modality is good. The best can be found by an RCT. Best wishes for your project
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what type of anesthesia you do for patients with CSDH? Are you interested to contribute with an RCT for awake vs GA in patients with CSDH?
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We usually provide anaesthesia by regional scalp blockade (awake) for evacuation of the CSDH, but sometimes its require GA.
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In spite of the metaanalysis (Does central venous pressure predict fluid responsiveness? A systematic review of the literature and the tale of seven mares). Published in the
Chest. 2008 Jul;134(1):172-8.
Marik PE, Baram M, Vahid B, with the Conclusion:
(This systematic review demonstrated a very poor relationship between CVP and blood volume as well as the inability of CVP/DeltaCVP to predict the hemodynamic response to a fluid challenge. CVP should not be used to make clinical decisions regarding fluid management.) CVP may still the most widely used monitor for fluid management worldwide, do think that is true? Do you think it is accepted practice? And why?
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Interesting..
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In the view, use of ultrasound has improved regional anesthesia technique, RA could be choice of Anesthesia for various surgical procedure!
General Anesthesia is ofcourse safe way to proctect airway.
What is current opinions for choice of anesthesia when NPO status is not adequate? GA vs RA?
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Regional anesthesia is safe in such conditions. According to Michael Robinson et al published inBJA Education. https://academic.oup.com/bjaed/article/14/4/171/293792
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In sleep, brain activity, specially in the default mode network (DMN) is reduced. For example, Amyloid beta production by neurons has a 70 % jump in wakefulness compared with sleep (Kress et al. 2018 J Exper Med). Can one assume that the same would happen in case of coma, or anaesthesia? Are they similar at all in terms of brain activity?
As I searched, it seems we are able to induce an artificial coma, like what we do for anaesthesia? If so, how long could it last at most?
The last but not least, have people taken effect systematic MRI during comma, anaesthesia, and sleep?
I thank you in advance for your help.
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Hi.
Yes they are differ, there are difference in the state of the brain among coma, sleep, and anaesthesia.
I recomend to read this article, it exlain the differences very clear.
General Anesthesia, Sleep, and Coma
Emery N. Brown, M.D., Ph.D., Ralph Lydic, Ph.D., and Nicholas D. Schiff, M.D.Author
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My group and I have developed a pre-anesthesia health assessment screening questionnaire. We would like to validate if the questionnaire can be administered by patients on their own before their interview with anesthetist. The gold standard method at the clinic involves the nurse anesthetist interviewing the patient using a questionnaire. The literature describes two methods: (1) the anesthesia caregiver interviews the patient but is blinded to the responses provided by the patient; (2) the anesthetist checks the patient's responses during the interview by reading out the question and confirming the answer. The published studies did not explain why the methods described above were used. For a questionnaire validation study, which method would be appropriate? Which would yield the least biased assessment and what advantages and disadvantages would it have? Which would be the most ethical?
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Thank-you for your very helpful comments Ahsan Ali Siddiqui , Ram Bajpai and Ian Ewart . It is not easy as one has thought and several factors are to be considered.
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I am wondering if there is an article showing that the Modified Aldrete Scale is valid for use in children after anesthesia.
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Although the Society for Pediatric Sedation Policy Template January 2016 states to assess recovery by Modified Aldrete Score ( one of the few scores mentioned), the literature validating this score is probably not there. An older study which used Post Anaesthesia Recovery Score (which had parameters which resembles with modified Aldrete Score), found ineffective in predicting hypoxia in postop (Soliman Iris E et al. Anesthesia & Analgesia: January 1988). The use of Modified Aldrete Score in very young children may not be much feasible as they may not obey command also. I am attaching the DPS policy template herewith, it may help you
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Though there are several animal studies but detailed method of anesthesia was not mentioned. So I need a method with proper reference.
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Interesting answers…Opinions and philosophy are the last things that are needed here. I am really wondering who is doing "your" experiments? Some slave-students?
