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Asked 25 October 2017

Can you run TBSS on cortical-subcortical regions?

Hi guys,
I'm thinking of analysing TBSS on the cerebellum and I was wondering if it is possible to extract FA values out from it?
Thanks for the help!

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Efference-copy development explained using the thinking of Thach (1992)?
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  • Edward J TehovnikEdward J Tehovnik
Thach et al. (1992, see attached figure): The return loop of the cerebellar maps to the motor cortex via the cerebellar nuclei is from the fastigial nucleus (connected to the anterior lobe of cerebellum), the interpositus nucleus (connected to the posterior lobe of cerebellum), and the dentate nucleus (connected to the mediolateral lobe of cerebellum). Damage to the cerebellum or M1 abolishes the playing of musical instruments (Holmes 1922), which are highly automated acts (supporting a very high information transfer rate of 40 bits per second, Tehovnik and Chen 2015). Even though the establishment of an efference-copy signal occurs in the cerebellum (Bell et al. 1997; De Zeeuw 2021; Loyola et al. 2019; Shadmehr 2020; Tehovnik et al. 2021; Wang et al. 2023), the execution of an automated act depends on an intact neocortex to respond to a specific sensory context that triggers the act. Following such a trigger, a minimal number of synapses is utilized to shorten the response latency (Tehovnik, Hasanbegović, Chen 2024).
As suggested by the figure, M1 is considered part of the efference-copy loop; indeed, M1 receives a robust visual input (Tehovnik et al. 2013) that can trigger the discharge of its neurons to evoke body movements. On this point, it has been known for over 100 years that electrical stimulation of V1 paired with the electrical stimulation of M1 can condition a response such that V1 stimulation alone evokes muscle contractions (Doty 1969). This is a clear example of Hebbian learning and an early example of efference-copy development, but there was no linkage to the cerebellum at this time which harbors the circuitry for the efference-copy encoding for automaticity to be realized.
Is extending cognition to the cerebellum a misattribution?
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  • Edward J TehovnikEdward J Tehovnik
The polysynaptic connections between the neocortex and the cerebellum (as verified by fMRI resting-state functional connectivity) are such that the anterior lobe of the cerebellum mediates skeletomotor processing due to its connections with M1 and S1, that the mediolateral lobe mediates object processing due to its connections with the orbital and temporal cortices, and that the posterior lobe mediates spatial processing due to its connections with MT/MST (middle temporal and middle superior temporal cortices), the retrosplenial and parietal cortices, and the medial frontal lobes which house the ocular eye and head fields in primates (Chen and Tehovnik 2007; Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021). Van Overwalle et al. (2023) re-investigated the connections between the neocortex and the cerebellum as it pertains to human cognition using a database of 44,500 participants; it was hypothesized over two decades ago that the cerebellum is centrally involved in cognitive control (Schmahmann 1997). However, unlike the neocortical output which encodes information according to the senses, the cerebellar output operates according to a firing-rate code that is used in the contraction of muscles by circuits in the brain stem and spinal cord, converting all information entering the cerebellum into a muscle code (Herzfeld, Lisberger et al. 2023; Schiller and Tehovnik 2015; Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021). Furthermore, when the efference-copy signal is interrupted by electrical stimulation delivered either to the cerebellum or the saccade generator in the brain stem, primates never correct their memories following such interruption (Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021). A similar result occurs when the ocular proprioceptors are activated (Chen 2019; Roll and Roll 1987; Roll et al. 1991; Valey et al. 1994, 1995, 1997), which are known to send short-latency signals (within 4 ms) to the cerebellum for processing (Fuchs and Kornhuber 1969) which displaces the actual target location preventing a correction through vision: it takes over 30 ms for a visual signal to arrive at the cerebellum and brain stem (Miles and Lisberger 1981), thus being much too long to counter the effect of the proprioceptive perturbation. When perturbations occur by stimulation of the midbrain or neocortex the correct target location through memory is always acquired after the displacement; these regions are outside the efference-copy loop (Loyola et al. 2019; Shadmehr 2020; Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021).
