University of Ouargla
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Asked 4 December 2019
What is the interest to publish papers in journals which are not indexed neither by SCOPUS or by Web of Science?
Papers published in journals which are not indexed by SCOPUS or Web of Science, are not considered for the national assessment of researchers or laboratory performances in many countries. It thus would be much more interesting to publish in journals indexed by SCOPUS or Web of Science, or both . Otherwise the quality of their content may be subject to caution.
This question might overlap with the interest to publish in open-access journals, which for many of them are not indexed, - mainly because they prevent the leaders of edition from some money. Among these open access journals, there might be some good journals, but they are still considered with caution due to the situation in regard of major indexation sites.
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Federal University of Minas Gerais
There is another point to be considered. Some journals are not indexed by SCOPUS or Web of Science because their articles are not written in English. However, there are good and respectful journals with very good articles written in their native languages because some specific topics are more interesting to local audiences, with more potential readings, than if these articles were published in an international journal (e.g. case studies from a specific area). Here in Brazil, the journal called "Águas Subterrâneas" (Groundwater Journal) is very important, with a good audience, but the majority of the papers are written in Portuguese.
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Federation University
That is true in many cases Gil - but I believe that the rules are changing due to the advent of many more 'emerging' journals that are reputable and 'chasing' to become established as ranked journals. A highly competitive publishing market means that not everyone can publish in ranked journals. My personal advice is to try ranked journals first, and if unsuccessful, try non-ranked journals with an emerging reputation.
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Institute of Research for Development
Thanks Dean
it is a wise suggestion.
Do you have any knowledge about how to find "emerging good journals" ?
I know about emerging journals by Web of Science.
I do not know about such partition with Scopus.
I think there are alternate ranking for open access journals, but always seen bad recommendations about them.
Any good information to share about this ?
thanks
Gil
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Université Libanaise, laboratoire de recherche L'EA 1210 CEDETE (Université d'Orléans)
there are reviews classified HECERS are of a high quality
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Institute of Research for Development
Thomson Reuters, now Clarivate Analytics
promotes the Emerging Citation Index
which could be refered as "second class" journal citation index...
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University of Sciences and Technology Houari Boumediene
Hello Gil
It is very interesting this topic,
it is certain that everyone prefers to publish in indexed journals SCOPUS or Web of Science but sometimes these journals take a long time to process the submitted articles and therefore their publication can go up to 2 years or more to see the light of day
Thanks
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Institute of Research for Development
A list of "predatory" journals, as refered to by the Beall’s list at web.archive.org.
within which you can publish a paper, most often after a very light review and money transfer
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Institut International d'ingénierie de l'eau et de l'environnement
Dear Prof. Mahe,
I believe this recent paper, published in 2019 and presenting Kscien's list of predatory journals will be of much interest to you.
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Institute of Research for Development
But this seems not so simple too me.
If you want to publish in an American journal you have to pay a very expensive amount of money. Moreover the publication is not open access unless you pay more...
So why other editors would not request being paid for publications ? This is just the same than are doing many editors.
And in the case of many of these news editors rhey offer open access free.
This is most interesting for many researchers across the world who can not afford huge edition fares.
Then the question is why a journal should be qualified as serious or not? Who decides?
The best way would be to look at the number of citations of the papers by colleagues. If the paper is cited it means that it is interesting for many.
If not cited it means that its content do not deserves much interest.
Moreover the 2 main indexes Web of Knowledge and SCOPUS are the property of huge editors... so they themselves give the rules and olay the game.
Until when?
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Djillali Liabes University Sidi Bel Abbès
Hi,
In Algeria, a PHD student cannot defend his thesis if he does not have an article (at least) classified in scientific journals selected by the national commission under the direction of the Ministry of Higher Education and Scientific Research. This commission also publishes each year the list of predatory journals with predatory publishers
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Djillali Liabes University Sidi Bel Abbès
Yes, the list is mainly issued from Web of Science and Scopus. There are also De Gruyter journals , AERES journals , CNRS ...
Here, the web site of the General Direction of Scientific Research where the journals are published
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Federal University of Minas Gerais
There is another point to be considered. Some journals are not indexed by SCOPUS or Web of Science because their articles are not written in English. However, there are good and respectful journals with very good articles written in their native languages because some specific topics are more interesting to local audiences, with more potential readings, than if these articles were published in an international journal (e.g. case studies from a specific area). Here in Brazil, the journal called "Águas Subterrâneas" (Groundwater Journal) is very important, with a good audience, but the majority of the papers are written in Portuguese.
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Federal University of Minas Gerais
I had manuscripts submitted to international journals in which the editor did not consider them for publication just because the topic was very local and, therefore, of low interest to the international community.