Dharmendra,
1. Any extreme overdose of an anesthetic given i.p. (intra peritoneal – which is easy for the beguilers) will do.
2. You may accelerate/induce the exitus when animal is deep in anesthesia, by quick laparatomy and section of aorta.
3. If the animal is in deep anesthesia already, intracardial injection of saturated KCL about 0.3ml or more is the best.
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I tried to find GAPDH from mice brain after anesthesia, Using Kit, I find RNA and then cDNA. However, I get the band but the thickness is not like that what I desired. So what to do to get a thick band.
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Transesophageal echocardiography for mitral regurgitation
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MR anesthesia for MVR or repair, requires TEE evaluation. During evaluation under anesthesia we should also consider the underestimation of grading of MR.
For noncardiac anesthesia can be used TEE but the change in manahement may not be achieved well.
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My animals are rat , p15-p20
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ketamine hydrochloride dose 20 - 100 mg/kg im
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Sometime it has been seen that surgical team approach the patient party / attendant for a radical procedure (for example - consent taken and planned for cystectomy and introp surgeon decided to do hysterectomy) in an general anaesthetized patient. Is it valid or acceptable? The operation is elective, patient is otherwise capable to give consent when awake and consent; taking consent from attendant / party isn't against patients autonomy?
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If the surgeon performs an operation to which the patient has not consented he may be liable for battery. If the patient has only been informed of the procedure involving a cystectomy then she is unlikely to have given consent to the much more radical intervention of a hysterectomy. The problem with the type of consent needed in battery lies ‘in working out when the information about a proposed treatment is so fundamental that, without it, consent must be regarded as ineffective’ SA McLean (ed), First Do No Harm: Law, Ethics and Healthcare (Ashgate 2006) 276. Would the removal of the uterus not be such a fundamental information? In any case, it is the patient herself who has to give consent and not some other member of the family unless she has agreed before the surgery that she is happy for any decision to be taken on her behalf by that other family member.
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What is the best way to anaesthetise small freshwater fishes (e.g. Gambusia) for quick recovery and minimum stress?
Ice water/ clove oil/ anything else?
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Hi Upama,
I was using clove oil for Dicentrarchus labrax of all sizes during my thesis and it worked very well. I recommend it.
Kind regards,
Geneviève
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Is there anyone who knows/or has made/written/done, and validated, a questionnaire for follow-up phone calls to parents of children who have undergone anesthesia in day surgery?
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actually we adopted the saying: no news, good news.
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I think no other person knows a surgeon better than an anaesthesiologist as a professional especially about the surgical skill and quality. (because they closely observe different surgeons of same and different specialty). Many a time even a highly qualified surgeon is very poor in skill and delivers very poor for the patient. (The same may be true for anaesthesiologist too). This in turn leads to unwanted morbidity and even mortality. Anaesthesiologist is equally or may be more responsible for the well being of the patient during perioperative and especially intraoperative period. So, if the anaesthesiologist knows that the surgeon supposed to do the case is not good enough for the proposed surgery, can anaesthesiologist refuse to give (anaesthetize) the case?
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I would be very careful to pass judgement on a colleague's competency in a speciality other than my own. Are you qualified to judge? are you a trained surgeon?
What would you achieve by declining the case - are you protecting the patient, or yourself? If he is truly incompetent and you decline the case, will your place be taken by an anaesthesiologist who is unaware of the surgeon's incompetence? In this situation the patient might be in even greater peril.
Another issue is what are the results of the surgeon's incompetence? Is there an obvious problem such as increased mortality or morbidity - do his cases bleed more and more often require transfusions? How do you see his incompetence in the OR - is he clumsy, does he perform the wrong procedures? (assuming you would know what the correct ones are). Does he have an increased rate of emergency reopening? etc., etc.
You are potentially opening a can of worms. It is important that you share your concerns with a senior colleague.
This sort of situation is best dealt with quietly and confidentially by a hospital board of senior, experienced clinicians to whom you might express your concerns and seek advice.
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When Stanley Malamed, in his books and many of his papers, writes that " IANB has the highest failure rate among all local anesthetic blocks in Medicine - not only in dental local anesthesia : are there any data in the medical literature backing this assertion, or do you think it is simply a fact that he personnaly observed or experienced as a dentist-anesthesiologist, without scientific evidence ? In the first case, are there references readily availa and if so, could anybody  let me know how and where I can get it ?
