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How the food security is possible for poor?
Food security means in our country 50 % of poor not getting food for 2 times aday
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@ Bashkim :
There are equal number of growing speeches as well as growing concepts.
"Speeches and concepts must be localized so that we understand what is required for us."
WHY PEOPLE ARE LAZY TO WORK? (pertaining to agriculture related issues)
1. Because they are not paid appropriately for what they are reaping.
2. Green Revolution did not paid importance to multy cropping system. Hence with mono cropping, enhanced pests (microbial, insect) is uncontrollable in natural means but requires change in bactericidal, fungal, insecticidal applications - that add to cost and intensive labor. Synergy in the soil biota has been altered.
3. Native seed production is not in picture.
4. In the conventional old system of agriculture was the method of addition of manurial practices was food for the soil. The present agricultural system is based on food for the growing crops. The former enriches the soil; the latter barens the soil.
5. Nuclear families need to hire labor. Labor requirement is same in a given time period because of monocropping system which doubles the demand to pay for the labor. Hiring mechanical is the added cost.
6. A balanced diet has become a mirage. The strength toil in the soil has dwindled. Allopathy medicines does not cure physiological disorders like B.P., diabetes, cholesterol; rather sickens as age advances.
7. Food pattern has been westernized.
SO IT IS EASIER TO POINT AT PEOPLE TO SAY THAT THEY ARE LAZY TO WORK. What you and me would have been done if we were to be in their position?
1. We would have been lazy
2. We would have also searched for greener pastures
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Dear Sunitha,
I understand and agee you at any point that you've written, there are many objective and subjective reasons that inflences in our discussion, and it is very difficult right now that we are going to show and to analyze them one by one.
Yes I am giving my answers for three of the questions that you have done, if we were in their postition namely:
no we were not lazy;
we had done it;
concepts are based on social-economic, and so it is very difficult to change it foe one day. -
WHAT CAN BE DONE WISELY? ( I am sure once again Nagaraju Jinka will dump me in the euphorian basket).
Its easier to point at the agri-community and to say do's and donts. This tendency must stop. Why should there be a farming community. Why can't all of us become a farming community and jump into actions. Afterall agriculture is etched in our blood for the same reason that all of our ancestral were agriculturists!
EDUCATION AND AGRICULTURE MUST GO HAND IN HAND.
1. It must be a law and order that each family must own a land and that the person having land must be provided job. And it must be a compulsory curriculum of every citizen to be engaed in a piece of land. That some percentage of his/her/their earnings must go in for land development and productions.
2.Certain facilities must be provided for those who return to soils even after higher education in any faculty. Even with thier educational careers there should be liberalization of agricultural activities to boost not only land productions but also to uplift one's agricultural family members.
3. Govt. must liberalize the cost of the land and also must make mandatory rules that at no given time that the land must be allowed vacant or fallow. Even under fallow some scientific methodologies to be followed in a limited time period, say, 1-2 years.
4. Now imagine how a country will appear. A scientist/ a medical doctor/a student/a factory worker/a teacher/ a professor of sociology. psychology, space science, geology, statistics is working in a famland! WHAT CAN BE THE RESULT - "innovations and implementations", "free hand in agriculture", "localized better and sustainable farming by each and everyone", "technologies pertaining to that productive area at the level of Taluk and district and state and country level will origin by the hands of everyone.
SO NOW THERE IS A PLACE WHERE ALL FACULTY OF EDUCATED CLASS ARE INTEND TO TAKE AGRICULTURE AND FOOD PRODUCTION AS THEIR FAMILY LIFE PATTERN. so much so that, implementations happen liberally with sound balance in food production to almost equality status that thier educated jobs become a hobby and thier agri-productions become a main job for sustainability. SO SOMEONE AS SCIENTIST, TECHNOCRAT, PROF, EDUCATIONIST, ECONOMIST sitting for implementations thro' speeches and writings and concept building will never go wrong as is the present scenario from America to Ethiopia (I don't see any progress in either countries). -
Dear Sunitha,
for some extent I agree with what you wrote above, but these smart people need to make laws applicable, be followed community awareness, and thus step by step to realize those together and you think that the some other conditions. -
Bashkim: Yes I am giving my answers for three of the questions that you have done, if we were in their postition namely:
no we were not lazy;
we had done it;
concepts are based on social-economic, and so it is very difficult to change it foe one day.