Figure 1 summarizes the data of Van Overwalle et al. (2023, Fig. 4/King et al. 2019, re-analyzed) according to cognitive variables. Notice that in both anterior and posterior cerebellum there is a large representation from S1 and M1, which is consistent with the finding that 49% of the neocortex is dedicated to proprioception and movement (Sarubbo et al. 2020). Moreover, attentional processes have been attributed to the midline region of lobule V1 which contains neurons that respond during the execution of saccadic eye movements medially and head movements laterally (Fig. 8 of Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021). Much like the neocortex for which language/object encoding represents over 47% of the hemispheric real estate (Sarubbo et al. 2020), the cerebellar mediolateral lobe—which represents over half of the cerebellum—is also activated during language and object processing, even though a range of cognitive descriptors have been used to label the cerebellar functions such as ‘executive control’ and ‘mentalizing’ (i.e., watching movies), which in the neocortex includes the temporal and orbital cortices that store object information (Brecht and Freiwald 2012; Bruce et al. 1981; Schwarzlose et al. 2005; Schwiedrzik, Freiwald et al. 2015; Freiwald and Tsao 2010). The mentalizing/default label is known to include the cingulate cortex which is a fibre bundle linking various regions of the neocortex to the limbic system (Tehovnik, Hasanbegović, Chen 2024). It is noteworthy that the cerebellar real estate dedicated to limbic processes is minimal; the hippocampus (unlike the neocortex and cerebellum) is involved in transferring information rather than in the storage of information (Corkin 2002; Knecht 2004; Morrison and Hof 1997; Munoz-Lopez et al. 2010; Roux et al. 2021; Scoville and Milner 1957; Squire et al. 2001; Xu et al. 2016); it has been estimated that the storage capacity of the human cerebellum is 2.8 x 10^14 bits of information or 2^(2.8 x 10^14) possibilities, and the storage capacity of the human neocortex is 1.6 x 10^14 bits or 2^(1.6 x 10^14) possibilities (Huang 2008; Tang et al. 2001; Tehovnik, Hasanbegović, Chen 2024).
Figure 2 (modified from Fig. 4/King et al. 2019 of Van Overwalle et al. 2023) is used to simplify the representation for the cerebellum. As before, both the anterior and posterior lobes are dedicated to skeletomotor control with the posterior lobes also participating in spatial processing (a characteristic of MT/MST, the retrosplenial and parietal lobes, and medial frontal lobes). The oculomotor region is confined to lobule VI, and the mediolateral lobe subserves language and object processing. The cognitive labels used in the study of Van Overwalle et al. (2023) are indicated in parentheses.
Given that cognition depends on synaptic connectivity (‘for anesthesia [which disables the synapses] eliminates all sensation’, Hebb 1968) it is no surprise that this process has been ascribed to the cerebellum (Schmahmann 1997), which is polysynaptically connected to the neocortex with a comparable and proportionate representation of all neocortical functions (Buckner et al. 2011; King et al. 2019; Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021; Van Overwalle et al. 2023). The cerebellum, however, is not necessary for cognition even though severely damaged (or missing) it produces the retardation of one’s movements/ expressions (Yu et al. 2014). Cerebellar patients are still aware of the outside world since their vital senses are intact; yet they have great difficulty moving about. But if one cannot express their cognition/consciousness through dance, drawing, speaking, reading, and writing, for example, then the quality of life is severely compromised. The late Stephen Hawking, who suffered from ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), is a case in point: toward the end of his life his movements were reduced to the transfer of 0.1 bits per second, which was based on the output of a cheek muscle and information of which was transferred to operate a communication device (Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021). Importantly, neocortical neurons consume 20 times more energy per neuron than do cerebellar neurons during immobility (Herculano-Houzel 2011). This has been attributed to the neocortex requiring high energy consumption to support cognition while immobile, i.e., while thinking, whereas the cerebellum is engaged when movements are being generated, which is always required to update an efference-copy code as it pertains to a behavior being updated (Tehovnik, Hasanbegović, Chen 2024). In closing, the functionality of the cerebellum and the neocortex can be described by Kahneman’s (2011) ‘thinking fast’ and ‘thinking slow’. ‘Thinking fast’ is dependent on rapid motor responses with little thinking, which has been associated with the cerebellum (Tehovnik, Hasanbegović, Chen 2024; Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021). ‘Thinking slow’ refers to the slow process of learning something new, which has been associated with the neocortex (Chen and Wise 1995ab; Hebb 1949, 1968; Kimura 1993; Ojemann 1991; Ito, Maldonado et al. 2022; Schwarzlose et al. 2005). But to be clear, both ‘thinking fast’ and ‘thinking slow’ require the cerebellum and the neocortex, but the difference is in the number of synapses recruited for information storage and behavioral execution: ‘thinking fast‘ necessitates fewer synapses than ‘thinking slow‘, since the latter is involved in the storage of new information through declarative and procedural learning, and in the creation of an efference-copy representation at the Purkinje neurons for the task being learned.
Neocortical-cerebellar loops mediate both classical and operant conditioning?