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I thank Mr. Alok Dubey for his very ingenious metaphorical allusions to a medieval European legend ( even though there is much to discuss about the adequacy and comprehensibility of his curious parallels) and his very entertaining and subtle zoological analogies (although they sound a bit farfetched) : I do praise Mr. Dubey for his generous spirit of invention, which allows us to enjoy his devastating humor.
However, I doubt that these reflections are likely to enlighten the primary subject.
I would like to clarify -with serenity and courtesy, but without doublespeak- on both the substance and the form of Mr. Dubey’s intervention.
1-On the content itself:
I am afraid that Mr. Dubey did not read with sufficient attention the original question, nor, moreover, the various contributions, some of them, in particular those by Dr. Daniel Uzbelger Feldman, demonstrating a perfect analysis and understanding of my interrogations.
I need to stress, again, that I am not the author of the statement that “the IANB has the lowest success rate in medicine” (not only in dentistry): it is Prof. Stanley Malamed, who is, as far as I understand, a universally recognized specialist in Oral Anesthesia. Having said that, I tend to agree with Dr Malamed’s opinion; the only thing that still annoys me (a little) is the fact that he did not explain to us how he came to this conclusion, despite repeated requests (directly or via internet).
Precisely, my question was: How did Stanley Malamed come to this assertion?
The question was not: “Does the block of NAI have a reduced success rate?”, because there is a vast consensus on the subject, as shown in any up-to-date books dealing with dental anesthesia.
For example:
Alfred Reader, John Nusstein, Melissa Drum: Successful local anesthesia for restorative dentistry and Endodontics. Second edition. Hanover Park, IL: Quintessence Publishing Co Inc, 2017.
Mr. Dubey explains:
” THE AUTHOR WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT HE IS NOT AWARE OF THE EFFICACY OF THE BLOCK.” (sic)
I am perfectly aware of the efficacy of the IANB, particularly during surgeries (but the necessity of administrating a buccal nerve block might reinforce the global success rate of the IANB), and even more aware of its lack of efficacy in many cases: the authors of the book cited above, after reviewing not less than 21 articles, write, page 42:
“Table 2-1 shows the percentage of success rates in various mandibular teeth. It is important to realize that 100% of the subjects in these studies had profound lip numbness. [2–19,21–23] Success occurs most often in the molars and premolars and less often in the incisors.
IN CONCLUSION, anesthetic success varies from 51% in the first molar to 10% in the central incisor
even though patients have profound lip numbness.”
End of citation.
Anyone who treats endodontically symptomatic mandibular posterior teeth, and reads these articles knows that this question is pointless.
In chapter 2, dealing with mandibular anesthesia, no less than 19 pages (out of the 43 pages of the chapter) explain why and how IANB fails, and how to improve its success rate.
So that the conclusion drawn by Mr. Dubey seems a bit inadequate:
“Even the dumbest of the final year student who has ever given IANB in a proper manner is well versed of its efficacy. SO BASICALLY, THIS DISCUSSION IS FOR THOSE ARE NOT CLEAR WITH THEIR BASICS OF GIVING LA & WANT TO IMPOSE THEIR FAILURE/ INEFFICIENCY OVER IANB BLOCK” (re sic)
The barely subliminal message delivered by Mr. Dubey is that I am unable to administer IAN blocks (I probably compare –not favorably, I am afraid- with the “dumbest of the final year student”), solely because I dare ask a (semantic, not technical) question. He implies that he himself has a remarkable success rate in that exercise: no one doubts it and we all welcome his abilities.
At the end of his diatribe, Mr. Dubey writes:
“SO, I WOULD REQUEST ALL TO END UP THIS DISCUSSION (MISLEADING CONCEPTIONS OR SHOULD I SAY MISCONCEPTION) & DISCUSS ANY TOPIC WHICH WILL THROW SOME LIGHT ON ANY UNTOUCHED TOPIC”.
This final injunction proves to be highly comical when we read the vital and innovative questions that Mr. Dubey proposed, two months ago, at the sagacity of the scientific community (Mr. Dubey has a very personal concept of an “untouched topic”):
- “What is the amount (mg) of lignocaine in 1.8ml carpule of local anesthesia?”