Of course there is almost no interest in publishing in a not scopus- indexed journal, I agree. I don't agree with the second part of the post, which relates the open access status with the indexing. Many open access journal are indexed in scopus. ACS, RSC, Wiley, MDPI, and more, propose open access journals indexed in scopus and web of science.
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Institute of Research for Development
For papers written in other langages than English, and not published in indexed journals, you can try to post their automatic translation, on RG for instance, and give the reference to the original edited paper.
This could increase their interest to a larger audience, and rise their level of citation, which would be visible by google Scholar for instance.
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Nottingham Trent University
Then the question is, what is preventing then from being part of SCOPUS or Web of Science? I think their mode of review and other factor that does not merit being part of SCOPUS or Web of Science. We all know that SCOPUS or Web of Science requires rigorous review which are not being considered in most of non-SCOPUS or Web of Science journals.
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University of Lahore
One of the requirements for indexation in these databases is "2 year Publication" which means journals have to be in publication for 2 years before they can apply.
Absolutely agree with policy of these databases. There must be quality checks.
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Nottingham Trent University
Ammar, most of them have been in the publishing business for more than two years but still can't apply. This means there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere.
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Institute of Research for Development
Yes SCOPUS and Web of Knowledge require that the reviewing process be secured and validated. I know several journals which after being newly included in SCOPUS were removed from the indexation because they could not present adequate procedures.
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Al-Azhar International Grammar School
There are many open access journals which are indexed by Scopus and Web of Science.
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Al-Azhar International Grammar School
I have found some open access journals indexed by Scopus and Web of Science.
Even the h-index more than 50.
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Al-Azhar International Grammar School
There many journals non indexed yet. Some articles' quality of non indexed journals better then some articles have been published in indexed journals.
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Al-Azhar International Grammar School
I always try to complete my scholarly part 95% to make an acceptable contribution. Before submitting in journal ether indexed or non indexed I do not relay on reviewers. On the one hand, I play my scholarly roles 95% as an author to outstanding unique contribution in my articles. On the other hand, I play 97% as a reviewer in my articles. Then I submit in journal.
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Al-Azhar International Grammar School
I belief that as I am a researcher I have to appreciate the valued readers, scientists, scholars and researchers than journals. My article will be published in indexed journals or non-indexed is not matter to me. But I am very serious about my work quality. If my works be accepted by scholars although it has been published in non-indexed journal no problem. I always appreciate my works and readers.
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Institute of Research for Development
Dear Sirajul Islam
thanks for your contribution to this question.
Yes there are many open access journals indexed, and some of them with very high h index (or IF). Open access does not mean that the journals are less interesting. there are ma ny journals in the world which exist since long and where you have to pay to be published, even not open access.
But not indexed journals are not taken into account by our adminsitrations for promotion.
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Institute of Research for Development
Dear Fady
I agree with you, with however one detail: scopus and WoS are notnal9ha andbomega of publications. They belong to huge edition compagnies which search for profit and give rules we have to.follow and vreate indicators used by administrations. This should be not the standard. We scientists do not need these editors and their rules nor pay to publish. Instead we might create new free of charge journals in web support, which could be managed fully by scientists, and be of high quality even if not SCOPUS nor Wos indexed.
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Bharati Vidyapeeth College of Engineering, Delhi
very enriching and interesting discussion .
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Institute of Research for Development
Thanks
Although it takes time to create such a new free journal on line, I think it is a MUST DO thing, to stop being ruled only by the indicators of huge editors.
Then the second thing to do is to push forward among the community the seriouness of this new edition process and receive good papers to publish. We then have to convince our administrations to take into account alternative publications in the assessment process.
Shri Jagdishprasad Jhabarmal Tibrewala University
How to identify best journal ,there are lots of fake publication?
Institute of Research for Development
First if the journal is not indexed by scopus ans or by web of science, it is better not to publish in it -for most of physical sciences.
Then look at the quartile, 4th quartile jiurnals often present some editional problem -low quality of reviewing process, irregularity of issues, low quality papers.
"Subsurface History of Humanity: Direction of History" book
My research is at the crossroads of many scientific fields. I'm pretty sure it is outside the area of interest for most scholars in those fields. I did not expect much interest in the short run. Moreover, my articles are unsuited for being cited in specific narrow research fields. From that viewpoint, it did not matter which journal my pieces would be published in.
The primary consideration was how fast I could publish my texts.
Institute of Research for Development
Long time ago journals were directed by academicians societies, we paid to publish, but only for printing services and some secretariat expenses, not to make profit. The fees for publication has increased since private edition companies have decided to make profit on this business.
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