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I am evaluating a structural measurement through CFA with 7 variables.
The model fit indices are good, except for the value of CMIN, which is 5.790 > 5, violating the criteria.
Sample size = 1034
Can you help explain why it happens?
Is it acceptable for this violating value?
If yes, could you provide sources to cite in the paper?
If no, how to fix it?
The results of CFA was attached.
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A chi-square value that is more than five times as large as its degrees of freedom points to substantial misfit/misspecification of your model. I don't think that non-normality alone accounts for this rather poor fit. Your model is quite large with many indicators and many factors. The poor chi-square fit indicates that there may be some inhomogeneities of the indicators (violations of unidimensionality). I would inspect standardized covariance residuals to examine which covariances are not well explained by your model.
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Hi there,
I am running AMOS 21 pattern matrix builder plugin for EFA to CFA. I am receiving certain type of error while set up the pattern matrix builder.
I have attached here screenshot of this error. pls guide me how to resolve this or any other alternative to use it.
Thank you for your kind consideration.
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Puja Vora Thanks for reaching out. I hope you had a joyous break. Yes, I am still unable to figure it out.
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Hello,
I want to use a binary categorical independent variable in SEM. This variable has a hypothesized relationship with one continuous variable, which has relation with two other continuous variables. Can I do this analysis in AMOS?
Thank you
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Thank you Christian Geiser
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Hi all,
I have bought the version 30 AMOS. In order to run SEM in this AMOS, I need to download Plugin Pattern Matrix Builder version 30. However, I can not find this version 30. Is anyone who can help me?
Best!
Thanh
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Hello,
Pls check for Prof. James GASKIN's tutorials on YouTube.
Also, google for gaskin's plugins for AMOS.
Although, Gaskin tilts more towards SmartPLSnowadays
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Hello, I am trying to improve a pathway model in SPSS' AMOS by placing a linear constraint on two intercepts that are highly correlated (r2>0.97). I figured it would be simple o do this in the syntax window, but to my surprise there is little flexibility to accommodate such expressions. Has anyone succeeded in doing this?
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Applying a linear constraint on intercepts in SPSS AMOS can be challenging due to its syntax limitations for certain custom constraints. However, it is possible to impose constraints using the Constraints feature available in AMOS. Here's how you can address this:Steps to Apply a Linear Constraint on Intercepts in AMOS Define a New Parameter for the Constraint:Instead of directly placing constraints on the intercepts, define a new parameter that represents the relationship between the two intercepts. For example, if the intercepts are β1\beta_1β1​ and β2\beta_2β2​, and you want to impose a constraint β1=β2\beta_1 = \beta_2β1​=β2​, you can define a new parameter and set it equal for both intercepts. Modify the Path Diagram:Open your AMOS model in the graphical interface. Right-click on the intercept of the first variable, and assign it a parameter name (e.g., Intercept1). Do the same for the second intercept (e.g., Intercept2). Add the Constraint:Click on Plugins in the AMOS toolbar and select Constraint Editor. In the Constraint Editor, you can write an equality constraint (e.g., Intercept1 = Intercept2) or a more complex linear constraint, such as β2=k⋅β1\beta_2 = k \cdot \beta_1β2​=k⋅β1​, where kkk is a constant. Save and apply the constraint. Run the Model:Execute the analysis after setting the constraint. AMOS will use this additional constraint during parameter estimation. Tips for Syntax-Based Constraints Although AMOS syntax is limited, you can specify equality constraints directly using parameter names:For example, if you assign Intercept1 and Intercept2 as parameter names, adding Intercept1 = Intercept2 in the syntax window should work. Alternative Approach: Using R (lavaan) for Greater Flexibility If AMOS proves too rigid, consider switching to R with the lavaan package for structural equation modeling. In lavaan, you can easily specify such constraints in the model syntax: R
model <- ' # Regression equations y1 ~ x1 + intercept1 y2 ~ x2 + intercept2 # Constraint intercept1 == intercept2 ' fit <- sem(model, data = your_data) summary(fit)
This approach provides more flexibility and allows you to define constraints directly within the syntax.
You should try R (laavan)
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Dear all,
I am currently doing CFA for WHOQOL-BREF measures that has 26 items, 24 items are grouped in 4 categories. factor 1 has 7 items, factor 2 has 6 items, factor 3 has 3 items and last factor has 8 items. item 3,4,26 were reversed coded and my sample size N = 250 after removing outliers(n=19), and found that the four factor structure did not satisfy the GOF index. Specifically, χ2 = 572.10 df = 246, the CFI = .902 and RMSEA= .071, p .001, CMIN/df < 3. AMOS wouldn't run SRMR on my laptop for some reason.
Ive followed guidelines and removed 4 items with loading less than .40, one at a time. and the final results were χ2 = 419.48 df = 202, p sig, the CFI = .932 and RMSEA= .064, p .001, CMIN/df < 3. MI were all < 15. In my opinion, I'm not seeing significant improvement, which is suggesting that four factor model is not a good model for my data. I continued doing CFA for the instrument as one factor model (as found in previous studies) and found similar borderline results.
Currently, i am not sure how to proceed and how to report the findings. And do i still report reliability for the four factor model (there were all satisfactory >.70 before and after removing 4items)?. Can i use the four factor model in my subsequent analyses, like convergent and discriminant validity (non healthy vs healthy group)
if someone could help direct me to a direction or share some input, i would be very grateful. thank you
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Any ideas on how to write the DISCUSSION section when the results of your model analysis do not fit to the data, and only one hypothesis seem statistical significant? Thank you! It's my first time to do research in the social science with SEM. I am not an expert!!
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I recently received a comment from one of the reviewers regarding the use of modification indices (MI) so as to improve my model fit. It says that this approach generally lacks interpretability and there should be a reference to the literature regarding the specific threshold above which corrections are necessary, for example, 3.84.
In another video i saw the minimum threshold for MI to be 20.
Now I understand that error covariances should be used to the minimum. In my work I have kept the threshold limit for MI (above 20) which led to me introduce 3 error covariances. Prior to this I had also checked for low factor loadings (0.5) and also the standardised residual values (below 2) and none of the items fell in that front. The error variances were drawn between similiar meaning items from the same factor,
My original model fit as indicated by the following fit indices: χ²(164) = 393.6, χ² /df= 2.4, CFI = 0.895 , GFI=0.805,  RMSEA = 0.091.
After introducing MI it was χ² /df=2.061, CFI= 0.927, GFI=.841, AGFI=.793, TLI=.914, RMSEA= 0.077
I would be grateful on your suggestions on two things:
1) Should I introduce the MI considering the model fit before that was close to average in the first place.
2) If yes, what would be the best way to address the reviewers comment and make changes to the paper so as to get a positive response.
I would really appreciate any help in this regard.
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Dear researchers, I am trying to assess specific indirect effects in my model with three moderators. However, AMOS always gives a syntax error and my estimand could not run. When I try it on R studio (with lavaan and psych packages), I could not assign parameters to calculate specific indirect effects. Could you please help me identify problems and solutions for this?
Below is the code in R studio:
library(psych)
library(lavaan)
# I already input my CSV data so now I just describe it
describe(my.data)
A =~ A2+ A3 + A4 + A5 + A7 + A8
MS =~ MS1 + MS2 + MS3 + MS4 + MS6 + MS7+ MS8
M =~ M1 + M2 + M4 + MA8
IM =~ IM1 + IM2 + IM3 + IM4
FLA =~ Listen + Speak + Read + Write
# Regression paths from IV to mediators
M ~ a1*IM
A ~ a2*IM
MS ~ a3*IM
# Regression paths from mediators to DV (FLA)
FLA ~ b1*M + b2*A + b3*MS + c1*IM
#From this moment, I tried to assign parameters to calculate specific indirect effects. However, none of the below functions works!
direct : c1
Error: object 'direct' not found
direct:= c1
Error in `:=`(direct, c1) : could not find function ":="
direct<-c1
Error: object 'c1' not found
direct=c1
Error: object 'c1' not found
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As far as I recall, AMOS by default does not report indirect effects along individual paths when there is more than one indirect path between two factors/variables (e.g., in a parallel mediation model). Did you use user-defined estimands to get the estimates of the three indirect effects? If yes, maybe the syntax error is in the code defining these estimands, not in the model.
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What are the advantages and disadvantages of SPSS and AMOS, and which one is more suitable for administrative research, and is preference conditional on certain circumstances?
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I think AMOS is included in recent versions of SPSS
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Dear researchers,
Good afternoon.
I am trying to perform a path analysis with 1 independent, 1 mediating and 1 dependent variable. After creating a triangular model with observed and unobserved variables, I selected the analysis properties. From the output option I selected the first three options. After that, I selected perform bootstrap. Then I clicked on standardized estimate and calculate estimates. Then it started showing scanning and reading. And it continued like this. How can I fix this?
I am using SPSS AMOS 22 Version.
Please help.
Thank you.
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Perhaps the issue is that you specified an error term (e1) for your independent/exogenous variable (Cognitive). Exogenous variables have no associated error terms/error variances as parameters in path models. Only mediating/dependent/endogenous variables have error terms/error variances.
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Respected Group members
I had recently submitted my thesis for final evaluation for which one of the evaluators flagged the issue of non-use of q square values as a tool for estimating out of sample predictive power of the model in our studies. The evaluator in this regard highlighted that the phenomenon of sensitivity analysis has not been addressed at all and must be addressed through calculating q-square values.
In the light of aforementioned facts, I would like to ask the procedure to calculate q square values or perform sensitivity analysis in our study which involves model development and validation through CB-SEM approach using AMOS software? I
Kindly enlighten!
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Is this the calculation we must Amos does? Q² = 1 - \frac{SS_{res}}{SS_{total}}Q2=1−SStotal​SSres​​
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Can anyone tell me that which one is better for running categorical moderation: Process macro by Hayes or AMOS? I want to write a scientific article, is it necessary to draw a model in Amos? And the results related to the calculation or can the results be reported only with spss?