- “What is the maximum recommended dose of 2% lignocaine with vasoconstrictor in a child?”
I do not intend to be unnecessarily cruel, but I must recall that Mr. Dubey is, officially, « Associate Professor in the Department of Pedodontics and Preventive Dentistry, College of Dentistry, Jazan University, Jazan, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia”, and tells us, in his Researchgate profile, that his skills include « anesthesia, pediatric anesthesia, toxicity », amongst numerous capabilities.
So that, after responding his first question, and discovering the second one, I thought it was not incongruous to wonder why an Associate Professor in Pedodontics is led to make such simplistic demands, whereas, by his function itself, this topic is precisely what he is supposed to know, and a fortiori, to teach. Therefore, considering the utterly absurd aspect of the situation, I suggested that the author of such questions probably needed to artificially increase his "visibility" on Researchgate.
I can certainly understand that Mr. Dubey is not absolutely delighted that I made such a hypothesis. For now, and awaiting further explanations, I reiterate my view and I sign.
This rather epic episode explains Mr. Dubey's wrath towards me; but it gives us no satisfactory explanation on the reasons why he asks such basic questions, considering his prominent situation in his university.
May I also stress that his intervention did not allow any sort of progress for my initial questioning.
2-On the form:
Mr. Dubey probably believes that stressing all his text by using capital letters provides it with some additional profoundness. For example:
“LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST:
THE CHEETAH WHO BAGS FINAL POSITION IN THE RACE WITH OTHER CHEETAHS MIGHT BE LAST .....
BUT THAT WOULD BE OUR STUPIDITY TO DISCUSS "DOES THE CHEETAH IN FINAL POSITION KNOW HOW TO RUN?"
I am reasonably confident that -nearly – all readers in Researchgate globally understand what they are reading, and do not need any typographic alteration to detect the main points in a text.
As a rule, the greatest statements are rarely shouted. It is considered disrespectful and rude to others using all caps. People "in the know", those who are convinced of the accuracy of their speech do not use all caps. The so-called “Netiquette” very wisely suggests refraining from using all capitals ...Moreover, ultimately, underlining a whole text stresses nothing: it is of no use or interest.
Finally, as proof that I am not a bad bugger, and in order to conclude in a pleasant positive way, I will give Mr. Dubey a personal opinion (this is not a tip, I would not dare!): to treat your pediatric patients, rather than using an IANB, try to administer an intraosseous anesthesia, using a Quicksleeper : immediate onset, profound analgesia, and lack of lip, tongue, cheek anesthesia, perfectly well tolerated by children, possibility of treating in more than one quadrant, minimal amount of anesthetic solution... And it works with a remarkable success rate for MIH. Who could reasonably ask for anything more? You will thank me, for sure…
If you would like further details, I will be more than happy to provide you with all the necessary information.
Dr Thierry COLLIER.
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Is genomics in Anesthesia practice evolving? When will genomic testing be part of the pre-anesthesia work up?
Simon Body published an interesting paper in 2009 but I haven't seen the conversation continue. I'm wondering if anyone in the community is working in this area.
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Christopher,
Yes, I believe one day we can achieve this when citizens' genomic/epigenome infomation (analyzed) are all ready and stored in a database. So, once a patience arrives, doctors can get the info in a jiffy. I recently watched a movie called 'Blade Runner 2049'. It involves some of this concept. A pretty good movie.
In the future, a lot of disease treatments will become 'individualized', including the use of the red-hot CRISPR/Cas9 technology. Recent report indicates that for a better treatment with CRISPR/Cas9 technology, a person's genomic data needs be known in advance (including SNPs). Only with these data, the patients can get the best results from this technology's treatment.
Thanks for your question.
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Standard precautions are meant to reduce the risk of transmission of bloodborne and other pathogens from both recognized and unrecognized sources. (WHO) It is also recommended to assume that every person is potentially infected or colonized with an organism that could be transmitted in the health-care setting and apply the following infection control practices during the delivery of health care. (Guideline recommendation). Personal Protective equipment are to be used as one such measure. But I am unable to find whether the OT table and floor should also be covered with plastic? Please give your opinion with logic (reasoning) and evidences.