I expect your answers being at this moment of time - that you must come out of all of your education you earned; and all of your knowledge gained; and all of your experiences that you have gathered and become wise; - to remove everything all in all and BEING A UNDER EDUCATIVE (PRIMARY EDUCATION) WITH INNOCENT AND/OR IGNORANT FARMER and then answer to all the three pharases of 1. you would not have been lazy 2. you would not have done it 3. and social economic difficult to change in one day. -
Dear Sunitha,
You are a colleague who respects deserve special, ok, I go out from myself and are become as a man that thinks to no education, no job, no land, no family, no ..... Yes, it is difficult to obtain equal rights and obligations as the previous answers, but to have what we have said above that and I should be seen as a Bashkim. -
Rights is a concept which incidently had to be amended 100's of times & in practicality its still nearly useless. (includes rights for speeches)
I dont agree that people are lazy, especaily concerned to agriculture in India. Infact i would say average farmers work would be eqvivalent to twice the workout of bodybuilders not forgeting the conditions of field they work in. Few books that drew my attention were by Noam Chomsky, Ken Robinson, . (search goggle)
I hope new prespectives towards the current problems & expected or suggested solutions changes to involve more diversity based on varitey of subjects & concepts. -
Hi Ikshit
Could you, please, quote the names of the books that you refer at?
Is there any relations between food security and the written in the books?
Please let me check as I lost my way concerning the initial, and serious, debate.
In friendship
Amir -
Sunitha N Seenappa, I confess that I know very little about these agricultural matters, but I have a question. The "agricultural revolution" in the West was started in England about 1725, with the discovery of the rotation of crops. Instead of leaving the field fallow, it was in alternate years planted with a leguminous crop which increased the nitrogen content of the soil for subsequent crops of grain. The leguminous crop was generally fed to animals, which in turn provided both an important source of power for the farm, as well as food and fertilizer (manure). The result of all this was a reduction by around 1900 of over 80% of the labor needed for farming. So here's my question: Is the traditional (religious) Indian treatment of cattle perhaps holding back such an "agricultural revolution" in village India? I realize this question may be terribly naive, but I throw it out there for you anyway. :) ---------Regards, James -
Yes Amir. The reason for quoting those books(noam Chomsky- quoting passages would be difficult) were to support my initial comment that the dynamics of the system upon which economy is based on is the reason for current status of malnutrition & ecological damage , why anykind of food security bill won't serve the purpose. Vandana shiva book emphasis on science of organic agriculture, it's current economic dependence and
MycologistPaul stamets biopesticides concepts also points towards preserving this diversity in nature and their importance for science. I'm pointing towards the economics involved with our food which needs serious reconsideration since this is where the food secruity issues rises.
James- I would question wether what kind of development would you consider is needed? India does consume loads of fertilizers, pesticides and methods of modern farming is enormous. if u point at hydroponics the advancement is present but applications is not efficient especially considering cost, benefit risk ratio. India as a country still produces more agricultural products than its people need. -
Hi Ishkit
Thank you for your reply.
If I understand you correctly, the problem is not the quantity and/or the quality of food grown in India. The problem is spreading the vast quantities over the huge country.
Well, this is really a very hard question to solve.
I am not sure if anyone can assist you to solve this question as it involves much more than instructions/recommendations/advice how to behave. I believe that very powerful organizations/sectors, that have different interests and goals are stirring in this bowl.
As far as I see the purpose of SEARCHGATE is to help people in the technical side of the problem. This point is more political. The economy, in this stage, is reaching the politics and this is a major problem that can be solved by revolution. Please don't get me wrong. I didn't recommend you to fight the government. I meant that in order to put everything in order you need a major changes. Such changes can be done only if it is the government initiative and include a lot of money, changes and education. If you can get it, there is a solution. If not, it is endless story and none, none in the world can solve a problems of 1/3 of the world's population.
I am sorry that this is my approach, but in order to help your people, you must start from 1 instead of starting from 100 in order to solve the problem of the entire of India's feeding difficulties.
sorry.
In friendship
Amir -
Amir. This is not my question,I just wanted to point out the possibilities associated with question. There is no sense about fighting government, if things has to sort out , it has to be through collaboration. no comments of mine was political, atleast not intentionally...
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Hello Ikshit
Exactly. Collaboration. But in order to collaborate you must apply to the Gov. and express your intention. This is not a fight. These are negotiations. A part of the negotiations is education, as somebody, over there, must get your message in order to start moving towards solution. But the solution, as we know, is very very far away.
