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Asked 21st Aug, 2022

Hi. Is the reaction between primary amine and Si-OH possible or not?

I saw this sentence .Hydroxyl group and amino group are the both nuclephilic. So no reaction will take place
I have prepared a sample and apparent physical properties show excellent coverage, but I do not how to explain. can anyone help me?

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22nd Aug, 2022
James E Hanson
Seton Hall University
What kind of reaction?
surface Si-OH is relatively acidic.
amine is basic
so Si-OH + R3N -> Si-O- + R3N-H +
ionic forces will hold them together.
but if you wash with water they may desorb
if you wash with acidic water at a low enough pH to protonate Si-O- it will definitely desorb.
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25th Aug, 2022
Sura Salim
University of Mosul
believe
There is no interaction

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