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The built environment should be appropriate to allow cleaning and disinfection e.g. Impervious and intact surfaces for floors , walls , coverings on the mattresses, that allow ease of cleaning and prevent ingress. The principles of environmental decontamention after any patient is based on cleaning then disinfection if needed Including after spillage of blood or body fluids or patient known to be infected e.g. MRSA! CPE etc . All medical devices which includes the theatre table and any device used for treatment and therapy must be provided with manufacturer instructions for decontamination which must include method, product for risk levels of contamination low, medium, high risk!. In the UK, decontamination is guided by medical devices directives and Health technical memorandum's on decon. There are also national standards for environmental cleanliness and infection control in the built environment guidance to refer to. Therefore plastic covering for floor and table is not needed as the environment should be appropriate to prevent infection and allow decontaminationalongside management and decontamination of equipment and medical devices.
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Cost is always a concern in the present health care delivery, even in developed countries. The prevalence of such disease is quite low (in most of the area of the world). In such scenario, doing these tests in all patients costs billion. Is this cost-effective? if it should be done mandatorily, why? Or, should these tests be done based on history and examination?
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No, all patients should be considered as infectious. as there is a window period during which the patient is more infectious inspite of testing negative.
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Cost-effective yet quality health care delivery is one important objective worldwide now. Routine testing costs billion but without much impact. If a patient is not having pallore preop, planned for intermediate surgery; is it justified that only to know MABL and be prepared for unexpected hemorrhage, we should do preop Hb level? Hb level can even be done in point of care facility in such unexpected situations to decide transfusion...so, will it be a deficit if Hb not done in preop?
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What you call intermediate surgeries encompass a vast majority of procedures, some of them being with a higher risk of unexpected hemorrhages. So, In my practice, pre-op Hb for similar operations is mandatory in order to avoid troubles when unexpected bleeding occurs. Moreover, we have in the algorityms and protocols of our health care system such a requirement for lab minimum parameters for different grade of surgeries. It should be fulfilled.
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Research shows that medic legal apprehension is a big factor contributing towards the continued practice of routine preoperative testing. [doi:10.4103/ija.IJA_92_17] Whereas it is very much evident that routine preoperative laboratory testing is unnecessary and is not recommended.
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Attempt to change the laws in your country.
Dennis
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Yes, urethane can induce a long lasting and deep level of anesthesia, but my problem is that it take a long time to induce the anesthesia, even if I use the dose 1,2 g/kg IP for rats. Does anyone have experience with this problem and maybe could help or give advice?
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Beate,
the foot withdrawal reflex is not really a good indication of anesthesia. It is commonly (ab)used because it is easily accessible. Unfortunately, it does not disappair before the level of anesthesia is very deep. This contributes to the rather high fatality rate associated with anestesia of rodents. What is commonly used to monitor anesthesia in other species is the location and shape of the pupilla, in combination with the palpebral or corneal reflex.
Assessment of anesthetic depth is particularly complicated when using dissociative agents like urethane, ketamine or tiletamine. A patient might appear to be awake while under influence of these drugs, but nevertheless be under full surgical grade anesthesia. What this means, paradoxically, is that you should not worry to much about oberved movement in the patient while using these drugs. Movement is a poor indication of wakefulness when using dissociative agents to achieve anesthesia.
You can monitor the patient's pain responses if you have equipment to measure the heart and respiration rates. They will increase if you do something the patient perceives as painful. A pulse oximeter will give you the heart rate and in addition monitor the blood oxygenation level. Mind you, the fast heart rate in small rodents means you must use special equitment, e.g. the small rodent pulseoximeter produced by Kent Scientific. Over the counter veterinary euipment is not applicable.
Further, you can use bupivacaine with epinephrine (marketed as Marcain-Adrenalin in Europe) to induce a local nerve block, typically by injecting above the eyes if you plan to do surgery on the top of the skull. Use an insulin or Hamilton syringe to deposit the local anesthetic. Lidocaine is rather toxic to rodents and should be avoided, but in my expericence bupivacaine with epinephrine is well tolerated. With successful local anesthesia, you do not need more than moderate to heavy sedation to perform surgery on a patient.