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The most accurate tool to check moderation is SmartPLS software. In Amos, the model is also drawn, but the moderation evaluation is done in separate parts. For this reason, SmartPLS provides more accurate results for each type of moderator with simultaneous processing.
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To my knowledge, the total effect in mediation reflects the overall impact of X on Y, including the magnitude of the mediator (M) effects. A mediator is assumed to account for part or all of this impact. In mediation analysis, statistical software typically calculates the total effect as: Total effect = Direct effect + Indirect effect.
When all the effects are positive (i.e., the direct effect of X on Y (c’), the effect of X on M (a), and the effect of M on Y (b)), the interpretation of the total effect is straightforward. However, when the effects have mixed or negative signs, interpreting the total effect can become confusing.
For instance, consider the following model: X: Chronic Stress, M: Sleep Quality, Y: Depression Symptoms. Theoretically, all paths (a, b, c’) are expected to be negative. In this case, the indirect effect (a*b) should be positive. Now, assume the indirect effect is 0.150, and the direct effect is -0.150. The total effect would then be zero. This implies the overall impact of chronic stress on depression symptoms is null, which seems illogical given the theoretical assumptions.
Let’s take another example with mixed signs: X: Social Support, M: Self-Esteem, Y: Anxiety. Here, the paths for a and c’ are theoretically positive, while b is negative. The indirect effect (a*b) should also be negative. If the indirect effect is -0.150 and the direct effect is 0.150, the total effect would again be zero, suggesting no overall impact of social support on anxiety.
This leads to several key questions:
1. Does a negative indirect effect indicate a reduction in the impact of X on Y, or does it merely represent the direction of the association (e.g., social support first improves self-esteem, which in turn reduces anxiety)? If the second case holds, should we consider the absolute value of the indirect effect when calculating the total effect? After all, regardless of the sign, the mediator still helps to explain the mechanism by which X affects Y.
2. If the indirect effect reflects a reduction or increase (based on the coefficient sign) in the impact of X on Y, and this change is explained by the mediator, then the indirect effect should be added to the direct effect regardless of its sign to accurately represent the overall impact of both X and M.
3. My main question is: Should I use the absolute values of all coefficients when calculating the total effect?
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Yes, the signs of the direct and indirect effects do matter when calculating the total effect in mediation analysis. Here's how the signs influence the total effect:
Breakdown of Effects in Mediation:
  1. Direct Effect: The effect of the independent variable (X) on the outcome variable (Y) without considering the mediator.
  2. Indirect Effect: The effect of X on Y through the mediator (M). This is calculated as the product of:The effect of X on M (aaa), The effect of M on Y while controlling for X (bbb). Indirect effect = a×ba \times ba×b
  3. Total effect=Direct effect+Indirect effect\text{Total effect} = \text{Direct effect} + \text{Indirect effect}Total effect=Direct effect+Indirect effectTotal Effect: This is the combined effect of X on Y, accounting for both the direct path and the mediated (indirect) path. It is the sum of the direct and indirect effects.
How Signs Matter:
  • If both the direct effect and the indirect effect have the same sign (both positive or both negative), the total effect will increase in magnitude.
  • If the direct effect and indirect effect have opposite signs, they will work against each other, and the total effect will decrease in magnitude or potentially even change direction (depending on the relative sizes of the effects).
Example:
  1. Positive Direct Effect and Positive Indirect Effect:Direct effect = +0.5 Indirect effect = a×b=+0.3×+0.4=+0.12a \times b = +0.3 \times +0.4 = +0.12a×b=+0.3×+0.4=+0.12 Total effect = +0.5+0.12=+0.62+0.5 + 0.12 = +0.62+0.5+0.12=+0.62
  2. Negative Direct Effect and Positive Indirect Effect:Direct effect = -0.5 Indirect effect = +0.12+0.12+0.12 Total effect = −0.5+0.12=−0.38-0.5 + 0.12 = -0.38−0.5+0.12=−0.38
  3. Opposing Signs:Direct effect = +0.5 Indirect effect = −0.12-0.12−0.12 (e.g., if a=−0.3a = -0.3a=−0.3 and b=+0.4b = +0.4b=+0.4) Total effect = +0.5−0.12=+0.38+0.5 - 0.12 = +0.38+0.5−0.12=+0.38
Interpretation:
  • The signs of the direct and indirect effects influence whether the mediator amplifies or reduces the overall effect of the independent variable on the outcome.
  • If the signs are opposite, the mediator might be suppressing the effect of X on Y, or even reversing it, depending on the magnitude of the indirect effect.
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In a scenario where AMOS model fit indices are poor (even after modifications), but reliability and validity (cronbach alpha, CR, AVE, discriminant validity) measures are at an acceptable level, could we bypass the model fit indices and report reliability and validity statistics to confirm the measurement model (CFA)? (assuming that data cleansing was conducted, no violation in normality)
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No, because when model fit is poor, model-implied estimates of reliability and validity may be biased--they are based on an incorrect model.
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Are there any statistical methods to justify your sampling technique using SPSS or AMOS?
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In snowball sampling, true statistical representativeness is difficult to achieve due to its non-random nature. While there isn’t a specific statistical test to confirm representativeness, researchers can:
1. Compare the sample’s characteristics with known population data (if available) to assess representativeness.
2. Start with multiple initial participants (“seeds”) to increase diversity.
3. Apply statistical adjustments like post-stratification weighting to better align the sample with the population.
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I want to use SPSS Amos to calculate SEM because I use SPSS for my statistical analysis. I have already found some workarounds, but they are not useful for me. For example, using a correlation matrix where the weights are already applied seems way too confusing to me and is really error prone since I have a large dataset. I already thought about using Lavaan with SPSS, because I read somewhere that you can apply weights in the syntax in Lavaan. But I don't know if this is true and if it will work with SPSS. Furthermore, to be honest, I'm not too keen on learning another syntax again.
So I hope I'm not the first person who has problems adding weights in Amos (or SEM in general) - if you have any ideas or workarounds I'll be forever grateful! :)
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You can see www.Stats4Edu.com
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I am working on a SEM model where i have 7 latent variables (6 exogenous and 1 endogenous). In AMOS when I co-vary the exogenous constructs, only 2 paths are coming significant out of 6. But when i do not co-vary them, 4 hypothesis are accepted. My question is "Do we really need to co-vary all the exogenous constructs?
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To second Christian Geiser answer: it is a very strong assumption to omit paths or covariances. It means that you imply this associations to be zero. Any non-zero association in the data will contribute to a misfit of the model. Such strong assumptions should be backed up by theory, otherwise it is reasonable to model this possible relations.
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Using multiple indicator variables in AMOS, what is the best way to perform moderation analysis
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Hi Esam.
See these videos attached and check if they can help you.
I think the heaviest one (34.7 MB) should be more useful but the shortest can indicate chi-square test, which can be useful too.
Regards.
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Hello guys, I Have a question, I have structural equation model with multiple mediators, 2 mediator variables are dummy and 2 are continuous. I also heard that there is different manners of running moderation analysis in different software.
In terms of dificulty, which software is less dificult to run SEM with multiple mediator variables? AMOS ou SmartPLS? And Why?
Thank you in advance.
Kind regards?
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Onipe Adabenege Yahaya
please stop posting chatGPT or otherwise AI generated text, especially without explicitly mentioning it!! This is very unscientific!
Andrei Mikhailov please tell, are you interested in moderation of latent variables or manifest variables?
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and shows no error or explanation about the reason .any one can help me?I think I am doing each step correctly
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Hi. Same opinion as Bhumika Bunkar. Please provide more information in such a way we can help you.
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I have been working in Hanoi University of Public Health. I would like to know where and how I can buy AMOS software?
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The purchase options for AMOS and other IBM software are a bit complex and overly expensive. However, if you are affiliated with an academic institution (as a student or faculty member), you can purchase through the vendors. This is a much cheaper and easier way.
You can also search for your local vendors. Again, your organization may already own this software for its constituents.
There are some illegal ways to obtain a license too. However, these are highly discouraged and considered as crime in most countries.
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I am conducting a scale adaptation study on Amos. However, I am unable to validate the main model, which I attribute to the fact that several items are meaningless in our culture. The scale has a high number of items.
When I researched, many different options were given with item removal. But which one is more prioritized?
For example, should I first remove items according to Standardized Regression Weight or R-squared, and then, if the model still does not fit, how should I proceed?
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In addition to Christian's recommendation of removing by theoretical reasoning first, you could also use algorithmic approaches such as the ones described by Schroeders et al. (2016, here: 10.1371/journal.pone.0167110) or me and my colleague for specifically cross-cultural settings (10.1027/1614-2241/a000155), which I also implemented in an R-Package called stuart.
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I would like to know if AMOS can be used if dependent variable (DV) is an observable variable such as student grade (to measure performance)? The model does not run with overall grade. Any help is much appreciated.
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AMOS can indeed be used when the dependent variable is an observable variable, such as student grades, to measure performance. However, if the model does not run with the overall grade, several factors might be causing this issue. Potential reasons include data issues, model specification errors, or the necessity for the grades to be part of a larger latent construct within the structural equation model. To resolve this, ensure that the data are properly prepared, the model is correctly specified, and consider using grades as indicators of a latent performance construct if applicable. Additionally, check for multicollinearity, handle any missing values, and make sure all paths and relationships in the model are accurately defined. These steps can help troubleshoot and resolve the issues preventing the model from running correctly.
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Can I use AMOS to perform SEM model with a dummy dependent variable? if NOT would you please suggest any another statistical package?
My dependent variable is a binary variable consists on 0 and 1 only.
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You guys may read this paper. It's very helpful: Marketing research using single-item indicators in structural equation models https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1057/jma.2013.7.pdf
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I'm trying to run a model in AMOS and I get this error but I don't know what I can do about it.