In friendship
Amir -
Thank you for this information, Ikshit Attarde. If the problem is not with the technology, and there is sufficient production as you point out, then it seems to me the problem must be with the economic system. In other words, there must be sufficient economic incentives to cause the production and distribution to take place. A major historical experiment in government control of this process was the USSR under Stalin. It was attempting in the 1930s, through collective farming, to create enough agricultural products to feed the workers in the nation's heavy industry and military, but allowed the peasants to "own" their own production on less desirable tracts which they worked in their spare time. To the surprise of the bureaucrats, the per-acre production on these "less desirable" lands was five times as great as on the collective farms, causing the USSR to abandon its 5-year plan in 1937 and start over. What I am asking----and again I am no expert in these matters----is whether there may be a disconnect in the alignment of ownership in India which is causing the overall food problem. (Please note: We certainly are developing our own set of disconnects in the U.S. at this time, but that's a different story.) ------------Regards, James
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James: So here's my question: Is the traditional (religious) Indian treatment of cattle perhaps holding back such an "agricultural revolution" in village India? I realize this question may be terribly naive, but I throw it out there for you anyway. :)
Around more than 100 villages around my place, 80% farming has been discontinued; Out of 20% farming activities, 15% relying on tractor cultivation and only 5% are managing with old world concepts of bullock farming. Again they are dependant on rainfed crops and grow cereals and pulses are not given the option. Pulses as protein source required for people and their post harvest wastes required for cattle. The health of bullocks also malnutritioned.Cattle means used for white revolution that is milk production. That is also having trouble in. Because major source of feed is bought and inexistence of grazing land is a problem.Farmers are having less than an acre land under rainless seasons they cannot grow fodder because rainwater harvest has not been done, recharging of near by aquifers are not happening. And the farmers just for an acre do not go in for tube wells. -
How the food becomes a scarcity?
1. Monocropping system under rain fed conditions usually cereals and one or two or no pulses is leading to more of one product that is not fetching more price in the market. Under productions of paddy (Oryza sativa - rice) which is mainly cultivated under reservoir water utilizations thro’ channels farmers grow 2 times per annum. The productions are purchased by the mill owner (private) who block the rice to increase market craving. Most of the time the rice will be losing its shelf-life and heavy with pesticides. On an average much of such blocked old rice will be given thro’ ration. I may think the same applied for other cereals like wheat.
2. On an estimate approximately 35% of the harvests are lost thro pests (that includes insects and rodents) in the granaries that are not maintained with hygiene and post harvest technologies are not applied as per the research and development.
3. Although expected productions happen the quality of the produce especially in cereals and pulses will be dwindling due improper nutrition provided. Unlike earlier times, the practice of use of organic manures are a rarity and marginal and small scale farmers are solely dependant on chemical fertilizers. Several occasions, during rain fed conditions the government fail to supply in right time the right kind of N,P,K fertilizers. Compraratively still several farmers are unaware of the quantity and availability of the fertilizers. Usually urea (N) is provided in surplus compared to the other major nutrients. So much so that, harvests of poor quality is procurable which does not fetch good price in the market and such goods are provided thro’ ration (usually bought by the same marginal and small scale farmers in the villages and poor family of labor class in the urban living).
4. Pulses are also an important daily requirement along with cereals. Pulses productions are higher side but the price fixed is exhorbitantly high for the poor family to buy. Again among the pulses of 9 – 13 types rich and the poor alike prefer 2-3 pulses more commonly hence their prices also go up. Protein based with less trouble to produce pulses like Horse gram is not much grown and much used by the poor family because even after soaking the pulse takes more fuel to cook.
5. Fruits and vegetables are purchased by the middlemen (private) who also sell the same to the equal amount as that of the producer. And sold to the consumers usually almost one to double. Here the middlemen making equal amount of profit as that of the producer within few hours. Fruits and vegetables are regular scarcity among the poor families who are mainly dependent on exceeded shelf-life ration food that includes rice/ragi/wheat and some amount of sugar, cooking oil, and kerosene. -
How the food security is possible?
1. Productions must be divided into smaller segments say av. of 500 villages that usually come under similar geographical conditions and since ages that particular crops are grown. But since green revolution and hybrid seeds generalized productions are happening. Every 300 villages will be strictly observable on day-to-day basis in terms of area under cultivations, observations on water table, nutrient status, work force, livelihood etc.
