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Started 5th Apr, 2019

How do you understand the neutron lifetime difference between tropped p and bottle n?

Eighty years after Chadwick discovered the neutron, physicists today still cannot agree on how long the neutron lives. Measurements of the neutron lifetime have achieved the 0.1% level of precision (~ 1 s). However, results from several recent experiments are up to 7 s lower than the (pre2010) particle data group (PDG) value. Experiments using the trap technique yield lifetime results lower than those using the beam technique. The PDG urges the community to resolve this discrepancy, now 6.5 sigma.
I think the reason is “tropped p ”method had not count the number of protons in the decay reaction(n→p+e+ve+γ).As a result ,the number of decay neutrons obtained were low .This affected the measurement of neutron lifetime.Do you agree with me?

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Shuraik Kader
Griffith University
General lifetime of of a floating neutron outside of an atom is 15 minutes. For more information regarding neutron oscillations please check with following paper:
Hong Du
Independent
Basically neutron has relativistic past that dilated time. This is generalized as excited states. The excited atates takes extra time to decay. Bottle methods waits hundreds and thousands of seconds to measure, so it measured ground state lifetime. Beam method takes measurements right after neutron creation, it contains extra time, so lifetime is longer
Hong Du
Independent
If you don't believe me, you can search the literature to find out the Mampe paper and they have lifetime measurement with different waiting times. The shorter the waiting time, the longer the lifetime.
For storage time between 112-225 seconds, lifetime is 891 seconds, storage interval of 225-450 seconds, lifetime is 888.5, storage time above 900 seconds, lieftime is 887.0 seconds. See the attached screenshot.

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