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Dear Experts,
I need your guidance on the invariance test performed via AMOS. My friend is comparing two groups, A and B. Their Model fits are excellent, less than 3. CFI is 0.98 for both groups. RMSEA group A is 0.040, and group B is 0.038. All factor loadings are above 0.8 for both groups, but there is a huge chi-square difference of about 400+ between constrained and unconstrained models. The sample size is large 1600+. I need your guidance to resolve this issue in order to establish the invariance between the two groups. Your expert opinion will be highly appreciated. Thank you so much
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Hello all,
I have a RCT data set as follows:
IV = Group (Intervention A, Intervention B, Control)
DV = Blood biomarker, Inhibitory control, working memory
I have two research aims.
1) Comparing the effect of interventions on DVs
2) Investigating the mediating effect of blood biomarker on inhibitory control and working memory
My results are as follows:
1) Interventions A and B decreased blood biomarker level.
2) Only Intervention A was effective on inhibitory control.
3) None of the interventions changed working memory.
In this case, I have three questions for mediation analysis.
1) Would performing mediation analysis only for inhibitory control make sense?
2) When analyzing mediation for inhibitory control, should I include only the intervention outcome that shows a significant effect (intervention A)?
3) Which method would be more advantageous for analysis (SPSS, AMOS, etc.)?
Thank you for your help.
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Hi, I hope you're doing well. I urge a response, I'm conducting my thesis topic regarding the attitude intention gap for sustainability consumption of second-hand clothing. For this, I recoded my negative items (boring, useless, bad, unpleasant) on SPSS through 5->1, 4->2 and so on (since I used a 5 Likert scale for all my items).
The thing is now running my CFA analysis on AMOS, my AVE for Attitude is 0.465 and it's MSV is 0.766
What exactly does this mean? Should I not consider the recoded items for AMOS? Before I conducted the Cronbach's Alpha for Attitude and I got a 0.866 score.
Thanks!
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AVE measures the average amount of variance captured by each latent construct (in your case, Attitude). A higher AVE indicates that the items in your construct are measuring the underlying concept well. A commonly accepted threshold for AVE is 0.5 or higher, indicating that at least 50% of the variance in the observed variables is accounted for by the latent construct. Your AVE of 0.465 suggests that your Attitude construct is capturing a moderate amount of variance in your observed variables.
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Hej, I did SEM in AMOS and CMIN/DF is -465248062004,313.
Is this normal or does this indicate that I am doing something wrong?
Thanks a lot!
Ilia
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What did you exactly do to avoid the nonsesns negative X2, or C/min?
I repeat the same analysis hundreds of time adn nothing works. The effects are fine but the fit can not be computed.
Quite desperate!
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I am using AMOS to run SEM. When the model with no interaction, the x2/df is smaller than 5, but when the interaction is added, the X2/df is much bigger? How to deal with this? 
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Using SPS_AMOS, I received a huge negative X2 for my path analysis. What went wrong?
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Hi ,
Please let me know if AMOS 25 has issue of generating P value and RMSEA values. My data set does not show any identification issues .
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AMOS (Analysis of Moment Structures) is a popular software tool for structural equation modeling (SEM). While AMOS itself does not "generate" p-values or RMSEA values directly, it can compute these values as part of the analysis outputs. However, the accuracy and reliability of these values depend on various factors, including the model specification, sample size, and data quality.
Here are some considerations regarding p-values and RMSEA values in AMOS:
  1. Model Specification: Ensure that your SEM model is properly specified, including specifying appropriate relationships between variables, adequate model identification, and addressing potential issues such as multicollinearity or misspecification.
  2. Sample Size: The accuracy of p-values and RMSEA values can be influenced by the sample size. Generally, larger sample sizes tend to provide more precise estimates and more reliable statistical tests.
  3. Data Quality: Ensure that your dataset is of high quality, with minimal missing data, outliers, or other data issues. Poor data quality can affect the accuracy of statistical estimates and hypothesis tests.
  4. Model Fit Indices: In addition to p-values and RMSEA values, consider examining other model fit indices, such as Comparative Fit Index (CFI), Tucker-Lewis Index (TLI), and Standardized Root Mean Square Residual (SRMR), to evaluate the overall fit of your SEM model.
  5. Software Version: Ensure that you are using a stable and up-to-date version of AMOS (e.g., version 25), as newer versions may include bug fixes and improvements that address issues present in earlier versions.
If you are experiencing specific issues with generating p-values or RMSEA values in AMOS 25, it may be helpful to review the model specification, data quality, and other factors mentioned above to troubleshoot the problem. Additionally, consulting resources such as user guides, forums, or contacting technical support for the software can provide further assistance in addressing any issues you encounter.
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1. Is Smartpls the only way to deal with formative constructs?
If we have formative constructs, cant we use SPSS and AMOS? If not, that means that all the studies done on SPSS and AMOS are having only reflective constructs (having similar meaning items)?
2. What to do if i have formative constructs, but want to do EFA & CFA?. Can I do ANOVA, MANOVA and other multivariate tests on formative constructs?
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Hi Karan
1. No. In SPSS you could run a principal component analysis which is a model for causal indictors. In AMOS you could set up a model with causal indictors, although there will some restrictions - have a look at some more brilliant work by Bollen on this issue doi: 10.1037/a0024448
2. Yes, you could use principal component analysis to do an 'EFA' although this would not strictly be a factor analysis, and a CFA could be set up with causal indictors.
Once you have a measurement model set up, the ANOVA or MANOVA are not too difficult to specify by using dummy coded variables (and maybe products if you want interactions). Have a look at some of Richard Bagozzi's work from back in the day - it's brilliant.
My usual suggestion when there are questions on formative/reflective constructs is to read everything Ken Bollen has written on this - start with the 'Conventional Wisdom' paper, it's one of the best papers on measurement that has ever been written.
Bollen, K., & Lennox, R. (1991). Conventional wisdom on measurement: A structural equation perspective. Psychological Bulletin, 110(2), 305–314. https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-2909.110.2.305
1991 was a good year for the nerds!
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I recently learned how to produce indirect effects for each specific path in a path analysis model in AMOS, using the user-defined estimand. but it provides only unstandarized effects. my question is if and how I can recieve the standartized effects of each path.
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Thank you. your response was very helpful
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1. If I plan to do all data analysis using IBM SPSS and not using AMOS, do i need to do CFA?
2. If not, then how to judge convergent and discriminant validity of the instrument (survey questionnaire)?.
3. This doubt has come because, if I am not doing SEM, then why should i develop a measurement model in AMOS.
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In Spss, by default there is only EFA and not CFA. So, if you need CFA, better to use someother softwares such as AMOS etc.
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My research investigates the influence of training and development and performance appraisal on the competitive advantage of Nigerian private schools. It also explores the potential role of ethical climate as a mediating factor in this relationship.
In this study, a quantitative research approach was utilized to collect and analyze numerical data and to identify patterns and relationships. The analysis includes a variety of techniques, such as descriptive analysis, exploratory factor analysis, confirmatory factor analysis, and structural equation modeling. Widely recognized statistical software programs, SPSS and AMOS, have been used to perform these advanced analytical methods.
However, the reviewer comments that the variable construct is still based on theory, not empirically in Nigerian Private Schools. How can I do it or respond to it?
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I think the reviewer is expecting you to provide examples of a few studies of a similar nature to show that your study is not just based on theory but is based on gaps in the existing literature. Therefore, I'd suggest you to search and include a few studies that examine the impact of training and development and performance appraisal on the competitive advantage of schools.
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"I am unsure which statistical tool is more appropriate for my PhD study - PLS or AMOS. I am using the DTPB model, along with cultural moderating variables, to investigate teachers' intention to incorporate ICT in their teaching practice. My research question aims to understand the factors that influence the adoption of ICT by teachers in the classroom."
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Hey Jaber,
I think you are comparing a statistical approach (PLS) to a specific software programme (AMOS) so I don't have an answer to which is 'best'. AMOS is used for standard covariance based latent variable modelling, and as such is hugely flexible and powerful. You get all the benefits of maximum likelihood estimation and model fit statistics. The downside is that you get maximum likelihood estimation and model fit statistics.
Looking at your proposed model I suspect that PLS may be an easier way to specify the 'causal' indicators, but I also suspect that reviewers would ask some tricky questions about why you didn't use a model model testing approach such as latent variable modelling, or SEM, or whatever you want to call it.
This is an intersting articale that applies both methods , and there is also a brilliant episode of the Quantitude podcast on PLS. The 'brilliant' was unnecessary as all episode of Quantitude are brilliant.
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Suppose that we have three variables (X, Y, Z). According to past literature Y mediates the relationship between X & Z while X mediates the relationship between Y & Z. Can I analyze these interrelationships in a single SEM using a duplicate variable for either X (i.e., Xiv & X Ddv) or Y (Yiv or Ydv)?
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It is possible to use the same variable twice, once as a mediator and once as an independent variable. This methodology enables a more comprehensive examination of the connections inside the model.
For Reference:
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Theory suggests that these latent variables (SEFM, SEFI, SIF, and SER) variables are correlated.
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Only the residual (disturbance, error) terms can be correlated for endogenous (dependent) variables in a path/SEM model. The reason is that the covariance of endogenous variables is not a free parameter but a function of other free model parameters. You should be able to include covariances among the residual/error/disturbance (e) terms.
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I'm looking for assistance in interpreting the outcomes of a Structural Equation Modeling (SEM) analysis that investigated a mediation effect. The analysis showed that both direct paths from the independent variable to the mediator and from the mediator to the dependent variable were significant and negative. However, the indirect effect turned out to be positive and significant. Does this imply that an increase in the independent variable (X) leads to a decrease in the mediator (M), which then, results in an increase in the dependent variable (Y)?
X (PRE)
M (PSR)
Y (SMA)
PRE -> PSR (B = -.20)
PSR -> SMA (B = -.19)
PRE -> PSR -> SMA (B = .04)
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The indirect effect is positive because it is, by definition, equal to the product of two (in this case negative) path (regression) coefficients:
Indirect effect = (-.20)*(-.19) = .038.