2. Av. of 500 villages must have a co-operative societies who must play atleast 4 vital roles. a) Providing proper protocols for productions b) safer post harvest technology c) buy-back of the produces after deducting the cost incurred for inputs. d) if possible distribution of the produces (based on State and Country level productions ) in approximate accuracy within the State (atleast) if not within the districts. By doing so healthier produces are distributed right in time with save on transporation and save on money and man power.
3. Almost uniformity in 500 villages can be maintained for the productions of cereals, pulses, fruits, vegetables, fodder and other requirements of agro-industrial categories.
4. Every 500 village must have an array of cottage industries pertaining to the produces which may vary from district/state level.
4. Free education is provided upto the age of 15-16 years (schooling) which must happen to a minimal degree (of batchelor’s degree) can bring mammoth of changes among their families.
5. Apart from pulses (as protein sources), inland fisheries, rabbit rearing, duck farming must be given a major option over hi-tech poultry rearing, sheep/goat rearing that take lot of time, money and labor.
A few of such implementable changes can bring in a wider possibility of upliftment of poor families by means of balanced nutrition, surplus food, surplus job creations and stability to the families to the country itself. -
Sunitha N Seenappa, what do you regard as the major obstacles to the approach you have recommended? Is this a matter of overthrowing the green revolution? Are there in-place laws or vested interests that prevent such changes, or is it purely a matter of education? ----------Regards, James
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Sunitha N Seenappa,
You outline a mulit-faceted approach that involves many good issues and outcomes. What are your thoughts about how to begin? I mean, what changes from the current situation can be made most easily? For instance, which involve low cost, are the least controversial, would have the least opposition, or require the least amount of manpower or organizing? Where do you start? If one approaches your vision methodically, like a business would, which goals can be achieved within 3 years? I'd appreciate your thoughts.
Regards,
Julie -
James Sturges: what do you regard as the major obstacles to the approach you have recommended? Is this a matter of overthrowing the green revolution? Are there in-place laws or vested interests that prevent such changes, or is it purely a matter of education?
NOTHING IS A MAJOR OBSTACLES.
1. A minor obstacles that have been shown as catastrophic disasters by our vey own few of the technocrats and few of the economists and few of the scientists. All are not looking at the practicalities. All their decisions are based on somebody else's data that were prepared for the sake of their own study completion or for the sake of list of publications. A statitistical data at the level of every village on the lines of crop productions, productivity, nutrient management, post harvest technology, problems at hand etc is very obscure.
2. Only on papers the upliftment of the agriculturists and food production is happening. The truth side is this: Topend Govt. officials to the post of messenger and attnders are based on political influence and money making system so much so that the real hardworking, knowledgeable, down-to-earth persons are a rarity and if such persons are seen are made helpless.
3. Voting is happening in the rural side villages who willfully vote based on tips ( in the form of money and materials). In the name of Democracy almost a capitalism rulism is seen.
4. Transparency of money utilization are not seen. Although opportunities and money utilization schemes are implemented most of the time they are only on papers and Govt. does not take any aciton in implementations and at several incidences poor farmers are cheated in getting the money or money will be mishandled by the Govt. officials.
5. The Commisioners and Directors of all faculties just enjoy the benefits provided to them. Their schemes are not approachable. For ex. we still have surplus water, soil, inputs (organic/inorganic) yet our Directors and Commisioners are lured up by the advanced techniques of hydroponics and aeroponics that cannot be implementable to our farmers because 70% of the farmers in our country belong to the small scale and marginal sectors. We do not require hi-tech agriculture. In implementing hi-tech foreign bodies duality is the major cause.
6. Being democratic country, with vividity in state, culture, religion, cast, the ratio of literacy and illiteracy the policies are very generalised.
7. Uncertainities of political parties and ruling, both Govt. and the people of (labors, agriculturists) are always in a awaiting situation to grab opportunities for short cut money making routes.
8. Highly educated class with younger age are required to shape up our political existence.
9. Rich, richer, richest classes are not bothered about the lacunae be it in political, agricultural.
10. Here and there social working teams, NGOs, entrepreneurs are working in small areas and when their voice is raised they are very well made to be nearer to the Govt and... [more] -
Juliet Zavon: What are your thoughts about how to begin? I mean, what changes from the current situation can be made most easily? For instance, which involve low cost, are
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A COUNTRY LIKE INDIA EXCEPT SOME MAJOR IMPLEMENTALBES:
1. At any cost we do not want foreign companies to invest in our agricultural lands for produces and for export orientations.