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Thank you everyone for your answers!
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In addition to the above-mentioned, below are the points for further discussion.
1. Ischemia-reperfusion of 60 min normally does not lead to liver infarction (thus mortality should not be high).
2. How did you realize 70% partial liver ischemia?
3. You may try a suture single detachable knot instead of a clamp.
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8-16 mg codeine po q8h and 20 mg IM lidocaine HCl : are they absolutely contraindicated for patients with:
-hypertension
-arrhythmias with pacemaker. 
Or they can be given under medical advice in certain conditions?
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These medications are not absolutely contra-indicated in patients with hypertension or a pacemaker. 
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i need 15 minutes of the animal in anesthetic condition prescribed dose of  ketamine is -80 mg/kg and for xylazine 10 mg/kg, why we can not use either ketamine or xylazine,  plz let me know ?
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Follow the advice of Drs. Falsby and de Sagura.
The other people should read more and have more experience. Yet some ignorance is simply shocking. Why don't you talk to some anesthesiologist before speculating? Ketamine has been and is still used in war surgery as almost perfect anesthetic and analgesic. Muscle (thorax) rigidity is a rare and not well documented condition. Addition of sedatives diminishes dissociative effects (hallucinations and similar) and "may" relax muscles. In rat anesthesia this is of little relevance if you are not measuring respiratory parameters - and hardly anybody does it in rats because rat is not very good model for respiratory mechanics measurements anyway. However, ketamine has relatively short action and addition of other long agents may mask fading away of its analgesic effects - what is the most frequent mistake in animal anesthesia when ketamine is used!
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Non responsive geriatrics's pt after cardiac surgery-not waking from anesthesia .
Advise/article to assist in the waking of a 79 petite woman who underwent cardiac redo surgery of mitral valve over a week ago and has not woken from duty. Suffered renal damage from surgery and creating high at 2.7. Eeg and ct done nothing significant, neuro eval insignificant.  On fentanyl and ketamine- introducing  Seraquil. Pt flayles and is agitated and secured to bed but non responsive-any advise? Thanks 
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Ganine,
Do you ever choose dexmedetomidine to decrease need for narcotic and to decrease agitation? It's a "two-for"!
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i intent to know whether anesthesia is necessary or not. also what type of capillaries are best for the procedure. 
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Dear Colleagues,
During electropysiological recordings from rat brain we observe that Evoked LFP responses can change based on anesthesia depth over time. Even if you keep the vaporizer flow at the same level, the anesthesia effect will change in time, decrease or increase and it will directly  effect  the recordings.
1) I need to, non-invasively, measure anesthesia depth, what do you think would be the best? 
This is what I know:
       Since we are recording LFP signals, we can make an estimate from LFP activities but I am not sure how to use LFPs for this. Would   measuring the frequency UP and DOWN states would be enough?
      Some people say EEG is best but I we dont want to use this if possible, our setup has some restriction for this.
      Heart rate and blood pressure could be good but which sensors  would be ideal?  We would connect the output of the sensor to our recording board for continuous recording.
Any help with references or from personal experience would be appreciated. 
Thank you
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Thanks Hannah Gill, sorry, I just saw your reply. 
Age is 8-12 weeks usually. When we start recording, they are already under anesthesia for 3-4 hours and we keep them for 3-4 more hours, 7-8 hours in total.  Yes animals breath spontaneously, if you mean natural breathing. 
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what the causes  that prevent from uses the local in this animal
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Muslim Diwan,
The size of your laboratory animals would dictate the maximum dose of local anesthetic. If your lab animals are small, the effective volume of local anesthesia could be toxic. 
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We are doing survival surgery on the spinal cords of Sprague-Dawley rats but our animals are not surviving after surgery. We are using isoflurane for 5 minutes in the beginning to induce and then using an I.P injection of a ketamine/xylazine cocktail at 90mg/kg ketamine and 4mg/kg xylazine. We then move them to a cage with a heat lamp. We never had this issue before but now a majority of our rats are dying after the surgery is complete and we don't what we can adjust to keep them alive. 
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I had a very high mortality when i keept them in the heating pad for a long time. So, don t use the lamp because you might be overheating them and the anesthesia blocks the termoregulation. Heating pad at 37 degress is the best, but swicht off sometimes if they have signs of hyperventilation.