The 95% confidence interval includes the value of zero though [.00, .09] and therefore, according to the CI, the indirect effect would not be statistically significant at the .05 level.
Any kind of causal interpretation is questionable, especially if you are dealing with non-experimental, cross-sectional data where X is not manipulated and X, M, and Y are measured at the same time point.
See:
Maxwell, S. E., & Cole, D. A. (2007). Bias in cross-sectional analyses of longitudinal mediation. Psychological Methods, 12(1), 23-44.
Maxwell, S. E., Cole, D. A., & Mitchell, M. A. (2011). Bias in cross-sectional analyses of longitudinal mediation: Partial and complete mediation under an autoregressive model. Multivariate Behavioral Research, 46(5), 816-841.
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Hi.
I am a sport psychology researcher and I usually analyze structural equation model (SEM) using AMOS program.
But this time, my data reported unusual results.
It revealed that variables A and B had a negative correlation (in SPSS, Pearson's r), while A had a positive effect on B in SEM.
I wonder why this happened and what is the solution in this case (There is no issue of multicollinearity).
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Hi Dr. Junsu,
From memory, I think the Hayes book (Introduction to Mediation, Moderation, and Conditional Process Analysis) mentions this issue. If you are dealing with a reviewer's comment, I would just explain the difference between a simple bivariate correlation versus a complex model, and how relationships can differ because of the inclusion of multiple other variables in a complex model.
Hope this information helps.
Kind Regards,
Lorcan.
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Hello, I have collected 300 responses on employee outcomes like satisfaction and engagement in relation to work from home. Many items have skewness outside the range of -1 and + 1. However, kurtosis for these items is in the range of -3 and + 3. All the variables are continuous. Can I use this data to conduct analysis in SPSS and IBM AMOS (using CB SEM). Also, can I use demographic data that is non-normal as control variable? Thank you in advance.
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When maximum likelihood (ML) estimation is used in covariance-based structural equation modeling (CB-SEM), multivariate normality is assumed. However, violations of normality are not necessarily problematic. Robust ML estimation methods (e.g., Satorra-Bentler correction) or bootstrapping (Bollen-Stine) can be used to adjust the model fit statistics and standard errors when variables are not normally distributed.
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What if my CFA value is slightly lower (0.88), but the other fit indices (RMSEA and SRMR) are below 0.5? Will i be said to have achieved configural invariance?
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A CFI value of 0.88 does not indicate an adequate model fit, but the most important criterion would be the chi-square test of model fit. I'm assuming from the low CFI that the chi-square must be highly significant, indicating model misfit. You should re-examine your model to identify potential sources of model misspecification before moving on to more restricted invariance models that could only fit worse than your current model.
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R. Shanthi's book ''MULTIVARIATE DATA ANALYSIS: Using SPSS and AMOS'' has been required for academic work. If there is someone who has this book, can I provide it? It is a big help for me.. Thanks
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It is not available for free, it is available on Amazon for $24.85
Therefore, I think there is a problem with sharing it or publishing parts of it publicly without the author’s consent.
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My 3 groups have unequal sample size. These 3 groups are made through cluster analysis, on the basis of 4 items included in my first variable of the study. How to to use these 3 clusters formed as categorical variable for multigroup analysis.
One more query: Should I do CFA for all 3 groups separately after making the clusters, or just 1 CFA before cluster formation.
Please tell whether I can use AMOS, instead of Smart pls.
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Hello Karan,
you use the three groups as in any other kind of multigroup scenario. I don't know how this is dealt with in AMOS but you can easily find that out :)
With regard to the CFA, the essential question whether a respective set of items follow a common factor structure. Remember, the common factor model claims that all indicators are exchangeable reflections of the same underlying entity. In contrast you may have sets of items that comprise an index or aggregates. Hence think about first or misfit is guaranteed.
If the factor structure is plausible, you should incorporate the CFA as part of the multigroup approach which allows to test for measurement invariance (most notably metric invariance, that this equality of the loadings)
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I've condudted a first order factor model (CFA) using AMOS and a second order factor model. I noticed that the fit indix (GFI) was included in the AMOS output for the first order model but it was missing in the second order model, why is that?
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Hey Marwa
The GFI doesn't appear outside of LISREL because it doesn't work - it's way too liberal. Karl Joreskog tells a funny story that the early versions of LISREL only had the chi-square statistic and it was very unpopular because models were always rejected. He developed and implemented the GFI and every model fitted well, and LISREL became very popular. It's a good story, not sure how true it is.
This study shows that it's junk.
Shevlin, M., & Miles, J. N. V. (1998). Effects of sample size, model specification and factor loadings on the GFI in confirmatory factor analysis. Personality and Individual Differences, 25(1), 85–90. https://doi.org/10.1016/S0191-8869(98)00055-5
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While performing CFA, I got negative and low factor loading for a few constructs in AMOS, but model fit indices are good. Is the result of the CFA model valid? Can i proceed with the study or do i have to remove negative and low factor loading?
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Myself, you may want to delete the variables from the analysis and tell the reader you did that. Having variables in your model which have no correlations with anything else will cause you to have a good fit to the independence null (which assumes no correlations) and therefore traditional fit indices like the TLI will not be as high. It depends on the context of your study, though. if these are variables that everybody in your area are using I would think you'd want to keep them in the model. Before you do that, though, be sure to scatterplot these variables against the other variables in the factor. maybe there are some problems with the variables (like nonlinear relationships or outlying observations) which are behind the low correlations. For what it's worth.
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Is the model of AMOS made by me wrong.The panel members in my defense viva said this model is wrong.how can i defend it?
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"Wrong" is very ambigious. It may be wrong from a theoretical standpoint, that you build a wrong model, which is not in accordance with your underlying theory. Wrong could also mean "bad fit", that you modeled it according to your theory, but the bad fit indicates that your data and theory do not fit very well. Or you did something technically wrong, so you specified something that should not be (e.g. items are on the wrong latent variable). Or wrong in the sense of "suboptimal", e.g. maximum likelihood estimators for ordinal items.
So please clarify!
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While performing CFA, I got negative and low factor loading for a few constructs in AMOS, but model fit indices are good. Is the result of the CFA model valid? Can i proceed with the study or do i have to remove negative and low factor loading?
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It depends on why these negative loadings occur (i.e., is it plausible?) and what exactly they look like in the context of the entire model.
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This is an SEM model showing impact of 5 sensory elements on Brand image.panel member said the arrow must be pointed towards brand image but it is not possible in AMOS
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Think of the arrows as statements about causality. In your model you are saying "Brand Image causes Auditory", also "Auditory causes MAT" and so on. This is the normal approach in SEM with AMOS. You have observed variables, (MAT, MDE, MPE, etc) that are manifestations of unobserved, or latent, constructs (Auditor, Olfactory, etc). In your model, these unobserved constructs are themselves manifestations of a second-order latent construct, Brand Image.
So that is the theory that you are presenting in your model: your observed (or 'manifest') variables are a result of some other construct that we cannot measure directly, the latent construct Brand Image.
Your panel members believe that arrows - the causal links - should point to Brand Image from Auditory, Olfactory, etc. That would be to say that Auditory causes Brand Image (along with the other first-order latent constructs). You can do that only if you have separate independent measures of Brand Image. That is, where you can say that observed variables such as 'value for money', 'prestige', 'innovativeness', and so on (see Plumeyer et al. for many other examples) are manifestations of Brand Image.
Your model is not a structural model of causal relationships among constructs. It is a model where you propose that Brand Image, which we cannot observe directly, produces five perceptions (Auditory, Olfactory, etc., which we also cannot observe directly), and each of these is manifested by about seven observed variables.
This is not wrong as such. It could be useful if you want to show that your measures are good at measuring your constructs.
Having said that, you should also do the following:
* Present the standardised coefficients. This helps you and the reader understand how much stronger some coefficients are than others. Check the statistical significance of the coefficients from your constructs to your manifest variables. You will probably find that you can comfortably use just four or five manifest variables for each construct instead of the seven or eight that you have.
* Before including the second-order latent construct Brand Image to the model, check the measurement model. (correlate each of the first-order constructs with each other first-order construct, and then check the sign and strength of the coefficients to decide if you really need that observed variable in the model)
* Check for common-method bias and decide if you really need some observed variables.
There are lots of 'how-to' tutorials online and YouTube videos to show you how to do these, Shivam Bhardwaj
Good luck.
Reference:
Plumeyer, A., Kottemann, P., Böger, D. et al. Measuring brand image: a systematic review, practical guidance, and future research directions. Review of Managerial Science 13, 227–265 (2019). https://doi.org/10.1007/s11846-017-0251-2
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Anyone with AMOS for SPSS Version25,please?
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In fact, the R lavaan package is also implemented in jamovi, which is also free. See https://semlj.github.io
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I am analyzing the standardized mediating indirect effect in AMOS.
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The standardized indirect effect represents the relationship between an independent variable and a dependent variable through a mediating variable. It is a crucial measure as it helps us understand how much of the total effect can be attributed to this mediation process. Nevertheless, Amos does not provide a statistical test for its significance.
This limitation in Amos arises due to various reasons. Firstly, testing for significance requires estimating standard errors and calculating p-values, which are not available for the standardized indirect effect in Amos. Secondly, it is important to consider that significance testing may not always be appropriate or meaningful in all research contexts.
Despite this limitation, researchers can still interpret and discuss the magnitude and directionality of the standardized indirect effect observed in their SEM models analyzed using Amos. By focusing on effect sizes rather than statistical significance alone, researchers can gain valuable insights into their research questions and contribute to scientific knowledge.
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Dear All, I am facing a serious problem. The output (red highlight) bottom is not arising in some of my CFA in AMOS. In some cases, it is arising, but in some cases, it is not arising. I have seen all most all possibilities , but not arising. Sincere request to solve this issue.