2.Several MNCs (Indian origin, based), builders, developers and merchants are always faced with income tax rides or problems. Thier part of the money must be invested for entrepreneurial based agriculture. They must not lease out the agricultural lands but must invest on agricultural lands thro the farmers for productivity and must buy-back the produces and that must find way to the consumers, cottage industries, exports, food processing units etc.,
3. We welcome still and in future the green revolution provided that must become a modified version of green revolution with multy croping systems in a given area, integrated inputs of organic and inorganic, crop productions under natural farming methodologies keeping natural weeds etc.
4. Education must be liberalized to the farming community at any period of time and the involvement of the MNCs (Indian origin, based), builders, developers and merchants must enter into such an herculian tasks.
As business, the following goals can be achived within 3 years:
Under the faculty of agriculture: (assuming that a fullfledged team, money, protocols, tools, machineries, transporation are at hand)
1. An estimate of fallow lands can be done during the rainfed crops in every village with a data of reasons for being fallow; actual categorization of farming sectors and landless sectors; their other occupancy, religion, cast etc. In the presence of approachable roads, manpower, electronic devices and media this task can be recorded withing the current year in less than 3months period throughout the country.
2. Cropping systems based on existing and past records must be re-survyed to give anew look into the agricultural and geo-climatic factors this data collection can be done simultaneously as for the work done in above 1.
3. Being an agrarian country how much we reap so much of organic waste is generated and that much of return route must be a possibility thro' proper methodologies of manurial process and with that we can say a rough estimate of 10 - 25% of chemical fertilizers will be sufficient. I would like you to see some of my publications based on these lines. A chain-link productive utilization of organic manure can be done with our existing infrastructure of roads, manpower, mechanisation, transport and the money generated by the Several MNCs (Indian origin, based), builders, developers and merchants. This can be a possibility in a years time.
4. Implementations of cottage industries for food processing, exportation of agriproduces (if surplus availability), product generations from cotton, jute, silk must happen at ev... [more] -
Hi Sunitha, Juliet, James and all others.
I follow your discussion very close and carefully.
I am very impressed of the initiative, energy and activity you invest in the letters exchange and your brilliant ideas. But, the only obstacle is MONEY. The program, in general, is great, but, do you have the means? Land, schools, education, machinery, knowhow, technology Etc cost money. I never met somebody who reached his goals without investment. In order to make money, you must invest money. The big question is where from you get the funds, if you reject on spot the possibility of foreign investors.
Do you have the access to the Gov.(that must be in the picture of every single step of yours, if you want to get their approval and support), to the banks, to all others systems that must participate in such a wide change in your day by day life.
I am certain, from my past, that if you can implement this program it will be great, but there is a wide gap between collecting ideas, putting them on a paper and execute them
As from my experience, if you achieve the goals that you put upfront in 30 years (not in 3) it will be a extraordinary success.
These words are written by a 72 years old man, who spent all his life in business, around the glob, and who took a company with $27 million debit and changed it into $62 million inn the bank, within 3 years. It looks very easy: You may say: "if you can do it why can't I?". The answer is that it is not as easy as you think.
I know what I say. I tell it just in order to encourage you in your thoughts, but on the other hand just to tell you that you start a long way, much longer that you can think of, and a very difficult one, as to deal with the Gov. it is most unpleasant.
Congratulations for the start and I will follow you hoping that I was wrong with my estimation.
In friendship
Amir -
Sunitha N Seenappa, it seems to me that all of your excellent ideas would best begin with the creation of an accurate information database, mapping all of the questions you have posed, as well as can be accomplished, across the map of a region or the whole country. It seems to me this would be a strong basis for either government or private investment to act. . I do not minimize the difficulty of this, but it seems to me to possibly be the logical place in which to start. ----------Regards, James
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Teach a man (woman) to fish is the answer. To that end, we have created two different high density growing methods for produce and herbs. Our market is to build these high density production food factories inside warehouses in the inner cities adjacent to a grocer. Jobs, skills and fresh healthy food within walking distance. www.gardenfreshfarms.com -
India is a continent size country, and we have brought upon ourselves tremendous misery, poverty, malnutrition and all that comes with it.