I also add buprenorphine to the mix and use lower dose of ketamine (75mg/kg).
Good luck!
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Dear colleagues. I am interested in knowing methods and appares for measuring intraocular pressure using transportable and reliable devices that do not require anesthesia or connection to electric current. Someone could tell me, based on your experience, models or references of tonometers that meet these characteristics. Thank you very much in advance.
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Dear Jorge, you can use digital tonometer available in market for measuring intraocular pressure. These tonometer are based on applation tonometery. These are quite accurate and doesnot require special expertise to use. You need to buy tonometer along with disposable ocular films for each patient. 
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I would like to know which cocktail of anaesthesia do you use for the transgenic line 5xFAD Tg6799. We have tried to use a cocktail of ketamine/rompun but specially female do not perform well and males have sometimes epileptic seizures.
We do not have the infrastructure to use isofluorane, so we won't use it.
Any help is welcome. Thank you.
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  • Ether fumes will cause an environmental contamination without proper remediation. What are your infrastructure barriers to using ISO?
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Ultrasound has been used for different functions, what is its role in the diagnosis, evaluation and evolution of intra-abdominal hypertension?
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I have not seen such report yet. however, several parameters may be helpful such as distension of inferior vena cava, need exclusion of volume depletion.  
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Noticing that the incidence of PONV in Laparoscopic gastric bypass and sleeve gastrectomy patients appears higher than other laparoscopic and gynecology cases. Has anyone else noticed this phenomenon? What are you using for prophylaxis?
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Dear Dr A Smith
I suggest to read this nice paper:
Eur J Anaesthesiol. 2016 Dec;33(12):898-905.
Impact of a prophylactic combination of dexamethasone-ondansetron on postoperative nausea and vomiting in obese adult patients undergoing laparoscopic sleeve gastrectomy during closed-loop propofol-remifentanil anaesthesia: A randomised double-blind placebo-controlled study.
Bataille A1, Letourneulx JF, Charmeau A, Lemedioni P, Léger P, Chazot T, Le Guen M, Diemunsch P, Fischler M, Liu N.
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BACKGROUND:
In obese patients, the incidence of postoperative nausea and vomiting (PONV) following sleeve gastrectomy under titration of total intravenous anaesthesia (TIVA) and the relevance of risk factors to indicate prophylaxis is unknown.
OBJECTIVES:
The hypothesis was that after automated TIVA, prophylaxis reduces PONV following laparoscopic sleeve gastrectomy. Our objective was to determine the incidence of PONV and evaluate the efficacy of dexamethasone and ondansetron as prophylaxis when automated intravenous anaesthesia is employed.
DESIGN:
A randomised, placebo-controlled, single-centre, double-blinded study.
SETTING:
Secondary care centre in New Caledonia from June 2013 to January 2014.
PATIENTS:
A total of 122 patients were randomised and 117 (92 women) were included in the analysis (58 in the prophylaxis group and 59 in the placebo group). Eligibility criteria included at least two of the known risk factors for PONV: female sex, nonsmoking status, prior history of PONV or motion sickness and expected postoperative opioid analgesia. Exclusion criteria included disorders limiting the use of the bispectral index.
INTERVENTIONS:
All patients received propofol and remifentanil controlled by the same automated system during induction and maintenance of general anaesthesia. The controller modifies the calculated effect-site concentrations according to bispectral index values. Patients received either intravenous dexamethasone 4 mg after tracheal intubation and ondansetron 4 mg during skin closure, or placebo.
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:
The primary endpoint was the cumulative incidences of 24-h PONV and severe PONV (vomiting or nausea with a score of ≥4 on an 11-point verbal rating scale). Data are presented as percentage (95% confidence interval).
RESULTS:
PONV in the first 24 h occurred in 45 (34 to 60)% of patients who received prophylaxis and 54 (41 to 67)% in the placebo group (P = 0.35). The numbers of patients who suffered severe PONV [19 (10 to 32)% in the prophylaxis group vs. 20 (11 to 33)%, P = 1, in the placebo group] and who required rescue antiemetic drugs [55 (41 to 68) vs. 63 (49 to 75)%, P = 0.46] were similar between the groups.