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Please see that whether the error term is added to all indicators; and please see that constraint (1) is assigned to the arrow, which is leading to a latent variable or construct. Later-on I had taken care of all these things and I got success.
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I am facing a weird reversal of two positively related constructs (positively correlated, path positive when no other variables are present in the model) within the full structural model calculation in AMOS:
When inserted into the full structural model and adding directive paths between the constructs, a negative significant path loading appears between the two constructs that correlate (and should correlate!) POSITIVELY. The negative path is oppositve everything that makes sense from a theoretical perspective.
This means, that when other IVs and the measurement models come into play, the relationship that exists is somehow reversed. Obviously, this is an artifact produced by SEM.
It is to mention that some of the 6 IVs we have in our model have VIFs higher than 3, one is even around 7. This means, that multicollinearity between different IVs could be the root of the problem.
Are there other possible explanations, and what are potential fixes?
If anyone has experience with this, or literature to recommend, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance! Charlotte Baar
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Hi Charlotte,
can you show a path diagram with explanation of the variables involved. Strange negative effects ring the "collider bias" bell. Christian Geiser you pointed into the right direction although I found this paper here much more eye-opening:
Kim, Y. (2019). The causal structure of suppressor variables. Journal of Educational and Behavioral Statistics, 1076998619825679. doi:10.3102/1076998619825679
More on collider bias:
Elwert, F., & Winship, C. (2014). Endogenous selection bias: The problem of conditioning on a collider variable. Annual Review of Sociology, 40, 31-53. doi:10.1146/annurev-soc-071913-043455
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Hi,
Kindly help me to understand when we can use AMOS or SMART-PLS for data analysis? thanks
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The two programs use different statistical techniques: AMOS uses covariance based SEM, whereas SMART-PLS uses partial least squares. There is some critique concerning PLS and I would stick with the covariance based approach (but not necessarily with AMOS). But you have to know what your are doing and what is maybe more common in your field.
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I aim to validate a formative construct (GPers) and I put it in a model with two reflective constructs (CI and Willing) to do so.
AMOS gives me estimates in the output, but they don't appear in the AMOS graphic depiction. AMOS states that iteration limit is reached and results are therefore incorrect.
I should mention that the manifest variables capturing GPerso are sum scores, summing together multiple items (though I think that should not change anything in AMOS).
Does anyone know what might be the problem and how to fix it?
Thanks in advance.
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The G_Pers factor may be identifiable without fixing both paths (to CI and Willing) if at least one of the "formative indicators" of G_Pers is substantially correlated with the G_Pers factor (i.e., if at least one of the paths from the "formative indicators" is substantially different from 0). However, one of the reflective paths (to either CI or Willing) will still have to be fixed as far as I can tell. Otherwise, the G_Pers factor with a freely estimated residual variance (variance of e40 in your picture) will not be identified.
This is why I would think of the G_Pers factor as being a reflective (second-order) factor rather than a "formative" variable. Its identification and meaning is based on the reflective indicators (CI and Willing) rather than the "formative indicators." The "formative indicators" are merely observed predictor variables (covariates) of a second-order reflective factor.
The problem is not so much estimation/identification as it is interpretation. In my opinion, only reflective measurement can be considered "measurement" in a classical sense. That being said, you might consider using composites, which are clearly defined. See, for example, work by Joerg Henseler, Florian Schuberth, and colleagues on confirmatory composite analysis:
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I have a sample composed of two categories, say males and females, when I test a certain path it gives insignificant results in both categories, surprisingly, when I test the same path for the whole sample it gives significant result!!! This doesn't appear when I use Amos (in Amos the path is insignificant for the whole sample too). If testing structural model is not yet reliable in SmartPls cb-sem, can I use it for CFA only and then test hypotheses using Amos? Given that the two softwares give very close results regarding CFA, but SmartPls is just more user-friendly
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Yes, the P-value in Smaart Pis CB-SEM is reliable. It is calculated using the same statistical methods as other structural equation modeling (SEM) software.
The P-value is a measure of the statistical significance of a test. It is calculated by assuming that the null hypothesis is true and then computing the probability of obtaining a test statistic as extreme or more extreme than the one observed if the null hypothesis were true. A P-value less than 0.05 is generally considered to be statistically significant, meaning that there is a less than 5% chance of obtaining the observed results if the null hypothesis were true.
There are a few things to keep in mind when interpreting P-values in SEM:
  • The P-value is only one measure of the strength of evidence against the null hypothesis. It is also important to consider the effect size and the confidence interval.
  • The P-value is affected by the sample size. A larger sample size will generally produce smaller P-values.
  • The P-value can be inflated by multiple testing. If you are testing multiple hypotheses, you should use a correction procedure such as the Bonferroni correction to avoid false positives.
Overall, the P-value in Smaart Pis CB-SEM is a reliable measure of the statistical significance of a test. However, it is important to keep the limitations of P-values in mind when interpreting them.
Here are some additional tips for interpreting P-values in SEM:
  • Consider the effect size. The effect size is a measure of the magnitude of the effect. A statistically significant effect may not be practically significant if the effect size is small.
  • Consider the confidence interval. The confidence interval tells you the range of values that is likely to contain the true population parameter. If the confidence interval includes zero, then the effect is not statistically significant.
  • Consider the sample size. A larger sample size will generally produce smaller P-values. If you have a small sample size, you may want to use a more conservative significance level, such as 0.01.
  • Consider the multiple testing problem. If you are testing multiple hypotheses, you should use a correction procedure such as the Bonferroni correction to avoid false positives.
If you have any questions about interpreting P-values in SEM, you should consult with a statistician or other expert.
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Please I need to know if I can perform a CFA in AMOS with ML for data with non-normal distribution, if you have any reference it would be of great help
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You can use Maximum Likelihood to estimate the parameters of your model and request to he Bollen Stine bootstrap to obtain robust standard errors and test statistics. (The standard errors and test statistics are most affected by data non-normality.)
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If iI use EFA on SPSS to explore the factors and later I intend to check the reliability and validity of these explored factors using SmartPLS rather than CFA on AMOS, will it be valid approach?
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Alamir Louro, thank you for responding to my request - and for having done so with so much detail. You are certainly right about SPSS being limited by providing the default of eigenvalues > 1 criterion for suggesting - and producing - the number of factors in a data set. At least, researchers can over-ride that and specify the number of factors they want to be extracted, perhaps on the basis of parallel analysis, scree plot, etc. However, it would be nice if a package produced parallel analysis as a matter of course.
It was generous of you to provide your email address. I might get in touch with you some day to have a bit of "joint experience" with factor analysis.
Thanks again.
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I have a longitudinal model and the stability coefficients for one construct change dramatically from the first and second time point (.04) to the second and third time point (.89). I have offered a theoretical explanation for why this occurs, but have been asked about potential model bias.
Why would this indicate model bias? (A link to research would be helpful).
How can I determine whether the model is biased or not? (A link to research would be helpful).
Thanks!
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That makes sense. Are you comparing the cross-lagged panel (auto)regression (path) coefficients to zero-order correlations? This could be part of the issue (explain the "discrepancy"/low autoregressive stability coefficient). Regression coefficients are not equal to zero-order (bivariate) correlations. The regression coefficients take the correlation with other independent variables into account. This may explain why the autoregressive "stability" coefficients in your model look very different from the zero-order correlations. It is impossible to know without looking at your data and model in more detail.
The model fit does not look completely horrible at first sight but the chi-square test is significant and the RMSEA value is a bit high. I would take a look at model residuals and/or modification indices to find out where the model may be misspecified.
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Aloha Everyone,
My university recently bought SPSS 29 Faculty Premium Package, the vendor is thinkEDU, the said AMOS is part of it, that is one of the reason we bought, but there is no AMOS inside it, i could not locate? How to confirm if it has or not, if it has where can I find and use AMOS? Please advice.
Thank you
Rojan Baniya
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I looked at the SPSS website and found this: "Amos is included in the Premium edition of SPSS Statistics (except in Campus Edition, where it is sold separately)."
It sounds like you will need to contact SPSS support to get a definitive answer.
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Can you suggest some covariance based SEM software to analyse formative constructs? I used to use AMOS. But suggestions I got is that, AMOS is not built to deal with formative constructs. What do you think? Do you have any other suggestions? Thank you very much.
Regards, Catherine.
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It depends on your undertstanding about a formative construct. If you regard it as a latent variable, you can model a causal-formative measurement model, see e.g., Bollen & Bauldray (2011). CB-SEM is eminently suitable for that. If you regard a formative construct as a composite that is composed of other variables, you can employ the Henseler-Ogasawara specification which allows for flexibly modeling composites in CB-SEM, see e.g., Schuberth (2021), Yu et al. (2023).
HTH
Best regards,
Florian
References:
K. A. Bollen and S. Bauldry, “Three Cs in measurement models: Causal indicators, composite indicators, and covariates,” Psychological Methods, vol. 16, no. 3, pp. 265–284, 2011, doi: 10.1037/a0024448.
F. Schuberth, “The Henseler-Ogasawara specification of composites in structural equation modeling: A tutorial,” Psychological Methods, 2021, doi: 10.1037/met0000432.
X. Yu, F. Schuberth, and J. Henseler, “Specifying composites in structural equation modeling: A refinement of the Henseler-Ogasawara specification,” Statistical Analysis and Data Mining, vol. 16, no. 4, pp. 348–357, 2023, doi: 10.1002/sam.11608.
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These questions explore the distinctions between SmartPLS and AMOS in terms of their statistical methods, modeling capabilities, treatment of data, and user experience. It is essential to understand these differences to make informed decisions about which software tool is best suited for specific research projects and objectives. Researchers can use these questions as a starting point to delve deeper into the comparative analysis of SmartPLS and AMOS for their individual research needs.
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The new SmartPLS 4 release (https://www.smartpls.com/) offers PLS-SEM but also CB-SEM (like IBM SPSS Amos) - and many other methods such as regression analysis, path analysis and PROCESS, necessary condition analysis, logistic regression, and confirmatory factor analysis (via CB-SEM projects).