Most modern thinkers have suggested remedial Urban Agriculture, Zero Food Miles and such strategies. FAO has also endorsed animal husbandry as the most effective poverty alleviation strategy.
It may not be out of place to submit that the ancient Indian wisdom given Vedas gives the most modern strategy to follow. Rig Veda and Atharv Veda says गोभिष्टरेमादितिं दुरेवां यवेन क्षुधं पुरुहूत विश्वाम् | वयं राजभि: प्रथ,मा धनान्यस्माकेन वृजनेना जयेम || Get over destitution caused by lack of skills and knowledge by animal husbandry like cows etc. ( Fish , Goats , Sheep ,Poultry all are considered the best poverty alleviation strategies by the most modern think tanks. )
The Ved mantra goes on to say that animal husbandry enables home grown organic nutrient food to tackle the hunger
This is precisely the modern Zero Food Miles in practice. The Ved mantra goes on further that once hunger malnutrition is taken care of society is able to get rid of disgruntled elements.
It is not possible to formulate one single strategy to suit the entire country as big as India.
Establish and enable in clusters of communities, house hold cows, or fish and or poultry wherever appropriately possible . Imparting animal husbandry skills and knowledge, enabling sustainable organic strategies like vermicomposting, biogas etc are all very important contributions in these efforts.
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The implementation of new techniques to produce more food will eventually reach a peak. The true response to hunger should be population control. Having too many children is a cultural problem and it's not being addressed. All species react to available nourishment in the environment. Why not man? -
Educate to learn.... and learn to "fish"
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Hello everybody
We entered the dangerous field of politics.
The question was how to secure food for the current people-not the future ones.
As it is philosophic question, I suggest that the Gov. will solve the problem of natural increase, which result in lack of education which bring the uncontrolled birth, that raise the problem of lack of food, following diseases and, finally, death.
But the live people need food.
So, please lets concentrate on the main issue and leave aside all by problems. Or, maybe, in contrary, some advisers see the solution in dilution of the population by letting people die. If yes: do you have family, children, parents Etc?
I reject it. What about you?
So, lets think what is the solution to the shortage of food in the 3rd world?
In friendship
Amir -
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hi...the key words are self reliance..and help them to help themselves for the first step...live with sufficiency economic..consume every productions you produce...produce every productions you consume..help each other and working into group in the second step...and establish the social enterprise network to against those capitalist under political's support...force to share the land and forest..water supply and natural resources..rich people and capitalist they know well that they must share with us is better than they lose them all as the same as it used to happen in China..self sufficiency agriculture..no need hi- tech investment..no need to buy chemical fertilizer..no need to buy fungicide..insecticide..animal feeds..ect..and do not forget to learn to ENOUGH...because the most important enemy of sustainable development is greed.
Lesson learn from Thailand...the former plenty of food land ..
Mr. Sirisak -
21% Poor people in India doesnt have access to adequate equal quantity desirable quality food. Solong they dont have means to get purchasing power Govts Social responsibility to feed them. Technologies can produce food cant feed poor.
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Food security as a right what indian govt enacted recently will become right to get enough food regardless of their purchasing power otherwise also democratic govts responsibility. Most unfortunate the so called poor the spent surplus money on liquour or lazy no work when easy means of food is available. Govt should decide what is eligibility to be so called poor, otherwise it will become 2, 3.5 and 1 Re kg rice or vote bank politrics.
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I often wonder of how people in general (WE) validate personal assumption without considering various (sometimes interdisciplinary) aspects of the assumption.
I heard this quote before & probably applies to this conversation. "we cant solve problems with same kind of thinking that helped create it."
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True food security for PM, CM, Politicians, Planners, Executives, Farmers, Traders, is different from their point of view with they explain think of their respective selfishness in their own way. A nation the govt responsibility is to produce food enough to require its socity members at affordable price and same time profitable to the producers. Who cant really afford handicapped by age or place those hungry people should be identified and fulfill its responsiblity by subsidizing or otherwise importing.
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Govt doest nt think about malnutrition in melghat, pulses and oil seeds give a price what u import farmers will produce enoough. Govt / RBI feels its the farmers duty who does charity to feed nation as if they dont have any work. If farmer produce as bper market demand they can be in dictation terms. If they do as per their ability and capability of terms they need to beg supportive price farm govt. The real prices of food grains did not kepy pace with commercial crops and highest increase is with labour wages for attendance they get Rs. 100/- day who will work in farms
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Food for thought, reverse logic: Build indoor agriculture systems in countries that import all their food (OPEC nations come to mind), and the increased supply could have a positive effect on poor nations that can grow food all year. Keep the crops home would in effect transfer supply to those poorer nations, lowering food costs. Not all crops, as those nations still need international trade, but enough to increase supply locally and reduce prices.
