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Asked 27th Mar, 2017

Counseling psychologists and guidance counselors the same?

Hi!
I'm wondering if there are any articles or literature out there that state that counseling psychologists and guidance counselors are similar? Or that they go through similar tasks?
Particularly with regard to the types of clients they handle, or their approach, or their tasks within the workplace (eg. do counselors do more paperwork?).
Anything like that.
Thank you!

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23rd Apr, 2017
Douglas Cave
University of British Columbia - Vancouver
 Counselling psychology (CNPS) originated in the areas of career and guidance counselling. A counselling psychologist is a psychologist with advanced in areas such as: individual and group psychotherapy, psychometric testing, assessment, etc. The orientation is often more holistic, but is trained to treat the full spectrum of pathology and normalcy related concerns. Depending on training and practice area, may or may not  be licensed to diagnose, conduct diagnostic assessments or work in medical context. All psychologists write the same licensure exams. Some regulatory bodies are clear to state that a psychologist is just a psychologist and is not differentiated based on training. That means framing it as 'I'm a psych and trained in the area of X' rather than 'I'm X-type psych'.
Guidance may be social worker, Master's-level trained counsellor (often MEd), CNPS, etc. If MEd is the training, then its often a 1-year master's degree program with a focus on school and non-adult-related course work. 
Some jurisdictions have legislative differences between healthcare providers and non-healthcare providers. In my jurisdiction, this is the case. It means that the non-healthcare professional guidance counsellor does not have a license, but may be voluntarily registered with a fraternity-like body that may or may not have ethical review process intended to protect the public. CNPS who is licensed, is a regulated health professional and has a regulatory body whose purpose is to regulate psychologists for protection of the public. Psychologists therefore have to follow all healthcare provider legislation in the protection of the public. Failure risks penalty from regulatory body. Whereas guidance does not. have the same legislative requirements and has no license to maintain. 
Tameka Romeo said that CNPS and guidance are the same discipline with different scopes of training. That is partially correct in that CNPS usually means someone is trained at the doctoral-level and is often able to write the licensing exams and register as a psychologist. Guidance is often someone who finished university training with a Master's degree, often Master's degree in Education. However, a CNPS may work in the school system as guidance. 
Christian Haarala Björnberg said it is country dependent. That is partly accurate. It is also dependent to some degree on the  jurisdiction within there country where they work. 
I do not know how to attach publication here. There is an article on my profile that describes CNPS and some non-psychologist counselling in a Canadian context, The article reviews how CNPS is defined in other countries as well.
Douglas

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27th Mar, 2017
Judith Miranti
Xavier University of Louisiana
The two disciplines may share similar tasks, but their identities, traing and education are different
27th Mar, 2017
Amante Gonzalez
Andrews University
I'd recommend looking for articles specifically addressing "professional identity". While counseling psychologists and clinical therapists/counselors often work with similar client populations, their outlook and approach to dealing with the popultion is notably different.
In a relatively synopsized version, counseling psychologists tend to work with clientele from a more scientific perspective, using a lens primarily oriented around assessment and psychopathology. The training required to become a counseling psychologist is also usually more time and labor intensive.
In regards to being a counselor/therapist, their approach is primarily influenced or categorized as an educational approach. Their training and education is primarily focused on teaching the client.
There are numerous similarities between the two professional identities and many programs at overlap each other in terms of their pre-requisites or course goals.
I'd say that clinical psychologists tend to view the world/clients from a slightly more scientific/empirical/concrete/assessment perspective while counselors tend to be more phenomenological/teaching/educational/subjective perspective. 
27th Mar, 2017
Klaus E. Cavalhieri
University at Albany, The State University of New York
As previously suggested, a good article regarding the professional identity of Counseling Psychologists is Fouad et al's (2004). 
27th Mar, 2017
Rohit Manilal Parikh
The Maharaja Sayajirao University of Baroda
As we all know that psychology is the reflection of our mind & with our inner urge & the development of our psychic environment in the line with our experience,training thru the help of power of prayer & meditation with the breathing will may developed & energy force of the power of within & also with our intuition power counselling of psychology may certainly prove to be a right type of psychic tech .
Guidance Counselor is not only related to the psychologist but it relates to quite many areas which we may be required to under go in our working environment .
This is my personal opinion 
28th Mar, 2017
Sudha Nagarajan
Montclair State University
Counseling Psychologists come from the discipline of Psychology (Counseling Psychology pertains to Division 17 in American Psychological Association structure).
My understanding is that there is a trend to de-pathologize mental health and so Counseling Psychology aligns itself to a less clinical approach in providing mental healthcare.  The perspective is more towards wellness, positive psychology and prevention.
Guidance Counselors typically come from the discipline of Counseling with separate education and experiential requirements.  Typically they work in K-12 schools in the U.S. to do academic advising.  They refer to mental health counselors for any mental health concerns of students.  
Counseling itself is premised on a worldview of holistic wellness, client empowerment and strengths-based approaches to achieving mental, emotional and educational wellbeing.
28th Mar, 2017
Jessica Hottinger
University of Derby
Here in the UK, counsellors do not focus as much on education nor work as much in an educational setting as they would in the US from what I gather. When I was a counsellor I worked in a youth counselling service, age 17 to 21, in a Women's Centre and in a Youth Offenders' Institution.
In the IAPT (Improving Access to Psychological Therapies) service where I now work there are counsellors and clinical psychologists and counselling psychologists as well as CBT therapists seeing the same client group: primary care from age 17 upwards.
Have a look at the websites for the various websites of the professional bodies here in the UK: UKCP, BABCP, BPS and BACP to get a flavour of the training requirements and outlook.
Warm regards
30th Mar, 2017
Thida Chak
University of Health Sciences - Cambodia
I also agree with some answers. It is the same disciplines, but different degree of education. Reminds that counselor can be others professional who has been trained(ex: Social worker, teacher, nurse..etc.
31st Mar, 2017
Sam Steen
George Mason University
Hi Antonio,  in your question what context would these two work?  In a school setting? 
31st Mar, 2017
Christian Haarala Björnberg
Örebro University Hospital
Completely dependent on in which country the question is asked!
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2nd Apr, 2017
Antonio Bicos Jr
De La Salle Health Sciences Institute
Hi everyone and thank you for you answers! 
Sam Steen:
Yes, it is meant to be in a school setting. :)
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