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These questions explore the distinctions between SmartPLS and AMOS in terms of their statistical methods, modeling capabilities, treatment of data, and user experience. It is essential to understand these differences to make informed decisions about which software tool is best suited for specific research projects and objectives. Researchers can use these questions as a starting point to delve deeper into the comparative analysis of SmartPLS and AMOS for their individual research needs.
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Hi there!
I am currently running SPSS AMOS 24
But the SEM result doesn't show the P-Value for regression weights in estimate when it comes to my three main paths
Estimates only showed score 1 for each correlation, S.E., C.R. and P-Value are all empty
(The rest of the variables are normal, only three main ones)
How can I resolve this question?
Looking forward to kind assistance in this regard, wish everyone well :)
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I am developing a tool using a sequential exploratory strategy. When I run confirmatory factor analysis by covariating constructs, it gives me a good fit, however, I have to later develop a reflective formative construct which is my DV. Can I do CFA in AMOS and then work in PLS-SEM for checking the relationship between IVs and DV?
Can we use AMOS and PLS-SEM in the same study?
Note: All the IVs are also reflective.
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Yes, you can use AMOS and PLS-SEM in the same study. However, it is important to ensure that the methods are appropriate for the research question and the specific characteristics of the data
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What is endogeneity and how can we run it in SPSS/AMOS? what is the step-by-step procedure, particularly survey data/cross-sectional research?
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Endogeneity refers to a situation in which a variable in a statistical model is correlated with the error term or disturbance term. This correlation can lead to biased and inconsistent parameter estimates, making it challenging to establish causal relationships between variables. Endogeneity often arises in observational or cross-sectional research designs, where the researcher cannot control for all possible confounding factors.
To address endogeneity in your analysis using survey data in SPSS/AMOS, you can consider implementing the two-stage least squares (2SLS) method. This method is commonly used in econometrics to address endogeneity by using instrumental variables. Here is a step-by-step procedure:
  1. Identify potential endogenous variables: Identify the variables in your model that you suspect may be endogenous. These are the variables that are potentially correlated with the error term.
  2. Find suitable instrumental variables: Instrumental variables are variables that are correlated with the endogenous variable but not directly correlated with the error term. Look for variables that satisfy this condition and can be used as instruments.
  3. Run the first-stage regression: In SPSS, run a regression model where you predict the endogenous variable(s) using the instrumental variables. Obtain the predicted values (fitted values) from this regression.
  4. Run the second-stage regression: Use the predicted values obtained from the first-stage regression as a new independent variable in your main regression model. This is done to address the endogeneity issue. Run your main regression model using the predicted values as a control variable.
  5. Interpret the results: Examine the coefficient estimates and their significance in the second-stage regression. These estimates represent the effects of the exogenous variables on the dependent variable, taking into account the endogeneity issue.
In AMOS, which is a software primarily used for structural equation modeling (SEM), you can also address endogeneity using a similar two-stage approach. You would specify a measurement model for your latent variables and a structural model for the relationships between the latent variables. You can include instrumental variables as exogenous variables in your structural model to account for endogeneity.
It's important to note that implementing the 2SLS method or addressing endogeneity, in general, requires careful consideration of the specific research context, availability of instrumental variables, and the assumptions underlying the method. It is recommended to consult with a statistician or econometrician who can guide you through the process and ensure its appropriate application to your specific research design.
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SPSS/WEKA/R/MatLab/Python/SAS/AMOS/PowerBI
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For regression analysis, there is also this, with a new algorithm:
You can try it for 25 days. Comments welcome!
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How can I get the table tab in Amos v23?
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To add a published paper to your ResearchGate profile, you need to:
  1. Go to the Research tab on your profile.
  2. On the left, select Preprints and locate your publication.
  3. Click Add published version under the preprint title.
  4. Select the published work you want to link to if it’s already on ResearchGate, or create a new publication if it’s not.
  5. Click Add published version.
Alternatively, you can add a publication page to your profile by clicking the Add new button at the top right-hand corner of any ResearchGate page. I hope that helps!
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I did SEM in AMOS and it suggest to connect an error variable and observed variable to enhance the model fit. I was wondering if these variables can be connected as well as two error variables.
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Structural equation modeling (SEM) is a method that allows researchers to test complex hypotheses about the relationships among observed and latent variables (Kline, 2015). Observed variables are those that can be measured directly, such as test scores or survey responses. Latent variables are those that cannot be measured directly, such as intelligence or academic achievement. SEM involves specifying a model that represents the causal structure of the variables and estimating the parameters of the model using data. One of the advantages of SEM is that it can provide information about the fit of the model to the data, as well as the modification indices that suggest how the model can be improved (Byrne, 2016).
One of the questions that may arise when using SEM is whether it is appropriate to connect an observed variable and an error variable if the output suggests it in modification indices. An error variable is a latent variable that represents the measurement error or unexplained variance of an observed variable. Connecting an observed variable and an error variable means adding a path between them in the model, which implies that there is a direct effect of one variable on another. This may not make sense theoretically or conceptually, as error variables are usually assumed to be independent of other variables in the model. Therefore, connecting an observed variable and an error variable may not be a good practice in SEM, unless there is a strong justification for doing so based on substantive knowledge or previous research (Brown, 2015).
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Hi, I'm doing CFA using SPSS Amos and I have two variables with single items each. After reviewing previous discussions, I've fix the loadings and error variance to 1,1. If I put error variance to 0, the variances will be zero. However, the variance is not that important to me as I would like to find the factor loadings between the single item and variable but I'm not sure how to do it.
Or the factor loading for single item is the value between e25 --> single item?
If so, the value between e26 --> Pay_R is more than 1. How should I interpret this?
I'm not familiar with SPSS Amos and would appreciate all guidance on this. Thank you.
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With a single indicator, the unstandardized loading must be fixed to 1 and the error variance must be either fixed to zero (assuming/implying perfect reliability of the indicator--not a very realistic scenario) or to a theoretically meaningful value that corresponds to your "best guess" as to how much error variance there is in the observed variable. The estimate of the error variance can sometimes be derived from reliability estimates (but be careful when using reliability estimates from prior studies as they may not apply to your sample/population).
With known reliability, the error variance for an observed variable (indicator) Y can, according to classical test theory, be computed as
Var(error) = Var(Y)*(1 - reliability).
It is not meaningful to estimate the loading of a single indicator. The unstandardized loading must be fixed to one for identification. The standardized loading will be "estimated" but will trivially correspond to the square root of the reliability coefficient when fixing the error variance according to the formula above. So there is no new information there.
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In order to compare the two groups, we tested for measurement invariance and then conducted a path analysis. Should we present the results of the measurement invariance test and then compare the path analysis of the groups?
I am confused because some papers present the SEM results of each group before comparing the two groups. Do you have any recommendations?
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Hi Ann,
why not incorporate both goals and add the cross-group constraint ("structural equivalence") on the effects after metric invariance has been tested. This would fit nicely into one approach and avoid the use of path analysis (which is a bid strange as you had latent variables in the first approach anyway).
Best,
Holger
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Hello everyone. The p value of the path estime regression weight (B=0.198) from A to C, is 0.014 in my model in the figure. After boostraping, the coefficient from A to C (B=0.198) becomes p value 0.043 as a direct effect. What causes this difference in P value? Many thanks for your comments
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My guess is that the first p value is based on a regular theoretical/asymptotic standard error, whereas the second one is based on bootstrapping, which is a different methodology for finding a p value empirically based on resampling rather than asymptotic theory.
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I have 414 data set for developing a motivation scale. I used EFA and CFA. So I split the data to two groups. 207 for EFA and 207 left for CFA. AFter I finished the analyze with SPSS for EFA and SPSS AMOS for CFA, I knew that some of questions are not valid in EFA while it is valid in CFA and vice-versa. what should I do with this? this is for my thesis project. should I just report it like that? and when I report it, some questions that are not valid in EFA and CFA at the same time. Which one should I call as valid? Thank you in advance.
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What do you mean when you say some of the questions are not "valid" in EFA but are in CFA?
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Respected members,
I want to know how to report such result in research where second order relationship comes into existence.
For eg
Variable A, B and C ; all are individual and separate constructs (First order) as per previous studies.
But in my survey, post checking validity parameters in CFA using AVE, MSV , ASV etc values , it is found that Variable A and Variable B are making second order constructs, then how to justify this second order relationship with theory if Previously no such relationship is established.
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can second order be changed to first order in sem
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when i run whole model with two serial mediation my direct relations are insignificant. how to interpret this situation, please guide
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Hello Irfan,
When an IV->DV relationship is zero or near-zero, and the IV->Mediator->DV relationship is non-zero, then you have evidence for full or nearly full mediation, at least for your sample.
Good luck with your work.
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The data I collected for my research yielded a non-normal distribution.
I aim to test a hypothetical model using SEM, and AMOS is said to be better for confirmatory research. However, I don't want an inflated model (since the data are not normally distributed).
Accordingly, I have the following questions:
1. Is SmartPLS a good fit for conducting SEM and path analyses, and is that more accurate than Amos for the data that are not normally distributed?
2. Moreover, is it better to use VB-SEM?
I asked the second question because VB-SEM is said to be more flexible regarding non-normality.
I sincerely thank the researchers who will answer these questions.
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With the latest SmartPLS release, you can run both PLS-SEM and CB-SEM (like Amos): https://www.smartpls.com/downloads
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I am currently at a Japanese university and working on a project with my co-workers.
We use DropBox to share an SPSS file (.sav) to run some analysis in AMOS. My co-workers (using the Japanese version of Windows 11) can open the file from Dropbox and conduct analysis without any problem. However, in my case (I am using an English version of Windows 11), my AMOS (no matter set in Japanese or English) cannot read the file.
Does anyone here have similar experiences? Is it because of my OS issue?