Our indoor methods are indifferent to the weather, drought or soil conditions. Growing food where it will be consumed also increases supply by reducing spoilage during transport to market.
Not the only solution, but one of many stepping stones to food security.
GardenFreshFarms.com -
I think creating genetic variability through what ever possible way and using available genetic diversity of the crops is the best option to be used, securing from different insect pests & diseases also. And long term storage of grain production is also be very important for food security. -
No doubt my dear brother, we must adpt IPM (Integrated Pest Management) and BMPs ( Better Management Practices) for the security of different crops...,
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I think we are looking from our point of a person who doesnt have money nor means to earn it or incapable physically . How can we feed him except collective charity through govt. programmes impossible. Production opf food is different, storage is different , look what supreme court told what is thye fate of rice and now wheat excess production leads to losses reduction raises pr5ofits still poor cant get similarly what MP govt distributed 6 months free food graind to BPL to save farmers.
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Production distribution, purchasing power, consuming power all different one needs to remember govts and fartmers duty borders are not well defined even before RBI era what to speak now and govts policy turn around this only
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Dear friend, food security are only possible when release of new high yielding varieties, developed good storage facilities, different Govt. scheme foe poor people. -
The ideology does nt work why every thing should be done by govt which cant define who is poor even after sc strictures. govt should be clear what to do how to do how much it can do for whom.
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Nitin Misal,
I want you to define who are poor people, how are poor people formed, who are responisble for poor people, what makes them to be poor, and at what %age that the poor trend is growing? -
Central govt says 21% poulation is BPL whose earnings are insufficient to get two square meal a day rural Rs. 15 and Urban Rs 30/ day earning. States they keep 40-50 % BPL and try to dilute and black market the facilities given by centre for political resaons. In AP liquor shop tenders for crore are own by these BPLs. If u stick to correct yard stick, BPL, EBC, Creamy layer for Backward classes they real benefit go to real people, which is govts/ tax payers responsibility. We feel prowd in oaying taxes, but when it is distorted misused whole irkings will start.
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All might be knowing the droughts and deaths in India and Amartya sen work for which he won noble prize. Food production is different from food availability in sufficient quantity to all. Even if u dont produce Govt purchases get donation and distribute across country. Within country Traders bear the cost of services like transport and distribuition where distortion 2 -3 times prices are being observed , incase of vegetable 3-5 times. Govt doesnt play any role. Food grains are purchased at MSP compulsory when grains are shortage option when food grains are in excess which will be distributed to poor at subsidized price. This is distrorting market prices and put hardship to farmers. This year shortage of gunny bags is creating problem as shown is not true the place where surplus wheat grains is opposition ruled Madhya pradesh state which it self for saving farmers did the duty of Central Govt last year.
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Therefore food security we are analysing from our visions individual but together we have solve the food problem of poor BPL man & his depoendents
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way is open . find out the rich and natural source of that region engage people for work, give the right earning what everyone counts, save 15-20% as PPF by government or NGO. Make availability to good living like home, consessional food and letus inspire them by the way of meditation. last but not least educate the people for better living and keeping natural harmony. -
We need to go to china or russia, cuba to do this what is possible is govt doing
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Datta: I am pleased by your thoughts and they are 100% implementable approaches. Your ideas in line with sustainability.
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I am reminded of an older Publication, "Farmer Victorious" , some of which is out dated but with some excellent ideas and information. Global hunger seems to be a socio-economic problem. The problem of feeding the hungry-poor is more complex than most realize. ZERI of UN has one approach that has elevated hungry peasants to self-sufficient, middle class, providing food for themselves and others.
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In this regard, food security will continue to be a mirage until delibrate policy is put in place to address it.
The policy will not be put by the poor rather, by the rich who had rigged his/her way to an exalted political office. Who is fooling who? Until the poor is deliberately allowed to participate in policy making by raising their socio-economic status in the society, the discussions on food security will continue to be a talk-shop!.
Teach the poor HOW to fish and STOP giving them the fish so that future generations will not be swallowed by food insecurity.