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  • Edward J TehovnikEdward J Tehovnik
The preparatory activity that precedes movement execution can be thought of as a thinking process that anticipates the characteristics of an up-and-coming movement (Darlington and Lisberger 2020; also see James 1890). For both classical and operant conditioning, ‘preparatory loops’ depend on the neocortex and cerebellum, as demonstrated for both eyeblink conditioning and response discrimination in mammals. In the case of eye-blink conditioning, the critical circuit for mediating this response when a delay is imposed between the offset of the conditioned stimulus and the onset of the unconditioned stimulus (called trace conditioning) involves the following loop in rabbits: the medial prefrontal cortex, the pontine nuclei, the cerebellum and its nuclei, and finally the mediodorsal thalamus (Kalmbach et al. 2009; Siegel et al. 2013). For this circuit, it has been demonstrated that the neocortex is necessary to generate the preparatory activity between the offset of the conditioned stimulus and the onset of the unconditioned stimulus at the level of the cerebellar mossy fibres (which carry the conditioned-stimulus signal) and the climbing fibres (which carry the unconditioned-stimulus signal). The activity of the mossy fibres must be extended beyond the offset of the unconditioned stimulus for there to be an association between the conditioned stimulus and unconditioned stimulus, and the greater the duration between conditioned-stimulus offset and unconditioned-stimulus onset beyond 300 ms, the more vital the preparatory activity for making an association (Kalmbach et al. 2009).
In the case of response discrimination, mice were trained to detect a probe making contact with either rostral or caudal vibrissae (of the right side of the body) such that a rostral touch signaled an up-and-coming leftward licking response, and a caudal touch signaled an up-and-coming rightward licking response (Gao et al. 1918; Hasanbegović 2024; Zhu et al. 2023). Before licking, however, a mouse was required to delay the response for 1 second or so (an imposed memory period) such that thereafter the presentation of an auditory cue triggered the response. The critical circuit for the response included the anterolateral motor cortex, the pontine nuclei, the cerebellum including the cerebellar nuclei, and the ventromedial thalamus. At all the stations within this loop, preparatory activity was exhibited by the neurons during the delay period. As well, interference during the delay period at any loop location interrupted response discrimination, which suggests that the preparatory activity across the loop locations is shared to generate a common discrimination response.
Much data suggest that the learning of classical (i.e., trace conditioning, but see Footnote 1 for delay conditioning) and operant tasks depend on the neocortex (and hippocampus) and the cerebellum (Corkin 2002; Kassardjian et al. 2005; Kalmbach et al. 2009; Kim et al. 1995; Kimura 1993; Logothetis et al. 2012; Marr 1969, 1971; Ojemann 1991; Pavlides and Winson 1989; Pavlov 1927; Penfield 1975; Penfield and Roberts 1966; Sendhilnathan et al. 2020b; Squire et al. 2001; Takahara et al. 2003; Vanderwolf 2007; Wilson and McNaughton 1994). This conclusion does not depart from the notions advanced by Hebb (1949, 1961, 1968), who was mainly focused on the neocortex. And during his tenure as a researcher, the details of the cerebellum were just starting to be worked out, but many of the observations made by Hebb such as his interest in illusions and eye movements with respect to visual images (including prism adaptation) can now be explained by our understanding of loops passing through the cerebellum (for details see: Tehovnik, Hasanbegović, and Chen 2024; also: Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021).
Footnote 1: Delay conditioning (but not trace conditioning) can occur in the absence of neocortex (Gallistel et al. 2022; Kalmbach et al. 2009; Mauk and Thompson 1987). However, it was apparent to Pavlov (1927) that many types of classical conditioning (even if of the delay type) are permanently abolished in the absence of neocortex. The reason for this is that without neocortex there are many sensory associations that can never be made. For example, following neocortical damage in mammals, pattern and depth perception is abolished, and following such damage in humans any association dependent on language is an impossibility (Kimura 1993; Ojemann 1991; Penfield and Roberts 1966; Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021). Furthermore, if just V1 is damaged, animals (including rodents and primates) experience blindsight: they can detect (unconsciously) only visual stimuli of contrast greater than 95% (Tehovnik, Patel, Tolias et al. 2021). In short, in the absence of neocortex the only associations that are made are those requiring high threshold sensory activation, such as when evoking sensations of pain (see Baron and Devor 2022).
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  • Katharine DobsonKatharine Dobson
Whichever method I try I get lots of white spaces that look like gaps in the ultrastructure or missing areas of tissue (see attached image) so i'm sure I must be doing something wrong.
Things are slightly complicated by the requirement to patch-clamp in the slice first and so they cannot be perfuse-fixed as the tissue needs to be fresh.
Any advice will be gratefully received!
Thanks, Katharine.
How to do ​​TBSS on stroke/lesioned brains?
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I'm processing a stroke patients dataset and I've been looking for a way to mask the lesions out during TBSS step.
However, I have 2 questions about the suggested workflow below:
- run tbss_1_preproc
- manually correct the masks within the FA directory that get created with tbss_1_preproc
- run tbss_2_reg_withmask
1)Why should I edit the output masks from tbss_1_preproc step?
2)Do I need to use the "Lesion Masking" tool in the Randomise step, even though the subjects were registered using FNIRT "--inmask" option to exclude the lesions? It seems somewhat redundant.
Thank you for your attention. Any help is highly appreciated!

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