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Dear Christian Geiser,
If your AMOS software is unable to read your SPSS file, there are a few steps you can take to troubleshoot the issue:
1. Check the file format: Ensure that your SPSS file is saved in a compatible format that AMOS can read. AMOS typically supports the .sav format, which is the standard format for SPSS data files. If your file is saved in a different format, try saving it as a .sav file and then attempt to open it in AMOS again.
2. Verify the version compatibility: Confirm that your version of AMOS is compatible with the version of SPSS used to create the file. Sometimes, compatibility issues arise if you are using an older version of AMOS that does not support the file format created by a newer version of SPSS. Make sure you have the latest updates for both AMOS and SPSS.
3. File integrity: Check if the SPSS file itself is intact and not corrupted. Try opening the file in SPSS to ensure it can be accessed without any issues. If SPSS can read the file successfully, the problem might be specific to the AMOS software.
4. Reinstall AMOS: If none of the above steps resolve the issue, try uninstalling and reinstalling AMOS. This can help resolve any potential software conflicts or glitches that may be causing the problem.
5. Contact support: If the problem persists after attempting these troubleshooting steps, consider reaching out to the technical support team for both AMOS and SPSS. They can provide further assistance and guidance tailored to your specific situation.
By following these steps, you should be able to diagnose and resolve the issue with AMOS not being able to read your SPSS file.
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I have 10 items for a variable and I want to find out how to delete an item in AMOS? On what basis an item should be deleted?
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Dear Anandhi Kausik,
In AMOS, deleting an item from a measurement model or a structural model should be done carefully and based on certain criteria. Here are some common guidelines to consider when deciding whether to delete an item:
1. Item-Total Correlation: Check the correlation between each item and the total score of the scale. If an item has a low correlation with the total score compared to other items, it may be a candidate for deletion. A commonly used threshold is a correlation below 0.3.
2. Factor Loading: Assess the factor loadings of each item. Items with low factor loadings (below 0.4 or 0.5) on their respective latent variables may indicate poor measurement quality and could be considered for deletion.
3. Modification Indices: Examine the modification indices, which indicate how much the model fit would improve if a specific parameter were freely estimated. High modification indices suggest that an item's removal could improve the model fit, although caution should be exercised as it is possible to overfit the model.
4. Theoretical Grounding: Consider the theoretical relevance and conceptual basis of each item. Ensure that removing an item does not compromise the underlying construct being measured or the theoretical framework of your study.
5. Substantial Change: Evaluate the impact of removing an item on the reliability and validity of the scale. Removing an item should not substantially alter the psychometric properties or the overall meaning of the construct being measured.
6. Content Analysis: Conduct a thorough content analysis of the item and seek expert opinions. Determine if the item is clear, relevant, and adequately represents the construct of interest.
It is important to note that the decision to delete an item should be made judiciously and in consultation with statistical and subject matter experts. Deleting an item can affect the validity and reliability of your measurement model, so it is crucial to carefully evaluate the implications before making any modifications.
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I am currently working with SEM for my paper. While checking my model fit I am facing a lot of problem. I am clicking the modifications indices option in calculate estimate, but while running model fit in plugins, it automatically clicked modifications indices and residual and showing error. I am attaching picture here. If you have any tricks please share me.
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Looking at your question, I believe you are facing issues related to model fit while using AMOS for SEM analysis. Here are some steps you can take to address these problems:
1. Check the model specification: SEM models are only as good as the assumptions and theoretical framework on which they are built. You should start by checking the model specification to ensure that it is valid and based on sound theoretical reasoning. This includes verifying the relationships between the variables in the model, specifying the measurement models, and ensuring that the model is properly identified.
2. Check the model fit indices: AMOS provides a number of model fit indices that can help you evaluate the adequacy of your model. These include chi-square, Comparative Fit Index (CFI), Tucker-Lewis Index (TLI), Root Mean Square Error of Approximation (RMSEA), and Standardized Root Mean Square Residual (SRMR). Look for values of CFI and TLI greater than 0.90, and values of RMSEA and SRMR less than 0.08.
3. Examine the modification indices: Modification indices suggest where the model may be improved by adding paths or freeing parameters. However, it is important to exercise caution when making modifications to the model, as this can result in overfitting and reduced generalizability. If you do decide to make modifications, do so in a systematic and theoretically informed way.
4. Check for model misspecification: If the model fit indices suggest that the model is misspecified, it may be necessary to revise the model specification. This can involve adding or removing variables, re-specifying the measurement models, or modifying the relationships between the variables.
5. Seek help from an expert: SEM can be a complex and challenging technique, especially for those who are new to it. If you are having difficulty interpreting your results or addressing model fit problems, it may be helpful to seek assistance from an experienced SEM researcher or statistician.
I hope these suggestions are helpful in addressing the issues you are facing in your SEM analysis.
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How to identify redundant items from Modification Indices (MI) during the model fitting of AMOS? Is it recommended value more than 15 or more than 10 recommended?
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Modification indices (MIs) could be used to identify potential cross-loadings and/or correlated error terms (indicating shared specific variance between indicators/items). The question, however, would be why you would want to eliminate "redundant" items. Typically, redundancy is a good thing for indicators that pertain to the same factor because redundancy means reliability of measurement in that context. Also, I would not stick to arbitrary numerical cutoff values because those are usually meaningless/not helpful.
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Shanthi, R's book Multivariate data analysis: using SPSS and AMOS is required for my studies. Is there anyone who can provide it? I greatly appreciate your support in making my studies successful. thank you.
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As an AI language model, I cannot provide physical copies of books or access copyrighted materials without proper authorization.
I recommend that you check with your local library to see if they have a copy of the book you are looking for. Alternatively, you can purchase the book from online book retailers or directly from the publisher. Many academic institutions also have access to electronic resources such as e-books, so you may want to check with your institution's library to see if they have an electronic version of the book available.
Please note that it is important to respect intellectual property rights and not engage in any activities that would violate copyright laws.
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Hello,
I am trying to test a bifactorial model (CFA) for the validation of a psychology scale but it says "The model is probably unidentified. In order to achieve identifiability, it will probably be necessary to impose 1 additional constraint."
I don't understand how to solve the problem. What are the constraints to be added?
Thanks for your help!
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You need to fix one loading on the general factor to 1 for identification. From the picture, it appears that none of the general factor loadings has been fixed. This may explain the problem.
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Achievement Grade
90 until 100 =A+ = (rating value 10)
80 until 89 = A = (rating value 9)
70 until 79 = A- = (rating value 8)
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40 until 44 = E = (rating value 2)
0 until 39 = G = (rating value 1)
absence = TH =(rating value 0)
total 3 exam result with the grade rating value.
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For example, I read a few papers that mentioned formative constructs unsuitable as the SEM's dependent variable.
"As stated earlier, a formative construct is defined by its indicators. A change in a formative unobserved construct cannot take place without a change also taking place in the indicators. Hence, I think it is a good idea to discuss the appropriate way to model relationships in a SEM model with formative constructs. If a formative construct is directly influenced by its indicators, then any antecedent/predictor constructs must have a relationship to these indicators instead of the higher order construct. A common mistake is for a predictor construct to have a direct relationship to a higher order formative construct. The higher order construct can- not change without a change in the first order constructs. Thus, if a formative construct is a dependent variable, the predictor construct needs to form a relationship to the first order constructs to have an influence on the overall formative construct. For further discussion on why endogenous formative constructs need to have relationships modeled on the first order level, see Lee and Cadogan (2013)." (Collier, 2020, p.115)
What if the research aims to test the reflective constructs' influence on students' achievement analysis did not test the achievement since their achievement is valued based on their previous school test grade value (test1, test2, and test3)?
Since the Measurement Model for reflective constructs from questionnaires tested (CFA). It aims to see the influence of each construct on students' academic achievement. Will that be more convenient to directly put the students' academic achievement dependent variable (endogenous) as composite variables and fulfill the test purpose?
some book and papers for suggestion:
Collier, J. E. (2020). Applied structural equation modeling using AMOS: Basic to advanced techniques. Routledge.
Cadogan, J. W., & Lee, N. (2013). Improper use of endogenous formative variables. Journal of Business Research, 66(2), 233–241. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jbusres. 2012.08.006
Lee, N., & Cadogan, J. W. (2013). Problems with formative and higher-order reflective variables. Journal of Business Research, 66(2), 242–247. https://doi.org/10.1016/j. jbusres.2012.08.004
Please share any supported paper with me. I appreciate your help and thank you!
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After running model on AMOS I am not getting any output path or any value in Estimates this note appears in the text output: Unidentified. please help me to solve this problem
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Hello VIkas,
Without knowing more about the nature of your data and your target model, I can only offer some general suggestions.
1. It's possible that your data set of observed variables exhibits one or more undesirable characteristics, which inhibits the finding of a solution. A Heywood case is one well-known example. Small sample sizes and/or the use of varying numbers/sets of cases for estimation of correlations/covariances are two common causes.
2. You need to adjust the number of estimation iterations that the software uses as a halting point, to a higher value.
3. You are apparently specifying a bidirectional influence: choice -> chain, and chain -> choice, which makes estimation far more challenging (and obviates simple path analysis as an analytic model option).
If you could elaborate your query, perhaps others could offer more focused recommendations.
Good luck with your work.
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Dears, I have 16 latent variables, and I planned to use AMOS. Is it possible to use AMOS or does the model become saturated?
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When I hear someone wanting to use a lot of latent variables I am reminded of the following quote:
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The reader already familiar with factor analysis may be surprised that our emphasis, in theory and examples, is on models with only one or two latent variables. On the other hand, we pay more attention to questions of sampling variability and goodness of fit than is usual. This shift of emphasis is deliberate because we wish to stay within the bounds of what is statistically defensible. As we proceed, it will become apparent that serious questions of identifiability, precision and interpretation arise as the complexity of the models increases. We think the advance of knowledge is best served by building on relatively secure, if modest, base rather than risking becoming lost in a morass of ambiguity and uncertainty. \citep[pp.~xi-xii]{BartholomewKnott1999} \label{foot:Barthquote}
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I was revising a scale and ran into some problems.