CONCLUSION:
The combination of dexamethasone and ondansetron was not effective in preventing PONV or severe PONV in obese patients undergoing laparoscopic sleeve gastrectomy after TIVA.
TRIAL REGISTRATION:
Clinicaltrials.gov identifier: NCT01876290.
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I am looking for software (free or paid) that allows monitoring data to be extracted from the GE Carescape B850 anesthetic monitor. Ideally the data should be downloadable in a CSV or Excel file.
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Monitor2 by James Derrick (Prince of Wales Hospital, Hong Kong) is available on the App Store (Free) for use on MacOS. Works well and produces nicely formatted charts but also can download data for further analysis in a spreadsheet or stats package.
The  VSCapture - from Sourceforge (a C# .NET program) is more basic but provides simple logging of data - I think as frequently as every 5s. The later requires  a framework such as Mono or  Xamarin to run in but once running is very simple and distraction free. Cross platform and should even run on Android though haven't tried this.
Both will need a mechanism to connect to the anaesthetic machine. The GE official sanctioned way requires the use of an ATEN UC-232A USB to serial adapter (connected to the 4th USB port), a null modem connector and a further serial to USB to get the data into the collecting device. (as https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John_Karippacheril identified above)
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Use both age and weight
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Would it be bispectral index or exhausted anaesthetic gas from CPB circuit (analogue to end tidal anaesthetic gas)?
Many thanks for your time and atttention,
Ka
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Dear Ka,
Attached please find the requested pdf file.
Regarding the End-tidal approach, please see the following text: 
End-tidal Control is intended for use during inhalational anaesthesia and needs a controlled patient airway to be in place, for example an endotracheal tube or laryngeal mask airway.
End-tidal Control cannot be used with a face-mask airway, or with halothane as the anaesthetic agent, or while the module is in non‑circle circuit, cardiac bypass, alternate oxygen, and air‑only modes. It is recommended that End‑tidal Control is not used during surgical procedures that cause disturbance to the lungs, such as chest surgery. The system may deliver 100% oxygen in End-tidal Control mode, therefore End-tidal Control mode should not be used when delivery of 100% oxygen may injure the patient (for example, in premature neonates in whom excessive inspired oxygen concentrations can cause retinopathy, or in patients with some forms of congenital heart disease). End-tidal Control mode stops if the anaesthetic is changed while the module is active. The manufacturer recommends exiting End-tidal Control mode before changing the anaesthetic. However, it is not routine practice to change anaesthetic agent between the anaesthetic room and the operating theatre.
The manufacturer does not specify a lower age limit for End-tidal Control, however specified respiratory rates (35 breaths per minute or less) must be met, and the system must be registering a minute volume.
The following link contains a publication on this approach.
Hoping this will be helpful,
Rafik
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Is there any well documented study(ies) supporting the statement by John Meechan in his book “Practical dental anesthesia” that epinephrine added to dental local anesthetic formulations modifies the distribution of blood in the body and sends relatively more to the brain, so that epinephrine might increase the toxicity of local anesthetic molecules on the Central Nervous System ?
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In theory John Meechan's comments make sense as the effects of the adrenaline as described can increase the delivery of lignocaine to brain. But i am not sure the small amount of epinephrine injected locally (1 in 80,000 adrenaline is 12.5 microgm per ml) can cause a significant systemic effect. 
I am sure you already know that epinephrine added to lignocaine is known to cause local vasoconstriction which helps to minimise the bleeding and also decrease the systemic absorption of lignocaine thus causing decreased plasma levels while improving the depth and duration of block. Hence the actual risks of increased toxicity if there are any as suggested by him hopefully would be nullified. I haven't come across any studies or any other expert opinion to support that there is risk of increased toxicity when combining adrenaline with lignocaine. The confounding factors, i suppose, are the higher dose that is allowable with adrenaline and inadvertent intravascular injection of some of it.  
At the end of the day, the sensible thing to do is to keep the dose to as minimum as possible and exercising caution in detecting and avoiding intravascular spillage especially when using LA combinations in highly vascular areas.   
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