It is a second order model with two latent variables in the first order and a total score in the higher order.
When I was using AMOS for CFA, the correlation path that MI suggested to add appeared to be correlated across the two dimensions. It does not meet the TLI good-fit criteria without adding it.
But it is said that I cannot correlate across dimensions, which is said to indicate poor discriminant validity of the scale.
What should I do? I would be grateful for the help from experts.
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I would not recommend adding residual correlations solely based on what is suggested by modification indices (MI). MIs are purely statistical/atheoretical and can be quite misleading. You should ask yourself whether there is a meaningful substantive/theoretical reason why the items in question may have a residual association above and beyond what is accounted for by the factors. Why would they share any specific variance components? For example, do the items share similar content, wording, or other method effects?
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My SPSS AMOS V. 23 shows that: The file C:/user/Mr.SHEDRACK/AppData/Local/Temp/spss22060/spss1.sav, is in the wrong format.
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Hello Shedrack,
Unfortunately, that's too little detail to suggest a cause to me.
Let me suggest that you post a small portion of your data set, with variable names and declarations, along with the intended model you wish to evaluate via AMOS. I believe you'd get more focused recommendations on how to proceed.
Good luck with your work.
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I am planning to analyze my data with a custom build model in the PROCESS Macro (Hayes). I know that you can calculate model fit indizes with for example AMOS and report them in your thesis. Is is possible to calculate something like that with PROCESS? And if not is it necessary to report them or not? What's the best way to handle this? I am thankful for every input and all tipps you give me. Thanks in advance.
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The first model is non-saturated because there is no direct path between M1 and M3. I believe the second one is saturated.
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The measurement of the conceptual model includes 7 factors.
Instead of using the AVE values and correlation (Fornell-Larcker, 1981), the reviewer requested me to use the chi-square difference test to confirm discriminant validity as suggested by Anderson & Gerbing (1988). I used AMOS to perform the Chi-square tests.
However, there is an inconsistency between the two methods. The result with Chi-square tests is not as good as that with AVE values.
Why did this inconsistency happen?
Where did I do wrong when performing the Chi-square test?
Could you suggest to me ways to justify non-significant differences in chi-square tests?
Thank you very much!
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Hi,
the AVE (like other fit *measures*) were invented because people did not like what the chisquare *test* said about their models ;) And if it your test is significiant then either the data assumptions are so heavily violated that the test does not work properly (hence, if e.g. your data is heavily nonnormal, use a corrected version of the chisquare test) or that the model structure is misspecified (which in my estmation is the case in 90% of models). This misspecification may be trivial --which means that your overall structure is ok but you missed some things and these omissions would not bias the effects of the correct part. However, it may be fundamental and the overall structure is wrong. The problem is, you don't know what's the case.
Unfortunately, AMOS does not help you in this regard, hence, your review may be the necessary input and incentive to now invest a few days and use the free lavaan package in R (www.lavaan.org).
If you allow me a self-citation, this paper (study I) presents a CFA that was initially misspecified and it presents what I did to locate and adress the problem. The reason why I post this is that this is the only published case I know where reviewers did not cry in agony when an author trims the model (a weird collective habit in our field) and I was "allowed" (so to speak) to demonstrate the process. In the paper, we also discuss that this model trimming has (of course) some negative implications. However, in my view, an acceptable cost in contrast to keeping a perhaps fundamentally wrong model.
Rosman, T., Kerwer, M., Steinmetz, H., Chasiotis, A., Wedderhoff, O., Betsch, C., & Bosnjak, M. (2021). Will COVID‐19‐related economic worries superimpose health worries, reducing nonpharmaceutical intervention acceptance in Germany? A prospective pre‐registered study. International Journal of Psychology. https://doi.org/doi.org/10.1002/ijop.12753
There is an available R code associated with this paper that you can download here:
Hope that helps
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Dear all, I am conducting SEM with AMOS and I understood first I have to do CFAs to evaluate the model fit. I want to control for the country of origin in my path model (we have two countries). Do I have to include this control variable already in CFA or do I run CFA without it and then include the control in path analysis? Thanks for your help! Ilia
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I would recommend running a multigroup CFA (with country as grouping variable). That way, you can check whether the same factor model applies in both countries and test for measurement equivalence across countries. You could do the same in your path analysis or SEM (run it as a multigroup analysis).
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Hello, I've done a CFA and want to compare a first-order model with a second-order model. Can anyone give me a hint on how to do this in AMOS? I found many tutorials, but the comparisons presented in them are either only for first-order models or only for second-order models. Is it possible to compare these different models in AMOS?
Best,
Karolina
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Christian Geiser thank you very much for your help.
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I am currently working with a study titled "Knowledge, Competency, Adoptability and Sustainability of Artificial Intelligence (AI) Technology Among Physician Entrepreneurs in GCC Countries". I am in dilemma that which SEM model AMOS/SmartPLS will suit for the study. The total responses received so far is 220 out of the population size of 400. The main objective is to find out knowledge , competency, adoptability and sustainability of Artificial intelligence among Physician entrepreneurs.
I will be much thankful to you, if you can extend your kind feedback on this.
Regards
Dr.Sharfras Navas
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Amos is used to confirm a theory and smartpls is used to enhance a theory as In your case your smart pls would be better as you are trying to find variance between variables. moreover 220 sample size in amos will make a problem because you will have to clean data normality issue etc. So smart pls is better option
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Hello researchers!
I want to run a simple Cross-lagged panel model on SPSS AMOS. My data only consists of 2 variables and 2 measurement time points.
Unfortunately I can´t find any tutorial on youtube how to run cross-lagged panel analysis with AMOS.
Does anybody know a tutorial or step-to-step guide about how to run simple cross-lagged panel analysis with AMOS?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi Lauren,
did you read my post? As I wrote, a CLPM has two or more variables, each measured at different points in time. Then you specify autoregressive effects of each variable on its version later at the time and the proposed causal lagged effects (e.g., X_t1 on Y_t2). As an alternative, you may specify all possible effects. And still another alternative, you specify "synchronous" effects (e.g., from X_t2 to Y_t2).
An alternative to such autoregressive models could be latent change score models which-in contrast to the between-persons CLPM--allows to model individual change.
McArdle, J. J. (2009). Latent variable modeling of differences and changes with longitudinal data. Annual Review of Psychology, 60, 577-605. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev.psych.60.110707.163612
HTH
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I have estimated the following model in AMOS but I get the following error "The model is probably unidentified. In order to achieve identifiability, it will probably be necessary to impose 1 additional constraint" Can anyone tell me how to solve this? Thank you very much.
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Your latent dependent variable has only one indicator. The model is not identified unless you
  • add at least one more indicator for this latent variable or
  • fix the error variance of the single indicator to a meaningful value or
  • use the single indicator directly as the dependent variable (without the factor/latent variable).
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Hello,
I have survey data that I am attempting to use in IBM AMOS to create a SEM UTAUT model. However, during output, for "Result" I get:
Minimum was achieved
The model is probably unidentified. In order to achieve identifiability, it will probably be necessary to impose 7 additional constraints.
Chi-square = 2417.406
Degrees of freedom (corrected for nonidentifiability) = 82
Probability level = .000
I know close to nothing about statistics, and am a total newbie when it comes to AMOS, but from what I gather, that chi-square is bad; also for P CMIN/DF I get 29.481, which I also think is not great since it is greater than 3.
The SEM Model is supposed to be UTAUT model. Worst case scenario, can I still use the data as is? If so, how to correctly interpret the data? I have provided the model.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
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In general, you should not interpret the parameter estimates or fit statistics for an underidentified model. They may be completely incorrect/misleading.
SEM is a complex statistical methodology. You mention that you "know close to nothing about statistics." I would say, given that, it is not a good idea for you to use SEM unless you are guided by a statistician who is an expert in SEM and AMOS. There is a lot that can go wrong with SEM.
In your case, you have two latent variables (PerformanceExpectancy and EffortExpectancy) that each have only one indicator (observed/measured variable). These latent variables are not identified unless you add more indicators or fix the error variances of the indicators to a meaningful value. Also, your endogenous (dependent) latent variable does not seem to have an indicator (measured variable) at all.
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Hi all,
can you please suggest the book chapter publication in AMOS/ Research method ? i want to publish my book chapter.
Regards,
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All the best!
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Hi, I have three formative/first order constructs (one has five 2nd order constructs, other has three and the third also has three 2nd order constructs) and one moderator. The model is find with nine out of these 12 total variables in CFA. However, as I add another variable the model becomes unidentifiable.
The model is probably unidentified. In order to achieve identifiability, it will probably be necessary to impose 1 additional constraint.
Any suggestions please
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As I add the factor EP.R, the model becomes unidentifiable. Once I delete it, the model is fine. What could be the possible reasons. The error terms is:
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The model is probably unidentified. In order to achieve identifiability, it will probably be necessary to impose 1 additional constraint.
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Hello!
In general, as a rule of thumb, what is the acceptable value for standardised factor loadings produced by a confirmatory factor analysis?
And, what could be done/interpretation if the obtained loadings are lower than the acceptable value?
How does everyone approach this?
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@ Ravisha Jayawickrama. Most sources accept value for standardised factor loadings above 0.4
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Drawing on the theories, I have developed the conceptual model depicted in the figure. All variables are latent, and I intent to run CB-SEM due to confirmatory nature of the model. Considering the ModV is a DV to the IV, MedV1 and MedV2, I wonder whether the model is technically(SEM-wise) sound? If so, I would appreciate if you could provide me with the guidelines on how to test the model in AMOS.
Thanks.
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Thank you, Michael Felix Noel ! All of the PROCESS templates assume the ModV being an IV in it's own right. I wonder whether they apply to my model in which the ModV is a consequence of other antecedents (i.e. the IV, MedV1 and MedV2)?